Latest / Becker’s Healthcare - Clinical Leadership Podcast / Dr. Tanvir S. Sahsi, Chief of Neurosurgery Administration at Mount Sinai Queens
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- 1:16This is Laura Dirda with the Becker's Healthcare
- 1:18podcast.
- 1:19I'm thrilled today to be joined by doctor
- 1:20Tanvir Sasse,
- 1:21chief of neurosurgery administration at Mount Sinai, Queens.
- 1:25Doctor Sasse, it's a pleasure to have you
- 1:27on the podcast today.
- 1:29Thank you so much for having me, Laura.
- 1:30It's a pleasure to hear.
- 1:33Now I know we've got a lot to
- 1:34talk about, but before we dive into our
- 1:36broader conversation
- 1:38and, you know, discuss some of the things
- 1:39that you're doing at Mount Sinai, Queens, I
- 1:41I would love to have you introduce yourself
- 1:43and tell us a little bit about your
- 1:45background.
- 1:46Absolutely.
- 1:47So my name is Tamir Sharsi. I'm a
- 1:50primary care physician by training.
- 1:52I do a practice.
- 1:54I started my career back in India as
- 1:56a as a primary care physician.
- 1:58Moved to the the business of medicine 15
- 2:00years ago. Back and take care of my
- 2:02father's hospital back in India, but I never
- 2:04ended up going there.
- 2:06He still hates me for that.
- 2:07So I started my administrative career
- 2:10as a as a administrative resident at New
- 2:12York Hospital in Queens, now the New York
- 2:14Presbyterian Queens and New York City.
- 2:17Worked through the ranks there, became a practice
- 2:19manager, then moved over to Emory,
- 2:22ran the OBGYN,
- 2:24a program for the entire health system at
- 2:25Emory Healthcare.
- 2:27Came back to Sinai to run the operations,
- 2:30for the for the department of neurosurgery.
- 2:32Continue to, you know, climb through the ranks.
- 2:35Now I oversee
- 2:37the entire spectrum of neurosurgical,
- 2:40programs at at all the hospitals at Mount
- 2:42Sinai.
- 2:44I also oversee, you know, the entire administrative
- 2:47spectrum of of Mount Sinai Queens. That's a
- 2:49newer program which we started, like, a few
- 2:51years ago.
- 2:53So starting from soup to nuts, you know,
- 2:55on figuring out how many physicians do we
- 2:57need, how many
- 2:59inpatient best do we use, What sort of
- 3:01staffing do we need, you know, in the
- 3:02ICUs,
- 3:03in the OR, in the outpatient side to
- 3:05support the physician and the number of physician,
- 3:07how we grow them,
- 3:08how we can provide call coverage. You know?
- 3:10So we the goal was,
- 3:12on the eastern
- 3:14northeast and northwestern end of Queens,
- 3:17there wasn't, you know, a lot of neurosurgical
- 3:19presence. And Queens is like the population of
- 3:22Queens is 3,500,000
- 3:23people,
- 3:24and there weren't enough,
- 3:26clinicians
- 3:26who will provide spine and brain care to
- 3:29the entire, you know, population of, of the
- 3:31Queensborough.
- 3:33So that's was the main reason to start
- 3:35over in press wrapped up our volume.
- 3:37We are doing most of our cases that
- 3:39come in Queens and Mount Sinai Queens Hospital.
- 3:42We have recruited another physician who's starting in
- 3:45in 2 months. So the plan is to
- 3:46continue,
- 3:48to have growth in Queen.
- 3:53But along with it's not just Queen's. We
- 3:55want to, you know, capture the other areas
- 3:57as well. So in the last 4 years
- 3:59or so at Mount Sinai Health System and
- 4:01Neurosurgery, we have expanded at 11 new sites.
- 4:04Post COVID, our volume has gone up by
- 4:0627%.
- 4:10We have now become the 2nd top 5,
- 4:13high volume academic programs in the country.
- 4:16We are one of the top 10 neurosurgical
- 4:18programs in the world.
- 4:20So, you know, we have lot of world
- 4:22class physicians, and the goal for me is
- 4:25to provide
- 4:26my chairman, my physician leaders, my all other
- 4:29physicians
- 4:30the top notch, you know, support, be it
- 4:33equipment in the OR, be it equipment in
- 4:35the outpatient
- 4:36side, be it the staffing, the clinic clinicians,
- 4:40the outpatient staff. I want them to provide
- 4:43all possible resources at Mount Sinai that I
- 4:45can.
- 4:46So that's the ultimate goal, and we've been
- 4:47fairly successful in doing so in the last
- 4:49many years at Mount Sinai.
- 4:51That's great to hear and, you know, really
- 4:53cool that you've had such,
- 4:55positive results and move the needle in many
- 4:58different ways. From your perspective, what are some
- 5:00of the top priorities for you the rest
- 5:02of the year? What's top of mind and
- 5:03and what initiatives are you focusing most of
- 5:06your time on?
- 5:07Absolutely.
- 5:08I think it is is evolving. Right? And
- 5:10I live like soccer. The physicians are the
- 5:12center forward,
- 5:14and, you know, all the others, support team,
- 5:17right, be it the the advanced practice providers,
- 5:19the nurses, administrators,
- 5:22administrative staff.
- 5:23We are just the, you know, defenders, left
- 5:26wingers,
- 5:27you know, support team, right, to make sure
- 5:29that whatever we need to do,
- 5:31we do it the best for the patients.
- 5:33So that brings a lot of challenges. Right?
- 5:35And we live and work in Manhattan,
- 5:38probably one of the
- 5:39most competitive places in the world. Right? So
- 5:42we have to be competitively ahead of others.
- 5:43Right? You know, we have
- 5:45top notch hospital, NYU,
- 5:47Cornell, Columbia, Mount Sinai, Northwell.
- 5:50So
- 5:51for the next 6 months as well as
- 5:53going forward is how do we, stay competitively
- 5:56ahead. Right?
- 5:57How we can expand into the other territories
- 6:00where we haven't been, and maybe our competitors
- 6:02are also trying to go in there. One
- 6:04example would be, you know, Long Island. Like,
- 6:07it's a it's a large piece of land
- 6:09with 3,
- 6:11counties,
- 6:12approximately
- 6:137,000,000 people who live in there. There's not
- 6:15much health care that that is is is
- 6:17there
- 6:18that can provide top notch care.
- 6:20So NYU has expanded into their we have
- 6:23expanded,
- 6:24our footprint
- 6:26in in in Long Island. And for the
- 6:27next 6 months is to continue to stay
- 6:30competitively ahead,
- 6:32continue to expand our foot footprint and provide
- 6:34that level of care to the patient that
- 6:36we can and keep on brainstorming as to
- 6:38what we can do,
- 6:39with the focus on the long term, the
- 6:41growth, expansion,
- 6:43and providing the, you know, best possible care
- 6:45to the patients.
- 6:46That really makes a lot of sense. And,
- 6:48you know, it's great to hear that there's
- 6:50growth ahead. From your perspective, I wanna dig
- 6:53a little bit deeper. What programs and initiatives
- 6:55have been most needle moving for you in
- 6:57the last year or so?
- 7:00The main has been, I would say,
- 7:03growth of our pediatric neurosurgery program.
- 7:07It's it's a very niche category,
- 7:10And we have, you know, some of the
- 7:12top notch neurosurgeons
- 7:14in in in focusing pediatric neurosurgery
- 7:16in the world.
- 7:18However,
- 7:20you know, so in in in medicine, right,
- 7:23referrals come to physicians from the other physicians,
- 7:26and it becomes a habit. And you
- 7:28have been a physician, so I understand that
- 7:29very well. So if I'm referring a physician
- 7:32to, you know, one physician, it's hard for
- 7:35that specific physician or me to convince me
- 7:36that he or she is better than can
- 7:38provide better care to my patients than the
- 7:40physician I'm referring to. Right? So in pediatric
- 7:42intersurgery, that has been a major major
- 7:46pain point for us to see how we
- 7:48can break the habit of those physicians who
- 7:49are referring to others.
- 7:51And we know we have the best in
- 7:53the world. Right? But breaking that habit has
- 7:56been I mean, but it's it's starting to
- 7:58gain some traction, so hopefully,
- 8:00it'll pick up soon.
- 8:022nd needle moving point has been, now starting
- 8:05to expand in,
- 8:07Long Island. So those 2 have been
- 8:10quite a painful,
- 8:11areas, but I think the the analgesic is
- 8:14is working now. So we we should be
- 8:16fairly okay in the in the next 6
- 8:18months or so, and going forward it it
- 8:20should get much better.
- 8:22That's helpful to know and, you know, I
- 8:23appreciate you sharing with us. Now before we
- 8:26wrap up here, I'm wondering how are you
- 8:28thinking about growth and
- 8:30experience over the next few years, for your
- 8:32teams?
- 8:33What do you really see as being different
- 8:35over the next 2 to 3 years as
- 8:36health care continues to evolve? So we we
- 8:39will actively intervene, actively recruiting. The plan is
- 8:41to grow and and never stop. Right? Stagnation
- 8:43is boring, and we we don't like stagnation.
- 8:46So we have a few physicians who are
- 8:47starting, you know, as 1 when one physician
- 8:50started, another set of team that starts with
- 8:52the physician.
- 8:53So our goal is to,
- 8:55expand into Eastern Long Island,
- 8:58Northwestern New Jersey,
- 9:00north in New York, state. We are trying
- 9:01to
- 9:08use some creative,
- 9:09you know, methodologies in how we want to
- 9:11see our patients.
- 9:13So currently, all the patients are being seen
- 9:14by the physicians with some seen by the
- 9:16advanced practice providers.
- 9:18We are trying to shift that model that,
- 9:21you know, any patient that doesn't need to
- 9:23be seen by by the surgeon
- 9:25should be seen by the advanced practice provider.
- 9:27They filter the, they screen the patient out.
- 9:30They filter all the,
- 9:32requirements they need for the patient to be
- 9:34seen by the surgeon. What this will do
- 9:37and surgical patients, and we should be able
- 9:39to provide, you know, broader care
- 9:42to to a broader set of community versus,
- 9:45not having patients physicians focus on patients who
- 9:48really need their intervention,
- 9:50and and, you know, changing their lives. So
- 9:54those are a couple of the,
- 9:56the main things we are looking at.
- 9:58Got it. That's so helpful to know. Doctor
- 10:00Sassi, thank you so much for joining us
- 10:01on the podcast today. This has been such
- 10:03a fascinating discussion, and I look forward to
- 10:05connecting with you again soon.
- 10:07Pleasure is all mine. Thank you so much
- 10:08for having