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- 0:00Get laced up. Let's go!
- 0:02It's time for Banter with the Boys.
- 0:12Yo, yo, yo, welcome back to Banter with the Boys.
- 0:15Gridiron Updates, week 14.
- 0:17Of course, we're here on another Vikings win.
- 0:19We know that. We're here to talk about Al Shair's hit on Trevor Lawrence
- 0:24and everything in between.
- 0:26But before we get started with that,
- 0:28Nah, welcome D'Angelo. How's it going?
- 0:32How's it going, man?
- 0:32Welcome to the pod, man.
- 0:33Appreciate it. Appreciate you guys having me.
- 0:36Yeah, for sure.
- 0:36Excited.
- 0:37Excited. We're happy to have you on. You're a Lions fan.
- 0:40Our first Lions fan on the pod, like through and through.
- 0:43So that's awesome.
- 0:44I'll get after him for the boys, you know.
- 0:47He was looking the same subject up for a period of time before the pod.
- 0:52No, too. We got some info.
- 0:53No, but why don't you just quick give us a little rundown?
- 0:58What got you into football?
- 0:59How long you been, you know, associated with the game?
- 1:01OK, cool. Yeah.
- 1:03My probably first game of football was when I was 10.
- 1:07Got in it pretty early.
- 1:09I went to one of my neighbor's kids footballs game
- 1:14and I was like, I've seen him get hit.
- 1:16I was like, man, I want to do that.
- 1:18That's interesting.
- 1:20You know, I come from a family of five.
- 1:22Got four brothers, one sister.
- 1:25So pretty much roughhousing was the main course of act of love.
- 1:30Yeah, as you would say, all expressing.
- 1:35Physical touch, I guess.
- 1:37Busting on each other.
- 1:39But yeah, ever since, you know, I picked the football up.
- 1:41I never really put it back down until I played all up into college.
- 1:45I played in high school.
- 1:47Was fortunate to play Division two.
- 1:49Nice. Went to Crookston for a little bit.
- 1:52What position?
- 1:53Minnesota Crookston for those that are right.
- 1:55Yup. Then transferred to the state courthouse.
- 1:58I mean, Concordia St. Paul in my last two years.
- 2:01All right. They have a cool stadium, don't they?
- 2:03Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like it, man.
- 2:05Definitely was in the works.
- 2:07You know, got the new turf and everything when I got there.
- 2:11So it was pretty cool.
- 2:13But yeah, I love football.
- 2:14It's been a part of my life.
- 2:16Maybe you want to coach, you know, later on during the line.
- 2:19All right. The opportunity.
- 2:20I was like, you ever thought about coaching?
- 2:23No, I definitely did.
- 2:25There's always coaches needed out there.
- 2:26Yeah, no, we actually in high school, I went to Creendom Hall.
- 2:30We had a little mini-rider camp.
- 2:32Actually coached some NFL kids.
- 2:35I don't know if you guys are too familiar with Seth Green
- 2:39and Kamal Martin.
- 2:40They're actually going for guys.
- 2:43Coached them.
- 2:44Was trying to get them to come to Creed, man.
- 2:46Oh my God.
- 2:47Oh, you're recruiting too.
- 2:48Oh, a little bit.
- 2:50There it is.
- 2:51Definitely a little bit.
- 2:52You know, you see talent at that young of age.
- 2:55You got to try to get in where you fit in.
- 2:57Come join my squad.
- 2:58For sure.
- 3:00But yeah, man, I love it.
- 3:02Still watch it to this day.
- 3:04He was on college.
- 3:04He was on NFL.
- 3:05For sure.
- 3:06Yeah.
- 3:06It's awesome to have you on and you're an Ohio State fan.
- 3:09Yeah, I am.
- 3:09Go by guys, baby.
- 3:11A little upset this past weekend, man.
- 3:15But you know, we're going to take it on the stand.
- 3:16No anger there.
- 3:16No, no.
- 3:17There's nothing under the surface.
- 3:18Yeah, we got to get rid of Ryan Day, man.
- 3:21I think it's...
- 3:21Whoa.
- 3:22No, dude, I'm telling you.
- 3:23He...
- 3:24Four years?
- 3:26Like, this is like...
- 3:27You're setting the Buckeye history up for failure, man.
- 3:31You know, Urban gave you the torch.
- 3:35Yeah, he did.
- 3:36He just fumbled.
- 3:37Four years in a row, though, at that, like, we can't even get one.
- 3:39Calling for day.
- 3:40Unranked.
- 3:42Not as day anymore, I guess.
- 3:43There's a team.
- 3:44All right.
- 3:44Good to know.
- 3:45Michigan with their starting corner.
- 3:47Six and five, yeah.
- 3:48Right.
- 3:48Will Johnson's out.
- 3:50Come on, man.
- 3:51We got the best white-out corner in college football.
- 3:54Yeah.
- 3:55Mbuka, Smith.
- 3:56We got everybody.
- 3:57Come on, Tate.
- 3:58Like, come on, man.
- 3:59We got too many weapons.
- 4:00That game shouldn't even have been, like, close.
- 4:02That's why the spread was at 20.
- 4:03I was surprised.
- 4:04There you go.
- 4:04Yeah, but I mean, I know Michigan's always going to give it a fight, you know, ranked or not.
- 4:09And them dudes are some dogs, so hats off to them.
- 4:12Nice.
- 4:12So...
- 4:13Well, welcome to the pod.
- 4:14Yeah, welcome to the pod.
- 4:15There you go, Gridiron Updates fans.
- 4:16A little college action for you.
- 4:18Oh, yeah, for sure.
- 4:19Jake, welcome back to another episode.
- 4:21Glad to be back again.
- 4:22Yeah.
- 4:23Holding on to that seventh seed hard.
- 4:24Yeah.
- 4:26Your pick was right.
- 4:27It was, absolutely.
- 4:28Wasn't the Ravens.
- 4:29No, it wasn't.
- 4:30That's all right.
- 4:31At least you got it right.
- 4:34We'll get into it.
- 4:35He did get it right, though.
- 4:36He did get it right, but we'll get into that more.
- 4:38Of course, Rob, next to me.
- 4:40Rob just moved into a new house.
- 4:42Yes, I did.
- 4:42So I've been just lifting boxes over and over and taking directions, you know?
- 4:47Yep.
- 4:48I love that.
- 4:48Hey, hey, hey.
- 4:50Taking directions, Rob.
- 4:51It's a smart thing, gentlemen.
- 4:53Take notes.
- 4:54Take notes.
- 4:55Take notes.
- 4:56Rob says take notes and doing everything for us behind the screen, taking notes.
- 5:01Kev over there getting everything done for us.
- 5:03What's up, Kev?
- 5:04What up, Kev?
- 5:05With that, let's head right into our week four...
- 5:07I'm sorry, our week 13 game recaps.
- 5:10Getting ahead of myself.
- 5:22And of course, of course, like always, starting off our game recaps.
- 5:27Where's my...
- 5:29Oh, there it is.
- 5:31My cape flag.
- 5:32My flag's at the cape.
- 5:34Boom!
- 5:36Tad and two Vikings.
- 5:3723-22 win over the cards.
- 5:4010-2.
- 5:41Unbelievable.
- 5:42Two 10-win teams in the NFC North.
- 5:44We'll get to Detroit.
- 5:45Don't worry about it.
- 5:47But yeah, Vikings getting the dub.
- 5:4923-22.
- 5:49But it was close.
- 5:51It was very close.
- 5:52Was it you, though, that called for a major clapping of Arizona?
- 5:57I don't think so.
- 5:57No, I thought...
- 5:58Somebody last week...
- 6:00Not you.
- 6:01We'll have to check the tape.
- 6:02We got to check the tape.
- 6:03There goes my cape.
- 6:04But...
- 6:04Oh, that rhymes.
- 6:06But anyway, close game.
- 6:08Kyler Murray kind of showing us exactly what he's about.
- 6:11I mean, his escape ability is just ridiculous.
- 6:13His ability to extend the play.
- 6:16I mean, I think I watched him walk for like three or four first downs.
- 6:19I'm like, are you kidding me?
- 6:20Yeah.
- 6:21How do you not at some point...
- 6:22I think you brought this up in the video last night.
- 6:24How do you not at some point spy him or something?
- 6:27You know what I mean?
- 6:29They just could not contain him until the second half, apparently.
- 6:32But...
- 6:33Yeah, he's tough.
- 6:33I talked about it last week of how do you game plan against a mobile quarterback?
- 6:37It's one of the hardest things to do, you know?
- 6:39So either you want to rush him to get the ends up around the corner
- 6:43or do you just sit there and try to close that pocket?
- 6:46But that guy's escape ability is amazing.
- 6:49He's got a lead arm talent and Harrison Jr. is looking pretty good.
- 6:54So tough first half.
- 6:56And you know what?
- 6:56I'll give credit to the Cardinals defense.
- 6:58They came out and played that first half.
- 7:01I was surprised.
- 7:02But then, you know, the Vikings end up getting it done.
- 7:04Sam Darnold with another no interception, solid week.
- 7:07No interception tied for the lead for the team rushing on the day.
- 7:11They're 22 yards.
- 7:13But tied for the lead and rushing on the team.
- 7:16Oh my God.
- 7:17Aaron Jones, man, those two fumbles really seemed to affect him early.
- 7:22I'd imagine it was KOC's decision to sit him for a minute.
- 7:26But I didn't think it would be until the second half, you know?
- 7:30And then we saw him come back in
- 7:31and it was good to see him at the end of the game.
- 7:33Get that touchdown.
- 7:34You kind of just see, I mean, you know, he was relieved.
- 7:37He was able to come back with something.
- 7:39Yeah, yeah.
- 7:40That was pretty good.
- 7:41Yeah. Did you end up catching that game at all?
- 7:43Or yeah, I did.
- 7:44Actually, I think I caught it at halftime.
- 7:48It was a good time to tune in.
- 7:49Yeah, I know.
- 7:51I was checking out the stats, man.
- 7:54Yeah, I was actually shocked by Kyle O'Meary, man.
- 7:55He threw for what, 260?
- 7:57Yep.
- 7:5845 attempts.
- 7:59Yeah, that's a lot of attempts.
- 8:00Yeah, that's what I said.
- 8:01I'm like, God, like, that's what, like, he, like, when he throws it.
- 8:04And they still ran the ball 31 times.
- 8:05Yeah.
- 8:06Like, you're throwing it that much, you're feeling comfortable.
- 8:10Like, there's no way you're throwing it 50 times.
- 8:12And what, I think he didn't have many,
- 8:14he probably had like, what, 40 yards rushing, maybe?
- 8:16Not even.
- 8:17Oh, I didn't even see it.
- 8:18Yeah, yeah, but yeah, he just extended the play out.
- 8:2048, yeah.
- 8:21It was the timing of those runs.
- 8:23Just like, just like, David Arnold, he only ran for 22 yards.
- 8:26But like, his runs were crucial at that point.
- 8:28No, for sure.
- 8:29Yeah, I second that too.
- 8:30That's the hard part, like, back to your point of game planning for some of that.
- 8:34You know what I mean?
- 8:34So difficult.
- 8:35What, what are you seeing from Marvin Harrison?
- 8:39I mean, obviously, he seems to be more consistent every game.
- 8:42I mean, becoming more and more of a big down the field threat.
- 8:46He had that nice tug in the back of the end zone.
- 8:48Yeah, that was, that was much like his father.
- 8:51Yeah.
- 8:52I mean, I was like, that's his dad right there.
- 8:53Yeah, beautiful, beautiful body control.
- 8:55Yeah.
- 8:56Keeping the feet in.
- 8:57Unbelievable.
- 8:59I wasn't even mad.
- 9:00I was like, what are you going to do?
- 9:01I think he, so he obviously, Marvin Harrison Jr. still has like a lot of room to grow and develop.
- 9:07For sure he does.
- 9:08Yeah.
- 9:08He didn't come back on a couple balls that he should have come back to help the quarterback out.
- 9:13So, but there's, Trey McBride is there as balled out again.
- 9:20Yeah, 12 catches.
- 9:21Yeah, two weeks in a row.
- 9:25So, they're waiting for that to happen though.
- 9:27He wasn't doing that early, but.
- 9:29Right.
- 9:29There's a lot that Marvin Harrison Jr. can learn from him to improve his game to help out Kyler Murray,
- 9:35especially when the play breaks down, Murray's out of the pocket scrambling.
- 9:40That's like, you're either going deep or you're heading like straight to the sideline or you're running straight like back towards him.
- 9:47Do you think that's because he went to Ohio State and all he ran was deep runs the whole time?
- 9:53Nobody can guard you and go deep man.
- 9:55Brings you back to popcorn days.
- 9:57What do you mean?
- 9:57This is not a streak route.
- 9:59I don't even know what's a curl coach.
- 10:03D'Angelo, just because you're a Lions fan, I got to ask you, what are your thoughts on Sam Darnold to play, you know, as of late?
- 10:09I mean, the whole season really.
- 10:10Really?
- 10:11I feel like, I mean, he came in hot, you know, he's been showing some consistency.
- 10:17I feel like, you know, he's made minimal errors here and there.
- 10:22But.
- 10:24Has he done enough for you to like garner?
- 10:26Like I keep comparing it to a Geno Smith situation, like a three year Geno Smith type of deal.
- 10:32Journeyman at this point.
- 10:33I think.
- 10:35No, I don't know, man.
- 10:38Geno's been balling this year.
- 10:39It's like when you think, you know, someone spiraling down as far as their career, you know, he was going that way.
- 10:48Yeah, no, he definitely was.
- 10:49You know, Russell got out of there.
- 10:51He took the step in and he's been playing man.
- 10:54Hats off to him though, he's definitely been showboating, you know, that clutch win against Sam Fran.
- 10:58You know, he was comfortable once again.
- 11:01You know, once you get comfortable in those situations, you become deadly because like people underestimate you, you know, and it's like that's what they did.
- 11:08I mean, I was watching the game.
- 11:09I'm like, there's no way Geno drives the ball down and win and he walked it in.
- 11:13Yeah, he ran it in.
- 11:14He won the touchdown.
- 11:15So it's like, man, dude, it's like having that dog, that dog mentality.
- 11:19And that's exactly what JJ said at the end or before the game, actually, before kickoff.
- 11:23It was like an hour and a half kickoff.
- 11:24They interviewed JJ or whatever as he's walking in and he said something about like, you know, you're not necessarily underdog in this game, but like there's a lot of people
- 11:32counting against the legs.
- 11:33I don't care. Yeah, essentially like I love that.
- 11:36You know what I mean?
- 11:36And he was not touching the ball that first half and he still ended up with ninety nine.
- 11:41Yeah. Yeah.
- 11:42I mean, that clutch, I don't know.
- 11:44Where do you think?
- 11:45How do you get so wide open on that?
- 11:47It's just just like all of the people are going to cover on a fourth down
- 11:52play. That should be the guy.
- 11:54They well, they were showing a six man.
- 11:56They were showing a zero.
- 11:57They look like they're a blitz.
- 11:58And then if you remember the play, Addison comes in motion.
- 12:02And so then Sam Darner goes, oh, I know they're in zone because nobody followed him.
- 12:07And then he knew that he was running that little hook.
- 12:09And if you see Addison's road, he kicks out the corner on it.
- 12:13I mean, it's designed for him to be wide open.
- 12:16Yeah, it was designed to go to JJ the whole time.
- 12:18Especially when you're playing zone, you know.
- 12:20Yeah.
- 12:21Yeah, you still should have like been closer on that.
- 12:25Yeah.
- 12:26It's tough. Right.
- 12:28But yeah, no, it depends.
- 12:30Yeah, it's tough. It just felt like he was.
- 12:32Everything happened so fast.
- 12:33No, it didn't.
- 12:35I was honestly shocked.
- 12:36They went for it.
- 12:37I was going to try to, you know, kick the field goal.
- 12:39I was I was hoping we'd go for it.
- 12:42Yeah. But I mean, it worked out.
- 12:45Worked out. Worked out.
- 12:46Got the dub twenty three, twenty two.
- 12:48Yeah, buddy.
- 12:49Moving right along.
- 12:50We got Miami traveling to Green Bay.
- 12:54Chilly game.
- 12:55Chilly, chilly game.
- 12:57A lot of people think that played a factor.
- 12:59For sure.
- 13:00You did.
- 13:01The only fella that I saw come onto the field, though, for pregame warm up.
- 13:05So they were showing.
- 13:07I can't remember if this was a real or short, whatever.
- 13:09They're showing Green Bay warming up.
- 13:10Everybody's just in normal game uniform, whatever.
- 13:12Not even long sleeves or nothing, just normal game uniform.
- 13:15And then they show the Miami Dolphins warming up and everybody's in sweatshirts,
- 13:19sweatpants, no pads on, you know, no helmet, nothing, just like trying to stay warm.
- 13:23Then you see Tyreek come out in his sleeveless with shorts on and stuff.
- 13:27Yeah. I mean, he played in Kansas City, you know.
- 13:30So he was probably the only one not really affected by that.
- 13:32But they did look cold.
- 13:34And I can't remember who it was.
- 13:35Somebody defensively for the Dolphins.
- 13:37I can't remember.
- 13:39I think they came out and said, like, yeah, like our players looked looked cold.
- 13:43We were not playing.
- 13:44Yeah. You know, at the top of our.
- 13:46Then you're not thinking about your assignments and everything else.
- 13:48And you're mentally, yeah, exactly.
- 13:50It's like, all right, let's just get out of here.
- 13:54And I mean, that game got out of hand quickly.
- 13:57Fourteen points in the first.
- 13:58I mean, it was what?
- 13:59Twenty four to three and a half.
- 14:01Yeah. And and I think the Dolphins decided
- 14:04they didn't want to come out of the locker room the second half.
- 14:07But I mean, they kind of made they still move the ball.
- 14:10I mean, yeah, hats off to two of them, man.
- 14:12You know, throwing for three, three sixty five to tell you.
- 14:15Yeah. Yeah.
- 14:16He definitely had garbage that second half.
- 14:19Yeah. I mean, he was trying to know for sure.
- 14:22But I definitely thought he wasn't going to have that much in the air.
- 14:25I guess the Packers and I for sure.
- 14:27I thought it would be more of a run game for them.
- 14:29And they just they couldn't get it done early.
- 14:31And then when you go down, 14, nothing in the first quarter.
- 14:34Now you got it. Yeah.
- 14:35Pressing a ball.
- 14:36Yeah. Yeah.
- 14:36You start pressing a little more probably a little earlier than you
- 14:39than you really should.
- 14:40I mean, even 14, nothing in the first quarter.
- 14:42I mean, yeah, it's early.
- 14:43I know you can't quite go away from your from your game script,
- 14:47if you will yet.
- 14:48But I don't know.
- 14:50I'm no coach.
- 14:51I mean, so let's see here.
- 14:53But Josh Jacobs getting his 20 20 almost 20 carries.
- 14:57You got 19, 19, 43 yards.
- 15:00Yeah. A little little off game from him again.
- 15:02Chilly for catches when it gets that cold.
- 15:04You know, he did though.
- 15:06Yeah. The scrimmage yards are good for.
- 15:07They pass the ball really well.
- 15:08They were really did when they just 28 attempts.
- 15:12And Jordan was super efficient with it.
- 15:14And that was the word I was looking for.
- 15:15But yeah, they they just got the job done.
- 15:18No mistakes from him. No picks. No sacks.
- 15:20Yeah. You know, any fumbles this week from J Love?
- 15:23No, no, no, no, no.
- 15:25Falling sideways, huddling the ball down the field this week.
- 15:28He's starting to look a little bit more healthy.
- 15:30Yeah, I think that growing.
- 15:32He's looking a little more.
- 15:33Which should disturb us and you.
- 15:36I mean, the Packers, yeah, they're he says, nah, yes, the Packers are 93.
- 15:41But I mean, that's tough.
- 15:42They got a tough game this week.
- 15:44Yeah, yeah. Like they I I don't know.
- 15:46I'm not saying who I'm picking yet,
- 15:47but the Packers could absolutely come out and win this game.
- 15:50They could. They're definitely.
- 15:51I mean, like, you know, when it's kind of the opposite now,
- 15:56because, you know, with the Lions, you always are looking to upset someone season.
- 15:59Yeah. You know, past history, you know, you guys been kind of.
- 16:03But but, you know, it's like we're on top now.
- 16:07It's like when you're on top, you got to start looking like, hey, man, we got to,
- 16:10you know, we're not finished.
- 16:12You know, we got to go out there, give it 110 percent.
- 16:15You know, Jay Love, man, he's definitely a threat.
- 16:17The Packers didn't pay him all that money for no reason.
- 16:19Oh, you know, so the Lions definitely want that one.
- 16:22See, oh, no, you know, everybody does.
- 16:24They want that for it.
- 16:26But Packers looked good.
- 16:27You know, I was really impressed with them overall.
- 16:29I actually I picked Miami because they're coming off a little heater there.
- 16:32But that weather was a different changer in that.
- 16:34And then I think McKinney and a plane did.
- 16:37And yeah, yeah.
- 16:38So that helped on the back end.
- 16:40Yeah. So yeah, I thought he was a I think that was my pick.
- 16:43If they both don't play, I wanted to the Dolphins.
- 16:46But at the time, it is what it is.
- 16:48Yeah, I ended up falling victim to the the cold weather narrative.
- 16:52Yeah. It's like, oh, the Dolphins are coming in hot.
- 16:55They'll be fine. Yeah.
- 16:56And then no, it's cold weather. We're just not going to.
- 16:59Yeah. And I hate to use that as an excuse.
- 17:01You know, they're professionals.
- 17:02They know they're going to play in some cold weather at some point
- 17:05towards the end of the season.
- 17:06But but that's reality.
- 17:07It did seem to be well, that's that is reality.
- 17:10You're practicing in Miami, of all places in this country to practice.
- 17:13Like and now you got to go play in.
- 17:15They literally call it the frozen tundra.
- 17:17You know what I mean? So what are you going to do about that?
- 17:20But no, for sure. Packers get in the dub 30 to 17.
- 17:23They now go to nine and three still third place in the NFC North, right
- 17:27where they belong, right where they belong.
- 17:31Miami, though, still trying to make a case for that.
- 17:34That wild card that is not looking good.
- 17:36Kind of wide open. You said Baltimore's in seventh right now.
- 17:39You see, yeah. So they're like three games out.
- 17:41Yeah, it's looking rough right now.
- 17:43And all three are up here last week saying Miami could make the playoffs.
- 17:47Yeah, it sure did.
- 17:49If they win that game, they totally can.
- 17:52You don't get grouped in all three because you weren't here last week.
- 17:55Oh, yeah. Yeah.
- 17:56I want to pick Miami anyways. I've seen a stat that.
- 17:59Well, sure. Now, I'm saying, of course, they say like two is
- 18:03oh, and eight when playing in like below like 40 degrees.
- 18:07That's interesting. No doubt.
- 18:09Yeah. We have a stat.
- 18:10Yeah. Where's our stat nerd?
- 18:12The crazy stats.
- 18:14But yeah, with that green bag win in 30 17 moving to game three of our week
- 18:1813, we had Philly traveling to Baltimore.
- 18:22Move that game had everything we thought it would have really.
- 18:25Yeah, sure did.
- 18:26Why don't you just take it away, Jake?
- 18:28What are you what are you disappointed about or are you an Eagles fan now?
- 18:31You made the switch.
- 18:33I took off to Baltimore.
- 18:35This is the moment. He's coming out.
- 18:38This is your opportunity.
- 18:40No, no, put it back on.
- 18:43We're not the bomb little snowman fans.
- 18:47Hey, just attacking him.
- 18:49Thanks for being on the show, Jake.
- 18:50Yeah, you're welcome. I still love you, Jake.
- 18:52I love you too, Rob.
- 18:55So football. Yeah, football.
- 18:58And biggest concern, Justin Tucker's three missed kicks.
- 19:02Oh, yeah.
- 19:03And he had three missed the week before.
- 19:06Two to two.
- 19:07He's trending in the wrong way.
- 19:09So he's trending in the he's trending in the wrong direction on the on the upside.
- 19:15The Ravens finally get their bye week.
- 19:17Long awaited week 14.
- 19:18That's like the worst.
- 19:20Well, maybe week four is the worst.
- 19:22But unless you're playing Lamar and Henry and fantasy football this week.
- 19:25You're still eight and five coming out.
- 19:27Right. So that guy's me.
- 19:30That extra week off hopefully is going to allow Justin Tucker to kind of rethink things,
- 19:35get his mind right.
- 19:36Harbaugh's backing him 100 percent now still and an experienced vet.
- 19:41You need to do that.
- 19:43You saw that even with the Vikings with KOC is like, hey, Aaron Jones, you had a bad first half.
- 19:49We need you now. Get back in there.
- 19:52And then you got it got himself a game winning Tuddy.
- 19:54So so you're you're seasoned really good coaches still have a whole bunch of confidence there.
- 20:00The Ravens defense really showed up this week to they did.
- 20:05Finally. Yeah.
- 20:06Holding Saquon to like 57 yards for the first three quarters.
- 20:10And then that's one of those stats that are stack.
- 20:16I was the first three quarters.
- 20:19And the best defense in three quarters.
- 20:21Then the wheels kind of fell off.
- 20:23I'll say one's going to say one. Yeah.
- 20:24And another 57 and then the touchdown in the fourth.
- 20:28But that's another promising thing because that defense has really struggled against a lot of teams.
- 20:33So good Eagles offense and holding Saquon, the now the league leader in rushing.
- 20:42So, yeah, there's all sucks that we lost.
- 20:46But I think that there's still some good out of it for sure.
- 20:49And again, coming out of the buy at eight and five.
- 20:52The Steelers play the Browns this weekend.
- 20:54So if they do lose, which I mean, I don't.
- 20:57OK, so I do really like Jamis.
- 21:01I last night how they ended that game.
- 21:03And I was so bad.
- 21:05I was so pissed at Jamis.
- 21:07I was like, dude, what are you?
- 21:08And I had no skin in that game.
- 21:10Unbelievable. What a great game.
- 21:12But yeah, we're getting off track.
- 21:13But so but but if the Browns beat the Steelers, you know, you know,
- 21:17yeah, concern concern, though, and the ugly thing is the the Ravens are one of four teams that have three games in 10 days.
- 21:27That's brutal. It is brutal.
- 21:29Yeah, it's like the yeah, the four teams that are playing on Christmas.
- 21:33So you got Texans, Ravens and then the other the other Christmas game like those four teams are three games in 10 days.
- 21:41It's just rough. It is rough.
- 21:43It's nice, though. You got to rebound against the Giants.
- 21:45Yeah. And then you got Pittsburgh, Houston, Cleveland to finish out.
- 21:49Right. Yeah. Ouch.
- 21:50Yeah, it's stuff. I mean, honestly, Cleveland's still not easy.
- 21:54I mean, yeah, yeah.
- 21:56It's two and two here in the playoffs because they're probably not winning the division at this point.
- 22:01Well, who are those?
- 22:03Who are the two wins against?
- 22:05Is one of them? I see if I said the Giants in Cleveland and then they say they lose to Houston and Pittsburgh.
- 22:11OK, well, if they do that, then yeah, they're definitely not winning the division.
- 22:13But they they would still play out.
- 22:15I mean, three and one and they're contending.
- 22:18But yeah, so I don't know.
- 22:20I think they got to win that Pittsburgh game.
- 22:22Yeah, I think that'd be a big one.
- 22:24Yes. But looking at the help, but looking at the would would help looking at the Eagles, though, 10 and two.
- 22:32They seem to do. Yes, Saquon's doing his thing.
- 22:35And that's just pure insanity.
- 22:38But they seem to be doing just enough with the rest of their offense.
- 22:42I guess the only other part of it is the passing part, right?
- 22:45Yeah. But with the passing game, they seem to be doing just enough to get by and get the win, which is.
- 22:51Kind of startling to me because they're not really pressing the issue in the passing game, and it's like,
- 22:56I don't know, I I still don't like Jalen Hurts still has a little bit of postseason magic to me.
- 23:01Still, it's not a quarterback. I necessarily want to see the postseason.
- 23:04Yeah, I think I am a little bit more scared of the Lions,
- 23:08but what the Eagles have done halfway through this season completely changed their trajectory for the season.
- 23:14No, for sure. And that defense is just starting to get scary for me.
- 23:18I've been preaching about that defense for the last three years when they start building it all of Georgia players.
- 23:22But it's just like they all know each other. Eventually, it's just it's going to work out.
- 23:26I don't know. I've been sold on that for a minute, but I don't know.
- 23:30Are the Eagles concerning to you? Like if the Vikes had to play the Eagle like, oh, for sure.
- 23:33They're really their defense.
- 23:35I think their defense is better than their offense, actually, at this point.
- 23:38Oh, yeah, I would agree.
- 23:39I mean, Barkley sets it up.
- 23:42I still don't trust Jalen Hurts if I'm down by 17 points to come back,
- 23:47even though they have the skill set for anybody.
- 23:50It is, but he's still not that that.
- 23:53You're taking Sam Darny.
- 23:54You know, he's he's really good at the play action.
- 23:58So you're taking Sam Darny down 17 over Jalen Hurts?
- 24:04I think they're both the same.
- 24:06Oh, OK. Interesting.
- 24:08I give Jalen the coin flip for me.
- 24:11OK, interesting. Very enough.
- 24:12I think Sam's I mean, got a better overall NFL like touch arm.
- 24:18I think I think Jalen throws a little more fastballs.
- 24:21I second that. You know, he doesn't have a lot of touch, you know, compared to Sam.
- 24:26But also Jalen has the legs that kind of compensates the little bit of difference
- 24:32of the passing ability. So that's why I kind of think they're a wash.
- 24:35And I'm not trying to ruin the Eagle season here or Barclays life, but
- 24:41just saying I'll knock on wood for you Eagles fan.
- 24:44Oh, as a Vikings fan, if they lose, I know that's what I do.
- 24:48I know if it's more for Saquon, because I'd feel bad.
- 24:51If Saquon goes down with an injury before the playoffs start.
- 24:56Are the Eagles are they just as scary?
- 24:59No, no, yeah, not at all. Not at all.
- 25:02Not not even the same team.
- 25:04We're talking about a guy that's hurtling backwards.
- 25:08Yeah, defense will keep him in the game.
- 25:12So I mean, I don't think they'd be as dominant.
- 25:14Yeah, like you said, the defense would keep them in some games
- 25:17and they still have some receivers and skill.
- 25:21But I think the Eagles are the best when they run the ball and play action.
- 25:25Yeah, for sure. So it would be a big loss.
- 25:27It would not happen. That has not happened.
- 25:30You did not hear it here first.
- 25:31Saquon Barkley is playing this weekend as far as we know.
- 25:34But the Eagles getting the job 24 19 Eagles
- 25:38starting to run away with that division a little bit at 10 and to Washington
- 25:42right behind him at eight and five Baltimore just trying to get to that
- 25:45wild card at this point.
- 25:46But hey, Pittsburgh loses this week. Game on for the division.
- 25:49Yeah, game on for the division.
- 25:51Moving on to game four of our week 13 recaps
- 25:55that the other teams in that division Pittsburgh traveling to Cincinnati.
- 26:01A game that I thought that the Bengals actually had a chance in
- 26:03and truly it felt they never honestly had a chance.
- 26:07Now, it's like a track me like the whole game.
- 26:08I mean, yeah, they were within like two scores almost the whole time.
- 26:12But like that cushion is just not good enough for me to like,
- 26:15you know, feel confident about them.
- 26:17And at this point, I think that's just the end of the Bengals season.
- 26:21Yes, they did. All right.
- 26:22I mean, what would you say six games left? Five, five games.
- 26:25I mean, even if they win out, it's probably not going to be enough.
- 26:29No, they're out. I mean, I think they're what?
- 26:31They're four games out of the wild card right now.
- 26:33Yeah. So they got like, what, a 2% chance?
- 26:36Yeah. Just insanely low.
- 26:37Baltimore can't lose this.
- 26:38So before we even touch on Pittsburgh, we know they're winning the division.
- 26:42We've already talked about them a little bit here today.
- 26:44But I mean, Cincinnati, what are what are they looking at?
- 26:48I mean, you see them a lot, Jake.
- 26:49What are what are they looking at, you know, heading in the next season?
- 26:52Well, they got a fix there.
- 26:54I mean, they have to shore up their defense.
- 26:56100% always the biggest thing.
- 26:58Yeah, that's they're not getting enough pressure on the quarterbacks right now.
- 27:02So you need another edge rusher with Hendricks.
- 27:05Hopefully he's going to stay.
- 27:07You don't know at this point.
- 27:09He's he do for money for a bag?
- 27:11I think he's a decent bag for.
- 27:14Yeah. Yeah.
- 27:15He's one of the better.
- 27:17He's probably going to be asking for it.
- 27:18I just love the league in sacks or he's currently leading the league in sacks
- 27:22right now. I think you are correct.
- 27:24So he's do money or he's earned more money.
- 27:30But they need somebody on the other side and there's
- 27:34there. They need to like work on the secondary to just like sure that up.
- 27:40It's it's tough.
- 27:42The only thing I'll say about their secondary this game is
- 27:45all Cam Taylor Britt had the cleanest hit of the week on Frickin.
- 27:50Who was it? Oh, yeah, I saw that was a good hit on Calvin Austin.
- 27:52The nerd or whatever. Really? I don't think I caught that hit.
- 27:55He laid him out clean. Oh, OK.
- 27:58Before we leave, you got to see that man.
- 27:59That was cool.
- 28:00I mean, just full on clean by the book.
- 28:03Yes. Lays his shoulder into him.
- 28:04Oh, yeah. Anyway, that's about all they can write.
- 28:08Home about that game.
- 28:09But yeah, yeah, I'm not seeing I'm seeing if I could find Trey
- 28:13Hendricks is.
- 28:15Yeah, but you know what?
- 28:16Russell Wilson's playing some good football.
- 28:18Yeah, he I mean, he threw the ball 38 times to 10
- 28:23different targets.
- 28:24That's what I was going to piggyback off that.
- 28:27That is impressive.
- 28:28And also is really interesting in the stat line is eight of the 10 receivers
- 28:33had catches over 20 yards.
- 28:36So like plus 20 yard plays.
- 28:38So they're throwing the ball downfield.
- 28:40That's Russell Wilson getting more comfortable, which is kind of a scary thing.
- 28:43It is. We were talking about why are you even starting Russell Wilson
- 28:47when you went out and got Justin Fields?
- 28:49Yeah. You know, Justin Fields is getting hot towards the end of last season.
- 28:51So it's just like, you know, you'd think and we saw Russell Wilson
- 28:55struggle heavily in Denver last year.
- 28:57Struggle to make where this is starting to look like some seehawk like
- 29:02we know he still has arm strength.
- 29:04We saw every week at least one miss at super deep.
- 29:07You're just like, that's ridiculous.
- 29:08Yeah. You know, but we're starting.
- 29:11It's starting to get scary for the AFC, to be honest with you,
- 29:13because it's like if he becomes a sliver of what he was in Seattle, I mean,
- 29:16you know, minus the famous pick, right in the Super Bowl.
- 29:19But other than that, like that was Pete Carroll.
- 29:22Still, yes. The dude still a Super Bowl winning quarterback.
- 29:25You know, MVP, even I think was he Super Bowl MVP when they won.
- 29:28I can't remember.
- 29:29I feel like that could have been a defensive MVP that year, too.
- 29:31But it was a was that can Chandler?
- 29:35Yeah, that's what I mean.
- 29:36I think it was defense.
- 29:38But either way, yeah, they've totally offensively.
- 29:43The Steelers have totally flipped the script as well.
- 29:45Kind of like what we were just talking about with the Eagles.
- 29:47The Steelers have completely changed and like their offense is starting to get
- 29:50more scary. Naji Harris is starting to get more consistent,
- 29:53which they needed that big. You don't think so?
- 29:55Man, dude, he's I don't know, man.
- 29:58I feel like he he has not been showcasing the talent that he has.
- 30:03There's I feel like he's less agile.
- 30:07That's great.
- 30:08He he's not as elusive as he used to be.
- 30:12Explosive is what I'm thinking. Yeah, that too.
- 30:15I mean, like when's the last time he broke out for like a 25 yarder?
- 30:18I don't know if he really had a 20 yarder this week.
- 30:20I mean, yeah, but that's like exactly.
- 30:23Yeah, he's definitely is slotted more now into that powerback.
- 30:27Yeah, that's right. Yeah.
- 30:28Yeah, where he was like a more of a mix kind of he wasn't
- 30:31he wasn't fully like an elusive back coming out of Bama.
- 30:34Right. As Bama, I mean, but he was still like, yeah, yeah.
- 30:37He had to speed. The speed was there.
- 30:39I feel like I've been I've been liking Warren more.
- 30:42Yeah, he's been scared.
- 30:44Yeah, he gives you that.
- 30:45It's a good one to punch.
- 30:46Yeah, it's not your enlightening.
- 30:47Yeah. Yeah.
- 30:48You know, yeah.
- 30:49Let Nodger bully him a little bit and then you give it to Warren
- 30:51out on the outside zone or something.
- 30:53Yeah. Like watch out.
- 30:55Yeah, he's super scary.
- 30:56And you can turn it on.
- 30:57But and then of course,
- 31:00if we're talking about the Steelers, we got mentioned George Pickens.
- 31:02Oh, my gosh. Oh, yeah.
- 31:03He's a stud. What a goofball.
- 31:05Yeah, he is.
- 31:07You love him and you hate him.
- 31:08Same play. Yeah.
- 31:10Yeah. Unbelievable.
- 31:12Don't don't get me wrong.
- 31:12We'll we'll have a little
- 31:15thought process about him.
- 31:16A little thought.
- 31:17Yeah. I'll nugget him in a minute.
- 31:19Yeah. A little nugget.
- 31:21But moving right along to our final game of the week, 13 game recaps.
- 31:26We had the L.A. chargers traveling to Atlanta.
- 31:30A lot of us actually told took the chargers, but, you know, a lot of
- 31:35a lot of the experts were feeling Atlanta on this.
- 31:39And her cousins came out and gave everybody four picks.
- 31:43And did the did the other bad picks.
- 31:46Yeah, he did the other.
- 31:48He did the other.
- 31:49Um, I remember those days.
- 31:52I don't know.
- 31:53Do you miss him?
- 31:54No, I try to block him out.
- 31:56I got to go back to my therapist.
- 31:58I mean, I mean, this has just got to be a bad game for Kirk.
- 32:02I'll be the savior for him.
- 32:04Like, you know, who do they got next week?
- 32:06I you know, they have an opportunity to bounce back.
- 32:08Oh, yeah.
- 32:10They don't have an opportunity to bounce back.
- 32:12Never mind.
- 32:14In two weeks, they have an opportunity.
- 32:15He has an opportunity to bounce back.
- 32:17It's not going to happen in the bank.
- 32:19But there's been rumblings where people are like, should they think about
- 32:22starting pennix at some point?
- 32:24Like and we talked about a little bit on the video last night.
- 32:26And it's just like, well, you're right there.
- 32:29You know, they're in first place and they're in the playoffs.
- 32:32So why don't go to your rookie quarterback?
- 32:35Why would you make that move?
- 32:36It's way too late.
- 32:37Mostly just fans, you know, like Falcons fans are like, oh, I don't know.
- 32:41But obviously, B John's a force back there to
- 32:46had himself a solid day, of course.
- 32:48But Chargers somehow sneak in, sneak in by.
- 32:52Definitely snuck that one. Interceptions help.
- 32:54Well, they well, that's that's the part I wanted to touch on.
- 32:58That's rather disappointing is with four picks, you mustered 17 points.
- 33:03Yeah. Yeah. I think that's a concern.
- 33:05Yeah, I'm very concerned about the Chargers.
- 33:08Once Dobbins has gone out, that whole offense is put on the brakes.
- 33:12So what do you think they're going to be looking for this off season?
- 33:14You know, some sort of agile playmaking running back from Boise State.
- 33:18Oh, OK. I'm on board with that.
- 33:21Yeah. He slips with the Vikings. I'm in, but.
- 33:25Yeah, right. Right.
- 33:27But yeah, no, seriously.
- 33:28And we touched on it last week when Dobbins is missing,
- 33:31the offense just looks completely different.
- 33:34It's not like Gus Edwards had that bad of a day, but it's just it's not the same.
- 33:37He's not the same style of running.
- 33:40He doesn't give you that same electricity.
- 33:42He's not going to hit the home run. No, no. So
- 33:46McConkey, though.
- 33:47Man, make it a name for yourself.
- 33:49Yeah, I like McConkey, you know, last few weeks.
- 33:52He's done.
- 33:53He kind of reminds me of a little bit of Cooper.
- 33:55Little bit of Cooper.
- 33:56Play style.
- 33:57Cooper Cup. I mean, similarity or like a young feeling.
- 34:00Young deal. OK. Fair enough.
- 34:02Young dealing. How did you feel about Adam Thielen as a Lions fan?
- 34:06Oh, just did enough to bug you.
- 34:08Yeah, no, he did.
- 34:09Man. Oh, my God.
- 34:11Did you see that catch?
- 34:12Yeah. That's what was at a fourth downplay down.
- 34:16Yeah. Like so it was like he was doing it out
- 34:20and it was inside.
- 34:21So he had a turn in any one hand and the deal and didn't touch the ground or anything.
- 34:28It was pretty. I thought it was over with for the bucks after that.
- 34:30I'm like, oh, my. All right. They deserve it.
- 34:32But, you know, a young quarterback guy.
- 34:35Price. No, yeah, no, he he definitely he definitely played a better game.
- 34:39For sure. He definitely did.
- 34:40Last four games he's been he's been playing. Yeah.
- 34:43But at least there's some like hope.
- 34:46All right. We see the potential. Right.
- 34:49Well, Chargers getting the dub 1713, keeping their hope alive
- 34:53for a playoff run, looking like they could probably get into a wild card.
- 34:57They do have a big division game this week.
- 34:59Yeah. Probably not looking good for the Chargers this week with that offense.
- 35:03They show up now against not a city like that.
- 35:05It's just not going to happen.
- 35:07So they really need Dobbins back.
- 35:09But with that, Kev, let's head right into our tent talk.
- 35:14That talk.
- 35:17Nine one one. What's your emergency?
- 35:19And to start off our tent talk, probably horns up horns up
- 35:31to start off our tent talk, probably the the biggest one.
- 35:35CMC to the IR for at least six weeks, if not potentially season
- 35:40ending completely with a PCL injury.
- 35:43And then they're like, oh, well, we got Mason.
- 35:45No, he's also the IR with an ankle injury, so that's a minimum four weeks.
- 35:50Taysom Hill for the Saints, torn ACL, done for the season.
- 35:54Sucks to see him go down like that.
- 35:57Just one of those utility guys put him anywhere.
- 35:59Trevor Lawrence.
- 36:00Don't worry, we'll touch on Trevor Lawrence in a little bit.
- 36:03But he goes down with a concussion.
- 36:05I wonder why Hollywood Brown
- 36:08could actually rejoin the Chiefs before the end of the regular season.
- 36:11That'd be huge for them right before they head into the playoffs.
- 36:17A little bit of news here.
- 36:18Matt Eberfluss gone. He gone. He's fired.
- 36:21But we're all waiting for that.
- 36:24Don't worry, we'll circle back on that in a minute.
- 36:28Dable currently not concerned about his job status kind of being hot.
- 36:33We've talked about Mike McCarthy as well, maybe being a little hot,
- 36:35and nobody seems concerned right now.
- 36:37So well, they've won the last week or two, right?
- 36:41Yeah, Dallas, I think that what?
- 36:44We'll get we'll all get to Dallas again, too,
- 36:45because I got some to say about Michael Parsons.
- 36:49Bill's clinched their division.
- 36:51No surprise really there.
- 36:52Graduation circle the wagons.
- 36:54Yeah, whatever.
- 36:56Bill's Mafia. Let's roll.
- 36:57But it's nothing they're not used to.
- 36:58They win divisions.
- 37:00They just can't get over that hump like the Vikings. Unbelievable.
- 37:04Andrew Luck makes return to football with Stanford as their GM.
- 37:09Oh, he's not playing quarterback.
- 37:10He's not playing quarterback.
- 37:13People are like, why do you need a GM for college football team?
- 37:16Well, yeah, you got 75 some recruits.
- 37:18You know, there's a lot.
- 37:19There's a lot of organization.
- 37:20He's kind of like I looked it up.
- 37:22They're kind of like the right hand man to the head coach of a
- 37:25of a college football team, which I didn't even know a GM for college
- 37:28football existed until this happened.
- 37:30I think it's like a new 2021 is when they implemented that.
- 37:33So, yeah, super new.
- 37:35Oh, he's just a recruiter.
- 37:37I mean, that's all he is.
- 37:39Like, you know, he did an interview with Dan Patrick today, and I listened to that.
- 37:43And kind of that's really what it sounds like is his responsibilities
- 37:47to make sure that the head coach has like the right tools to do their job
- 37:51but also is going out there and recruiting players to come in
- 37:55just with all the NIL stuff lying around and in the transfer portal.
- 37:59Yeah, it's just ridiculous.
- 38:01Yeah, interesting.
- 38:02I mean, Andrew Luck shows in your living room here like, oh, yeah, sure.
- 38:05I'm tell him no.
- 38:06Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's see.
- 38:11James Connor signs a two year deal with the Cardinals.
- 38:13Nineteen mil. He's earned every penny of that.
- 38:15For sure. He's been huge for him this year.
- 38:17Yes, he has. Danny Dimes.
- 38:19Do we I don't even know if we still call him Dimes, but
- 38:23former franchise quarterback for the New York Giants
- 38:25signs with the Vikings for three hundred and seventy five thousand dollars.
- 38:29That's it. League minimum.
- 38:30That's it.
- 38:32I mean, I'll take it.
- 38:34But he's still getting paid. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
- 38:37It's all good.
- 38:39That bag traveled with him.
- 38:40Saquon Barkley on track to beat the rushing record set by Dickerson.
- 38:44I it'd be cool to see it.
- 38:46You know, we really thought we would see it with Adrian Peterson, to be honest.
- 38:49Yeah. And then they took him out of the game, protecting for playoffs that year.
- 38:52And, you know, he didn't know where he was at the famous interview.
- 38:55You know, oh, I didn't know.
- 38:56You know what I mean? But yeah. Oh, God, I just wish he would have got it.
- 38:59Can't remember how short he was. Eight yards or something.
- 39:01I know. Yeah, it was it was really close.
- 39:04And they took him out the game in the fourth quarter.
- 39:05You know, I mean, don't get me started.
- 39:06Anyway, I want to circle back on real quick on the head coaching vacancy for Chicago.
- 39:13Who's who's kind of the the front runners, you think, for that,
- 39:16if you just had to throw a name out there, you know,
- 39:20before I start naming off people, able variable.
- 39:22That one's came up.
- 39:24Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson, this came up, for sure.
- 39:27Multiple times.
- 39:29I heard Cliff Kingsbury all of a sudden with Caleb Williams.
- 39:32It wouldn't be the worst combination in my opinion.
- 39:35I mean, yeah. Well.
- 39:38Oh, the B.C. for the Dennis Allen Saints,
- 39:42his saints, the O.C.
- 39:44He offered his name around to the bears had an opportunity to give click
- 39:48to get Cliff Kingsbury this past summer as their O.C.
- 39:52And they totally just like let him walk out the door.
- 39:55Yeah. So like you don't think that's a realistic possibility.
- 39:59Kingsbury would just like give him a big old middle finger.
- 40:01And like you had your change.
- 40:03You feel really good about Caleb Williams.
- 40:06But how do you leave Jaden Daniels? Right.
- 40:09Well, that's a good point.
- 40:10You know, exactly.
- 40:11I mean, he's kind of done it.
- 40:13Actually, I've heard of the word on the street is the current
- 40:17interim who was that there.
- 40:20Oh, see. Yeah.
- 40:21What's Thompson?
- 40:22Matt Thompson. Thomas.
- 40:24What's his name?
- 40:25Oh, that's that he might be the head coach.
- 40:28That mean he has the inside track.
- 40:30Why not? And I guess I mean, the Ryan Poles, you know, the GM there.
- 40:35He wanted to fire Iver Fluse last year, but ownership said no.
- 40:40That came out today.
- 40:42Interesting because they kept the GM on to.
- 40:44Mm hmm. Oh, interesting.
- 40:46As they should.
- 40:47I mean, I don't think he's really done anything negative.
- 40:51He's done a really good job.
- 40:52I think so, too. Into the team.
- 40:54I mean, I think the Bears could still be really competitive
- 40:57in the NFC North next year.
- 40:58They can. Yeah, I think.
- 41:00I don't even want to say it.
- 41:02I think the Vikes might be fourth next year, but this is the season, man.
- 41:06Flip it anyway. Yeah, I think it's.
- 41:12Flip it and delete it.
- 41:14But with that, OK, one more name is Bill Belichick, make a return to coaching
- 41:18to Chicago and historic place, a place to go for somebody like Bill Belichick.
- 41:22I just thought of it right now.
- 41:23Or is like that is true.
- 41:24You think? Yeah, no, that's that's not.
- 41:27No, because not now.
- 41:28No, he's going to want he's going to want the wins record.
- 41:31I don't think he's going to get it in Chicago with as competitive as the.
- 41:36But he has to start somewhere.
- 41:38He's not going to receive a 14 and two.
- 41:41Yeah, no, there's no way. Right.
- 41:42But if he gets a if he gets a head coaching position in like a trashy south.
- 41:50But I think that's that's that's an easy like five to six extra wins
- 41:54you can bring it bring on to your team.
- 41:56I feel like the Bears are two years away from competing with the Lions
- 41:59for the division.
- 42:01Like, I know that's crazy, but like, I mean, all right.
- 42:06I know what I'm doing talking about all these other.
- 42:07And I know you're confusing me as a Vikings fan.
- 42:10I know I'm making you confused.
- 42:12I know. No, hey, man, the Bears have been doing the right things
- 42:15that they've been on the bottom for a minute.
- 42:17And I know that sucks.
- 42:18We don't got to tell you.
- 42:20But not anymore.
- 42:23No, but seriously, I think definitely offensive coach.
- 42:26I think it's got to be an offensive coach.
- 42:27I agree. Yeah.
- 42:28100 percent. So or a culture builder.
- 42:32So who out of the coaches mentioned then bringing who is the O.C.
- 42:36Rable. Well, you do variable as the head coach.
- 42:40I have no defense a guy which they just got done with.
- 42:43Right. But Vrabel's always been been on point with like knowing,
- 42:49hey, we need to call a timeout right now.
- 42:53So she's better.
- 42:55All comes full circle.
- 42:57Unbelievable.
- 42:59With that, Kev, let's head right into our bonehead move of the week.
- 43:11And for bonehead move of the week, don't worry, we got some
- 43:16on our dogs out there.
- 43:18We got some honorable mentions every time I thought I had found a bonehead
- 43:21move of the week, something new would happen.
- 43:23So crazy week. Honorable mention, Michael Parsons.
- 43:28Man, on Thanksgiving, Dallas beat the two wind giants.
- 43:31So he came out and said, we're coming. We're coming.
- 43:34Come on, man.
- 43:35Come on, man. That's not I like my Michael Parsons.
- 43:38But come on. And that defenses look different since he's been back. But yeah.
- 43:42Pump pump the brakes.
- 43:43Take about 30 percent off there.
- 43:45Like, come on, you and Cooper Rush off
- 43:49even if it's not calling a timeout.
- 43:50I mean, that's just part of the reason.
- 43:52And actually, the honorable mention bonehead part is the fact that he backed it up
- 43:57so aggressively after and he was like, oh, I'm just preparing for the 49ers
- 44:01next week, you know, and it just I don't know.
- 44:03I just it was just time to go. He was there.
- 44:05There was too many mistakes, two games in a row, weird time management.
- 44:09And yeah, that whole offense didn't seem like it was flowing.
- 44:13You know, they had an easy schedule to start the year off because they went four and two.
- 44:17Yeah. Yeah. And so everyone's like, oh, my gosh, there is it.
- 44:20And then after that, they've fallen off a cliff.
- 44:21Yeah. I think the other honorable mention with the Eberfluss firing
- 44:25and I found found this out was so the day after Eberfluss had his press conference
- 44:30with the media in the morning and talking about, oh, I'm feeling really good
- 44:34and I'm not worried about my job. Two hours later, he gets fired.
- 44:38Like, yeah, Bears organization, if you knew this was happening,
- 44:41why did you even let him like, yeah, have a press conference? Yeah.
- 44:46You have a zero seven thirty meeting with ownership.
- 44:49Yeah. Yeah.
- 44:50What do you think that's about?
- 44:52And after that, you have media if you want to.
- 44:54Last honorable mention of the week before we get into the real meat and potatoes.
- 45:00George Pickens scores touchdown, punts the ball into the crowd.
- 45:04That was actually kind of funny.
- 45:05Didn't get flagged for it, I don't think.
- 45:07And then later, I think it was just the first down
- 45:11and then gets up, continues running into the end zone, throws the ball
- 45:14and he's finger gunning everybody in the crowd like, all right.
- 45:16Well, you know, at some point, at some point
- 45:20you're going to get a flag, it's on sports.
- 45:21But like that, he's just kind of like, what what do you mean?
- 45:25But then he goes out and makes insane catches.
- 45:27I mean, the dude is I'm not trying to put a label on him.
- 45:32Let's see what he is in Pittsburgh.
- 45:35And he's kind of turning into the new Antonio Brown a little bit,
- 45:38just like being out there with it, though, you know what I mean?
- 45:41Not not the crazed part, not running around in traffic or not yet.
- 45:45Yeah. But like, but like as far as like some of his antics and stuff,
- 45:50you know, he's not taking his pants off on the field.
- 45:52Yeah. But, you know, he's just electric.
- 45:54He's he's fun to watch.
- 45:56He's good. She's selling tickets.
- 45:58You know what I mean? I agree.
- 46:00So anyway, honorable mention now the real bonehead.
- 46:04Drumroll. Yeah.
- 46:06Al Shire, the hit on the hit on Trevor Lawrence now.
- 46:11You know, if you go frame by frame,
- 46:14which is not how we view life.
- 46:16But if you go frame by frame, the slide was starting
- 46:20before he went to start his tackle. Technically, technically. Yeah.
- 46:26I get in the heat of the moment. I get a bang bang play.
- 46:29My thing that sells it for me that he was,
- 46:34lack of better terms, head hunting, you know,
- 46:35maybe not for sure going for his face or whatever. Yeah.
- 46:38But hitting him. You know, I mean, he was going for the big hit.
- 46:42The thing that got me is when you slow it down, right?
- 46:46And he's going for the tackle.
- 46:47He's leading with that forearm. It's like a line.
- 46:49And like when you go to like tackle somebody, unless it's like that last ditch.
- 46:53I can't remember what it's called.
- 46:54But like when you, you know, somebody's running down, it's that last ditch.
- 46:57Are you just trying to, you know, get their heel a little bit?
- 47:00You know what I mean? Yeah.
- 47:03If you know, even when you're doing that, you know,
- 47:05you're not necessarily leading with that forearm, right?
- 47:08So even if you're standing up, you're telling me he's going to lead
- 47:10with that forearm into his legs like that.
- 47:13I don't know. I think he's coming in, you know?
- 47:15So that right that kind of sold it to me that, yeah, he was going for the big hit.
- 47:21And I only and I only look at it that way because a week three
- 47:24against the Chicago Bears, he smacked Caleb Williams, who was still in bounds.
- 47:29He was he was clearly going out of bounds.
- 47:31Yeah. And I think he's still got
- 47:33I don't know if he got flagged.
- 47:35No, I don't know. I can't remember that. Yeah.
- 47:37Yeah. And what do you flag him for?
- 47:39You know, hitting in bounds? Yeah.
- 47:42You have to flag him for hitting the quarterback at that point,
- 47:44because that's the only thing you could see.
- 47:46But that's happened.
- 47:47But so that which he got fined $11,000 for today,
- 47:51it came out that he was suspended three games or maybe came out
- 47:53and say whatever for this hit on Trevor Lawrence.
- 47:56But for me, do you think the suspension is fair is my question.
- 48:00For me, I think three games is fair.
- 48:02There's a lot of people are like the whole season.
- 48:04Then there's the other half of people are like, not at all.
- 48:07It's football. You know, so what do you
- 48:09what do you guys feel on that?
- 48:11I think three is kind of kind of harsh.
- 48:14And harsh for three. OK.
- 48:16I was would you go with one?
- 48:17I was expecting two.
- 48:19And then they then they would just they would petition it down to one.
- 48:23This is kind of what I was expecting was going to happen. OK.
- 48:27So I think that they're still going to
- 48:30they're still going to like battle it.
- 48:32If anything, it's only going to go down to two.
- 48:34I don't feel it.
- 48:35Yeah, they'll feel it.
- 48:36But I don't see them appealing three down to one.
- 48:39But no, I think three was harsh.
- 48:42Three is a little harsh. I thought so. OK.
- 48:44Fair enough. And he did come out and apologize next day on social. Right.
- 48:47Well, yeah, like everybody does.
- 48:49But he did. You know, he wasn't trying to maliciously hurt Trevor Lawrence.
- 48:52I would like to think unless you're what's his name?
- 48:55Perfect. Perfect.
- 48:56I would like to think as yeah, Vontez. Yeah.
- 48:58I would like to think that you're not attempting to hurt people
- 49:01when you go out there and play the game.
- 49:02You're just trying to play the game.
- 49:03And again, he did the moment right. Yeah.
- 49:05And he's a great player.
- 49:06He's a great linebacker.
- 49:07You're trying to hit him hard.
- 49:09But he's a hard hitter. He's searching for that.
- 49:10That's yeah, that's his aim.
- 49:12And I'm not trying to hate on that.
- 49:13I love that part of it.
- 49:14But yeah, you know, you still went high on a sliding quarterback.
- 49:18And that's just the rule, man.
- 49:19But how do you guys feel about the three game?
- 49:21Oh, definitely a little more than I expected.
- 49:25I've definitely seen worse hits on quarterbacks.
- 49:28Now he was giving himself up, but I feel like it wasn't
- 49:33as fast as it should have been as far as a slide,
- 49:37because as you can see, OK, like when you slow it down.
- 49:41But then again, you know, he could have tried to roll the other way.
- 49:45But I feel like he was just yeah, like you protect himself at all, really.
- 49:49But like you're traveling.
- 49:50Brady came out. Yeah, actually.
- 49:53I mean, yeah, that too.
- 49:54But I mean, you're traveling at a crazy rate.
- 49:56You know, you're in the game.
- 49:58When the speed of NFL. Yeah.
- 50:00So it's like you're running.
- 50:01I mean, it's not like he got up and tried to showboat about it.
- 50:05Like he was like, wait, what?
- 50:07But then, you know, then he got.
- 50:09And then, you know, and at that point, game on.
- 50:11Yeah. No, first, I don't blame him for getting up and getting.
- 50:14Yeah, no, right.
- 50:15Like, for sure. He shot it, too.
- 50:16Yeah. Yeah.
- 50:18But also got ejected, not suspended, but he got it from the game.
- 50:22But then again, it's like,
- 50:25I don't know, man.
- 50:26So it's so tricky.
- 50:27You know, it hits nowadays targeting everything.
- 50:30It's it's a super fine line.
- 50:32Yeah, it is. It's definitely a fine line now.
- 50:34They're definitely getting more strict on it.
- 50:36It didn't look quarterback.
- 50:37Yeah. It didn't look as like the impact would have been as hard as
- 50:41Trevor Lawrence reacted.
- 50:43As you can see, you know, he was do. Yeah. Yeah.
- 50:46It was the hit with the four.
- 50:48Yeah. Right. But then it hit him and then did.
- 50:50And then hit him.
- 50:51Yes. That's that's.
- 50:52Yeah, that was scary, man.
- 50:53I mean, definitely hope he's going to see somebody's angle like that.
- 50:57That's me. Yeah.
- 50:58Yeah. Yeah.
- 50:59I have a hot take on it.
- 51:00How about NFL rules committee?
- 51:03Let's just get rid of the slide.
- 51:04Let's just get rid of it.
- 51:06Every year and I know we're running anymore.
- 51:11Well, no, they can run.
- 51:12You'll have Kyler Murray, Caleb, or somebody like Lamar.
- 51:15But I feel like more quarterbacks get hurt sliding
- 51:18than just trying to get another yard. Yeah.
- 51:22So just get rid of Josh Allen.
- 51:24Josh Allen doesn't slide that often.
- 51:26He just he just like I'll take on both.
- 51:28Oh, yeah.
- 51:29Because there's been a handful, you know, in the shoulders
- 51:32or anything where you'd expect the quarter, like especially his throwing arm.
- 51:34I think that's there.
- 51:35They're just so concerned about injury shoulder or something.
- 51:39But don't run that.
- 51:41Just get rid of it.
- 51:42But then again, it's like I feel like a lot of quarterbacks
- 51:45are using this to their advantage.
- 51:47I see multiple things.
- 51:48Yeah. Just throw the flag if you know.
- 51:50And then it's like what they're going out of bounds, you know,
- 51:53you'll try to get a like a little slide and probably get hit.
- 51:56Now, that's actually going out and then stay in with Pat Mahomes.
- 52:00Like run like running the skirting those lines like I'm going to go out about.
- 52:04He came in. But it's just kidding.
- 52:06But if he gets back in, but if he's tiptoeing on the sideline,
- 52:09you know, and gets cracked, it's the end.
- 52:12You know, light them up.
- 52:13You know, I'm all about thinking and get rid of the slide
- 52:17and just play the game of football.
- 52:19Yeah. You are a runner with the ball.
- 52:22Thank you. No matter what position you leave the pocket.
- 52:24Yeah, if you want to protect the constant, it's well, well, the slide.
- 52:29Because we have to have a full conversation about this guy.
- 52:31This guy's running a four, three Adam.
- 52:33The other guy's running a four, six or whatever, Adam.
- 52:36And we're going frame by frame of leading with elbows and slides
- 52:41or make it a if you're within five yards of defender, you need a slide.
- 52:45Now, it shouldn't be two yards, three yards.
- 52:48And you're trying to time it up.
- 52:49Yeah, it's to be that.
- 52:50Oh, oh, he slapped my head.
- 52:52It's 15. So it's just ruined.
- 52:55I think it's just ruining the game.
- 52:57I don't think it's really protecting the slide. Get rid of it.
- 53:00I've said, Kev, wow, my bad, Kev.
- 53:03He's saying it like he's saying it to. I can feel.
- 53:05I'm just like, yeah, he's checking his head.
- 53:07He's like, yeah, get rid of the slide.
- 53:09I don't watch football, but get rid of it.
- 53:11Don't even need it.
- 53:13With that, Kev, let's go to our week 14 preview and picks.
- 53:28And right back added our week 14 preview and picks.
- 53:33What I'm just doing weird stuff.
- 53:35He's between every, between every segment.
- 53:37I'm just so excited.
- 53:39He's doing he's doing something, but he's always ready, though.
- 53:42I don't need that. You're always ready.
- 53:44He's always prepared.
- 53:45First game, game one of week 14 preview and picks.
- 53:48Of course, we're starting with the Vikings,
- 53:51Falcons at the Vikings, Kirk Cousins coming off a four interception week,
- 53:55coming to the bank. That's going to be loud and rockin.
- 53:59I kind of hope he at least gets a little.
- 54:00Obviously, you feel differently, but I kind of hope he at least gets a little bit
- 54:04of a, you know, a standing ovation.
- 54:06But hey, you know, when they do a little tribute to him, I mean,
- 54:08he still took us to the Super Bowl.
- 54:11Oh, well, apparently, I feel strongly about Kirk.
- 54:15No, he still took us to the playoffs a couple of times.
- 54:18You know that the twenty twenty two season was special until
- 54:21you played the Giants in the first round, you know what I mean? But
- 54:25you know, I think he's on the list somewhere towards the top,
- 54:30actually, for all time passing yard leaders for the Minnesota Vikings.
- 54:33But OK, anyway, Kirk Cousins coming back to the bank.
- 54:37I'm taking the Vikings.
- 54:38I don't really need to explain why I think the defense is just going to eat up
- 54:42Atlanta right now.
- 54:43We were thinking Atlanta was starting to get hot.
- 54:46They were. And now all of a sudden coming out of by.
- 54:49It just seems like that offense is stagnant.
- 54:52Yes, for picks doesn't help.
- 54:53So they're obviously looking for a big bounce back week this week.
- 54:57Rob, which scares me.
- 54:59The whole bounce back thought process is they think they got embarrassed
- 55:02and they're going to come out hard and play.
- 55:04And probably one of the best things the line of Falcons do,
- 55:07they should do against us, is run the ball.
- 55:10And Bijon Robinson is a dog.
- 55:14And the guy. So that's the only way I feel.
- 55:17Atlanta can stay in the game defensively.
- 55:19I don't think they're going to slow us down enough to, you know,
- 55:23it's got to be they got to be in a track meet with us.
- 55:26So I'm thinking this game's going to be in the high 20s.
- 55:29Vikings win. OK.
- 55:30High 20s. So you think it'll be a little closer?
- 55:32Yeah, I mean, I think Atlanta will be able to.
- 55:34I mean, Kurt's a veteran quarterback, so all these all these B-Flo shows,
- 55:39he's going to be like, I've seen this, seen this.
- 55:41Exactly. So it's nothing's going to surprise him as much as last week
- 55:45against, you know, like they had even against Kyler.
- 55:48I don't think he was.
- 55:50Wow, I don't know what B-Flo is sending at me right now.
- 55:53Yeah, you know. Yeah, for sure.
- 55:54No, Kyler seemed like he was kind of slicing and dicing it.
- 55:56And we've kind of seen that a little bit with the Vikings defense as of late.
- 56:00It's not it's a little bit more predictable now.
- 56:03You know what I mean? But they seem like they're not as sending
- 56:05as much of pressure as they were.
- 56:06Yeah, they've been playing a little more coverage to a little bit, you know,
- 56:09and then with Gilmore, you know, would hurt them.
- 56:14And I mean, we're not super deep in our secondary. No.
- 56:17So and that's that's something I was going to bring up.
- 56:20Fabian Moreau. Yeah.
- 56:22Do you think that was a P.I.?
- 56:25Yes. OK. I did.
- 56:26But who the heck is Fabian Moreau?
- 56:29I don't even know who that was. Number 23.
- 56:30That's all I know.
- 56:32I was going to look up, look him up and come with like a big report
- 56:35and all this about who he is, where the heck he even played,
- 56:37because I don't even know who that was.
- 56:39And it maybe we come on the show and tell everybody who they started.
- 56:43They started attacking him. Get him in here.
- 56:45You know what I mean? No, yeah, definitely.
- 56:46But I can't. He played decent coverage on that Marvin Harrison.
- 56:49He did. I will say there's not much.
- 56:51I mean, that's a great throw. Great catch.
- 56:52Anyway, too much about the Vikings.
- 56:54Jake, what do you got Atlanta traveling to Minnesota?
- 56:57I'm going to pick Vikings over the Falcons.
- 57:00I think the defense is a little underrated and trained them well.
- 57:06They're going to they're going to give the Vikings often some some fits,
- 57:10I think, similar to what you saw against the Cardinals in the first half.
- 57:13So the first half might be a little shaky, but I think they'll
- 57:16they'll fight through that and they'll still pull out a W.
- 57:20And I don't think Kirk Cousins is going to get cheered.
- 57:22I think they're going to boo him.
- 57:24You think he's getting booed in the state?
- 57:26Oh, I think for sure he's going to get booed.
- 57:28I personally boo him. Yeah, I mean, there's going to be half and half.
- 57:31I'd be the only one being like, yeah, the booing is going to allow the cheering.
- 57:36Probably. Yeah.
- 57:37You know, Spartans.
- 57:39Who we got the angel?
- 57:41Definitely Vikings.
- 57:42Definitely is going to be closer.
- 57:46I feel like Atlanta might cover.
- 57:48I think they're point plus.
- 57:50Ready? Plus five.
- 57:51I think you're I think you're on to that. Yeah.
- 57:53Yeah, they definitely might cover.
- 57:56But you don't get you don't get points here.
- 57:57I know. Yeah, Vikes.
- 58:00Vikes definitely should win straight out.
- 58:03I'm a little worried, though.
- 58:04You know, Vikings do have what the 28th ranked pass and defense in the league.
- 58:10And Kirk is looking at that.
- 58:14Oh, I mean, last week's game, you can see there's some suspects in the secondary.
- 58:19I mean, Murphy's our best guy, I believe.
- 58:24He's a little inconsistent sometimes, but I mean,
- 58:27I definitely think he handles his business when it's time to play.
- 58:30But I mean, yeah, no, it definitely should be a showboat.
- 58:33I feel like it's definitely going to be a high scoring game.
- 58:36Darno has to come to play.
- 58:38Feed Aaron Jones.
- 58:41There's no way he has five attempts.
- 58:44Yeah, it's literally after that fumble, they just shut him.
- 58:48But I mean, you trusted him.
- 58:50You know, you got him from Green Bay.
- 58:52You know what he can do?
- 58:53He's a boy. Even the ball built up his confidence.
- 58:55Yes. So it's like, man, you got to you got to be a ride or die.
- 58:58So it's like you can't just feed him five times.
- 59:01But that's I feel like that's I mean, that's frustrating.
- 59:04You know, being Aaron Jones, you in Green Bay,
- 59:07you're predominantly getting the ball every game. Yeah.
- 59:10But you know, you come to get fed.
- 59:13Yeah, I'm not too worried about it.
- 59:14He'll get fed. Vikes will Vikes will get the job behind Aaron Jones.
- 59:18So they do got to feed him. Yeah, I agree.
- 59:19100 percent. Next game.
- 59:22Oh, doozy. This is doozy.
- 59:24You guys are this one off.
- 59:26Don't you worry.
- 59:27Packers traveling to Detroit, probably our game of the week.
- 59:30Game of the week with the boys.
- 59:32Big division game for I mean, it's got a lot of the line for the Vikes, too.
- 59:36So who's getting the dub?
- 59:37Oh, lions. Oh, lions.
- 59:39Oh, lions. Take the alternate spread if you like.
- 59:43My spread, I think it's minus two point five.
- 59:46Their plan is safe.
- 59:48That's home. Lions are two and they're at home.
- 59:50Yeah, they're two in rhythm right now, man.
- 59:52Golf is having a stellar season.
- 59:56Oh, my God. Yes, he is.
- 59:57Hats off to golf, man. He's came a long way.
- 1:00:00That's off to golf. Going with the lion. Yeah.
- 1:00:03Kind of. I wouldn't probably.
- 1:00:06What was the score last time they played?
- 1:00:08Was it high? Oh, my God.
- 1:00:10I'm trying to think. Oh, it was close.
- 1:00:12Hmm. I thought it was close.
- 1:00:14No, they won by like 10.
- 1:00:15Well, if I'm not mistaken.
- 1:00:16Somebody looked at it.
- 1:00:18Twenty four, 14. Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:00:20They won by 10. Spot on.
- 1:00:22Yeah. So no, definitely.
- 1:00:24I feel like, yeah, they're probably won by 10 again.
- 1:00:27Once again, I mean, love.
- 1:00:29He's getting back in rhythm.
- 1:00:30So that is going to be a little scary.
- 1:00:32But as long as they can maintain him and Jacobs.
- 1:00:37I'm not worried about the DB.
- 1:00:38They do get a little sus.
- 1:00:39Joseph can, you know, kind of wild out a little bit, but he's
- 1:00:43he's consistent for the most part.
- 1:00:45But yeah, I'm going with lions, man. Fair enough.
- 1:00:47Before anybody else picks so far, we've heard from Ben, our Packer fan.
- 1:00:51He's on Packers. Tyler Packer fan. He's on Packers.
- 1:00:55We got lions from Graham, lions from Trey, lions from Dom Packers
- 1:00:59from Dan, lions from Rachel and lions.
- 1:01:02Oh, I just added you to the list.
- 1:01:04So you're right there.
- 1:01:05There you go. Jake, what do we got?
- 1:01:08I'm going to go with the lions.
- 1:01:12I'm hesitant to say that.
- 1:01:13I know, but has a taste.
- 1:01:15Mike, let's hear it. My concern is the the injuries on the defensive side
- 1:01:20are really starting to add up.
- 1:01:21At what point is that dam going to break?
- 1:01:23And they just can't stop a stop a good offense.
- 1:01:27So that's my biggest concern.
- 1:01:30I what's probably going to make them or allow them to win
- 1:01:34is by controlling the controlling time of possession and giving it to David
- 1:01:39Montgomery and putting it back into Gibbs's hands.
- 1:01:41Like Gibbs fell off the face of the planet like last week
- 1:01:45for no apparent reason.
- 1:01:47And I thought that that didn't help them at all.
- 1:01:52So they need to get back to the back to the two headed running, running game.
- 1:01:56Feed them the ball again.
- 1:01:58Back to talking about running back.
- 1:01:59I like it. I think it's just the way to be.
- 1:02:03Let's see. Packers at Lions.
- 1:02:07Just so you know, Rob, I'm going to do this for the rest of the games now.
- 1:02:10Sorry, fellas. Injuries.
- 1:02:13Josh Jacobs is questionable at the moment, but he was he was limited at practice.
- 1:02:17It's looking like he's probably going to play
- 1:02:20Romeo Dobbs limited at practice because a concussion still.
- 1:02:23Jair Alexander still limited. Yeah.
- 1:02:27That is McDuffie limited participant at Monday's practice.
- 1:02:31So and again, when we record this, it's still early in the week.
- 1:02:34So things could still happen.
- 1:02:36We can change.
- 1:02:38Man, I'm a little bit concerned.
- 1:02:39Are you going with your heart or with facts?
- 1:02:45Thank you.
- 1:02:46Go with your fandom.
- 1:02:48My fandom. How dare you?
- 1:02:49I'm not a fan of either one.
- 1:02:50It's all you picks the charters.
- 1:02:52Chargers. No, which is why you would pick the Packers to which is what I'm going to do.
- 1:02:56I do want I Vikings need the Packers to win.
- 1:02:59But I also think that Jordan Love is playing pretty well right now.
- 1:03:03And again, like he's looking more and more healthy every week.
- 1:03:07Even if they get a little bit of Josh Jacobs,
- 1:03:09I think it's going to be better than nothing at all.
- 1:03:14You know, I still like their receiving core, even without Romeo Dobbs,
- 1:03:17if he's if he's out with a concussion.
- 1:03:18But I think there's enough there.
- 1:03:21I think it's going to be a great game.
- 1:03:22I think it's going to be a different game than it was the first time around.
- 1:03:25Touch on the Watson to win it. No.
- 1:03:29He's a huge Watson fan. That's why I bring it.
- 1:03:31I'm so down on Watson.
- 1:03:32Although last week was ridiculous.
- 1:03:34Yes. I'll give him that.
- 1:03:35But I think I got to go Packers here, man.
- 1:03:37It hurts my soul.
- 1:03:39Yeah, I've been picking them picking them a lot this year,
- 1:03:41and they don't let me down. So.
- 1:03:43So all this for me, I guess, is one of the things I want to be wrong.
- 1:03:47So I'm going Lions.
- 1:03:48I just I don't think the Packers have what it takes to.
- 1:03:51They even have a chance this game.
- 1:03:52No, no. So no chance.
- 1:03:55No, I think I think it's, you know,
- 1:03:57twenty four, ten or fourteen last week style.
- 1:04:01I think the Lions are just going to kind of dominate
- 1:04:03and slowly fade it out to the end.
- 1:04:05It's the I want the pack.
- 1:04:08I want to be wrong. So but I.
- 1:04:10Wait, you want to be wrong. Yeah, I want to be around.
- 1:04:12I want the Packers. No, calm down.
- 1:04:14That's not what I'm saying.
- 1:04:16Yeah, so I'm going Lions,
- 1:04:18but I'll definitely take the out of Packers.
- 1:04:20Then OK. All right.
- 1:04:22Fair enough. Going to the Lions.
- 1:04:24Let's see. Do we all go? Yes, we did.
- 1:04:26Yes, we did. All right.
- 1:04:26Moving into our third game, the Sea Chickens, Seahawks
- 1:04:30traveling to the Arizona Cardinals.
- 1:04:32Division game, division game, big game, actually at that.
- 1:04:36The division pretty much.
- 1:04:38Let's see. Cardinals do not.
- 1:04:40Cardinals do not have any other injuries that are not already on
- 1:04:43IR and the Seahawks.
- 1:04:46Let me look real quick.
- 1:04:46Eight and five and six and six, seven and five,
- 1:04:50seven and five and six and six.
- 1:04:52OK, where are the Seahawks here?
- 1:04:54I'm almost there.
- 1:04:55Whoops. Well, well, there we go.
- 1:04:57There we go. Let's see.
- 1:04:59DK is questionable, tweaked his knee.
- 1:05:04Something something.
- 1:05:05He's going to play.
- 1:05:05Just questionable. Punter's questionable.
- 1:05:08Michael Dickerson is his.
- 1:05:09Dixon is his name, if you guys need to know the punter.
- 1:05:12He'll play.
- 1:05:13AJ Finley safety, nothing there.
- 1:05:15So yeah, looks like we're fairly healthy on both sides
- 1:05:18other than the, you know, the injuries they've already lost for the year.
- 1:05:21So, Rob, who you got first here?
- 1:05:25Wait, let me tell you who out
- 1:05:28who everybody else think that's and persuade me.
- 1:05:30What? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:05:32So maybe maybe so Ben Packer fan with the Cardinals.
- 1:05:37Graham with the Cardinals, Trey Cardinals, Dom Cardinals, Dan Cardinals,
- 1:05:42Rachel Seachickens, Tyler, Tyler Seachickens.
- 1:05:46So we got we got two Seahawks right now compared to five cards.
- 1:05:50We got I think Seachickens are in this one.
- 1:05:53Oh, Seachickens all the way for Rob.
- 1:05:55Yeah. Do you explain some dollars solid ball
- 1:05:58divisional game Cardinals?
- 1:06:00So they've seen each other enough.
- 1:06:02So yeah, I'd see Seahawks and playing some good football,
- 1:06:06especially on the defense.
- 1:06:07Defense of line has been really, really messing with some teams.
- 1:06:11So and I and the cardinal like the Cardinals played that bad either.
- 1:06:14No, I know.
- 1:06:16I think that's a hostile.
- 1:06:18Yeah. 24, 23, see chickens.
- 1:06:21Oh, OK. Interest.
- 1:06:23Another one point game. OK.
- 1:06:25The angel. What we got?
- 1:06:27Oh, Seahawks.
- 1:06:29I definitely know what's going on.
- 1:06:32I think Arizona just doesn't have
- 1:06:36what it takes to just dominate the Seahawks defense. OK.
- 1:06:40I mean, you know, yeah, you got Harrison.
- 1:06:44You got McBride.
- 1:06:46Yeah, McBride McBride. Oh, my God.
- 1:06:48Standout guy, man.
- 1:06:49He's been balling. Hasn't gotten to the end zone.
- 1:06:52Yeah. Good point.
- 1:06:5374 catches can't get a touchdown, but he shows up.
- 1:06:56He definitely shows up.
- 1:06:57So it's like, but yeah, once again, Genos, I'm taking him.
- 1:07:01Well, he's top five in passing this year.
- 1:07:04Yes, he is. Yeah.
- 1:07:05He's been balling, man. Hats off to him once again.
- 1:07:07And when Kenneth Walker's healthy, I love the guy Walker.
- 1:07:10And I think Charbonneau is back.
- 1:07:12He had a touch. Yeah, Tati.
- 1:07:13I really like Charbonneau in college and they did.
- 1:07:15Yeah, no, he's just like, yeah, he definitely dominated.
- 1:07:18And who's the receiver? Jackson Smith.
- 1:07:20And he's been in the state, right?
- 1:07:24He's been tearing it up lately.
- 1:07:26Yeah. But yeah,
- 1:07:28so you're obviously going to see chickens here.
- 1:07:31I pick Seahawks a lot this year.
- 1:07:33That's why I'm going Cardinals, actually.
- 1:07:35I saw enough from them in the Vikings game this past weekend
- 1:07:40that that shows me they they can they can beat the Seahawks for sure,
- 1:07:43especially at home in Arizona.
- 1:07:45It's not a huge, I'd say, home field advantage.
- 1:07:48I like I've only been I only went there once,
- 1:07:51but when I did at the end of the season, so it's like this
- 1:07:53bunch of walkers like clanging together.
- 1:07:58Yeah, no, but
- 1:08:01but I mean, they're still at home, right?
- 1:08:02They're not playing in Seattle.
- 1:08:03I think if they're playing in Seattle, that changes it for me.
- 1:08:06I was very one defense in front of their fans.
- 1:08:08It's just craziness.
- 1:08:10But Seattle fans travel well, too.
- 1:08:12So yes, they do.
- 1:08:13But I think I got to take take the Cardinals here on this one.
- 1:08:16But I think this will be a great game.
- 1:08:18I don't know about one point, but it could be one possession for sure.
- 1:08:20Yeah. Jake, what we got last time I picked the sea chickens
- 1:08:24that came back to bite me.
- 1:08:25That's what I'm saying.
- 1:08:27But maybe this is you listen to me. Right.
- 1:08:29Yeah, this might change your mind, though.
- 1:08:31So I was taking a look at the Cardinals out of the six wins
- 1:08:34that the Cardinals have.
- 1:08:36Only one of those is against a team of the winning record. Yeah. Sure.
- 1:08:39So any of their other wins at best there, the teams are six and six,
- 1:08:43or they had a losing record going into the game.
- 1:08:46So I'm going to just like the Chargers. Right.
- 1:08:49So I'm just going to I'm going to take the sea chickens
- 1:08:51because the Cardinals don't have it in them to be a winning team or a good team.
- 1:08:57So they don't got it. They don't got it. OK.
- 1:09:00Well, I think they're going to prove you guys wrong this week.
- 1:09:03I think you're wrong.
- 1:09:06Just because I fair enough.
- 1:09:08I just think the Cardinals have been building since last season.
- 1:09:10Last season wasn't good for them, but getting Kyler Murray back up to speed
- 1:09:14and he's getting there,
- 1:09:16getting back into that pre injury Murray and I don't know.
- 1:09:19I don't know. Whatever. Feeling it.
- 1:09:21It should be fun. It should be a good game.
- 1:09:22Definitely should. Good match up.
- 1:09:24I'll watch it. I mean, for the division lead. Yeah.
- 1:09:29Let's see here. Bills at Rams.
- 1:09:31We have a clean slate of Bills so far.
- 1:09:35Let's see.
- 1:09:36When did you start? We'll start with you again.
- 1:09:38Yeah, I can't. Bills at Rams.
- 1:09:40I can't pick against the Bills right now.
- 1:09:42Just too high. Too hot. Too hot.
- 1:09:45Way too hot. Interesting.
- 1:09:46Their defense is getting healthier to Matt Milano's back.
- 1:09:50Which was huge for them.
- 1:09:50Right. As he continues to get more reps and back into it,
- 1:09:53I think their defense is just going to continue to get better.
- 1:09:55It's going to take them a couple of weeks to get fully up to speed.
- 1:09:58But by playoffs, no problem.
- 1:10:00I mean, that's a huge piece to have back defensively. Yep. Rob.
- 1:10:05I'm going Rams. Going Rams.
- 1:10:07I'm going to join you to.
- 1:10:09The reason why is just I mean, the Bills,
- 1:10:11I was going to see how many home games they've played lately.
- 1:10:14I feel like almost most of their games have been at home in the snow.
- 1:10:18You know, like so that home field advantage.
- 1:10:20But the Rams have been a scrappy team all year.
- 1:10:23They have still have.
- 1:10:24They got they got all their studs still. They're all back.
- 1:10:27Every game, they're competitive.
- 1:10:29And the Bills, other than if James Cook,
- 1:10:33that they get a big league to start, most of the games are competitive.
- 1:10:36You know, and let's all and the Rams are the typical kind of team
- 1:10:40that keep most games kind of close.
- 1:10:42You know, they don't get blown out very often.
- 1:10:44And I think they have enough. So I'm going Rams home.
- 1:10:47Going Rams at home. Yep. And I will join you actually with that.
- 1:10:50And it is more along the lines of that scrappiness.
- 1:10:52You know, we've seen them in these games with these with better teams, you know,
- 1:10:57and they're right there. If not every week, we've talked about them.
- 1:11:00We're like, oh, they're going to lose.
- 1:11:02And usually we talk about them ruining somebody else's week.
- 1:11:05I mean, they beat us. Oh, for sure.
- 1:11:08Well, and obviously that's best team in the league.
- 1:11:11Yeah. Who we got?
- 1:11:13Oh, I'm going with the Bills.
- 1:11:15Going with the Bills by a landslide.
- 1:11:17Landslide slide. Yeah, man.
- 1:11:20I mean, Helen is just filling himself right now, man.
- 1:11:23I got him. Passing, running.
- 1:11:26Do you see the trickery?
- 1:11:27So it's like for them to stop him, just him, not even talking about Cook,
- 1:11:33just him, it's going to take all they got.
- 1:11:36And then now you're going to have to go stop the run game.
- 1:11:39So it's like, man, I just don't think they they have the defense
- 1:11:43to contain the Bills offense right now, especially with Alan playing like he is.
- 1:11:48He should have a field day.
- 1:11:49I'm thinking probably like 250, 300 in there. OK. OK.
- 1:11:55You think he's going to get back to back trifectas, passing touchdown,
- 1:11:58receiving touchdown, rushing touchdown?
- 1:12:00I got a fantasy. I hope he does it twice.
- 1:12:02They're a little soap-bone at that point.
- 1:12:04I'm like, yeah, the snow, the trickery is there.
- 1:12:07But now they're definitely going to come out with a punch, though, for sure.
- 1:12:11I think he's in a kid introduced to Jared verse.
- 1:12:14I didn't even do the injuries. Oh, well, the defense man for the Rams.
- 1:12:18He's having a really solid year.
- 1:12:20Like he might be in the contention rookie of the year.
- 1:12:23Oh, OK. Interesting. On the defensive side.
- 1:12:27All right. We were talking about Gennard.
- 1:12:29Yeah, you were talking about.
- 1:12:31Well, and if he like still had no one else's came up with the name,
- 1:12:36I just I don't know.
- 1:12:37I'll do that research for I'll look for a defensive player of the year
- 1:12:39that's not on the Vikings because I still question
- 1:12:42with whether or not Gennard would be defensive player of the year
- 1:12:45on the Vikings themselves.
- 1:12:46I guess you got it.
- 1:12:47I think Van Ginkgo's, you know, in there. But
- 1:12:52yeah, last game here.
- 1:12:53Jaguars at Titans, we kind of picked we could have went
- 1:12:56Chargers going to Kansas City.
- 1:12:58Yeah, most people probably would have took Kansas City.
- 1:13:02This one is more of a split here.
- 1:13:04Not as much so far.
- 1:13:05We got two Jaguars, but most taken the Titans in this game.
- 1:13:08And again, it is in Tennessee.
- 1:13:11A Mac Jones led Jaguars, most likely playing against Will Levis.
- 1:13:15Well, we got I guess I'll go first, actually.
- 1:13:19I'm going to take a chance here. I'm going to take the Jags.
- 1:13:22That is a chance. I know.
- 1:13:24It is a chance.
- 1:13:26I think the Titans will actually win the game, but
- 1:13:29just because I like Will Levis over Mac Jones.
- 1:13:32Mac Jones did not look awesome when he came in for Trevor Lawrence last week.
- 1:13:35But yeah, Jaguars need a win.
- 1:13:39And this is and this is a winnable.
- 1:13:40I need a million dollars to.
- 1:13:43You just requested it happens, right?
- 1:13:45But I don't know.
- 1:13:46I I think the Jaguars defense will do enough to disturb Will Levis.
- 1:13:52It's going to be close at nine to six or something goofy.
- 1:13:55You know, I mean, super ugly game.
- 1:13:57That's why it's here.
- 1:13:58You know, it's going to be a super ugly.
- 1:13:59Everyone was on Broadway getting wasted the night before.
- 1:14:02Who knows?
- 1:14:03Would I just see the picture of the new stadium?
- 1:14:05The Tennessee is building.
- 1:14:06It's nice, but it's going to be a Tennessee all day on this one.
- 1:14:10I think I think it's going to be a blow up.
- 1:14:11I think blow out and see.
- 1:14:13Beat them up. Yeah.
- 1:14:14Twenty eight, three, some dumb like that.
- 1:14:18I think we might even go to their backup after Mac Jones gets sacked 15 times.
- 1:14:22I don't even know who Mac Jones is back would be at this point, but 15 times.
- 1:14:26Ouch. I don't know.
- 1:14:27There's an NFL record.
- 1:14:28Lawrence Taylor is coming out of the woodwork. All right.
- 1:14:32D'Angelo, who we got?
- 1:14:34Jakes, man.
- 1:14:37Definitely. They showed me a lot.
- 1:14:39I guess Houston the other week.
- 1:14:42They play gritty.
- 1:14:43They scrapped it out.
- 1:14:45I mean, well, yeah, he's definitely he's getting up to par.
- 1:14:48He's he's getting in his his groove.
- 1:14:50I feel like he might, you know, be the franchise quarterback for the Titans.
- 1:14:54It's leaning towards that way.
- 1:14:56But yeah, I'm going with Titans.
- 1:14:58I definitely think they win by at least one or two possessions. OK.
- 1:15:02Fair enough.
- 1:15:03Fair enough, Jake.
- 1:15:04Last but not least, wrapping it up for us, Jags at Titans.
- 1:15:07Taking Titans.
- 1:15:09Fishposh. It's Titans have more weapons
- 1:15:14than the Jags do right now.
- 1:15:16Like hand grenades, grenade launchers, bazookas, all that.
- 1:15:20Yeah. Or like who was the guy that said that in the thing?
- 1:15:23Sorry, I'm ruining your take right now.
- 1:15:26Then someone like some football player is talking about defense
- 1:15:30and he was talking about all those arsenal.
- 1:15:32He was really like it was Kevin Garnett or something.
- 1:15:34Yeah, sounds really funny.
- 1:15:35Either way, continue.
- 1:15:36Basketball take. Yeah.
- 1:15:38Oh, it's just like more and better weapons right now.
- 1:15:42They're just healthier. But no,
- 1:15:44I mean, the Jags did rally around Mack Jones,
- 1:15:47even though he didn't really play that well after he got
- 1:15:49or after Trevor Lawrence got hurt.
- 1:15:51But because the Titans had to pull that one out of their behind.
- 1:15:55Yeah. Last week.
- 1:15:56So but I think it's a matter of healthy talent.
- 1:15:59Titans. OK. All right.
- 1:16:01Jaguars. Yep. Got it.
- 1:16:02So yeah, Jaguars on the point.
- 1:16:05Did anyone take the Jaguars other than you?
- 1:16:07Me and our leader, Dan and Daniel.
- 1:16:11And I said I like for fourth place, Trey also took the Jags.
- 1:16:15So I try I got to go with who's winning.
- 1:16:17You know what I mean? Yeah.
- 1:16:18But if you did, you end up having to be able to clip that
- 1:16:22that there it is right there.
- 1:16:23So if you take a look right there,
- 1:16:26the standings are on the right side.
- 1:16:27I did add another column called games played there on the right
- 1:16:31to make some of us feel a little bit better that have been here for a minute.
- 1:16:35That but anyway.
- 1:16:38And then on the far right, you see some movement there.
- 1:16:40So Trey and Cody, you see Trey climb three spots, Kodak, six.
- 1:16:44They're both tied for four based on again, we're basing this on season
- 1:16:48win percentage.
- 1:16:50Ben dropped a spot. Jake dropped three.
- 1:16:52It was a rough week. Ouch.
- 1:16:55Don't give I'm lower than you.
- 1:16:56So you're good.
- 1:16:57Rob dropped two and is now tied with me again.
- 1:17:01But I don't I have the Robin.
- 1:17:02I have the same record at forty one and twenty four.
- 1:17:04Yeah, I call that. Yeah.
- 1:17:06I went to everybody.
- 1:17:09Dom Dom had a better week.
- 1:17:10Dom went. What do you go?
- 1:17:12He went four and one this week.
- 1:17:13So he was the best this week. Dom.
- 1:17:15We had three five and ohs.
- 1:17:18Ben five and oh, better.
- 1:17:19Trey five and oh, Cody five and oh.
- 1:17:22And then, yeah, Dom went four and one.
- 1:17:24Tyler went four and one. Matt went four and one.
- 1:17:27So a lot of movement this week.
- 1:17:29But if you look, all twelve of us are above five hundred.
- 1:17:33I mean, that's that's pretty cool.
- 1:17:35I know not all the experts on TV do that.
- 1:17:38Yeah. And we usually pick games that are pretty even.
- 1:17:42We try to not have a one sided Chargers versus Chiefs game very often.
- 1:17:46Right. Right. Attempt to.
- 1:17:48But it's going to get more interesting as we keep getting closer to the playoffs.
- 1:17:52Obviously, you'll be on the list next week.
- 1:17:54We have a two week minimum, though, before you get placed in the.
- 1:17:56Yeah, it could help you. Qualifier.
- 1:17:58You know, I mean, the work could be taking you away from a first place.
- 1:18:01You know what I mean? So, OK.
- 1:18:03So a hot start is a good idea.
- 1:18:05I mean, clearly, Dan showing us with which is record right now.
- 1:18:09Dan's record is 16 and four at the moment.
- 1:18:12So not bad.
- 1:18:14But like season long leader at the moment with 50 games played as Tyler,
- 1:18:17he's still showing that that's 36 and 14.
- 1:18:21Seven twenty.
- 1:18:22Solid where I want to say save percentage again.
- 1:18:24So hockey. But yeah, anyway.
- 1:18:28So there's our current standings.
- 1:18:30D'Angelo, thanks for joining us.
- 1:18:32So I appreciate you guys.
- 1:18:33Now, we're pumped to have you on.
- 1:18:35It's great to have a Detroit Lions fan in the house
- 1:18:38through and through and me inside the gate. Right.
- 1:18:41Yes, sir. Back next week. Yeah.
- 1:18:43What is it? One pride.
- 1:18:45That what you guys say? Yeah.
- 1:18:46I mean, he said, yeah, with the high.
- 1:18:51I mean, they got a lot of new fans, the grit sand.
- 1:18:55And I mean, hey, you know, once you start winning, you start changing.
- 1:18:58How about we just say Detroit, Detroit Lions?
- 1:19:01And they're winning the division right now.
- 1:19:02I thought it was just the Roars been restored.
- 1:19:04Roars. Yeah.
- 1:19:06Yeah. Restore the roar.
- 1:19:08And he was like, guys, please stop.
- 1:19:11They're what, eleven and one right now? Yeah.
- 1:19:14Got to feel good to be a Lions fan.
- 1:19:16They finally win it, you know, so for sure.
- 1:19:18Secretly, I'm cheering for you, too, but
- 1:19:21kind of. Yeah.
- 1:19:22Maybe when we're out.
- 1:19:24But Jake, thanks for joining us for another week.
- 1:19:27Thanks, Jacob.
- 1:19:28You're welcome.
- 1:19:29Hoping to see your your Baltimore Ravens.
- 1:19:32Maybe battle for the division even yet.
- 1:19:34Fingers crossed.
- 1:19:35You need Pittsburgh to lose.
- 1:19:36Yeah, that's a much needed loss.
- 1:19:38Let's make that happen.
- 1:19:40Do you think they can lose?
- 1:19:41Do you think there's a possibility Pittsburgh loses to Cleveland this week?
- 1:19:45Yes, because James Jameson Winston makes the Browns really scrappy.
- 1:19:51They are, though.
- 1:19:52Yeah. And the only the only downside is, you know, you know,
- 1:19:55he's good for three touchdowns and three interceptions every game.
- 1:19:59Really? And maybe like 300 yards.
- 1:20:01Yeah. Right. He's moving the ball somewhere.
- 1:20:03You know, it just might not be the same direction as everybody else.
- 1:20:06Yeah, he counted for six touchdowns yesterday and a really other team.
- 1:20:10Yeah. But hey, there's six of them.
- 1:20:12Thanks. Yeah.
- 1:20:14He just has weird, awkward press conference.
- 1:20:16This is my.
- 1:20:18He's goofy, man.
- 1:20:19He's goofy.
- 1:20:20He's funny. He might be fun to hang out with.
- 1:20:23He's funny.
- 1:20:24He's super fun to hang out with.
- 1:20:27I mean, old Seminole, you know, them dudes are crazy, man.
- 1:20:29I'm a Florida State dude.
- 1:20:30That's what you were talking colleges earlier.
- 1:20:32So, yeah. But yeah.
- 1:20:34Rob, of course, as always, thanks for being here this week, fam.
- 1:20:37You did well. Thanks. Thanks.
- 1:20:39We try to do a weekend. Obviously, I'm smelly here.
- 1:20:42Kev, don't forget about Kev behind the camera.
- 1:20:44He's a boy back there.
- 1:20:45Getting everything done, getting everything edited for us.
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