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WWE SummerSlam Predictions and Hogan's Legacy A Week Later | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #807 – 07/31/25 · Real. Guy. Pods.

• 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,000 It's still real to me, damn it! 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:10,000 [MUSIC] 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:25,000 Welcome everybody, welcome to this week's edition of the Storilla Show episode of our 807 for July 31, 2025. 4 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:32,000 This is your WWE Summer's Lamb, preview and predictions edition of SRTU. 5 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:39,000 I am one after the show, I am Jeff Pek, joined every single week of my close-alone, Donutray Franklin. 6 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:43,000 Dr. Trey, are you ready for the biggest party of the summer, my friend? 7 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:47,000 So, we're talking about the Major League Baseball Trade deadline, which is tomorrow, right? 8 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:51,000 Yeah, by the time this drops, I mean, hopefully, if some trades here. 9 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,000 I know my team's on at least three of them. 10 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,000 Yeah, you guys got what Austin Slater? 11 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:59,000 Yeah, good job on that one, but no, yeah, yeah, it was an NXT for a little bit. 12 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:04,000 After the last, is he, what did he, Slater's kids that Slater was talking about 10 years ago? 13 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,000 He is, yep, there you go. 14 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,000 That's what him and Rhino were fighting for, Austin Slater, New York Yankee. 15 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:21,000 But no, like, given, I was setting off here, given the week I've had with basically 1985 dying for me in the last seven days, 16 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:29,000 I need, I need some fun, I need some excitement, I need some joy, I need the trade deadline to be good, and I need summer slam to be awesome. 17 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:33,000 Because it's about celebrities dying in threes, I had it in force. 18 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,000 It was for me that just wrecked my week. 19 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:43,000 So, yeah, I am excited about summer slam, I'm excited about possibilities, I'm excited about chaos. 20 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,000 I'm excited if things just go status quo and we have a good show. 21 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:52,000 Either way, I'm excited because I need to get something off my brain from what's gone on the last seven days. 22 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:56,000 So Ozzy Hogan Sandberg, who was the fourth? 23 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,000 Malcolm Jamal Warner. 24 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,000 Oh, yes, the Cosby Show. 25 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:07,000 Yeah, so it was literally like everything I was doing in 1985, which was basically watching the Cosby Show, because Bill was a good guy back then. 26 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:15,000 So watching the Cosby Show, listening to Black Sabbath, watching Hulk Hogan, and then that's when I became a Cubs fan, 27 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:19,000 was the 84/85 season for Donald and it becomes the Ryan Sandberg. 28 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,000 Yep, that 84 season for the Cubs was magical. 29 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:29,000 Yeah, I mean, Sandberg was the MVP, and that was Harry Carey's, I mean, that's what every day I would get off school, 30 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:35,000 the Cubs were playing in the afternoon, because they didn't have the light sting installed until 89 or 90. 31 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:42,000 So every day afternoon coming from school, I could flip on WGN, and there's Ryan Sandberg hitting home runs for the Cubs. 32 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:50,000 So. Yeah, let's talk about it here, because we did last week's show, the Hogan Tribute Show was about six, seven, eight hours after the news, 33 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,000 broke that he had passed away that earlier that day. 34 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:57,000 And I've had a lot of time to really think about the Hogan stuff. 35 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:05,000 I don't think there's ever been, let me preface this by saying Dr. Try, I don't think there's ever been a death like this one. 36 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:11,000 That is so under a microscope, quite like Hulk Hogan's. 37 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:23,000 I cannot think usually when like a celebrity passes away, a notable figure, it's people turn over and it's like Ray Mosin butterflies, no matter what happened. 38 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:29,000 This was like one of the most conflicted deaths I could ever remember in my entire lifetime. 39 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:33,000 Yeah, because it is like two people died. 40 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,000 Yes, yes, Harry Belayah died. 41 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,000 Yes. 42 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:43,000 And a lot of people were like, he was a horrible person and then Hulk Hogan died. 43 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:50,000 I mean, I don't know if you've ever, I can't think, maybe when Harrison Ford died, I'm trying to think of somebody else who's so iconic. 44 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:51,000 Harrison Ford? 45 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,000 No, I'm saying it when he dies. 46 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,000 Okay. 47 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:59,000 I mean, you could say, I mean, you could say Betty White, but she was like university loved. 48 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,000 Oh, yeah, that's what I'm saying. 49 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:07,000 Probably, you know, who would be comparable is when Trump passes away. 50 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:11,000 Yeah, I would say Trump, Marlon Brando, Brando died. 51 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,000 I mean, it might be a little bit too far back for some people to remember. 52 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:20,000 Like Brando as a person, I always heard like really negative things about, but I mean, he's the godfather. 53 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:26,000 Well, it's a very iconic character that people still cling to this day. 54 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,000 Well, I'll mention in here because we talked about it on the show. 55 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:34,000 I think probably the most comparable death will be when Vince McMahon passes away. 56 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:38,000 What about George Steinbrenner for you? 57 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,000 Yeah, I think that's a probably good comparison. 58 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:45,000 Steinbrenner was not beloved pre-1996. 59 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:57,000 And then as the years went on, and they were winning championships, and he became more of like an elderly figure, I felt like Steinbrenner was more appreciated by the fan base. 60 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,000 He wasn't as vile and hated for Mike. 61 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,000 His first three quarters of running the team. 62 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:07,000 But when he died, I mean, was that 15 years ago, probably? 63 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,000 2010, yeah. 64 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:10,000 Yeah. 65 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:15,000 So you were kind of like on the precipice of really getting into the media and you're in the Northeast area. 66 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:22,000 Like, what was the stories like he saved the Yankees, but he was also a crappy person? 67 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:30,000 Well, here's the thing, right? And I think this, you've heard this about Hulk Ogan, and I think you'll eventually hear this about Vince McMahon as well. 68 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:38,000 Is whenever there is someone who is a controversial figure, as you're pointing out here, George Steinbrenner is a great comparison. 69 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:49,000 The amount of people who would share stories about Steinbrenner after he had passed that like he didn't want people to know where he was donating any money for entire wings of hospitals and stuff like that. 70 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,000 And he was like, oh, this person was human. 71 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:57,000 And it basically changed the. 72 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:03,000 This is going to be interesting because this is going to weave in and out of some of my thoughts on the past week. 73 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:08,000 The Yankees control the narrative of George Steinbrenner passing away. 74 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:18,000 Even to this day when you go to Yankees stadium, there is a huge gigantic mural in the outfield bleachers of George Steinbrenner where it says the year he was born in 2010. 75 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:24,000 The Panaman Park is, which is a place where they keep all their plaques for numbers that they've retired, Hall of Fame players. 76 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:32,000 There's in the dead center of it, no pun intended, is George Steinbrenner, a huge gigantic plaque. 77 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:38,000 And I've always been vehemently against that because I don't think he should have a bigger plaque than any player. 78 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,000 But they control the narrative. 79 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:47,000 And I think in the last week from Friday Smackdown to now, when you and I record this, and Monday's RAW has been in the books, 80 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,000 Tuesday's NXT has been in the books. 81 00:06:49,000 --> 00:07:03,000 I think WWE has kind of seen how things were going and did the best they could to control the narrative and legacy of Whole Kogan over the last couple days because Thursday was weird. 82 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:13,000 It was weird because I don't think, you know, I had a lot of feelings from 10 years ago when the racist comments came out. 83 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:22,000 And I remember doing the podcast, talking about it. And I was like heartbroken with the things that he said. 84 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:29,000 And I just knew there was going to come a time where his entire legacy changed at that point. 85 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,000 He had a lot of bad stuff going on, a lot of bad press. 86 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:38,000 It was the stuff with Bubba the Love Sponges, wife that came out and then the racist comments came out. 87 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:44,000 He's battling Gawker and it was completely tarnishing his legacy. 88 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:49,000 And I was heartbroken over that because I was at the biggest Hulk of Maniac in the world. 89 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:53,000 He wasn't my favorite wrestler from the late 80s, really 90s. 90 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:59,000 But again, this will be things that I've thought about in the last couple days since he passed. 91 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,000 It was so closely knit and tied to my childhood. 92 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:15,000 So I feel like WWE and really professional wrestling as a whole have tried as a good percentage of the whole has tried to control the narrative. 93 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:19,000 I think that there were a lot of negative comments obviously when he passed away. 94 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,000 And this is stuff that is he said it. 95 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,000 I mean, it's it's warranted. 96 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:35,000 He was not probably a beloved figure publicly by the time he passed away. His last time in professional wrestling he was booed out of the building in California at the Netflix debut. 97 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:41,000 But I think a lot of people, there's a good percentage of people who they may not like Hulk Ogan. 98 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:46,000 But they wanted to use this as an opportunity to spread love and not hate. 99 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:53,000 And they kind of pushed a lot of feelings aside and thought about the guy's family and his friends who do love him and do know him on a personal level. 100 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:58,000 And they've tried to change that that narrative over the last couple days. 101 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:07,000 It was a weird show last Thursday, Dr. Dre. There was a lot of emotions and it was hard to be like completely truthful and honest about Hulk Ogan because of some of the stuff that he did. 102 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:13,000 But I felt like there's been a lot of people who are trying to remember the good times of Hulk Ogan rather than the bad. 103 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:22,000 Yeah, and it's it's it's weird because a lot of the hate I've seen come out are from people who never worked with the man. 104 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:27,000 And so they're just in a lot of ways they're kind of basing their 105 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:31,000 sublimations off of what they've heard. 106 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,000 But you know, I saw Devon Dudley come out. 107 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:41,000 And Devon said that like Hogan came up and like just straight out flat out apologize to him for stuff. 108 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:45,000 And you know, Booker T says some nice things and Mark Henry says some really nice things. 109 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:51,000 There hasn't been a lot of now granted a lot of the people he worked with. 110 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:58,000 In the 80s and 90s are no longer here. So it's hard to kind of get their opinion on the man. 111 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:15,000 But like I just saw the episode or I saw the video clip even from the WWE Treasures show when Mick Foley went down to Tampa to try and get something from Hulk Ogan and Hulk Ogan apologizing to Mick Foley. 112 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:23,000 I do think he tried to make amends before he passed for the most part with the people he could. 113 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:32,000 I think there is a lot of bad blood that unfortunately he could never fix because the people passed on before he did and a lot of folks hang on to that stuff as well. 114 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:44,000 So, but it is kind of like trying to think like there really is I mean Steinberg is probably the best compares I think of because in a lot of ways Yankee fans like that stadium that you have 115 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:54,000 seasoned tickets to is built in large parts because of the success that Yankee's had that George Steinbreder had a large hand in producing. 116 00:10:54,000 --> 00:11:04,000 So it is like it's like it's so like I understand like the weird feelings of seeing the plaque in center field knowing what the man was for the majority of his life. 117 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:08,000 But that stadium wouldn't be there if it was not for him. 118 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:17,000 And I feel like that's a lot of ways where wrestling is right now where like you're looking going wrestling would not be where it is today if not for Hulk Ogan. 119 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:21,000 But Terry Bollet may not have been the best human being of all time. 120 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:32,000 So I think there is like this weird you know you're torn in a lot of ways where it's like I appreciate him for everything he contributed to the business. 121 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:44,000 And those family and friends who knew him and you know in a lot of ways I I wreck I understand this were like people that are in my circle know how I am as a loyal friend. 122 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:48,000 But people who just kind of meet me that I don't really I'm not the nicest person in the world all the time. 123 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:57,000 So I understand that dichotomy that contrast between who the man was as a person and then who he portrayed. 124 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:05,000 And that's what makes this emotionally charged because you're celebrating the contributions to the business. 125 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:14,000 But you also don't want to feel like it's a personal acceptance of everything that's you know he did during his life as a human. 126 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:20,000 I do want to point out like Steinbrenner was never known to do anything racist any comments like hoping was. 127 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:29,000 Reggie now Reggie said back in the there was Reggie Jackson did say back in the day that he was like there was whispers in the 70s and 80s. 128 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:36,000 So I remember that that's interesting because I know that he's kind of always been portrayed as like the anti racist and wanted to give. 129 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,000 Well it's kind of like in an opportunity. 130 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:50,000 You brought the Trump comparison like Trump is viewed as a racist but yet he's got no words from the NAACP for how much good he's done in the African American community like. 131 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:56,000 That's one of those things were like sometimes when a businessman does something against you and you take it personally you kind of lean on. 132 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,000 Personal attributes and not just. 133 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:08,000 The actual merit side of it so like I remember like it might have been Billy Martin during one of his one of his firings with him like I had heard him back when I was a kid. 134 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:13,000 Because I was like that's ridiculous because as a kid you don't really understand racism. 135 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:19,000 You know you don't understand like people just dislike you because of the color your skin that makes no sense but. 136 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:30,000 But yeah I guess it is these people like that where they're so polarizing personally but they're accomplished in their business is so great. 137 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,000 It's hard to balance that at times. 138 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:47,000 Yeah it certainly is and I think probably the closest comparison that we will see is is of when Vince passes away especially right now I mean he is not looked at in a good light. 139 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:56,000 Kind of could consider it like an evil businessman and I think he's the one of the most influential people in professional wrestling history of not the number one person. 140 00:13:56,000 --> 00:14:10,000 You know it was him and Hogan that really changed the game so it was definitely an odd couple of days and weeks or a week listening to the stories about Hulk Hogan and I and I it's funny that you had said like two people passed away because. 141 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:21,000 I heard Sam Roberts say that that same comparison where he didn't know who Terry Belay was but he knew who Hulk Hogan was and Hulk Hogan was a hero and it's like. 142 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:32,000 It's kind of like a soft way of looking at the entire thing and being it's being okay to be sad about it because of how important Hulk Hogan was. 143 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:47,000 I mean I watched that I watched that thing that they aired on Monday with the music playing the song ordinary to the history of Hulk Hogan and professional wrestling and it just like flooded with nostalgia. 144 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:57,000 I mean I think it was a childhood memories and moments that it's like these I this is what brought me to professional wrestling my dad who passed away earlier this year. 145 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:15,000 You know one of the reasons why he would sit down and watch wrestling and put it on the television was because of Hulk Hogan and you know a household name and it's like you think about those things and how special it was and how important was and how it gave you that love of professional wrestling that it basically started with Hulk Hogan. 146 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:24,000 And here we are now and he should be celebrated for his accomplishments because it's true where would professional wrestling be today that wasn't for Hulk Hogan. 147 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:43,000 I mean that is factual so it's been interesting to see how WWE's kind of control the narrative a little bit and how the wrestling world is kind of quasi rallied around this entire situation and being like yes we acknowledge that there were some bad things that he did and said some bad things. 148 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:59,000 But for the sake of his legacy his family his friends we got to talk about the good and they're usually in a world where there's so much trolling and hate nowadays you're seeing a good percentage of people trying to fight back with love. 149 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:28,000 Which I want to bring up like the last point here and I don't know how there's any easier way of saying this Dr. Trey but I got to be honest I was pretty disappointed that AW did not really do anything outside of the comments from Tony Shivani on collision they never did a graphic never posted anything online and Tony Khan has been vehemently vocal about his disdain and dislike for Terry Hulk Hogan Balea. 150 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:54,000 But I think for the good of the industry and good of professional wrestling it's like acknowledge it especially when there are people who are believed to be from the outside very close with Hulk Hogan one being Paul White who cried during Hulk Hogan's Hall of Fame speech in 2005 I remember that watching that when it was when it was taking place live Adam Copeland Edge was a Hulk maniac had a great relationship with Hulk Hogan. 151 00:16:54,000 --> 00:17:00,000 I thought that was bad you could throw up a graphic whether you buying the scenes like or dislike the guy. 152 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:13,000 CM Punk still stood out on the stage on Monday night next next Bruce Pritchard Nick Hogan and gave his respects to Hulk Hogan and there's been a lot of comments made by CM Punk over the years even very recently about Hulk Hogan. 153 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:21,000 I just felt that that was the respectful thing to do and I was disappointed that AW did not really do anything outside of Tony Shivani's comments on collision. 154 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:40,000 Yeah, and that kind of leads into why said initially like a lot of the blowback in you know animosity towards Terry Balea slash Hulk Hogan were from people that never work with them and we're just going off what they had heard or you know just whatever it is or just trying to be against him to get into. 155 00:17:40,000 --> 00:18:06,000 I think a lot of Tony, I don't know any personal interactions Tony Khan actually had with Hulk Hogan. I know he's had a feud with Eric Bishoff over the last years and maybe in some ways Hogan's you know guilty by association with Eric Bishoff and that animosity that those two have had that you know kind of Bishoff have had but yeah to not even like mention it outside of a. 156 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:27,000 The lib I don't know if I'm saying the lib it just lack a daisicle response and really even then I think they felt like they were pressured into saying something about it because they were getting blowback from not acknowledging it like how do you as a wrestling like rock a city like we are so far down the food chain in. 157 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:56,000 The latter professional wrestling our owner put something out i've seen other smaller independent companies medium sized independent companies put stuff out basically just acknowledging the contribution that he had and for them to ignore it and then when they do something i mean it's a 15 second sound bite like that's it like that was kind of once again i understand if you're personally against Terry Balea but it's hard to ignore it. 158 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,000 It's not a lot of things like that. 159 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:58,000 It's not a lot of things like that. 160 00:18:58,000 --> 00:18:59,000 It's not a lot of things like that. 161 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,000 It's not a lot of things like that. 162 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,000 It's not a lot of things like that. 163 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:02,000 It's not a lot of things like that. 164 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:03,000 It's not a lot of things like that. 165 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:04,000 It's not a lot of things like that. 166 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:05,000 It's not a lot of things like that. 167 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,000 It's not a lot of things like that. 168 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,000 It's not a lot of things like that. 169 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:08,000 It's not a lot of things like that. 170 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,000 It's not a lot of things like that. 171 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,000 It's not a lot of things like that. 172 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:11,000 It's not a lot of things like that. 173 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:12,000 It's not a lot of things like that. 174 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:13,000 It's not a lot of things like that. 175 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:14,000 It's not a lot of things like that. 176 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:27,000 It's not a lot of things like that. 177 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:28,000 It's not a lot of things like that. 178 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:29,000 It's not a lot of things like that. 179 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,000 It's not a lot of things like that. 180 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,000 It's not a lot of things like that. 181 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,000 It's not a lot of things like that. 182 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:33,000 It's not a lot of things like that. 183 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:34,000 It's not a lot of things like that. 184 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:35,000 It's not a lot of things like that. 185 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:36,000 It's not a lot of things like that. 186 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:37,000 It's not a lot of things like that. 187 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:38,000 It's not a lot of things like that. 188 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:39,000 It's not a lot of things like that. 189 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:40,000 It's not a lot of things like that. 190 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:41,000 It's not a lot of things like that. 191 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,000 It's not a lot of things like that. 192 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:43,000 It's not a lot of things like that. 193 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:49,000 Holkogu should get credit for what he contributed to the business by everybody across the board in the business. 194 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:50,000 100%. 195 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:50,000 100%. 196 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:50,000 100%. 197 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:51,000 100%. 198 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,000 I couldn't agree more, Dr. Trey. 199 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:53,000 I couldn't agree more, Dr. Trey. 200 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:53,000 I couldn't agree more, Dr. Trey. 201 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:53,000 I couldn't agree more, Dr. Trey. 202 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:54,000 I couldn't agree more, Dr. Trey. 203 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:55,000 I couldn't agree more, Dr. Trey. 204 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:56,000 I couldn't agree more, Dr. Trey. 205 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:56,000 I couldn't agree more, Dr. Trey. 206 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,000 I couldn't agree more, Dr. Trey. 207 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:58,000 I couldn't agree more, Dr. Trey. 208 00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:59,000 I couldn't agree more, Dr. Trey. 209 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:00,000 I couldn't agree more, Dr. Trey. 210 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,000 I couldn't agree more, Dr. Trey. 211 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:16,000 I couldn't agree more, Dr. Trey. 212 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,000 I couldn't agree more, Dr. Trey. 213 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,000 I couldn't agree more, Dr. Trey. 214 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,000 I couldn't agree more, Dr. 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--> 00:21:26,000 I'm trying. 260 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:37,000 I don't know if there has been a more polarizing celebrity in really recent memory of anybody like Hulk Hogan, 261 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:43,000 where he met so much to his industry, but the personal side, you know, 262 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:49,000 like ever since he left the protection of WWE in WCW. 263 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:54,000 Anytime he was outside of their umbrellas, his PR stuff was just not great. 264 00:21:54,000 --> 00:22:02,000 And it does make you wonder like how much was protected by WFW, WCW, TNA over those years, 265 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:11,000 because health, for all we know, it may have been worse, but when you look at like where wrestling was before 1984, 266 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:20,000 like, and then wear it in it up, you know, 40 years later, a large part of that is on the back of Hulk Hogan, 267 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:24,000 and then later on Stone Cold Steve Austin, later on John Cena. 268 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:31,000 Feel free to chime in at SRTU podcast on X. Feel free to share your thoughts here on the passing of Hulk Hogan, 269 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,000 or you could help us out. 270 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:37,000 Join in the conversation over at facebook.com/serialthoshell. 271 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:41,000 Switching gears here, Dr. Trey. 272 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:45,000 Obviously spending a lot of time on the Hogan story again this week. 273 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:54,000 But today, or excuse me, yesterday at the July 30th, it was announced or put out there that it had been officially three years, 274 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:58,000 since Triple H was running WWE Creative. 275 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,000 Look back at these last three years, Dr. Trey. 276 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,000 What's changed? What hasn't? 277 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:07,000 Do you think WWE is in a better spot now than it was three years ago when it was under Vince McMahon's reign? 278 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:14,000 Thoughts as we look at three years now of Triple H running WWE Creative, which is an absolutely insane thing, though. 279 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:21,000 I would say as a wrestling product, it's in better shape now that it was three years ago. 280 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:27,000 Now, I don't know the inner workings of now being a corporation or a business owned by another corporation. 281 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:35,000 I'm seeing people complaining about vacation days and PTOs and cup bags here and there and so that. 282 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,000 That's outside of my window. 283 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:43,000 But from you and I have been doing this show for a very, very, very long time. 284 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:54,000 And there were such dramatic dips in WWE under Vince McMahon that you and I questioned our fandom and whether or not we could keep watching. 285 00:23:54,000 --> 00:24:01,000 The last three years, I don't think you and I have really said like there's been times where it was maybe mediocre. 286 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:10,000 But it hasn't been bad the last three years and you look at the cycle of, hey guys are getting more time off. 287 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:18,000 They're kind of cycling guys in and out like they may have a huge storyline that runs for a few months and then they're off TV for months. 288 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:27,000 So they can kind of rest up and recuperate. We're seeing the doors opening up to all these other promotions that people can work with. 289 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,000 I mean, did like they just announced GCW is going to have the war raiders at it. 290 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:38,000 Did you ever think like up until last year a show like GCW could get WWE talent booked on their show. 291 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:44,000 We saw an Italian NWA. We've seen them purchasing AAA and now all the cross over the AAA. 292 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:49,000 We're seeing things across the board that would have never been done before. 293 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:55,000 The Netflix deal has been huge like all these things that have kind of come up in the last three years. 294 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:59,000 A lot of this is stuff that we never thought we would see and now it's staring at the face. 295 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:06,000 In a lot of ways, I don't know, I almost feel like at times we take WWE for granted. 296 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:16,000 Like they're always supposed to be good and when they're not we flail and rail against the machine and when they're really good most people is like, yeah, it's pretty good right now. 297 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:25,000 Like I don't get it but like the last three years, arguably been the best three years since the attitude era for WWE as a whole. 298 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:34,000 As far as like content, product and just mass appeal. I think this has been the best three years they've had in quite a long time. 299 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:41,000 Yeah, this weekend they're going to be filling up a stadium which hosted a couple of WrestleMania's for two nights for Summer Slam. 300 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:45,000 It's not even WrestleMania, it's Summer Slam and that's been pretty constant. 301 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,000 I mean, they're putting elimination chamber in this guy, Donald Toronto. 302 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:53,000 So, business is really good and I think a lot of that is due to triple H's creative. 303 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:57,000 It's the type of wrestling that I want to see on my television. 304 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:13,000 Vitsik Man's creative was very predictable. As a long time fan I kind of figured out how WWE was booking their shows just by, you know, them not changing and me watching for a long time. 305 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:20,000 I don't feel that way with triple H. There are certainly things that are predictable and there's a lot of things that are not predictable. 306 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:25,000 There are things that I really like pushing people like Gunther and Neo Sky. 307 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:32,000 And there's things that I'm not the biggest fan of but I understand that that is part of the people that are watching at home as well. 308 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,000 And like El Grand Amaricano is one of those instances. 309 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:40,000 It's like, it's not my cup of tea but they're kind of winning me over by the way that they're booking it. 310 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:52,000 We talked about if WWE was going to fend off AEW and the worst thing to happen, AEW was triple H getting the books from Vitsik Man because we enjoyed triple H's NXT so much. 311 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:58,000 That happened and AEW has really struggled since triple H took over the books. That's pretty clear. 312 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:07,000 And I think a lot of that is because people are putting their viewership in WWE that's where they're investing their time when it comes to professional wrestling promotion. 313 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:18,000 And that's what they would prefer to watch than AEW on a weekly basis which I think AEW was really pushing WWE to be better and were successful in doing that. 314 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:28,000 Heading into triple H taking over creative. I think if Vince was still there Austin Theory would have been in WWE Champion maybe multiple times by now. 315 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:35,000 Gunther, I think may not even be with the company. Eoski may not be with the company. Remember Eos was off a television. 316 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:46,000 She came back at like that SummerSlam 2022, like was the first one that was kind of the launch point for triple H's creative and she came back into damage control and there was a lot of reports other that she was going to disappear. 317 00:27:46,000 --> 00:28:06,000 Prior to that Gunther was wearing a red P Coke and was like beating the crap out of Ludwig Kaiser. And they were doing that weird thing where it was like Matt can I have your attention please and Kaiser would do this big intro and Gunther was in our continental champion at the time but I don't think he would have been a focal point as much as he is now. 318 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:14,000 I don't think CM Punk would be in WWE if Vince McMahon was still there even had he left AEW. 319 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:24,000 Yeah there's a lot of things Dr. Trey. I don't think J.U. So would have gotten the opportunity to run as World Champion. And yeah it's just it's for the better. 320 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:36,000 And this is the type of wrestling that I like and a lot's changed. I mean it's better organized. It's well thought out. It doesn't insult my intelligence. 321 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:50,000 It is at the same old shit that I've watched for 30 years like they do they have misses under triple H absolutely but they have way more hits than misses which prior to that when Vince was running the books they had way more misses than hits. 322 00:28:50,000 --> 00:29:05,000 So yeah it's it's been great and it's amazing that it's only been three years Dr. Trey so it's it's my type of WWE that I'm watching. Of course there's only could be tweaks and stuff like that but I liked the direction of the company now that it was three years ago. 323 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:12,000 I mean not too much to think about this Bronson Reed who's now in the main event picture was released under Vince. 324 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:34,000 LA Knight was going to be made a manager under Vince and these are guys now that are either main events or top merch sellers you know it's like yeah there are people that you know Vince obviously would hit on maybe a little differently than triple H but you know having that background of being a wrestler for so many years. 325 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:49,000 We saw with Dusty we see other people like having that ability to be a wrestler but then also be able to step back and go what has made me successful and how can I translate that and find it and other people is one of his strong says and like you know like we're like I was 326 00:29:49,000 --> 00:30:03,000 going to be a little bit more like you know the fact that WWE is allowing their talent to go into other places is something Vince would have never signed off on you know like you know we've been like Adam Copeland events 327 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:11,000 was still around you know cope might have stayed but punk wouldn't have come back to the company you know like there are definitely some hits and 328 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:29,000 but for the most part like I can't think of anybody that triple H is really put a rocket ship to like I use it the now you earlier that has misfired like everybody he's kind of put that you know put that kind of attention on has succeeded for the most part so 329 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:43,000 maybe the only miss so far might be the why is six battle I think that's more injury issues that it is anything else but for the most part like anybody he's going to put that little you know might 330 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:56,000 us touch on has has turned the goal. Have you had an opportunity to watch the WWE unreal on Netflix I have not I have not as well but dear God the amount of feedback I have gotten from independent 331 00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:09,000 and I think it's been ridiculous yeah I can't wait to watch it I hope to watch it either tonight or tomorrow I did I was I did I did watch a the clip of the Jacob Fattu Braun Strowman 332 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:31,000 definitely LaShawn stuff like seeing the interworkings of producing going to the referee and stuff like that mainly because we just had definitely LaShawn came to rocket city to support her husband when he was up here so it's kind of nice to see her in the building hanging out playing on her phone the entire time but then to see her in a real 333 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:48,000 how the interworkings of that go that part was pretty cool which makes me want to see down watch the rest of it so there was a pretty big part of the show where on the background and we've talked about this in the past but it was a little bit more clear so I don't believe this was the card that was originally discussed in a trailer for unreal. 334 00:31:48,000 --> 00:32:17,000 This was the original WrestleMania 41 card it was revealed on WWE unreal versus what we actually got and what could have been I'm going to go through this card doctor try and tell me if you prefer the match that is being shown here on real as a potential early match for WrestleMania 41 or if you like the one that we ended up getting the first one is easy because we actually ended up getting it I think it's one of the only matches that we actually got. 335 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:27,000 Cody Rhodes versus John Cena for the end of the title that was one that we saw at WrestleMania 41 Roman Reigns versus Seth Rollins. 336 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:34,000 >> And we just got punk added to the mix I like the one we got because we got the Paul Aiman payoff with it. 337 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:40,000 >> Gunther versus CM Punk for the World title which will actually get at Summer slam this weekend. 338 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:47,000 >> Yeah, I prefer punk in the triple threat more than maybe punk and Gunther WrestleMania. 339 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,000 >> Rearripely versus Bianca Belair for the women's World title. 340 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:55,000 >> And instead we got what was it we got Bianca. 341 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,000 >> Rio Eo. 342 00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:09,000 >> Yeah, I still think that one's hard for me because if you remember going back to our WrestleMania season I said the money match was Bianca and Rhea because those are probably the two biggest stars they had. 343 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:18,000 I would say now with the ascension of Eo and what she's done since then I prefer what we got. 344 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,000 >> That's pretty big because you and I were debating that. 345 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:24,000 I was like I think Eo should be in the match and you didn't feel that way right now. 346 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:32,000 >> Yeah it was a little bit because to me they've been teasing Bianca Rhea WrestleMania for like three years. 347 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:39,000 We just have still yet to really get that one-on-one pay off match and it just reminds me of never getting Becky and Ronda. 348 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,000 >> Mm-hm. 349 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,000 >> You know until it's too late. 350 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,000 >> Bad Bunny versus Dominic Mysterio. 351 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:49,000 >> No I think I'm okay with what we got. 352 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:54,000 Like I like bad Bunny but yeah I think I'm okay with what we got instead. 353 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,000 Like Dom getting the IC title was a really good pay off. 354 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:03,000 >> I'm interested to hear your thoughts on this one. Why it's six versus judgment day. 355 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:07,000 >> Well we didn't get why it's six at all WrestleMania. 356 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,000 >> No. >> Hope because I think Uncle had he was out with injury right? 357 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:20,000 >> Yeah and judgment day, Dom and Finn were in the four-way, JD was out in Carlito was eating apples and staring at Liv. 358 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:30,000 I think I probably would have preferred Y-6 in judgment day because that's where I thought we were going to get to after final testament in Y-6. 359 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:39,000 And then Uncle howdy got hurt we didn't get it but if that would have been, if you had done Finn, JD and Carlito against three of the Y-6 that would have been fun. 360 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:47,000 Because I just picture like the judgment days, clubhouse, having glitches and weird things happening and stuff like that. 361 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:51,000 And then Carlito's face getting scared by Nikki Cross would have been great as well. 362 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:58,000 >> This match was probably before the injury but Jade Cardinal versus Nia Jackson for the women's title. 363 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:06,000 >> No I'm fine with what we didn't like no like that, nothing about that appeals to me. 364 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:13,000 >> This one is appealing to me, Becky and Charlotte taking on Oscar and Kyrie for the tag titles. 365 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:21,000 >> That would have been great. We got what Becky and Lyra for the tag belts. 366 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:28,000 >> With the living in the middle of the game. >> Yeah, no that would have been really fun. I would have been on board for that one. 367 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:32,000 >> Randy Orn versus Kevin Owens we were supposed to get that arrested maybe 41 so that was on there. 368 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:37,000 >> Interesting one here. >> But we got Joe Hendry because of the injury. 369 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:44,000 >> Randy Orn versus Joe Hendries what we got. Drew McAttire versus Brian Breaker. Stone Cold Steve Austin to be the special guest referee. 370 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:50,000 >> I'm trying to remember so we had who did Brian face the WrestleMania? 371 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:58,000 >> Brian was in the fatal four way for the tag titles and a winner tick on Damien Priest in the Sin City Street fight. 372 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:08,000 >> If you gave me that match with Stone Cold as the referee and Drew Bitching and Stone Cold in the stunner on it, that would have been great too. 373 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,000 >> I probably leaned that one. 374 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:15,000 >> Yeah, this wouldn't have been great. I'd be interested to know who was supposed to be the baby face then. 375 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:20,000 >> Well, Brian was doing that tweener gimmick one week. >> That's true. 376 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:28,000 >> Yeah, so it would have been like, that would have been one of those ones with the fans were just cheering the hard hits and then cheer the stunner post match. 377 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:34,000 >> That would have been a fun match man, McAttire and Breaker. That sucks that we didn't get it. 378 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:41,000 We were supposed to get this in a way. Ray Mysterio with Travis Scott versus Chad Gable at WrestleMania 41. 379 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:50,000 It was booked as Ray Mysterio versus Elgaron de Americano who looks exactly like Chad Gable back then. 380 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:56,000 Instead Ray got hurt the night before the Friday's SmackDown and he was replaced by Ray Phoenix. 381 00:36:56,000 --> 00:37:00,000 Thoughts though, Mysterio and with Travis Scott versus Chad Gable. 382 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:07,000 >> That would have been cool if they had put like Kid Rock with Chad Gable? 383 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:12,000 Kid Rock, okay. >> I'm just saying, you got to counter the rap artist with-- >> Right, right. 384 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:18,000 >> I'm trying to think of somebody who's kind of like very, very conservative musician. 385 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:25,000 >> Jellyable. >> Like, I was like, my first two was Toby Keith and I'm like, okay, well, no, he passed away. >> Right, Pete. 386 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:29,000 >> Ted Nugent, I don't know if he passed away or not, I can't remember. 387 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:36,000 >> I was going to need someone. >> But you would need somebody to kind of be on that line of, 388 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:42,000 you know, red versus blue because obviously Travis Scott, you know, probably a little more on the blue side. 389 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:47,000 But just something, kind of, if you had done Chad Gable with Jelly Roll and Ray Mysterio, 390 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,000 but I don't think Jelly Roll, Jelly Roll is so beloved, I don't think he could be the bad guy. 391 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:54,000 >> No. >> You just need somebody, you would need a musician to kind of lead into the, 392 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,000 the heel persona a little bit with Chad Gable. 393 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,000 >> But they were really trying to push Travis Scott, man. 394 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,000 I don't-- >> Oh, man. 395 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,000 >> This is the part where I'm old. 396 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:08,000 Like I've listened to some of his songs, I like some of his songs, but I'm like, I don't get it. 397 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:12,000 It does not translate with me and I'm officially old at 39 years old. 398 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,000 >> Did we get the 24th? 399 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,000 Did we get the hardcore title back from Travis Scott? 400 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,000 >> I hope so, because I hear there's a fallen out there. 401 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:23,000 >> These two got caught-- we got called the repo man in to go get it. 402 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:27,000 >> Yeah, you got to get Barry Darso to help you out. 403 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:35,000 >> This is an interesting one, J. U. So, versus Damien Priest, versus Sammy, versus Shemus, versus Bronson, 404 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,000 Reed, versus Ludwig, I see title ladder match. 405 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,000 This would have been pretty bad ass, Dr. Trey. 406 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:47,000 >> I mean, you throw J, Ludwig, Sammy in there, you get a tsunami off the ladder, through a ladder, 407 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:53,000 like, but Bronson obviously was out with the leg injury at the time, so that kind of curtailed that, 408 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,000 but yeah, like those six guys. 409 00:38:55,000 --> 00:39:00,000 And that's one of those matches, we always talk about, they usually have one super big ladder match 410 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:04,000 at either WrestleMania, and we're getting one in SummerSlam, but they typically have 411 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:09,000 that one really, really big ladder match is just crazy over the top. 412 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:13,000 I would have been cool if that one of Shemus came out on top. 413 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,000 >> Well, remember we were kind of pushing that, like December January time, 414 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,000 because it was the one title that he was missing. 415 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,000 >> Yeah. 416 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,000 >> Yeah, I would have liked to see Shemus got that moment. 417 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:26,000 Which now is interesting, because you're looking at this icy title ladder match, 418 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:31,000 so Brons-Breakter wasn't Intercontinental Champion going into this. 419 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:35,000 >> So who were they projecting to be the icy Champion at the time? 420 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,000 >> I think it was going to be Jey Uso. 421 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:42,000 >> Yeah, because you guys remember, like, at this point, when they're projecting this card, there's no Penta. 422 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:46,000 And I think Penta may have changed some of some of the equations in this as well, 423 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:51,000 because he got super over so fast that they kind of had to adjust the show 424 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,000 to kind of spin it out a little bit. 425 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,000 So, yeah, that would have been really fun match. 426 00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:01,000 And also then Jey would have had a longer run with the icy title than what he got, 427 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:06,000 which then wouldn't have made people so crazy about him getting the multiple world title shots. 428 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:10,000 >> So you would have preferred him going into Mania as the icy Champion 429 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,000 rather than coming out of Mania as the world Champion? 430 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:18,000 >> Yeah, probably, because I still, as much as I love Jey Uso, 431 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:22,000 I don't know how sold I am on that world title run. 432 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,000 >> Yeah, no, it was odd, right? 433 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:28,000 I mean, maybe we'll learn a little bit more about it during the Unreal series that we haven't watched yet, 434 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,000 because I heard that was something that they cover. 435 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:36,000 It was odd because the planning entire time was for Gunther to still get the title back to take on Goldberg in July. 436 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,000 So we could break that down another day. 437 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,000 The last match here, US title ladder match, Dr. Trey. 438 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:45,000 LA Knight, I assume, is the US Champion defending its Jimmy Uso on Draughtey, 439 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:51,000 Solusikoa, Santos Escobar, Carmelo Hayes, and Shinsuke Nakamura. 440 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:57,000 >> Once again, Jacob Fattu, gets thrown into the mix because of how hot he got. 441 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,000 I think we have discussed that one as well. 442 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:05,000 Like on our predictions card, like, you know, early in, like, it felt like the mid card tiles were wide open, 443 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,000 and you could go multitude of different directions. 444 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:12,000 I think I'm better off with what we got because we got the rise of Jacob Fattu out of it. 445 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,000 I mean, we haven't seen Shinsuke really since he lost the US title. 446 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:16,000 >> I know, and I hate it, man. 447 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,000 >> I hate to start stop for Shinsuke. He's so stil- 448 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,000 >> Yeah. 449 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,000 >> And I love the samurai gimmick. 450 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,000 >> I have actually really enjoyed it. 451 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:27,000 >> So it is weird to see the changes in that, 452 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,000 but like, I was fine with LA Knight and Jacob Fattu, 453 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:33,000 because I thought they had a really damn good match, and it got Jacob Fattu even more over. 454 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:38,000 >> So a couple of people that were missing, you mentioned Jacob Fattu. 455 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,000 Live Morgan, is it on this list? 456 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,000 >> Who do they say Becky and- >> Eosky? 457 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:47,000 >> Yeah, Eosky. They were doing Oscar and Kyrie, so yeah, that's right. 458 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:55,000 >> Eosky, Liv, Bailey, who ended up missing the show anyway. Tiffany Stratton, isn't on this card? 459 00:41:55,000 --> 00:42:02,000 >> Which means they had no intention of her winning money in the bank when she actually won money in the bank when they're pre-planning this out. 460 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:06,000 >> It's odd, right. The thing that goes into it where it's just like very fluid at all times. 461 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,000 >> Damien, you know- >> And he's on here. 462 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,000 >> But no, AJ Styles? 463 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:14,000 >> No, AJ, did I- I don't see Logan Paul? 464 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:18,000 >> Yeah. >> Maybe Logan wasn't confirmed for Mania, that's odd. 465 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:26,000 >> Yeah, I mean, some of those guys that are- it's weird because like, you know, a couple of guys that got injured, 466 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:31,000 like, I don't know, like, Bronson got injured at Survivor Series, so like, how early were they planning that- 467 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,000 they must have been planning this card before Survivor Series? 468 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,000 >> This is definitely because Jade's on there, right? 469 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,000 >> Yeah, so yeah, it's kind of like, okay. 470 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:44,000 I mean, in this- in vent, and I still think Triple H, Bruce Pritchard, those guys, 471 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,000 still kind of model it the same way as they did in events. 472 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:53,000 Vents, once WrestleMania ended, the next day or within a week already has next year's WrestleMania card- 473 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,000 >> Kind of in place. 474 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,000 >> Kind of in place, and you start working towards getting to that. 475 00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,000 So I still think they do the same principle. 476 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:07,000 They may not do it a year out, they may do it six months out because it's a little easier to kind of develop two storylines, 477 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:12,000 maybe three to get to Mania as opposed to trying to plan out a whole year to get to Mania 478 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:18,000 because injuries, new hires, some guy gets hot, some guy cools off, 479 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,000 it's really hard to kind of keep that going for an entire year. 480 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,000 But yeah, like, seeing certain names on the list kind of tells you like, 481 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:28,000 "Oh yeah, Bronson Reed was higher up on their list, but then he got hurt." 482 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:32,000 Or, you know, Liv may have been hurt when they planned this out, 483 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,000 and they didn't know when she was gonna get back. 484 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,000 >> I think she was champion at this point in November. 485 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,000 >> So then not putting her on the card is kind of weird. 486 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:45,000 >> I think the WrestleMania 41 card we ended up getting. 487 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:49,000 >> Yeah, I would say if you looked up and down what we just talked about, 488 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:54,000 I would say what we got, it'd be better than the one they kind of impenciled, 489 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:58,000 but even some of the stuff in pencil, we still had variants of it. 490 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:05,000 So it wasn't like dramatic shifts. It was, okay, J.U. So super hot right now. 491 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:09,000 If we haven't went in Mania, that's the feel-good moment that we all love, 492 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:15,000 especially if we're going John as a heel, you know, then J.U. So winning here is really good. 493 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:20,000 And then we can slide punk into the stuff with Roman and Seth because they all have history together. 494 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:27,000 Like, I like what we got, but there's still, you can still see the variants there. 495 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:32,000 Like, it still worked out in a lot of ways similar with that plan, but maybe not exact. 496 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:37,000 >> I would have liked to see Gunther and CM Punk at Mania, but that punk reigns Rollins matches 497 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:41,000 is one of the best matches of the year. Rea versus Bianca would like to see that. 498 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:45,000 But again, Rea Bianca and EO from Mania, especially, was one of the best matches of the year. 499 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:50,000 Y-6 versus Judgment Day would have been cool. And Becky and Charlotte versus Oscar and Kai. 500 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:55,000 Rea would have been cool. And Drew McAterver, Braun Breaker would have been cool from the rumored matches 501 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:59,000 that was showcased during the show Unreal that is now up on Netflix. 502 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:05,000 So hopefully by next week, Dr. Trey, when I'll be able to watch all a couple of the episodes, 503 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:12,000 I know all five are up on Netflix right now. So feel free to chime in with any of your thoughts on XAT, SRTU podcasts. 504 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:16,000 And with that being said, Dr. Trey, let's get into WWE Summer's Land preview predictions. 505 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:23,000 It comes to us live this Saturday and Sunday for MetLife Stadium in East Rutherford, New Jersey, home of WrestleMania 29 and WrestleMania 35, 506 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:31,000 which WrestleMania 35 went on and on and on and on until all in. Texas took place earlier this month. 507 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:36,000 Let's look at night one, Saturday, Dr. Trey. You've got Sami Zayn taking on carrying Cross. 508 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:43,000 I'm going to go with carrying Cross in this one because Sami has been getting the better of carrying Cross thus far. 509 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:50,000 Yeah, I mean, Sami got, or do I know what, carrying got the win? No, Sami got the win at the paper view, the last one. 510 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:56,000 So I'm going to take carry in in this one as well. I just think I feel like they have something brewing with him. 511 00:45:56,000 --> 00:46:02,000 Like the fans are really into him, everything else. You've got to kind of see where this can go. 512 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,000 So I'm going to take carrying Cross as well. 513 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,000 So there you go, both of us taking carrying Cross in this one. 514 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:14,000 Next match is the Judgment Day, Roxanne Perez and Raquel Rodriguez, defending the Women's Tag Team Championship, 515 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:20,000 again, Charlotte Flair and Alexa Bliss. This is a tough one to call Dr. Trey. Your thoughts on this one. 516 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:28,000 Yeah, I think I'm going to take Alexa and Charlotte because once again, it kind of feels like there's something there that might lead to something bigger. 517 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,000 I just don't know if you pulled the trigger this week because the crazy thing is Jeff. 518 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:37,000 Charlotte's been getting kind of cheered in this whole thing and that was the whole precipice leading in the WrestleMania. 519 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:44,000 So maybe it was trying to get Charlotte over the baby as a baby face. Maybe Alexa helps Charlotte go over the baby face. They win the tag belts. 520 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:51,000 And then one of the two flips and goes psycho on the other one down the line heading into mania season or survivor series season. 521 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,000 So I'm going to take Alexa and Charlotte getting the win. 522 00:46:53,000 --> 00:47:06,000 Yeah, these are both really good storylines right now, which just makes it very hard to tell where it's going to go because Roxanne has been a wedge in the Judgment Day with Live Out Now trying to integrate herself in there, 523 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:14,000 tagging with Raquel, trying to steal, Dom, and then you've got the very organic, awesome build of Charlotte Flare and Alexa Bliss. 524 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,000 You know, you point out people are starting to cheer on Charlotte Flare. 525 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:21,000 I think a lot of that has to do with their very open and honest athletic interview. 526 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:28,000 I think it was the athletic or player's tribune she did where she just kind of talked about her real life trials and tribulations. 527 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:32,000 And that's what's relatable. The problem with Charlotte all those the all these years. She wasn't relatable. 528 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:46,000 That article comes out. She's relatable. People like her. They're starting to cheer on and I think this Charlotte and Alexa Bliss storyline has been really good with it said to really good storylines that will continue forward post summer slam, which one makes the most sense to walk out with the titles. 529 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:50,000 Charlotte Flare and Alexa Bliss. You keep this thing going. You had the titles in there. 530 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:56,000 And I liked Dr. Trey. I'm taking the we're not friends tag team of Charlotte Flare and Alexa Bliss. 531 00:47:56,000 --> 00:48:05,000 Next match here is Randy Orton and Jelly Roll taking on Drew McAter and Logan Paul. Part of me wants to pick Drew McAter and Logan Paul in this one. 532 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:09,000 Dr. Trey, but I think the celebrity gets the victory is Randy Orton and Jelly Roll win. 533 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:19,000 Yeah, I'm looking at like I thought Logan's interview or Logan's promo the last because really good where he was like, you know, me and Drew are two of the best. 534 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:33,000 Randy's on the best and then there's you. I really like that way that played out. So I mean, I really want to pick Drew Logan, but I'm going to take Randy Orton and Jelly Roll just for the celebrity pop for Jelly Roll probably picking up the pit. 535 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:43,000 Do you think Jelly Roll surprises us with his performance that were where it is out there that he's been working pretty hard at the WWE PC trading with Kevin Owens, Jacob Fattu, Undertaker, Michelle McCool. 536 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:52,000 And then the stands for Tuesday nights NXT episode does he impress us like a bad bunny and Logan Paul have in their first matches in WWE? 537 00:48:52,000 --> 00:49:08,000 Do I think he's on those guys's level? No, because he's a big dude. He's a heavy said dude. And then because of how much his body has changed in the last year, it takes a little while to get used to your new size. 538 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:25,000 I think he will be okay. So if your expectation is he's going to suck, I think he beats that expectation. But if you think he's going to be bad bunny or Logan Paul, I think is below that. So I think he'll be passable, but he's not on the level of bad bunny and Logan Paul. 539 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:33,000 I agree with you. I think some of the stuff that we've seen in the ring so far, he is not on the athletic level is the other two guys that we just mentioned. 540 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:40,000 Next up is Tiffany Stratt and defend any WWE Women's Championship against Jade Cardgill, Dr. Trey, who do you like in this one? 541 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:51,000 This one's hard. I'm really torn on this one because with Naomi going to Raw, this kind of threw my expectations and my plans into it, Izzy. 542 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:58,000 I am going to take Jade getting the win though. So I'll take Jade defeating Tiffany for the women's title. 543 00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:10,000 Yeah, I think WWE wants to put the championship on. I feel like they think it's time to start building her up as a major player in the company. So I like Dr. Trey. I'm taking Jade Cardgill to win the WWE Women's Championship. 544 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:19,000 Next match is Roman Reigns and J.U. So versus Braun Breaker and Bronson Reed. Winter gets Roman Reigns' shoes from Raw. That close up. 545 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:25,000 I'm sorry, what? No, I'm just kidding. Do you not see Bronson Reed take Roman Reigns' shoes at the end of Raw? 546 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:37,000 No, because I missed the very end of Raw because we had air conditioning calamities, so everything got shit to the last 20 minutes of Raw. 547 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:43,000 But I thought that sounds like if Vince came back, that would be a legitimate storyline. 548 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:50,000 For Roman Reigns' sneakers that Bronson Reed had stole, I'm going to take Roman Reigns and J.U. So on this one not to try. Who do you like? 549 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:57,000 Yeah, it's hard picking against Roman. I mean the guys really only lost two, like only been on the losing side really twice in the last like four years. 550 00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:08,000 So yeah, I'm taking Roman and J also because Bronson's, RBZB Brons trying to assert himself as the leader of this faction. 551 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:16,000 And we still don't know how long Seth is out for. By the way, I know they keep calling him Braun, but why do they just call him the Bronies? 552 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:21,000 We got, we got Bronny James, why don't you just call him the Bronies? Maybe it's copyrighted, who knows? 553 00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:22,000 That's true. Who knows? 554 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:29,000 Next match here is Gunther defending the World of the Way Championship against CM Punk, Dr. Trey, who leaves his World Champion. 555 00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:38,000 This one's tricky because like, can you have CM Punk lose title matches on back-to-back PLEs? 556 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:43,000 Like that's part, I mean at some point he's got to get the win. 557 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:51,000 I'm gonna take Punk just because I think the heel side is coming up stronger than the baby face side as far as challengers. 558 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:57,000 So I think I'm gonna take Punk stealing the, stealing a victory from Gunther in that summer slam. 559 00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:07,000 I like you I'm taking CM Punk to defeat Gunther and become the World of the Way Champion. However, I think Seth Rollins comes out and cashes in and walks out of Summer Slam as World Champion. 560 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:18,000 That was my call a few weeks ago and then I was like, so I was crazy for that because I tried it at Summer, or we had Saturday Night's Main event and it didn't come to fruition. 561 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:23,000 And I was like, well it makes sense because the whole point is Seth does not want CM Punk being World Champion. 562 00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:30,000 So I think he has to cash in on Punk much like Punk cashed in on, or pre-s cashed in on Mac and Trey. 563 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:35,000 So yeah, I'm with you. I think that's how it plays out. I think Seth walks out of Summer Slam as World Champion. 564 00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:50,000 Then let's get to Night 2 here. I am stoked for this one. Dr. Trey, 6-Pak TLC, tables, labs and chairs match for the WWE Tag Team Championship, the Y-6 defending against Andrade Phoenix, DIY, Fraxie and Motor City Machine Guns and the Street Profits. 565 00:52:50,000 --> 00:53:02,000 Outside of the women's Intercontinental Championship Division between Becky Lyra and Bailey, the SmackDown Tag Team Division has been one of my favorite things to watch on WWE Television over the last year. 566 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:08,000 In the last six months, it's been fantastic and they're getting a really good opportunity to showcase. And I think they're going to steal the show. 567 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:13,000 With that said, I'm going to take the Y-6 retaining and walking down as WWE Tag Team Champions. 568 00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:17,000 Can you remember a time we had 12 guys in a TLC match? 569 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:18,000 How many? 570 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,000 Is it, is there six Tag teams, right? 571 00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:21,000 Yes, six. 572 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:25,000 So there's 12 people in a TLC match. 573 00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:36,000 Like that's just legit and then you got you got a factor in Eric Rowan's out there Uncle Howdy's out there Nikki Cross is out there Candace Loray will be out there like. 574 00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:45,000 That's like 18, it's like 15 people, 18 people involved in this thing. So it is going to be it's going to be the most fun train wreck I have ever seen. 575 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:56,000 I fully expect the Y-6 to retain because I think somebody will climb the ladder, they'll cut the lights out and then you'll see either Joe Gase your Dex or Louis the top of ladder taking the belts down. 576 00:53:56,000 --> 00:54:00,000 It's going to be weird if they cut the lights out in a stadium with their sunlight though, Dr. Try. 577 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:05,000 But maybe by the time that match comes on, it's dark outside Jeff. 578 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,000 Well, I guess anything could happen though, Dr. Try, right? 579 00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:14,000 It is the Y-6. It is a daylight stadium for the most part, probably like the first two and a half hours of the show. 580 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:18,000 But maybe they have the power to turn off the lights in New Jersey, Dr. Try. 581 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:23,000 I mean, it's New Jersey, Jeff. I mean, anything, I mean, we still we still have Jimmy Hoffa. 582 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,000 True. So anything that happened. 583 00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:36,000 Next match here is Becky Lynch defending the women's Intercontinental Championship against the Lyre Valcuri in a no disqualification, no count out last chance match for the Intercontinental Championship. 584 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:43,000 If Becky wins, Valcuri can no longer challenge for the title as long as Lynch is the champion. Dr. Try, who do you like in this one? 585 00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:49,000 I'm going with Lyre. I mean, we just had this, we just had the simulation Becky wants. I'm gonna take Lyre. 586 00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:54,000 Maybe with the help of Bailey to get the wind to get the belts off of Becky. 587 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:58,000 It is weird to have Becky Lynch in your mid card division. 588 00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:09,000 And maybe this is their way of getting Becky moved up to, you know, get in there with Rhea and Naomi and EO and kind of solidify that main event division with four people up there. 589 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:13,000 So I'm gonna take Lyre getting the win and getting the Intercontinental title. 590 00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:18,000 I wanted to pick Lyre based on the stipulation as well, but I'm gonna take Becky Lynch. 591 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:25,000 That is all stemming from Bailey's backstage interview where she was like, I miss WrestleMania, I miss Summer Slam. 592 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:33,000 I think Bailey cost Lyre the match, helps Becky retain and then Lyre cannot challenge Becky for a while while she holds onto the championship. 593 00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:38,000 It's like Rhea, we ever see that stipulation take place. So I think there's a little bit more storyline involved here. 594 00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:42,000 So I'm going to take Becky Lynch to retain. 595 00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:49,000 Next match here is Solisikoa defending the WWE United States championship in a steel cage match versus Jacob Fattu. 596 00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:55,000 First off, I love that a steel cage match is taking place at Summer Slam because it reminds me of a Triple H and mankind. 597 00:55:55,000 --> 00:56:00,000 I think Summer Slam 96, Brett and Owen Summer Slam 1994. 598 00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:05,000 Give me the blue bar steel cage, Dr. Trey. Please, I am begging you, not the chain link one. 599 00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:11,000 With that said, I'm gonna take Jacob Fattu to win the United States Championship on Sunday. 600 00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:19,000 Yeah, this one, I want to say it's tricky because Solo just got the belt like a month ago. 601 00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:25,000 And you're trying to build up the MFTs and maybe you want to spin Jacob off into something bigger. 602 00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:39,000 I think I'm gonna take Solo to retain because I feel like he's just a good solid mid-card heel champion where Jacob I feel like has much more potential in the short term, maybe not long term. 603 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:42,000 I think both these guys can be main eventers down the line. 604 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:51,000 I just think Solo just because I think you got the whole MFTs that could prevent Jacob from winning because they could get involved because there's no DQ in this match. 605 00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:56,000 So I'm taking Jacob, you're taking Solo on this one. 606 00:56:56,000 --> 00:57:01,000 Next match here is Dominic Mysterio, Defender of the Intercontinental Championship against AJ Styles. 607 00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:05,000 Dr. Trey, who do you like in this one? 608 00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:10,000 So it feels like AJ's had the upper hand the entire time in this rivalry, so I'm gonna take Dominic getting the win. 609 00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:15,000 I went back and forth on this one. I really thought Dominic would win and it would make sense for his character. 610 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:19,000 I want to see AJ Styles as Intercontinental Champion, so I'm gonna take AJ, Dr. Trey. 611 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:27,000 No, I feel that. I would love to see AJ win. Whoever wins this match, I'm good with because I can see direction for both. 612 00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:34,000 But you have Dom doing so much of a AAA, having that belt gives him a little bit of gravitas when he goes down there. 613 00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:37,000 So I'm leaning Dom on that. 614 00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:42,000 Could you make a theory that maybe they take the title off of him in case he becomes the AAA MAKA champion? 615 00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:50,000 I don't think he's gonna be AAA MAKA champion until they have something to where they can stream it or put it out on US television. 616 00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,000 Well, it's supposed to be on YouTube, I guess, for Romania. 617 00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:57,000 That's not, yeah, that to me is not streaming. That's... 618 00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,000 YouTube is streaming? 619 00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:03,000 It is, but I still don't think of YouTube as a big platform to watch online. 620 00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:06,000 Oh, right now. You sound like, get off my porch guy now. 621 00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,000 Wait, aren't you the guy who just said you're old because you didn't like Travis Scott? 622 00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:13,000 Well, could you tell me Travis Scott's free Travis Scott's songs? 623 00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:17,000 No, I thought Travis Scott was like a positional baseball player for the Phillies Minor League Triple H. 624 00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:22,000 Exactly, exactly. I mean, if he was a wide receiver for the Eagles, I'd be like, oh, yeah, I know Travis Scott. 625 00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:34,000 Yeah, like, to me, it is, but I just want to see them either on whatever PCOT platform before they bring in to be the Triple H. 626 00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:38,000 Dr. Trey wants to see them on Telemundo. That's what he's trying to get at. So, all right, there we go. 627 00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:43,000 I mean, you put some telenovelas leading into a Dominic Mysterio AAA match, I'm there. 628 00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,000 All right, right on. Stay tuned folks. 629 00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:54,000 So I'm taking AJ Styles. Dr. Trey is taking Dominic Mysterio. Naomi defends against Rhea Ripley and EO Sky in a Triple Threat match for the Women's World Championship. 630 00:58:54,000 --> 00:59:00,000 Tough one to call. I'm going to go with Naomi. I don't think they take the title off of her right away, Dr. Trey. 631 00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:09,000 No, I think depending on, I'd not depend. I think Roxanne or Rock Hell get involved to kind of help Naomi retain. 632 00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:16,000 I mean, maybe one of these were like, you know, Rhea Histor, Rip, Tudda, and Naomi are on EO and Naomi throws around against the pin. 633 00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:22,000 I just, you don't make that dramatic of a switch for the cash in for it's only last a month. 634 00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:34,000 I think there is a level of continuity if you have Jade win on Smackdown and Naomi on Raw because that can kind of feed into whatever they do at Bianca at Royal Rumble if Bianca wins the Rumble. 635 00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:37,000 All right, so they got both of us taking Naomi in this one to retain. 636 00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:45,000 And now this is a tough one that Trey John Cena defends. The Undisputed WWE Championship against Cody Rhodes in a Street Fight. 637 00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:49,000 Who walks out of Summerslam as the Undisputed WWE Champion? 638 00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:58,000 This one, this is hard for me to pick because the fantasy booker of me wants the double turn. 639 00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:03,000 And I don't know if they're going to pull the trigger on it. And that's where I'm at now. 640 01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:15,000 I mean, piecemaker comes out this next week also. So there is, you know, hey, do you want John Cena as a baby face out there promoting the DCU or do you want him as a heal promoting the DCU? 641 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:23,000 Like where do you want to go this? I'm taking Cody regardless. I just for me, I want the double turn and I don't know if we're going to get it. 642 01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:30,000 So I'm going to take Cody get in the title back from Cena so that eventually we can see the baby face run to close out his career. 643 01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:43,000 I like you and taking Cody Rhodes to in this one. And I think Cody does lean to the dark side a little bit and I'm tempted to say we get a turn. 644 01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:52,000 But I think he, it's like a slow build to the turn. I think he does something that I think he's going to get boot out of the building no matter what. 645 01:00:52,000 --> 01:01:01,000 I think this is going to be a pro scene of crowd. He's going to do something that causes more booze and you know, kicks in between the legs, one, two, three. 646 01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:10,000 And that kind of starts the build and John Cena starts to do the baby face run towards the end of his time in WWE. 647 01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:15,000 But I don't think we get like a WrestleMania 13 double turn in this match. 648 01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:20,000 I mean, you don't think we get elimination chamber type double turn. 649 01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:24,000 Well, that wasn't really a double turn. 650 01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:30,000 Yeah, we don't get the sword where rock costs Cena the match. 651 01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:34,000 I think it's like a slower build. I think it's like why Cody why this type stuff like. 652 01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:46,000 I mean, I'd love to see it and you see all the Easter eggs out there on the internet with Cody wearing the watch that looks like the one that rock gave him and the sunglasses and you see it and you see a little bit of that. 653 01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:56,000 Heal persona seeping through a times like, yeah, I kind of want to see rock come out and cost you the match only because that might mean we get rock seen a three. 654 01:01:56,000 --> 01:02:03,000 So if you loved Travis Scott taking six minutes to get down on the ring and WrestleMania 41. 655 01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:10,000 If rock comes out and sides with Cody after not explaining why Cena sided with rock. 656 01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:14,000 Yeah, holy shit is next week. So I'm just filled with confusion. 657 01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:20,000 By the way, if you think Travis Scott taking six minutes to get the ring, just wait to see how long it takes jelly roll to get to the ring. 658 01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:25,000 You don't think they'll bring back the card? You don't think they'll do the WrestleMania card for this one? 659 01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:34,000 Oh my gosh, because how long is that ramp in New York New Jersey? I mean, that's a long, that's a long way to get there. 660 01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:37,000 I mean, jelly roll might be blown up before the match starts. 661 01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:40,000 Do it under 300 pounds right now. 662 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:44,000 I'm under 300 pounds and it takes me a long time to get down there because my cardio is still in great. 663 01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:48,000 So no, I just, I mean, there's part of it. 664 01:02:48,000 --> 01:03:01,000 I just kind of want to see home lander version of Cody Rhodes, but the only problem with that is like you've got all these heel stables and if Cody goes heel now, it's kind of hard to have another group around Cody. 665 01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:10,000 So I think Cody wins in like you said, we get the slow build to the eventual heel turn, you know, post-Royal Rumble heading into mania season. 666 01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:19,000 So there you go. There is our Summer Slam preview predictions. We will recap and review it all for you on next week's edition of SRTU. 667 01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:25,000 With that being said, let's see a couple plugs and sponsors out of the way you could support us at patreon.com/srtupodgassing. 668 01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:32,000 Get the show ad free along with so many more exclusives coming soon. We'll be dropping more SRTU classics in August. 669 01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:40,000 Some more Jeff Peck podcasts waiting room with Dr. Shreys should be coming soon. So stick check out out there and support the pod. 670 01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:47,000 You can download the show every Thursday or Friday at realguymedia.com, russetnet.com/srtupodgassing. 671 01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:53,000 And also again, once patreon.com/srtupodgassing. 672 01:03:53,000 --> 01:04:04,000 You get the show immediately after we're done recording, like literally minutes after we're done recording the show. It goes up on patreon. Don't forget to rate, review and subscribe as the algorithm is king. 673 01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:12,000 First to keep climbing the charts on all of the podcast platforms. You could fall, individually an X from myself at SRTU. Jeff and for Dr. Shreys Franklin and the Dr. Shreys. 674 01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:20,000 And of course, don't forget the fall show on X at SRTU podcast. With that being said, what is going on in the wonderful world of Dr. Shreys Franklin this week? 675 01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:27,000 Well, like Jeff said, you can follow me on X at the Dr. Trey. You can find me on Facebook and Instagram. Just search out Dr. Trey Franklin. 676 01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:38,000 When you're on Facebook, go check out Rocketsy Championship Wrestling. This Saturday night we have our tournament that we do every year. The Sean, Sean Shocker Evans Memorial Tournament. 677 01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:44,000 Sean Evans, the guy who helped rank Kurt Angle in a lot of other great stars that came out of the Pittsburgh area. 678 01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:51,000 Eight men enter the field. The winner will get a shot at the Rocketsy World Championship. So that's one of our favorite shows of the year. 679 01:04:51,000 --> 01:05:04,000 But most importantly, gather and check out your local independent wrestling shows so you two can find your next major breakout star while they're still floundering on the Indies making five bucks and getting hot dogs and handshakes as their payoffs. 680 01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:11,000 But that's where wrestling grows from and that's where you need to be. The grassroots or professional wrestling right there. Your local independent wrestling scene. 681 01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:23,000 So there you go. Support all the great things that support SRTU. And once again, spread love, show love to the show and be there and support us along the way. Patreon.com/SRTU podcast. 682 01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:31,000 Looking forward to this weekend watching SummerSlam. Looking forward to recapping it all and reviewing it for all of you on next week's edition of the pod. 683 01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:41,000 So enjoy the week rest of your week. Enjoy your weekend. Thank you for supporting the podcast and until next week for Dr. Strayf Franklin. I am Jeff Pack. This has been Mr. Relish.