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Hello, he's coming for Paul's opening line there.
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Hey and hi Molly in the chat, who's got an anime club heart
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this week? Welcome to The Dirty old Art
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classroom where every week Chris and I meet and talk about anime.
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Sorry, I kind of threw a sparring the worst because I
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started talking about George Stevenson.
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Yeah, Chris was really angry that that we had to go live, and
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I was. And which is wild because this
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is a podcast where you're going to legitimately be able to talk
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about George Stevenson rather than normal, where you just want
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to insert a conversation about him all the time.
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I'm not even into trains. I'm starting to doubt that you
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seem like a guy who's into trains.
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I don't know if that's an insult or.
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Not, you know, like you want to take it.
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Like one of them weird euphemism say oh that Chrissy's he's in a
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steam train SIM. I've seen him in an anorak on a
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platform, just saying. But this week, the reason we're
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talking about trains, the reason we're talking about the
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Stevenson family, is because we are doing Steamboy.
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And before we dive into what Steam Boy was about, what have
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you got as snacks? Because I know that you've
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already started eating your snack and I want us to go to
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talk about it before you demolish it completely.
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Oh yeah, So what? Has Molly bought you as a snack
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this week? Molly has bring home.
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While she was bringing home the bacon, she went to the local
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bakery and they sell trifles in little little tubs.
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So I have some trifle. It got a little bit messed up on
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the box so it doesn't look pretty, but it tastes amazing.
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So if you don't know this fruit Jelly cream sprinkles a little.
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Cherry actually does look quite delicious.
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Chris, Can I just ask, who do you think doesn't know what's in
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a trifle? I don't know.
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I haven't seen a trifle on sale for a long time.
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It's not like a popular pudding, is it?
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I think, yeah, I think the trifle's pretty popular.
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I mean, it's like summer granny staple for sure.
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Yeah. I think people would like make
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make trifles though, don't they? That's the thing.
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We do. We're not regular trifle.
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What are you going, lady Fingers?
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No, no strawberries and Jelly custard cream sprinkles.
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You don't have a sponge layer at the bottom.
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Well, all of this. Is this why we get divorced?
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Connor It gets gritty, though. It's like, especially if it's
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like when the jelly's set and it's like mixes in and it's like
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a weird texture. It's like no one likes eating
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wet bread. What does that look for?
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I. Don't mind it because I don't.
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Mind you, my name's Phoebe and I like wet bread.
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Strange lag. So the weird looks are coming in
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late. But I'm going to see what Molly
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says. It needs some sponge.
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All right, Whatever, Molly. There we go.
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Thank you, Molly. I'll tell you what, right now,
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Molly, Girls, Girl. And this week we're talking
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about Steam Boy. Chris, what would you say Steam
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Boy is about? Oh, you shove.
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Truffle in. Your mouth hang.
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On I need to do my snacks. Oh yeah, I need some more.
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While you're doing that, what have you got, Phoebe?
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I've got sour Jelly tots that are Yeah, I've.
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I've got sour Jelly tots that are so sour I don't know if I'm
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going to be able to talk. And white chocolate kinda bueno
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because we love the nutty cream here on this channel.
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So good. Oh yeah.
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Love the nutty cream? Love the nutty cream.
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Don't you be judging me. I heard you go.
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Oh get in my mouth. So that trifle.
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Yes to the trifle. But what is Steam Boy about
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Chris? Well, it It follows a little boy
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called Race Steam, set in the 1860s in Manchester.
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At the start he's a typical Northern bloke with a weird
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accent and his father and grandfather are both inventors
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and he kind of wants to follow in this footsteps.
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So he's a tinkerer while he's going to school one day in the
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post to get a package and it's from his granda who was, he
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hasn't heard from, from five years.
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And it's a big ball and he's like, what's this ball?
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Nice and sour. And then basically this ball is
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a source of this said basically this ball is a source of is a
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source of kind of unlimited power because everything in the
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1860s or whatever it is is powered by steam steam engines,
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steam trains. See, it's a very steam punk.
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Even the guy is called Race Steam and his dad's called
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Doctor Eddie Steam and his granddad's called Doctor Lloyd.
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Steam, the Steam guys. Steam Farm, Yeah, so and so.
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Is there a lag? There is a lag.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's quite a big.
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Lag I think. And I'm not sure why.
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I've tried to close everything and I don't know.
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Why? I don't know, I'll we'll try to
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work it through anyway. But yeah.
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And this is just before the world fair that has been hosted
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in London. They make.
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But the next second, his granddad pops through the door
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and goes, oh, by the way, your dad's dead and hide the pipey
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ball. And then these masked men from
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not masked men, these heavies from the government to come
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through to try to steal it back. And they're like, that's my
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steam ball from. The Ohara Foundation.
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Oh yes, Ohara Foundation. Yeah.
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And basically it is the story of Ray trying to keep these
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grandeur's ball safe. Yeah.
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And it's made by the same studio as Akira, which I think you can
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kind of tell with a lot of the animation and the way that a lot
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of it is framed and filmed and stuff.
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But one of the things that I so Ellie also deals with that idea
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of like, so in Akira, there's this whole thing about like
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progress and science stripping away your humanity.
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And again, this comes up in a like a what is the purpose of
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science kind of question that runs through the film because
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this it turns out the the father and Eddie and Lloyd, the father
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and the grandfather, which is Alfred Molino and Patrick
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Stewart, just to like put that in context.
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And they by far do the best voice acting in the whole film
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between the two of them. They're just outclass everyone
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in terms of voice acting, I think.
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Yeah, but it turns out they've been building weapons as well
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that they want to sell to like, the highest bidder.
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And then Lloyd has kind of grown a conscience.
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And that's one of the reasons that O'Hara Foundation is kind
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of tracking down this steam ball is because it's needed for the
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big weapons. So I got kind of the, the grand,
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the, the grandpa had like the ideal where he just wanted to
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invent stuff to innovate and make life, people's lives
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better. And Doctor Eddie Steen, the son,
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was kind of like he wanted to sell it for profit.
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That's what was in my mind. He used to say, Oh yeah, these
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creations are marvellous. But if we turn these into into
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weapons, we can get a lot more from this and then fund more.
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And then I can make more. Yeah, weapons that will kill
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more people. But that's what I got from it.
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I don't know if he started out like that though.
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Yeah, I mean, the grandpa seems to imply that what they were
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starting off, what they wanted was to just create something
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magnificent and beautiful out of steam.
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Yeah, but I also don't. The other thing that I don't
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know enough about is how does steam work?
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Like, because they say that they find like the purest type of
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liquid or something to turn to steam.
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And I'm, I was thinking about it and I was like, would purity
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make a difference to the level of pressure that you could
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reach? In a.
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In that thing I don't know. It's just boiling water so I
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don't know if I have a lower boiling point if it's purer, but
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what kind of dirty water they've been using.
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Usually it's a hot yeah, and also usually an impurity would
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actually would lower the boiling point, wouldn't it?
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Because it's like when you add salt to water.
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Oh no, you increase the boiling .0.
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Maybe even saw it felt. Confusing the science of it felt
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a bit confusing. Yeah, I even saw it.
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It wouldn't make that much difference in real life, I don't
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think. But it is a ball about this big.
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Would you be referending this film to a friend, do you think?
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Yeah. Because I mean, I was at the
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Ting. Oh.
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Sorry, Graham. Oh sorry for that.
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God, I'm saying that the ball was like this big and he
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accidentally opens it that tears a hole through the wall and
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everything. And it's like from that.
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And and I don't believe it. But to be fair, it is a film and
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it is an anime, so it's not exactly set in real life.
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And George Stevenson has a weird militia in this, so I don't
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think it's, you know. Yeah, we don't think that the
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the father of the steam locomotive that was actually
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like training his own household guard in sort of weird marine
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based warfare. Well, he might have been, I
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don't know, not from any of my, my sources, but we said if I, if
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I can recommend this to someone, I probably would because it's
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entertaining. It's not that I think it is a
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bit too long and we're saying before we're we're started
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because we normally have a what did you actually think of it
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kind of thing. But it could have ended like
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half an hour earlier, I think. What about you?
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Would would you recommend it to someone?
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Yeah, although we had different things that we would, yeah, I
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would recommend it to someone. I do love that we had different
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things that we would have cut out of it though, because like I
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was like, there's way too much like turning of the cogs and
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pulling of levers. Like you could cut a lot of that
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out and just like go to the story and you were like, that's
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the bit I like, which is like, of course, that's the bit that
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you like because it's the machinery bit.
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So what do we? Know yeah there's also like
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class machinery knocking about it is fun to watch I mean even
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though he's he's. Dying and jet packs.
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And jet packs, as you can see jet.
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Packs are so fun, no? And there's a there's a
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Zeppelin, there's like we had aeroplanes, there's boats,
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submarines, everything. Yeah.
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I mean, it's not as whimsical. I don't think it's massively A
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whimsical film actually for for it being steampunky and
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Victorian, it's a bit too. It's a bit too dark, I think to
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be like a, which you would expect from the makers of Akira.
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Akira is a very dark film. I love them they.
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Do a lot of like, yeah, me too. And I actually think that that
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makes this a better film for and I think I enjoyed it more
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watching it now than I did when I was a kid as a film for sure.
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Although I do not remember. There's a character in there
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called Scarlett O'Hara who's this like heiress of the, she's
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the heiress CEO of the of the O'Hara Foundation, which the
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steam, the steam family have been building weapons of warfare
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for. Yeah, and she's awful.
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In the 1st 5 minutes of her appearing on camera, she hits a
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hits her dog on the head, then she shoves it in a vase at a
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dinner table. Just weird behaviour.
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And then she just is basically a bit of a bitch for the whole
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film. Yeah, it's self entitled.
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Extremely self entitled, doesn't really get it, not even at the
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end She she seems to learn absolutely.
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Nothing I I don't know in it. She she kind of spoiled little
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brat and she's like people are working around us, some of the
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steam boys or working on something and she's like, oh,
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can you my dog's treadmill? Can you fix that while he's
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trying to like pilot a a castle and he's just like, no, no, I
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haven't got time. And he's she's like, no, no,
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stop what you doing? Come to my room and sort this
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out now kind of thing. She's really spoiled and then
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you get to the point where. She is.
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And, and also I, I feel like she didn't explain that treadmill
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problem clearly enough, because what she neglects to tell you is
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that the treadmill is stuck on on and the poor dog is inside
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like desperately running on this like weird Chihuahua hamster
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wheel. And you think it's like, oh, the
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treadmill's just broken and it won't turn on.
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No, no, no, no. Like I actually think at that
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point she she doesn't act with enough urgency for the actual
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problem that is at hand. Yeah, yeah.
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So excuse me, can you fix? This I was like oh baby.
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Oh, it's fine. It's it's an animated dog.
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It's not a real one. Yeah, although they did make
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some horrible noise when you get got bumped on the head.
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Yeah, yeah, I know, I know. But still.
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But later, later on in the film, she's kind of like, I don't
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think she. Understands and then he's like
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cowering in the next scene and trying to like escape her.
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Oh, sorry. And then later on, she kind of
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doesn't realize the extent of what a company does.
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So like the unleashed these Knights, which is like a suit of
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armour to basically fight the English police or the London
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police. And which it's not until she
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sees like someone actually dead in front of her.
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She's just like, Oh yeah, people are actually dying here.
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And then I think she kind of gets it.
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It's less about her. I mean, she's still a spoiled
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little brat, but she's but. She's she and she tries to stop
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it from happening, but I still don't feel like, but she's also
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at one point she's like, just make sure we win.
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Like if we're going to go like someone's like she's like what's
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going on? And someone's like, oh, well, we
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just have started a war with Great Britain and she's like,
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oh, we'll just make sure we win. It's like if someone was like,
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oh, we've just started a war with Great Britain, I'd be like,
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it's just got way out of hand. Yeah.
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I feel like there should have been some sort of meeting, there
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should have been minutes that were taken for the like if I was
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the CEO of that company, I'd be like, this definitely should
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have been a board level decision.
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Oh, somebody's seen. Isn't that here from Gone With
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the Wind? Scarlett O'Hara.
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I think that's where they're like, they're pulling out names.
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Famous, famous Western names. Scarlett O'Hara is Elizabeth
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Taylor in Gone with the Wind. Because you don't see this like
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western celebrities anime unless it's like a Ghibli film.
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So I was like shocked at that, but.
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Also we had a chat about the regional accents as well because
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it's. Not very often.
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That you watch an English dub where there are like regional
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accent regional. Accents, Cockneys and in this is
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it weird there's Yorkshire. They're supposed to be, well,
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Patrick Stewart is they're also, but the Steam family are
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supposed to be from Manchester and two of them do a man man
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Manchurian. Manchurian.
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They do a Mank accent and then and then Patrick Stew.
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It's just like, do you know what, guys?
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I'm just going to stick with the Yorkshire accent that I was
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raised with. Like he just like, I think he
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just let notes out of it. Yeah, yeah.
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It's just it's all trouble up there when.
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Patrick, I'm sorry, I studied Shakespeare, so I can do what I
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want. Yeah.
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So director, I'm going to come in and I'm going to do it how I
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think it should be done. And it will still be the best
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performance in the in the film, which is, to be fair, by a long
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stretch. But Anna Paquin, someone told
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Anna that she could do an English accent and that was
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unfair and cruel. I feel like it wasn't right.
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Someone should have taken her aside and been like, do you want
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to rethink this? What was?
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Anna Paquin doing at that time, I don't think I know much if
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I've seen what she's in, did she?
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Do like fly Away home or something that film about the
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geese? I don't know.
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Because you remember that film. Oh.
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I remember it, but wasn't it just which, you know, I just
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turned up for a voice acting gig and being like, Oh yeah, I can
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probably deal with a Manchester accent.
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Yeah, probably. It's not too bad.
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And actually, and to be fair is it's not a bad like I thought it
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was a posh southern person doing a man a bank accent.
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And I also didn't recognize it as Anna Panquin.
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So she it is Panquin, Paquin pangolin.
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I didn't recognize it as Anna. I didn't recognize it as Anna.
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So is in terms of acting she's managed to accomplish.
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I fully thought that was a young boy like when doing the Voice.
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So like on some level it is a fairly impressive performance.
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She does a young boy well. Awful, absolutely awful.
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You should be ashamed of yourself.
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But Alfred Molina by far doing doing the best mancaccent.
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But then you do also have like some cockneys, especially during
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the fighting scenes. And at one point someone's like
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cold blind me and I was like no one has ever said blind me in
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that way. Like outside of like an Oliver
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Twist production in Broadway, like it's just, it's very, yeah,
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some of it's very like, we just need to get someone in to do
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this one line. Would then I said that in 1829
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though. Well, maybe, but I don't know if
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they just said it like that. Oh, bloody painful.
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Nearly spilled my jellied eels. Yeah, yeah.
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Fancy a pickled egg? I.
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Love a pickled egg? Don't bash.
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Pickled eggs. We're going down the tub.
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No, I love it. Don't get me wrong, I love a
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pickled egg. IA few weeks ago bought a jar of
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pickled eggs. They were the whole.
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It was one of those huge jars as well, like the Garner's pickled
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eggs. Oh.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Best vinegar, best pickled eggs.
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The jar, huge jar. Ate it in about two days.
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The worst heartburn I've ever had for like a week afterwards.
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It's the price you pay for snacks though.
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Isn't it sometimes you just got a lean in sometimes.
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So what were some of the highlights for you for this
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film? Right.
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So I love wearing doodads, doohickeys and gizmos, and this
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film is full of them. Steam power.
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It's got all of the the crazy, like the the airplanes.
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They've got submarine zeppelins and everything.
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I love that even I wouldn't. I wouldn't even say steam punk
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though. Yeah, walking castles.
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Yeah, Walking Castles Steam. Well, like it's steam powered.
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It's definitely steam powered. It feels like, Yeah, I think
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it's, I think it's as close to steam punk as I've ever seen in
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an anime, for sure. Maybe cyber?
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Very Victorian, yeah. Yeah, but yeah, I really love
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that. And I didn't mind the story as
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well. I've got the animation was
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amazing. Yeah, and the I know we just
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took a pic of the accents, but I quite liked hearing different
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colloquial accents on an anime and it was jarring because I was
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watching on me phone and Molly went pass and she was like, is
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that an anime? Because it's got like a northern
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voice on it. It's weird.
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But actually, and there is something that if you're going
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to say in England, which is I think a place notoriously famous
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for a large variety of accents in a very small country, it
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feels totally right to have to have like some good regional
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accents and then and a pangolin doing.
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That's fair. Like, I quite like, I liked
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that. Yeah.
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It was good that for me, one of the highlights is the was the
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kind of I really, really liked the jet.
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I love a jetpack. I love jetpack.
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I love her flying through. This is one of the reasons I
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love like mech animes and stuff so much.
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I love like a flying through the sky chase.
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There's one bit where like Steamboy, which is actually, I
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think the bit that you like have got on this picture here where
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he's like flying through this like battle that's being waged
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in London and being chased by and like one of his his own
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father's inventions that's trying to like saw it.
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Like it's also got like saw blades.
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It's like it's like a da Vinci flying machine but with saw
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blades on it. I also loved the other highlight
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for me is the where the city's the, the castle when the Okara
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Foundation starts walking and like flying through London,
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George Stevenson like projectiles, these chains onto
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it to like try and like stop it from like going into the centre
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of London basically and taking over.
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And there's this bit where they're like the trains are like
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pulling back like this monumental, like hulking steam
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city. And you've got like Tower Bridge
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in the background. And the chains are what's it
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called? The chains are like straining
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under the weight and stuff. It's so good.
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Yeah, yeah. So I think you're like a note
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for me. There must be some.
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Oh, you're back. You're back.
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Can you hear us? Already.
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Oh, no. Oh.
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My just really, really behind. Okay, yeah, yeah, I can hear
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you. I was getting really into, I was
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just really getting into describing the chains.
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And that's probably like saved everyone from hearing me wax
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lyrical about it because that is one of the best, most dramatic
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scenes. And the music in it gets like
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really like melodramatic and orchestral and it's very
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cinematic and I loved it. And you've got obviously got
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George Stephenson's there. He's rolled up his sleeves like
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a kind of industrial, industrial revolution tycoon.
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And yeah, it's good. Train versus steam power castle.
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Oh no, I've lost. You are you back?
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Hello. There we go.
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Can you hear us? I'm back.
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Sorry. Yeah.
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We'll struggle through it's fine.
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Can. You hear me?
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Yes, I can hear you. This is a good time because
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we've talked about George Stevenson.
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OK, good. We talked about George
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Stevenson. Chris, I know that you went on
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a, you went on a Google, what's it called?
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Like hole. Well, not a very big. 1
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Stevenson. Not a massive 1, just a little
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hole. Tell us, tell us, spit some
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George Stevenson facts at us. Because I actually didn't know
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that this guy was a real guy until I watched this film.
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And you were like, and I was like, is it your uncle or
23:09
something? And then I was like, oh shit,
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no, it's a real guy. No, he's he's like, why?
23:14
Do you care so much? He's the father of real bit,
23:16
right? So he's born in Wylam, which is
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what, 30 minutes away from age, just near Newcastle.
23:23
So father of railways, this is George, not his son Robert, but
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he invented the Stevenson gauge, which became the standard track
23:31
gauge for four feet 8 1/2 inches used worldwide.
23:34
He basically kicked off the Industrial revolution with these
23:37
little train stuff. I think you've frozen.
23:40
So I have no idea how he can hear this.
23:41
And, and, and he came from a. Work class background and
23:45
taught. Himself mechanical engineering,
23:48
starting as a coal miner, so. I know that I'm lagging out, but
23:53
I'm also loving your facts. I heard every single one of your
23:56
facts and I thought, I think it's really cute that you got
24:01
really into it. Yeah, yeah, I loved it.
24:04
I'm just trying trying to get you not to to lag.
24:07
It'll be fine. It'll be fine, yeah.
24:09
I don't think there's much to do The Who is your favorite
24:12
character, Patrick. Stewart, I don't know.
24:15
I kind of like his evil son better.
24:17
I don't know if that's like controversial.
24:20
No, because he had the best lines.
24:22
I think he I know he wasn't, he was evil and he wanted to sell
24:27
his inventions to weapons dealers and horrible weird
24:32
companies. But like he kind of made the
24:36
most sense. Like his granddad was just like,
24:38
oh, I like inventing for the crack.
24:40
And like to a certain extent his son was the same way.
24:44
He just said, oh, I just really like making machines that were
24:47
steam things. And his dad was kind of like,
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well, I want to do this so we can protect ourselves and we can
24:56
make money from this and possibly invent more stuff.
25:01
And there was one point where he was his granddad was trying to
25:05
convince him not to side with the All Cara Foundation.
25:09
And he was like, it's it's too late now.
25:11
They're aware of its, its existence.
25:14
They know that this is possible. So they won't stop until they
25:17
recreate this. So I may as Bill, it may as well
25:21
be the one that that does it. And I was like, as villains go,
25:27
I kind of get it. And there's a kind of redemption
25:30
org at the end where he's just like, oh, well, this is the part
25:34
you made. So let's, let's let the public
25:38
see it. And it was like a merry go round
25:40
and like a fairground thing for all the kids.
25:42
Yeah, so. And he's got a metal on.
25:45
That is that so bleak? And he has got my alarm.
25:50
If you could have a robot arm, would you?
25:52
Course I would like. Do you mean like a in?
25:55
A heartbeat. Like a medical one Or do you
25:58
mean like a for fun? I mean like a for fun steampunk.
26:03
Definitely, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
26:05
I would have a salt shaker in it, a fork, a knife, a grabber.
26:11
Do you know like the ones that used to pick up litter and stuff
26:14
one of them? I know that you could use
26:16
fingers, but it just it's better when it's a grabber.
26:18
Would you want it to like extend so you get the reach of a
26:21
grabber or are you just are you actually just having a less good
26:25
hand that you want the extension inspect A gadget style?
26:29
My ideal arm would be that I don't have to stand up to do
26:33
things. One could be a spanner, one
26:35
could be a hammer, you know? Yeah, yeah.
26:38
Another great bit as well of this film is where he plugs into
26:41
the castle to to pilot it. That's so good.
26:44
That bit gives yeah, all of the yeah, and I know how I.
26:48
Control it, yeah. This is how I pilot it.
26:52
I know we don't talk about Escafloni, but it is like the
26:54
Emperor in his fate machine and it does give me those kind of
26:57
vibes and I do kind of love it of that.
27:00
Like man melding with machine energy.
27:05
So one of the questions the film asks is, what do you think the
27:08
meaning of science is? So, Chris?
27:11
Right, I did have this. What do you think the meaning of
27:13
science is? So I did have Where's it?
27:16
Where's me answer? Or is it?
27:18
Yeah, yeah, right at. The top.
27:20
You just scrolled past it. Yeah, yeah, there we.
27:23
Go Oh yeah, yeah, there it is. To help people.
27:27
So either in a bad way or a good way, whatever the goals is, I
27:32
think it's used to help people either through understanding or
27:37
making improvements or even helping them do bad things.
27:41
It's always to do with helping someone good or bad.
27:44
And I think all advances in science are and fueled from fear
27:51
as well of wanting to do that thing.
27:54
Oh. Deep philosophical.
27:58
I think that's the deepest I'll get.
27:59
Yeah, I like that. I like it.
28:02
But I, I also had thought about this question and my what I've
28:07
come to is that science itself is just the seeking of knowledge
28:11
and understanding of the world around us and our place in it.
28:16
And it is not science itself which give which carries ethics.
28:22
It's just so science is a tool. Ethics are about how are you
28:26
going to apply the knowledge that you learn.
28:29
So it's the ethics and the question of morality of is this
28:32
good science or bad science. Science isn't good or bad.
28:35
How it is applied defines its morality.
28:39
I think how you came to this scientific answer could be
28:44
ethical. Very good point.
28:45
So like because you do have like ethical considerations for
28:48
research and things. Yeah.
28:52
Yeah, thinking let's get deep and steamy I.
28:57
Suspect. Yeah, yeah.
28:59
How did you think it held up in 2025?
29:02
So this was in 2004. What else were we watching in
29:05
2004? Bleach.
29:07
Bleach came out. To be fair, I did look it up
29:12
before this because we got distracted and I can't remember
29:16
what else there was, but how we held up in 2025 because it's set
29:22
in 18, 60 or something. I think it's a time period, so I
29:29
think it will hold up in 20-30. There's no like people act how
29:34
the wood in 1860, so it's not like AI don't know.
29:40
I don't think it ages badly because there's no women getting
29:43
harassed and that kind of stuff. Are you looking up what's what
29:48
came out? Yeah, of course.
29:49
So Teacher's Pet was released by Disney.
29:56
That year, no, never heard of that.
29:59
Apple Appleseed Dance. Right were.
30:04
Released then. Oh, The Batman was released
30:07
first came out in 2004. Yeah, a whole bunch of stuff.
30:11
To be fair, this film did take like 10 years to make.
30:15
Peppa Pig. It's better than Peppa Pig pig.
30:17
Came out it holds up way better than Peppa Pig.
30:21
Yeah, Yeah, it did take 10 years to make.
30:23
So 2004. So 1996, no, something like
30:29
that. Be a long time.
30:32
Yeah, Yukio, Yukio. GX Oh nice.
30:36
It's actually it looks like it was quite quite a slow year for
30:38
really good anime apart from Bleach, which is which is good
30:42
fun. But I agree, I think they're
30:45
kind of the fact that it's like a period piece means it does it.
30:49
I think it holds up better because it's kind of set in a
30:52
very specific time, but also because it's set in a time that
30:56
time it has to thematically grapple with something that
30:59
would still be relevant. Relevant in 2004, which is this
31:03
question around like, like production, industrialisation,
31:09
progress at the expense of humanity.
31:14
And if it's relevant between the Victorian period and 2004, it
31:18
probably will still be relevant like 20 years after.
31:22
Because it's already been. Relevant for the last 100 odd
31:25
years. So yeah, I think you're bang on
31:28
the money with that one. Yeah, apart from I didn't like
31:30
the hitting of the dog. I don't feel like you could do
31:32
that nowadays not and not kill the character that.
31:37
Character didn't happen. Nowadays if they hit a dog.
31:40
Thanks, John Wick. God damn it, John Wick thanks
31:43
John Wick. So that was Steam Boy.
31:48
Thank you for staying with us, Stuart, for the lag.
31:51
Yeah, I think it's happened again.
31:52
I'm trying to sign off. It's been a struggle.
31:55
It's been a struggle. I think it is as our computers
31:59
are as tired as us and we're middle age now, So what are we
32:05
going to watch next? Week, I have no idea you.
32:10
Threw around some ideas. Yeah.
32:13
We threw around some ideas we haven't actually like pinned
32:15
something down. I'm my vote is for the Nyan cat
32:21
zombie apocalypse or whatever it is.
32:23
Yes. Life of the Living.
32:24
Whatever can't Do you want to save off?
32:27
Do you want to save up for October?
32:29
We could do that means we can move one of the other October
32:31
ones that we've got planned into next week if you want.
32:36
Yeah, we can try. Really.
32:38
Cute. Soon.
32:38
Weird. Up to you.
32:39
We'll see. She would decide off off camera
32:42
and then just surprise. Oh, surprise episode.
32:46
Yeah. All right.
32:47
Yeah, yeah. Sounds good.
32:49
Let's do that. Cool.
32:50
Thank you everyone. Cheers for.
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33:00
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33:03
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