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231. Life Is Short, Don’t Wait to Dance (feat. Valorie Kondos Field) · Anything But Routine

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  SPEAKER_00: Wait, don't wait for the rhythm.
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  SPEAKER_00: Make the rhythm.
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  SPEAKER_00: We call we create but routine.
• 0:15
  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to anything but routine.
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  SPEAKER_01: I am beyond excited to be able to interview a legend.
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  SPEAKER_01: Coach Val from UCLA.
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  SPEAKER_01: She is the former head coach of UCLA Gymnastics 29 years, seven-time NCAA championship, UCLA Athletic Hall of Fame inductee.
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  SPEAKER_01: She was voted Pac-12 Coach of the Century, WE Coach, Lifetime Achievement Award recipient, and she's the author of the book Life is Short, Don't Wait to Dance.
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  SPEAKER_01: And her tech talk is called Is All Winning Success.
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  SPEAKER_01: I want to hear more about that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, good job, Cindy.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_01: So my first question I'm going to ask you is Is it true that you never have done a cartwheel or have been in gymnastics?
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, it's true.
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  SPEAKER_01: So how did you get into this?
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  SPEAKER_01: Tell us about it.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh I wanted to be a gymnast when I was little.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_02: And I my I have scoliosis.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, I think I heard that.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_02: So my parents put me in, the doctor said put her into ballet.
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  SPEAKER_02: So my parents put me in ballet.
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  SPEAKER_02: I am not born to be a ballerina.
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  SPEAKER_02: I have no turnout.
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  SPEAKER_02: I have no flexibility.
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  SPEAKER_02: In fact, you'll appreciate this.
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  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, being in the dance world, I was in two auditions, and you know, you stand there in the old days in auditions.
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  SPEAKER_02: I don't know what they do now, but yeah, it's we would you stand like this in first position.
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  SPEAKER_02: And they go by and they like, if you don't have the right proportions in two auditions, they said, your head is too big and your neck is too short.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I was like, like, what am I supposed to do about that?
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I was not born to be a ballerina at all.
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  SPEAKER_02: I want to be a gymnast.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I would try to teach myself gymnastics in my backyard.
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  SPEAKER_02: Failed miserably.
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  SPEAKER_02: But I remember, I remember just trying to teach myself a side aerial, and I kept putting my hands down and I'd fall, but I would stand up and salute like I was in the Olympic Games and I had just won the gold medal.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's awesome.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, so okay, what is what has been one of your biggest challenges, coaching?
• 2:23
  SPEAKER_02: That's a really good question.
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  SPEAKER_02: Because I think we all in leadership, I think everybody goes through the same challenges.
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  SPEAKER_02: I would imagine we all do, and that is that um imposter syndrome.
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  SPEAKER_02: That especially young coaches, you think like what I find is head coaches often come from good assistant coaches, but they're not trained to be leaders.
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  SPEAKER_02: They're not trained to how to show up and model the behavior that you want to instill into everyone else whom you're leading.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so the biggest challenge for me was coming into the world of athletics at UCLA.
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  SPEAKER_02: I was the choreographer, then they asked me to be the head coach, which was absurd.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I accept the job, and it's like, well, I don't know anything, so I'll just act like a head coach.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I postured.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I remember clearly being on the competition floor and putting on this affect.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I remember thinking, well, the chancellor's here and the athletic director's here, and all the big donors are here.
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  SPEAKER_02: They I cannot be having fun.
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  SPEAKER_02: I can't be smiling, because that means that I'm not taking my job seriously.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I just act, oh, I grew up on stage, I'll just act like a coach.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I pretended like I had all the answers, I had no answers.
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  SPEAKER_02: I would show up at these team meetings and I would just like tell them what all they were gonna do.
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  SPEAKER_02: And there, and I remember when I just scrubbed all of that and became authentic to who I am.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's great.
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  SPEAKER_02: In fact, I've had some alumni tell me recently I'm the original Ted Lasso, because and I've asked them why, and they said, because Ted Lasso did a lot of crazy stuff like you did, but it actually worked.
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  SPEAKER_02: And when I stopped trying to be somebody else, okay, and and walked into this world of athletics, which was extremely intimidating, with my dance background, confident, especially in the world of gymnastics.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's called artistic gymnastics.
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  SPEAKER_02: I knew that I was the only coach in the country that had my background.
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  unknown: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so I could bring movement to life like no other coach could in gymnastics.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I'm gonna, that's gonna be our brand.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's my stamp on this beautiful sport.
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  SPEAKER_02: I had an athlete come up to me and say, Miss Val, you finally became a leader worth following because you're being true to yourself.
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I love that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I think you're right, like in your early years, you do you just model after someone that you watched, and you it takes you a while to find your way.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: So that's interesting.
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  SPEAKER_02: And in our world of athletics, the greatest coach that ever lived um in any sport is the great coach John Wooden.
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  SPEAKER_02: I knew you were gonna say that.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: And he became my mentor.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh my God.
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  SPEAKER_02: So after I was trying to posture all these other coaches that were authoritative and dip dictatorial and all this, I was like, well, that's not working.
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  SPEAKER_02: Let's just, let's just try to be John Wooden.
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  SPEAKER_02: And that worked just as badly.
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  SPEAKER_02: And um he and I were interviewed one time after we had won a bunch of championships, and LA Times interviewed Coach and myself, and and the reporters said, you know, you've become, you're becoming the next John Wooden.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I thought that was blasphemy.
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  SPEAKER_02: I was like, don't, don't, don't say that.
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  SPEAKER_02: And before I could say anything, Coach Wooden said, Why would she want to be another John Wooden when she can be a great Valerie Condos Field?
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  SPEAKER_02: I love that.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I remember in that moment, just it it released any sense of me trying to be someone that I wasn't.
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  SPEAKER_02: He released that last part for me.
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  SPEAKER_01: For you.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I love that.
• 6:14
  SPEAKER_01: That is great.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, this morning when you opened the camp here, you talked about FOMO and then you talked about FOPO.
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  SPEAKER_01: I loved that.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's not me.
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  SPEAKER_01: I didn't come up with it.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, Dr.
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  SPEAKER_02: Michael Gervaise.
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  SPEAKER_02: Let's give credit where credit is due.
• 6:27
  SPEAKER_02: Dr.
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  SPEAKER_02: Michael Gervaise came up with the acronym.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_02: Do you remember what it stands for?
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  SPEAKER_02: Fear of other people's opinions.
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  SPEAKER_02: Say it.
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  SPEAKER_02: Fear of other people's opinions.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: Fear of other people's opinions.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: Which high school kids holy yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thank you, social media.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: So that's great.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I loved your message that you told the kids today.
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  SPEAKER_01: Can you kind of go over that a little?
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  SPEAKER_02: Um I feel badly for this generation because you and I are the same age.
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  SPEAKER_02: Ready?
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  SPEAKER_02: What's the thing?
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh, six, seven.
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  SPEAKER_02: We had to do that.
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  SPEAKER_02: And breast cancer survivors.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right there.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: And no filter.
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  SPEAKER_02: Do you have a filter?
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't have a filter.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: I don't have a filter.
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  SPEAKER_02: And we just met.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and we're so like with comrades.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's good.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um no, I I feel badly for the the younger generations because you and I, and I I teach a class at UCLA.
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  SPEAKER_02: I love it, love it, love it.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I tell them this all the time.
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  SPEAKER_02: I say, you know, it's our generation, it's my generation that invented the phone.
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  SPEAKER_02: Steve Jubbs invented the smartphone.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh the generation below us invented social media.
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  SPEAKER_02: But you and I did not grow up with it.
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  SPEAKER_02: No, not at all.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I'm not attached.
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  SPEAKER_02: Are you attached to it?
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  SPEAKER_01: I probably am now, but I yeah, I am.
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  SPEAKER_01: Are you addicted?
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, kinda.
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  SPEAKER_01: But I I realize it and I'm working on it.
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  SPEAKER_01: How are you working on it?
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I'm just trying to put my phone away when I don't need it, and my daughter yells at me.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's funny that my daughter tells me.
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, she does get off the phone.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, our sports psychologists would say, Are you trying to put the phone away?
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  SPEAKER_02: Or are you putting it away?
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm putting it away.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: I wonder if it's easier for us to be able to say, to have the discipline.
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think it is.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think my problem is I'm always working.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so, like last night, I was texting people that are gonna be here today for camp when I was at the Lakes Jam music festival.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I was half in and I was here, but it's But you weren't scrolling through social.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_01: Oh no, no.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_01: No.
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  SPEAKER_02: And that's that's the the brain rot, yeah, that is being labeled now.
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  SPEAKER_02: And yeah, and the the P the student athletes that I work with, they we do a few different exercises to get them to understand, A, that you are addicted.
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  SPEAKER_02: The algorithms are really, really, really good at what they do.
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so you are addicted to that.
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  SPEAKER_02: So um, you know, just just getting younger people to realize that what I shared with your campers today was the that um I don't remember what I shared with your campers today.
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_02: Well, you were telling them you did the oh the challenge.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_02: The challenge, yeah.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_02: Um I do believe, I don't believe, I know this to be true, that our brain is is hardwired to go to negative very quickly.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I don't think it's possible, I don't believe, when people say, just don't think that.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_02: That's not possible.
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  SPEAKER_02: Your brain is is built to think, is created to think.
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  SPEAKER_02: So we need to replace those thoughts with other thoughts.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_02: And I always think of it as a mean girl that sits in my head.
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's a good analogy.
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_02: And she's just a B-I-T, you know, H.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_02: And she sits up there like looking at her fake nails and her this, and and whenever to this day, whenever I get a speaking request, the first thing that she pops up and she goes, Why you?
• 10:31
  SPEAKER_02: You're not smart enough.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_02: And I it I I go through the whole process of saying, you know what, I don't have all the answers now, but I have whatever it takes to figure it out.
• 10:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I have the strength to be able to handle anything.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I know I can figure this out.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_02: I love your confidence.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_02: And okay, I'm not Brene Brown, I'm not a research scientist, but I have 37 years of practical experience.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: That counts for something.
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_02: It sure does.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_02: And so I just I be I talk myself up, and um School of Hard Knocks is a great place to learn.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_02: And so I have a um I have a stepson who's a pastor, and he did a wonderful sermon one time on the original goat, the original greatest of all time, that was Jesus.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_02: And I started thinking about you know, we think about goats as as athletic figures.
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_02: But Mother Teresa was a goat.
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_02: You know, um, Gandhi was a goat.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_02: Some people can say Taylor Swift is a goat.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, for sure.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right?
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  SPEAKER_02: In their own right.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_02: And so then I thought, we're all our own goats.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_02: And so I literally, I'm a big knitter.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_02: I'm a big knitter.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_02: You are?
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I'm a knitter.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_02: I don't look like a knitter, do I?
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, I'm a really good kinnter.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_02: I don't knit.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I have an I just knit a sweater that says B-Y-O-G.
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_02: Be your own goat.
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_02: Be your own goat.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so I challenged that was a challenge with the the dancers today, the campers.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_02: It was like the coach file challenge is to be your own goat.
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  SPEAKER_02: What does that look like instead of trying to be somebody else?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I that's great, especially for their age.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_01: That's great.
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  SPEAKER_02: Empower them to be because you know what the truth is, as fabulous as you are, and as successful as you are, I could never be as good as you being you, as you are at being you.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_02: And when I when I spend all this time and energy trying to be Cindy, I am not spending that time and energy developing to the best me I can be.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_01: I love that saying is be yourself.
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  SPEAKER_01: Everyone else is already taking everybody else.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_01: It's like true.
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  SPEAKER_01: So who okay, so John Wooden inspired you?
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_01: Who else has what what keeps you going and keeps you speaking?
• 12:57
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I would imagine you and I experienced the same thing.
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  SPEAKER_02: When I was diagnosed with breast cancer, and I realized that I was gonna live, another realization hit very quickly, and that was just because I know I'm not gonna die from this type of breast cancer doesn't guarantee me tomorrow.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it it took going through that to really understand that statement.
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  SPEAKER_02: And since that day, someday in July 2014, I am not afraid of death.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm a little concerned with how I'm gonna get there, but I'm not afraid with death, and I do not want to waste one day of my life.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_02: And so I feel like I was, God gave me all of these wonderful traits and blessings and all of that that are unique to me.
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  SPEAKER_02: I have unique dreams.
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  SPEAKER_02: I want to fulfill as many of those dreams as I can before I die.
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  SPEAKER_02: And the reason why I retired from coaching uh seven years ago is I want to take everything that I've learned, all the good, the bad, the ugly, all the mistakes I made, and I want to share it on a broader platform, including with those that are extremely unfort unfortunate in our world.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_02: And so I do a lot of speaking on everything that we're talking about, and I am really the thing that gets me up and going more than anything is I have recently become involved with an international children's organization that provides healing for children of domestic sexual abuse.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_02: Wow, that's a great platform.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_02: And I just learned that one in eight children around the world experience sexual abuse in the home.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so it's a very difficult subject to talk about.
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  SPEAKER_02: People don't want to talk about it.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, but when you think about what that grows into, the abuse that grows into, the suicides that grows into, the generational um effects that that has, this organization, Kids Alive International, that I'm involved with, they provide safe housing, they provide the trauma therapy, and they provide the legal services to help break the generational change.
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  SPEAKER_02: So that's what gets me like, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I told, I've gotten, I've gotten our student athletes that I coached, the Olympians that have all the platform on social media and everything like that, right?
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_02: I've got them involved and they said, What's your goal?
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_02: I said, My goal is to help every abused child in the world.
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  SPEAKER_02: And one of them said, Oh, is that all?
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_02: And I said, Well, it's not like you train to finish second.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right?
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_02: You train to win.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
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  SPEAKER_02: So let's line up all the children in the world that are that are abused right now, and you pick the ones that aren't gonna get saved.
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  SPEAKER_02: How's that?
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  SPEAKER_02: No, we're gonna save every child in the world.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, how do you get your message out?
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_02: Where where are you?
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  SPEAKER_02: What's the platform?
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_02: Is it it's um I'm doing a lot of speaking for them.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_02: We call them Knights of Justice.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I'm going all over the country speaking, raising money, raising awareness.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then we're hiring people that worked for me at UCLA to develop a social media platform to get awareness out.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh wow.
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  SPEAKER_02: Which I'm not good at that at all.
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  SPEAKER_02: So let's right.
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  SPEAKER_02: Know your incompetencies.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm extremely incompetent with anything technical.
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  SPEAKER_01: Let's pass that off.
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  SPEAKER_01: She Maya, who's filming today, would probably share that with you.
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  SPEAKER_01: That I'm the same way.
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  SPEAKER_01: See?
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  SPEAKER_01: That she has they all have to help me.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_01: It's just not our generation.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I have no desire to learn.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_02: I I'm I'm paper and pencil all the way.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_02: With an eraser, not a pen.
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  SPEAKER_02: Pencil, because I have to be able to erase.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_01: My my one, my people that has worked with me for years, Sandy House, she's out in Washington, and she's like, Why do you choreograph in pen?
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_01: Because you're constantly scratching it out.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_01: And I go, I have no idea.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_01: Because she uses pencil all the time.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_01: I don't.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm always like a mess.
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  SPEAKER_01: Scratching it.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_01: I know, but you're a beautiful mess.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, thank you.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_01: You're welcome.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_01: If you're a dancer looking for more, you can check out our Just for Kicks camps and attend one in the summer.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_01: You can also check a youth program in your area.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_01: We're in 200 communities right now, and maybe we'll be adding one in your area soon.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_01: How did you come up with the book and the title?
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm also interested how long it took you to write it.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_01: So the book is called Life is Short, Don't Wait to Dance.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_02: And um the book is about how a ballerina became a seven-time national gymnastics coach, championship coach.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_02: And all the things that I did, like I said, that were very unorthodox, but they worked.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_02: And um obviously the title Dance is a metaphor for anything that makes your heart sing.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_02: And so life is short, regardless, even if you're living to be 100 years old.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_02: It's still, you never know when your last day on earth is gonna be.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_02: Don't wait to do anything that makes your heart sing.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_02: Especially when it involves giving to another person of yourself, of love, of kindness, of a like like I've been looking at you just thinking, wow, I love your haircut.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I'm not gonna wait to get home to text her to say, Cindy, I love your haircut.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna tell you right now, I love your haircut.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, thank you.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_02: That made her heart sing, that made hearts my heart sing.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_02: See how that goes?
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_01: My former dancer cuts my hair.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, there you go.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_01: There you have it.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_01: She knows my vibe, kind of.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_01: So it's great.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_02: So everybody has a story in them.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_02: Everybody needs to write a book.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_02: You need to write your book, you need to write your book.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_02: You've written the book.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_02: All of you have a story in you, you need to write your book.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_02: And it's a very painstaking process, but it's great therapy.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_02: And it gets great clarity on who you are, why you believe what you believe, so that you're able to speak to that.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_01: That's that's a good point.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_01: I I've started writing a book.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_01: Excellent.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_01: Someone wrote a book about me.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_01: Excellent.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, I have to prove that.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_01: You proved it once, and I didn't.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, you need to finish your book.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_02: Challenge extended.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_02: Don't say challenge accepted unless you're gonna accept.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_02: I will.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_02: It's it's in the challenge extended.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_02: Challenge accepted.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_02: You heard it right here on anything but routine.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_00: Make the rhythm.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_00: We call, we create but routine.