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94. From Career Clarity to Side Business Strategy - How Clients Are Building Both · You're Overqualified Podcast - Career and Leadership Strategies for Women

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Hi, I'm Danny Tan, and if you are here, you are in the right
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place. Welcome to the Pivot and
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Promotion podcast where we say forget the rules because they
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weren't written for us. I'm Danny Tan, I'm your host as
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well as career and leadership coach and a proud advocate for
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redefining what success and leadership looks like.
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And here's what I know. You can lead at any level, you
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can pivot at any age, and you can make moves that feel right
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right for you. Whether you're climbing the
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perfect ladder, starting something completely new, or
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just figuring out your next step, I've got you covered with
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strategies, stories, and straight up inspiration.
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So let's make some moves. All righty.
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So let's go ahead and get started.
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Today we're talking about from career clarity to side business
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strategy, how clients are building both because you don't
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have to choose one or the other. And so we're going to talk about
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the strategies, the systems and the ways that I help my clients
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when it comes to just getting some clarity when it comes to
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their careers, as well as what it takes to build a side
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business a lot of the times at the same time.
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And so we'll go ahead and dive in.
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So the first part that I want to cover in today's session is when
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career clarity can spark a bigger vision, right?
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And so a lot of folks will come in and start coaching and
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they're like, OK, I want a better job.
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But what they end up realizing after like working together,
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doing some exercises, doing some exploration, is that the clarity
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often reveals they want something more.
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They want more freedom or more autonomy, creativity, more
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ownership. And So what it ends up showing
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is that while they're trying to figure out, sometimes they're
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like, what path do I want to do? Maybe they have a couple paths
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they want to explore. Maybe they have a path that
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they're on, but they're trying to figure out how to get to that
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next step. This really starts to uncover
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what their deeper desires are beyond just a title and beyond
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just salary. Of course, those things are
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super important, but it starts to show that there's a bigger
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vision underneath of what they really want when it comes to
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their freedom or their autonomy, their creativity, their
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ownership. And so this clarity, this
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clarity when it comes to their careers, it starts to create
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more space of what it is that they could potentially want.
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And when they start to see what their values are, a lot of the
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time entrepreneurship could potentially pop up and they're
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like, well, it's something that I always thought of or something
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that I've always considered, but not sure how to take the leap,
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how to take the jump or where to start.
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And so I think the thing that's really important when it comes
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to working together, just working in general on your
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clarity of what you want for your career is like I always
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have folks say, you know, make a priority checklist for yourself.
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What are the top 10 things you want out of this next thing,
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this next season of your life when it comes to your career
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now? Is it going to be title salary?
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Is it freedom? Is it flexibility?
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Is it the time that you can spend with whoever you can spend
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it with? Is it independence of your
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location, not having to worry, but requesting time off?
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I always ask those things because I always think of that
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priority checklist as like a filter of how it will align you,
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what it is with what it is that you actually want.
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Because sometimes we'll see different rules or job postings
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and we're like, this is what I want because it has like a shiny
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name of the company or this is what I want because it's a shiny
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salary. But the reality is when you look
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at our priority checklist, we're like, wait a minute, Does this
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actually sit with the filter of what I want for my life and
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what's for next? And so sometimes what ends up
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coming up are and as we start to explore with folks what their
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potential paths could be, they actually start to realize that
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starting a business has always been one of their trees, but
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they're not sure exactly where to start.
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So this is the Part 1 of like, what I would say is interesting
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about this experience is when you're getting clarity on your
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career, a big thing that will show up is actually what you
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want for your life. What is the vision for your
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life? What is the vision for yourself
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and what they may look like? And so I'm thinking about one
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client particular. She was like OK, I definitely
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want to I want to leave my my one tech job for a new job.
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I feel super burned down, doesn't feel aligned.
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I feel like my time is like constantly being checked and I'm
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constantly being monitored. And so for her, she was like, I
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just need to figure out what's the next best step if it's not
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going to be this job in tech, but I have any more.
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So the thing that was really interesting though, is that she
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thought that the solution would be like, just get a new job.
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When we were talking about the things that she really wanted to
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focus on, she's like, well, I want to help people.
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I want to give back. I want to have control over my
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location as well. I want to have the freedom and
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flexibility to travel while I'm doing all of this.
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And so listen, I personally understand because I am fully
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nomadic and I am traveling full time.
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So I understand what it's like to build a business
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simultaneously while in corporate.
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I built my business while I was AVP for two years doing that.
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I was also doing my coaching business.
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And then I went full time into my into my side business, just
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out of my main business. I've been on corporate for like
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I think a year and nine months now.
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So I understand what it's like to try to figure out, OK, like
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what do I want to do? What is my bigger vision?
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And so for her, her bigger vision was like she wanted to be
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in the Wellness space. She wanted to help people when
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it came to movement, to their bodies, when it came to their
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mental health. And so trying to figure out a
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space that did that, but also allowed her the flexibility and
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freedom to travel as she wanted. And so a big thing that we've
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kind of uncovered in her career clarity was that, you know, yes,
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it wasn't just about finding a new job that wasn't going to
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burn her out. She actually had a bigger vision
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for herself or her life where she wanted to have freedom,
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flexibility to travel, freedom to help people, how she wanted
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to help people and be able to build something for herself that
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utilizes a different, you know, skill set that she didn't get to
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tap into as much in her in her my last role.
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And so that was the biggest thing.
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And I personally can relate too, because I always do that for my
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vision for myself, like working in digital, working e-commerce.
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I always loved it, right? I loved building teams.
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I loved helping people, But I also really just wanted to build
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something where I had the freedom flexibility to travel,
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to spend time with my family, to visit my friends, to make new
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friends. And so how to have that.
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And I always knew that I wanted to help as many people as
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possible when it came to what it was they were doing in their
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lives. Like I myself and 1st Gen., I
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understand what it means to kind of not have a plan in front of
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you always when it comes to career, when it comes to what it
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is that we're doing with our lives, right?
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Because a lot of the times we're the first to do a lot of things.
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And so for me, it was like important to build a business
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that helps support that too. So I understand on many levels
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of one, of course, like helping my clients by doing that, but
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also for myself too. And so I'm curious for you if
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you're kind of like sitting in the wonder of like, I know that
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there's something next and there's something new that I
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want to do, but I'm not sure what it is.
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Do I need clarity on my career? Do I need clarity on a bigger
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vision for my life? The question that I would kind
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of ask you is like, what kind of work or impact would you like to
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create if you weren't worried about what other people might
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think, right. So what kind of work or impact
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would you want to create if you weren't worried about what
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people might think? And here's the reason why I
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asked that question is because a lot of the time we have like
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these little ideas, these little seeds of what it is that we want
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to do, but we're nervous to kind of explore them because maybe
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they are non traditional or they're unconventional.
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And so to take those steps feels kind of nerve wracking and like
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we're throwing out such a good thing.
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Like how could you throw out this big salary?
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How could you throw out this big, you know, name brand
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company? How could you throw out this big
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role for something that's non traditional or unconventional?
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And so it feels really scary. And so I'm curious for you if
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there's anything that you've been like noodling on because
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that's something probably to explore.
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And the next part I'm going to talk about is how you don't have
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to throw everything out in order to explore it.
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I think that's the big thing that comes up is like, hey, you
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know, I may want to start this side because it does not mean
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you have to burn everything down to start something new.
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And so that's why we're talking about our, our next section
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here. Like our Part 2 is building that
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side business without burning out and without burning
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everything down. Because I'll have folks who will
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come into coaching and once they start to percolate and realize,
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wait a minute, I do want to start this social media business
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or wait a minute, I do want to start this Pilates business or
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wait, I do want to, you know, start this Wellness brand.
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The thoughts that come up are like, OK, do I have to quit my
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entire career or my current job in order to make this happen?
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And the biggest thing I want to like reiterate is that you do
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not have to quit your job to start something on your own.
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And so you can start your side business while you're also so
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growing your career. I think a big thought will come
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up is OK, but if I'm spending energy and time on my side
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business, is that going to take away from my career and slow me
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down? I still want to move in my
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career. I have clients who have both,
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they have their careers, they want to keep moving through them
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and they also want to start their side business.
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But the biggest things that we talk about within coaching is
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the mindset shift is like we have this thought that we have
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to, it's all or nothing, you know, it has to be everything or
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not. It's like it's all or nothing.
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I have to give everything and all of my all to the thing that
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I'm doing or else I'm not doing it well.
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And I'm super curious if that's something that hit home for you.
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Who's saying that in your head? Like, who is that person?
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Like let's like talk to them and sit them down and take them out
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to tea. Because that's not true.
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You know, it's just not true. It's not true that you have to
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give all of yourself to one thing in order to be truly
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committed to it. That's not sustainable, right?
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Because then that means we'll be only deep dive focusing on one
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thing. So many of us are multi
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passionate, multi talented and multifaceted.
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And it's OK to be able to give yourself to different things
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that you that let you up and make you excited.
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And so I want to say like, kind of think about like where is
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that all or nothing mentality coming from?
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Who is telling you that has to be all or nothing if you were to
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like listen to it, Like what does that voice sound like?
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Who is that voice? Is it a family member?
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Is it a friend, right? And is that coming from a place
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of joy or is that coming from a place of survival?
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If you're giving everything and all to this one thing, what is
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the reason why? And is that a reason that you
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are OK with and comfortable with?
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Because for a lot of us who are women, women of color, first,
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second Gen. immigrants, the having to give it all comes
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typically from a place of like survival, having to feel safe,
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having to feel successful. And so there's absolutely
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nothing wrong with that. We honor that and we respect it.
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But also, is that something that's serving you right now in
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this current part of your life, in this current season of your
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life? And so just kind of witnessing
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that, understanding that it does not have to be all or nothing.
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You can build while you grow, yes, you can still grow within
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your career and build something as a side business both.
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And the ways to do that really, and this is something that comes
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hand in hand, is how you're creating guidelines for yourself
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so you don't drain your energy. And it's another way, a word for
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guidelines is boundaries. And so for a lot of folks,
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they'll be the thoughts that come up of, well, am I?
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I'm not fully in control of my time or my calendar or I have to
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help with this. I have to help with that.
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At the end of the day, for anything that you want to
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achieve in your life, you have to create some kind of guideline
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for yourself and respect for yourself in order to achieve
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what it is that you want. So I want you to think about
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like anytime you have had a goal that you wanted to achieve,
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something you wanted to pursue, what guardrails did you have to
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give yourself? So if it was taking this big
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exam that you had to pass, did you have to create guardrails
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for yourself of dedicating time every single week to focus on it
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and study on it? Did you have to find an
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accountability partner? Did you have to find an
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environment or a space that was conducive for you to study?
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You know, what were the things you needed for that?
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If you learned a new skill, like if you learned a new language,
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what did you need in order for that to happen?
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Do you have to have like a tutor or a teacher?
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Did you need to have certain workbooks?
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Did you have to have certain tools and resources to make that
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happen? So you have at some point in
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your life created guardrails, guidelines, or boundaries for
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yourself to learn a new skill or to develop something new.
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And so I always like to have a call back to you.
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What are those examples in your lifetime and what did you need
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for that to happen? Because that is a way that you
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can go ahead and implement what those potential strategies are
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for your business without burning out, right?
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And thinking about if all the times you've done that you've
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had to burn out, then what support systems do you
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potentially need to kind of help manage that and to take a peek
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into that, right? Because at the end of the day,
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we can't achieve something new for ourselves by being like the
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go to person for everybody else. And so when will enough be
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enough that you're ready to prioritize yourself and to make
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this happen? And so I think the other thing
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when it comes to how to build something without like burning
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everything down is how to test ideas.
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And so I think this is something that we're also not inherently
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taught. We're we're taught like you go
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for it, you go all in. We're taught that you do and you
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want to be successful. We taught that you want to do it
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and you don't want to fail. But we never are even taught
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like, Hey, why don't you just test it?
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Why don't you experiment it? You may test it and decide you
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don't like it. You may test it and decide you
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want to tweak it before you go big on it.
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And that's OK. I think we you need to become
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more comfortable with experimentation and just trying
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things out. And it doesn't mean that you are
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non committal and it doesn't mean that you can't make up your
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mind or your indecisive. Sometimes it's truly just about
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seeing what's out there to see how you want to pursue it and
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where you want to go with it. And so the thought that I have
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is I have one client who she is an amazing leader in her space
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within healthcare. And she actually, she came into
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coaching because she wanted to get a promotion.
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She got a promotion within her first month, amazing for her.
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And then the biggest thing she started to realize was like,
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wait a minute, I want more. I want more than just a
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promotion of my current role. But I'm not sure what that looks
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like. Is that being consultant?
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Is that starting a business? Well, I like that.
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How do I even start? And so all these questions will
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start to come up and that makes complete sense.
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You know, it's like not that you're not happy with what
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you've achieved so far, but maybe there is like a next
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threshold of how you want to challenge yourself or a next
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threshold of how you want to step into this expanded version
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of your identity and you know that you're ready for something
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else. And so the biggest conversation
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that we had had was it's not just about saying like, let me
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have the perfect name and the perfect LLC and the perfect
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services and the perfect website and all these offering.
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It's like, hey, you love your job right now.
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You love what it is that you're doing.
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Why don't we just do some tests to understand what you could
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potentially pursue when it comes to building a side business and
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knowing that it doesn't have to be all or nothing.
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So in the sense of we don't have to say that today.
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If you start your business, you have to consistently have a
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client come in every single month.
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That's not the case. We could say that you could test
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out doing a project with one client and see what you like and
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what you don't like and decide what you want to do from there.
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And that is how we start to just plant the seeds of building a
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business for you without having to go all in.
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And so knowing that, you could decide, OK, I'm going to take
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one client on for the fourth quarter and then I might take
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another Q1 off because I'm going to be doing family stuff.
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And then I'll take another project on Q2 and then see what
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you like and we'll go back and reflect on what you love, what
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versus what you didn't love. There's also so many different
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ways to get started. I think a big question that was
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coming up was like, well, what should my name be and how should
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I form an LLC? And there's so much more into
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that. Like actually, you could start
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as a sole proprietor underneath your your social number.
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You don't have to necessarily start underneath an LLC unless
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there's certain limited liability protection that you
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want to have out the gate. But if you're starting with like
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1 project, it's OK just to test and to see.
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And so us talking about what that action plan looks like of
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identifying what kind of work you want to do, identifying what
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the scope would be, identifying who it is you want to target.
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I'm starting to build that out. And it feels nice because it's
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like a nice little project where you get to test out, you know,
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who you want to serve, how you want to serve them.
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And I ultimately think that the skill of sales and the skill of
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being able to talk about your, your services, your value and
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your experience is like the ultimate test.
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Entrepreneurship is a huge test when it comes to our visibility,
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our comfortability of being able to speak about ourselves and our
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skill sets. And so I said to her, I said to
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her, no matter where the chips fall, whether you decide to
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pursue it or you only do 1 project and let it go, at least
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you've done this exercise to experience that.
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And so I think just knowing that of like, oh, it was like a
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weight lifted, like, OK, if I do this, I don't have to be like
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all in like side business, you know, girl bossing hustle.
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Like it could just be something that I get to try on an
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experiment, which I think relieves so much pressure of
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like being able to build things. Now don't get wrong, I have
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another client who she has her day job within marketing and she
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also has her side coaching business and speaking business.
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And for her, she's like, no, I have very clear goals that
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within a year or so, I want to be full time in my coaching and
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speaking business. And So what does that look like?
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And so for us, it's talking about, OK, how do we build a
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plan that is sustainable with milestones that you can hit in
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the course of a year so you can start to see enough traction in
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the course of this year. So you know that you feel stable
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enough to leave your day job and go into your business full time
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at the earmark. So with her, it's like, no, we
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have like dead set timelines, deadlines of what's happening
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with things that are being executed between now and then to
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help build that traction and create that evidence and see
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that it's possible. And so these are different ways
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again, of how you can build both without having to give up on one
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or the other and having to burn it all down or burn yourself
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out. So the reflection that I have
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for you is what's 1 offer service or idea that you could
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potentially test in the next 30 days.
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So what's an offer, an idea or a service you could test in the
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next 30 days? And testing it could just simply
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be setting up some calls and ask people, you know, at setting up
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some calls with some potential clients, people who would maybe
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be your target audience and just asking them like, hey, you know,
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around that idea or topic. Like we're kind of getting stuck
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on like, what are the things you need help with?
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What are like the things that you feel like you need more of?
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And then seeing if that offer is going to make sense for them.
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All right, amazing. The last piece I would say is
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when it comes to either of these paths, when it comes to getting
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clarity on your career, when it comes to building out your
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business, it's being able to get support with both paths with
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intention, right? Because I think the biggest
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thing is that like 1 doesn't have to be without the other.
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And so, you know, you don't have to choose.
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You don't have to choose between being a leader in your career or
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building your own thing, but it does take clarity, some
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guidelines, boundaries and strategy to do both very well
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without burning yourself out. So whether you're having a coach
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or a group that you're working with to help you stay focused
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instead of getting scattered because the big thing that will
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come up is like overwhelm, overwhelm of our ideas,
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overwhelm of our time, overwhelm of what should be taken next as
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a priority. And so I say when you're doing
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both, it's really important to have some kind of support
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system, whether it's like a coach, a group, a mentor to kind
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of help you like stay the course of These are your two goals.
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And here are the timelines and action plans to make it happen.
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So how do you create a career also that could potentially it's
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funding your side business as it gets started, right?
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So your, your, your, your career is like one, you're developing
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skills within your career that you're going to be able to
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translate over into entrepreneurship.
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That's great. You're building your career so
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you can build relationships with potential future clients or
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customers or people who are going to refer you.
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That's also amazing. You're also building your career
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so you can continue to fund and feel safe and secure within your
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life financially. I think that's a big thing you
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will get really when they don't have like steady income and
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they're building their business and they go all in, there's a
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lot of insecurity that comes up financially.
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So when you have your day job, you have potential referrals,
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potential clients, you're building your skills that that
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can transfer over. You also have the financial
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safety to not feel stressed out while you're building your side
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business. And sometimes it's funding your
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side business as they get started.
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And so that's why it's really great to have all those things
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too. And So what does it look like to
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redefine what these two paths can look like for you?
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And so I think the biggest thing is that my client who was
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looking at going full time within her business, you know, I
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have two different scenarios and both are totally a path that you
19:06
can take. I had one client who was like,
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I'm leaving my, my day job and I'm going to go all into my
19:11
business now. Let me tell you with her, I had,
19:15
I was recommend like different action plans people decide to go
19:18
full time in their business. I have like a whole strategy of
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like what we do from put your job planning to financial
19:23
planning to all these things. And so the biggest thing I was
19:25
just letting her know is that from a mindset perspective, when
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we don't have financial safety and security, especially if you
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were lacking that from an early age, it can start to bring up
19:34
certain emotions for us. And so to let her know that like
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one, what is her financial runway to, you know, how are we
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going to make her feel secure? What is her emotional plan?
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It was hard. It was super hard because when
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she left that and the first thing that came up was like, how
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do I stabilize financially while she was trying to build her
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business? And so I think the thing that
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ended up happening was there's lots of emotional ups and downs
19:57
within that before she could start to feel really secure in
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her business. But here's the thing.
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She knew that that was going to be a part of the path that she
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was picking. And so she put a lot of work in
20:08
to start to focus in on her emotions, expanding her
20:11
emotional capacity, figuring out what she needed to do for the
20:14
short term, for what we call like a short term job that will
20:17
help funnel and fund her lifestyle currently, as well as
20:20
set her up for her new job and then ultimately building her
20:23
business. And so she ended up being able
20:25
to make it happen, but just knowing that that was going to
20:28
be more at the forefront for her from an emotional aspect of what
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she was going to have to expand her capacity, deal with those
20:33
tough emotions, have some anxiety, have some stress.
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But then ultimately she made it happen.
20:38
She made it happen and she built her business.
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And now she's like, she's focusing in on another client
20:42
who was like still at her day job and building her side
20:46
business to go into a full time. She's totally happy.
20:48
She's happy because she's taking on the client that she wants to
20:51
take on within her side business.
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She's getting the funding and the visa that she needs
20:55
throughout her day job and she's making both work.
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And so for her, it's about whenever she feels like she
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wants to just fall back on her business and have to be full
21:03
time, she can choose to do that, but she doesn't feel the
21:05
pressure to do that and the pressure that she has to.
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And so it's truly about what it is that you want for yourself
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and how you want to build that out.
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So the reflection that I have is like, if you don't, if you
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didn't have to choose what you don't, if you didn't have to
21:17
choose, what would your career and business combination look
21:21
like? I'm curious for you, like, do
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you have a vision for yourself of what you want that career to
21:26
look like for you as well as that business combination?
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And it's not just about just for everyone to know.
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This isn't about like, oh, I have to be a girl boss and I
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have to make more money and, and get more stuff.
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No, it's, it's about having security, it's about having
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freedom, It's about having flexibility, right?
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There is nothing more empowering than be able to figure out how
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to make money for yourself without having to be dependent
21:48
on a corporation or an organization for you to be able
21:51
to fund your lifestyle, to feed yourself and to take care of
21:54
yourself. The moment you are able to start
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to get a client and get paid for it and learn how to make money
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for yourself, there is so much power in that, right?
22:03
It's like I'm no longer dependent on someone else to
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give me income. And it's not saying that we all
22:08
have to quit our jobs and build a business.
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It's just a great project. It's a great thing to experience
22:14
at some point in your life if that's something that interests
22:17
you because ultimately, nothing in this life is guaranteed and
22:20
nothing is promised. And so knowing that any point in
22:22
time, an organization can lay us off, let us go, they can get
22:26
consolidated, who knows? Just being able to kind of learn
22:29
how to do that for yourself is like this ultimate self trust
22:33
that you can build with yourself.
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And it's a great skill to just to learn, even if it's on a
22:36
small capacity or if you want to go into a full time.
22:39
And so I say ultimately by doing that, you're being able to
22:42
create the belief in yourself that you can make money.
22:45
You're able to learn how to market and sell.
22:47
You're able to work with people you want to work with.
22:49
You can be very mission driven and focused.
22:51
And then you have flexibility and freedom over your location,
22:53
over your time, all depending on what kind of business model you
22:56
build for yourself. And so why not, why not try it?
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So doesn't have to be something that you feel like you are
23:01
burning out or like pushing super hard.
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I think that can be a little bit more easeful, graceful that you
23:06
can test out an experiment with. So I highly recommend it.
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And hopefully you found some tidbits in here of how you can
23:13
get clarity on your career, but also see how it sparks a bigger
23:16
vision for yourself and for your life and how you can build both
23:19
when it comes to that business that you've been wanting to
23:22
experiment with as well as still be a leader in your career.
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So you know where to find me. I will be here again next week,
23:28
but it has been a good one and I will talk to you soon.
23:32
If you're curious about anything when it comes to coaching or
23:34
working together, I recommend a couple of things.
23:36
One, just join my e-mail list. It's in the podcast description
23:40
so you can learn more about me, about my clients, about all the
23:43
amazing fun things that we're doing.
23:44
And then also, if you're like, hey, I want to learn even more,
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go to mywebsite@dannytan.com. That's DANITA n.com.