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3 Guys Before The Game - WVU Football vs Texas Tech Preview - WVU Basketball vs Stetson (Episode 753) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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  Speaker 1: Welcome, welcome, welcome.
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  Speaker 2: And it is time for three guys before the game.
• 0:13
  Speaker 2: We're banging some episodes, man, like two and three days.
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  Speaker 2: We're on fire. Double episode here.
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  Speaker 3: We're almost like the Stetson basketball team.
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  Speaker 2: They're busy. They're playing a road trip. Three games in
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  Speaker 2: five days for the Hatters. We'll talk about that coming
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  Speaker 2: up in the program. We'll also preview West Virginia. And
• 0:33
  Speaker 2: the Red Raiders of Texas Tech. This is episode number
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  Speaker 2: 753 of Three Guys. Hoppy obviously has his obvious observations.
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  Speaker 2: Brad's got a double dose of spreads on stats with
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  Speaker 2: the hoop game and the football game. Dan Stratford, the
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  Speaker 2: Mountaineer soccer team since the last time we got together.
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  Speaker 2: World's champions.
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  Speaker 3: All they do is win. Yep, just win.
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  Speaker 2: World's champions.
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  Speaker 1: How many wins do we need to win it?
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  Speaker 3: Just five. We'll line up and win it.
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  Speaker 2: Whatever.
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  Speaker 3: Just win five in a row. Just win.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, is that right? How many do we need? We'll
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  Speaker 2: take care of that for you.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you something. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Got a lot of stuff to get into, so to
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  Speaker 2: way with a Tudor's Biscuit. Once again, we're going in
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  Speaker 2: the morning. You remember back in the old days, Brad
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  Speaker 2: Hoppy would kind of bring us some biscuits from Tudor's.
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  Speaker 2: Haven't done that in a while. He's on fixed income now, semi-retired.
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  Speaker 3: No, but they are not expensive. You get a heck
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  Speaker 3: of a meal for a reasonable price. Absolutely. You get
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  Speaker 2: No, we're fine.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks.
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  Speaker 1: Don't take the bait.
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  Speaker 2: Is that double negative? Don't take no. They won't take no.
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  Speaker 2: For an answer.
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  Speaker 3: No how, no way.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. You know what I meant.
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  Speaker 3: I also sometimes say, is that right? That's right.
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  Speaker 2: Is that right? Oh, really?
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  Speaker 3: Is that right? Okay.
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  Speaker 2: for all Mountaineers, including you. All right. As I said,
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  Speaker 2: double dip episode. We're recording Thursday morning early, and WVU's
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  Speaker 2: women's basketball team playing its second game in three days, right?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: They played a testy bunch.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Rams.
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  Speaker 1: A spunky Rhode Island team.
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  Speaker 3: Spunky.
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  Speaker 2: That's a good name to put it. Spunky Rhode Island.
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  Speaker 2: Would you be surprised? Our Joe Bricado from Metro News
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  Speaker 2: is from Rhode Island. They had a lot of the
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  Speaker 2: characteristics of Joe. Very spunky, determined, weren't going to- Just
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  Speaker 2: showed up to work. Just showed up. They just showed
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  Speaker 2: up and worked. Yeah. I think they hit 10 threes.
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  Speaker 3: They did.
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  Speaker 2: So I think that was a very valuable game for
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  Speaker 2: WVU's new look team and for Mark Kellogg because now
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  Speaker 2: he can go, okay, I've been mentioning in practice we
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  Speaker 2: need to do this and we need to do this.
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  Speaker 2: Now they've got 40 minutes of it on tape. What's
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  Speaker 2: weird about the game was if the thing held through
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  Speaker 2: where it was with six minutes to go, they're up 17.
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  Speaker 2: So if you make a couple more and you win
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  Speaker 2: the game by 19 or 20, everyone goes like, And
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  Speaker 2: then instead, Rhode Island goes on a run, no pun intended,
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  Speaker 2: at the end of the game. And now it's closer,
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  Speaker 2: which I think is good, to be quite honest with you.
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  Speaker 2: It's an attention-grabbing. And you can also see a lot
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  Speaker 2: of talent on this team, but they are still trying
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  Speaker 2: to find the synchronicity that will come over time. And
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  Speaker 2: so to play another game just two days later, I think,
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  Speaker 2: is invaluable for this team. They've got a hoppy, our
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  Speaker 2: first president, George Washington. on the schedule for tonight.
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  Speaker 1: That's my takeaway. I think you could just watch that
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  Speaker 1: for two minutes and see the talent that's on that floor.
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  Speaker 1: I thought defensively they got a little out of their lanes.
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  Speaker 1: They'd go for a steal and then couldn't recover and
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  Speaker 1: it'd be an easy shot. That stuff will start to
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  Speaker 1: get closed off pretty soon. That defense is going to
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  Speaker 1: be swarming, number one. Number two, I think I have
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  Speaker 1: this number right. It's not right in front of me.
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  Speaker 1: Like 17 of 40 on shots at the rim or
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  Speaker 1: in the lane was West Virginia. So they missed a
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  Speaker 1: lot of easy shots. That could have easily been a
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  Speaker 1: A 28-point lead at that point with six minutes to go.
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  Speaker 1: And then you just made five threes on the night.
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  Speaker 1: So you make a couple more threes and you run
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  Speaker 1: that thing out. But I'm with you. I think that's
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  Speaker 1: a good teaching moment. You win and you move on.
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  Speaker 1: You get right back into action tonight.
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  Speaker 2: As I mentioned at the start, men's soccer needed to
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  Speaker 2: win at James Madison on Tuesday. And they went out
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  Speaker 2: there and scored early on on a wild goal. Wild goal.
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  Speaker 2: Wasn't like the greatest bicycle kick. It's kind of like
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  Speaker 2: it was between like a bicycle and a tricycle. Do
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? It wasn't the traditional. He
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  Speaker 2: kind of angled it, but unbelievable, unstoppable goal. Credit to
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  Speaker 2: him for just even attempting that. But they go up 1-0,
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  Speaker 2: and then they just kind of got another. The second goal,
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  Speaker 2: two headers, bang, bang. That was fantastic. And so the
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  Speaker 2: fighting Stratfords, the fighting Stratfords, now are the one seed
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  Speaker 2: in the Sun Belt, and they will host.
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  Speaker 3: Sunday. They will. They host Georgia Southern. And Marshall won two, however,
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  Speaker 3: only in soccer. WVU comes out the number one seed.
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  Speaker 3: They have the tiebreaker by gold differential in league matches.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know why you got to take a shot
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  Speaker 2: at soccer.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't have a shot. I'm pointing out why they
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  Speaker 3: are the top seed.
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  Speaker 2: You said only in soccer. Soccer is like a special
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  Speaker 2: thing where that would only happen. No, there's things like
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  Speaker 2: that that happen. Points. Points matter, Hoppy. All right. Speaking
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  Speaker 2: of points, state tournament, high school. Yeah. Last night, Beckley
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  Speaker 2: in the state tournament. Beat Morgantown.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, 7-0. 7-0. 7-0. That's a, phew.
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  Speaker 2: Like in dog years, that's like 49-0. That's a lot.
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  Speaker 3: That is a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Mountaineer football team leaves Friday
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  Speaker 2: for the late start. At Texas Tech. And we're going
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  Speaker 2: to get into all of that, the intangible. So I
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  Speaker 2: don't want to go any further because it infringes upon
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  Speaker 2: Hoppe's obvious observation.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm going to detract and not say, or pull
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  Speaker 2: back and not say anything about it.
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  Speaker 3: Well, thank you. I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 2: Because you know why?
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  Speaker 3: Why?
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  Speaker 2: Because this show's about respect. Starting today?
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  Speaker 3: Glad to see you turn over a new leaf. Just
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  Speaker 3: a post-election.
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  Speaker 2: This show is about honoring one another, being grateful.
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  Speaker 3: Boy, that is.
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  Speaker 2: Gratitude for Hoppy and his obvious observations.
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  Speaker 3: Normally, if you sense weakness on one, the other two pounce.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that'll continue. Let's do this. Let's go.
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  Speaker 1: He's got thoughts that sound brand new. But they're things
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  Speaker 1: we already knew.
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  Speaker 3: He's got his football.
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  Speaker 1: Let's make it quick before.
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  Speaker 3: His bladder blows It's Hoppy's Obvious Observations Yeah, baby.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, never mentioned, I don't think, it's not
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  Speaker 2: in your Obvious Observations, but we lost Donny Iris.
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  Speaker 3: That's right.
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  Speaker 2: And the song that we use is similar. It's similar
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  Speaker 2: to Da Donny's I.
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  Speaker 3: Love Pittsburgh Institution for years and years and years.
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  Speaker 1: His version was our original version when we first started.
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  Speaker 2: We actually played it probably, I don't know how long,
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  Speaker 2: but a bit. And then we had someone, we said, hey,
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  Speaker 2: can you give us something that sounds like this but
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  Speaker 2: won't get us sued? And we took care of it.
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  Speaker 1: No rules in college sports, but there is in music licensing. Oh,
• 8:50
  Speaker 1: my gosh, music licensing.
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  Speaker 2: They get hot.
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  Speaker 3: They do.
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  Speaker 2: So we have something. So anyway, that was that hoppy. Please,
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  Speaker 2: by all means, sir, you have the floor, good friend.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Brad, I've got one word for
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  Speaker 3: this upcoming game. Joy? It could be joy. Opportunity. This
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  Speaker 3: is an opportunity, right? You're a heavy underdog, and I'll
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  Speaker 3: get to that in a minute. So people don't expect
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  Speaker 3: you to win. There have been a lot of upsets
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  Speaker 3: in the top 25 this year, so upsets are not
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  Speaker 3: unheard of. So you have an opportunity to win on
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  Speaker 3: the road against a conference opponent, get your sixth win,
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  Speaker 3: be bowl eligible, knock off one of the top teams
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  Speaker 3: in the country, and become a bit of the national story.
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  Speaker 3: Because if you beat a team that's ranked whatever they are,
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  Speaker 3: 13th or 14th, if you beat them, you will be
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  Speaker 3: part of the story. You won't be the biggest story
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  Speaker 3: because of other games. But you're like, hey, Texas Tech
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  Speaker 3: got upset by West Virginia. Rich Rodriguez on the road,
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  Speaker 3: big win. So this game, Brad, is an opportunity. Agree? Fair. OK.
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  Speaker 2: If that happens, people will know like Monday morning because
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  Speaker 2: the game won't get over.
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  Speaker 3: That's true.
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  Speaker 2: They will.
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  Speaker 1: But it'll be nice because within the Big 12, it'll
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  Speaker 1: be 47 hours. removed from when BYU and Utah are
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  Speaker 1: kicking off. So that might be the story early, but
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  Speaker 1: then you'll become the story.
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  Speaker 3: Mountaineer Nation, as we've talked about endlessly, not happy with
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  Speaker 3: the 930 kickoff. However, I have a silver lining to that.
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  Speaker 2: This is awesome. Please.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. So the premier games on Saturday night are Miami
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  Speaker 3: at Notre Dame, and Georgia at Ole Miss. They both
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  Speaker 3: go at 730. Those are the big national games. So
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  Speaker 3: for national audiences, you're sitting there, you watch the game, okay,
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  Speaker 3: the national game's over, and you say, what else is
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  Speaker 3: going on? Oh, West Virginia and Texas Tech, Texas Tech
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  Speaker 3: are ranked team. So I think you have the potential
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  Speaker 3: to have the benefit of a spillover of a national audience.
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  Speaker 2: You worked that pretty good, Hop. He went there for
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  Speaker 2: that one, didn't he?
• 10:43
  Speaker 3: Hoppy located in Bristol now. Well, I mean, seriously. You're
• 10:46
  Speaker 3: a college football fan. You're watching a game, and you think, hey, well, okay.
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  Speaker 2: See what's going on? Thanks a lot, Rune Arledge.
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  Speaker 1: Well, listen, there's no doubt from a college football fan
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  Speaker 1: perspective there's a benefit. You get games all day. But
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  Speaker 1: I think the point starting to become in these TV games,
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: it's really more about the local fan base. That's why
• 11:04
  Speaker 1: we keep bringing up BYU and Utah. That's better for
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  Speaker 1: me as a college football fan that they're playing at
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  Speaker 1: 10 a.m.
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  Speaker 3: Local.
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  Speaker 1: That's great.
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  Speaker 2: I understand.
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  Speaker 1: That's not good for those fan bases.
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  Speaker 3: No, it's not good for the fan bases. I called
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  Speaker 3: it just a silver lining. that nationally there will be
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  Speaker 3: people that will tune into that game, especially if it's
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  Speaker 3: a good game, after the other game is over. Because
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  Speaker 3: you're going, what else is on?
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  Speaker 2: Hoppy, in our new philosophy of gratitude and thanks, that's
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  Speaker 2: a wonderful observation. I've really warmed my heart. Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like you're not with me on that.
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  Speaker 2: I agree with you. Basically, it comes down to this.
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  Speaker 2: If those games go bad, and all of a sudden
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  Speaker 2: they become a blowout or something like that, and people
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  Speaker 2: start flipping. Yeah, so there you go.
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  Speaker 3: That's great.
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  Speaker 1: So the people in Nebraska can watch it and enjoy it,
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  Speaker 1: but everybody here will be asleep.
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  Speaker 3: That's good. Good silver lining.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Hey, let me tell you something. Let me tell
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  Speaker 2: you something. This Texas Tech start time is going to
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  Speaker 2: feel like noon when we go play basketball against Auburn.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, what time do you say?
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  Speaker 2: Midnight.
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  Speaker 3: No, you know it isn't. Yeah, that is right.
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  Speaker 2: It's what time? Midnight Eastern. We tipped.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's in Vegas, right? So, I mean, there's no time.
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  Speaker 3: It's just like there's no clocks in Las Vegas.
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  Speaker 2: No clocks.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. Start at 4 in the morning. Doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 3: People in the casino, people drinking, people eating breakfast. It
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  Speaker 3: doesn't matter. I don't want to get into it.
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  Speaker 2: Is there any place in the world where more people
• 12:22
  Speaker 2: are literally drinking alcohol and having breakfast at simultaneous times?
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  Speaker 2: No city has more than that going on.
• 12:30
  Speaker 3: And that's why I say, my wife has never been
• 12:32
  Speaker 3: to Las Vegas. I said, you got to go. It's
• 12:34
  Speaker 3: not your thing, but you just need to see it.
• 12:36
  Speaker 3: Two days. Two days. Just go see it. And then
• 12:39
  Speaker 3: take a shower and go home.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a circus.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. I don't want to get into Brad's territory very much.
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  Speaker 3: That's a first. It is strength on strength. Texas Tech
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  Speaker 3: really good at stopping the run West Virginia wants to run.
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  Speaker 3: I will generally stop there. But I did. Texas Tech
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  Speaker 3: has intercepted 13 passes, run five back for touchdowns. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: What is up with that? Had a streak of four
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  Speaker 3: in a row. Four games in a row. That is
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  Speaker 3: the weirdest stat I've ever heard. How does that happen?
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  Speaker 2: That's suboptimal for the opposing offense.
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  Speaker 3: So here's a key.
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  Speaker 2: Don't turn the ball over.
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  Speaker 1: Well, please, they're due to not have one of those.
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  Speaker 2: That's used up there.
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  Speaker 1: A lot for the next 40 years.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go. Yeah, they're done. They've used them all, hopefully.
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  Speaker 3: But when a team, when a, so I did a
• 13:21
  Speaker 3: little of my own research on this. So when you
• 13:23
  Speaker 3: give up a pick six, the odds of you winning
• 13:26
  Speaker 3: the game are like 25%. They drop dramatically. So don't
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  Speaker 3: give up one of those. I'll let you talk about
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  Speaker 3: Thomas Castellanos, the much-traveled Thomas Castellanos. This is something interesting.
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  Speaker 3: You know what they're talking about at Texas Tech?
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  Speaker 2: Lots of stuff.
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  Speaker 3: They're talking about Castellanos now being the starter. They're not
• 13:45
  Speaker 3: talking about this game. They're talking about the first college
• 13:48
  Speaker 3: football playoff poll that came out and go, hey, we're
• 13:51
  Speaker 3: right there. We're on the edge, but we're not in
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  Speaker 3: there yet. So we got a big game with Oklahoma
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  Speaker 3: State coming up. So we got to get in there.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe. Maybe, you know, I mean, flat spot, potentially, for
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  Speaker 3: Texas Tech, Brad?
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  Speaker 1: I would have rather they not lost to Cincinnati already.
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  Speaker 1: Because they were wobbly in some early games. We've talked
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  Speaker 1: about that a couple times on here.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. We'll see. That's why you play the game, Bob.
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  Speaker 1: It is.
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  Speaker 3: I just thought it's interesting that what the narrative is there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Every week, New York Times... The Athletic does sports in
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  Speaker 3: the New York Times. They rank all 138 college football teams.
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  Speaker 3: West Virginia comes in at 36. Comes in at 36,
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  Speaker 3: not bad. You're ahead of Oklahoma, Auburn, Washington, Nebraska, Cincinnati, Clemson, Baylor,
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: Texas A & M, North Carolina, Pitt, Florida State, and
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  Speaker 3: Penn State in those rankings.
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  Speaker 2: It's hard to win.
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  Speaker 3: It's hard to win. All right, real quick, WVU basketball.
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  Speaker 3: Is Stetson going to be a little road weary?
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: They may have some fatigue. Three games in five days.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe a bit weary. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: It's early in the season, though. They... They'll be all right.
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  Speaker 2: Well, to be quite honest with you, Hoppy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Like, we'll sit here and make a big deal out
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  Speaker 2: of it. The reality of it is this. These young
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: men that are participating in their AAU days, they'll play
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  Speaker 2: three games in a day.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: Seriously.
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: So, like, we make a lot about it. So, yeah,
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: they're not going to be crisp. But at the same time,
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: they're used to running up and down. Plus, you get
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: media timeouts. It's not like... All right.
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: Okay. I just.
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: Still, it's not like you're climbing on top of Spruce Knob.
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: They lost.
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: All due respect to Spruce Knob.
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: They started out by losing to our biggest non-traditional rival rival.
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they did.
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: Clemonson. Clemonson. Lost to South Carolina. It's a brutal stretch
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: for them.
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: But profitable.
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: But profitable. West Virginia connection, Donnie Jones, former Marshall coach.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: Point Pleasant. Great guy.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: Not the only one. Sean Finney also on that staff.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: West Virginia native, Fairmont State. graduate he was also the
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: Tulane head coach for a while.
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: Their AD Ricky Ray received his doctorate at Marshall how
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: about that West Virginia connection we talked about WV women's
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: basketball we talked about soccer uh let's see.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: So basically he just took a passive aggressive shot at
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: us because we already talked.
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: No that's okay he had to take it off of
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: his list it's okay that.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: Was a little fired bomb there um.
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: Oh okay the house goes after the election the house
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: goes back into session yes It goes back into session Monday.
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: They'll be in session until December 17th. They have a
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: Thanksgiving break. But will they be motivated to do it?
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: It sounds like they're not going to do anything. Absolutely not.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: There's heavy doubts on this thing now.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: It's just like, ugh.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, heavy doubts. All of that work went for not.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: Which is tragic.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: Not done. So now this new formation of the Congress
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: will not deal with this. It's now incumbent upon the
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: conferences to do your own business and create some form
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: of governance. Can they do it? That becomes the ultimate question.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: You think it shifts back into the conferences? No one
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: else is going to do it.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: You've already seen it. The Big Ten, read the tea leaves.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: There's a reason the Big Ten already announced what it
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: announced earlier about putting its own cap in and trying
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: to do that. They announced that a couple weeks ago, right?
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: In anticipation of what was coming and that this was
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: probably going to die.
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: And the conferences are going to have to take the lead.
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: So you're already seeing that.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: Hey, Harvey. Yeah. Think about the amount of money that
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: was spent to try to get that thing passed. The
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: dollars that the NCAA through lobbyists put in. The visits.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: And others.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: That sports folks, right?
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: The visits that sports people made to Congress. The hearings.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: Worked it.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: And it just went.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: Worked it hard. Which is really sad, I think. You know?
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, it had bipartisan. Imagine this, Tony. Listen to this.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: A bill that passed with bipartisan support in the Congress anymore. Finally, Tony,
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: this is for you.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: Whoa.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: On this day, November 5th, 1919, the WVU football team
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: played Fordham at the Polo Grounds. WVU stopped Fordham at
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: the goal line as time expired and it ended in
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: a 0-0 tie.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, I love that.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: Here's how the New York Times reported it. Tony Siano,
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: the Fordham captain, whose defensive play as floating center made
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: him the outstanding man on the field, snapped the ball
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: amid a frenzied shrieks from the maroon stands. O'Shea took
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: the ball and projected himself straight through the middle of
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: the line behind his desperately plowing captain. The West Virginia secondaries,
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: spotting the play instantaneously, came up like a shot to
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: throw themselves into the breach. And there was a wild upheaval.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: The breach.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: In which 22 men piled up in a jumbled mass. Mass. Frantically,
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: the officials fought to get to the bottom of the heap.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: And there was an agonizing moment as the crowd waited
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: for the verdict.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: It was almost.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: Immediately, referee Wilmer G. Cromwell of Swarthmore, one of the
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: most competent men in the game.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Well known.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: Cromwell.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: Who's got the game? Cromwell.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: One of the most competent men in the game.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: That's a good one.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: Where's he from? Swarthmore.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: Found the ball was short of the goal by inches,
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: and he signaled no score. And the end of the game.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: The West Virginia players danced joyously on the field. And
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: that's how the New York Times were put. This day
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: in 1919. This day in 1919. That's a game story.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: That's a game story. They're not written.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Like that anymore, are they? Why did that style of
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: writing stop, do you think?
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: You know, I don't know. Let me research and find out.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: Because it used to be just very flowery like that.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: And frankly, there is, we will look at it now
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: and say that's quaint or outdated. But there's something about
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: it that is just.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: I agree. I agree.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: Themselves into the breach into the breach the other men
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: were thrown into the breach.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: I always found when West Virginia was in the Atlantic
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: 10 I always found that the sports writing in the
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Philadelphia newspapers when they would do recaps of games, it
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: was different style of writing. It was a variation of that.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: They just wrote basketball so well 30 years ago. And
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: now it's just all vanilla garbage, AI-driven data statistic.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: So that was just a fun thing. I think it
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: was probably the only 0-0 tie in West Virginia football history,
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: I'm guessing. But there you go. That's what you got.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Back in the days of the ties.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: 0-0. Ties, man. Not good.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: I'm glad there's no ties. Ties were weird.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: Big stop by West Virginia at the goal line.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: We went 5-4-2 one year. Remember that?
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, yeah. Which is like, what is that?
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Is that a record?
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: Was that soccer?
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: We went 5-4-2. That was in the 90s. Yeah.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: I'm going to check that. You guys go ahead. I'll
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: check when that was.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: What a weird season that was. Three guys before the
• 20:53
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• 22:10
  Speaker 3: It was 1992, 5-4-2. They opened with a tie against Miami, Ohio.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Randy Walker was the coach.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: Oh, nice memory. 29-29. Then they tied. The other tie
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: was Boston College, 24-24. D.C. And they finished the season
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: against Louisiana Tech. They won. I mean, that's kind of weird.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: Lost to Rutgers. So the 92 game. Turn your microphone on, sir.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: Might be the last time you've lost to Rutgers. Might be.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: 92 season ender for Louisiana Tech. Obviously, you went into
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: the game at 4-4-2. And you beat Louisiana Tech. I
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: always look at that game as a foundational marker. Because
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: that team would go undefeated the following season, right? The
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: 93 team.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: But it was a horrific bad weather day against Louisiana Tech.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: It was icy, rainy, cold. It couldn't have been worse.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: And the attendance was either 26,000 or 27,000. And I
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: always said to myself, that was my marker where I
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: don't care if there's a tsunami, an earthquake, meteors. you
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: will always have 27,000 Mountaineer fans. I'm being serious. I
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: think that's your base number. Like, no matter what, no
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: matter how bad the season is, no matter what the
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: weather is, you'll put 27,000 in there for a game.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Joe Ferguson, the former Buffalo Bills quarterback, was the quarterback's
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: coach or the offensive coordinator of that Louisiana Tech team.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: And I believe they had a gentleman on that offensive
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: line by the name of Willie Rofe. Huh.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah. You know who's on that team, though?
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: That was a good— Well, they went undefeated the next year.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: I mean, Studstill, Kelchner, Adrian Murrell, Garrett Ford, Robert Walker,
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: Ed Hill, James Jett, Mike Baker, Jay Carney. I mean,
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: that team was loaded.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: That team was the Syracuse fight team.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: What was the score of the Syracuse game? Let me check.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: That was the fight team. That was a couple weeks earlier.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: They got beat and got hosed. Oh, that was the fight? Yeah, 92,
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: because then in 93, West Virginia went up to Syracuse
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: and said, oh, is that right? Oh, is that right?
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Here's a little 43-0 for you. Robert Walker. That's right.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Robert Walker going in for the touchdown, giving it the, yeah,
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: it was good. Oh, that set that team up. Rich
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Braham was on that team, 92 team.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was loaded.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, they had players. They had players. All right,
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: shall we?
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: Let's get to some numbers. Let's look at some matchups.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: I want to hear what Brad has on this game
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: because I'm looking for a silver lining.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: Well, I think you've revealed one already. I thought you
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: did a great job.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: Well, I want numbers silver lining. I don't want to, like,
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: make up silver lining.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: All right, let's do spreads on the staff.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: So I check the numbers.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: We'll just go right to the numbers.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: Here comes a heater.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Let's jump into the analytics. I saw President Benson there.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: Of course you did.
• 25:01
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• 25:03
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• 25:09
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• 25:37
  Speaker 3: You know, enjoyed it the other night. President Benson just
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: pulled up the seat right next to me. Ren vacated.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: President Benson pulled up.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: I assume that's because Hoppy was probably in President Benson's seat.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: So he needed another one. So he just slid right
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: up the score table right next to me.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: He enjoyed that.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Poor President. He's out there looking around for a seat.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: Hoppy's seat.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. There's no seat. Hoppy took my seat. Can
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: I sit here?
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: I thought that was my seat.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: Basically what happened.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: Enjoyed having President Benson right next to us. Welcome anytime.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: You think maybe in some of the non-conference games we'd
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: put an extra mic over there and let the president.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: That one we could have. We were having a conversation. Again,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: we've mentioned he's on it. He knows what he's looking at.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: He's on it. Big sports guy. Sounds fun. All right,
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: you ready?
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Did you have any numbers that made you say wow?
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: We'll get into some here, including the formula for victory. Yay. Excellent.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: How about that?
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Looking forward to that. Yeah, baby, I want a formula
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: for victory. That's what I want.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: All right, let's dive into some matchups. First, Texas Tech's
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: offense versus West Virginia's defense. Thanks to the aforementioned Thomas Castellanos,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: this whole section changed.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: This had to change. Really interesting move at quarterback for
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: them and certainly worked out last week against Arizona. But
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: you heard Rich talk about it earlier this week. It
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: does change their style. They go from an offense that
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: was pretty 50-50 passing and throwing it to heavy, heavy run.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: 65% run against Arizona. The other day, Castellanos went for
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: 117 himself. Jacoby Williams, heck of a running back. 175
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: yards on the ground against the Wildcats on.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: Just 14 carries.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: So that's nearly 300 yards on the ground just between
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: those two guys. So it does change the equation for
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: this Zach Alley defense that you're likely going to get
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: a heavy dose of running the football versus a little
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: more balanced offense when it was Will Hammond.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: Someone told me this, and then I went back and
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: I watched their game. And he is, I think, the
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: fastest running back that we've seen this season. Really? When
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: he goes, he's gone. He's gone.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: West Virginia's rush defense is 92nd nationally in opponent success rate,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: and it's 103rd in EPA per rush. So again, as
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: we know, you've had trouble against the run and the pass.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Do you have a little more chance to maybe stop
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: a run, Hop?
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: Maybe. Can you bow up and get a couple stops?
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: It's no surprise statistically, like everything I read statistically, defense
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: against our offense, you're going uphill in this. So the
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: question just becomes, can you replicate last game's defensive effort?
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: I think the offenses for TCU and Texas Tech are
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: vastly different here. You're getting a much better offense, but
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: the theory still remains the same. So you'd rather not
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: get out gained and out first down if you can
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: avoid it. But OK, if that has to happen and
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: you can get some key stops, so be it. And
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: here's what you have to do. Limit explosive plays first
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: and foremost, and they did a great job of this
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: against TCU. Tech has to make them be efficient down-to-down.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Don't just give up those big, long runs that you
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: were just talking about there, Tony. When he gets in
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: the open field, he's gone lookout. Texas Tech is fourth
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: among Power 4 teams in explosive run rate, so easy
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: to sit up here and say, hey, why don't you
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: limit explosive plays? That's really hard to do. No one's
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: really done that against them yet. Red Raiders are 48th among...
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: 64 power four teams in explosive pass rate. So that's
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: another one of those where you look, maybe it would
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: have been better to have a passing offense in place
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: than a rush offense, but that's not what you're getting.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: So can you win first and second down? This number
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: jumped out to me when it comes to Texas Tech's
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: offense that has been very good, but they're 105th nationally
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: in third down distance to go. So they're averaging almost
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: eight yards per third down. So can you get them
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: into third down, and can you get them into third
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: and long? So a run stop on first down that
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: holds them to two yards, an incomplete pass on second,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden it's third and eight,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: and maybe you've got a chance there. So that's going
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: to be the formula. Keep that stat to be something
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: that stays consistent. 105th nationally and third down distance to
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: go at nearly eight yards. per third down to gain.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Turnovers is obviously an important factor if you're going to
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: pull any upset. This will have to be one as
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: you're a nearly 17-point underdog. And this one, they had
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: been turning the ball over at a pretty high clip,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: almost two per game. But a lot of that came
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: with Will Hammond at quarterback, which I would suspect is
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: part of the reason for the change. He had six
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: interceptions heading into the game. You're likely going to need
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: to get a couple of those. Castellanos is interesting because
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: if you look at just his throwing statistics, his passing
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: numbers from Arizona, you go, OK, we'll make the guy pass.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Can't complete anything. Did not have a very efficient game
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: against Arizona. But in his career, he's been pretty good, guys.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: 48 total big time throws and 39 turnover worthy plays.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: So we say this all the time. Big time throw
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: per PFF doesn't have to turn into a touchdown. Just
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: has to be a great throw by the quarterback. Same
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: with turnover worthy plays. Maybe it wasn't an interception. Probably
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: should have been. So 48-39. But here's what's interesting about
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: that hop. A big chunk of those turnover worthy plays,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: in fact, 22 of them, came in 2023 while he
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: was at BC. Castellanos has been really clean the last
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: two years at FSU and now limited duty at Texas Tech.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: 25 big-time throws with just 10 turnover-worthy plays. So even
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: though he wasn't efficient from a completion percentage, he has
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: been pretty good in that area the last couple of years.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: Here's another part. If they drive you into the scoring zone,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Can you stand up and force field goals rather than touchdowns?
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: And I'll get into this in just a minute, but
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: it was a key against Cincinnati. Cincinnati was able to
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: do that. Texas Tech kept marching into the red zone,
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: but stalled out on that. So I'll come back to
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: that here in just a second. There's two really good
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: statistical matchups where it's good on good. The first is
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: West Virginia's rush offense against Texas Tech's rush defense. So
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: WVU's rush offense, ninth national in EPA per rush against
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: a Tech defense. that is ninth overall in rushing success
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: rate allowed. So again, you're going good on good here.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: West Virginia faced similar numbers, good on good against TCU,
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: and you did enough to get enough points to get
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: you the win. But this is another real challenge for
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: this West Virginia offense. Texas Tech is, here's the number
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: to watch. West Virginia has been explosive all season offensively.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: WVU produces explosive runs on 13% of its carries. Texas
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Tech allows them on nearly 16% of its opponents' carries.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: So that may be where you find your biggest offensive opportunity.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: This might not be a down-to-down success, as I just outlined.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Texas Tech's pretty good in that. But can you hit
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: them on some explosives? West Virginia's in the 95th percentile
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: when it comes to explosive run plays. And number one
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: nationally still, two-thirds of the way in the season, number
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: one nationally in explosive pass plays. So can you hit them?
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: A defensive secondary that, while very talented, is dealing with
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: some injuries, has put some new guys in there. Can
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: you hit them with some big plays and score quickly?
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: There's a big feast or famine situation at play here
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: with this Texas Tech defense. They also stuff the run
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: at a pretty high rate, 21% of opponent carry. So
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: you're going to see some stuffs. What are the number
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: of stuffs versus the number of explosive carries? That's probably
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: if you're looking for a metric or watching it with
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: your eyes, which one of those is playing out? Is
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: West Virginia able to avoid negative plays, stay ahead of
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: the change, and then pop them for a couple big explosives?
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: I think the question about that good on good remains,
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: all right, those are great numbers for both sides. West
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Virginia has had running success against a very good defense
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: in TCU. Texas Tech, it could be argued, has not
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: seen an offense like this West Virginia offense. And so
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: that will be something to keep an eye on. Here's
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: one area that backs that up. The Red Raider defense
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: has faced an incredibly low run rate this season.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: Here we go.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: Here we go.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: Here comes the heart of the artichoke.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: Here we go.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Opponents have run the ball on just 34% of its
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: plays against Texas Tech.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Oh, is that right?
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: Out of 319 teams that Pro Football Focus charted playing
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: college football at all levels, Now, there's more than that,
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: but there were 319 that were in this particular chart.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: There are only five that have faced a lower run rate.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: That would be the Campbell Camels of the FCS subdivision.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: That's what I used to coach there.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: It would be the Concord Mountain Lions here in the
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: state of West Virginia, Division 2. Ohio Dominican, Division 2.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: And South Dakota Mines, Division 2. Those are the only
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: teams that have faced less of a run rate from
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: opponents than this Texas Tech team.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: That's a good stat.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is. That's impressive.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: It's an interesting stat. Does it mean anything?
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: We'll see.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Are they accustomed to getting this much run? No, they
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: are not. Are they accustomed to getting talented guys like
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Hawkins and Cook in tandem? Probably not.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: Can they stand up? We'll have to see.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Does WVU put a few wrinkles in during the bye
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: week offensively to break some tendons?
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: Wouldn't you think two-thirds of the season with a bye
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: week this late, you would probably add a couple of
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: different wrinkles into that?
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Oh, Coach Rod. He'll probably put something in there, a
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: little something.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: Here's something else to watch, and maybe this is one
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: of those areas. Cincinnati, the aforementioned Bearcats who pulled off
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: the win over Texas Tech, ran play action on nearly
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: 60% of its plays. So heavy run action.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: Run, we're going to run, we're going to run, we're
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: going to run, pull it. Now we're going to throw it.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: West Virginia's run play action on 33% of Mike Hawkins' dropbacks.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: But his play action rate was actually higher in these
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: following games. Cincinnati, TCU, and Virginia. Hoppy, what did all
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: three of those have in common for the Mountaineers? West
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Virginia was victorious in those ballgames. A little heavy play-action
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: rate in this particular one. And then I mentioned this
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: a minute ago. Here's the second good-on-good. West Virginia's got
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: to score touchdowns when they get inside the red zone.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: WVU is 17th nationally in red zone touchdown rate at 72%.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: Texas Tech's defense is allowing touchdowns on just 45% of
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: its opponents' possessions inside the red zones. 28th nationally. So
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Which of those happens? When you get down in there,
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: do you score seven rather than three? In Tech's lone
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: loss to Cincinnati, the Bearcats scored four touchdowns on four
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: red zone possessions. Perfect percentage. Texas Tech only had one
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: touchdown on three red zone possessions.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: Didn't they turn the ball over?
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: They kicked two field goals and came up empty once.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: So that right there, if you want to niche it down,
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: that's an area to keep an eye on. And lastly, guys.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: In a run of 10,000 game simulations.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: Gosh.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: You did this?
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: Super computer. Well, I didn't do it.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: That data center he's got in his house with that
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: big bathtub full of water, he just keeps pouring that
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: water in there to keep everything cool.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: A lot of those number sites love that game. In
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: a run of 10,000 simulations, Javi.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: So there are generally four keys that you need to
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: have to get the victory in a game like this.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Raise the probability of your win percentage the highest. When
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: you did this, score 34 points or more. That probably
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: makes sense.
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: Not always in this case. Well, I think what it's.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: What it's saying there is can you win the game
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: 17 to 14?
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: Sure you can.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: But the probability increases significantly in this matchup if it
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: turns into a shootout. Well, I mean, no surprise given
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: the makeup of your team. You need to hit at
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: least five explosive plays offensively.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: All right. That's within reason.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Now, frankly, that seems a little low. I question that one.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: That seemed a little low.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: Give me that one again.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: Five, at least five explosive plays offensively. Now, where I
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: think that seems low is if those all five go
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: for touchdowns. OK, now you're in the mix, but I
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: think you may need a little more than that.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: If they all happen in the same series.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Here's a big one. Need to win the turnover battle
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: by at least two. So obviously your probability jumped a
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: ton when you did that. If you're plus one. That helps,
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: but it's probably not going to be enough. And then
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: this was pre-Castellanos, but it plays with him as well
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: because you want to make them one-dimensional. Hold Texas Tech
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: to below 40% passing success rate. So that's not his
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: completion percentage. That's their successful plays when they decide to
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: throw it. They average about 50%. We mentioned earlier he
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: was wildly inefficient in the completion percentage against Arizona, 11
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: of 24. Now, he has a little Michael Hawkins in him, too,
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: in that run it, run it, run it, and then
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: they're going to look to hit you deep. So it's
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: not a huge shock if completion percentage is down a
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: little bit because you're trying to throw the ball downfield,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: which obviously are going to lower that percentage.
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: And also, it was his first time getting out there
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: throwing the ball around after. No, this season. Yeah, but
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: I mean, he is an experienced quarterback. I know he is,
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: but I mean, still.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: So there's your four points. Get to 35 points scored.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Hit at least five explosives. Win the turnover battle by
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: at least plus two. Limit their passing success rate.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: Do that. There is a path. You win some games.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: So you're saying there's a chance. There's a chance. Oh,
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: sure there is.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: The initial Wednesday injury report reported by WVU to the
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Big 12. Doubtful for the Mountaineers. Jyron Hughley. Mountaineer quarterback
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: must have got banged. You keep turning your mic off, dude.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: Taking a drink of my game day grind. Didn't want
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: to get yelled at for noises in the mic as.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: Sometimes happens on this set. Yeah, must have been in practice.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, must have got dinged.
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: Is he running scout? Yeah.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: No, actually, I've been running him just with the regular
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: guys just so he's around the ones and the twos.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: Doing a little bit of both. Damari Williams and Jacob
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: Bradford questionable for the Mountaineers. Probable Matt Sig, who had
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: the shoulder against TCU. Nick Taylor, who's been dealing with
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: a knee. And they also have probable Armani Weaver-Bomar, who
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: has had a handbrake, and he's been out since very
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: early in the season. Was it the first game or
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: the second game he had the long touchdown run? Hawkins
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: came to the right.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: Maybe first.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Lobbed it downfield. For Texas Tech... Probably the one
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: of note as a questionable is their leading receiver, Kenny Johnson.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: He's also their lead return man, and he's extremely good.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: So questionable there. And other than that, nothing of any great. Also,
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: basically they've got two receivers, Jalen Jones and Malcolm Simmons,
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: but they've only combined for a handful of catches. How many?
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: They've got six between the two of them. But Kenny
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: Johnson has got 35 catches. on the campaign, and what's
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: his return deal? His return deal is he averages 10
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: yards per punt return on the season, which is really,
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: really good, obviously. So that's what you got there.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: We mentioned, or Hop, you mentioned the ranking of Texas
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: Tech in the first college football playoff poll. We already knew,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: and we knew back in August, that this back end
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: of the schedule for West Virginia is difficult, but Plays
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: itself out, doesn't it? Three of the four teams you
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: have remaining found themselves in the first college football playoff ranking.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: So you're going to have your work cut out for
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: you here as you head down the stretch.
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: You know, watching the Arizona game, and I know a
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: linebacker is usually the leading tackler, but Austin Romain, he's everywhere.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: We've seen him before. He used to be at Kansas State.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: He'd been in the league. Castellanos, by the way, this
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: will be his 45th start.
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's played a ton of football. The Chris Lovell.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: One of their radio announcers for Texas Tech was on
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: Sportsline with us last night. He said they might have
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: the best linebacking crew in the country. But they're also
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: very good right up front on the defensive line, too.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: You're going to have your word. This is work, no question.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: They got pressure. They got, I mean, Pribulo? Pribulo is a, no,
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: not Pribulo. Yeah, the Arizona quarterback. Fafita. Fafita. Fafita is a,
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: you know, he's a slippery guy. But they were after
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: him pretty good.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: The defensive lineman that Mountaineer coaches just can, no matter
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: which one you talk to this week, A.J. Holmes, 6'3,
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: 300 pounds, fifth-year senior from Houston, transferred from Houston, team
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: leading seven and a half sacks. He's got five sacks
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: in the last three games, six quarterback hurries, and he
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: has had tackles for a loss in all of their games.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: And they will move him because he's so athletic. They
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: can move him out. They can move him right over
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: the center. They can move him wherever they want to
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: move him. So he is a massive, massive disruptor. Number 10, A.J.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: Holmes.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: Defensively, the numbers you're going to watch are 10, 20, 15, 13.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: Those are their main dudes.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: But the fact that they lost to Cincinnati, who ran
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: on them, tells you that, okay.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and Cincinnati hits some big– the reason explosive plays
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: is such a key Cincinnati hit them with some big
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: explosive plays there. You just outlined why they are so
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: hard to run the ball against down-to-down. So that's why
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: that success rate and EPA are so low, because down-to-down, Hoppy,
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: it is hard to move A.J. Holmes out of the
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: way multiple times.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: And Arizona got, like, no yards rushing.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: Well, they don't run it, though, either. Some of that's
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: a little misleading because they just don't run the ball.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: They throw the ball constantly. But this is different, and
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: that's why you've got to hit big explosive plays. They
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: are hard down-to-down.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: The intangibles all favor Texas Tech. It's on their home field.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: They've won 13 in a row. They win one more
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: at home. It's the all-time school record for most consecutive
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: home wins, one. Two, they know they have to win.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: They lost their mulligan with their loss at Cincinnati, and
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: now they know they have to win in order to
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: have any kind of a threat to get into the
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: college football playoff. A loss will take them out. They're
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: not going with two losses.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: The nighttime, late start, obviously, it's a sold-out game. They
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: will be ramped up. Now, a couple of things. Last year,
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: they came in here, and at the end of the season,
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: took West Virginia's lunch money, may have gone in there
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: and took everything. 49 to nothing. They have punished West Virginia.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: They've outscored the Mountaineers. They've scored over 100 points in
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: the last two games. West Virginia has scored 15.
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: Who was that quarterback that came in here one time?
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: Jett? Jet Duffy.
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: Jet Duffy.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: Jet Duffy. So everything favors them as far as the
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: intangibles go. And so you have got to put together.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: And if you listen to Joey McGuire, their head coach's
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: press conference this week, they're looking at West Virginia like
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: it's Army, Navy, or Air Force. And what do you
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: do against those teams? You punish their quarterback. Every chance
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: you get. He said, basically, this is, in essence, and
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: he said very favorable things about how good this offense is,
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: two-headed monster, da-da-da. But you have to punish them and
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: that quarterback.
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: He said it's like the triple. He says it's like
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: playing against the triple option. Yeah.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: So you will see, as a fan, if you're watching,
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: you may become a little upset because you're going to
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: see Michael Hawkins get hit maybe a little bit extra
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: than normal upon release of a ball or anything like that.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: They're going to just try to hit him.
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: Hit him, hit him. Get some flags.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: And these guys strike you. That's the thing that I
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: take away the last couple of times that we've played.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: They strike you defensively. They hit you so hard, balls
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: come out. So West Virginia has got to be completely
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: locked in, and they better be prepared to be the
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: hammer rather than the nail because these guys will put
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: you under the wood. Okay.
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: Super tough matchup, no question. I think your hope is
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: that all.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: Those situational advantages just turn themselves into pressure, is what
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: you hope. They have a lot of talk around that
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: program following that loss to Cincinnati. They've got some pressure
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: to try and play themselves into the college football playoff.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: You hang around and make this close or have the
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: lead going in late, and they start to get a
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: little tight. That's your flip side hope.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: 100%.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: That's your hope.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's not doable. What I'm saying is
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: you better be ready to punch him in the face
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: and then punch again and then punch again. Because if
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: you go in there soft in any iteration of not
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: being 100% ready to just absolutely brawl, you will get beat.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: You have to punch.
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: They have a good atmosphere there, too. Yeah. They have
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: a good atmosphere.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: It's gotten better.
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: It's gotten better since they've gotten better. Guess what?
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: Imagine that. The atmosphere gets better when you win games.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: Is that true? Is that right, Hoppy? Well, usually that
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: does follow. And they have one of the great traditions
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: in college football, that red rider.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: The horse?
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great tradition.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. That's a nice horse. Big black horse. Different
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: than the Florida State horse. Different kind of horse.
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: Well, they come storming out. They come riding. Like, it's
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: really good.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: We're big into live animals. I mean, Colorado's got that
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: big thing that runs up and down there.
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah. That'd be that Buffalo.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Coming up.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: You don't have great control of that Buffalo.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: No, it's always scary.
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: It is.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: It's always scary. Guys, hold on to that rope.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, frankly, the Buffalo, knowing that it needs to
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: go into the trailer, probably saves that thing because that
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: thing is just running amok.
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: It is.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: It's like Michael Hawkins in the defensive backfield there. You've
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: got no chance on that.
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: It's like Dwight Wallace loves to tell the story about
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: the time that the Buffalo missed the trailer.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: Dwight O.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: Well, don't tell that story because I've told my story
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: when I stood right next to it.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's right.
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: That's right.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: And got moved by security.
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: Excuse me, sir.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: Sir, you might not want to stand right there. That
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: would not be a good charge to take. That would
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: definitely be a block.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: If you do a little bit of it.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: I only moved like three feet over.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: Okay. Yeah, yeah.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: And then that thing comes storming down and it gets
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: in the straightaway and it's going right at that trailer.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, how does it know what to do? How
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: does it know?
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: I like the tutor's mug that doesn't know hot or cold.
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: How does it know?
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: How does the buffalo know to go in the trailer?
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: And it hits the back of the trailer hard.
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: I'm surprised it didn't come through the back of the trailer.
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: That thing's humping.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: You know, when you think about it, we do a
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: lot of stupid stuff with animals in college football. Oklahoma,
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: with that Sooner Schooner, that thing flipped over when we
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: were there that one time.
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: It did.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: Dwight Wallace always tells the story about the Bengal at LSU,
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: the tiger in the cage. I mean... What happens if
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: someone doesn't put that latch all the way down one day?
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: You got a problem.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: You got a hell of a problem.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: I got a little too close to that, too, when
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: we played LSU. Because it is kind of neat. That
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: thing comes out there. I've been gawking at it. They
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: wheel that thing around. But you're probably right. You probably
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: don't need to be right up in it.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: Live animals, over time, may go away at some point.
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: I don't know. They'll never get rid of that buffalo
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: or bison.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, it was cool.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. It was cool.
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: That is cool.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: But next time, when.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: We're playing Colorado, I'm going to watch that from the stands.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I always feel better upstairs.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're in a better spot.
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: I might be at that game next year.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: Huh?
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: Might be at that game.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: How do you say you might be at that game?
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: We don't even know if you're coming in next week
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: to do this show. How do you make them call
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: you to be at that game?
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: Took the words out of my mouth.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: Coming up, we're going to break down the West Virginia
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: Stetson basketball game. Three guys brought to us by GoMart.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: You know, good times are brewing at GoMart. All you
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: have to do is get the rewards app, download it
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: onto your phone, and get exclusive deals today. Member pricing
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: and get cents off at the pump because, hey, you're
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: already stopping in there. You might as well take the discount.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: Get the app. I finished up the book tour yesterday. Oh, yeah?
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: Where were you?
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: Down the road here. Oh, you had a home game?
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: Home game at Brookhaven.
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: How's that?
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: They got four first grade class. They have a beautiful library.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: Brought all four of their classes together.
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: At one time. Did you get nervous in front of
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: all those kids at once?
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: No, I was all right. Well behaved. And a lot
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: of the kids dressed up with Mountaineer gear.
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: Oh, very good.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: 67 jersey is a big jersey.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the year the university was established, right?
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: 67.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: You don't have to worry about transfer portal in that case.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: Exactly. 67 is a big year. And the young lady
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: has multiple cheerleading outfits on as well. But the school,
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: the principal, and the administration there, the teachers, and all
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: the folks from Mon County, they were fantastic. So all
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: the kids got their book, and we did a little
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: Q & A, and it was good.
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: Good for you.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: It was good. So that ends the tour. All first
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: graders in the state.
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: Any of those kids have phones for their GoMart rewards? No.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: No phones.
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: No phones.
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: So your book tour is over? $ 17, 000- plus.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: Books have been distributed to first graders in West Virginia.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: Congratulations to you and GoMart, Tony. Yeah, it was good.
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: It was a fun thing.
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: When's the movie?
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: No movie, but I do say this. After going into
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: the six different schools, we have got to give heaps
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: of praise to our educators. They do, and they work,
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: and they try, and they have challenges that teachers... and
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: administrators didn't have when we went to school.
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: No kidding.
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: And it is a weird world, and I'm not going
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: to go, because this is an agnostic politics show, but
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: the world around them is swirling, and it's a bad
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: world right now, and they better get some things fixed.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: I learned some things there. I went like, what?
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: Teachers will tell you stories that will make the hair
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: on the back of your neck come up.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: And those folks just work and work. So that was
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: a really fun thing. Really fun thing.
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: Good for you. I'm sure it brightened their day.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great to see. I love little sparkies. Little
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: sparkies are funny. They're cute. Yeah, they are.
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: They're just little people.
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: Little human beings.
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: You look at them and you say, okay, what's that
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: going to grow up? What are they going to look like?
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: It's just funny. Yeah. It's fun. It was good. All right.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: Let's go. Do basketball. WVU and the Hatters of Stetson. Yeah.
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: Hoppy mentioned it earlier.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: A team coming in playing its third game this week
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: has lost to Clemson and to South Carolina already this week.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: So Not a lot from a number perspective on this
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: because you're just still so early in the season. Colin
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: Coole is the guy you'll watch for them. He's the
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: preseason player of the year in the A-Sun. Very talented player.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: That's kind of the main point of matchups in this
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: particular game. Some numbers from West Virginia's first game that
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: we didn't go over last week. West Virginia sits number
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: two nationally in points per possession from the pick-and-roll ball handler.
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: Really elite.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: The other day, but here's what's interesting. It's not just Miles,
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: who you would expect, but Finley Bizjak was tremendous in that.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: We pointed out during the game and then after the game, Hoppy,
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: how aggressive he got to the basket. A lot of
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: that was off the pick and roll with him keeping it.
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: He's just active.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: He does not take a second off. When he's out there,
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: he goes. Brennan Lorien, I got deep into some B-low
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: numbers the other day. This is, again, one game, but
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: it's something to keep an eye on from the position
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: he plays. Bilo was 9 of 27 last year on
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: corner threes, 33%. Four of his five three-point attempts against
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: Niagara were from the corner. So that's where he's going
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: to be based on this offense. And he had a
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: nice day with it. Hit two of three against Niagara
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: from the corner. So his best spot last season was
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: top of the key, so he gets a little of
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: those on a pick-and-pop off a screen or in the corner.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: So watch Bilo when it comes to that. We mentioned on.
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: When did we do the review? I don't even know
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: what day today is.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: Whenever we did the Niagara review, we said how odd
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: that was. First time in school history you've gone zero
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: offensive rebounds for the opponent in a game. They also
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: made zero free throws. What was that stat from Jeff Borzello?
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: Never.
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: Never before. They couldn't find anything in any database where
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: a team had done that. Zero offensive rebounds and zero
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: made free throws in a game. So it goes back
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: however long that stat head group was keeping track of
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: They couldn't find an example of that happening.
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: Pretty crazy. Were they not at that end of the court? Well,
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: it was.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: Just a team that didn't have any opportunity to get
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: to the basket. They were very perimeter-based, couldn't get any
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: shots at the rim.
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: So there you go. There's a little mini Stetson preview.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: That goes at 7. And then next week, West Virginia
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: plays the Bears of Mercer next Thursday. And so that'll
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: put three games into your pocket. And then you go
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: to Vegas and you will play three games in three days, Tuesday, Wednesday,
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: Thursday of the following week, starting with Auburn. And then
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: you could have the mini Big 12 Conference November tournament
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: with potentially seeing Kansas and Houston.
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: My goodness.
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: Florida's also there.
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: Big time event. Some challenges.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: Notre Dame is there. Rutgers is there.
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: Rutgers, they are.
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: Auburn tipped off last night, had its season debut against
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: Southeast Louisiana. They've got a couple big boys in the
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: middle as well. That'd be a lot of seven-footers in
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: that game for West Virginia against Auburn.
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: Where do they play those in Vegas?
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: We're at... It's not T-Mobile.
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: No, it is not.
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: It's MGM. Is it MGM?
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: No.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: It's inside Mandalay Bay.
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: That might be right. Is that right? Inside Mandalay Bay?
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: Inside Mandalay Bay, whatever they have that thing as. I mean,
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: you're in Vegas... Every hotel's got an 18,000-seat stadium. That's correct.
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: Should play inside the– what's the big globe?
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, inside the Sphere.
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: Play inside the Sphere. That'd be cool.
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: He didn't want to go last time. I want to
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: go see Wizard of Oz.
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. You definitely should. Well, you know who saw it?
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: Big Jim and Michelle saw it.
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah?
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: They were out there, and they saw it. They said
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: it was worth it, right? I'm sure it's wild.
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: Why don't you want to go?
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: I don't remember saying I didn't want to go.
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: When we walked by it every morning, I'd say Wizard
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: of Oz, and you guys, man.
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: We had film. You get scared by the monkeys. Got
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: to watch film.
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: You know what's funny about the Sphere? We get up
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: early and we walk. We've got a bagel shop there
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: that we go to. It was awesome. Coffee, donuts. So
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: when you walk by the Sphere in the morning, it's
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: got a smiley face, but its eyes are closed because
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: it's still sleeping. And then when you walk by a
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: little bit later on, It's waking up.
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: It's a little bit creepy, actually.
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: Oh, it does some creepy stuff. Makes it into a
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: huge basketball. It's just.
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: It is pretty cool. It's a wow. Yeah, you should
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: see Wizard of Oz.
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: I think so. So it's a cut-down version of it.
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: It only lasts like 70 minutes.
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: But also, do you get sick because there's a motion
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: thing associated with it?
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: I'll drop some medicine. Take some medicine. Do that thing.
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: Got a lot of games. I don't know if we
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: can get that.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: That's the thing. But here's the bizarre nature.
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: Business trip. You do you. Business trip. You do you.
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: Here's the bizarre nature. And I talked to someone that
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: played in the Player Zero last year. It's a bizarre tournament.
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: Why? It is AAU-esque.
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Because there's just games all the time.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: No, you don't know who you're playing.
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: You'll get off the floor. So West Virginia plays at
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: midnight Eastern time. So it's 9 o'clock in Vegas. You'll
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: get off the floor at 11, 15, 11. You're out
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: of the gym at midnight. You will play the next day.
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: But you don't know who you're going to play. Until
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: the day, that day, I mean, you'll know before Westford,
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: you will know when we play, because we play the
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: last game of the day, who we're playing the next day.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: But you have no, you have to prepare for two
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: different teams. Is that what they do? They prepare for, yeah,
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: they double prepare. They've got scouts for everybody that they
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: potentially could play. They'll have that done. But it's a
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: quick turnaround, man. Like you're not walking through a lot
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: of stuff. It goes counter to everything you have been
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: doing now. Like they spent a ton of time walking
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: through for Maryland. They did the same thing for Niagara.
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: They'll do the same thing for Stetson and Mercer. And
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, you'll prepare for Auburn. And
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: then the next day, your preparation of walking through stuff,
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: whoever it might be, it's probably going to be Kansas.
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: It's like, okay, guys, bing, bing, bing. Let's go.
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: They do have it better this year than last year.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: So some of that last year was there weren't these
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: brackets set up. They were literally assigning opponents at midnight. Like, OK,
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: based on goal differential, it was like point scored, point differential.
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: OK, now you're playing you. And yet some teams had
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: a few hours before they knew what their opponent was.
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: So they've fixed that a little bit. Now it's just
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: more almost like a regular tournament setting. But yeah, it
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: was a little different last year.
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: Well, I guess, but everybody's dealing with the same thing.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: Absolutely. Sure. Oh, there's no question. Yeah. Well, it'll be fun.
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: What's that, Hoover Dam out there? Yeah, Hoover Dam. I mean,
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: it's a few hours away. One of the other things
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: I'm going to do is go to Hoover Dam. High
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: probability that a Lou Wendell pontoon is going to be.
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: In the Colorado River? In the Colorado River. Lou Wendell
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: Marine Sales happens to be the largest pontoon boat dealer
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: in the state of West Virginia. Family owned for four decades.
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: Continues to win awards for service by the folks down
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: in the Kanawha Valley. Lewendell recognized as one of the
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: state's premier pontoon boat dealers. They sell Avalon pontoon boats,
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: manufactured 100% of the United States, and the only Honda
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: Marine premium dealer in our state of West Virginia, really.
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: What a November. We've started this thing off. I know
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: it's going to get chillier right now, but we've been
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: stealing days, man, like stealing days.
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: It's been wonderful.
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: It's absolutely perfect. Let's do some textual healing, shall we?
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: That's your opportunity to text us at 304-404-4083, 304-404-4083. And
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: we get comments. We get all kinds of stuff.
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: Suggestions, criticisms, observations.
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: So that's coming up. Brought to us by WVU Medicine,
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  Speaker 2: contact them, wvmedicine.org, wvmedicine.org. I come to you with joy.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: Members of the congregation, I come to you with joy.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: We record Thursday morning, 7 p.m. this evening on the
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: 5th of November, We are debuting our Christmas carousel on
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: our website, which is episode800. com. Episode800. com. Here's what you got.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: The joyful theme is this year's theme. It's a three
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: guys joyful Christmas. And if you're a regular, you'll know
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: because you know Hoppy found joy when we were at
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: the College World Series in Omaha in June. And here's
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: what we're going to have for you on the site
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: this year. We will be doing our world-famous combination of
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: Mountaineer Roasting coffee beans and Ben Cutter's mom's oatmeal cream
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: pie cookies.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: She has a name. Jen.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: Jen. Jen Cutter. But it's Cutter's Cookies.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: World-renowned.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: Award-winning. So you'll get a package of those. That's how
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: it'll kind of look in your house. Hope and joy.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: And you're having the oatmeal cream pies.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: Mountains in the background.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: And the game day roast.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: Fire's going.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: Coffee from Mountain Roasting. There are going to be a limited,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: in all seriousness now, going to be a limited number
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: of those oatmeal cream pies. So put your order in
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: pretty much. You need this in by December 11 in
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: order for us to get it to you fresh, beautiful,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: and just. Awesome.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: Tony, you know how sometimes when people are selling things,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: they say there's a limited amount. This is limited. But
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: they're just making that up. In this case, there is
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: a limited amount.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: She can only bake so much because these are made
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: with tender, loving care.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: Those aren't good with your coffee. Oh, my.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: That is a good pairing.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: Also, the Mountaineer Munch popcorn is coming back. There it is.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: That is so doggone good. It is addictive. And that's
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: from the Mountaineer Popcorn folks out in the Martinsburg area.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: We are the ones that got that fish sign taken
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: off of that building that time. One of the great
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: moves we made in getting that stupid fish sign. They
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: wouldn't take the fish sign down after they went in
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: that new building in Martinsburg. We said, take the old
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: fish store down. So now there's a Mountaineer Popcorn sign.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: Well, your testimony before the Board of Zoning Appeals.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: Thank you. Thank you very much. Also, the Game Day
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: Grind coffee. The Mountaineer, that is really, really good.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: Really, really good.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: My son, Mike, Matthew, that's the one, Matthew, he's been
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: in town. He'd been pounding that Game Day Grand.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: Making it there at home, or has he been going
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: over to see Rusty?
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: No, no, we buy it by the bulk, and he said,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: I guess there's three flavors in it. Chocolate, something, and something.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: It was, which one are you of these three? I said,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Probably, I don't know which one I was,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: but anyway. And the Cole hymn is back. Speaking of
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: Matthew Caridi, his design on this outline, it is a
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: Venetian black marble plaster. And as you can see, it's really,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: really neat. It's the outline of the state of West Virginia,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: and the way the light hits it depends. It gives
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: it a whole different look. You could be walking from
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: one side of your house or wherever it's posted, and
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: it kind of changes. So that's really, really neat. They're
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: all available starting 7 o'clock tonight, 5th of November, at episode800. com.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: And next week, we'll talk about the apparel and show
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: you guys how we're trying to help other small West
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: Virginia businesses.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: Businesses so tonight november 5 7 p.m is when it
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: tips off yes that's what you're saying.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: And a limited supply on the oatmeal cream pies those
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: will go quick because people have been gobbling those oh
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: my um during football season and so i think a
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: lot of the regulars are going to absolutely scoff them
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: and so do it.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: And props to homeless and to jen for putting that
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: together after it was wildly suggested by somebody on this
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: program that it would be a great idea to do this.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: Probably irresponsibly suggested. So there was just an idea in
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: the ether, and then there was execution by others.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: Once again, you attack the futurist. You attack the futurist.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: Now I know how probably Alexander Graham Bell felt. How
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: the Wright brothers felt when people scoffed at them, saying,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: we're going to fly this thing.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: That's a good point.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: The idea to sell cookies that have been wildly successful
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: at the holiday season was one of your all-time great
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: genius ideas.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: Never been thought of before. That was very similar to
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: coming up with the flying aircraft.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: Very similar. Well done.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: Extremely well done. You know what's going to work? Those
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: cookies that we've sold out every time in time.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: I don't know, Brad.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: Why don't we put those on for the holiday season?
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: Well, we've never been done before.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: Never been done before. Very well done, Tony.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: Congratulations on a tremendous idea.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: Unique idea.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: They've got a think tank going on over here. High-level
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: think tank.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: Incorrect reporting by you. I didn't say sell the cookies.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: I said marry the cookies with the coffee together. You
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: guys attacked me. We can go back and watch.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: What are you doing?
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: What are you doing?
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: You can't say that. Putting something with cough? Oh, my gosh.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: That's a good one, man. Hey, why don't you come
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: up with the three guys champagne for New Year's?
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: She's baking those in Morgantown.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: Is she? Where's she baking them?
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: Do you know?
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: Over at Rev Kev's or something?
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: I'm out here roasting. Oh, really? Got a big deck oven.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: Talk about business helping business. Business helping business.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: I'm going over.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: Oh, what are you going to do?
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: I'm going to watch.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: I'm sure that's a big help.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: Well, you were invited, too. I mean, he says that
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: like he's the only one that can go over. You
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: were invited, as well.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: I didn't know. We're all invited? Yes.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: You won't show.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: How do you know I won't show?
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: You'll have a cold or something.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: Well, if I have a cold, I'm not going to go.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: Well, we've heard that. We've seen that happen. Text line.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: First one, just three, five, five, several words. Hoppy for
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: Big 12 commissioner. Would you take the job?
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: You are retired. Semi-retired. The first thing I do. Oh, yeah.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: Straighten out this time zone thing. Good luck. Yeah.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: Texter, Kyle from Morgantown writes.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: Oh, we get Hawaii in the league.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're good. Kyle from Morgantown writes in, the only
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: person that gets junior used more than Daxter Miles Jr.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: is Andrew Caridi.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: Who will be handling the play-by-play of the Stetson game
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: Friday night. Yeah.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: And he's not a junior, obviously. But we call him junior.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know where that started. You started it. Yeah,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: I started junior.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: You know, what's interesting about that is that he's your
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: and Joan's son, obviously.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: Is that thanks for reporting that obvious observations.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: We are having a heck of a show. Sell cookies
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: at Christmas and Andrew is Tony's son.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: Go on, move on.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: What were you going to say?
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: Well, I was going to say that he's a combination
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: that looks like both of you. But his person, like
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: you are, you're just wired and you're like a go-off
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: and you're just out there all the time. He's just
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: the most measured... cool as a cucumber guy I've never
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: just he gets a little excited on WV baseball sometimes
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: but I mean he's just.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: Cool he's quite unflappable yeah he's the anti-me oh and
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: by the way what you can stop right there what
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: what talking about explosions I mean I remember when my
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: desk used to be above the studio during your talk
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: line days and I would just like where is that
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: sound coming from and then I would listen closer and
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: it was you just going off in an empty room
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: it's screaming.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: I need to i need to work on that what
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: do you mean.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: You i think you've taken away you probably don't do
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: that anymore do you you don't.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: Do the show do you really yeah sometimes it's not.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: I guess what hop at your age it ain't going
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: away it ain't going away dude it hasn't changed by
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: now yeah kind of like me and my over reading
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: brad that's not going to go away um brett from
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: pineville who he puts out, we know it's in Wyoming.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: You don't need to put Wyoming County. I mean, I
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: know Pineville's in Wyoming County, Mullins Metroplex. I had an
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: awesome encounter at work today while on my afternoon break,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: UPS shows up with our packages. I noticed the guy
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: walked in with, was a massive human being. When he
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: turned and looked at me, I had to double check
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: myself because it was none other than old number 35,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: Owen Schmidt.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: There you go.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: I've got a picture with him as a kid. and
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: hope he returns with more packages so I can maybe
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: sneak in a photo. What a Mountaineer legend he is.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: Owen will take your picture. He'll get your picture made
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: with you.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: Sure he will. And when he delivers the package, it
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: just runs right through the door. He doesn't have to
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: open it.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: Texter, check out this end zone luxury at the Miami
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: of Ohio game this past Tuesday. night. Look at that.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: See that, guys, in the back? A Lou Wendell pontoon
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: in the end zone.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: How about that? There it is. I like that.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: Welcome to Yeager Stadium and a pontoon from Lou Wendell
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: Marine Sales in the end zone.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: Awesome. That's funny.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: Here we go.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: About 34 minutes into the last podcast, Brad said freshmen
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: were not allowed to play varsity sports back in the day.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: The NCAA made an exception for small schools like William
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: & Mary. Jeff Cohen played against WVU 12 times in
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: four seasons. In his last game against WVU, Cohen scored
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: 38 points as William & Mary beat WVU in the
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: Southern Conference semifinal. That's from Jim Dandy in Rocky Top.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: Good history there.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: Here's what I don't understand.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: What?
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: If the dude played four seasons, and you're saying Jeff
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: Cohen played 12 games, are you telling me that WVU
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: played William & Mary three times each year four consecutive years?
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: That means you would have to run into them in
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: the tournament four straight years. How's that?
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: Meanwhile... You looking that up? You got to go to
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: WVU stats, then look up William and Mary opponents, then
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: go William and Mary opponents, and then look back.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: That's a lot of work.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: All right, forget it. Texter, hi, guys. As we continue
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: to watch Miles Sadler, I just wanted to say this.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: He's fast.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: I'd never dreamed I'd see a ball handler faster than
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: Juwan Staten. So excited for the season. Hashtag Sadler is fast.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: Hoppy, you were here when Greg Jones played.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: I was.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: Similar speed.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 3: Similar. Greg Jones could get to the basket, yes.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: Hi, three guys. Professor Vinny here. I want to clue
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: you into an event that only happens once or twice
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: in a lifetime. As a fan of Mountaineer basketball and football,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: as well as the Pittsburgh pro teams, we have the
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: occurrence of unprecedented proportions, something I'm dubbing Sports Armageddon Friday,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: 27th of November, the day after Thanksgiving, so Black Friday.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: WVU football, WVU basketball, the Steelers and the Penguins all play.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: I already told the wife, don't bother with planning anything
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: that day except for me glued to the couch. A
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: lot of things going on.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: Big day. Really?
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: Lots of stuff. This is a pretty wild one. Let
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: me cough. God dang. I mean, we need WVU medicine
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: in here for the three of us.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 3: I think so.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: You've been the least hacky today, but Junior over here Sparky.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: You've been coughing, hacking, bringing up things. Me? You. You
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: don't want to go replay review how many times you
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: coughed today.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: Fall allergies.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: Huh?
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: Fall allergies.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: I slept with my window open last night because it
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: was so hot.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: I had to get some air caused.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: There you go. See, you got all kinds of mold.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: You got all kinds of mold spores now just living
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: in your lungs. I had to cool the house down.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: Didn't want to put the air on for one day. Cheap.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: So you... Do you have the screen in?
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Screen guy. Think about what you just did, dude.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: You had your screen open in November.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: That's pretty good. This was neat. Three guys. This is
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: Sean in Morgantown. Attaches the picture I sent from my
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: very first text during the winter of 2025. There he is. Dad.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: Sean on the right.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: My son Micah and I just finished a snowy 10-mile
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: run together. During this run, we ran in silence. Because
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: we had to catch up on the latest Three Guys
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: Before the Game podcast.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: Of course you did.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: Fast forward two years, and Micah, now a junior, has
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: just won his second World's Championship hoppy and cross country
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: from University High.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: Look at him, Hop. Congratulations.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: There he goes.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: He's got some long limbs.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: He's elite. Big Three Guys elite.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: The reason for this text is to share that we
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: are both still Live and avid listeners, and to thank
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: Tony for a lunch recommendation. Look at that.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: There's Dad with the World's Championship.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: On a recent show, Tony shared his praise for bad,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: happy burritos and a hurricane. Upon completion of the cross-country
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: state meet at Cabell Midland, Micah's lunch voice had to
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: be Tony's recommendation. So it was lunch choice. We were
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: all pleased with the selection, even though I may not
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: get the opportunity to run with Micah quite as often.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: Since he's now able to drive, I'm happy to report
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: that I can still run with him when asked.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: Nice.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: Anyway, here are a couple of pictures and a proud dad.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: That's awesome.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: Well done.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: Micah's been listening for years. He's the latest in a
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: long line of university high distance runners that have been
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: just outstanding.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: It is crazy, man.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: Micah's next. One of the great St. Francis Middle School
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: runners of all time. One of the best the county's
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: ever seen. But he's been listening to us for a
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: long time, Micah has.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 3: Sean, of course, too.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: West Virginia, Morgantown and University. Man, they have put some
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: people at high level D1 track and field, both boys
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: and girls. Oregon and Syracuse.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: Drew Zundel.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: Drew Zundel's just kicking it. No pun intended.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: Friend of the show also, Drew. He was here when
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 3: he was a little guy. Oh, yeah. Little known fact
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 3: that running and listening to the podcast is motivational while
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: you're running.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: Thank you. Hey, guys. I listened to a sports talk
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: show today.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: Some people tell us they fall asleep while they're listening
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: before they go to bed.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: Which does happen. Or somebody says, turn that off.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: Hey, guys, listen to a sports talk show today. And
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: for a half an hour, they were discussing one topic.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: Is butter considered a condiment? I'd love to hear each
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: of your thoughts. Also, you have to consider, would hot
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: sauce be considered the same way? I thought about this.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 3: I'm sure you did. I'm sure you did.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: One guy's take. Butter is not a condiment. Butter is
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: a foundation culinary principle. That is akin to a fat base,
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: so you have to have fat when you cook. So
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: you would have to say that oil, olive oil, is
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: a condiment if you make butter a condiment. So I'm
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: saying no on that. However.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: What's a condiment? Consider a condiment. Like ketchup, mustard, something
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: you add. You put it on after. You put it
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: on to enhance the flavor. It's an enhancing.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: So if I have toast... If I have toast.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: And I spread butter on that.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 3: That would be using butter as a condiment, would it not? See,
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 3: I think you're right. I think you're right.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: I have pancakes or waffles, and I spread butter on
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: top of those. That would be using it as a condiment,
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: not in the cooking form that you're referring to. So
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: couldn't it go either direction there? It can be used
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: as a condiment?
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: Here's the research. If you're using it like you talked about, Tony,
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: to cook, it's not a condiment. But in Brad's example,
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: if you use it to spread on something, it could
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 3: be considered a condiment. Thank you. That's the research I
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  Speaker 3: did very quickly. Now, you're the cook guy. What do
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  Speaker 3: you say?
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  Speaker 2: Well, no, I think I'm open to that, but I
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  Speaker 2: would lean to Chef Paul. Chef Paul Smith breaks all
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  Speaker 2: culinary discussion. I'd say, Paul, what do you say?
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  Speaker 3: You're going to ask him?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I might text him today. I might text him.
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  Speaker 3: If you put butter on a baked potato or corn,
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  Speaker 3: Or many things.
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  Speaker 2: Many things.
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  Speaker 3: There's a reasonable argument you could call it.
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  Speaker 2: Agreed. That's a good one. What about hot sauce? That's
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  Speaker 2: a no-brainer, right?
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  Speaker 3: It is. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Hot sauce would be a condiment.
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  Speaker 2: Sure.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Jam. Jelly. Apple.
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  Speaker 2: Marmalade.
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  Speaker 3: Preserved. Jellies.
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  Speaker 2: Get yourself a big thing of orange marmalade. Some gelatin.
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  Speaker 3: Let's hit the music. We're done here.
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  Speaker 2: Shout out.
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  Speaker 3: Cream cheese.
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  Speaker 2: Tomorrow, the 6th of November, Charles Wesley Godwin will be
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  Speaker 2: performing in Charleston. And I'm sure a lot of our
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  Speaker 2: folks will. will be in attendance there. He'll do a
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  Speaker 2: great job.
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  Speaker 1: He's in scooting over to Kentucky after that for a
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  Speaker 1: Saturday show. There's some question on whether his set will
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: be done before the Mountaineers kick off.
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  Speaker 2: I listened to that last night, and you guys were
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  Speaker 2: discussing that. I talked to him. I was with him Saturday.
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  Speaker 2: He says he normally comes off stage 11.05. Wow, he's
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  Speaker 2: got it down like that.
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  Speaker 1: So that'll be shortly after kickoff.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. About 11.05.
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  Speaker 3: But he'll still have a long wait for the Auburn
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  Speaker 3: basketball game.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no.
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  Speaker 3: Seriously, if Charles performs.
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  Speaker 2: Come on, do a couple.
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  Speaker 1: Encore performances for that game.
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  Speaker 2: If Charles is working the night of our Auburn basketball game,
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  Speaker 2: he will be able to go back into the thing,
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  Speaker 2: get his shower. I hit him with a bunch of questions.
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  Speaker 2: You would have loved it the other day. I said, okay, Charles,
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  Speaker 2: break down. We're on the road.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I'd love to hear this.
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  Speaker 2: He got the bus. Like, what's the whole plan?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And so it's down to, like, a science.
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  Speaker 1: Now, he's still got that fancy coffee machine, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yes. And his thing is, I have, what he wants,
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  Speaker 2: his goal is to, comes off stage, is shower, change, eat.
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  Speaker 2: He wants to be asleep before the bus rolls.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: That's the key. That's the key. He needs to be asleep.
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  Speaker 2: before the bus starts to roll down the road, and
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: they travel all night, and they'll get to wherever they're
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: going like 7 or 8 in the morning. So he
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: flies to the first stop of a tour.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: We're down the road multiple nights. So he'll fly there,
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: and then he does the bus after. that. That's tough.
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  Speaker 3: He's with all the boys.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: So you've got to shower when Shania wakes up. Then
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: you've got to eat and then go right to sleep?
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: But how do you do that? I mean, aren't you
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 3: just all hopped up after a performance?
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  Speaker 2: Well, he said yes and no. He says, I mean,
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: let's be honest with you, it's kind of like.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, Drew, now he's got it. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Ben there done that. And there's different buses. Like,
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: there's one that has, like, can sleep, like, 10, 15
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: people in bunks. And then there's one when he's with
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: the family. He's got the full king in the back.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: That's got the first floor master. First floor master.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So it's really interesting.
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  Speaker 3: I'd love to pick his brain.
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  Speaker 2: Ask him about the rider. Like, what do you guys
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  Speaker 2: ask for?
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  Speaker 3: He should start putting game day grind in there for
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  Speaker 3: his rider.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, he drinks a great... Oh, yeah, he brings.
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  Speaker 1: I know, I know he's a big drinker of it, yeah.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, he brings that stuff in there. Yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he loves good coffee. Like, he's got places, like, he
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: just knows. Like, when he goes to a certain city, like,
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: he knows his coffee.
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  Speaker 3: You know, he's at a good place because he's having
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 3: tremendous success in selling out, you know, venues. But he
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 3: can get up and go into the coffee shop and
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 3: not be bothered, probably, right?
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly right.
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  Speaker 3: So that's a good place to be.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: I think, seriously... He can come to Morgantown and go
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: to Mountaineer Roasting, which he does all the time, and
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: have his coffee. And we've been in there.
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  Speaker 3: Just say hi to him.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: Hey, what's up, what's up? And that's it. And he
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: said if he sat down in Nashville, can't do it.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 3: Oh, really? No, can't do it.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: He's known. He's known there.
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  Speaker 3: I ran into him at the tax office. Well, we
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 3: know that.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: That was great. I mean, after those seven years you
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: didn't pay your taxes to get in there and get
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: those slips taken care of.
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  Speaker 3: A1.
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  Speaker 2: All right, we haven't talked about this, but I'm going
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: to go Monday morning for the next one.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 3: Oh, I thought we said Sunday afternoon.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: No, I don't want to do Sunday afternoon. I want
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: it Monday morning.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 3: Well, you're the one that offered that out.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: I know, but then I thought I'm getting home at 6.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: You guys are good for Monday morning?
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fine. Sure.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: Okay, we're going to do Monday morning. And then what's
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: after that?
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: Don't know.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: Maybe Friday next week because we got Mercer on Thursday. Yeah.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: So we're going to go Monday, Friday next week.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 3: Then it gets weird.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: Then it gets really weird. Hoppy's going to have to
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: do the show by himself. You're going to turn the
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: show on. Hoppy's going to be here like this and go.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: In political circles.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 3: Let's go over those election results once again.
• 1:21:16
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• 1:21:20
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