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Riding the Waves of Life: Ryan Burgess on Transformation, Paddleboarding, and Fitness | Ep 18 · The Driven Athlete

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  Speaker 1: If you're a driven, active person who wants to reach and pursue a higher quality life with some ambition, then guess what this podcast is for you.
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  Speaker 1: This is the Driven Athlete Podcast.
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  Speaker 1: What's up?
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  Speaker 1: Y'all?
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  Speaker 1: It's your man, dr Kyle.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Driven Athlete Podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Got a really cool guest, ryan Burgess, with us.
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  Speaker 1: I know you're a busy guy, so I appreciate you taking the time to come in here.
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  Speaker 2: No, thank you.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate, uh, you know, taking the opportunity to come in and talk with you.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I wouldn't hear all the stories about all the stuff.
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  Speaker 1: So share more with everybody if they're unfamiliar with where you're at, what you're doing now, but you're at Matibolic, is that correct?
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  Speaker 2: Correct, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So, um, I'm at Matibolic right now.
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  Speaker 2: It's a group fitness program that's up in Jupiter, so we're right there off of Indian Town Boulevard, and it is group fitness and more strength driven based functional fitness.
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  Speaker 2: So we are actually a barbell free gym, meaning.
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  Speaker 2: So we work primarily with kettlebell and dumbbell work and we still have all the ergs.
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  Speaker 2: Um, but MAD kind of breaks down with three different themes, meaning M stands for momentum, where we focus more on the athleticism endurance part.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, uh, anaerobic would be your A, so it's kind of like our all out 100% effort and then durability.
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  Speaker 2: So we call it like that slow grind of tight attention.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, nice.
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  Speaker 1: So the uh anabolic component more so than the aerobic component.
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  Speaker 1: It's more like muscle burn Um.
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  Speaker 1: Explain that more.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know it's.
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  Speaker 2: It's a little different um, on our anaerobic days it's what we call power and speed.
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  Speaker 2: Um, so generally you'll have.
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  Speaker 2: We have five different stations.
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  Speaker 2: So generally, out of those five different straight stations, one of them is always a striking component where we hit a bag, and um the other four, we will have three weighted movements, and so it's it's not taken that maximum load that what you can would stand within.
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  Speaker 2: The duration is a little bit shorter, so it could be like 15 seconds on, but you're holding 10 reps or 30 seconds, right, giving it a 100% effort, yeah, and then incorporating one cardio based movement in those.
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  Speaker 2: That's cool.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a unique model.
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  Speaker 1: I like that.
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  Speaker 1: I mean for me personally, the way my brain works.
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  Speaker 1: If it's like hey, I want you to do as many as you can for 60 seconds, I'm like by 10,.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like man, I'm like done, if you tell me to do 20, then I'll be, I'll just knock out 20.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the 15 seconds shorter duration, I'm like oh, I can, I can handle this.
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  Speaker 1: 100% is not to send me burn this out.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And that's why we kind of load up on the weights to to hold that duration.
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  Speaker 1: It's more it's more chewable.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's cool.
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  Speaker 1: So every single workout there's five stations, correct, you move people through different stations, yep, and the times that I've gone before I've been like maybe a handful of times there's different weights levels at every of, like resistance weight, correct, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So within those five stations we have five different lanes as well, so we can hold 25 clients, and so what we call a white lane, a teal lane, teal gray and gray and black.
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  Speaker 2: So it works its weight from light to the heaviest, late being in the black, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And that's a 100%.
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  Speaker 1: That's cool, and how long you've been in mad.
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  Speaker 2: So I've been there for about two years Now.
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  Speaker 2: I started as a client and then kind of wanted to pursue the fitness industry and joined and now been there for two years and loving it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, a lot of perks involved.
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  Speaker 1: Right, it is your workouts and get in there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, and the client as well.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, totally.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know seeing people progress.
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  Speaker 1: What do you enjoy most about that then?
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  Speaker 2: Well, for me it's always been about a passion for helping others and wanting to kind of pursue that, being an athlete, majority of my life or all my life, I should say growing up playing sports.
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  Speaker 2: I love the concept that they have at Madabala incorporating like aging athletically.
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  Speaker 2: So for me it was the right fit and really enjoyed coming on as a client and working the program and just wanting to pursue that fitness industry.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's cool.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure you see a lot of cool transformations.
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  Speaker 2: It is.
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  Speaker 2: That's the perk and being a part of somebody's journey.
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  Speaker 2: You know that's the rewarding part for me as a coach and watching these clients lose weight or pushing more weight around in the gym.
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  Speaker 2: It's why I love it, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So you were there as a client and then Zach the owner, correct, zach Agan.
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  Speaker 1: Zach Agan, he was like dude, I got to have you on board, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much.
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  Speaker 2: It's a process to become a coach there at Madabala.
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  Speaker 2: You know they're not just kind of taking anyone off the streets and throwing them right in, you know.
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  Speaker 2: So I had to fly up to corporate which is in based out of Charlotte, north Carolina, so I had to go through a whole training process there and pass some physical tests and it was like the Academy, like police academy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much.
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  Speaker 2: So it was like a three day boot camp and so I had to go up there and pass a certain amount of tests and then, once I came back, I spent several couple months underneath Zach and he was mentoring me and just kind of working different steps on how to work the floor, and you know we have the whiteboard speech and all the things before I actually took the floor on my own Gotcha.
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  Speaker 1: Man, that's awesome.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, how well is this?
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  Speaker 1: So, if people don't know, ryan's really involved with paddle boarding and the Crossing for the Cure event, which is I won't let you explain it, but it's like an 80 mile journey from the Bahamas to Lake Worth Pier, correct?
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  Speaker 1: So paddle boarding is definitely very intense A lot of balance, cardio, core stability, strength, all that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: How well do you think Matt has played with your ability to handle the paddle?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, for me it's actually been a game changer, complete game changer, because for me, you know, at the time before Maddabalic, I was doing the typical gym workouts of back and buys chests and tries, you know.
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  Speaker 1: The brides Exactly Monday's international bench day, you know.
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  Speaker 2: So I think there's a fine line in difference between working out and training.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I got out of Maddabalic because I was training for my specific sport and whether it's paddle boarding or any sport.
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  Speaker 2: So, yeah, for me it's been a huge game changer and I feel stronger and faster on the water.
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  Speaker 2: That's good.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's super important.
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  Speaker 2: It is because there's days where we're loaded on one side of the body but we're challenging the other side and doing step ups or different type of balance and, you know, working in that endurance and component of what you need to complete a 80 mile journey, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That's awesome, that's cool.
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  Speaker 1: So, yeah, tell us more about paddle boarding.
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  Speaker 1: When did you start getting involved with paddle boarding, like what led you to that?
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  Speaker 1: And then your involvement with the crossing for the cure Sure.
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  Speaker 2: Well, just to kind of, I want to let you know it is called CrossFit for the Cystic Fibrosis.
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  Speaker 2: Now that we have changed the name, oh, you changed the name officially.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I just wanted to put that out there, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: No good, we still get called that because there's, you know, a cure for it could be anything.
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  Speaker 2: So, yeah, you know our primary goal is the Cystic Fibrosis.
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  Speaker 2: But, yeah, so I got involved.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I've always grown up in Jupiter and as a local kind of surfer and kind of grown up on the water but did more recreational paddle boarding just to your, your sandbars and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, there was a time in my life where I was really struggling with drugs and alcohol and addiction, coming up on six years of sobriety.
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  Speaker 2: Congrats, Thank you, man.
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  Speaker 2: It's awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a part of my story.
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  Speaker 2: It's a part of my journey and who I am, but it doesn't define me.
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  Speaker 2: And so I was actually going through a rehab treatment program in January of 2018.
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  Speaker 2: And a friend of mine she sent me the link for the crossing and I was completely just kind of blown away and you know the selfish me at the time was like, oh, this can be a cool story to tell and I'm gonna cross the ocean and you know Whatever right.
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  Speaker 2: But then you get involved and it's like it's so much bigger than that man at the time.
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  Speaker 2: It gave me a purpose, a goal to work towards, which I didn't have at that time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So I think something beyond yourself, something 100% for other people.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah that's it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean.
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  Speaker 1: It makes sense with that same kind of mindset than where you're at mad of Helping people's journey till I get better, contributing to their life to improve.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean and make sense.
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  Speaker 1: It's the same, it's the same kind of drive, you know sure, which, from my understanding and my own humble, limited experiences with things too, that always helps me to stay more consistent.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like why am I doing, what's your?
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  Speaker 1: Why?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: exactly.
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  Speaker 2: We talk a lot about that.
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  Speaker 2: What is your why?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and everyone has their own example.
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  Speaker 2: People might be a bucket list, or they might be affected by Cystifybrosis or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: The reason is right.
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  Speaker 2: You know, my why is my own and that's what I hold dearly to me and that's what gets me across that ocean if you had a can, if you had to concisely say your why, what is that in one statement or two statements?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, for me it's Like, you know, just like we said, it's, it's a purpose bigger than myself, and that's what I think.
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  Speaker 2: Once you understand that what you're doing, I mean, it's powerful.
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  Speaker 2: You know there's a lot to the crossing and it's beyond just the paddle.
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  Speaker 2: It's.
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  Speaker 2: It's the physical, the, the mental, the spiritual, the emotional, everything about it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's so.
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  Speaker 2: 80 miles, it is it so?
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  Speaker 2: The paddle for Cystic Fibrosis?
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  Speaker 2: It's an 80 mile paddle challenge.
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  Speaker 2: So we take paddlers from Bimini Bahamas, which is basically right off the coast of Miami, and we paddle back from Bimini Bahamas at 12 o'clock at night.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so we launch.
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  Speaker 2: It's black, pitch black.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a star.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, which I imagine.
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  Speaker 1: That view is awesome.
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  Speaker 2: It is depending on the year, if it's to have flatter, rough conditions.
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  Speaker 2: Um so, yeah, so we, we launch about 12 am and we head back to Lake Worth pier.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, and how long does that usually take it?
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  Speaker 2: depends.
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  Speaker 2: So there's, uh, there's different ways to break up the crossing.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of people, probably their first year, will do like a Two or four person relay.
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  Speaker 2: So you're getting off and on the boat and switching up between your, your paddle partners.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, for me, I've only done solos, so I've done, you know, the full 80 mile paddle and, uh, what we call an iron crusader.
• 9:59
  Speaker 2: So it means you're going beach to beach and never get it on the boat.
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  Speaker 1: Man, that's intense, it is, yeah, it's very intense, uh, and you guys have boats that follow you or you're nearby a boat in case you need food or water like you're, like I'm cramping or it's some emergency.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so the boats are literally like for me to you.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I'm drafting right behind the boats.
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  Speaker 2: Um, just like you know, bike, bike, bicycle, bicyclers do yeah, yeah, but yeah, so the boat has my captain, my first mate, my crew.
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  Speaker 2: They have all my hydration, my food, nutrition and my breaks are very limited as, Going as an iron crusader, I used to kind of compete um, you know, your, your breaks are very limited.
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: So it's, it's back up and let's go.
• 10:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just get after it.
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what's like the mindset, like for that you know it's part of the training just a lot of the mindset stuff, because I imagine you do paddle training, endurance, getting a lot of miles into your belt, sure, but for the mental aspect, what do you guys do?
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  Speaker 2: You know, for the mental aspect it's, for me it's.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, you know, like we just talked about connecting back to your y, you know, and it can, that can be sometimes just having some morning meditation, grounding yourself, um, you know, for me it's always kind of spending some time at the water, in the water, um, so just kind of tapping into that, that mental aspect, because to me that's that's what the crossing is about.
• 11:22
  Speaker 1: It's, you know, more mental than anything that, I imagine, when you're 62 miles in and you still have 18 miles left, which eight?
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  Speaker 1: I guess it's insane.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like.
• 11:32
  Speaker 1: Let me root back to my why.
• 11:34
  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 1: It's like well, you got a bike, you got a, you got a Dig deep.
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: You had dig deep.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, real deep, I imagine.
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so how long from beach to beach?
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  Speaker 1: Like, what does someone expect?
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  Speaker 2: So I would tell you uh, my best time is 13 hours and 32 minutes 13 hours and 32 minutes.
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  Speaker 1: Paddleboard the entire time.
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  Speaker 1: Paddleboard the entire time, not getting on the boat.
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, do you get off the paddleboard and like, dunk your head and like Sometimes you know there's years where I've you know you'll fall in and it just got to get right back up.
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, before the sharks get you, yeah, the sharks.
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  Speaker 2: But uh, yeah, I would tell you for that your average paddler that are trying to attempt or do the full 80, probably around 16 hours or so.
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  Speaker 2: We have an hour, yeah we have an 18 hour cap on it.
• 12:13
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 2: So because it comes to a point, uh, where it's just getting too dark again.
• 12:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, in the next day it's getting dangerous.
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, do you?
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  Speaker 1: Do you see a lot of sea life out there?
• 12:22
  Speaker 2: Sharks.
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: You know, that's like probably the number one question that people ask me.
• 12:26
  Speaker 2: And I see more right here off the coast of Jupiter Floor and I do in the 80 miles of paddling.
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: Interesting, yeah, because you got to understand, you got, you know the beach, the marine life, the coral a lot more sea life and activity.
• 12:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're hunting there.
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  Speaker 2: We did have a hammerhead shark come up on one of our paddlers last year.
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: Not it, not a threat, but just curious chilling.
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, one viral, yeah.
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: Just mid.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it.
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  Speaker 1: That's what would be intense I can imagine.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, it's a part of being out there, so that's awesome.
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: How many paddlers did you have last year?
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  Speaker 2: So like your first yeah, and that's been the cool thing of being involved and going on.
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  Speaker 2: My sixth crossing now is is seeing the organization, the foundation, just Evolve over the years.
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  Speaker 2: You know, when I started in 18 that's actually really kind of starting 17.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't get involved in the 18 but 17 we had 34 paddlers when I got involved in the 18 we had a hundred now.
• 13:18
  Speaker 2: So tripled yeah, I'll triple, yeah, and now we're up to 200 pallors.
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: So that's actually about as much as Bimini can take is because we have about 200 pallors.
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: We have boats and volunteers and crew, so you're bringing over hundreds of people, yeah, and the north and south island can only handle so much for lodging and places to stay.
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: I mean I can magic.
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  Speaker 1: It's packed yeah With the benefit brought for crossing for cystic fibrosis, like this event, mm-hmm.
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: What does the benefit come through?
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: Like what is it a monetary benefit?
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: It's just awareness, like how do you get, how are we, how do y'all do that?
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: Sure, so.
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: So we have big-time sponsors and I've been actually sponsored myself by Celsius and that there are title sponsor for the crossing, so our yes, so see synergy drink, so so all our sponsors really kind of pay for the event and, you know, take care of that.
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  Speaker 2: So each pallor is required to raise a certain amount of money.
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: Now, those money, that money goes towards help benefiting the families with cystic fibrosis and Programs to help better their lives.
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: We're not about finding a cure but helping, you know, their lives live day-to-day, whether it's paying bills or electric bills, stuff like that.
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: We have a mindful practice that we do and breath work.
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: You know we're forever stoke scholarship to help people get out on the water and in water activities.
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: And just to, so, you guys know, is like the reason why we paddle as well, because cystic fibrosis is a terminal lung disease, right, so our lungs they fill up with mucus and bacteria and the salt water has so many health benefits and that's what it does is is getting these CFers and a lot of people move closer to the coast of Florida or to the water to get that natural healing from the ocean.
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: Because it that salt water, it or air, breaks down the mucus and and in the bacteria in their lungs and helps them breathe better.
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: So that's, that's the main reason of why we we paddle interesting.
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes total sense.
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I did not know that, with the benefit like salt in the air.
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: Sure, I Am a amateur Intermediate surfer favorite thing to do ever, for sure.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, two kids now.
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: It's like I pick and choose, like I have it 45 minutes before they wake with their nap, like what do I do?
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: Sure I get it going, and surfing for three hours is not always doable and also here in Florida it's not really super consistent.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: So I was like, yeah, it's tough, not a great recipe, it's tough, but anyway, I feel I always feel better when I leave the ocean.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: I'm always on a hive, like I had a great time, like this is my element, cool, I love it, but I'm like I breathe better.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: To you, I totally make sense.
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: Actually it goes back to a couple surfers that had cystic fibrosis in Australia and they kind of found and how much it benefited them and it's just kind of expanded from there.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really cool.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so I appreciate you sharing about your addiction history and stuff and your six-year sober now.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: So January of 2018 is when you said that someone presented this thing to you and you're like I'm all in, I guess go.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: So that year, in June of 2018, is your first time.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: Correct.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like I said, I was actually in rehab, so I was only six months of sobriety at that time.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: And you know, I met Travis Seuth, the founder and CEO of Piper's Angels Foundation.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: I met him at an event in February and he literally looked, looked me up and down, he said you can do it.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: And I went home and registered that day not knowing a single person and and, honestly, haven't looked back since.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: That's cool, yeah.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: So awesome.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: Sometimes you just got, it's got a pull the trigger.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: That's what it's about, man, and you know, I've learned to say yes to a lot of things now and just like being here today.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's just simple things.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: We don't care, let's do it, let's do it.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: Figure it out.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's, that's really cool.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: How long were you?
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: You were in rehab for six months.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: No well, so I was in rehab for, you know, several months.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: It was just an.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: It was an impatient program that I was going through, but I'm really struggling with drugs and alcohol.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Gotcha, thanks for sharing that.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: No, it's part of my story.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: So right now then, for your own training as an athlete compete, competing in the crossing you've competed for, like placing right for six years because people can just also do it, just like, just to complete it, like as be part of the community.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: Correct, you don't have to compete, correct?
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we have two different ways you can Cross.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: We have a recreational division and we have a competitive vision.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: So a lot of people it's just, it's just about crossing and, like I've always said, it doesn't matter whether you do five miles or all.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: 80 miles is kind of what you bring to the event.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I've competed and I've done recreational too.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: Okay, gotcha.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: That's cool, I would imagine for people it's more chewable of like man, I can't compete.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: It's like yeah, it's just part of the recreation.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: You know I also like the community something better beyond yourself, whatever.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: That's really cool.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: So for your own Readiness and training and stuff, you have metabolic Yep training, strength, anaerobic endurance course to build core strength.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's done a percent.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Then you paddle on the water and get used to the your element and mileage and stuff like a marathon runner, I would assume correct.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: And then do you do any other kind of training stuff, because you mentioned you said you went to Costa Rica and you trained with Laird Hamilton at the XBT.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: I did Convention or the course.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: It was a retreat, yeah, yeah, retreat.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: What was on there?
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: And then how's that played a role with your training now?
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, I that was.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: I went down to Costa Rica for a Retreat, like we're just talking about, with Laird Hamilton and Gabby Reese, because I don't know Laird Hamilton, he is the pioneer of water sports.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, this guy is an absolute legend.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: He started stand-up paddle boarding, big wave server and surf.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: I think, yeah, he started it all, done it all, and he developed this program with his wife, gabby Reese Called XBT.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: So it's extreme performance training and it's just taken more of a different approach on on how we train, more of a holistic approach, I could call it.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: And so, yeah, I went down to Costa Rica.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: It was a three-day retreat and it was Packed, packed with just energy and adventure and we paddle board, we served From mountain biking.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: But the real things that I kind of took away from was the breath work that we did every morning to start the day and before we got into to our program or our training for the day, and we did a recovery breath as well at the end of the day.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: But it was pretty cool and the most interesting and the most I learned was from the pool workouts.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: So we took Kettlebell and Dumbbell and we had these underwater workouts of holding breath and doing different types of squat jumps and we would crawl along the bottom of the pool, like putting one dumbbell in front of the other, and we'd have farmers' carries with two dumbbells on each side and you're just walking along the bottom of the pool.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: Cool, yeah, it was really cool.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: What had you trained like that before?
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: No, because you grew up surfing, you surfed.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: So with the underwater training, were you pre-prepared Like, or was it like way different than you expected?
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, intensity.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: I was a little nervous going into it and I wasn't sure what to expect and I'm about putting myself in uncomfortable positions.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: I think that's where we get stronger.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: I think 100%.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you 100%.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it sounds extreme, but it is a lower intensity of a workout being underwater, as you think.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: You're not lifting 200 pounds underwater, you're taking 35 pound dumbbells, right?
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, there was that mental aspect getting tapping into that and being underwater and breath holds and working out.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: But it's about keeping the heart rate down and being calm in those type of environments.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like not panicking.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because you go in that fight or flight stage where it's you know, yeah, freaking out, yeah, that would be great because it translates to a lot of things in life in general.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Sure, not just paddle board training when it's like mile 62 and you're exhausted.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: I love that stuff and I totally agree Like getting out of your comfort zone and the willingness to just do uncomfortable things and putting a person, putting yourself in an uncomfortable position Like that's where growth happens, in my opinion too.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: I had a mentor describe that he was in the military in the past and like he was a business guy, but he was like he wrote a book called Killing Comfort, okay.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: And I was like love, that Makes total sense, yeah.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: And he was like the people that are really successful are just the ones that are just willing to do things that are uncomfortable.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Yes, like I'm not familiar with this and I'm not comfortable doing it, but I understand it's gonna help me grow, I'm gonna do it anyway, yes.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: And then the second thing that they suggested was like really make someone successful, the willingness to be uncomfortable and then just the ability to learn new things.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Are you able to just like, try to learn something new?
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: And part of that's the humility of sucking at first for the longterm benefit and I'm like that also makes total sense Versus like nobody's willing to dive in, but anyway.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: So with underwater training, love, it makes total sense.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: The panic involved just being comfortable.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: And you mentioned breath work a bunch.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: The benefit of breath work in what sense?
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Like controlling your diaphragm, increasing the VO2 you can inhale or managing your heart rate with your breath.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think all of it.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: All that.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it all goes into play.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I think the main thing is kind of keeping that heart rate down when you're underwater like that and staying in that calm state of mind.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: So how?
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: What do they suggest?
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: How you do that?
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's different ways of breath work and what we did I mean, let's take the squat jumps, for instance, so we'd come down to the bottom of the pool.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: You're actually loaded, you're letting the air out as you're jumping up.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: You take the inhale at the top of the out of the pool and then you'd come back down.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Oh, so you're jumping out of the water in the water, correct?
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you think of the?
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: breath.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: That means in the meantime In between.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, so there's different techniques that they taught us in, really again, kind of calming everything down, because once you start bringing that heart rate up and exerting energy you're running out of that breath.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: But you know, they teach a lot about the nasal breath and pulling from that lower abdominal through the diaphragm, the ribs, you know, and all that, to where, mouth breathing, you find yourself in that fight or flight stage that we talk about Right and sometimes over breathing Gotcha.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, interesting.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Are you guys familiar with Wim Hof?
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, did y'all talk about?
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: that.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Well, that's where Laird Hamilton got all the work from Interesting, yeah, so he took a lot from Wim Hof and they were.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: I guess Wim Hof was at his first couple of retreats when he started his BT.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: That's really crazy.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: So that's kind of where that breath comes from.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: I have not I didn't have having read his book.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: I've just been exposed and read some things about him and saw some videos or whatever.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: But are you familiar a lot with Wim Hof and his methods and stuff or his thing?
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, not enough.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: But yes, what I read was that, like he was, he's able to put himself in extreme temperature, cold temperature, with like no clothes, just like board chores at home, and he's like able to hang out there for hours or otherwise.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: It's like this is physically impossible and it's like he'd be there for hours in frigid environments and in the snow and they're like your temperature and your body heat is like literally increasing.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: How are you doing that?
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: And it's like it's mind control or just like mind power, and then breath would be involved with that too.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: But I'm like that's it's crazy.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: I would love that kind of mass core in the mind.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very powerful and I knew he owns like some records for like long distance miles in the snow with like no clothes on or something Crazy yeah.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: So did they talk a lot about that stuff then, or link a lot of the stuff together?
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they didn't get too much into Wim Hof, but I knew it was a part of how they got started in that breath work program.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: So yeah, but it's important to understand how to breathe, especially in those high intensity, like anaerobic states of starting nasal nasal, going to a nasal mouth and then getting into a mouth to mouth to get more oxygen into our system and getting the CO2 out Right.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: So yeah, there's different strategies depending on the workload that you're doing.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: So are you mindful of that breath, breath, work and stuff during your workouts at MAD and paddle boarding also Like just everyday life stuff, oh, yeah, yeah, I really try to stick to that nasal breath just everyday life.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: And then it's been cool because I've recently got certified through XPT for breath work and being able to kind of use that on my clients at metabolic and understanding what it's like to truly hold and brace that midsection when you're downloaded in a squat and pulling from that lower belly.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, it's been fun and it's been interesting.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: I think the clients are really enjoying it and taking a different approach and unique feature of training.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: One more layer they can put in as part of their training 100%, it's just adding to that toolbox.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Do they do a lot of temperature control stuff at the XPT?
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: No Well, temperature control like diving in a cold plunges, hot stuff like conch rest and stuff.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Yep, that was incorporated.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Two out of the three days we did cold plunges or ice baths, I should say and right into the sauna.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: So that was actually my first ice bath.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, surprise, I know that's like the thing in the trend, but yeah.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a fan of them.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: What do they describe with the benefits, or why is that part of their program?
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the recovery, the inflammation, and I think it's the mental game too as well.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: 100%, in my opinion again.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: I would agree.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: So for me they do the three minute ice plunge, so that was my first interaction with cold therapy.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: How was it that experience?
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: It wakes you up, for sure, but it's going back to controlling that breath.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Your breath wants to take over real quick and go in that fight or flight stage and it's controlling it and getting in that state of mind and calming the body, the mind, and you come out just exhalated, and then it's been thrilling and going right into the sauna.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Were you.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: How did that three minutes go for you, that first time Long?
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was probably a long three minutes but we had coaches there to walk us through the whole thing.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Wow, that's cool.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: I think about that with like seal training, like because Navy Seals they do stuff like that.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Or they're in San Diego.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: This was like freezing there's really cold water, and they're like hell, we can stop.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: They're like just dive in right now, back out, just be able to handle that.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: I mean being on the South Florida.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Boy, how I'm such a wisp.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: It comes with the cold water.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not going to lie.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a little spoiled.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: That's really cool.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: So have you been incorporating a lot of this underwater training still as part of your programming?
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: And then are you taking on like are you programming that for the people as well?
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right now I've just kind of incorporated it for my own training, just kind of tapping into that.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: I've done some underwater work in the ocean as well.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: We drop in it what was it?
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: I think it was like a 40 pound kettlebell to the bottom of the ocean, you know, and doing farmers, carers, work on my breath hold.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: So I've incorporated that more into my own personal training because it's a lot to take other individuals and put them in that type of environment.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: It's not really yeah.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know there's a lot of qualifications and things that taking measures to be careful of, you know, because you can get that shallow drowning, you know it happens, right, yeah, blackout Right, people are trying to take it too far when they don't need to, right, yeah, yeah.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: So for me right now, I mean the goal for me, I eventually want to develop a program and getting into the pool because I think it is something unique and different that nobody's you know doing around here.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: Right, so that is my ultimate goal, but for right now, I'm in the process of developing something like that.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're in the process of developing a full breath work or underwater type training program specifically for clients trying to go that route water enthusiasts, paddle boarders, and it's going to be.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: You're going to take on clients.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Yep, is that right?
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Okay, cool, that's awesome.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, right now I'm in the works of really putting something together for my pallers for this year's crossing.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: Okay, and so it's a 14 week program that we're going to be putting them through, or I'm going to be putting them through, but again it just goes back to being in that uncomfortable state and taking the natural environments and our surroundings and you know, lifting logs and doing step ups on tree stumps and like carrying five gallon buckets of water down the beach.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: That'd be brutal.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, let me know if you want to join.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know if I can navigate the timing and it's together, it's got to make it happen.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: You know it's just got to plan, but yeah, but the kiddos, it could be tough for channel.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Oh, I get it.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: And you're saying you're, you're, you guys are due.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: I am.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're just really excited, my fiance and I.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're due in July, july 18th, so we're having a baby girl.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Awesome, just uh, that's what I was telling you.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: You know, she has to hold on to that date because I got the crossing at the end of June.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, can't have her come.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: She's got to, she's got to hang on, yeah, do breath work.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, I'm tired of hearing about your breath work.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: I know she puts up with me and I love her.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: That's all I hope.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sorry guys.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so uh, and you guys are the.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: The wedding then is planned for this year then?
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing you know.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: We recently got engaged.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: Um August 31st of last year, we went down to Costa Rica and I had this beautiful engagement for her and, um, yeah, it's a cool spot I found when I was there with Xpt.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: But, uh, so now that we're, you know, having a baby, everything's kind of a change and I think we're looking to elope and just kind of go somewhere, epic on the top of a mountain.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's more of our style, that's awesome.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, you guys do you.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's, that's it.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: You know I'm, you know, we're just a little different.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: We love our camping in the mountains too.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, cool.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really awesome man.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Well, congrats, thank you.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: I appreciate that.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: So, baby girl coming in June, june 18th, june 18th, july 18th, sorry, july 18th.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the crossing is in June, early, early June.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's actually a third weekend of June.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Okay, so late June, yeah, just right after the next week after.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: So that's a tight window.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, so we'll see how everything folds.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: That's cool, that's awesome.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Miss, congrats, thank you.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: And then you guys are moving into a house too, so you're navigating like moving, is that right?
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Well, I moved in with her and that's kind of where you know I had this opportunity at the time to sell my old house, move in with her and it kind of opened up these opportunities to get dive into the fitness industry and my passion for what I'm doing now, that's really cool, yeah, that's awesome man.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Well, congrats.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: A lot going on this year.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: A lot going on.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: A lot of great time going on.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is beautiful moments that I'm excited to share.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: How's the any name choices coming?
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: We're kind of throwing around a few, a little bit.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're kind of throwing around.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: You know, just being a waterman, it's throwing around the name like Kailani Cool, kai being ocean, sea, lani being the heavens.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Guys, he's awesome.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see, I think so too yeah.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: We already decided to put it.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what's your fiance's name?
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: April, april, I don't know April.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: We decided to say it was kind of a hard choice.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Problem solved, yeah, oh it's our choice.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: Establish it right here on the bar.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: To think this work, we can move on now.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, great, that's off the list.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Cool, yeah, dude, that's awesome man Congrats, thank you.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: So you're navigating, developing this underwater programming for paddle boarders.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: What's included?
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Some functional fitness things, beach related Yep, you're training full-time at Maddabalic.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Yep, doing your own training and paddleboard training yeah, awesome.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I just been fortunate enough.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: You know Zach Agan, the owner of Maddabalic.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: He's an amazing dude and I love that guy to test and he's been a mentor of mine and helping me throughout this, this journey that I want to pursue in my passion.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: It's really cool, yeah, so let's get him on here too.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: We could talk about, talk about his journey.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he'll tell you a lot.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's cool, we're we like a lot of.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a detailer, so that well, good, good, we actually have some mutual friends too.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Like we know, we've known each other other people between us that for a long time, which we?
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: It's great small world.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a player.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: What did you so for your own like development and journey and stuff, right, xpt, great Development pros like program, for you took a lot from it doing your own training right now, what other Think books or other directions have you gone mentors and things for your own development?
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, you know, for me I've kind of learned on my own.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: When it came to when I first got involved with the crossing, you know we didn't have like this great mentorship and Program at the time.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: You know I just kind of learned from the previous year from from guys, but we didn't have like these developed programs until I kind of got involved in 19 as the director of mentorship.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Cool.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: So for me it was kind of my own self-teaching I.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: You know I would my mom used to literally like drop me off at random Bridges throughout Palm Beach County and I would just paddle home five miles, ten miles, fifteen, and just keep adding it up.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: You know you're not Doing a marathon to train for me.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: You know, I mean it's like that old saying, but you know for me that was just Building on top of my miles and then incorporated my strength training on the, you know, when I'm off the water, gotcha that's cool, I think.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: So I mean the and I.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: What I like a lot about that stuff is like a lot of that translates to like life, you know, for training and stuff this is my opinion, of course right, like training, owning a practice, like sure, my fam being a father, right, would you're about to be in that bow, which is awesome.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Like I Use a lot of stuff for the purpose of like developing my own Betterment of my life.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I can help other people better.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I can like have my cup filled, my Emotional management and my resilience and stuff so that could be a better father and a better husband for them or my kiddos.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: I have two kids, so I'm like trying to establish that stuff to be a more stable, predictable rock.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: You know, and other mentors in the past have said, to like, especially with entrepreneurship and practice stuff which is a lot and a lot of risk, right and put yourself out there and stuff they're always like it's directly Correlated to your personal development.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah which I would imagine for this stuff for athletics and like developing as a paddleboarder and being able to handle this kind of thing.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: I would imagine is there similar correlations with that.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, 100%.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: I mean for me.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: You know, I really had to Take care of myself first, especially coming like out of rehab and still in my early sobriety.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Once I learned to like actually love myself, then I could start giving back to others.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: So that was always kind of my thing and Like self-acceptance.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, big time.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: Let's go through for that part of the rehab process.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: Are you seeing like what?
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: How?
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, part of the rehab process.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: You know I'm so selfish back then it was just me, me, me, me and everything was.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: You know it wasn't my fault.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: But you know, just again, getting back to loving myself, I didn't.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: I didn't know understand what love was.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: And then till I got involved with the crossing and being part of a nonprofit and seeing these Cystic fibrosis families and what they go through and like, dude, I don't have it that bad.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: You know it's really not like get your ass up and let's, you know, let's get to work.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: So that that was my biggest thing.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: So you know I used to go into the, to the hospitals and help feed these kids and bring them meals.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: And you know it's another part of the cystic fibrosis is it's hard for them to keep that weight on.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: So these kids are like a hundred pounds, soaking wet, 18 years old and struggling.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: I'm like you know, my life's really not that bad.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: Right, you know I had my struggles with addiction, but you know it's, I was ready at that time.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Right, they're on that white flag.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: So the that's not.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: It's awesome, and so you do.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: You still like could go to the hospitals, help help the families.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they actually switched it up so they used to be down at St Mary's.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm here most part of, yeah, west Palm Beach, and I think they've moved that facility for cystic fibrosis up to like Jacksonville or something area.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: But, yeah, we're still heavily involved and I've taken on CF Paddlers that have wanted to.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: You know, try and go for cool 80 as well, really for the full 80.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we've had one that's done the full 80.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: I've mentored a few throughout the past years of getting on the water and that goes back to our forever stokes scholarship when we actually get them aboard in a paddle so they're easy access to get on low barrier entry.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: So the heat that individual completed all 80 miles.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we had a dude in 2021 and that was a rough year, man.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: We had four to six foot swells and it was.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: It was gnarly, it was heavy, it was big and, yeah, he was the first one to complete the full 80 and he's the only one as a cystic fibrosis.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: I'm sure that was a very impactful moment.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: Oh, yes, it was huge and you know it gave I kind of it was that stepping stone for other CFers to want to accomplish that full 80.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: I got to paddle in 2022 with a cystic fibrosis gentleman named Scott Johnson Double long transplant.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, so it's double long transplant.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: He attempted it, didn't make it, but he's still.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: You know he did like 60 something miles, wow.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: You know I had the opportunity to paddle with him that year and Travis suit and it was very inspiring to see, like what he has to go through.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I would imagine same boat, no pun intended, the same boat, like viewing that for my own inspirations, and be like, yeah, if this guy yes, if he, I can do that like.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: If he can make it 60 something miles, yeah, no reason why.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: Otherwise, somebody who doesn't have cystic fibrosis, stop 100%, I'm just stop complaining.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: That's exactly what was gonna just have, you know.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know I was paddling right next to him.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: I still did the full 80, but it was just like so incredible to watch and that was definitely my most memorable crossing that I've definitely accomplished, because of what he has to go through and certain different diet program.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: But yeah it's.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: I'm like do this guy has a someone else's lungs in them?
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: I'm like I can certainly do this.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: I'm sure he saw a huge benefit with the training and just what was involved to get to that point.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's actually based out of North Carolina.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: So you know, we have pallors from all over and he's he's based on North Carolina and we met him when we went up for a paddle event up there called Carolina Cup and he came up so we wanted to have him come down and be a part of the crossing and now he's I think he's going on his third this year, but we're doing this whole documentary for him, called double or nothing.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: That's from hearing the February 1st actually coming up this Thursday.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: Really, yeah, so it's this whole documentary on on what he's gone through and being in the hospital and the treatments and To come out the other side, you know, and across an ocean.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: How does he now?
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: God, I'm 40 now.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: I think he's just around my age, I think he's early 40s.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: I don't, I'm not a hundred percent sure.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: You know, back then, you know, cystic fibrosis Patients used to only live.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: You know, back in the 80s only used to live to like maybe 10-11 years.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a couple years.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm standing out.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know they'd be lucky to make it back then, and then now they're living to live this great life of the 40, 50 years old plus, without transplants.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: Some with, some without you know, FDA approved a new drug I think it's been two years now called Trikafta, which has been a game changer for cystic fibrosis.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: With it being a lung pathology.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: Do you guys have other type of lung pathologies or maybe even COVID patients in the past that have joined with the same kind of incentives?
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, think of COVID, I mean, when we were going through all that, it's the same thing.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: You know it's staying six feet apart.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: So people with cystic fibrosis they got to stay six feet apart from someone else who has CF, because they can trans that back to you that there's different generics and different types of CF.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: So they can, you know, catch something from another CFer Interesting.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so they've been wearing masks all their lives, you know.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: You know they live in COVID, fortunately, yeah wow, so that's tough.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Well, that's awesome.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: And that guy at 62 and another guy, 18 year old, did the whole 80.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and hopefully inspiration for other CFers to be like cool, cool, I can do this.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's awesome.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: And then for us, starting with an attitude of gratitude, just being grateful, yeah, at least that's what I take away from that.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you and me both.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: So you mentioned grounding.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: I've heard that from some several people explain grounding.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for me it's just connecting with outside.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: You know, being part of just everyday life, of being outside and grounding myself, whether it's in nature and going for walks or hiking or connecting with the beach and taking a moment to myself and journaling.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: You know that's what I take as is grounding.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Have you gone the route with our study exposures of studies of like barefoot and earth contact, and then the grounding experience I'm always barefoot.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: Tell me about it.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: I barely wear shoes.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: The only time you'll see me in shoes is when I'm at the gym training.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm always, always barefoot for that reason.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's just kind of the way I grew up and being on the water and the surfer, you know, it's just like you're always barefoot, I you know, if I am wearing shoes or it's probably sandals flippy, floppies, yeah different now, of course, like I have Tonya kiddos will definitely like at least having two of them right now.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: You know like my personal hobbies and preferences are not, you know which I don't want to be that way.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: For them, you know, being worse.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: I'm like man, I would love to surf more paddleboard.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just a matter of navigating the schedule.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: And also my wife.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: You know she wants to be active and do stuff too, so I don't want to get it you know whenever you're ready.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: I got extra board waiting for you.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: Cool man, I want to learn because I've been paddleboarding.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: I've paddleboarded, you know, maybe a dozen times my whole life.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: You know I actually got a paddleboard last summer, just like you know, just to get exposed a little bit more cheaper one, just like, start the process and it's yeah, I haven't been on it for a while.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, our boards are built a lot different.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: So what for the crop?
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: Like for the, yes, yeah.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: So what what I paddle on?
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: It's a 14 foot board.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: It's all carbon fiber, very light.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: I mean you can pick it up with two fingers.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: My board weighs 22 pounds, wow, yeah.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: So it's owner John who owns Flying Fish, local guy built right here in Stuart Florida, fully custom.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it's all real light material.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: My paddle same thing full, full carbon.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: So it is they are expensive, don't get me wrong.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: And boards can go from $35 to $4,000.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: For a board, wow yeah, so that's why sponsors help.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: Celsius, yeah, cheeto.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know the girls from Cheeto.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so Rhino was telling me she was.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they got a old Cheeto board and they put all the graphics on there and it's great exposure for them too.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, that's we couldn't do without the sponsors Of course, that's awesome.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: So if somebody wants to start getting involved with like this sounds cool paddle boarding, I don't need to like I'm not surfing waves.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: It's a little bit more manageable, less barrier to entry, anybody can get going.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: Yep, how do you recommend somebody being like, pick up the phone, who do I call and how do I get involved with paddle boarding?
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would tell you to kind of go on our website, crossingfirst cysticfibrosiscom.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: Check us out I mean, we have YouTube videos of past crossings and to get some inspiration or kind of see who we are and what we're about and then just kind of, you know, if that's something you want to do, start getting on the water and, you know, start putting in those miles.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: For you know, for me it's an ocean event, so the more ocean training you get, that's the element.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think a lot of people get too caught up on the inside, sometimes on the flat or water.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: Right, it's important too, but don't get me wrong, but that's what makes our event so unique, because we're at the mercy of the ocean, right.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: But yeah, go on, check us out, and we'd love to join you.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: We will eventually, if you do sign up for the crossing, we'll sign you a mentor to help kind of guide you through the process and help.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: And we have local training events and, you know, different charity events going on all the time, especially leading up to it.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: Cool.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah Well, thanks, dude, for coming in.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: Man, I appreciate you sharing your story and sharing more about your journey and where you're doing now Besides cysticfibrosiscom.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: Is that right?
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: Yep, okay, how else can people reach out to you?
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can reach out to me on Instagram at you know, ryanburges08 on Instagram.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: I'd be happy to answer any questions that anybody has.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: You know I can leave my contact information and go from there.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: So if they want to see you at Mad, where's Mad?
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: Mad Abalic, mad Jupiter, and Instagram as well.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: Okay, yep Gotcha.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: They're off right off Indian town and basically Indian town and panic.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: So anybody that wants to comment, I'll give them a free, a free week trial.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: Okay, cool, free week trial.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: Awesome man.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: Well, thank you, conan and man, we'll have you again on a game, maybe post or like right before the crossing and be where you're at and things learned then, and then maybe after your baby and stuff too.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: We're excited to congrats again.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: Thank you, I appreciate it.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: We'll catch you all next time, all right, thanks.