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VMA’s, DWTS, Saints, Sinners and Housewives · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 1: Heather MacDonald has got the Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 2: When you're on the road, when you're on.
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  Speaker 3: The go, Juicy Scoop is the show to know.
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  Speaker 1: She talks Hollywood tales for real life, Mr.
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  Speaker 2: Saving Serial Data and Serial Sisters. You'll be addicted and addicted.
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  Speaker 4: Fast to the number one tabloid real life podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Listen in, listen up. Woo, woo. Heather MacDonald. Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. As always, so much
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  Speaker 2: Juicy Scoop and hot topics to get into. I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to go through them all, including my fun, exciting Hollywood
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  Speaker 2: party that I went to. And then I will get
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  Speaker 2: into the real drama that's happening over in Bravo land.
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  Speaker 1: Christmas shopping has already started in our house. My daughter
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  Speaker 1: is so organised, already planning Christmas gifts from Macaulay. Hair
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  Speaker 1: care for her aunt and a fab fragrance for her bestie.
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  Speaker 1: But the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. I'm
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  Speaker 1: an early bird, buying one present a week from now
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  Speaker 1: till Christmas, which makes budgeting less stressful. I can buy
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  Speaker 1: in-store or online from Macaulay.ie for home delivery or free
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  Speaker 1: click and collect.
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  Speaker 2: So easy.
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  Speaker 1: Gifts they'll cherish at prices you'll love.
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  Speaker 2: But first, it started off in Bravo Land because I
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  Speaker 2: went to a party celebrating Nikki Hilton's jewelry line called
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  Speaker 2: Theo Grace at the beautiful home of Kathy Hilton. I
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  Speaker 2: get into more details behind the scenes, of course, on
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  Speaker 2: my Patreon, which you can always join at heathermcdoll.net. But
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  Speaker 2: I never really know what to expect if it's going
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  Speaker 2: to be... I've been there when it's just been a
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  Speaker 2: low-key shopping event for her shoe line and for Kathy's
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  Speaker 2: jewelry line. So I didn't know what this was going
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  Speaker 2: to be. And it was filmed for the Real Housewives.
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  Speaker 2: And I got to see all of them and talk
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  Speaker 2: to many of them. They were looking gorgeous. I found
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  Speaker 2: out later that I believe that was one of the
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  Speaker 2: last quote unquote filming days for the season. And then
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  Speaker 2: later on, on Saturday, Alexia, their second daughter, well, I
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  Speaker 2: think she is the oldest daughter between Kyle and Mauricio
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  Speaker 2: because Farrah was from a previous marriage. She got married.
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  Speaker 2: She was a really adorable, very type A personality who
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  Speaker 2: was featured on Buying Beverly Hills as Mauricio's daughter. She
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  Speaker 2: got married and through People Magazine, there's some photos floating
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  Speaker 2: around and ones that she's shared. And it looked like
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  Speaker 2: a really fun, fabulous wedding. And the only photos I
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  Speaker 2: saw of housewives that did go were a photo of
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  Speaker 2: Lisa Renna and Teddy Mellencamp and then Erica Jane, who,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, I talked to Erica Jane and I said,
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  Speaker 2: I really like that you're dating Spencer Pratt's friend. you know,
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  Speaker 2: the former Navy SEAL or whatever goes by Shrek, but
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  Speaker 2: in a hot way guy. And they're still going strong.
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  Speaker 2: So I said, I really like that for you. I
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  Speaker 2: think it's time you have like a manly man. And
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  Speaker 2: she was really cool and looking great. I really like
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  Speaker 2: the what's going on with Erika Jayne and her life
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  Speaker 2: now after it's been a few years since All the
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  Speaker 2: shit went down. So I think all the ladies look great.
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  Speaker 2: There were a couple new ladies there who I did
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  Speaker 2: not talk to. So I think it's going to be
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  Speaker 2: a great season. I heard it wouldn't be airing till
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  Speaker 2: like January. But for more of that, sorry, you're going
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  Speaker 2: to have to go over there. But It was great
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  Speaker 2: seeing everybody and the wedding looked spectacular for Alexia. I
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  Speaker 2: do not think it was filmed for the four Real
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  Speaker 2: Housewives of Beverly Hills. In fact, I'm like 99% sure
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  Speaker 2: it was not. And I don't know which of the
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  Speaker 2: other Hiltons and stuff went because then last night I
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  Speaker 2: saw that Nikki Hilton and Paris were on the red
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  Speaker 2: carpet at the VMAs, which is in New York City.
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  Speaker 2: And the wedding, I think, was Saturday night. However, you
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  Speaker 2: could make both. So I'm assuming they attended since it
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  Speaker 2: seems like everything's good with the Hiltons and Kyle Richards' family.
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  Speaker 2: So- Yeah, it was really, really fun and a beautiful event.
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  Speaker 2: And check out her jewelry because I really like it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm wearing one of the gold butterflies here, but it's
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  Speaker 2: these really cool lockets that then you can, when you
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  Speaker 2: order them, you can put in a photo. So then
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  Speaker 2: the locket automatically has the photo of your family or
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  Speaker 2: your pet or your child when you get it. So anyway,
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  Speaker 2: I loved it. And it was very nice past apps,
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  Speaker 2: beautiful day, beautiful decor. I ran into Denise Richards, who's
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  Speaker 2: always so sweet. She's one of my favorite interviews I've
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  Speaker 2: ever done here on Juicy Scoop. And she looked great.
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  Speaker 2: And so we talked a little bit and I just said,
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  Speaker 2: I'm so sorry you're going through all this. with your
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  Speaker 2: divorce from Aaron. And I'm like, full disclosure, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm covering it on Juicy Scoop. And she was just
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  Speaker 2: such a, so great and such an open face sandwich
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  Speaker 2: about it all. And she said that the ladies have
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  Speaker 2: been extremely supportive of her and of the whole situation.
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  Speaker 2: It's been really lovely. And I said, I mean, what
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  Speaker 2: a nightmare. I go, I can't believe you're going through
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  Speaker 2: this again. She's like, I know that's why I, that's
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  Speaker 2: why it should have happened earlier and it wasn't happening
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  Speaker 2: because I never wanted to go through another awful divorce. Now,
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  Speaker 2: of course she is friendly with, um, Charlie and has
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  Speaker 2: been for quite a while and they're on really great terms. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: she went to the premiere Charlie's documentary, which comes out
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  Speaker 2: September 10th is making headlines for some of the very
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  Speaker 2: revealing things that he talks about in it. Um, For
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  Speaker 2: people like me, we remember when he had his full breakdown,
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  Speaker 2: when he was at the height of his career of
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  Speaker 2: two and a half men, where he was talking about
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  Speaker 2: tiger's blood.
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  Speaker 3: He went on.
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  Speaker 2: he literally went on like a standup tour because he
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  Speaker 2: was every day. It was just a crazy thing that
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  Speaker 2: we were reporting on on Chelsea lately about what was
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  Speaker 2: going on. And, you know, he always had like a
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  Speaker 2: crazy dating life. I believe he was, he dated a
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  Speaker 2: very famous porn star for a long time that he
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  Speaker 2: was going to marry or wanted to marry. And then,
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  Speaker 2: then he married beautiful Denise Richards. And for, I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: maybe a year and a half. It seemed pretty blissful.
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  Speaker 2: She left him when she was pregnant with the second daughter.
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  Speaker 2: Then he married this woman, Brooke. And she has been
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  Speaker 2: in and out of rehab like 21 times. But in
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  Speaker 2: Denise's new show, which I don't know that that's coming
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  Speaker 2: back on Bravo and E, about her life with her daughters.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my God, it's just fly. It's back. Oh my God, wait. Oh, jeez. Two. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: You guys, whenever there's two flies hanging out on a set,
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  Speaker 2: I do think it's my parents. I just want to
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  Speaker 2: be part of the fun, but we trapped one of
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  Speaker 2: them in a glass and now the other one is
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  Speaker 2: hanging out. Okay. We can keep that. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Who cares? Getting back to it, Charlie's led a crazy
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  Speaker 2: life and lots of women, lots of sex, lots of
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  Speaker 2: drug use, lots of craziness on his part. And he
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  Speaker 2: reveals in the documentary that comes out on September 10th
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  Speaker 2: that he had sex with men. And it was during
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  Speaker 2: a time when he was using crack. And I really
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  Speaker 2: cannot wait to watch it and see how he speaks
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  Speaker 2: about it. I commend the honesty there. There has been
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  Speaker 2: rumors about this kind of behavior and other things that
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  Speaker 2: are even more upsetting that I will, sorry, talk about
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  Speaker 2: on Patreon because it's just too crazy juicy, but it
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  Speaker 2: involves the two Corys. Anyway, so she looked great. She's
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  Speaker 2: doing great, still trying to get Aaron's family out of
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  Speaker 2: the property that they've been living in for four years,
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  Speaker 2: the brother and the parents, and get them on their way.
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  Speaker 2: It's very frustrating for us to hear what she's going through.
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  Speaker 2: He is asking for spousal support. She then in turn
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  Speaker 2: asked for spousal support from him. I think just to
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  Speaker 2: counteract that claim, I don't know. I'm not a divorce
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  Speaker 2: attorney because he says I don't have a job and
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  Speaker 2: I have no income. You know, there's been so many
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  Speaker 2: accounts of what he's done, said horrible things about her
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  Speaker 2: in the press, about her being a mother. Supposedly, he
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  Speaker 2: did want to adopt Eloise, who was her adopted child
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  Speaker 2: that she adopted as a single woman. And she filed,
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  Speaker 2: allegedly filed the paperwork wrong. So he is not the
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  Speaker 2: biological father of that child, which not biological. So he's
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  Speaker 2: not the adoptive father. It's only her, which is interesting, too.
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  Speaker 2: I I wonder if that's part of this divorce so
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  Speaker 2: that he would have regular custodial visits and and therefore
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  Speaker 2: she would have to pay child support if he was
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  Speaker 2: officially the dad. So, you know, if she can get
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  Speaker 2: out of spousal support, could he get child support, even though.
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  Speaker 2: She adopted this child as a single woman and there
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  Speaker 2: is no legal adoption on his part. So it's a big,
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  Speaker 2: awful mess. But she's just as delightful and down to
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  Speaker 2: earth as ever. And I made a joke about the
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  Speaker 2: backwards jacket. So no more of that. And so we'll see.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see what it is, Doreen. was there. She was
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  Speaker 2: probably ordering her three carcass out lemon vodka drinks and
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  Speaker 2: you know, all of it is, it was great. It
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  Speaker 2: was a real fun time. Okay. So then we have, um,
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  Speaker 2: the craziest thing that happened with a Karen who has
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  Speaker 2: gone rogue. A Karen in the worst way. I am
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  Speaker 2: on a campaign to make Karens great again because I
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  Speaker 2: have a friend named Karen and I have a sister-in-law
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  Speaker 2: named Karen and they are both great, smart, fabulous women.
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  Speaker 2: This woman, we don't know her name, but she was
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  Speaker 2: at a Phillies game and a ball fell into the
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  Speaker 2: stands and everybody went on the ground to grab it
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  Speaker 2: and this man fair and squarely grabbed it on the
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  Speaker 2: ground before this woman did. Who has like, remember at
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  Speaker 2: the height of Kate Gosling's fandom with her eight, Kate
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  Speaker 2: plus eight, and she had that really bad haircut. It's
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  Speaker 2: like that, but worse. It's like blonde on the top
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  Speaker 2: and like dark in the back. And he goes over,
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  Speaker 2: gets the ball, goes right to his like eight-year-old son
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  Speaker 2: and gives him the ball. And then she comes up
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  Speaker 2: and he's like, whoa. And she's screaming at him. There's
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  Speaker 2: been so many fans that have gotten even a closer
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  Speaker 2: look at her and what she's saying. And she's like, no,
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  Speaker 2: you took it from me. You took it. She's claiming
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  Speaker 2: like it was in her hand and he took it.
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  Speaker 2: There's no way for us to really know that from
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  Speaker 2: the footage I saw. Still, he has a kid, you don't. Like,
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  Speaker 2: what the fuck is your problem? Anyway, he, I believe,
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  Speaker 2: did the right thing and immediately said to his son, like, sorry,
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  Speaker 2: and gave her the ball because she was acting like
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  Speaker 2: a lunatic. There has been memes and things like, or,
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  Speaker 2: you know, who, you know, is he a beta male?
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  Speaker 2: Was that wrong that he gave it back? And most
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  Speaker 2: of the comments are the way I feel like, no,
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  Speaker 2: you're showing your son that he's Even if you're right,
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  Speaker 2: it's not worth it. You don't want to get in
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  Speaker 2: an argument with someone that is this unhinged. She is
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  Speaker 2: a woman as well. And that's being a gentleman. That's
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  Speaker 2: being the bigger person. And also that's protecting yourself. It
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  Speaker 2: turned out great. The team heard about it, gave him
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  Speaker 2: a signed bat, brought him back into practice. I know
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  Speaker 2: it's not called backstage, but whatever locker room met the players,
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  Speaker 2: you know, somebody else offered them some very generous gift
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  Speaker 2: for their family to enjoy. And I don't know where
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  Speaker 2: this woman is. I have not found if like she
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  Speaker 2: has a job and what that I want to know
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  Speaker 2: what her job is. So please comment on my YouTube.
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  Speaker 2: Please subscribe to my YouTube and comment. What is her job?
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  Speaker 2: Has she tried to defend herself? What is happening? So
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  Speaker 2: that was a great viral baseball moment, Phillies. Kristen Cabot,
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  Speaker 2: who is the other famous girl of the summer, who
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  Speaker 2: was at the Coldplay concert with the guy she was
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  Speaker 2: working with, hugging her behind when the big camera caught them.
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  Speaker 2: She has reportedly filed for divorce, according to TMZ, from
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  Speaker 2: her husband. And Yeah, I'm not surprised. And what a moment.
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  Speaker 2: You know what? I know we joke about how many
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  Speaker 2: documentaries are out. And for people that have followed pop
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  Speaker 2: culture and for the last 30 years, it is annoying
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  Speaker 2: that there's no new documentaries about something I don't already
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  Speaker 2: know about. But this will be a documentary too. And
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  Speaker 2: you know what? Can we at least wait 10 years
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  Speaker 2: for this doc to come out, please? Please. Unless some
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  Speaker 2: real juicy fallout happens. You know, if they just have
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  Speaker 2: some clean divorces and she's left the company and whatever.
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  Speaker 2: But I don't really think this constitutes a Netflix doc.
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  Speaker 2: So Netflix exec that listened to Juicy Scoop, we don't
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  Speaker 2: need to see this documentary. This is weird as fuck.
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  Speaker 2: A surgeon named Dr. Hopper He had a sexual obsession
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  Speaker 2: for amputee porn. And he had his own legs cut
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  Speaker 2: off for a $ 600, 000 insurance payday. And he is facing
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  Speaker 2: charges for insurance fraud. How sick is this shit, okay?
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  Speaker 2: Can you imagine he had his own legs cut off?
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  Speaker 2: It was like a double whammy. Like he was into
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  Speaker 2: amputee porn. He then became an amputee and then he
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  Speaker 2: got 600K from the insurance scam of saying like he
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  Speaker 2: needed his legs cut off and he didn't. And he
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  Speaker 2: did some weird thing where he like, I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: made them super cold or something in which then he
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  Speaker 2: could constitute having them removed. It was real weird. So,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and this person's a doctor like this, which
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  Speaker 2: we all think you know, is one of the highest,
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  Speaker 2: most difficult jobs to get. What a weirdo.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
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  Speaker 3: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
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  Speaker 3: have faced tremendous setbacks, and yet somehow have found a
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  Speaker 3: way to turn them into their greatest strengths.
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  Speaker 2: Life is one long lesson of chaos. I'm heading to
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  Speaker 2: the Emmys, and I have police complaints filed against me.
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  Speaker 2: When your free will was about to be taken from you,
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  Speaker 2: what would you.
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  Speaker 3: Do if it was given back? Where did that need
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  Speaker 3: come from where you thought that you had to succeed
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  Speaker 3: in order to feel loved?
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  Speaker 2: He said, I have a work dad. I need a
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  Speaker 2: home dad. What happens next?
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  Speaker 3: When I came in, he started crying. Everybody in life
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  Speaker 3: encounters hardships. What defines them is not those hard moments
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  Speaker 3: that they go through. It's about what happens next.
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  Speaker 2: I decided to risk it all. I realized how valuable
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  Speaker 2: every day was. You're worth the work.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, Dara, I'm not going to pull punches.
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  Speaker 2: You can use your voice even if it's shaped.
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  Speaker 3: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
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  Speaker 3: Only one question matters. What happens next?
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  Speaker 2: OK, then we get to the VMAs last night. They
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  Speaker 2: were in New York City. And you know what? No,
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  Speaker 2: you guys, I am going to report on it. And no,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't watch it. OK, I didn't. I just don't
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  Speaker 2: care enough to sit through a long award show anymore
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  Speaker 2: about music. However, I looked at the red carpet fashions
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  Speaker 2: and I watched the highlights of the performances. And I'll
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  Speaker 2: give you a little rundown on it so then you
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  Speaker 2: at least know what happened last night. Most importantly, the
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  Speaker 2: two Hunting Wives lesbians stars came on the red carpet
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  Speaker 2: looking great and wigless. So that was nice. So they
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  Speaker 2: were looking good. And Brittany Snow and I forgot the
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  Speaker 2: other girl's name, the main star. Anyway, they they looked great.
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  Speaker 2: I definitely think there's going to be a second season.
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  Speaker 2: It's based on a book. And even if there isn't
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  Speaker 2: more to the story, they're going to keep these characters
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  Speaker 2: going because it was such a big hit. in some
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  Speaker 2: New Jersey news on the carpet, because there were a
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  Speaker 2: lot of reality stars there. It's New York City. It's
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  Speaker 2: the VMAs. It's a red carpet, you know. But Danielle Cabral,
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  Speaker 2: she has only been on the show, Real Housewives of
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  Speaker 2: New Jersey, for a couple of years. And the scoop
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  Speaker 2: there is that she said they're doing testing with new
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  Speaker 2: housewives where they're just doing scenes to see if these
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  Speaker 2: girls would work out, if there's a connection with Melissa Gorga, Dolores,
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  Speaker 2: and Margaret Josephs. Teresa is not part of that. However,
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: would you necessarily need a Teresa at that level to
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  Speaker 2: do the hard work of doing scenes for free? Or
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  Speaker 2: does that mean she really isn't going to be coming back?
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  Speaker 2: Because the only friends she really has are like, I
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  Speaker 2: don't even know who she's friends with anymore because the
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  Speaker 2: Jennifer Aiden is not coming back based on her Jersey
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  Speaker 2: Mike's behavior. I mean, listen, that was bad. But when
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  Speaker 2: you think about like, if she could have like forever,
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  Speaker 2: is that going to be her story? Like, oh, I
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  Speaker 2: was a housewife and then I got fired. Oh, why
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  Speaker 2: did you get fired? Oh, because I was really fucking
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  Speaker 2: horrible to a Jersey Mike's person at seven in the morning.
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  Speaker 2: with tuna fish sandwiches, which is a crime in itself.
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  Speaker 2: Who the fuck orders a tuna fish sandwich at seven
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  Speaker 2: in the morning and puts it on a plane to
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  Speaker 2: the Bahamas? With my family on New Year's Day. So
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: people are hungover on a flight and then smelling your
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  Speaker 2: tuna fish sandwich. But anyway, she was very, very rude
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  Speaker 2: to the people working there. And it all got found
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  Speaker 2: out because she told it herself. She was one of
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: those people that was like, oh my God, to my followers, everybody, like,
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: look how, can you believe that this person who's making
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: minimum wage making my sandwich on New Year's Day, whatever,
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: didn't treat me like the queen that I am. So,
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: I don't know that she'll ever recover from that. She
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: was supposed to go on the Wives by the Sea,
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: that special cruise, which is going to be Dolores, Teresa,
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: Jennifer Aiden. Jennifer Aiden got the boot from the Jersey
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Mike scandal and was placed by Shannon Bedore. That has
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: been canceled. People don't know if it's been canceled because
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: nobody signed up or because actually Dolores is going to
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: be busy filming with or without Teresa. We don't know. Anyway,
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: she was pretty classy about her answer. She's like, oh,
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: they're looking at new people and a shakeup will be good.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: And she's being smart about it. She certainly is not
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: guaranteed coming back. Doesn't seem like she even will, but
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: she's being classy about it, showing up on the red carpet,
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: being relevant, doing interviews and, you know, saying like, I
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: trust whatever the producers want will be the best for
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: everyone involved and how good very smart thing to do. Um,
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: there are some other, you know, fun fashions. I am,
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: I'm going to say it, you guys, I've been saying
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: it for a while. I am ready. Can we do
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: a movement to stop the sunset, the swimsuit sheer long
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: coverups that you'd wear around a pool with your bikini underneath?
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Can that stop being black tie attire? Please. Um, It's
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: just not that original. I don't think it's an aha
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: moment anymore. I don't think it's like, ooh, look, I
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: can see your, you know, I can see your camel
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: toe or I can see your vagina, you know, cleavage. Literally,
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: like you're wearing like, you know, I don't know. I just,
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: I don't, we can see your butt crack. Okay. Ooh,
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: your belly button is showing. I don't know. Good body,
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: bad body. It's just not that original anymore. And I
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: think we need to move past it. And it's been
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: a thing for like three years. So I think it's
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: done its time. I really do. Alex Earl wore a
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: hot dress, a short hot dress. She got a real tiny,
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: good body with a nice boob job. And it was
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: a very extreme side tit shot. And I think that's good.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: I think that's great for her. She, I did not
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: even realize, is doing Dancing with the Stars 2. So
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: is Hilaria Baldwin. And some people do not think it's
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: fair that Hilaria Baldwin is doing it because she has
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: such an extensive dance background. She was doing ballroom dance
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: when she decided to become Spanish and hang out where...
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Alec Baldwin was enjoying vegan food and speak loudly in
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: a Spanish accent when she knew he was obsessed with
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Selma Hayek on 30 Rock and try to win his
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: heart over what she succeeded at. According to Juliana Huff,
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: the rumor is that she was campaigning for that for
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: a long time to get herself on. And she really
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: is a great dancer. Like she really is. She's very
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: fit and she knows how to do ballroom dancing. So
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: is that fair? And I'm like, yeah, I do.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: I do.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Because if you're in the past, you've had professional ice
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: skaters and they've won and you've had like boy band
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: dancers that have then done it. So I think it's fine.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: You know what? It's a personal vote too. So then
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: don't vote for her if you don't want her to win.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: The two mom top girls are doing it. Everyone's body
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: gets so snatched, you know, and those girls just had babies.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: So like this, how great is that? They're just going
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: to get their body snatched, dancing around. And it's kind
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: of fun because the one girl, Jennifer Affleck, her husband
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: got so upset that she went to like Magic Mike
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: or Chippendales or whatever in Vegas in one of the storylines.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: And I think they're doing something with that dance or something.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Like I said- I'm not going to
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: be totally watching it, you guys. But that's what happened
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: with Dancing with the Stars. Now, but, you know, along
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: with Hilaria Baldwin, yeah, she'll have the Baldinos, the little,
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: you know, kids in the, you know, watching her. And
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that show is going to continue.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: But talk about someone that made lemonade out of lemons.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, we really thought she was done when everyone
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: was like, I can't believe she tried to be a
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Spanish person all this time. Now she just doesn't really
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: talk about it and just loves Spanish stuff. And it's
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: still around. And the husband needs her to make the
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: money because he's old and nobody wants him doing Westerns anymore.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: So there you go. A lot of people talked about
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Jessica Simpson. Oh my God, what's her face? She's unrecognizable.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: What do you guys want? You know what I mean?
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: She looked good. People get some shit done. It could
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: be a tight pony. It could be a facelift. Who cares?
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: She looked good. Good for her. Mariah Carey sang and
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: got this award and was kind of like sassy about
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: finally getting the award. And then people were reporting that
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: she like did a fake hit of this dancer, which
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: I guess is homage to an old music video that
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: she did. Lots of sexy dances from the big stars.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: And then Lady Gaga came out and she had to
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: go right over to Madison Square Garden because she already
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: had a concert set there. So her performance was pre-taped.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: And it's so theatrical and it's very... Red and satanic.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: I just think that's dramatic. I don't know. Some people
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: could fight me on it. It's what she does. She's
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: got these weird hands and it's part of the song
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: and she's such a great, it's a, it's a great show.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: She's a great performer and she never, she never dials
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: it in. So I'll give her that. Meanwhile, Britney Spears
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: was just dancing in her house in a little lingerie
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: dress and And it was sad. It was sad because
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: there was a lot of references to the performances, whether
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: it was Sabrina Carpenter or whatever, like people thinking it
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: was great. And then there'd be comments like we this
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: is so much like Christina Aguilera and Britney Spears who
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: did it first, who did it better. Like our millennial
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: girls are better than these Gen Z's. I don't know.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, they're all very talented. The songs are great.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: They put on great performances. It seemed like, again, nobody
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: dialed it in. I mean, there was a time, that
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: one performance where Britney did really dial it in. But
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: for the most part, she's always delivered. Well, now she
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: is just doing her all at her home and posting
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: on Instagram. And the fact that it appeared last night,
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: and it is my knowledge that it appeared during the VMAs,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: She might've not even known the VMAs was going on
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: and she just felt like dancing. I don't know. It
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: was just like, but then again, who cares? You've done
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: it all. You don't have to get all dressed up
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: to show you can, you're still going to get a
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: million people or more to watch this video of you
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: dancing in your house. So go dance in your foyer
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: with your brown sensible pumps and fedora. Okay. You guys,
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: This is some exciting Catholic news. As you know, I
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: am Catholic, okay? And I've had a wonderful relationship with
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: doing my Catholic education, my children, going to church, getting
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: married in the church, all of it. We have a
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: new saint that was announced yesterday and it is a millennial. Yes, he,
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: this man, It's St. Carlos Akitas. And he was a
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: teenage boy. He would be, you know, a millennial today.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: He only, I think he passed like, I think like
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: 20 years ago when he was only 15. And he
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: was very religious, much more religious than his own mom.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: He got his mom to convert to Catholicism or to
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: go back to the church into Catholicism. And he was
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: a really amazing computer programmer and was like, just had
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: a real gift for computers. And this was 20 years ago.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: So this was, you know, the internet was not what
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: it was today. And he was just amazing. adamant in
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: finishing this web project that involved all these miracles involving
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: the Eucharist over time into history. And he wanted to
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: get it out there. Then at 15, he contracted leukemia
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: and after that shortly died and he has been canonized.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: He is a actual saint and his mother was there for,
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: for it. for the Pope. And I mean, I've never
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: seen anything like this. I never remember even really being
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: aware in my lifetime of someone becoming a saint. And
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: for those of you that don't understand what saints are
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: throughout history, you know, we've had these saints. And when
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: you get oftentimes your middle name or your first name
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: might be named after a saint and there's saints that
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: do different that are who you might want to pray to. Now,
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: other religions think the whole praying to a saint is
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: like wrong, but In creating the saints, it's like there
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: is a saint who you pray to named Anthony. If
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: you lose something or forget something and there's like a
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: cute little prayer to it, there is St. Joseph who,
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: if you can't sell your house, you take a St.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Joseph statue and you bury it in your property and
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: supposedly it'll sell. As someone who was a realtor her
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: whole life and my parents were Catholic, we never did that. So,
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's that kind of like... stuff like that,
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: that we haven't really participated in, but we would pray
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: to St. Anthony if we couldn't find something like a
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: jewelry or something important. And so this, you know, and there,
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: so I'm just explaining it as simply as I can.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: Very unique, different thing and kind of a really exciting
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: time for the church. We have an American Pope. Now
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: we have our first millennial saint and his good deed
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: involved the internet. So it was the first saint that
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: did something amazing on the Internet for the Catholic Church. Very,
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: very unique. Okay. This is a horrible nightmare story. And
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: I talk about Amanda Knox with my sister Shannon on
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: tomorrow's episode of Juicy Crimes. I hope you have subscribed.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: I hope that you have left a review, especially if
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: you like it, and you've shared it with somebody. It's
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: every Wednesday, Juicy Crimes. And tomorrow's episode is all about
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: the story of Amanda Knox, who, by the way, little
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: new thing happened over the weekend. She did stand up. Yes,
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Amanda Knox, the one-time accused murderer. She was a college
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: student in Italy when her roommate was found dead and
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: she was accused and convicted and all the nightmare that happened.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: which leads us to her special series on Hulu and
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: her doing standup today, we discuss. But she did do
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: standup and it was a solid set. I saw a
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: clip of it. I follow her. It was a solid set.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know if she'll continue doing it. I don't
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: know if it was just, you know, someone helped her
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: write it or she wrote it or if she's really
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: gonna like pursue it for real, but good for her.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: My God. I mean, so we talk a lot my sister, Shannon,
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: the defense attorney, Shannon McDonnell Goldstein, about how stories throughout
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: my life that have been about someone being locked up
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: abroad are so terrifying to me. There is a beautiful
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: law student from the UK who has been sentenced to
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: 25 years in Dubai, a Dubai prison, which is, according
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: to New York Post, horrible conditions. Actual sexual assaults happen
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: all the time on these women over a coke bust.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: And she they're trying to do a fund. They're trying
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: to get her out. But she has been sentenced to
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: 25 years in Dubai. Now, Amanda Knox was in Italy
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: and that was horrific. But I would think a woman
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: in Dubai trying to get that done, supposedly the whole
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: trial or whatever, the sentencing was like all in Arabic,
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: which she doesn't speak. Again, don't do coke. Don't hang
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: out with people that do coke. Don't carry anything with
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: somebody else. She was with a friend and the friend's
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: boyfriend and somehow the coke was found. on her person
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: and it was enough to be seen as possibly selling it.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: What a nightmare. So watch out. Oh, this is an
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: interesting story. So Matthew McConaughey, who is always a delight, okay,
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: and a happy dad and has been married to his
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: wife for a long time. And he has a real
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: good looking son named Levi. So Levi is starring in
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: a movie on Apple called The Lost Bus, which is,
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: I didn't know what this was about, but it is
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: a scripted show about the true story of what happened
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: during the Paradise Fires in Northern California back in like
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: 2018 that were just devastating, much like the Palisades Fire.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Hope you guys are following Spencer Pratt. Okay. Anyway. there
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: were these kids and they were on a bus and
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: he plays the bus driver and then America Fiera plays
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: the teacher. And it's like from their perspective of trying
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: to get these kids out and safe in these horrific
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: conditions while they're in the school bus, like without their
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: parents and their whole town's being burned down. And so
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Matthew McConaughey said, I made sure that when the director
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: looked at my son's audition tape that he didn't know
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: the last name. And he loved his acting ability and
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: then said, oh, by the way, this is McConaughey's son.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: And the director said, even better. Great. You know, but
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: I would have hired him anyway. I don't know if
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: that's true or not. I don't really care. I've talked
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: about Nepo baby acting, and I do believe that just
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: like if you're come from a family of doctors, you're
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: probably pretty good at science. And if you're hearing about
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: if your dad's a contractor, you're probably more likely to
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: be handy because. it's in your blood, but also you're
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: learning about tools and things to do. So I think
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: that acting is the same thing, but of course this
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: job has, you know, real connections, but you probably are
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: a good actor. You're good looking. And so I, you know,
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: this is a huge role for someone that hasn't really
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: done much. So do I think, would someone even get
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: to the stage of having their audition tape be in
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: there for a leading role of an Apple series if
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: there wasn't a ton of credits behind this person, unless
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: they got to make sure that it got seen. So
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: I think, yes, he probably does a great job in it.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: I don't think the guy knew that he was McConaughey's son.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: But being McConaughey's son got him to the place for
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: the director to see it. That's what I think about that.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: But he's a good looking guy. I like Matthew McConaughey
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: and the movie sounds good. So we'll watch it. This
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: was some depressing, gross news. Last comic standing, this guy won,
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: I think in like 2009, John Reap. Southern comic, redhead, 53.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Arrested for child.
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: Corn.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: Yes. You know what I mean? I have to watch
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: the words I say here. It appears like it's having
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: materials on, you know, either he sent them or had
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: them on his devices. They were those devices. He was arrested.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: He's out on bail. He was supposed to perform a
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: couple of days ago in like North Carolina. I don't
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: know if that happened. but that's what he's facing is
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: some type of possession on, you know, devices, computers, sending
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: it through the internet, whatever. Real gross and real depressing. Okay.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: Pamela Anderson, she won an award. She accepted her career
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: achievement tribute at the Deauville American Film Festival. And her
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: speech was confusing. So there was an article out last
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: week that TMZ was saying that upon good sources or whatever,
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: that the Pamela Anderson romance with Liam Neeson, since they
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: both starred in Naked Gun, was a publicity stunt to
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: get us to want to go see the movie. And
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: it's something that I had questioned if it was real
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: or not. It was fun to think, oh my God,
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: here are two people. They're in a movie together. They're
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: age appropriate. He's a widower. Remember his beautiful wife didn't
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: wear a helmet and hit her head while skiing down
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: the bunny slope with her two boys and then made
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: the mistake of not going to the hospital because she
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: didn't want to ruin the boy's ski trip. She passed.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know that he's been with anyone that significant
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: since her. So she has two boys, Brandon and Dylan,
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: and then he has two boys. So they're all at
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: the premiere together with their 20-something sons. So it looked great.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: But then there was talk of this, and she basically says,
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: She didn't say this, not a publicity stunt, but she
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: kind of like dances around it and said, I would
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: never play games with my love life. I love with
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: my heart. And now here's the tricky part. Even when
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: she was on Watch What Happens Live, Andy asked her
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: about it or asked him about it. And I can't
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: remember if Liam was on too. And he goes, I
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: know you can't answer, but we love it. And it's like,
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: ha ha. So she never said, yes, we're in love. Yes,
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: we're dating. She let the publicity happen. She didn't deny it.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: She didn't go on Juicy Scoop and say, no, Heather.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: We're not dating. So then she does a speech saying,
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: I would never do that. So I don't know. I
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: still don't know. Are they dating or not? I feel like,
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: was he your date on the carpet for this? I
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: think she kind of allowed it to happen. And now
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: she's like, I don't want to be known for someone
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: that does that. That's what I think. But also fake,
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: fake things are happening here. Abby, Hansel's husband. Abby is
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: one of two of the conjoined twins. These are the
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: two girls that, you know, they have one body and
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: two heads. And one of the girls fell in love.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: And the other one is along for the ride. That's okay. Sorry.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: It's true. It's fine. They've been on TV. They, you know,
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: it is what it is. And they're having a happy life.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: the three of them. Anyway, there is a TikTok account
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: that is just grabbing footage from their Facebook and their
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: family's Facebook. And now the husband's saying, that is not
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: our TikTok. That is a fake TikTok. And one of
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: the things that this fake TikTok account posted was the
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: girls carrying a child into a car, like a car seat. Again,
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: he didn't say, yes, we've adopted a child or we
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: don't have a child or this is just a friend's
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: child that they were babysitting. I mean, they were teachers
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: or are teachers. So obviously they would probably be great
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: caring for a child. I mean, it takes a village
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: or two moms or whatever you want to call it. Anyway,
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you'd be a very involved aunt
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: is all I'm saying if it was one of the
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: girl's child. I mean, if they get a child... I
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: think they both got to be– I mean, how do
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: you just decide that one is the mom and one isn't? And,
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, obviously I don't think they could carry a child.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know. But, you know, some aunts overstep their boundaries.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, how can you not? Okay. But I don't
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: know if they have a kid or not, but that's
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: just an interesting concept if they do.
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: Little update. Kelly Wolf, who we've been watching her have
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: a very difficult time with her divorce from Scott Wolf, who,
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: by the way, is first cousins with my friend Josh Wolf. And,
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: you know, they had a marriage for a long time.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: They have three kids. She was posting a lot about
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: him being abusive and all this other stuff. And From
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: what she was sharing, it really looked like she was
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: the one that was at least verbally abusive and spiraling
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: for some reason. She has entered a rehab. After an
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: arrest and the messy split, her children then, I think
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: her oldest son had to post something defending his dad.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: And so Billy Bush, of all people, That's because he
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: was mentioned so much on my first episode of Juicy Crimes.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: He was good friends with both of them and, you know,
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: was trying to say she's a good mother. She just
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: needs help. So hopefully she'll get help and be able to,
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: you know, continue being a very active parent. But I
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: think it's great that she's in the rehab because it
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: was very difficult to watch those things. There were rumors, rumors.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: about Kris Jenner and her new face breaking up with
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: her long-term boyfriend, Corey. And people said, oh, we saw
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: them argue at part of the Lauren Sanchez wedding. And
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: according to TMZ, it's an exclusive. Kris Jenner and Corey Gamble,
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: stronger than ever, find split rumors laughable. So they are
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: doing just fine. They've been together for a long time.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: They do seem to have something good going on. And
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: it's never looked better. And that's it. They just, you know,
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: it's working for them. But they've been together like at
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: least 10 years. So there you go. Do you remember
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: the publisher's clearinghouse? If you're around my age, you'd remember
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: there was always these commercials about like publishers clearinghouse and
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: they would just come with like a big check and
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: you're like, what is that? Well, several publisher clearinghouse winners
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: claim they are no longer receiving their promised lifetime payouts
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: and it's having a devastating effect on their lives because
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: the company declared bankruptcy in April. And now there's an
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: investigation going on that found at least 10 past winners
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: who had been receiving annual payments never received their yearly
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: check in the last few years of like 250,000. That
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: is why, you guys, when you win the lotto, you
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: just get the lump sum. Always get the lump sum.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: If you shop at Nordstrom, like I do, and I
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: buy something and they go, you have a couple notes available.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: you know, $ 40 worth of these Nordstrom's notes. Would you
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: like to use them now or save them for later? No,
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: you use them then. I may never go back to Nordstrom.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: Nordstrom's may close their door. You use them then. You
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: get all your money now because of shit like this.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: People and things go bankrupt. There is no guarantee. So
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: that's your lesson of the day. This woman is in
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: a lot of trouble. She is a dog mom. And
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: she is facing felony charges. Now, just relax. I know
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: you're like, oh, my God, Heather, do not tell me
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: that this woman abused her dog and that's the felony.
• 45:59
  Speaker 5: No.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: She elevated her dog because she registered her dog, Maya,
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: as a human and was able to cast two votes
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: when voting in elections. We don't know who she voted for, Maya.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: I hope that Maya is safe in that if she
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: didn't vote for the person that you believe in, that
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: you won't come after her and cyber bully her and
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: call her, you know, something that rhymes with her name.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: I just hope that she, this dog can just like
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: go to the dog park and stick with her mom.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: And I don't think it's okay. I think that she
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: should be prosecuted, but the dog, was innocent. We don't
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: know how the dog feels about things. So if this
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: gets found out, which it will in the trial, of
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: who Maya voted for, just remind yourself that she is
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: just a dog and you don't need to go up
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: to her at the dog park and yell at her
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: and tell her how she's ruining America. Okay, speaking of
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: making America, you guys, I will be in America. I
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: will be in Las Vegas, November 14th at the MGM Grand,
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: a beautiful room, the David Copperfield Theater, and it will
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: be a fabulous show. It's 10 o'clock on November 14th. Yes,
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: that's BravoCon weekend. Luckily, many of you have already bought
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: your tickets. So, There is a low ticket alert on
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: this now. Get your tickets, 10 o'clock Friday. This is
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: gonna be, we have nothing to lose. We are saving juice,
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: hilarious bits. funny this is stand-up conversation the whole thing
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: it's it's musical there's some musicals in it i've got
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: brandy and julie along with surprises along the way this
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: will be the third year i've done it being the
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: third bravo con no fourth bravo con i did in
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: the last in new york and vegas before the show
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: is always great and um so you got to get
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: your tickets to go to heather mcdowell.net um okay Speaking
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: of Housewives, now let's get into the Bravo stuff. First,
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: I just wanted, and then I'm going into OC, but
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: first I just want to say I've been watching Real
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: Housewives of Miami and it's pretty entertaining. Now, I've heard,
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: you know, different things. I had Stephanie on. I liked
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: talking to her. There is talk about, you know, what
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: her financial status might be, if she'll come back, all
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: of that. She's, doing her thing. But on the last episode, they,
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: it's Marisol who invites everybody on the Virgin Cruise Line, um,
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: because she's great friends with the owner and she gets
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: to stay in the Rockstar suite, which by the way,
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: I stayed in that suite. I just would say when
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: we did a Juicy Scoop cruise many years ago, where
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: we just hung out with Juicy Scoopers, And it was
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: this like couple day cruise. I think it was like
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: three or four days. Maybe it was three days. Where
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: you just go and then you go to his island,
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: Richard Branson's island for the day. It's like a beach day.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: But the rest of the time you're just like sailing.
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: So it was fun to see the room and it
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: was pretty spectacular. We had like our own deck and
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: our own jacuzzi. So it was kind of fun to
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: watch these girls like brag about it. And it's really juicy. Um,
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: as far as the show goes, I really, I'm, I like,
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: I love the backdrop of Miami. I think it's fun
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: to watch. I really like their fashions. Um, I feel
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: like their, their fights and stuff are real and the
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: relationships are real and, um, It's very, it's very likable.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: So one thing that's going on with Julia that I
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: think is juicy. Julia is a former model who has
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: two adult daughters and she's married to Martina, the famous
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: tennis player who is 68 and much older. The last
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: couple seasons, she said she wanted to be a mom
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: again because her kids were getting older. she successfully adopted
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: with martina two brothers that are like one and a
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: half and three and she has revealed that her older
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: daughters are not cool with it and haven't come around
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: and i don't know where they stand now because this
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: was always filmed a while ago she did say one
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: she had a conversation with one and they said i
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: love you or she said i love you however um
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: you know, that's kind of an interesting speculation too about her. Like,
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: why are the daughters mad about it? Do they think
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: that maybe, you know, she was busy when they were
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: growing up, but supposedly they went to boarding school and
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: maybe they have some resentment and now she's like going
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: to be this stay-at-home mom later in life? Is it
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: about inheritance of some sort? Because Martina is not their mom,
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: but now Martina is the mom of these boys. So
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: maybe they are going to get more money because I
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: assume the majority of Julia's money comes from Martina's wealth
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: as a famous tennis player. I don't know that that's
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: all juicy. Then we had Lisa on my show with
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: her boyfriend, Jody, about her app about divorce. She gets
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: officially divorced in this, which nobody was nice to her about.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: Like she was at a dinner and she had to
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: notarize something in the middle of this divorce with this
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: awful man who talked shit about her and about his
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: mistress on audio while we were like, that's how we,
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: that's how she found out. She actually watched it. You know,
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: the episode happened. It was happening in real life. And
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: then she had to watch it back of him saying
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: while he was mic'd up that, you know, he feels
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: bad that he is cheating on his mistress with his
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: wife even hanging out there. I mean, if you haven't
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: listened to that episode with Lisa and you are watching Housewives,
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: I say you go back a couple months and listen
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: to Lisa on Juicy Scoop. She finally gets divorced from him.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: And Larsa is just not nice to her at all.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: And instead, they want to give Alexia a great party
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: because she's with her guy, Todd, and he broke up
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: with her and is getting divorced from her. But she
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: still loves him. Todd then goes on and does like
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: a 10-minute video on social media a couple weeks ago
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: and says how You know, he doesn't like being a
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: house husband on this show that the cast members disparage
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: him and say he has no money when in fact
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: he bought a $ 26 million building and he didn't want
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: to do the show. And he basically had to side
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: between his wife, um, And being on the show or
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: not being on the show and losing his wife because
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: that's what his wife cares about, which is a rude
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: thing to say about Alexia. He threatens a lot suing Bravo.
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's happened or if this is
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: simmered down. But all these things make for a pretty
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: juicy TV show. There was, people are talking about if
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: Howard Stern is going to be coming back or not.
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: And there was like a prank today that was done
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: where Andy Cohen was in the Howard Stern studio saying, well,
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: now you know, you're going to love Howard, you're going
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: to love Andy Cohen radio instead of Howard Stern. And
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: I was like, what? I started reading the comments and
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: Beth Stern is like, does it a laughing face? So
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: I keep reading. He, it was just some prank. So
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I guess he's still on Sirius. Good
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: for you, Howard Stern. But, you know, when we talk
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: about the shit that went on on TV 15 years ago, 10,
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: 15 years ago, Howard Stern had a show on TV
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: with Robin Quivers, his right-hand girl, and some of the
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: other players that were his regulars called Butta Face. And
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: girls would come out with a bag over their head
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: in a hot bikini. And they have a great body.
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: And the expression, the first time I heard it, I
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: was in colleges. She's a butt of face, meaning she's
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: got a great body, but her face is not great.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: So this clip starts to go viral of this one girl,
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: body comes out looking great. They pull off and I
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: think she's beautiful. Like I'm like, this girl has a
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: great face. Like what? And they're all being like, looks
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: like it ran over, it was run over by a
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: train track or something. Like these people, none of them attractive,
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: ripping on her as she has to stand there and
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: be like, I'm like, first of all, how did you
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: agree to come on this show? What producer got in
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: your head that this was a good idea? Your vulnerable self.
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: How much were you paid to do this? And then
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: to have these unattractive people who have faces for radio. Okay.
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: Who then got to be on TV are ripping on
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: your looks. And this video that I found, um, then
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: shows the woman today and she's even more beautiful. And, um,
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: and so, and put it all together and it was,
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: we deserve better than we deserve better now. I mean,
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: but Howard Stern is still here and things happen that
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: are insane that are on our TVs if we just
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: go back 15 years. So now let me get back
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: into the Real House of OC. I put it at
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: the end of the show just in case you're over it,
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: you don't care, but some juicy shit happened over the weekend.
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: I'm going to try to explain this as simply as
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: I can, but not to make anybody that's up on
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: it bored. Real House of OC started 19 years ago.
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: And Tamara Judge, the most famous one, you know, that
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: we talk about the most, she joined season three. Gretchen
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: Rossi joined season four. In season four, her first season,
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: she is invited over to Tamara's house to have an
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: etiquette dinner where they're going to have a chef come
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: and Tamara's going to got a lesson about how to
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: use her forks and knives. And, and Tamara is very
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: curious about Gretchen's situation because she's a very attractive young
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: girl and she's engaged to a rich older man who
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: unfortunately has like a very progressed cancer. So he's in
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: the hospital all the time. She invites her over for
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: dinner and we're watching this with the other housewives and
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: their husbands. By the way, nobody is with their person
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: anymore except for Gretchen and Slade. The next season she
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: gets with Slade after her fiance dies. But Everybody is divorced.
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: Vicky had a husband she's divorced from, Dawn. Lynn is
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: divorced from her husband now, Lynn Curtin. Tamara and Simon, wait,
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: who else was there? Gina gets divorced too. I mean,
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: everybody is with their, Alexis Bellino and her husband. None
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: of them are with their spouse, but we're watching it. Anyway.
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: She comes as a single girl to the dinner and
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: we see Ryan. She goes, Ryan is my 22 year
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: old son and he took bartending class. He's going to help.
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: And she says, we're going to get Gretchen naked wasted.
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: We want her to do something stupid so that basically
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: we can prove that she's really not interested in this
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: older rich man. And she, you know, isn't this person
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: that she pretends to be. Well, she does get really drunk,
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: probably because she has been at the hospital all the
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: time and is ready to have some fun and is
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: her first season on TV and isn't really thinking about it.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: I should probably slow it on the drinks. And As
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: a scene, which you can watch on Peacock, it's really
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: shocking that this was even on. And I have questioned, like,
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: why didn't Bravo remove it when they put everything on Peacock?
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: But then I guess if you're going to do that
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: for one thing, then you'd have to do it for everything.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: And these people have signed their life away. They're never
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: going to protect the reality stars. They get paid very little.
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: They do it because... They want to be famous and
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: hope that it leads to other opportunities and money. And,
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: you know, that's what happens. So he's hitting on her.
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: And one of the things he does that is crazy
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: is he does the shocker sign, which appears like he's
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: doing it to his mom. Like they have a plan
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: going between Ryan and Tamara. And people that don't know
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: what the shocker sign is, Um, it's two in the pink,
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: one in the stink. So it's two figures and it's
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: like this. So this weekend I had a little girl's weekend. Um,
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: and my sorority, one of my, she wasn't my sorority,
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: but she was my college friend and my sister, Shannon
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: spent the night and they were not aware of the
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: shocker sign. Um, I discovered the chakra side around that
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: time when I was, you know, at Chelsea lately is
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: when I heard of the two in the pink, one
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: in the stink situation. And it's very, very obvious. And
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: you'll see the photo that he's doing that, which is,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: kind of hilarious since he's being filmed and he's, you know,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: but he's only been on the show. His mom's only
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: been on the show for one season. This is her
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: now second season. And the reality show was such a
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: different world then. I mean, they were on a show
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: that was getting, you know, really good views, but the
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: only kind of press or, they would do is maybe they,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: maybe they'd get on like a daytime talk show here
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: or there. And then they didn't even really have reunions.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: So there was not all of this podcast, you know, Instagram, TikTok,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: people talking about it, reporting on it, writing good comments,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: writing mean comments. None of that was it. So they
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: really were in like their little gated bubble of like
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: filming this show. And I don't really think they, We're
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: walking around like people recognizing them even that much because
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: it was still like such a little niche thing. So
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: they're doing this thing and they're all drinking and being themselves.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: And Ryan is extremely aggressive to to Gretchen and really
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: like touching her back. And she's loopy and aggressive. It's
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: triggering to watch. To watch it back is shocking. And
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: really the thing is, is she goes to the bathroom
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: and he follows her into the bathroom and the mics
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: are on and they just show like the outdoor of
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: the bathroom and him trying to kiss her saying, can
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: I have a kiss? Can I have a kiss? And
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: she keeps saying no. And she's trying to placate him.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: You're attractive. I'm attracted to you. No, no, no. So
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: that happened. I started watching the rest of the day,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: the following episodes. And the following season. Following season, there's
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: some shit that went down between the two of them,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: which I don't know, between Gretchen and Tamara. But it
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: really didn't have to do with naked waist. It had
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: to do with, I don't know, a website or a
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: blog or same kind of shitty things about each other.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: Tamara was saying, again, Gretchen, you had a boyfriend. She's like,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: that wasn't my boyfriend. There's a whole other lawsuit story
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: that involves this guy that is... a big deal and confusing.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: Then she's on the show for a couple of years
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: and then she's not. And now she's back and she
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: meets Katie, the new girl. And before she's asked back
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: on the show, has dinner and somehow the conversation comes up.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: And then Katie, she, Katie says, she said, I was
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: so sick that night. I think I was drugged and
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: I went to the hospital next day. Gretchen was on
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: the show. She denied ever saying that. She did not
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: go to the hospital the next day. She's never told
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: that story to anybody that way. You know, did she
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: get really wasted? Yeah. Was it weird?
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: Never, ever, ever. What's weird is now this story continues
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: on and Katie then goes and supposedly tells this podcaster
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: and you know, content creator, Kiki Monique, that Gretchen said
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: that she was drugged and had to go to the hospital.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: Kiki then asked a couple other reporters, podcasters, whatever, had
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: you ever heard this? Is this true? It gets back
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: to Tamara. Tamara's like, how dare you fucking say that
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: or insinuate that? She brings it up on camera. And
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: then Katie's like, I never said that. And Gretchen's like,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: I believe her. Then they meet with Kiki and Kiki goes, yes,
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: she did say it. She said it to me. My
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: friend and I met her for lunch. She said it
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: to me. I'm like, bring the other friend out because
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: then Katie now is going and doing interviews and saying, no,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: I never even talked about Gretchen to Kiki. So then
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: I'm like, well, then how did Kiki hear the story?
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: So she goes on one podcast and says that. And
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: right after goes on another, which is Teddy's and Tamara's podcast.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: And in between, like within the day before, someone did
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: a Instagram, this Instagram account called Face Reality 16, did
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: a whole highlight reel of their theory that because Gretchen
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: and Sheena Schaefer- Vanderpump in the Valley have been friends
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: for so long. And Kiki is occasionally on Sheena's podcast
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: that it was Gretchen who told Sheena, who told Kiki,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: and then Kiki told all these people to somehow get
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: Gretchen back on the show. It really makes no sense
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: at all. So Katie, so then that Teddy brings that up.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: Katie's like that. I heard that rumor too. Sheena Shea
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: is like, oh, fuck you, two Ts. I did not
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: do that. And this is a story that no one
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: has ever heard Gretchen ever say in any whispers or
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: any personal relationships, whatever. But the fans that write in
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: have really become Team Katie in this. They believe that
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: the girls have ganged up on her. There is a
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: lie detector test, which of course should not be taken seriously.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: It's on a reality show. The producers obviously set it up.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: They're going after Emily because it's at Emily's house. And
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: she goes, we're going to have a lie detector test.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: Do you think Emily put this all together and actually
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: paid for the lie detector? People know she probably doesn't
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: want to say it wasn't me because she don't want
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: to piss off the producers. But clearly the producers put
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: this together to like, OK, you guys think Katie's a liar.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: Let's all do a lie detector test. People are examining
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: what we're seeing on an edited show. And they are like,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: these girls ganged up on her. How do we know?
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: And Katie's very comfortable saying, no, now I never even
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: talked to Kiki about it. Kiki's just a thirsty blogger
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: that did this. She also says, Katie also says, my
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: daughter had more followers and was a bigger influencer and
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: makes more money on brand deals than I before I
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: even joined Real Housewives of OC. Well, if she was
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: that successful, then why was she babysitting Emily's kids? Why
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: was she trying to get a job at a restaurant?
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: Why was she like, I'm just saying, if you're that
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: big of an influencer, why would you have to do that? Weird.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: There was just like a few weird things. The weirdest
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: thing that she said, Katie says, my sister-in-laws, Matt's sister,
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: her husband, one is a professor. No, actually two are professors.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: And they just They never watched Housewives before. They never
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: watched Real Housewives of OC before. Well, they watch it
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: now that I'm on it, but they never watched it.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: And they just happen to be walking in a park
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: in Northern California and they run into Slade's mom. Okay,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: hold on. I've watched the shows ad nauseum and I
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: wouldn't be able to recognize Slade's 84-year-old mother anywhere, okay?
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: Unless she was literally standing next to him and I
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: would then- assume maybe that's your mom. So you're telling
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: me these two girls that never watched the show happened
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: to run into Slade's mom at a park. And I'm like,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: is this some Jussie Smollett shit? What the fuck is this?
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: So then she said, and they talked to Slade's mom
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: and Slade's mom said, my son's a narcissist and he's
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: on his fourth housewife. Wait, what? I'm like, And so, yeah,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: Slade and Gretchen were on my show. I'm like, Slade,
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: is this true? And are you like estranged from your
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: mom or something? Would she talk? Like, first, I think
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: it's weird that they recognize her. Second, I think it's
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: weird that a mom would say that about her son
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: and that she'd use the word narcissist about your own son.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, how are you guys super estranged? Like having
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: talked in 10 years? No, they're not estranged. They're fine.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: he asked her about it and she's like, what is
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: a narcissist? She's 84 years old. This is a word
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: that's really popped up in the zeitgeist a lot in
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: the last eight years. You know, I mean, I remember
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: the first time I really heard it and it was
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: when Dr. Drew's book came out about narcissism and we
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: were at Chelsea lately. So I could see why maybe
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: she's not familiar with it. And then she said, fourth housewife. No,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: I never said that. Like you, you were with Joe
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: and now you're with Gretchen, you know, like who's the
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: other two? He's like, forget it. So she then said
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: it was a very strange situation. These two women came
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: up to me out of nowhere. She always goes and
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: does a, she has a routine there where she plays
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: bocce and they came up to her and And this
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: all happened August 26th. They happened to find Slade's mom
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: at this park, had this supposed conversation, and she said
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: these negative things about her own son. And then it
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: was told by Katie on a podcast. I'm just saying,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: there's some weird shit going on. And basically that is
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: what everyone's talking about. Who is the liar? And, you know,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: Gretchen said, I misspoke on camera when I said I
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: did go to the hospital. I was so sick. I
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: meant to say I should have. No, I didn't obviously
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: do that. I spent the night at your house, Tamara.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know why. So this all came up and
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: now everybody's just talking about the semantics of whether someone
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: lied about something that happened to them pretty horribly and
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: which is on camera for the world to see. Do
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: you imagine having your most drunken, like weird predatory moment
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: on camera for the rest of your life? And then
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: you're getting accused of lying because you may or may
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: not have said over dinner 17 years later, oh my God,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: it took me days to recover. I should have gone
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: to the hospital or I did go to the hospital
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: or whatever. That is what this has all come down to.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: And now because Katie is Asian, she was born in
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: Korea and adopted by a white family in Georgia, that
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: people feel that they have attacked this girl who is
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: a woman of color and they're being accused of that
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: and they're accused of being ganged up. And the comments
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: from the Bravo fans are, the DMs that all the
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: women are getting, including Kiki Monique, including Sheena, like, it
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: is honestly really awful. It is really awful for everybody involved.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: And as someone that's, like, loved the show and really
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: watching the old episodes, like, they're all great on the show.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: They all are entertaining, you know? Like, And we are
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: talking about this season a lot. So whether you say
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: you like it or you don't like it, we're watching it. However,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: it's really a bummer and I wouldn't know really how
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: to fix it. All I could say is if I
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: had a friend who was approached and wanted to do it,
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: you know, wanted some fun in her life. Maybe she,
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: you know, has a fun personality, has a beautiful home
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: to show off, is a little bored, would like to
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: have a second chapter of things. And she was like, Heather,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: should I do the Real Housewives of whatever? This is
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: the advice I would give her. you have to, without
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: a doubt, hire a social media person because you have
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: to have an Instagram. You have to build that social
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: media platform. Otherwise, the $ 70, 000 you're going to get is
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: not going to be worth your one Birkin bag. So
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: why would you do it unless you're going to build
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: so that you can actually have a platform later that's
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: kind of fun and that you can make some money
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: off of or launch a clothing line or whatever. But
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: If you read all this horrible shit by these awful
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: people that choose to write it, whether half are bots
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: and the other half are real, I think both are true.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: I do think housewives and stuff, you know, hire these
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: companies like anyone can to go after each other. And,
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: you know, but then I also think there's crazed fans
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: that just do it on their own and feel like,
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: oh my God, this person is my friend and I'm
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: team this person and I want this person off the show.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: And They go in with a glass of wine and
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: they just go off on it. And it's like their
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: little sick thing. Somebody might watch porn. Somebody might eat
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: ice cream and have a dark secret. This is like
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: their weird little dark secret. But a lot of them
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: aren't even anonymous. That's the thing. They're writing these horrible
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: things about people's children and they're not even anonymous. And
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: I would say you have to do that because there
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: is no, I don't care how tough skin you are.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: I don't care if you're the toughest skin, which I
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: would give Lisa Vanderpump that and, you know, Kris Jenner.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: It affects you. It affects you. And here you do
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: your job and you film the show and then you
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: can't really even... you know, proceed with your life by
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: posting things on social media because the comments are so
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: awful because people are thinking something is true about your
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: character because of an edited reality show that you agreed
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: to do. And, you know, but then you can't say
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: someone's running your Instagram because then you're inauthentic and the
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: whole way of getting brands is being authentic. So that
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: would be my advice. And if I If you are like,
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: just that's what you need to do. That's what you
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: need to do. And you just need to like have
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: a phone that is Instagram that maybe you just follow
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: like a couple like, you know, news articles or something
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: that doesn't involve you or you literally... just have your
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: phone for like calling friends and the internet. And then
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: your social media person's like, here's five articles that are
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: safe to read about you and send me your photos
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: and I'll post them and I'll edit them so that
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: your teeth don't look totally different, but a little bit straighter.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: And like, it's not a ridiculous thing. And we'll just
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: try to like go back to the old days where
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: like Elizabeth Taylor just used to like sign a few
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: headshots and see beautiful things about how great she was
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: in the movie and not all the awful shit because
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: I just think it's just out of hand. And that,
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