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MotoGP San Marino 2025 Recap in S5 Ep 29 · B 4EVA Kool "Race A Motorcycle" Podcast

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  Welcome back to the Be Forever Cool podcast.
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  My name is Rex 45. We got Reese Mataki.
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  I'm on the building. The real Luis Ortega, the
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  numbers guy, TJ with two wheels and coffee.
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  What's going on fellas? How you doing TJ?
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  Your audio. Bro hanging in there just enjoy
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  the last weekend audios and stuff you hear.
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  Me, we got you now. You're kind of laggy though.
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  Oh well, no, we had a good weekend abrasion so was a
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  fortune to watch that. Can't complain otherwise.
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  I was just flipping back and forth between Moto America and
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  Moto ZP. So that's pretty much sums up my
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  weekend. All right, man.
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  Well, you know, you know, Austin and and Mazana is not the same
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  time zone, man. You know, we're gonna have to,
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  we're gonna have to get you another clock to make sure you
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  can, you know, watch it separate times.
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  I mean, I guess I don't know how I don't know what time Lewis
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  gets up, but I I'm usually up like, you know, I'm watching it
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  live generally. You know, that's just me, man.
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  What's going on, Reese, man, how you doing, man?
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  And we'll, we'll find out how your weekend went from your
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  perspective, from you know, where I'm sitting.
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  Look like you, you kind of call it where it was.
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  I I don't know if you guys could have expected a better outcome,
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  but how you doing man? I'm good man, just burnt out
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  from the weekend. This long weekend.
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  Hot as hell, but it's still good.
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  Ready for the last round. Like for a battle like I called
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  it. So stop, man, We're looking
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  forward to it. Some good racing down in in
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  Austin this past weekend. What's going on, Lewis?
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  Man how things I see you got big time on your on your chest.
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  Yeah, yeah, shout out to my boy Felipe and Jeremiah from Big
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  Time on YouTube. These guys have been super great
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  to me for the last couple years. I've been working with them and
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  we're always swapping swag, so I send them some gear, they send
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  me some gear, but they got an amazing channel.
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  They're the ones that have been doing like this Moto GP series,
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  Road to Moto GP. So really good stuff, cool guys
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  and on the raising front. Great weekend man, can't wait to
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  talk about it. Lots of crazy excitement in the
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  US and overseas, so definitely going to be a good show all.
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  Right, man, that's what's up. We're going to jump into it.
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  We're going to, we're going to start with Moto America because
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  I know Reese might have to tap out at some point because, you
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  know, he, he doesn't stop working, you know?
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  Hey man, somebody's got to make the money.
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  Yeah. Hey, listen, man, I'll text you
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  my address when I'm done. Few things might need to get
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  taken care of. Let's talk about it, TJ.
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  Boat America. You know you heard Reese from
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  the past three rounds talking about what to expect.
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  What are your thoughts on what you saw this weekend?
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  I mean, it was good to see, you know, the young kids go out
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  there, the, the, you know, like the Town Cup.
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  And it was good to see the stock 1000.
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  I think it's their last race of the year, you know, And it was
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  good to see like every manufacturer be good at one part
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  of the track, you know, for instance, just watching like a
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  Honda go down the back street next to a Ducati, just seeing
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  what it can do and, and how it can keep up on the other parts
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  of the track. So and then, you know, the main
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  race is where you know what we're looking forward to.
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  And it was interesting to see, you know, how Josh Henry could
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  pull out that first race for all the the Higgins that was going
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  on that that first race was that that happened.
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  But overall, race one and race 2 are pretty good.
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  It's good to see. Well, you know, the Yamahas stay
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  up in there, Bobby Fond to get on the podium and stay in
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  contention, you know, didn't lose everything so.
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  There you go. It's called, you know, they're
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  called painkillers for a reason, man.
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  It gets me through a lot. Trust me, when I when I was lost
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  in my spleen, man, you know, it was nice to have some some
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  painkillers to be be able to rest.
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  So, you know, I think he had it figured out.
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  Josh, your thoughts, Lewis, we see that they announced that
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  we're going to have another Ducati in in super bike in Motor
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  America next year with PJ. You know, are you excited for
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  that? I mean, I'm, I'm always excited
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  when the grid fills up with more bikes.
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  You know, I've always said that I like the Stock 1000 class
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  because it keeps the prices of going racing a little bit more
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  manageable. I mean, it's still expensive.
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  Anybody thinks that to be competitive on a Stock 1000, you
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  can do it for like less than 250 grand, you're out of your mind.
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  You know, like if you want to do every single round, like you're
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  going to spend some money. But at least the Stock 1000
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  class gave a lot more riders the opportunity.
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  And I just hope that the way that the rules work out next
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  year to combine the stock 1000 is super bike.
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  There's enough concessions where the stock 1000 won't just be
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  there to fill the grid, but can be competitive.
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  I mean, I expect the same players to be at the front just
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  because the equipment and the talent level.
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  But I, I want to see an opportunity where a guy that,
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  you know, an unexpected talent can kind of rise up and, and be
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  that, you know, hair in the ointment or something like that,
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  you know, so I'm hoping it happens next year.
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  I'm hoping that it's really competitive.
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  I want to see Ducati's there. I want to see Honda's there.
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  I want to see, you know, Suzuki's there.
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  I mean, we're Suzuki's now, but I want to see the grid to fill
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  up more. You know, the saddest thing that
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  I saw this weekend was the bagger race.
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  I saw six guys lining up to race.
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  That means you have a 50% chance of being on the podium if you
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  just don't crash and somebody else does.
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  Like, as much as that's a fun race, that shit sucks, man.
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  I don't want to see six bikes lining up, man.
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  Like if you don't have at least 12 bikes on the grid, like why
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  even line up? Like it's crazy.
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  Everybody finishes in the points and like, I understand why it is
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  happening, but that grid needs to get bigger.
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  You know, we're going to go international with Bagger Racing
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  with Harley-Davidson. That grid needs to get bigger
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  here in the US. We can't show up in Spain or in
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  Portugal with six bikes. Man, that looks pathetic.
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  You said you know what happened, so can you enlighten us?
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  Because I, I, I was wondering the same thing.
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  From my perspective, I just assumed the championship was
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  over and some people said they want to spend any more more
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  money for the for the last two rounds.
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  I don't, I don't, I don't think I'm going to be at Jersey or
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  not, but. No, that's 100% what happened.
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  You know, people are like, well, you know what, this
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  championship's over. I'm not going to spend the money
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  to haul all my equipment to Texas, you know, call my call my
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  guys at Texas when there's no chance of me winning or
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  something like that. Like this grid, and I think, I
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  hate to say it, I don't think the grid's going to be any
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  bigger for New Jersey. Again, if I'm based out of
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  California, why am I going to drive across the country to
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  finish outside the points, not have a championship, not really
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  make any money? Like, you know, that grid's got
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  to get filled up and and we got to see some new faces on that
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  grid too. You know, it can't be the same
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  the usual suspects every single weekend.
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  Like it's not fair and as as a certain point is going to lose
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  its novelty and if there's no competition there then it's
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  going to lose its interest. You know?
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  I don't I don't want to see the same if I had to watch the same
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  2 football teams play each other every weekend for the entire NFL
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  season. Dude I'm checking out after like
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  the second game. Right, right, right.
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  No, I definitely there's some other sports we could talk about
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  this like that. But let's get to Reese, man.
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  Let's let's talk about the, the weekend from your perspective,
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  Yamaha perspective. I mean, you know, you guys got
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  to feel pretty good. I I assume the T-shirts are
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  already made and ready like like the Ducati Moto GP to bring it
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  over to Motegi? Nah, it sure aren't printed just
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  yet. I mean, it could go anyway, but
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  I mean, we go on air with the, you know, positive attitude.
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  I mean, Bobby, I think he was like, I know one race he was
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  second last year in Jersey and I think he was, I know he podium,
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  I think he podium both times. But we're going there with a
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  positive attitude. Like I said before we came in
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  there knowing that this is one of their their tracks like
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  Ducati and BMW where they can exploit all their power.
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  So I mean, to come out with a second and third place, I mean
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  that's really great. And, you know, to take a second
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  and third and almost have a win in Race 2, you know, almost had
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  it. So we'll, we'll take that.
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  I mean, it was a good weekend. You know, no, everybody, both
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  riders came home, you know, no major crashes, no major nothing.
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  So we, I mean, we'll take that positive win, head on to the
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  next round and get ready for a a weird battle.
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  Right. Were you, were you guys
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  surprised at how close it was that those guys didn't really
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  run away? Yes and no.
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  I mean, we was hoping that we'd be close, stay in their draft.
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  And I mean, we thought they we knew that on the back straight
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  away, especially that long back straight away, we knew that they
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  had the power of the pull away. And if you watch, I mean, that's
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  where Cameron kind of sucked up on Bobby and and got the pass.
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  So we knew that was happening. But you know, we stayed right
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  there with him. Bobby was, if you watch, Bobby
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  was one of the fastest guys coming through the s s where he
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  would almost run up in the back of them.
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  So he was he. He passed them.
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  Yeah, did, did, did on, on the did you guys give Jake a hard
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  time? Yeah, when he had that low side
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  and crashed out and Cam, you know, had a low side and saved
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  it. Now you give him a hard time.
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  I was just happy we wasn't there.
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  I mean it was nice not to be there late night.
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  So it wasn't that bad of a bad crash.
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  It was kind of easy night like all right, we get out of here
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  early. So that was kind of peaceful low
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  side he I mean he saved it real good.
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  So it was fun, No? No, no, it it it was fun to
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  watch TJ, man, you know, you let's let's dive into a little
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  bit more watching the races and stuff like that.
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  I know Josh is your boy and you know, he seemed to struggle a
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  little bit more on on Sunday. You know, how do you feel about
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  that and how he how it turned out?
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  Sorry, I'm having a little connection issues, so we say.
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  So you say it one more time about Sunday.
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  Saturday, Sunday, you know, talk about Josh a little bit and I
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  know he's your boy. I'm, I mean, I'm a Ducati guy.
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  So I I like how it turned out, but you know.
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  I mean, yeah, I mean, someday, you know, we wanted to see, you
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  know, Josh Paul it off. He could, but, you know,
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  obviously it'll be a little different.
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  And I don't know their approaches a lot to finish in
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  life, but they couldn't pull it out.
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  He did get a podium, but it was good to see Bobby Fogg actually
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  fight with Kim Beaubien for that last race.
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  That was pretty cool. Bobby Fogg definitely gave his
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  all, definitely wanted to see him win, but that BMW just had
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  too much down the back street. Just like reset few weeks back,
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  how strong they would be down there.
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  But yeah, it's going to be a big fight going into Jersey.
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  But I think Sunday was was a good race.
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  Yeah, yeah, no doubt. I see you got the Suzuki hat.
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  I figured you'd have a Yamaha hat tonight because Suzuki, they
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  weren't trying, man. But they were.
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  They were trying. But, you know, I feel bad for
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  Richie Escalante. Was that Escalante that that
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  that, you know, he crashed on the last lap?
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  Well you know SDK been doing good so but I'm not sure if he
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  crashed on the last lap, did he? Or what?
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  Race one or Race 2? Race 2 I thought it was a race 2
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  He he crashed on the I was a race one.
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  I I my memory says correctly. Felt like well.
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  Race he had. He had mechanical, He had
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  mechanical. Well, yeah, something like that
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  from what I hear. I think he ran out of fuel.
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  That's mechanical. It's not KTM mechanical, but his
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  mechanical. You know, and that's what is
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  that a 2008 bike? I mean that's pretty good for an
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  old bike to be competing with these new bikes.
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  I would I. Said it's a 13.
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  No, it's a 1616. There you go, it's only it's
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  only 9. Years old?
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  It's only 10 years. Old, but I got to say the 50th
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  anniversary color look pretty good though.
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  What are you? What are your thoughts on that?
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  Lewis The. Bike came out when it was the
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  40th anniversary color. They had that page on that bike
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  twice in one lap time. Yeah, I love Suzuki, man.
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  I I. I saw your story man, so.
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  It's rough, man. It's rough out there for Suzuki.
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  It looked good. It looked good.
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  Man, I just wish that, you know, I, I wait to see what, what
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  Suzuki's doing next year. You know, they've kind of put a
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  little bit of a press push behind the new GSXR 1000.
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  No, they don't. It's all wingless.
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  You know you got to start somewhere man.
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  Hamda did nothing but winless and look where they are now on
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  Moto GPI. Mean, I ain't got no more Red
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  Bull, but they got wings. Crashing out of 18th.
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  Ain't got Red Bull got. They got their wings.
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  No, but I hope, I hope Suzuki does a little bit better next
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  year. You know, they got talented
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  riders, man. SDK is a talented rider.
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  Escalante is a talented rider, you know, their entire team, the
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  Super sport team, talented riders.
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  It's just, you know, they just that 1 1/2 step behind the guys
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  at the front technology wise, motor wise, just everything, you
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  know, I mean, you can do a lot with a stock motor and make it a
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  super bike motor and do all the things you can do.
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  But at the end of the day, I mean, if you don't have that
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  little extra help from the factory, if you don't have newer
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  chassis or a newer motor you can build off of you, you're always
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  limited to the tools that you have to work with.
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  So yeah, I feel bad for Suzuki, man.
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  Hurts my heart a little bit. Just just me, not me.
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  I'll be back. I'll be back.
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  I'll be back all. Right.
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  All right, well, let's jump into Moto GP and, and, and talk about
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  that because that was also happening this weekend and
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  pretty crazy all around. I mean, you know, let's talk
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  about the qualifying sessions, you know, you know, I'll say
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  back now it was looking good in qualifying, you know, being in
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  the top, top top seven. You know what I'm saying?
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  I didn't say I, I can't say I expected more, but it was a home
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  track for him. So you thought it would have
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  been a little bit better. But what you guys?
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  Yeah, until he. Yeah, until he crashed out.
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  What do you guys think about that and what Bazecki did?
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  Because it seems like Bazecki's the only guy that's that's going
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  to, I want to say push Mark, but at least make mark, you know,
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  look back a little bit or look up.
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  What are your thoughts, TJ? You're.
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  Back. You're back, not back.
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  All right, we'll, we'll move. All right, we'll, we'll, we'll,
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  we'll move to Reese until you get it sorted out.
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  I I don't know if you had a chance to watch Moto GP while
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  you were at at CODA this past weekend man, but your thoughts
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  about qualifying and how those guys did?
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  No, I did watch it. I mean, getting up early and
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  watching it, but I mean, it was nice.
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  I mean, it was different. I mean, I think like, you're
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  right, I think Bazecki is the only one that's going to keep
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  Mark, as you want to call it, honest and keep him out there.
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  I think he's the actual one him and you know, maybe his brother.
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  But I mean, it was good. It was a good qualifying race.
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  Well, qualifying. It was a great Sprint race.
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  You know, I was kind of sad to see Mark crash out, but I
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  actually, no, no matter how much I hated the guy, I won't play
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  in. You know, I'm kind of rooting
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  for him after that surgery, what he had just take it all.
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  Yeah, I agree there. I, I won't say I'm rooting for
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  him, but I I respect what he's doing And, and you see it, you
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  can't and obviously you can't deny the caliber rider he is and
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  stuff like that. I'm not really actually, you
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  know, I'm not really mad at Mark.
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  I'm mad at that Ducati signed up, That's all.
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  Mark had nothing to do. I mean, obviously he got signed,
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  but like Ducati, they didn't need to sign them to win another
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  championship. Why?
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  Why didn't he need to sign them? You got to sign the best.
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  There's a long. There's a.
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  There's a long list of reasons why.
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  Who's who's out there that's going to beat that man?
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  Well, but it's today's, though. I mean, you think about it,
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  right? If you know you're going to win
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  the championship with the riders you already got, you know I
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  spend more money. Because you can make more money.
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  Right. I can make more money, yeah.
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  Well, that, that's that we'll, we'll find out at the end of the
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  year, see what sales are like, right.
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  I mean, sales is just one part of the equation.
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  You know, the, the win it on Sunday, buy it on Monday kind of
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  philosophy doesn't always work, right.
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  But you know, how many times can a team sign somebody like a
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  Michael Jordan to their team? You know, the Wizards sucked
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  when Michael Jordan went there, but they still have Michael
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  Jordan. They still sold more tickets.
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  They still sold more jerseys. They still sold more popcorn and
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  vending everywhere they went. Like they could ask for more
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  because they had a, a bigger package, a more talented package
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  to display. So, you know, sometimes you got
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  to look at it at that way, you know, I can sign Jorge Martin.
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  We didn't get hurt. I could sign Jorge Martin or I
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  can sign a seven time world champion that automatically
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  comes with a ton of fans and a ton of haters.
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  And the haters will pay to to hate on him.
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  You know, like I love the meme every time that Marquez goes and
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  races in Italy that Can you imagine paying $300 in as an
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  Italian to go Boo Marc Marquez? Like that's it.
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  Thousands of people are paying $300 to Boo Marc Marquez.
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  And at the end of the day, Mark is like, yo, I still get paid.
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  You guys are helping pay for for me to be here to make you feel
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  bad, you know, so, and, and if you look this past weekend, you
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  know, Ducati used Mark to launch the new Rs models.
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  You know, they had the Diwali and they had the multi strata.
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  They did a whole marketing campaign.
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  So again, you got this instant swag by by by having somebody
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  like that. You know, why do people sign
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  LeBron James even though he doesn't win championships and
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  flops because he's LeBron James. He's going to give him people
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  into your audience. He's going to bring people to
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  your stadium. At least with Marquez you got a
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  seven time world champion that's proven that he can go out there
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  and ride. Not missing Floppopolis that's
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  going. To I mean.
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  I hear that the. They build them a replica.
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  On the on the bench. Yeah, I heard that too.
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  But you know, he qualified 4th Bagnaya qualify a do you think
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  that put this all you guys? I hopefully you're, you're also
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  with audio TJ. Do you, do you think that what
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  Bizecki and Martine did to get Bizecki on pole?
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  Do you think Ryder teams should do that more often?
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  You punch a hole in front of the the faster rider so they can get
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  the the few tents to get on it because I don't know if Bizecki
• 19:56
  would have got that if Martine didn't punch that hole on the on
• 19:59
  the straight. I mean, I think yeah, help each
• 20:07
  other to try to get a better position.
• 20:10
  But dude, I don't know it was I think it just Martine just
• 20:14
  happened to be there. But it definitely helped Ozeki
• 20:18
  get that that pole position for sure.
• 20:23
  But I definitely do think that team should help each other
• 20:26
  instead of, you know, like Mark used to do chase behind a rider
• 20:31
  just to get his himself a better position.
• 20:35
  So, but that fight is also good. It keeps everything competitive.
• 20:39
  But it was pretty cool that to see Ben Zachy get up there and
• 20:43
  get the pole position. I mean.
• 20:46
  We thoughts, Reese, You think you guys might do that in
• 20:51
  Jersey? I don't know we'll do it in
• 20:54
  Jersey, but I mean, why not? Why not have a rider punch a
• 20:57
  hole through it? If you got you know, you can
• 20:59
  follow. And I mean, sometimes it's not
• 21:01
  even sometimes it's not even team orders it just the two guys
• 21:06
  will get out there and they'll get behind each other and
• 21:08
  they'll actually just do it. But hey, I'm going to punch a
• 21:11
  hole for you. Come on, let's go.
• 21:12
  So it's it could it could be that so, but I mean, why not?
• 21:16
  You know, you want to you still want to win the the constructor
• 21:19
  title or something like that, But I mean, it can't right now,
• 21:22
  Gotti, But why not try to put a slowdown to to Marquez's reign
• 21:27
  or or get ready for the upcoming year?
• 21:29
  Why not? And you're right, because Mark
• 21:33
  Bazecki helped Martine get into Q2, you know.
• 21:36
  So what are your thoughts, Lewis, on that?
• 21:39
  I mean, I don't again, I, I, I tend to agree with Reese.
• 21:42
  I don't think it was necessarily Team Waters.
• 21:44
  Maybe the two riders spoke about it ahead of time.
• 21:46
  Hey, we catch each other on the track.
• 21:49
  Let's try to help each other, you know, either told me or
• 21:52
  punch a hole in the air for me or something like that.
• 21:56
  It's qualifying. It's not the it's not the race.
• 21:58
  So, but if you look at the time of the race, I don't you know,
• 22:04
  I, I think Bazecki would have still been on the front row
• 22:07
  regardless of whether or not Martine helped him.
• 22:09
  I think Martine just gave him a couple more tents that got him
• 22:11
  right to the pole position. But but Bazecki was still the
• 22:15
  fastest guy outside of Marc Marquez the whole weekend.
• 22:19
  And even Alex, you know, he had his flash of brilliance.
• 22:21
  But again, that one lap speed, that doesn't mean you're going
• 22:25
  to be consistent over the the length of the race.
• 22:27
  You know who who gridded up in in 3rd place as the third
• 22:32
  fastest guy? The guy who dropped like a
• 22:35
  fucking anchor once the race started, Mr. Yamaha.
• 22:38
  Why? Because you can't rent run your
• 22:40
  fastest lap of the race for 27 laps.
• 22:43
  That's physically impossible. You can stay within a certain
• 22:47
  range, like of 1/2 a second, you know, thirty, 1-331-630-1231,
• 22:53
  You can do that. You can't run 30 flats for 27.
• 22:57
  Your tires won't make it. You won't make it.
• 22:59
  I mean, even at the end of this race, you saw Bazecki get off
• 23:02
  the bike. My man was like, yo, I'm done.
• 23:05
  I'm cooked. Like I had gave it all.
• 23:07
  Like the dude looked like he was ready to pass out, like his eyes
• 23:09
  were sunk in. He was so cooked.
• 23:12
  So let me let me ask this what's the deal with Fabio and the
• 23:16
  Pearls? I don't know, man.
• 23:20
  I can't. I can't, I can't.
• 23:21
  I don't know. Maybe they're his lucky pearls,
• 23:25
  you know, like. I mean, I was just like, what is
• 23:28
  what is he doing? But maybe, you know, he's
• 23:31
  getting getting closer to to God or something like that.
• 23:33
  You know, who knows? Because I think that's the first
• 23:36
  time I've seen a rider rock, rock the Pearl necklace like
• 23:42
  like that. But you know, let's talk about
• 23:44
  Marquez's crash. You know, these guy you talk
• 23:46
  about being able to do, you know, qualifying times.
• 23:49
  One lap him and Bazecki were both doing close to qualifying
• 23:52
  times in the Sprint race, you know, in the one 30s, you know,
• 23:56
  when he passed, when, when he passed Bez, You know, I, I, I,
• 24:00
  before he crashed, I felt like he was going to crash because
• 24:02
  like they were on the limit and I didn't think he needed to, to
• 24:05
  push the limit. Fighting for the championship,
• 24:08
  you know, wanting to stay healthy to finish the six, what,
• 24:12
  5 rounds? I think we have left 5 or 6
• 24:14
  rounds left, five rounds left. Do do you think that was too
• 24:18
  much to push in a little bit too much for Mark?
• 24:23
  For me or TJ. TJ.
• 24:26
  TJ, you you with us? Sorry, sorry.
• 24:28
  You go over yes, connection issues.
• 24:34
  I don't know why I'm breaking up.
• 24:36
  Yeah, man, you, you got, you got some serious connection issues,
• 24:39
  man. No, I just mean, you know,
• 24:42
  talking about the crash with Marquez in the in the Sprint
• 24:46
  race and you know, you know, pushing close to qualifying
• 24:49
  times for a couple of laps. Him and Bazecki.
• 24:53
  Do you think it was like a little bit much?
• 24:55
  He probably should have just chilled a little bit.
• 25:01
  We'll throw it over to Lewis, man.
• 25:03
  I, I, yeah, I don't think again, man.
• 25:06
  Anytime you put your helmet on, you, you, you want to be the
• 25:09
  best man. Sprint race practice,
• 25:12
  qualifying. I don't think I don't think Mark
• 25:15
  needed to do what he did as far as pass him and and and try to
• 25:20
  quickly push away. I think the pace that they were
• 25:24
  setting, they were going to separate themselves from the guy
• 25:26
  in 3rd place regardless. I think they would definitely
• 25:29
  put some distance. I think Mark should have just
• 25:31
  let him do the donkey work. Let him be out front, let him do
• 25:34
  all the the hard pushing. I mean, let him, let him be the
• 25:39
  one to win it or be. And if you get the opportunity,
• 25:42
  you know, when you get the opportunity with a couple laps
• 25:44
  left, you know, I don't think Mark has a lack of speed.
• 25:47
  As the tire grip goes down, he it seems he gets more speed.
• 25:50
  I mean, him and Bizeki were trading fastest laps of the race
• 25:54
  on lap 2526 and 27. I know, pretty so.
• 25:58
  That's crazy. That's like, you know, so again,
• 26:01
  in the Sprint race, which is half the distance, you're going
• 26:04
  to tell me that he's not going to have tire come lap 13.
• 26:08
  So you're thinking these guys are like, man, I could have
• 26:10
  pushed harder then because they had so much grip at the end,
• 26:13
  Yeah. I mean the Sprint race I would
• 26:15
  have honestly man with, with the low fuel load as early as they
• 26:19
  get the low fuel load in the Sprint race with tires that are
• 26:22
  still as fresh as they are. I mean, they could have probably
• 26:26
  set lap records, you know, in lap 1213 and 1415 and 16 of the
• 26:32
  Sprint race. So I, I, I think Mark just kind
• 26:35
  of again, and he said it himself, it's a mental lapse.
• 26:38
  You know, I got a little bit too overexcited.
• 26:41
  I started, you know, thinking that something that I should
• 26:44
  have been thinking and just that one little lapse of
• 26:47
  concentration and that's it. I crashed.
• 26:49
  But he redeemed himself on Sunday where the points are even
• 26:52
  bigger and he didn't make the same mistake.
• 26:54
  And if you've watched Mark throughout the years, that's
• 26:58
  kind of his MO. He crashes in practice to find
• 27:01
  the limit and then he tries to avoid that same mistake during
• 27:04
  the race. And this time he just, you know,
• 27:07
  it kind of bit him a little bit. He should have just waited I
• 27:09
  think a little bit more. But again, it's don't.
• 27:13
  I've always told you don't deny that half second home track
• 27:18
  advantage like Bizecki when you are in front.
• 27:22
  And I was thinking about this man, when your family shows up,
• 27:24
  when your friends are there, when everybody is there, when
• 27:27
  you see the colors of your flag flying all over the place.
• 27:31
  Trust me, man, you find that extra half second, you find that
• 27:35
  extra little motivation to like go a little faster and and Benz
• 27:40
  this weekend did an amazing job just doing that.
• 27:42
  And I think again, this goes back to Mark, you know, wanting
• 27:45
  to maybe annoy some fans that love to cheer when he crashes.
• 27:49
  You know, he got them. He got them back on Sunday.
• 27:51
  You know, you guys booed me or cheered when I crashed
• 27:54
  yesterday. Well, cry your tears today, man.
• 27:57
  Listen to the Spanish anthem right now.
• 28:04
  Paid $300 to come listen to the Spanish anthem Thank You Italy.
• 28:08
  He gave them a messy at the end of the the race on Sunday.
• 28:14
  That's harsh. Yeah.
• 28:15
  Yeah. Well, let's talk about Aprilia.
• 28:17
  And do you think, I mean, we talked about this early on when
• 28:21
  Bez won. Is it is it safe to say, you
• 28:24
  know, Martine is the #2 rider now?
• 28:26
  I mean, I think it'd be hard to, but he has to, he has to win a
• 28:30
  bunch of races before the the the pendulum switch.
• 28:34
  I mean, he's been the number 2 rider.
• 28:37
  He's been the number 2 rider. I don't think he ever was the
• 28:39
  number one rider being honest. I mean, he's just the number one
• 28:42
  plate, not the number one rider. So I mean, then when you left
• 28:47
  and you did all your antics and nonsense of BS, it was like, all
• 28:52
  right, we're going to, you know, it's like Embezz is there
• 28:57
  dealing with it. And you kind of left your
• 28:59
  teammate high and dry on like development or anything else
• 29:02
  like that. Yeah.
• 29:04
  I mean, it's safe to consider you.
• 29:06
  You're the number two guy. You're not the number one guy.
• 29:08
  We don't need you as the number one.
• 29:10
  What are your thoughts, Lewis? I think he's the number three
• 29:13
  guy. They.
• 29:19
  Might find Oliveira as a test rider, so you might be right.
• 29:24
  Did they say that? Well, at least if he's test
• 29:26
  rider, nobody can crash into him.
• 29:28
  So he'll finish. He'll finish the testing
• 29:31
  sessions, at least. He might be going to BMW 2 over
• 29:34
  in World Super Bike. Yeah, he might be going there
• 29:36
  so. Yeah, that.
• 29:37
  I mean, that's what he said. He says he wants to race, so it
• 29:39
  doesn't sound like he wants to be a test rider yet.
• 29:42
  Well, he can stay again. He'll I think he'll do well in
• 29:45
  super bike. I mean, nobody, nobody hits
• 29:47
  anybody there, so he should be fine.
• 29:51
  But on the team, I definitely Martinez is the second rider.
• 29:57
  You know, Bez is kind of taking this opportunity and really made
• 30:00
  the most of it. It was handed to him very early
• 30:02
  in the season because early in the season he knew he went into
• 30:05
  that team as the number 2 rider. You know, hey, they signed the
• 30:09
  the reigning world champion. He's literally going to have the
• 30:11
  number one plate on his bike. You know, I'm just going to have
• 30:15
  to put my head down, put in the works and see what I can do to
• 30:20
  to just carry my weight. And then, you know, Martine got
• 30:25
  hurt and then the whole controversy and even throughout
• 30:27
  all that, man, you know, Bez just put his head down and kept
• 30:31
  riding, rode it, rode through the problems, you know,
• 30:34
  finishing outside the top ten, doing everything he can do to
• 30:37
  get the bike to where it needs to be and just chipping away.
• 30:41
  And look at him now, man. You know, the dude is flying.
• 30:43
  I mean, he's really making the Aprilia look like it is a direct
• 30:48
  competitor to the Ducati. Like there's nothing really
• 30:50
  separating the two bites right now, which is amazing.
• 30:54
  And he lost his wings. And he lost the wing, you know,
• 30:57
  he did it with a, with a half a wing, so instability in the
• 31:00
  front end. But that might be a good thing.
• 31:03
  You know what cut that wing away.
• 31:05
  We went faster without it. We don't need those wings.
• 31:09
  No worries. Shit.
• 31:11
  On on the heavy right hand tracks we cut the left wing off
• 31:14
  and on the heavy left hand tracks we cut the right wing off
• 31:17
  and we're good. Yeah, that that bike got too
• 31:20
  many, too many wings too, just too many.
• 31:23
  TJ, are you back with us? What are your thoughts of
• 31:26
  Aprilia and And You know #2 rider Martine?
• 31:33
  See that way I'm going, yeah, I think I'm back with the
• 31:35
  connection. Sorry about that.
• 31:36
  And I don't know what's going on.
• 31:37
  Everything was just static. But to me, yeah, Bez is
• 31:41
  definitely looking like the number one rider right now.
• 31:44
  I mean, the way Martine ended this year and and going to a
• 31:49
  career, it just didn't start with the right foot.
• 31:52
  But he's going to have to take lead from Bez.
• 31:54
  I mean, he's he has his his front foot forward.
• 31:58
  Like I said, he's been on the dog.
• 32:00
  I've been rooting for him as well this year and he's been
• 32:03
  proven himself since the beginning of the middle of the
• 32:07
  season for that matter. So it's for him to just prove
• 32:12
  that he can still hang with Mark.
• 32:15
  I thought it was just excellent data for himself to to have pace
• 32:20
  with Mark for about 15 laps, you know, just to keep pace, knowing
• 32:26
  that he has the confidence that you know, to get better than
• 32:30
  what he what he is at now. And even though he came in
• 32:34
  second. So I think it was a win overall
• 32:37
  for Bezdecki for this weekend and I think was probably his
• 32:40
  best, one of his best race weekends, if not tired, the best
• 32:44
  as far as himself getting dated personally and the bike getting
• 32:49
  dated and and you know, him doing better than my team right
• 32:53
  now. So right, right.
• 32:55
  But yeah, on the tire and all that stuff that fell off, I
• 33:00
  don't know what's going on and I don't, I don't know if that was
• 33:03
  just cool one side of the tires. It just didn't last.
• 33:06
  But it's an interesting part that they put on the bike.
• 33:11
  Yeah, I, I agree. I think it's just one too many
• 33:14
  wings for for for sure. Let's talk about the other
• 33:18
  Ducatis, Djinn, Antonio, I mean Mobidelli, Fermandaleguia, Mark,
• 33:24
  Alex Marquez. I, I, you know, what are you,
• 33:27
  what are your thoughts on what they're doing?
• 33:30
  They look pretty good in the Sprint, you know, 2nd, 3rd, 2nd,
• 33:33
  3rd, 4th for those guys. Do you think that, you know, BR
• 33:39
  46 Academy is going to, you know, they, they got the
• 33:42
  inconsistency most of that thing because of more of a deli and
• 33:45
  stuff like that just making bad mistakes.
• 33:48
  We talked about it last week. They must have listened to the
• 33:50
  show and, you know, came out and said, yo, it's over.
• 33:54
  Don't, don't do this. Don't do anything else, man,
• 33:55
  because you know, you might not be here next year.
• 34:01
  How they, how they look? Man, they look good.
• 34:04
  I mean, more Videli look a lot solid.
• 34:06
  I mean, he didn't cause any mistakes for running into the
• 34:08
  back of anybody and getting grip penalty or getting caught up to
• 34:10
  the steward office. Like, you know, getting called
• 34:12
  to the principal's office say, hey, you need to come in here
• 34:15
  and talk to me, you know. So I mean, it was kind of nice.
• 34:19
  But the only thing about what I say with more Videli, he's very,
• 34:22
  very, very inconsistent. It's like one day he's hot, one
• 34:25
  day he's not. And it's like back and forth.
• 34:27
  It's like almost like in the galas was it's like man, come
• 34:30
  on, just stay consistent. You know, with Fabio and and Al
• 34:34
  de Guerre, I mean Al de Guerre is still as a rookie, he's still
• 34:38
  showing some pace and some brilliancy.
• 34:41
  So I mean I look forward to see what he can do in the future.
• 34:44
  Fabio, I mean, I'm looking forward to see if he can
• 34:46
  actually pick it up because you know, he had a lot of time where
• 34:49
  he was hurt or he wasn't on the right bike.
• 34:51
  So I mean, but now he's on the VR46.
• 34:53
  He has a what 25 GP, So I look forward to see what he can do.
• 34:59
  Alex, I mean, he's doing what Alex does just like another
• 35:02
  Marquez. I mean, he was solid in the
• 35:04
  race, solid in the Sprint. So I mean, he's the, he's the
• 35:09
  next in command as Marquez in the Marquez family.
• 35:13
  When he's behind Mark, do you think he should just push a
• 35:15
  little bit harder? I would say yes, but that's
• 35:20
  like, you know what they say, don't poke a sleeping bear, you
• 35:25
  know, let that bear lie or leave him alone.
• 35:27
  Like you start poking Mark, he's just going to turn up and now
• 35:29
  you going to crash. He's going to another level and
• 35:33
  you can't go to that level. You can't you can't go to that
• 35:36
  upper room yet. You're not there yet.
• 35:38
  And then I, I, from what I hear, they do live together, right?
• 35:41
  So. You can't go to that room yet.
• 35:45
  Now that's that's that's beyond your limit.
• 35:47
  Leave that room alone. So I, I don't know.
• 35:50
  I don't think I would. I don't think I would push Mark,
• 35:52
  man. I think I would kind of leave
• 35:54
  him alone. I I hear that it sounds like it
• 35:57
  sounds like a Michael Jordan thing.
• 35:59
  Don't, don't, don't look at him. Don't say nothing to him.
• 36:01
  Just just keep going. Lewis, no doubt.
• 36:06
  Lewis, what are your thoughts? I mean, I, you know, talk about
• 36:09
  Mobidal, his inconsistency. I mean, Valentino Rossi has to
• 36:15
  be yelling at him. He has to be saying something is
• 36:17
  like, yo, you're my boy. But come on, man.
• 36:19
  Like, we, we got to do something.
• 36:20
  I mean, it should have even gotten to the point where it had
• 36:23
  to be the Stuarts have to talk to him versus, you know, Rossi.
• 36:29
  Yeah, I mean, it's, it's six in one hand, half a dozen in the
• 36:33
  other. He he's inconsistent, but when
• 36:36
  he's consistent, he's always in the top five.
• 36:39
  So it's like, you know, who else can say that they're always in
• 36:44
  the top five? You know, all he needs to find
• 36:47
  is is that one missing piece where he just settles down and
• 36:51
  rides. And you know, I, I hate to say,
• 36:57
  tones down his aggression because you need aggression in
• 36:59
  this sport, but his aggression is the one thing that always
• 37:03
  gets the best of him. You know, he he doesn't like to
• 37:06
  get past. And when he gets past, he likes
• 37:09
  to fight back right away, which is the way you're kind of
• 37:11
  taught. You know, if you get past by the
• 37:13
  next corner, you want to try to already get by him, but he tries
• 37:17
  to get by him even though he can't get by them.
• 37:19
  You know, he tries to squeeze a bike into a, a, a space, decide
• 37:23
  that a credit card can barely fit in.
• 37:25
  And that's where he gets into these problems where he hits
• 37:27
  people. He, you know, he crashes himself
• 37:29
  out, he crashes other people out.
• 37:31
  He it's just dumb mistakes, man. And I, if he can get past that,
• 37:36
  I mean, the dude would be a perennial top five guy every
• 37:40
  race. I think every single race he
• 37:42
  would finish in the top five. He's got the talent, he's got
• 37:45
  the package. He just needs to like take that
• 37:48
  deep breath when somebody passes him and be like, all right, let
• 37:51
  me set him up for a pass, Not yo bonsai like, you know, kamikaze
• 37:55
  on people like it can't be, you know, win it or Bennett is win
• 38:01
  it or accept the fact that you're going to be in 5th place,
• 38:04
  you know, make it, make what you can do, do what you can.
• 38:07
  Try your best to get that space back.
• 38:09
  But if that guy passed you, chances are that you're the one
• 38:13
  that's lagging. As far as the rest of the
• 38:17
  riders, I mean the Jan Antonio, again, he does really great in
• 38:20
  the sprints because they're short races.
• 38:22
  But over a long distance race, he can't seem to put it together
• 38:26
  lap after lap. Or he only comes on at the very
• 38:29
  end, but he comes on at the very end when he's 17 seconds behind
• 38:32
  the lead. So I made-up five spots on, you
• 38:35
  know, in the last 6 laps. So I finished 8th instead of
• 38:37
  13th. Like come on man.
• 38:39
  Like it's the both. Both riders have this weird
• 38:43
  inconsistency and, you know, I don't know how you train it out
• 38:47
  of them. I don't know, you know, but
• 38:48
  again, these are mental things that you really can't train.
• 38:51
  You've already trained, you know how to ride a bike, you know how
• 38:52
  to go fast, you know how to take quarters, you know how to have
• 38:54
  to get, you know, now you just need to work on your mental
• 38:57
  game. And then the, and then the other
• 39:00
  one is Aldiguere. Aldiguere is definitely going to
• 39:02
  win rookie of the year. Nobody's got anything to beat,
• 39:04
  you know, close to him. Aldiguere is actually hoping for
• 39:09
  a reverse Sprint race where the bikes start with the hot, the
• 39:13
  tires already half used and half the fuel.
• 39:16
  And my man will probably win the race because he starts with
• 39:22
  fresh tires. He lags, lags, lags.
• 39:25
  And then we get to the halfway point when the tires drop.
• 39:28
  All of a sudden my man starts going fast.
• 39:30
  He's like, yo, where were you for the I think that they set up
• 39:33
  his bike so much to work good on used tires and low fuel that it
• 39:39
  actually makes it hard for him to ride the bike on new tires
• 39:42
  with a fuel, full fuel load. And they need to find that
• 39:45
  perfect balance. Man, he's like, I want the
• 39:47
  Marquez set up. Yeah, I want the Marquez set up
• 39:49
  when? The the bike's supposed.
• 39:51
  To be shit, that's when I want to go fast.
• 39:52
  But when the bike's supposed to be fast, I want it to be
• 39:55
  unrideable. And the, the, I mean, the kid is
• 40:01
  talented, you know, I, I, I hope that Grassini can keep him.
• 40:05
  I don't see him sane on the satellite team for very long.
• 40:08
  You know, I definitely see within, you know, next year's,
• 40:11
  the last year's deal, he's either going to end up on a
• 40:15
  factory Ducati bike or whether he's on the Grassini team or
• 40:19
  not, he'll be on a factory bike or he'll move to another
• 40:22
  factory. You know, whether it's Yamaha or
• 40:24
  whether it's Honda, like I don't this kid is too talented to stay
• 40:29
  where he's at. I honestly believe at this point
• 40:31
  right now, even though he's not in the greatest package, I think
• 40:34
  he's actually doing better than Acosta did with KTM on a
• 40:39
  consistent basis. And now you have Acosta on a
• 40:42
  factory bike and obviously they're not paying the bills
• 40:45
  because they losing chains and things are falling off and pipes
• 40:48
  aren't in, you know? Yeah, I mean, you know, we, we
• 40:51
  say, we say satellite team, but they are factory bikes.
• 40:54
  It's just a year old Is it's not the same like satellite, you
• 40:58
  know, 15 years ago, 10 years ago where parts had different serial
• 41:02
  numbers on them. Well, are they really getting
• 41:04
  the parts A? Year old bike you might be
• 41:08
  getting your old parts too, you know.
• 41:12
  On a on a Ducati, that's not bad, right?
• 41:14
  Because the 24 bike seems to be a little bit better than the
• 41:18
  than the 25 as we see with Alex and, and how well Alex is doing,
• 41:22
  right? Because we didn't think Alex is
• 41:23
  going to do as well as he's doing coming from a 23 to a 24.
• 41:26
  But we see that jump that he got this year on the bike.
• 41:30
  Yeah, no, he he definitely is putting forward the the most
• 41:34
  consistent push. So if you look at him, the Jan,
• 41:37
  Antonio Morbidelli and Aldiger of the guys not on factory
• 41:43
  bikes, he is the guy that's the most consistent.
• 41:45
  But again, a lot of that I think is also his mental game is at
• 41:49
  the strongest of anybody that's in the top, you know, 4 Ducatis
• 41:53
  that aren't factory bikes. You know, I think mentally he's
• 41:56
  the strongest guy on any given day.
• 41:58
  I think Morbidelli and the Jan Antonio are as fast, if not
• 42:03
  faster than Alex. Alex just has the mental game or
• 42:07
  the mental part of it downright. Like he's going into every
• 42:10
  weekend with the right attitude. He's going there every weekend,
• 42:14
  relax, but knowing that he definitely has an opportunity to
• 42:17
  win. And if you don't go into every
• 42:21
  weekend thinking you can win, you already lost.
• 42:23
  Like you got to go into every weekend like, yeah, I know my
• 42:25
  brother's the fastest guy that's on a motorcycle right now, but I
• 42:29
  can beat him. I know I can beat him on any
• 42:31
  given Sunday. I could beat him.
• 42:33
  And that's what you need. You need that.
• 42:36
  You know, I don't care what he's riding.
• 42:38
  I know I could beat him. Talent wise, he's not more
• 42:39
  talented than me. Equipment wise, we're on very
• 42:42
  similar equipment. So we're really going to come
• 42:44
  down to who's going to out talent the other rider this
• 42:46
  weekend. And he's done it twice, man.
• 42:48
  He's beat his brother twice. So yeah.
• 42:51
  No doubt, yeah. Let's talk about KTM.
• 42:53
  You brought it up a little bit there that, you know, the you
• 42:56
  know, they praising them a week ago now it's just kind of like I
• 43:00
  think, you know, the I don't want to throw too much shade on
• 43:04
  the engineers, but they party too much last weekend and and
• 43:08
  didn't quite catch up. Is that should somebody, you
• 43:10
  know, you know, get fired for what happened?
• 43:14
  Is it just, I mean, you know, riders crash and the bike's in
• 43:17
  good shape and the riders still have their job.
• 43:19
  So I guess getting fired is is out of the question.
• 43:22
  But you know, at this level, you know, haven't, you know, and we
• 43:26
  know chains pop, we've seen it happen to Maverick and these
• 43:28
  other guys and stuff like that. But to have two different bikes
• 43:32
  on the same weekend with the same issue, they it it it, it
• 43:37
  does cut into their stock just a little bit.
• 43:40
  What are your thoughts, TJ? Yeah, You know, it's like they
• 43:46
  say it's all good just a week ago.
• 43:48
  I think, I think, you know, for for what JT has been through and
• 43:53
  then for last round for them to get so much glory for what they
• 43:59
  were doing with like, you know, three of their bikes riding
• 44:01
  together and competing and just getting a lot of shine and
• 44:05
  actually finishing. Well, I think there's got too
• 44:08
  much glory. I don't know, somebody did
• 44:10
  something wrong, somebody's sabotaging or something.
• 44:13
  But it's just kind of far fetched to see like 2.
• 44:17
  I can see if a chain of different manufacturers probably
• 44:20
  like, oh, it's a weird weekend, but two of their bikes to happen
• 44:24
  in the same weekend. Somebody didn't sign something
• 44:27
  right or they used something wrong.
• 44:32
  But yeah, not only that, but but you know, you know, they didn't
• 44:38
  finish well, now everything finished well, Barry Bender.
• 44:42
  So they had a horrible weekend, very horrible weekend compared
• 44:45
  to last week, so. Right, Reese, what are your
• 44:49
  thoughts? You know, you're in the paddock.
• 44:51
  What are your thoughts, you know, on Acosta giving the bike
• 44:54
  the finger after that and stuff like that?
• 44:57
  Looked like he almost wanted to kick the daggone thing too is,
• 45:00
  is that a bad look for the for to from the team to him when he
• 45:04
  when he does something like that?
• 45:05
  Oh, to the team from him, I should say, Oh, it's just heat
• 45:11
  of the moment. Yeah, it could be the heat of
• 45:13
  the moment, but it still looks bad.
• 45:15
  I mean, it's like something, it's just it's you're, you're
• 45:19
  popping chains, you know? I know riders crash and things
• 45:23
  happen and you know, but it's like normally like us, we look,
• 45:28
  you look over the whole entire bike, you know, you especially
• 45:30
  with whatever side that it went down on, you know, you're,
• 45:33
  you're taking a look at everything.
• 45:34
  If you got to replace some replace it, you know, certain
• 45:37
  many miles chain gets replaced. I don't know what the heck
• 45:42
  happened, but it's like 2 bikes popping chains and it's like
• 45:45
  you're not taking your master length.
• 45:48
  Like I'm confused, like something just doesn't seem
• 45:51
  right for two chains to pop, you know, two different bikes.
• 45:54
  That just doesn't make any sense at that level.
• 45:58
  Right, is there an investigation going on or just a normal
• 46:01
  investigation that you do? Is there?
• 46:03
  Do we get the whole everybody together and talk about, you
• 46:06
  know, you know, trying to be stronger, better?
• 46:09
  I don't know. I don't know how you fix
• 46:11
  something as as you know, I don't want to say simple as
• 46:13
  this, because, you know, engine blowing up other things
• 46:16
  happening. There's so many other bigger
• 46:17
  things to worry about. Is it is it something that such
• 46:20
  a small thing that you sometimes you might overlook it?
• 46:23
  No, you ain't go overlook that because everybody normally
• 46:27
  you're going step by step. You know, you got a front guy,
• 46:29
  you got a rear guy, you know, everybody's looking at certain
• 46:32
  things and it's you know, I'm going to look over your work,
• 46:36
  you're going to look over my work.
• 46:37
  It's always like 2 to three eyes sets on it, like going back over
• 46:39
  it just to double check it. And no, it just doesn't make any
• 46:44
  sense. Somebody's going to get, I don't
• 46:46
  know if somebody's going to get fired.
• 46:47
  I would not say, but some it's going to get a less of a
• 46:49
  paycheck. It's going to be a deduction
• 46:52
  somewhere like like, yeah, you got to get a deduction for this
• 46:56
  one because it doesn't make any sense for two Chainz.
• 46:59
  Like I got to use it. I could see if it was 1 and all
• 47:01
  these guys are like Space Engine.
• 47:03
  They're they're high class engineers.
• 47:06
  You know, they're making stuff out of everything.
• 47:07
  So you can't tell me you didn't check this chain out.
• 47:10
  Like that just doesn't make any sense.
• 47:11
  Something, something's wrong here.
• 47:13
  Somebody missed something all. Right, Miss the numbers guy.
• 47:16
  What do you got on the on KTM? And you know, you're in the back
• 47:19
  office and and you know, you just got this money in and
• 47:22
  everything. You're sitting here ready to
• 47:24
  order your yacht and all this stuff.
• 47:26
  And now this happened like, you know, do you do you spill your
• 47:28
  coffee? What happened?
• 47:29
  You got to take the mute off. You got to take the mute off.
• 47:36
  That's how I'm working at KTM. I'm not ordering a yacht because
• 47:39
  I'm broke. Well, you can order, yeah, you
• 47:43
  just might rent it. I sold all my stock before they
• 47:46
  before I went in the toilet. No, I turn around, be like,
• 47:50
  look, I know we're cutting corners, but let's stop buying
• 47:53
  chains off Timu because they don't work.
• 47:55
  Let's go back to buying good chains and good master links.
• 48:00
  You bought out the eBay. Because yeah, buying, buying
• 48:03
  them on Timu is not working out for us guys.
• 48:06
  Come on, let's work as a team, man.
• 48:12
  I don't know who gets fired, man.
• 48:13
  I mean, that's definitely something that as a team you
• 48:15
  have to find the the cause of that error because you can't
• 48:19
  have that error, you know, at this level, you can't have that
• 48:22
  error. This is you can blow motors, you
• 48:26
  can have other issues. And we spoke before the show,
• 48:29
  you know, all bikes have a schedule.
• 48:31
  And the schedule is how many miles or kilometers before we do
• 48:35
  this, this, this and this. And, you know, a lot of these
• 48:38
  bikes, the chains will run for a certain amount of miles, but the
• 48:42
  chains will get checked in between every session.
• 48:45
  They'll rotate the tire. They'll make sure there's not
• 48:47
  any bent or damaged links. Like this is what Reece was
• 48:50
  talking about. Everybody checks everybody's
• 48:52
  work. So for two bikes to have the
• 48:55
  same issue in the same weekend and I'm positive there's more
• 48:59
  than one set of eyes that looked over that chain.
• 49:02
  You know, what's the issue here man?
• 49:04
  Is it a manufacturing issue from the chain supplier or you know,
• 49:09
  what were they using the same maybe chain rivet tool that
• 49:12
  wasn't working properly So it looks like it riveted correctly.
• 49:16
  I don't know man. There's so many things people
• 49:18
  overlook a chain and, and it has, you know, one master link
• 49:22
  and 1 rivet and that's it. Yeah, it is.
• 49:25
  But you know, there's a lot of nuances to making sure that the
• 49:28
  chain is right, making sure the rivet is tight, making sure this
• 49:31
  is work, that there aren't any kicks when you put a rivet,
• 49:33
  Making sure the chain flows, probably making sure the
• 49:35
  sprockets are right, making sure there's not damage to the
• 49:38
  sprocket that could damage the chain.
• 49:39
  Like, but This is why you have a team of guys.
• 49:42
  This is why you have more than just one mechanic.
• 49:44
  And for this to happen, I mean, this is probably KTM's worst
• 49:51
  looking weekend, not just the way they performed on the track,
• 49:54
  but just look wise, you know, this is, this is the kind of
• 49:57
  thing that makes a team look amateur.
• 50:01
  And this is a very, very amateur looking moment for them.
• 50:04
  You know, not only did they have only one rider finish and three
• 50:08
  riders DNF, you know, you had two riders in the same weekend
• 50:12
  lose a chain. You had one rider that was in a
• 50:14
  position to possibly get on a podium to lose a chain.
• 50:18
  You know, as far as Acosta, again, this is a this is a
• 50:22
  motion sport. So the emotions will get the
• 50:24
  best of you and you will get pissed off and you know,
• 50:27
  whatever. But when the temperature cools
• 50:31
  down in the room, like my man, that bike might have failed you.
• 50:34
  But that bike is also paying your check.
• 50:37
  And the company behind that bike is paying your salary.
• 50:41
  And you have to understand that if you flip off their bike, like
• 50:45
  that's not a good look. That's the kind of thing that
• 50:47
  damages relationships because that image now lives forever on
• 50:51
  our Internet. You know, if I want to make a
• 50:53
  meme about KTM sucks, I'll literally pull up the picture of
• 50:58
  their own writer in a KTM Red Bull suit giving the bike the
• 51:02
  finger. Like this shit writes itself
• 51:04
  man. You don't even need the writer
• 51:06
  for the show. Like it writes itself.
• 51:07
  The memes create themselves. So who has to apologize?
• 51:13
  I think the team should apologize to him and then in
• 51:15
  return, Pedro Acosta should apologize to KTMI.
• 51:18
  Let the moment get a get a hold of me.
• 51:21
  You know, it was, I was, I was in fourth place.
• 51:23
  I was trying to race to get into the podium position.
• 51:26
  And you know, in the heat of the moment I did that.
• 51:29
  But you know, I, I absolutely respect the team.
• 51:32
  I absolutely respect the brand. I know you guys work just as
• 51:35
  hard as I work. We win and lose as a team, you
• 51:38
  know, But I'm out there, I'm putting my life on the line, and
• 51:41
  for something like that to happen, obviously my emotions
• 51:44
  got the better of me. I apologize.
• 51:45
  That's that professional way to do it.
• 51:48
  Well, you know the last time you know something not necessary
• 51:52
  chain happening, but unhappy rider.
• 51:54
  You know that right end up going to preview next year.
• 51:57
  You think it's, you know, other mid teams are calling up Pedro
• 52:00
  like, hey man, come this way. No, I mean, what is there?
• 52:04
  There's a what on one ride left open?
• 52:07
  Or two rides? 27 you know.
• 52:11
  I mean, again, he's a talented writer.
• 52:14
  If he's finishing strong enough and he's doing well enough on
• 52:17
  the KTMA year from now, there's going to be team knocking on his
• 52:20
  door. You know, certain level of
• 52:22
  talent, people will follow you, people will want to work with
• 52:25
  you. But you know, you have to just
• 52:29
  that, right? Balance of talent and being an
• 52:31
  asshole. And if the the assholeness
• 52:34
  outweighs the talent, eventually nobody's going to want to work
• 52:37
  with you. Eventually you're going to move
• 52:38
  from team to team to team to team, and then you're going to
• 52:41
  find out there's no teams left after this team and no team
• 52:45
  wants you because all the teams that worked with you before have
• 52:47
  pretty much blackballed you. You know, this is the the
• 52:49
  Vinales effect. Where does the Vinales go after
• 52:51
  KTM? Nowhere.
• 52:53
  Yamaha's not going to want him back.
• 52:55
  He bought a bunch of stock, man. He's all, he's good.
• 52:58
  His his only chance after this I think is he goes to Honda.
• 53:02
  I think Honda's the only team that hasn't fired him.
• 53:04
  Yeah, yeah, I think so. Speaking of Honda, let's let's
• 53:06
  jump right into it. I I don't, I don't, I mean, I
• 53:09
  think they had it does on paper, it might not look like they had
• 53:12
  a good weekend, but I felt like Honda had a good weekend.
• 53:14
  What do you, what do you, what do you guys thoughts?
• 53:16
  We'll start with TJ. I mean, you know, mayor went
• 53:21
  down so like that's a given every weekend.
• 53:24
  So but overall, let's see, you know, Luca Marini finished 7th.
• 53:32
  I I feel like he's been doing a lot better second-half of the
• 53:36
  season. He's finally find himself.
• 53:39
  So yeah, I think Han is definitely improving slowly, but
• 53:42
  shortly there's just a lot of still unfortunate situations
• 53:46
  like with the mirror and then sometimes Zapo giving is all
• 53:50
  going down. But I think going into next
• 53:53
  year, they'll have a higher expectation to where to be, try
• 53:58
  to be better than, you know, a pro year or Yamaha for sure.
• 54:02
  But I think they had overall good weekend.
• 54:05
  Yeah, I, I think if Mia didn't crash out, he, he would have had
• 54:09
  a, a good weekend. What are your thoughts, ERISA
• 54:12
  on, on, on where Honda is? You know, Marini qualified 6th,
• 54:17
  only dropped one position in both races.
• 54:20
  So that's that's, I mean, obviously it's, it's always best
• 54:23
  to go forward, but at least, you know, he didn't have a back
• 54:26
  nine. What are your thoughts?
• 54:28
  No, I definitely say Honda had a good weekend.
• 54:30
  I mean, like I said, I mean Mir crashing out.
• 54:33
  I mean, that's nothing really new.
• 54:36
  I mean, that's that's like a give and take.
• 54:39
  That's like Pekka being, you know, back where he's at.
• 54:43
  But no, I mean, Luka Marini has really shown some talent on that
• 54:48
  bike. He's really pushed it up there
• 54:50
  to the forefront. You know, Zarko is Zarko and
• 54:53
  he's, you know, unfortunately he crashed.
• 54:55
  But I think once next year comes, he gets a factory bike.
• 54:59
  I think he'll be up there in the up there in the top five.
• 55:04
  So I think they're actually doing very well.
• 55:05
  They've actually figured out that bike.
• 55:07
  They're actually pushing forward and doing a showing a lot more
• 55:10
  promising. And then my boys in Yamaha and I
• 55:15
  just feel as though they're they're they're going to come
• 55:17
  next year ready to play versus, you know, the boys in blue.
• 55:20
  I think they're going to come ready to play all.
• 55:22
  Right, we're going to move on to that in a little bit.
• 55:24
  But what are your thoughts Lewis on on Honda what Lucas doing
• 55:28
  really good job and and Zaco, yes, it's tough, but it sounds
• 55:31
  like from a Zaco of what I've seen on social media and stuff
• 55:35
  like that, seems like he's not getting the same parts, which is
• 55:38
  kind of weird. He's the only one that's won a a
• 55:41
  a a a race this year. And you think that just on GP
• 55:44
  they should just give him the same parts?
• 55:47
  You would think so, but you know, if it's not in your
• 55:49
  contract and it's not something they have to do, it's not
• 55:51
  something they will do. You know, it's just a business.
• 55:54
  It's not a, it's not a, it's show business, not show friends.
• 55:58
  So you you get what you contractually are obligated to
• 56:03
  get. You can ask for extra, but if
• 56:05
  they don't want to give it to you, you can't really complain.
• 56:09
  For me, I think everybody at all the riders at Honda need to go
• 56:14
  crash at Suzuka and come back as good as Marini because Marini
• 56:19
  ever since his crash at Suzuka is a whole new rider, like he's
• 56:23
  riding on a different level. He's the he's now, I think this
• 56:26
  is his fifth top ten finish in a row, which is amazing, you know,
• 56:32
  considering Rinz is technically the number one rider at Honda
• 56:36
  and you know, he's either in the crash truck or maybe in the top
• 56:40
  10. Me.
• 56:41
  Oh, you mean? I mean me, but yeah, Rinz is
• 56:44
  always in the crash truck. Sorry about that.
• 56:51
  But yeah, Marini, Marini is doing great, man.
• 56:53
  This is, you know, like I said, 5 top 10s in a row almost for
• 56:57
  him, which is amazing considering where he came from.
• 57:00
  You know, a lot of people are saying the the injury might have
• 57:03
  cost him the second-half of the season and he actually came back
• 57:06
  stronger. Whatever he did during that
• 57:08
  break, all the Honda riders need to go do that, do that same
• 57:12
  thing that he did during his break and then come back and
• 57:15
  ride again because either he got rejuvenated, you know, he was in
• 57:19
  the Lazarus pits. The DC Comics thing got a new
• 57:24
  life, got a new life. But it's great to see Honda up
• 57:29
  there. And I, I said this in the last
• 57:31
  show or a couple shows again going into next year, I really
• 57:34
  believe Honda is in a better position than Yamaha because
• 57:38
  more of their riders are finishing consistently closer to
• 57:41
  the top. And today they had their or they
• 57:45
  had their first big test on the V4.
• 57:47
  And the feedback that has been being posted online hasn't been
• 57:51
  very positive. Like, you know, Quadraro posted
• 57:54
  something like it's actually a step back from the inline 4,
• 57:57
  which is, which is difficult to believe, But you know, Quadraro
• 58:02
  is the fastest guy in an inline 4.
• 58:03
  And if he says that it's a step back from the inline 4I mean
• 58:07
  maybe that's just him motivating Yamaha to develop the motor more
• 58:11
  and to get it to where he wants it.
• 58:13
  But I believe he was about a second and a quarter slower than
• 58:17
  his fastest time on the in line 4.
• 58:20
  Was he wearing his Pearl necklace?
• 58:22
  No, he wasn't. So that might also account for
• 58:24
  the extra half second faster. You know, pearls make you fly,
• 58:29
  man. Pearls make you fly.
• 58:31
  Make something happen. But yeah, let's talk about
• 58:33
  Yamaha a little bit more and, and I'll say this and you know,
• 58:36
  you a Reese, you know, you're the professional and all this a
• 58:41
  new engine, a different characteristic than they've ever
• 58:44
  done in, in, in Yamaha and stuff like that.
• 58:47
  You know, if it was too, if the test was two weeks from today
• 58:50
  or, you know, enough time, do you think Quattro, I would have
• 58:53
  had the same statement on social media because it, it, it's, it's
• 58:57
  going to feel different. The Revs are going to be
• 58:58
  different. Could it just he just needs time
• 59:01
  to just get adjusted? Not really.
• 59:05
  I mean, I think they are, they are just those riders kind of
• 59:08
  adjust very fast to their situation.
• 59:10
  You know, normally they can adjust, they can figure it out.
• 59:12
  They can feel this difference. I mean, you know, our guys can
• 59:15
  jump on something different and feel the difference like, you
• 59:18
  know, quick, fast and hurry. They can feel the difference
• 59:20
  between tires like all right, so I I don't know what the whole
• 59:26
  scenario is. I mean, it's so like, like Lewis
• 59:28
  said there, I saw it today, there was something saying
• 59:32
  Quatro was saying that it feels worse.
• 59:36
  I don't know if that was something that he said or was it
• 59:39
  a post or whatever. I'm like, all right, maybe it's
• 59:41
  not, but I mean it just, if it is, it's not a good look.
• 59:47
  It's really not a good look if it is.
• 59:49
  I mean, I know it's a stepping stone and it's just a start, but
• 59:53
  I mean, you still have time to figure it out and get more into
• 59:55
  it. But I mean, look, man, the
• 59:57
  clock's ticking. You're going to lose your rider.
• 1:00:00
  You know, we we've seen in the past riders switch manufacturers
• 1:00:03
  and it takes them a whole season to get up to speed.
• 1:00:05
  I know you say these guys get quick, fast, in a hurry, but
• 1:00:08
  like, you know, sometimes, you know, we see Bastianini where
• 1:00:11
  he's at today versus when he first started on the KTM, same
• 1:00:15
  thing with Maverick and stuff like that.
• 1:00:16
  So I mean, you know, do you think that we hope that he
• 1:00:20
  didn't say it? But if he did say it, do you
• 1:00:22
  think that's, you know, again, something that you know needs to
• 1:00:24
  be said because you still need a little bit adjustment?
• 1:00:29
  You do. But then that comes down to the
• 1:00:33
  two parties working together, you know, from the rider telling
• 1:00:36
  the crew chief and then the crew chief actually implemented to
• 1:00:39
  the team to figure the fix it. Because if the rider can't talk
• 1:00:43
  to the crew chief and tell him what he was wrong and crew chief
• 1:00:47
  can't fix it. If the crew chief is an idiot
• 1:00:50
  and the rider is telling you this and not going to do it,
• 1:00:52
  it's it's like like one hand washes the other hand.
• 1:00:55
  So it's like you get the riders got to learn how to talk to the
• 1:00:57
  crew chief and explain what is exactly going on, and now it's
• 1:01:01
  like I got to figure this out on what's going on.
• 1:01:05
  OK, Lewis, what are your thoughts, man?
• 1:01:08
  OK, TJ, go ahead, jump in. Oh, I mean, you had some, I
• 1:01:12
  mean, I, I, I know everybody's decided to see this before and,
• 1:01:18
  and it's a, it's a, it's a big change, you know, like I think
• 1:01:21
  can't. Wait to see this.
• 1:01:23
  Oh yeah, I can't wait for it's ready for us to ride, you know,
• 1:01:26
  well, let them get the kicks out the way now, you know, but I
• 1:01:29
  feel like everyone wants the results right away.
• 1:01:32
  And I don't think just one test is going to just you're going to
• 1:01:36
  see so much improvement. And it's also a different, you
• 1:01:40
  know, engine. So, you know, Fabio is
• 1:01:44
  definitely the one that to dial it in, I'm sure.
• 1:01:47
  So I just can't wait to see see a couple more tests on him to
• 1:01:51
  see what it can do, But I don't know.
• 1:01:55
  I just I just I just can't wait. But I was going to ask the the
• 1:01:59
  laptop that they're going now on it.
• 1:02:01
  Like obviously there's room for improvement.
• 1:02:04
  So for fabulous saying that it's slower or feel slower, does that
• 1:02:09
  really matter at this stage? Like what what do you really
• 1:02:12
  want to see or or feel when you go out there and test this at
• 1:02:16
  this time, knowing that he busts his ass and pulled out a 137 and
• 1:02:23
  then this this V4 I think did like a 139 or 38 or something
• 1:02:28
  like that. So I mean.
• 1:02:32
  You do know that inline 4 makes more power than the V4, right?
• 1:02:36
  What you say, but what you know, I'm just saying like what it
• 1:02:42
  what like what do they really expect it to be faster at this
• 1:02:45
  point going out there? So that's that's I just can't
• 1:02:49
  wait for them to like dial it in and and tune it a little better.
• 1:02:52
  So. I, I would, I would, I would
• 1:02:56
  send a retort to that from Fabio that would say you guys been
• 1:03:01
  developing this bike for about 17 God damn years now.
• 1:03:04
  You telling me you can't come with a better engine?
• 1:03:08
  That's that's as as Quadraro. That's what I would say.
• 1:03:11
  Like I've been waiting for this engine since like 2020 and now
• 1:03:16
  you guys come with this engine and it's still can't even beat
• 1:03:20
  the engine I'm on now. How it's going to beat Ducati
• 1:03:22
  that's been making this V4 for years now they're just going to
• 1:03:27
  kick our asses even worse. Like why are we going backwards?
• 1:03:30
  Like you guys should bring me an engine today that's going to
• 1:03:33
  blow my pants off, not give me an engine.
• 1:03:36
  Be like, hey, you're going to have to work on this to get it
• 1:03:38
  to where my current ship box is at.
• 1:03:40
  So I got to go ship box backwards to get your ship box
• 1:03:44
  current before I get to ship box forward.
• 1:03:46
  Come on. Is it just engine and chassis
• 1:03:51
  has not changed a little? Nothing.
• 1:03:52
  Is it literally just they just took the engine and just put in
• 1:03:54
  the same chassis? No, if you look at the
• 1:03:56
  dimensions of the bike, they definitely made some changes to
• 1:03:59
  the bike to be able to fit the engine like, but even then, I
• 1:04:03
  mean, this is things that engineers know how to do and how
• 1:04:06
  to still get the same dynamics out of the bike.
• 1:04:08
  And Reese will tell, you know, Reese will tell you, these guys
• 1:04:11
  will show up with an engine that is reinforce so it can hold the
• 1:04:19
  stresses of the torsion of the motor.
• 1:04:22
  It will show up with a, you know, a reinforced steering
• 1:04:25
  column of fully adjustable steering head, multiple
• 1:04:28
  positions for the swing arm. Like they just don't show up
• 1:04:31
  with a motor and stick it in the old frame.
• 1:04:32
  Be like yo go ride. Like there's a lot of other
• 1:04:35
  development that goes around the bike.
• 1:04:38
  But the core of this is the engine.
• 1:04:40
  Like we've they've been asking for an engine that can compete
• 1:04:43
  with the Ducatis and the Aprilias and everybody else
• 1:04:47
  that's on the V fours that's out powering them down the
• 1:04:49
  straightaways because they get more drive out of the corners.
• 1:04:52
  Because that's the dynamic of a of a twin type of engine is you
• 1:04:57
  get more low end torque. So you can get that bounce out
• 1:05:01
  of the corner and that helps you reach that higher top speed
• 1:05:04
  because you got that initial bounce instead of like a inline
• 1:05:07
  4, which might not get that additional bounce has more top
• 1:05:10
  end. But what good is the top end if
• 1:05:12
  the bike's already 10 bike lanes in front of me when it's time to
• 1:05:14
  get to the braking zone? Like that's the dynamic they're
• 1:05:17
  trying to get to. So if he's saying it's worse
• 1:05:21
  than what I have now, if that's a true statement, maybe that's
• 1:05:26
  just Quattraro trying to push Yamaha to make it even better,
• 1:05:29
  bring me something even better. Like I need to be competitive
• 1:05:31
  today. I can't keep riding at 10 plus
• 1:05:35
  just to try to finish in 6th place.
• 1:05:38
  And how much of that is is it is any of that fall back on the
• 1:05:40
  test riders They have, I mean, granted, kind of crush knows is
• 1:05:44
  is out of Yamaha now is any but we you know, we got Fernandez as
• 1:05:50
  a test rider. He's he's he has less experience
• 1:05:53
  in Moto GP than than than than all the Yamaha guys.
• 1:05:56
  Is any of that fall on those guys to say, you know, y'all
• 1:05:59
  didn't see something or is it all on on Yamaha Corp?
• 1:06:04
  It's probably a combination, you know, I don't think it's only on
• 1:06:07
  the test riders. I think it's a combination
• 1:06:09
  because the test riders are test riders because they're not Moto
• 1:06:12
  GP champions, they're not perennial at the front winners.
• 1:06:16
  You know, they retire and they become test riders or they can't
• 1:06:20
  find a career in GP or World Superman going to become test
• 1:06:22
  rider. I mean Stephen Brattle was the
• 1:06:24
  Honda test rider for years and he's a very competent rider.
• 1:06:28
  He's a top level rider. He never really was the fastest
• 1:06:31
  guy Moto GP, but he can tell you what it takes to be that fast.
• 1:06:35
  And then that last five 10%, the fast guys have to develop that
• 1:06:40
  last five 10%. So I'm sure that they got plenty
• 1:06:44
  of data from whoever the test riders are and we'll see who
• 1:06:47
  their new test rider is going to be now that Kyle Crutchell is
• 1:06:50
  out. But.
• 1:06:52
  Dovey. Oh, is it?
• 1:06:54
  I mean, Dovey knows how to win. No, Dovey knows how to go fast.
• 1:06:57
  So I don't think he's going to not know how to go fast.
• 1:06:59
  And he can give them a lot of data of what they did also at
• 1:07:01
  Ducati. But again, they just got to
• 1:07:05
  bring the package up to speed. They got to find that extra
• 1:07:08
  510%, whatever it's going to take.
• 1:07:10
  You know, you can't give a top rider a worse package.
• 1:07:14
  You got to give him something at least close to where he's at
• 1:07:16
  that he can move forward with. Anyone else want to add anything
• 1:07:22
  to the new Yamaha? Baseball, I think it's the
• 1:07:25
  track. They they, it's that Majello or
• 1:07:28
  something be different. Yeah, but you got to race at
• 1:07:32
  every track, yeah. You got to make.
• 1:07:34
  Motor that's only been at 1:00. Track.
• 1:07:37
  I'm saying it's a tense. They're just, you know, I feel
• 1:07:39
  like, you know, it's. No, but this is the perfect time
• 1:07:42
  to have a test. The reason you have a test right
• 1:07:45
  after race weekend is you have all the data from the race
• 1:07:47
  weekend and then you can go out there and try these new parts
• 1:07:50
  and see how they change the data that's coming back.
• 1:07:54
  So they just raised the entire weekend on the inline 4.
• 1:07:56
  They know what they can do on the inline 4.
• 1:07:58
  They put the V4 out there and when they compare the data side
• 1:08:01
  to side, you can literally see how much better or worse the
• 1:08:05
  inline 4 is in the different areas.
• 1:08:08
  Like you can go corner by corner and see, hey, the V4 was
• 1:08:10
  actually 1/10 faster here, but it was a quarter second slower
• 1:08:14
  here or it was this here with and then you see at the
• 1:08:17
  consistency lap after lap. Is this just that one lap?
• 1:08:21
  This rider didn't judge the corner correctly.
• 1:08:23
  So he's a second, you know, a 10th of a second faster, slower.
• 1:08:26
  And then you overlay both datas. I mean, there's a lot of numbers
• 1:08:29
  crunching behind this and you try to find what would be the
• 1:08:32
  perfect lap on the V4, what would be the perfect lap on the
• 1:08:35
  in line for. And let's find where the
• 1:08:38
  differences are and see what we can do.
• 1:08:39
  Now let's go back to the drawing board.
• 1:08:42
  Let's develop this a little bit more.
• 1:08:43
  Let's figure out where we're weak and try to get it up and
• 1:08:47
  beyond with the inline 4 is. Yeah, they don't have to.
• 1:08:50
  They end up going back. I mean, the inline 4 is pretty
• 1:08:53
  much maxed out. So this is their statement
• 1:08:56
  Grace, right? So they're going to have to
• 1:08:59
  develop it now because the test didn't really show much.
• 1:09:03
  Yeah, but and Reese, like Reese, you'll be the best guy for this.
• 1:09:07
  But when you develop a motor like that, you spending
• 1:09:09
  millions, you're not spending 10s of thousands.
• 1:09:11
  This ain't a super sport. Motor in motor America is like
• 1:09:14
  18 grand. This is millions of dollars
• 1:09:16
  you're spending. And are you spending it just to
• 1:09:19
  go racing or do you hope to one day sell that motor?
• 1:09:22
  Because remember, Ducati and Aprilia sell V fours.
• 1:09:26
  Honda del. Yamaha does not sell V fours.
• 1:09:30
  Because I hear Cali's trying to make a new motor from what
• 1:09:33
  someone told me this weekend. But the problem is it's costing
• 1:09:36
  them $2.5 million to make a new motor because, you know,
• 1:09:40
  everything is lighter weight. The new crankshaft, the rods,
• 1:09:43
  everything is lightweight now, so it's too heavy.
• 1:09:46
  So they're trying to figure out one, but it's going to cost them
• 1:09:48
  so much money. Yeah.
• 1:09:51
  So, Reese, you're not looking forward to the V4 trickling down
• 1:09:53
  to the R1? I mean give me an inline 4.
• 1:10:01
  It'll be a little skinnier, you know?
• 1:10:05
  I mean, yeah, be a little hotter too.
• 1:10:06
  Be a lot hotter. Your balls just the.
• 1:10:12
  Decree A Honda V fours don't get hot man.
• 1:10:14
  I had one don't get. Hot, I mean, but if you know, if
• 1:10:18
  you can, if you can redesign an inline 4, you can redesign an
• 1:10:23
  inline 4 and make it have more power than that V4, right?
• 1:10:28
  It was V. 4 Yamaha then in Moto GP.
• 1:10:31
  Well, I mean that motor is just is over.
• 1:10:34
  It's like the 70s. It just don't have it.
• 1:10:38
  You got to figure that out. But like like Lewis said, I mean
• 1:10:42
  it's just literally like with the V4, you have so much torque
• 1:10:46
  at the bottom and it delivers the power smoothly and higher
• 1:10:50
  than the inline 4. The inline 4 is top end, but
• 1:10:54
  like you said, if you're already wet, you know 12 places behind
• 1:10:58
  by the time I try to catch up to you.
• 1:11:01
  What the hell am I doing? I'm not going to make it.
• 1:11:02
  I'm not. I'm missing that level.
• 1:11:04
  So you can make more power out of LN4, but the way the V4
• 1:11:07
  delivers its power, that's where we're at.
• 1:11:09
  It delivers its power different. Yeah, yeah, I can.
• 1:11:13
  I mean, you know, to go to Motor America, Race one and Race 2
• 1:11:16
  with Cam on the BMW, you know, they made the bike a little bit
• 1:11:20
  slower and he went a little bit faster.
• 1:11:22
  You can see it coming down the back straight away.
• 1:11:24
  He could just but Cam is on the you know, BMW is an inline 4.
• 1:11:29
  But you can see the power difference and you can see the
• 1:11:31
  power difference with Josh. You can see the power difference
• 1:11:36
  is there. I mean, I think the top speed
• 1:11:41
  was 197 and we were clocked that.
• 1:11:44
  Yeah, something like that. Not bad, not bad.
• 1:11:46
  Let's let's talk about Motagi before we get out of here.
• 1:11:49
  Is it kind of status quo Marquez, Marquez or you know, is
• 1:11:55
  it safe to say he's going to win the championship in Motegi or
• 1:11:59
  it's possible it could even be stretched out a little bit
• 1:12:00
  longer? No, it's over.
• 1:12:06
  He did kind of take a press conference.
• 1:12:09
  I think the attention is finally slightly on Alex to do good, you
• 1:12:14
  know, for these last couple of rounds and you know, he's been
• 1:12:17
  excited and you know, you see the trying to have him bounce
• 1:12:21
  back a little bit, but you know, there's nothing else can do.
• 1:12:25
  It's over. It's over, I give it up.
• 1:12:30
  Yeah, I don't see Alex winning the Sprint and the the race and
• 1:12:35
  I don't see Mark crashing out of the Sprint and the race.
• 1:12:39
  So short of those two scenarios, you know, I don't think it'll go
• 1:12:43
  pass with Taggy and I think this will be the 4th time or fifth
• 1:12:48
  time that Mark actually wins the championship at Mutegi.
• 1:12:52
  Wow. But this will be the time that
• 1:12:54
  hurts Honda the most because every other time he's been on a
• 1:12:56
  Honda and this time at the Honda official home track, they get to
• 1:13:02
  see a guy in a Ducati winning at their home track, which I'm sure
• 1:13:06
  that's fire on the Honda's ass. Yep, your old guy is out there
• 1:13:11
  whooping your ass. Yep.
• 1:13:14
  And you know, last thing, I guess is how how should Alex
• 1:13:17
  look at this? Because I mean, he's had he this
• 1:13:19
  is his best season in Moto GP. So it is a win for him
• 1:13:22
  finishing. I mean, he still hasn't finished
• 1:13:24
  second. So we don't know.
• 1:13:25
  We got a lot some rounds left and I don't know, I don't have
• 1:13:27
  the points up in front of me, but it's possible.
• 1:13:29
  You know, anything can happen by the end of it.
• 1:13:31
  But it's a good, it's, it's a good year for Alex, right?
• 1:13:36
  Oh yeah, yeah. I mean unless pecker, no pecker
• 1:13:41
  going to catch him. Well, Bez is 1011 points behind
• 1:13:45
  Petco, so I I think, I think Bez is probably going to finish
• 1:13:48
  third in the championship. Well, that was a given.
• 1:13:52
  Beka can't even finish a race. Yeah, I think, I think Alex is
• 1:13:58
  going to definitely, I mean, he should be real happy.
• 1:14:02
  I think he's scored more points this year than he's ever scored
• 1:14:04
  in his life at this level. If he stays on track the way
• 1:14:09
  he's at right now, he might actually finish with 400 points,
• 1:14:15
  which, you know, and a couple of years ago, 400 points, you would
• 1:14:18
  have been Moto GP champion, 400 points.
• 1:14:21
  So I think he should walk away, you know, with his head held
• 1:14:23
  high. I mean, the dude came out of
• 1:14:25
  nowhere. Nobody expected him to be in the
• 1:14:27
  positions he he's in. Nobody expected him to do as
• 1:14:29
  well as he did this year. Expected this to him.
• 1:14:31
  You know, he's got zero pressure on him.
• 1:14:34
  He goes and rides. He does well and everything's
• 1:14:37
  everything's great. But I don't see the I don't see
• 1:14:41
  the championship again going going past this weekend unless
• 1:14:45
  unless it's a crazy freaky, something freaky Fridays.
• 1:14:50
  Isn't it raining with Davi and Lorenzo on the Ducati and and?
• 1:14:54
  Mark out there it does. I will say this, it does rain
• 1:14:58
  pretty often at Mutegi. It does rain pretty often in
• 1:15:01
  Mutegi so, but I still don't doubt that Mark will throw it
• 1:15:05
  down a tube. And even if he does, then he'll
• 1:15:08
  just win at the the following event, I mean.
• 1:15:10
  He's just so far ahead. I mean, he's already broken the
• 1:15:12
  points, the points scoring record with still 5 rounds to
• 1:15:16
  go. And I think somebody said this,
• 1:15:19
  that he has the opportunity to possibly exceed 600 points in a
• 1:15:25
  season, which he yeah, which would be like almost 100 points
• 1:15:30
  more than last year when Martine set the record at like 506
• 1:15:35
  points or something. Yeah, 5 or 7, I believe.
• 1:15:37
  Yeah. So that's crazy, dude.
• 1:15:38
  Like 600 points. It's going.
• 1:15:41
  I don't see that happening again for a long time. 600 is a lot of
• 1:15:44
  points, man, lot of witness and greatness.
• 1:15:47
  Witness and greatness. We are.
• 1:15:49
  We are. Indeed, it's it's it's it's it's
• 1:15:52
  it's a beautiful. Thing to watch and see what's
• 1:15:54
  happening in Moto GP right now, what he's doing for sure and you
• 1:15:59
  know the rest of the field you know all they can do is just
• 1:16:02
  wake up and try to be better the next day.
• 1:16:03
  At least they know where the bar is.
• 1:16:05
  So or the corner bar, whichever one tie.
• 1:16:11
  No doubt. I want to thank you guys for
• 1:16:13
  coming on TJ 2. Wheels and two wheels and
• 1:16:16
  coffee. The Rio Luis Ortega, the numbers
• 1:16:18
  guy Reese from Mataki Yamaha performance, right.
• 1:16:21
  Drive safe Reese. See you in Jersey.
• 1:16:24
  Make sure you get more than them two T-shirts from You know Who
• 1:16:29
  You Owe me a Hoodie T-shirts. A whole bunch, man.
• 1:16:32
  I'll take. 1. I'll bring what he got that.
• 1:16:40
  Means he's only bringing 2 more than two.
• 1:16:44
  I just can't guarantee what's going to fit you.
• 1:16:47
  All I need is the XL man Italian.
• 1:16:51
  XL is different than American. XL.
• 1:16:53
  That's all. Well then I need A2 XL there.
• 1:16:55
  Give me two XL. Oh, no doubt.
• 1:16:59
  Take it easy, fellows. Peace.