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Episode 199: A New Hope for Our Goldfish Attention Spans · Chucks Cantina

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  Speaker 1: This is Chuck's Cantina podcast where anything and everything is
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  Speaker 1: up for discussion. And now here's your barman, Chuck o'donald.
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  Speaker 2: Oh like you're ready?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, You're like can you hear it? Can you hear me?
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  Speaker 2: I'm like a start of it. You're like, oh, hold
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  Speaker 2: on and then.
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  Speaker 3: Reading girl brother, Oh whatever?
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  Speaker 2: Oh logan the Chucks Cantina. I'm your favorite barman host.
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  Speaker 2: They call me Chuck. Thanks for joining us today episode
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  Speaker 2: fuck hold on on Like I just released an episode
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  Speaker 2: the day we're recording this. Welcome Episode one ninety eight
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  Speaker 2: Truxcantina Choxy Dangina dot com Clicking it Clack is back.
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  Speaker 2: I wonder if he's still as enthusiastic as he was
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  Speaker 2: last week.
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  Speaker 3: I can go on hours.
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  Speaker 2: Is that what you keep telling yourself? I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: don't got a spotsor ranting like that.
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  Speaker 3: Dude, brother, Let's let's ask what do you?
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  Speaker 2: What do you? What are you? What are you drinking today?
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  Speaker 3: I'm drinking just some plain old sparkling water.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, in a bag of candy crains mm hmmm, underrated.
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  Speaker 2: I am being different. I'm not having an alcoholic beverage today. Still,
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  Speaker 2: I'm having a Coke zero. Mm hmmm. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: why I got back from Europe. I've been craving just
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  Speaker 2: you got back from all about my troubles travels zero.
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  Speaker 2: It's not sorry, it's not a coke zero. It's a
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  Speaker 2: cog zero. It's not lim gov Oh god, no does
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  Speaker 2: she look No? Sorry, that's an old video. No one's
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  Speaker 2: gonna get this is part two. We just get right
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  Speaker 2: into it. So I was I and I gotta again
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  Speaker 2: thank you podcast like the one we did last week,
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  Speaker 2: is like reasons why I love doing this, Yes, I had.
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  Speaker 2: I'm I'm not gonna sit here and act like I'm
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  Speaker 2: like a super crazy, proficient tactical sharpshooter like editor for audio.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to act like that. I've had some
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  Speaker 2: issues with audio, and I'm not afraid. I'm gonna say's
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  Speaker 2: because of my own confidence in myself, not on my
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  Speaker 2: own part, partly on speaker, which I have talked him about.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't heard anything bad about this week's episode or
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  Speaker 2: the week prior, so I'm hoping some of the issues
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  Speaker 2: I had addressed with them have been handled. Just in
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  Speaker 2: regards to audio. Point being, I can there are people
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  Speaker 2: who don't listen to their stuff. You should listen to
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  Speaker 2: your stuff. It's how you get better because you hear things.
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  Speaker 2: Like I know for a fact, I interrupt everyone a lot.
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  Speaker 2: I still do, but not as bad. I tried to
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  Speaker 2: do that. I try to stop doing that. That's my
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  Speaker 2: very bad one. I like to click. I don't know why,
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  Speaker 2: the point being I can usually get through, like once
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  Speaker 2: I listen to the entire episode. You know, we usually
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  Speaker 2: go for like what most hour and a half. I
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  Speaker 2: think you and I did forty five fifty minutes. It
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  Speaker 2: took me almost two hours.
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  Speaker 3: Damn.
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  Speaker 2: I could not stop laughing my ass off.
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  Speaker 3: Episode.
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  Speaker 2: It was a great No, it was good, but like
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  Speaker 2: it's just it's because like I just had to keep
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  Speaker 2: like going back again I had to do. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: do a lot of audio fixing. I just had to
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  Speaker 2: like just chop some like you know, little beats and
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  Speaker 2: like little breast up. Like I just couldn't stop laughing
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  Speaker 2: my ass off because like I can't tell you what
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  Speaker 2: time it was, Like, oh, hey, let's said I did
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  Speaker 2: the whole Uh, let's stop doing the mount rushmore stuff
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  Speaker 2: and let's do what this other Chicago guy said. The
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  Speaker 2: Six Grandfathers that's what used to be called that mountain.
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  Speaker 2: And then like you and I said like one or
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  Speaker 2: two things, and then we just went completely off the
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  Speaker 2: fucking rails and never even touched that again. It's, oh god,
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  Speaker 2: you're so damn right, and hear me get diagnosed that yet.
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  Speaker 2: But no, what I'm trying to make is like it's
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  Speaker 2: just ship like that that just makes this shit fun.
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  Speaker 2: So we so last week we kind of discussed clickity clacks,
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  Speaker 2: very happy feelings of one Kathleen Kennedy leaving.
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  Speaker 3: I would say, I would say.
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  Speaker 2: It was the end of the Return of the Jedi
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  Speaker 2: for you. That's literally what it was. I'm very you're
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  Speaker 2: literally on endoor doing drums on stormtroopers helmets.
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  Speaker 3: I'm very uh ambitious, what's the word interested?
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  Speaker 2: Not really interested, But you're more intrigued.
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  Speaker 3: I'm more very intrigued.
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  Speaker 2: No, you're optimistic. You're optimistic about the future of Lucasfilm. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: I've said for a long time, why do you think
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  Speaker 2: there need to be changed? I wasn't as against her
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  Speaker 2: leadership as a lot of people were. I but I said,
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  Speaker 2: you need to be held accountable. And there were for
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  Speaker 2: as many great things as there was there were three
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  Speaker 2: or four not so good things that happened. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: have any issues of any of the movies that came out,
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  Speaker 2: Obviously I had my opinions on them. I am anyte
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  Speaker 2: of the shows that came out. I know people who
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  Speaker 2: can't stand book a bubblet. I understand that I like
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  Speaker 2: Book a bubbleffet. It's okay, and I'm not free to admit, acolyte.
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  Speaker 2: It took me a minute.
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  Speaker 3: It was a rough one.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even know if you finished it.
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  Speaker 3: I never watched it. I refuse to watch that show.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and then, and here's the thing, and we'll get
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  Speaker 2: right into it. Spoiler, Well, you know who shows up
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  Speaker 2: at the end, right, spoilers. Okay, we've talked about this, Yes,
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  Speaker 2: we talked about this. So they recently released a book.
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  Speaker 2: I believe it's one of those like and this is
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  Speaker 2: the thing. It's one of those things because of how
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  Speaker 2: pop people to say Star Wars is dead, Star Wars
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  Speaker 2: is but it's still so popular that one of a
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  Speaker 2: simple book. I'm not gonna say simple book because books
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  Speaker 2: these days are hard to actually like sell. Although I
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  Speaker 2: do think things like comic books and stuff are coming back,
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  Speaker 2: damn it. Adhcheprint.
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  Speaker 4: Whenever an art.
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  Speaker 2: Style Star Wars book comes out, it makes national headlines. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and in this book for the Acolyte, it pretty much
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  Speaker 2: confirmed they were going to do a and it's I
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  Speaker 2: love Mandalorian, but I hate like how like the the
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  Speaker 2: Disney plus things. It's just called the Mandovers, but they're
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  Speaker 2: essentially going to do a Mandover's style with the High
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  Speaker 2: Republic taking place around the Acolyte one hundred years before
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  Speaker 2: the Seat are the prequels, and Plagus was going to
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  Speaker 2: be the big battie, the throng, the fanals. That was
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  Speaker 2: what's That's literally what they said. The plan was. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not gonna lie to you. I'm indifferent because, for one,
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  Speaker 2: I definitely want to see the story of Plague is
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  Speaker 2: told on screen. Yes, I know there's books. No, I
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  Speaker 2: haven't read the books. I actually have been reading the
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  Speaker 2: Star Wars comics, which, my friend, you need to read those,
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  Speaker 2: you see.
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  Speaker 3: I've taken that.
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  Speaker 5: I've taken a very laid back approach with the comics
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  Speaker 5: because I stopped reading comics a while ago. It's simply
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  Speaker 5: a matter of time thing, and I know I need
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  Speaker 5: to get back into them, but there's so much other
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  Speaker 5: content I'm consuming, whether it's digital media, whether it's virtual media,
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  Speaker 5: you know, gaming, movies.
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  Speaker 2: There's too much.
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  Speaker 3: There's too much, and I feel like not saying that
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  Speaker 3: reading comic books.
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  Speaker 5: I mean to be honest, I'm sure it's more of
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  Speaker 5: a bad thing than I'm that I'm consuming all this
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  Speaker 5: meeting instead of slowing down and reading something. But I'm like,
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  Speaker 5: there's so much good digital and virtual media out there
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  Speaker 5: that I want to consume first before I feel like
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  Speaker 5: to me cog boo, reading has come to at this point,
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  Speaker 5: has has basically come down to, like when I retire,
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  Speaker 5: I'm gonna read everything.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of deal. That's fair, You're gonna read man.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, So it's it's very much like I want to
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  Speaker 5: do this thing, but I have so many other things
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  Speaker 5: that I'm prioritizing first before I do that.
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  Speaker 2: Well damn IDIOHD stuff like really quick before I want to.
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  Speaker 2: I do want to get back in the accolite stuff
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  Speaker 2: I I I started. I can't remember what was the
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  Speaker 2: first comic I like read for the like I usually
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  Speaker 2: excite my mind. Used to give me Spider Man comics
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  Speaker 2: when I was a kid, but it was only the issues,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like like the what thirty pages of that?
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  Speaker 2: But no, man, I want the book. I want the
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  Speaker 2: whole set, I want the series. I don't want this
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  Speaker 2: like I want the whole Ephic novel. And since I
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  Speaker 2: started getting them, I'm not saying them by I'm not
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  Speaker 2: saying like I have like all these comic books now.
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  Speaker 2: I think I literally have maybe like ten fifteen. But
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  Speaker 2: I think it's that funkal pop bug again, because when
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  Speaker 2: I go to a bookstore now, yeah, when I go
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  Speaker 2: to a bookstore now and I find one, let me
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  Speaker 2: say this a very popular uh comic book tre you
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  Speaker 2: have heard of? It's called Batman. You're one? Yes, Guess
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  Speaker 2: what did brand new copy costs on Amazon hardcover? Hundred bucks?
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  Speaker 3: I was want to say a hundred bucks.
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  Speaker 2: Guess what I found it for wrapped brand new at
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  Speaker 2: this used used bookstore I go to.
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  Speaker 6: They had that bitch on sale for eight dollars and
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  Speaker 6: that shit was mint And I have I always make
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  Speaker 6: the claim it's it's mostly true of Simpsons.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry ahead, I have roughly half of all Prayer comics
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  Speaker 3: ever made.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're all just.
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  Speaker 5: Sitting in a box and I read about eighty percent
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  Speaker 5: of them of my collection. Again, they're still they're still
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  Speaker 5: publishing new stories, but there's a bunch that I just
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  Speaker 5: don't have. And but anyways, my collection, like I said,
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  Speaker 5: out of all the ones I have, I've read maybe
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  Speaker 5: eighty percent, but they're still twenty.
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  Speaker 3: Percent that I haven't read.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'll and I just stopped.
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  Speaker 5: Whenever I go to comic cons now where they're still
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  Speaker 5: selling comic books and it's not just one giant, Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I know where it shocking shocking, uh where now wherever
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  Speaker 5: they're still selling comic books, Like I've just stopped, I think,
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  Speaker 5: and everything everyone else's stopped because we're so focused now
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  Speaker 5: on like the just watching the movies and watching the show, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: the digital media instead of reading, you know, going back
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  Speaker 5: to basics.
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  Speaker 3: I'm reading the novels well, and I.
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  Speaker 2: Just think, and I think the reason I'm saying comic
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  Speaker 2: books are coming back is like I think it's I
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  Speaker 2: think the reason is because I think there's so much
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  Speaker 2: media right now. People are just tired of it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and they want to be like, hey, I want to
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  Speaker 2: focus on one thing that I enjoy that has a
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  Speaker 2: continuous platform of something being of something coming out, which
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  Speaker 2: is comic books. I mean, like I said, like I
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  Speaker 2: just started. I first started, I started the small no.
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  Speaker 2: I started like just reading because like, Batman's my favorite superhero.
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  Speaker 2: I read, I got the first one I bought. When
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  Speaker 2: I centrally started, it was an absolute Batman because if
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  Speaker 2: anyone' that's literally the popular one right now. That's all that's,
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  Speaker 2: that's all I want to talk about, because it's just
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  Speaker 2: it's a new universe where all the superheroes are different backgrounds,
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  Speaker 2: but they're all fucking like eight feet tall and on
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  Speaker 2: fucking steroids and look like nineteen seventy seven professional wrestlers.
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  Speaker 2: It's insane and it's it's really and it's a good story.
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  Speaker 2: But then like I started going back to the acolyte
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  Speaker 2: thing here in a second, damn it, and I started
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  Speaker 2: reading the Star Wars ones, And this why I'm excited filone.
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  Speaker 2: He's taking note or is becoming creative off, well, he's
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  Speaker 2: creative out. He's been creative officer for a while, but
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  Speaker 2: now he's fully in charge. Is and this is where
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  Speaker 2: there's that disconnect between the shows. And I think it's
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  Speaker 2: where that disconnect and a lot of select goes to
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  Speaker 2: Kathleen mm hmm. Everyone remembers the there's not many scenes
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  Speaker 2: of Book of Bubba Fett people will talk about. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: there's a cab Bane, there's black Do I forget his name?
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  Speaker 2: Every time the giant Wookie Croissante.
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  Speaker 5: You talk from the books, Yeah, I really wanted to
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  Speaker 5: like him, and yes, but like yeah, but then they like,
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  Speaker 5: and then they I don't know, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: But the point I'm trying to make is there's all
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  Speaker 2: there's all these scenes like in Book of Bubba Fett,
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  Speaker 2: some that I remember and really enjoy, but a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people don't talk about him. But everyone members Bubba
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  Speaker 2: Fett and season two and Mandalorian where he made Mandal
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  Speaker 2: essentially look like a bitch and John wicked everybody, to
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  Speaker 2: which I was saying, where is this book of Bubba Fett?
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  Speaker 2: Or where's this book? Where's this bookfet? Where is this
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  Speaker 2: Bubba Fett? And that's what saying. All I want is consistent,
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  Speaker 2: like right, and like when I read the comic books,
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  Speaker 2: I'm only on like I'm only on my third. I
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  Speaker 2: forgot what the so the first one was, uh, it's
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  Speaker 2: called it's a it's a comic book. Only character's I forget.
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  Speaker 2: I forget her name, Doctor Alpha like a lot of
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  Speaker 2: from I read a lot of people like her, but
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  Speaker 2: I found this Bounty Hunter one which is apparently really popular.
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  Speaker 2: It's got bubble fed and it talked about his stories.
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  Speaker 2: But thankfully, as most comic books are not doing because
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  Speaker 2: I know people don't like sometimes check it tells you, hey,
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  Speaker 2: you need to read this before you read this, and
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  Speaker 2: thankfully said, hey, you need to read Darth Vader before
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  Speaker 2: you read this. And I only gotten through the first
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  Speaker 2: two well, I got the first volume, if you call it.
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  Speaker 2: I really went through the first two issues, and literally
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  Speaker 2: it just shows you, like how much respect Vader had
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  Speaker 2: for fet and vice versa. But FVET even knew, like, fuck,
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  Speaker 2: this guy can fuck me up, Like that's why everyone
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  Speaker 2: loved Vader. Yeah, because Vader really doesn't do a lot
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  Speaker 2: of the movies, but he's so menacing it's like, don't
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  Speaker 2: funk with this dude. With the point trying to make
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  Speaker 2: is what the accolade is with Plaguas, like you could
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  Speaker 2: go down that, you could, you could do that. The
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  Speaker 2: problem is is just there's no consistency amongst the shows.
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  Speaker 2: That's my in terms of like I'm not gonna say
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  Speaker 2: like story because obviously it's just Star Wars, but in
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  Speaker 2: terms of like pacing and not that everything needs to
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  Speaker 2: be the same. But like Marvel, majority of Marvel stuff
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  Speaker 2: is all the same. Obviously, if you know the directors
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  Speaker 2: and the actors, you could see where they put their
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  Speaker 2: little touches. But essentially, what is it. It's a Kevin
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  Speaker 2: Feigy production. That's what's Star Wars. I'm not saying stories
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  Speaker 2: they become Marvel because obviously right now, as used that
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  Speaker 2: an ilute to last week, we really haven't been in
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  Speaker 2: touch with the MCU in the last couple of years.
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  Speaker 2: Most people have not. But they need to just make
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  Speaker 2: it consistent where it's It's essentially if I watch a
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  Speaker 2: TV show, okay for example, okay click any click. If
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  Speaker 2: I watch let's say this is the first time I'm
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  Speaker 2: watching Obi Wan, and I watch that epic battle at
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  Speaker 2: the end of this of the show where he fights
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  Speaker 2: Vader spoiler shockering. I know he fought Obi Wan fights Vader,
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  Speaker 2: shocking shucker that battle that happened there. The next time
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  Speaker 2: I see a Jedi two Jedis, go at it. They
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  Speaker 2: are that powerful. That fight needs to be like on
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  Speaker 2: that par not say it needs to be as good,
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  Speaker 2: but it's like, okay, when if what we want throwing
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  Speaker 2: fucking like a mountain sized rocks at this dude. It
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  Speaker 2: needs to be like, Okay, these two are too fucking strong,
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  Speaker 2: they're equally equal. Match is kind of going a little
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  Speaker 2: out there, but like it needs to be that even keel.
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  Speaker 2: And then when you watch Acolyte, it was just like
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  Speaker 2: something like I thought that the choreography, the fight scenes
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  Speaker 2: were fantastic, but then there's someone just like, how is
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  Speaker 2: not how was I forget? And again I forget the
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  Speaker 2: bad guy's name. How is he not just fucking he
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  Speaker 2: was wrecking dudes? He was, but I'm like, how is
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  Speaker 2: he not just like killing them instantly? And I think
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  Speaker 2: at some points that way maybe he's just toying with
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  Speaker 2: them and shit like that. But then it just shows
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  Speaker 2: you again I'm my problem with like the original prequel
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  Speaker 2: stuff in the High Republic. It just makes them look
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  Speaker 2: so Stupid's like they're like so like there's no sith
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  Speaker 2: the Seven did from Millennium, Like, okay, can fist of
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  Speaker 2: how the fuck did that work out for you?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: It to to me.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, I feel like the new stuff, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: and this has been a problem forever.
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  Speaker 5: Right, when you have a franchise that's so old and
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  Speaker 5: you try and make new content and you have to
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  Speaker 5: follow the Holy Bible that is the lore, it's so
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  Speaker 5: hard to introduce new characters and make them look cool
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  Speaker 5: without making the old stuff look weak or like either super.
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  Speaker 3: Weak or super powered. Does that make sense?
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  Speaker 2: Yes?
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  Speaker 5: And typically and typically it ends up that the old
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  Speaker 5: stuff looks dumb and dumb and weak. So it's it's
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  Speaker 5: really hard to like, oh, let's introduce this new stuff
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  Speaker 5: but make it seem cool. But how do we do
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  Speaker 5: it in a way that doesn't contradict everything that we've
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  Speaker 5: already And.
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  Speaker 2: The problem is, and the problem is is like Marvel's
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  Speaker 2: willing to take those risks, and a lot of times
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  Speaker 2: it's playing, it's played out, it's working.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, look what they did with the Loki Show.
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  Speaker 2: They were like, that was the dumbest idea and that's
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  Speaker 2: probably the best. That's one of the best things they
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  Speaker 2: ever made.
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: And I and I was sad, but like you had
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: to think, like, yes, there's always gonna be something more
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: powerful than the thing, the thing.
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: That came last. Yes, with Infinity Stone, did they like
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: basically did they basically.
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: Say that like the whole arc of the Infinity War
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: was pointless because you can go to the TVA and
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: find those rocks.
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: Yes, but like there's a lot of other stories that
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: do that ship to their thing.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: But like a good point, but like.
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: There's there's always you have to understand, there's always a
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: bigger fish. And I think that's what people forget, and
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: like we're so attached to these stories. We're so attached
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: to these stories to the point where like if anything
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: contradicts or anything belittles.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: What we know and love we get, we go on
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: the defensive immediately, We immediately go, now, how could you
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: do that to my beloved character.
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: It's like Bro's he's just a guy, and this giant
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: universe and this giant gallon see let alone universe of
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: a story. And I think, and I feel like people
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: aren't willing to detach from that, from that feeling of
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: like yeah, and I'm that feeling of like they're mine,
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: they're there, I am this, I am this character, and
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: it's like, yes, you can identify this character, but like
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: just like this character like they're human or whatever.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: Like every character has faults, every character has.
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: Weaknesses, Like they're not like, yes, as much as we
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: want to think Anakin and Luke as like the chosen one, yes,
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: they're the chosen one of this story. But that doesn't
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: mean that there's other stories that can outpace them, or
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: outpower them, or outpower scale them.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: Does that make sense?
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Yes? And I think and that's the problem I think
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: with Star Wars. And I'm not saying just the fans
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: and jonasane els just a story is shit. We don't
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: know this is gonna work, break glass and bring out
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: one of the original characters. Yeah, it's okay, this is
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: there is literally a reason the first thing you see
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: whenever Star Wars comes up is in a galaxy far
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: far away. I don't know if you know this. Galaxies
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: are pretty fucking huge. I mean, do we need to
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: mention how fucking complicated insane it was for them to
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: get to throw on an Ezra and Ahsoka. You know,
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: we gott we get the fucking whales here, We gotta
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: do this. It's just it's it's it's and that's the
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: thing I think Star Wars is. And rightfully so, I
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: want to I want to make this clear. Not rightfully so,
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: but sometimes in some instances it's okay to have hesitation.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: They're too afraid to expand, to go into the deeper universe,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: to go beyond, essentially because it's you don't okay if
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: it doesn't work. If it doesn't work, we're fucked. We're
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: gonna spend this money. But here's the thing. It's like,
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: unfortunately some of the things you have made within the
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: existing stuff, critically and mostly people are saying it hasn't worked.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: So it's like, what what do you have to lose? See,
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: that's what's saying. That's why it if like we talked
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: about last week, was Starfighter. Originally it was, well, there
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: might be some sequel characters or legacy characters in here. Oh,
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: there might be lightsabers. You know, it's a Starfighter movie.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Make that makes sense. But then now they're saying, Nope,
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: no legacy or anything like that.
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: Okay, great, Like who I want that?
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: I believe? Yes?
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Like dead? Sorry, like dead. I was happy. The only
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: MCU thing that was brought into that movie was the TVA.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: That's it. Otherwise it was a Fox. It was a
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Fox reunion party, that's all it was. And it worked.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: You don't need and like it worked and I'm not
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: could be and be honest. It worked in the day
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: and age where a lot of people have not actually
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: watched the Fox movies because some people ship and I'm
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: not gonna say rightfully so all due respect rightfully so
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: that some people, like some kids and like like teenagers
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: were like, yeah, I don't know, my dad said this
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: movie sucked. I kid, so we didn't watch it. But like,
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: because because again, here's the thing for you and I
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: it's hilarious and crazy for people to react to spoiler alert,
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Chris Evans obviously doing a Captain of America impersonation, but
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: he's just human torch and then people are like, wait,
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: why is he on fire? It's like, well, here's you
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: got to.
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: Do actually before Captain America according to my calculations. But
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: what I'm trying to make is you can take those
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: risks and it can work.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: It can pan out. And that's why I'm excited because Okay,
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: and here's the thing, this is this is one they
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: want to talk about, like moving forward, where are they
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: going because like I said, like with that light being
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: canceled and they're not and again, are they gonna do
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: anything more higher Republic? I don't know. I do think
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: there is a story to tell a plagist, because that's
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: the thing, doesn't everyone. I mean, it's a fucking literally
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: like dark plagis the whis is a global meme. You
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: just see the it's always three photos. It's it's Palpatine
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: looking at the show, then Palpatine looking at Anakin, and
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: then Anakin looking at him saying is a possible in
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: his power? And there's no work context, and obviously people
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: put their own fucking work context there. But everyone knows
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: that fucking sentence. Every fucking person knows it. You know,
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: if I just said we just go have you the
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: hood right away, people go, like, everyone fucking knows that.
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: There is It's it's it's literally like I think one
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: of the most quoted. I mean, I mean, obviously there's
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: more code lines, but.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Like it's in the top ten for Star Wars top ten, like.
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: No kind of speeches kind of like mini speeches like dialogues.
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: It's the most ten tough Budday like pieces of dialogues quoted.
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: Like if you are a Star Wars fan, like you
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: even have to be a deep Star Wars fan, like
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: if you enjoy the series and follow the series, you
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: know the speech of dark playing.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Is the ways Like it's just my lovely wife who's
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: learning loud of the lore. Since we started dating, she's
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: known Nat and she didn't watch all the movies and
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: she's known. That's praise because she hates Palpatin. I'm like,
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: who doesn't. But then it's like, now that they're moving forward,
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: it's like, Okay, that's why I'm excited because it's like,
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: now there's gonna be That's why I'm hoping with Filoni
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: m m is. I'm not I'm not saying I wanted
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: to take a step back. I'm just saying you need
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: to have you need to take risk. Every it's like this,
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: everyone is saying you can't do live action for ship.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: That's what the that's what the general consens is.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: He's gonna no.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think that's the truth because it's like
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: you watch the like, okay, you watched that first thing
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: he did. It was the Ahsoka episode of Mandalorian. I
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: thought it was very good, like with like the shots
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: and like the obviously it's not just felony doing it,
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: but like with the smoking, like it was very good.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Oh sooka like yeah, headed Sipper, he didn't drink all
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: that ship. The point I'm trying to make is like
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: you you start sorry from the bottom. Now you're here.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: You you as you continue, as you continue a new
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: uh not trend, a new skill. The more you do it,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: the better you get. Like podcasting I to do like
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: I still do that, but not as much as I
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: used to. Same with audio, Same with you and anything
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: that you try like or not not sorry not not try?
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Do you do or do not? How dare me? How
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: dare I say? That? Point T make is like you
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: just gotta let him he needs you. Gotta let him fail, Yetta,
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: let him try to yea, let him go out there
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: and he had their succeeds or fails. The point I
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: make is like, just I just want them to do it.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: I am in the mindset whork with like again because
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: and there's I want to get to the other thing,
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: which I know you're not gonna know about here a second.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: With the Disney announcement, it just seems like that's why
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: I'm excited. It's like he's not just running Lucasfilm by himself.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: He's just essentially it seems like everyone's it seems like
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: everyone's just saying it's called the DC model, which I
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: honestly don't know anyone who's doing it beforehand. If they was,
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: I apologize. I know. I know Warner Brothers was kind
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: of doing something like that, but it wasn't like concrete
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: like everyone's in the DC where it's like James Gunn
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: runs Creative as the co head of studio, and then
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Peter Saffern I think is his name. He does all
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: the business shit. That's what Lucasfilm does. That's what they're doing.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Now just let them do that and here's the here's
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: the thing.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: So let them do their thing.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: Like we're not gonna know any of this ship for
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: at least two years.
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: This is I've told this is something that I can
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: really relate to with my well okay, now, how'm gonna
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: say this? This is something that I've had. I told
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: my dad a few years ago as I was getting older,
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: up into like my mid twenties, he was still trying
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: to very much like trying to teach me lessons without
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: like having them having me learn them from myself. And
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: it was something and like I understand, as as a father,
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: you want you want to try and save your kid's pain,
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: you know, pain, like as much pain as they can, right,
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: Like you, you don't want it to go You don't
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: want them to go through the same pain that you
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: went through to try, you know, even if it's good
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: for them, and something I told my dad, it's like, listen,
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: sometimes there are just some lessons, no matter how painful
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: they are, the best way for some people to learn
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: them is to is to go through it and experience
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: the pain.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Because the.
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: The best way to learn the lesson is not the
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: best way, but sometimes the best way is to fail
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: is to go through the pain. Is to experience experience
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: that pain because it sticks with you.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: It sticks with you.
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: Once you feel that pain, it will stick with you,
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: and then you will you will fucking learn your lesson
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: and you will repeat and you.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: Will know not to do it again.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: You're gonna work twice as hard to make sure it
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: doesn't happen.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: Boy, exactly exactly.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: I'd rather read Chicken sell the chicken shit.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: So it's like, like, as much as we want to
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: avoid said pain of of Dave Filoni maybe not being
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: a great director, we have to at least let him
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: try try because maybe he might fail, and maybe he'll
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: learn and make better shows, right, or maybe he'll just
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: be good, but we don't know until we let him try.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Here here's the one thing. Okay, there's obviously a lot
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: of like I said, when the whole Kathleens came out,
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: there all these videos of like you know, the classic
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: one of like her talk with George, like we're gonna
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: on the legacy in the stories. And there's that quick
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: clip where there's no books or kind of likes, which
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: is not true. But also that foot is take a
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: little bit out of context. I make that not fully.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say the entire foot just take out
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: of context. It's sort of taken out of context when
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: you actually watch the whole clip, although at the end
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: you're gonna go, uh no. But here's the thing. There,
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: there are a giant consensus at Star Wars. It's here's
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: the thing star Wars at I'm not gonna say star Wars.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: I mean through the Star Wars, star Wars are star Wars.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: We know the basics. There's Jedis, there's a bad stiff.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: There's always there's always a someone trying to take over
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: the fucking Republican government to rule it. It's either good
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: or bad. Yay. And there's all these plants, all these
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: different creatures that can kill you or we'll want to
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: have a drink with you. Whatever. Cool, that's it.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: There's which you want to suck out your power.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: Allegedly, they literally took They literally gave the guy that
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: essentially for the last well not gonna say the last
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: twenty years, but for at least ten what ten to
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: fifteen years, almost was George Lucas's right hand man, literally
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: his padawan. Literally, we're going we're going from Palpatine to Vader.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: We just had someone in between them. First, We're going
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: from uh Kui Gon to Kenobe. We just had someone
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: to be again. You just got to give it time.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: And then what I was gonna allude to with a
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: two person that's what I'm excited for. So Disney yesterday
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: announced essentially Bob Iger's leaving Disney. This has been known
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: for years. He left in twenty twenty, He left in
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty, came back in twenty twenty two twenty three
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: when Bob shapek was essentially unanimously removed from office because
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: they were not happy with what he was doing, and
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: I heer's been essentially as some people By the way,
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: if you lead it out of the articles Iger's been
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: doing the last couple of weeks, it's like, wow, tell
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: me you did not like the decision you made, because
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: he's the one who picked the original replacement. What they're doing,
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: they're doing exactly what what Luca I mean, Lucas is
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: obviously on our Disney. They're doing Lucas doing. They're doing this,
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: the DC is doing. They have two people CenTra writing
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: the ship, the guy who did their Parks and Experience
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: will be CEO. And then they literally created eight This
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: is what's funny. You think like they create, like they
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: don't have that as a job already. No, they literally
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: create a job called President and Chief Creative Officer. Her
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: name is Dana Walden. I'm gonnaell you right now because
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: I get do the.
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: Whole like, well, how do they what's their Disney history.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: It's a good move, it's a good vie. Yeah, you're
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: going to that. You're gonna let them create. And here's
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: the thing, No, disrespected. I don't know. I don't know
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: Josh's history with Like Entertainment, but it's like you shouldn't
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: let a guy who primarily has been involved with like
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: the entertainment experiences of like parks, cruises and just other
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: stuff be involved with, like movies and stuff like that
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: that it can't be. But it's like, yeah, take a
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: person like Dana Walden who's been multiple productions that have
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: won oscars, TV shows, like, oh yeah, let her do that.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Let her run the let her run the media, and
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: he'll run everything else.
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: Let the producers produce, let the creams create, let the
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: executives execute.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: It like and and here's and here's the basic. Sorry,
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: just get in my head. This is the biggest thing
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: of all.
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: And I don't talk politics on the show. I'm gonna
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: say this right now.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Have we learned nothing I'm gonna say about this current
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Have we learned nothing the last twenty five fucking years
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: that not one person can run this fucking ship.
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you need need more than one person.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: Everyone wants to be especially with that one Exactly, It's
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: just not everyone.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: Everyone just wants to whip it out. I'm sorry, it's
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: not as big as you think. The point I'm trying
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: to make is this is smart as well, because again,
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: all these companies, Warner Brothers with d C, help Warner
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Brothers themselves, universal Lucasfilm Disney. You need to have multiple
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: people run the ship, and that's okay because it can work.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: Perfect example, Okay, do you want to why five years
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: ago Warner Brothers was considered a laughing sock of entertainment
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: and now they're about to sell the Netflix for what
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: it's like, what almost one hundred billion dollars? Because yeah,
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: people can make people. I mean, Jesus Christ, I covered
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: it on the show. I literally said, the fucking Discovery
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: Channel bought Warner Brothers. But it's like, oh wait, no,
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Warner Brothers is not doing good, So it kind of
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: makes sense why they got not saying for cheap, but
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: why they got them for what they got them for?
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: What did they do? They got no, but what did
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: they do? They implemented two of their like most tenured
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonnay producers, like people involved with production and
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: like creative they had. They said, hey, we want you
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: two to stay, and we want you two to essentially
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: run the film division to make sure good ship comes out.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: And guess what happened Warner Brothers last year they had
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: one of their best years ever. And here's the thing.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of movies I can name, and people
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: will go, wait, that was Warner Brothers. Yeah, that was
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Warner Brothers.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: I guess what.
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: They made a lot of fucking.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: Money, ah, fucking money.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: But again, if they can do it with franchises that
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: people like Conjuring and like obviously everyone knows Conjuring, but
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: if they do it like other movies that people really
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: don't know, you're telling me we can't do that with DC,
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: which they're they kind of already have done. We can't.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: I mean again, they just started. We can't do it
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: with Star Wars. It's like, you can do it, you
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: just again and again. Here's the thing. As much as
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: much as you and I are Star Wars fans and
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Star Wars fans on again, we're crazy. And shit, why
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: is it that, Like there's literally the phrase patience is
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: the way of the Jedi, and none of us fucking
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: follow that because it's because we've been.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: Let Yeah, it's because it's that's from a galaxy far far.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Away, and we can't even begin to match, not in
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: this galaxy. No, we weren't patient twenty years ago. And like,
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: going back to what you allude to about the comic
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: books and streaming and media, Shit, we got. I mean,
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: here's the problem, Like it's going to Vengers Doomsday pretty
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: much seems like by by fucking the end of next month,
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: the whole movie is gonna be spoiled at this point.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm really sad how how much they've spoiled it.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: I think I think could all a lot of the bullshit. Yes,
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: but it's like with the track record of some of
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: these Splorers have been the last couple of years, it's
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: like I mean to say it. I like to say
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: I enjoyed No Way Home as if I didn't know
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: anything like everyone. I mean, I knew that Guardfield and Maguire,
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: and here's saying I saw that. I saw the leagues
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: two years prior. But again, it didn't take a rocket
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: science to go Jesus.
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: Hmm, all the bad guys.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: From the other Spider Man movies not to gonna be
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: in I wonder if Maguire and Garfield will be in it.
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: Hmm, No they won't.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: That would be fuck gain stupid one point nine billion
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: dollars later. But what I'm trying to make is like
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: we gotta be patient, And what I wanted to get
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: to is to be positive and a little you know,
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: looking looking forward to the future.
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: I want to talk about something again.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: We lose some of the good things that we personally
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: think they did, like and or Solo. We obviously have
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: different we have difference of opinions on the sequels, but
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: over all, I think I can speak for well, let's
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: just say that we like them. They obviously have their flaws.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: They fly now, they obviously have their flaws.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: I yeah, I think I think again we we we've
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: beat this to death.
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: Kathleen, God bless her was really trying to pump out
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: these movies. I think their biggest failing. I think I
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: think if they had even at the very least like
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: I don't care if they had different directors, I don't care.
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: I just wanted a concise story and we didn't get that.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: That's the problem.
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: They never, they never.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: That's again, it's one of those photos. Then I think,
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: in like thirty years from now, and I hate to
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: see people are gonna go because I enjoyed it. I
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: think you said it last week, you don't think the
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: sequels are gonna be held as in high regard.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: As to the prequels.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: I disagreed with you last week, however, because of the
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: way we live in today. I think you're I think
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: they're I'm gonna enjoy them in thirty years, but I think.
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: I'll joy the Force awakens and I'll bashfully and I'll bashfully.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: Am I guilty?
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: You're right, I don't guilty, but they won't be, but
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: it will be.
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: Like the sequels aren't bad.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: But they're not the prequels.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: They're not the prequels.
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: But like even like the Boomer Sowers fans are like,
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: god damn, the Prequels look like a fuck cinematic masterpiece
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: compared to the fucking sequels.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: It's funny how much I now hear like people away
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: than you and I going, oh, yeah, like all those
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: movies were good, and I'm like, you're the reason. You're
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: the reasons why have these people have trauma over.
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: The fucking being actors in the goddamn Star Wars movies?
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: And you know, literally you don't even have a fucking Twitter.
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: How are you fucking turning around?
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: All of a sudden, they literally drove half the people
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: to almost kill themselves, and that almost best fucking the
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: guy who allegedly the guy who played Anakin baby Anakin.
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: Like half these people want to kill themselves actor. All
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: these people are like legend. Sorry, after all these.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: People like they had mental health shit, they had mental
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: health issues.
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: But like it didn't help.
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: It didn't help that like all these fans, all the
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: booer fans, were like your dog shit. It's like, dude,
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: you're the reason why we were in this place in
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: the first part. This is why Lucas quit because of you.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Okay, example hating Christensen and it can then is older
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: and Okay, after Star Wars he couldn't get much work
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: because he got work. He got worked during the Star
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Wars era, but not after right, because I think students
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: were afraid to touch, like well we're gonna get hate
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: and now what again, there's that video now like him
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: walking out at celebration and the crowd goes there and
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: he he can't, he can't hold it back, he can't
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: hold it, starts crying.
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: Like I wouldn't blame him, I'd be the same thing.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: But yeah, but I don't. I was trying to say,
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: is I kind of I've kind of come around, like, Okay,
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: I have to agree with you. I don't think they'll
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: be in hell this high regard as the the prequels.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: I do think they'll be a little more because, like
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: I said, it's one of those scenes where I personally
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: think a lot of the shows Filoni has made, like
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: the animated shows, I feel like it's act and it's
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: not a knock on the prequels by themselves. I enjoy
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: them if I think, like was like Clone Wars, Rebels
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: help Bad Match Ahsoka, They've essentially they've elevated those movies
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: because now you know a lot more of the backs,
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: which always helps with anything, you know.
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: Like any like the but like it it feels like
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: I'll speak, I'll speak, and I'll speak on the side
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: of the objectors. It didn't feel like that for the prequels.
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: Did the Clone Wars helped flesh out flesh out like
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: the small details we were asking for, Yes, but we
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: didn't need a million comic books.
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: We didn't need like.
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: Four video games thirty video games to understand what the
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: fuck was going on the sequels. The Clone Wars was
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: just like, oh, here here's the here's the lored that
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: fills in the gap between these two movies that like
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: you guys really wanted to see, Like you didn't really
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: need it, but like it really helps flesh out out
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: the time skip between these two movies, whereas like the
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: sequels was just like, what the fuck is going on
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: in these movies? We know nothing about any of these characters.
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: You have not set up any of the lore. There's
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: no world building, and all the world building that you
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: do in the movies is so like gunshot that it's.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: Like whohaha, who who whoa what's going on?
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: So where the where the prequels, it's more like here's
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: a little here's a little bit more to make it
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: even better, to make this, make an already good thing
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: even better.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: Does that make sense?
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: And like, excuse me? The point, the point I'm trying
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: to make it too, is like people are in toided opinion.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: People are in time to also have their opinions change. Yeah,
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: like I said last week, like I said that the
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: one thing, and I'm like and I literally had the
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: more thing. But I'm like, yeah, you know, Colokie click
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: is right. I'm not saying like they're gonna be hated
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: like as much as they are now, but yeah, but
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: like they're not gonna be like they're not gonna be
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: like how the prequels are regarded now to when the
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: sequels will be in thirty years. It's not gonna happen
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: like that. Yeah, But moving on now, moving forward. And
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: here's the thing. I think the point I was trying
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: to make about like when they first started making like
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: the sequels, they didn't have They clearly didn't have like
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: an actual plan. There's this photo. I mean you probably
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: don't talk about or it's J J. Abrams and like
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: the cast are sitting in a circle and they're going
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: over the story of Forest Awakens. The thing is I
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: think Felony is too I'm not saying this is not
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: a knock. I think Folony will be not not even
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: because of what happened with the with the past regime.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: Flony is gonna be too focused on where are we
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: going next? Because if you watch any of the animated
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: shows he's done, Hell, if you watch even Ahsoka, you
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: could see those where it's like and this is where
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: I think he needs to scale back in terms of like, look,
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: we don't need this to be too inside baseball sometimes,
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: but you could spread it out because I think he's
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: always thinking about what's next. Because you could see a
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: lot of those Easter eggs with how Ahsoka ended, Hell
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: with how a lot of his shows and with how
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: a lot of his episodes ended with the animated stuff.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: And I think it's because that's what makes because he's
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: gonna have plans, he's gonna bring it, he's gonna have
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: and like I said, I I you the one thing,
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: and I'm appreciate that you brought no one.
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: And here's the thing.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: I can't find anything about this, which I'm a little
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: nervous about. But I can't find anything saying he's leaving.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: I can't find anything in what Favreau is doing because
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: he's doing he's doing or not sorry, he's doing the
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: Mandalorian and Grougo. I think we gotta change that title.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: That's my opinion. But like that movie comes out in May,
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: and the rumor is Favreau wants to do a season four,
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: which which okay, I'm for that if it's one in
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: season one and two where there's not there's not a
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: lot of people, there's too many heads and too many
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: cooks in the kitchen. Because I was a problem with
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: season three, which has been pretty much allegend confirmed or alleged.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: Let him do season four. But to my one, my
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: one covey of this, you need to justify to not
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: just me, but the audience. Why is it? Why do
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: I need to watch a movie to watch essentially a
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: trailer for a new a season of a new of
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: a TV show. Because that's gonna be the one issue
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: with that. But just let and that's my thing. I
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: think kind of like Figgy, Hey, here's what we want
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: to do. YadA, YadA, YadA. What can you offer? Oh? Okay, great,
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: here's the thing. Can you admit, as you and I
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: detail last week, the one of the blunders during Kathleen saying,
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: which from what all accounts actually wasn't mostly her fault
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: was the Solo production. Could you imagine a fully developed,
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: fully produced Ron Howard solo movie, consider what you consider.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: A Solo movie?
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: Just so run Howard Star Wars movie. I mean, he
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: took what I don't even I don't even know what Solo.
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: Was gonna before accounts it was nothing close to.
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: It, apparently supposedly, allegedly allegedly solo.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: I will watch.
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: I will if it's on, if it's on anywhere, I will.
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: I will drop whatever I'm watch. It's such a good
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: adventure movie. It's a heist movie, yes, but to me,
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: it's a good adventure movie. You're going on an adventure
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: following this character, is it?
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: Is it a little? Is it a little campy?
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: Yes, but in a good way, because Han Solo is campy.
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: His whole character is that he's he's a fucking like,
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: he's like a kind of a goofball like shithead character.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: So it works with him a bigger shit And I'm.
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: Like, there's so many opportunities to do that in the
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: Star Wars universe. You don't even have to do an
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: existing character, but there's so many existing characters that are
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: open to like doing that again. And I'm like, God,
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: there's so there's so much content that Star.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: Wars Mandalorian could not run and didn't walk because here's
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: the thing, what if? Because what do people love about
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: Star Wars? They love when you scale back and you expand.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: With Solo, that was I mean Rogue one, I mean
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: not no offense, the aim shows just taking the live
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: action productions into account. Solo was one of those first
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: in Rogue one Solo, Rogue one World, those first scenes
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: where you delve deep into the deepest pit of shit underground,
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: like you know, black market, bounty hunting, ship and people,
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: and then what happened and then Mando took it to
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: a whole other level. Yeah, Season three obviously expanded to it,
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: like like, oh, I guess now we're just gonna fucking
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: real but a planet. But and I like season three
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: but like it literally it gave it the blooprint of like,
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: you can do this underworld.
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: You can do you can do this.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: You can do this underworld, underground, regular human ship with
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: your Star Wars seeming and not have any Jedi, not
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: have this grand scale power stuff. Sure. Obviously season two
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: Mandalorian is one of my favorite hoars subb It's on
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: was ever But like, you don't need in the gap,
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: there's little, there's groove, doesn't it doesn't need to be vocal.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: It has to be the main focus. And like, and
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: that's why I'm saying, that's like why you can do that,
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: And that's why I think that's why I'm excited with Flowny,
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: because like he he doesn't have to do any of
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: the numbers of the business. He just has to create
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: and then he's got to meet with directors and just
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: be like our producers be like, hey, here's what we're doing,
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: here's what I want to do. What can you based
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: on your experience. You're like, oh, you've done like Ron Howard,
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: you've done You've done Apollo thirteen, You've done this, you've
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: done that. What can you what can you bring to
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: the table for this? Okay, great, let me meet with hypothetically,
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: let me let me meet with jj Abrams and see
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: what he would do with this.
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: Okay, I'm gonna go, Ron, how are you gonna meat
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: just ship like that?
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: And and you know what, there's and not halfway.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: Through production go or through pro preproduction go.
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: You know what.
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: I don't like what you're writing.
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: Fuck you.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: It's like we literally agreed on it because that was
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: the problem with or or hold on before you go sorry,
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: or before you even go, we're not doing it.
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: You announce it to the world.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: Here's the movie, here's who's writing, here's who's directing, here's
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: the plot. Oh uh, fuck you.
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: Don't say you guys actually production everyone excited just to
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: be like, no, we're.
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: Gonna do everything completely different.
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: It's like what you had it you you're doing it's gone.
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: Literally it's gone. It's like, god damn it, we were
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: right there. Okay, it's just it's just frustrating.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: I need to bring this up. Yeah, because I know
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: we're going to we're about the goals in ours, So
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna announce some things to you coming out. Okay,
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: let's go this may Actually I'm not before we get
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: to the movies, I'm gonna scale it back. I'm gonna
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: go to the things that clickie Clack and I are
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: very into. Okay, So this year we're gonna we're gonna
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: go to the games really quick. Okay.
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: This year, which this was surprise to me, we're getting
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: a Racing Star Wars Racing Hours, which I'm all for.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: You know, I am.
• 47:05
  Speaker 5: I am over the stars. I am a I've spent
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: probably eighty hours plus as a kid playing Episode one Racer.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: It was one of my favorite games.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: That ship was so fucking so good.
• 47:21
  Speaker 5: It's like, and if you play, if you go back
• 47:23
  Speaker 5: and play the original game, can you even recognize what's
• 47:27
  Speaker 5: going on the screen?
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: No?
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: But I know the routes. But I know the routes
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: by memory.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: One. Oh god, no, I'll never forget the first time
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: I played that game. I played it at Oh let's
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: see what was on the was on the PlayStation two
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: or PlayStation one, for sure, It's the place I played.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: It on the Nintenda sixty four.
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it wasn't that six. But dude, no, that ship.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: I remember when I played that ship and they then
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: they kind of did like they didn't do like a
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: like a rematch.
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: They did like a big head version.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: Of PlayStation one place, and it was okay, but I'm
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: going to play that ship like it was at my
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: dad's coworker's house, like his like his kid just got it.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: I don't know, like I whatever, but like I actually
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: remember like playing that like two and like the two
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: races and I'm like like yeah, like this ship's awesome,
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: and like yeah, and you can't you. I can't wait.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: I can't wait for when the game comes out. All
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: these streamers.
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: I've been waiting for this for thirty fucking years. Motherfucker.
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: You probably never played Racer in the fucking two thousand
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: and one.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: Kiss my kiss my ass. Like you know what they're
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: all gonna go, he's Potter Racing. No you're not, you're
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: a fake fan. No, but so you got that coming out,
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: which was that a surprise? Okay, now here's where it
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: gets a liffy. Yeah, So this is the one thing
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: I'm a Lucas. I'm a Lucas fan. I love LucasArts.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: I want LucasArts to come back. I want thousand percent.
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say this right now. I want thousand percent understand,
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: and I don't like where gaming's at today. That will
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: be next week's episode. We'll talk about I'll talk about
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: that next week. I don't like where gaming is today.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: I made that clear in our gaming roundtables.
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: We've we've talked, we've touched on gaming, We've touched this
• 49:04
  Speaker 5: to death to a point numerous lives understand.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: I understand why Lucasfilm was like, you know what, we
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: want to focus on other projects. We're going to outsource this.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: I get that one, especially because Star Wars is just
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: a hot name. I don't know your opinions. I love Outlaws,
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: especially all the updates.
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: I never played it because of everything that.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: I saw, I said, it's a lot better, and I
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: can tell you, like literally, okay, here's what.
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: They want to want to Wait wait, wait, let me
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: finish this one.
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: I feel like from what I saw, they wanted to
• 49:38
  Speaker 5: create and they wanted to jump on the success of.
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: Of Following Order.
• 49:48
  Speaker 5: And create a game in that similar art style and
• 49:51
  Speaker 5: play style, but instead of being a Jedi, just like
• 49:53
  Speaker 5: a random outlaw, and I just from what I've seen,
• 49:57
  Speaker 5: they seemed seemed rush And I was like, you know what,
• 50:03
  Speaker 5: as much as the story seems enticing, I just it's.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: Just I agree with you on the rush part. However,
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: obviously with all the bad questions that came out of it,
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: it's a lot better now. I will say, do not
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: buy it less. It's absolutely on sale. I got the
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty dollars edition for thirty bucks that
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: gives you an idea, and I enjoy it.
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: Here's my one knock on the game.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: There are some things I'm like, Okay, Like my biggest
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: knock on is when you go when you say with
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: a storm trip and you punch in the face, like, wait,
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: why would my hand not break?
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: That's my one knock on.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: So but okay, we have this is where gets a
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: little dicey with the video games. Okay, so we have
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: Galactic Racer coming out this year. Then we have Star
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: Wars Eclipse.
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: This was announced.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: Can you guys when this game was announced, we only
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: have a cinematic trailer. This was announced almost five years ago. Now,
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: games you just take about what, like movies twoed I mean,
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: some games say ten years, but like this usual, most
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: games take you like what, three to five years to make.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: All we have is a trailer from almost for essentially
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: four and a half years ago, four years because it's
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: a game of wards. Okay, the next Jedi game, I
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: don't know. All I know is they've they've done the
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: mo cap but hey, like at least at least they're
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: making it zero company. This one is supposed to come
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: out the end of this year. This is that X
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: Com style one, the one you and I kind of
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: front because I'm not really I'm not a strategy game
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: kind of guy.
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I I I'm looking forward to it, but it's
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: I'm going with a lot of caution.
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna wait to see.
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's one of those things. It's like very
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: cool cause of guys, But are we gonna fall through
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: with it? Or are we just gonna let it bomb?
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: All right? And then here's the other one. This was
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: announced the same night as the racing game, The Fail
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: of the Old Republic. It's supposed to be a whole
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: new thing. The director from the Mass Effect trilogy is involved,
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: which that's why I'm a little excited. Here's where I'm
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: a little worried. So almost five years ago, when Eclipse
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: was announced, do you know another game that was announced?
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: Tell nice of the Old Republic remake? Where the Yeah,
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: where is it?
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, I mean, what is it? There's
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: like three games in development.
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: Hell, so it's like, yeah, we appreciate you announcing all
• 52:31
  Speaker 5: these games and getting us excited, but actually make them,
• 52:35
  Speaker 5: actually finish them and give us a problem.
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: Things happen, Things take time.
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: M I don't watch the Game Awards anymore because here's
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: my biggest knock against it. You do these cinematic trailers
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: and either A the game never comes out or b
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: when the game finals come after again, game.
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: It's nothing near what I'm sorry it needs.
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, it needs to be gameplay trailer.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: That's what it needs to be. Okay.
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: Like, for example, when the God of War uh for the.
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: Uh not reboot revamped God of War was announced, the
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: first the first footage they showed was a game was
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: a was gameplay and literally you watched the crowd it
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: is literally like a stone cold like holy shit pop because.
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: The crowd thought, oh, we're getting a trailer.
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: It's like, no, this is a twenty minute demo, and
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: and pretty much exactly what was in a demo was
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: in the game that level, other than like one little
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: monologue thing at the very beginning is tweaked. Otherwise, everything
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: that you saw in the demo you do in the game.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: Nothing changed. And guess what that game single player No
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: Online has sold what millions of copies made probably hundreds
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: of millions of dollars. So you don't need to have
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: all this, Michael, and I get that's what the game
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: is that with. That's where the Michael transaction bullshit. But
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: the point trying to make.
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: Is we're capitalist. Hell that's I mean, well, the point
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: trying to make.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: Is Star Wars is so untapped as well, or there's
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: so much they can do with the video games, but
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: it's like they need to.
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: Okay, here's the thing.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry the games that come out to like what,
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: let's say, like what last ten years. I enjoy the
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: Jedi games, I enjoy Outlaws. There's a lot to do.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: Bell Front two is my favorite games of all time.
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, though, I should not be.
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: I should not be.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: It's gonna sound shitty. I shouldn't be playing a game
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: that came almost ten years ago. That should not be
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: your top game. That's people.
• 54:31
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yah, yeah, I see what. But you know what,
• 54:33
  Speaker 5: I've kind of I've kind of hit my saturation point
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: of games. I'm like, let me enjoy these games for
• 54:39
  Speaker 5: ten years. Let me I get I get overstimulated by
• 54:42
  Speaker 5: how many games there are. Oh yeah, it's like so, Mike,
• 54:45
  Speaker 5: I just want them to release, like like the Racer game, Like,
• 54:49
  Speaker 5: that's something we haven't had in a while. Fine, release that.
• 54:53
  Speaker 5: If you want to remake a game, If you want
• 54:55
  Speaker 5: to remake a game, fine do that. Remake Nights to Fights,
• 55:00
  Speaker 5: the Star Wars remakes. They've made it have been good,
• 55:02
  Speaker 5: but I'm saying, like, make a good one of it.
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 55:05
  Speaker 5: If you want to do something completely new, public like
• 55:09
  Speaker 5: no like Fall in Order. If you like, fine do that.
• 55:12
  Speaker 5: Give us a good game, but stop releasing. Stop releasing
• 55:16
  Speaker 5: twenty new games, stop announcing thirty, giving us fifteen and
• 55:21
  Speaker 5: maybe five maybe five are good. Like I just just
• 55:26
  Speaker 5: give us good content. Announce what, announce what's actually gonna
• 55:29
  Speaker 5: come out. Make sure it's good, and don't oversaturate the market.
• 55:33
  Speaker 5: That's all I'm asking but it's never gonna happen because
• 55:36
  Speaker 5: we're reading and.
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought that up because I was an
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: announced I was gonna go over the movies next, but
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: we're not gonna I'm not gonna go too different too
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: it because there's the thing. There's all these movies that
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: we talked about this, there's all these movies they announced
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: in twenty during COVID. We're like that that Kathleen Kennedy
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: meme photo where it's not even a meme, which is
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: a picture of first Tammy Tolley's production she announced where
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: half of them, half of them were made, and half
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: of the ones that were made were ridiculed. You can't
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: even go You can't even find Willow anymore unless you
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: find it on like a black not black market, but
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: like a website that you're not supposed to be watching
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: videos on.
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: Essentially, it's not even there. And Disney owns it.
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: Obviously. We have Mandalorian and Krogu this year, we have
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: Starfighter next year. Then there's other there's other these other
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: movies that are some have scripts turned in, some were
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: in production or pre production where there's way for more information.
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: Pointre Maker is next year is Star Wars Celebration and
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: it's Star Wars fiftieth birthday. What I'm trying to say
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: is you have about a year and a quarter to
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: plan out because here's the thing. I don't think there's
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: gonna be a lot of announcement because I think rightfully
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: so I think the main focus at Star Wars Celebration,
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: because this is where I think they're smart. They don't
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: do every year. They do it when they they usually
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: do it when they have stuff to announce or something big,
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Because you're just smart because
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: you don't want to you don't want to oversaturate the
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: crowd to a point. But like, the main focus is
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: gonna be the Star Wars for theth birthday. They're gonna
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: really they're gonna show the original New Hope cut, which
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: I'm all for that, but also it's like George Lucas,
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: George Lucas himself doesn't want that shown. So it's kind
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: of like, you know what I mean.
• 57:15
  Speaker 5: We're about to see human Java and it's gonna be
• 57:19
  Speaker 5: very human Java.
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: People are Okay, you're ready for this? The thing that
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: the thing Disney or not Disney. George trying to avoid
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: for years. There are kids who.
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: Are naive, by the way, who don't think hand shot first.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: They're gonna actually see the hon did shoot first. The
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: point I'm trying to make is I just hope, my one, hope,
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: my one, my new hope.
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: Rebellions are built on hope.
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: The only things that are announced are not in I'm
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: not gonna say pre production, they're about to go into production.
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: Because here's the thing, Starfighter, that movie gotta announced, and
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: it's like, oh, okay, cool, I mean, we'll see if
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: it gets made. It's like, oh, it's already being shot.
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: Like okay, listen, why.
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: Is it that that movie is getting shot right away?
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: But then like James Mangole's movies on the back burner.
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: Allegedly, you know what I mean, Like like, what, what's
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: what's the disconnect?
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: Like obviously people have scheduled some different jobs. I get that,
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: but it's like, what's the uh why is it? Like
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: this is happening now, but this was announced like two
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: years ago, But this was announced three years ago. We
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: haven't even said a day of when we're gonna start casting,
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Yeah, So, and I say
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: all I'm saying is next year, you just because here's
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: the thing. Next year, it's gonna essentially be other than
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: obviously Mandalorian Grogan will be the first thing under the
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: new regime. But you know, Kathleen's all because it was
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: she produced it. She was like, I said, you're not
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: gonna You're not gonna see anything without Kathleen's name for
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: at least two years, which makes sense because this shit
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: takes time to make people sorry, but like, you know,
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: there's anything wrong with that. Hopefully it's good. The first
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: two season Mandalorian had her name attached to it. He guys,
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: what they're pretty fucking good and or a show they
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: got named for all the enemies. It was pretty fucking
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: good and also very good produced by Kathleen. Kennedy point
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: trying to make is we gotta be patient because it's
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: gonna be two thories. But also it's like next year
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: though here's the thing. They cannot announce it unless they
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: know for sure it's gonna get paid. And I mean
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: like like like this because this is the thing, the
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: thing that's surprised everyone about the whole Sean Levy Starfighter movies,
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: Like when Ryan Goson came out and they announced it like,
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: oh yeah, we're shooting in like two months, and people
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: were like, because again with the Lucas it was lucasfilm joke.
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, no, you're not. You're fucking lying.
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: Okay, buddy, Okay.
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: The famous podcasters were like, we I think I like,
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: like I said, I think it's I hate to say
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: it's a joke. It's obviously jokes are obviously shooting stuff.
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: But it's like, I think at some point they're like,
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: I think they're the same, just to say it, but
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: they weren't because they actually shot the fucking movie. But like,
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: you need I hate to.
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: Say this, you need to hit a home run.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: Excuse me. Unless next year at the fiftieth, the whole
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: focus is just the birthday. If that's the case, fine,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: but then you can. But then you cannot announce anything,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: which here's the thing. You know they're not going to
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: They have to announce stuff because that's what you do.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: It entices your fan base, it keeps you intrigued, keeps
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: you interested, because here's the thing. It's just simply saying like, hey,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: we're gonna show the original the original movie here. That's
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: our that's our big attraction. That's no, that's not that
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: doesn't work. Like I mean, Roman, if I'm there, I'm
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: gonna sit my ass down. I'm gonna watch it. I've
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: seen it because my dad. My dad's cool and he
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: had some he had vhs and shit like that.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: But like, I've seen it, but like you need, you need.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: To just you got it. I'd hate to say you
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: got to hit a home run. It's I hate to
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: say with how with with with all This is the
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: things that Star Wars fans, the good, the ben and
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: the ugly have been asking for for the last what
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: five minum five years. It's like, okay, here, we got it.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: And it's not like I need. It's not like hey,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: I would say all these movies usually be good. It's like, okay,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: if you announced anything, it needs to not be here's
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: the thing. You can literally announce a jar Jar Banks
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: cooking show.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: It's just to be good.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: No no, no no no no no no no no no,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: it doesn't have to be good. Just tell me it's
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: going into production. I don't want announcements of like we're
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: making this in three I want it needs to be like, hey,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: we have announcements. Here, here's this announcement, like with the
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: Sean Levy. We have contracts, we have a director, we
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: have a producer, we have a start. Oh most importantly,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: we have a shoot date. Yeah, that's what it needs
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: to be. That last one that you could say, you
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: could not say who's directing. You're starting to go, okay,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: we're making this Jar Jar Binks cooking show. We start
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: shooting it and changing, great, cool, thank you. And if
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: sh like you think shit happens like the the Writer's
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: strike and the actors strike, was it two years ago?
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: I was crazy to say that fucked up a lot
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: of shit in Hollywood, which makes sense, that's something you
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: can't predict your control. But that wasn't the entire tenure
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: of the Disney with Star Wars the last fifty years. Yeah,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: so you just you gotta it needs to be like concrete,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: like again, just give us shoot dates. Doing you get
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: people like when it comes out? Just be like, shit,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: we are gonna be in production this fall, Like great, cool,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: thank you.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: Cool, that's what you wanted. Okay, that's gonna.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: That's gonna be. That's me new tag because every movie
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: fucking now is that's the new that's a new big
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: you know catchphrase slogan, it's only in theaters, that's it. No,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: Star Wars Lucasill needs to be in production this summer
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: like that's it. Yeah, I don't care if the movie
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: doesn't come out till twenty fucking fifty two. Just tell
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: me it's going to production.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: Please, please just put into production, because.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: Again, I want the land. I don't give a fucking
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: Lando as a fucking movie or a TV show or
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: a fucking thing on my phone. Just make the fucking
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: Lando thing obviously.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: Gambino has had some health issues, which is why some
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: stuff happened.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: But he turned into scripts. We have confirmed that he
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: turned into scripts.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: No, we have we have confirmed scripts for was it
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: Donald Glover. I believe James man Goold and Taut.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: I'm very cautious.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 4: Hey, I don't give it. I don't give a ship.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: If a fucking director from fucking team who's making a
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: Star Wars movie.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: Ship's at least moving forward. Just makes just make ship.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Look, you're more generous than I want more
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: Star Wars.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: All right, we're Star Wars. See what you want about
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: Taka's He's an Academy Award winning script screenwriter.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 4: Like the guy can write and he can make good
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 4: ship just.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 5: In his in his very specific genre, but like it
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 5: doesn't always lend to I think all types of media.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 5: Like if if you had told me Tayka did Skeleton Crew,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 5: I would buy it and I would.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: Say that that makes sense.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: That was a good show. Good job, Taika, good job.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: But then you have thor Ragnarok and.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: You're just like Love and Thunder?
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: Sorry, dare you rag Apiece and Thunder? I'm like, what
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: happened Tayker, what happened? We we did such a good job.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: We want to have a Ragnrock on this podcast.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: Did you ever hear about anything? I mean, I know
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: this is completely up. Did you ever know did we
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: ever find out why Love and Thunder was so weird?
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: No? And this is this is where I'm This is
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: why I'm cop I've never lost faith in Taika because
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: here's the thing. Not every director hits a home run.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: Scor says he has not made masterpieces continuously quit Tarantino
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: has that make master ty pretty much Tyke and Cramsworth
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: both pretty much said we got too comfortable and we
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: that's a That's essentially what they both have said, and
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: they like like again because I think, like I can't
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: really where I read it. Hamsworth like was doing a
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: movie thing and obviously like we're talking about like his
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: Avengers trail or his him being the Avengers movie and
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: he people said he was second. He gets to go
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: back to being the oulth or like the thought it's
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: like I'm here to kick ass, like I'm here to
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: be essentially, I'm here to be a dick because I'm
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: a god like like it's like, yes, that's what I want.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 4: This giant AUSSI ass dude who's Jack.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: Is an asshole because it's like you can't like no
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: one could fucking touch me. Mm hmm, Like that's what
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: we want. Okay, Yeah, he's got a soft syle because
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: he's got a kid. What that happens to every dad?
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: Great and TI can pretty much do the same thing.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: Like like I think essentially, girls supposed to be in
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: the New Avengers. What's that the girl his daughter is
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: supposed to be? She is in I mean it's not
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: a spoilers. There's a trailer. She is in the trailer
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: for like five seconds mm hmm.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 4: So, which is fine.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: Good. Here's the thing.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 5: We just want good content that's all we want from
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 5: these from producers, Marvel, Star Wars, everything, Godzillas. But that's
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 5: a whole other podcast. Gotzilla.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: We can about that an other day, and we should
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: because there's a lot of stuff coming out. There's a
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: lot of stuff.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: Did you see the Monarch trailer?
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not watching any spoilers.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: Well, have you not seen the trailer?
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 5: Because I never watched season one, and I was going
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 5: to watch season one because I thought it was gonna
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 5: be a one off. But now that there's season I
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 5: was waiting for it to complete it and then I
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 5: was gonna watch it. Never got around to it. But
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 5: now that they're releasing season two, I'm gonna wait to
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 5: for season two to all come out. That way, I
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 5: can do the one week trial of Apple TV, watching
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 5: all the Apple TV shows I want to do and
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 5: one week and then I'm just gonna not subscribe.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: To a fair enough Yeah.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: Here's what okay, and here's the thing we get on
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: this here is the perfect example with like Monarch going
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: because we'll tie it back into Disney or Star Wars. Okay,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: when Monarch was announced for Apple TV, the only positive
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: had going to that is like, well, it's on Apple
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: TV and they make good television shows. But it's like, okay,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: you're gonna make a television show which is as a
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: and here's the thing.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 4: All the things said, oh, Godzilla will.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: Be in it, and it's like, okay, it's gonna be
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: like the Godzilla movie from like ten years agore. He's
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: in there for like five minutes. Spoiler, he's not there
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: for five minutes.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 4: He's in it a lot, which is.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: Hilarious because it's like, Okay, Godzilla is owned by Toho,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: he's being essentially leased out by Warner Brothers, but now
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: Warner Brothers is leasing them out to Apple TV. You
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: get wrong going. It's like it's just like I'm just
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: we're gonna keep leasing this thing now the more and
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: more people. And it was a good show.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 4: It was a real because I remember, I'm not an
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 4: Apple TV guy.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: I'm not a subscriber. I'm not And then Shagzilla he's like, hey,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: I know you don't have Apple TV and I know
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: you're Godzilla guy. You need to watch this. And I'm like,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: he's like why, I'll watch the end of season, like
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: I'll figure out. He's like, no, like you need to
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: watch this like live and I'm glad I did because
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie. It's right and it's the thing,
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: the story, this is what stars can learn from it.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: You can do these shows where you have those random
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: like like legacy characters pop and like ooh, like fuck,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: I don't care. Here's the thing. If Starfighter is I
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: think it's a good movie. If Starfighter is a great movie,
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: and the only legacy character that pops into three po,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: fucking a cool. I'm not saying God's Will is three po,
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: but like you can do a show where it's like
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: it doesn't have to be that comp essentially, you don't
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: you don't need to know everything, but if you do
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: know stuff, it's like, hey, little extra bonus for you. Yeah,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: And like when Godzilla comes into the Monarch the show,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: it's like, oh fucking a, here's Godzilla.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: Yay.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: But like it's still a good show because the story,
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: while it's very complex, it they tell it in a
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: very simple way that even if you haven't seen the
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: last fucking five Godzilla legendary movies, you don't need to
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: know shit if someone because they do a whole explanition
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: here's what Monarch is. Ha ha, you know, like doing
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: every fucking movie because that's what's smart. It's like, yeah,
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: you know, someone probably isn't seen the Gods of from
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: ten years ago or like or because here's the thing
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: I guarante there people wouldn't se godzlivers Con and probably
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: didn't see in the movies prior to that. What are
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: they doing godzliverrus Con.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 4: Here's what monarch is great?
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: That took you off two fucking minutes. I remember that.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 4: That's why I think.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: That's why I think Fantastic For the recent one. I
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: think it's criminally errated. I love the movie, but you
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: know what I love about it? Even every every majority
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: of people know the Fantastic For. They know their backstory,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: all the movies that they've done. The last two attempts,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: they spend like an hour explain to you how they
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: got their powers. What does this movie do In the
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: first five minutes, they went out of ship, they got
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: their powers, they're superheroes. Go great, I don't need to
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: know anymore.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 5: It's like it's like, if you're coming to watch this movie,
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 5: you already know the promise of the characters, Like you've
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 5: read the comic books or you've seen them, you see.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 4: The trailer or you've seen the trailer, or you've seen
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 4: them another movie.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 5: Like there's so much already media out there that all
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 5: of these characters that like, who's coming to.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: These movies not knowing anything about these characters at this point,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: Like we've we've like whether it's Godzilla, whether it's Stars,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: whether it's Marvel, whether it's what Predator whatever, Like, if
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: you're coming to watch this movie, you already consumed, You've
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: had to have already consumed.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: You haven't have an idea of what you're getting into. Yeah, exactly,
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: Well here's the thing. There are gonna be here.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: Stop treating us like we're fucking idiots.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: The perfect MP's been saying in the last ten minutes
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: there are going to be a fuck ton and I
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: mean a fuck ton of people going to see doom
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: Zat's Christmas that have not seen a fucking theme of
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: Avengers other than maybe Spider Man or one thing and Avengers,
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: what endgame came out? What twenty nineteen? We're going on
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: in five years and they're gonna be people. There are
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: gonna people go why is Iron Man killing people? Like?
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: I guess what, I guarantee you they're gonna explain all
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: that in the first ten fucking minutes yep, and all
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: those questions canna be Livia, Which is what I'm trying
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: to say with Star Wars you need to because that's
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: the one coming about folone eight that I have a
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: little bit of aization. I'm not saying I'm not. I
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: think he's gonna do great. I really do, but it's like,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: you need to not make all your stuff too inside
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: baseball because I know people who don't like the Ahsoka show.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: I love the Ahsoka Show. I think it's great.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: Do you watch Clone Wars?
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: It's it is literally if you watch Clone Wars, it
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: is literally a golden goose tendancy on a silver player,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: like here's here's a golden egg for being a good fanboy.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 4: It's great.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: It's great if you don't know it, it's like okay,
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: because like Kaitlyn, she enjoyed it, but then she like
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: she didn't be like uh because it's not like it's
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: not like stuff think it's and or perfect example. You
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: literally hired a guy Gilroy, who has admittedly so said
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: he is not a gigantic Star Wars fan, but he
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: gets the premise and what does he do. He makes
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: two seasons of a show where it's like people can eat.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: People who don't know this will understand it right away.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 4: People who don't do know this are really good to
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 4: enjoy this and guess what.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: They were nominated for the highest award in all of television,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: not just not just the not just the Enemies, in
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: like every other fucking awards. It's because it's because it's good,
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: because a lot of because a lot of people don't know.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 4: Unfortunately, the general audience just know the entire lore of
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 4: Star Wars.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: They know the basics. Luke, I'm your father and there's
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: a death star.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 5: That's only I've said that, and we've we've killed this
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 5: death You do not have to be a Star Wars
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 5: fan to like and or you do not.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: You don't need to be a Star Wars fan to
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: watch Star Wars.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: And that's why I'm that's why I'm hoping they scale
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: back on some stuff and like.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I feel like that's such a that's such
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 5: a that's what holds back so many people on all
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 5: these kinds of contents. This is like they think that
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 5: you have to know fifty years worth of lord to
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 5: like watch this movie or else. It's just it's not
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 5: gonna click for you. It's like, no, you can watch
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 5: all this content with no idea, okay what and you
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 5: can ask questions, sure, but like they'll do love explaining
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 5: like or like even if you don't know, it's fun
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 5: going on the adventure when you don't know, because then
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 5: you want to discover.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: But I just exactly, and here's the thing.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: Even if you don't know either said like ask your
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: friend or your spouse, like you're saying, I don't like
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: talking to your movies, and like I've got because when
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: Kleys asked me like like hey, who is that, I'd
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: be like, oh, like just watch what it's like okay,
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: you know know, like hey, Charlie, don't be a dick.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 4: Like it's a lot of shit. They'll learn in five seconds,
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 4: you know, like let me explain this to you really quick.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 4: Like it's fine.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: We're gonna watch this again probably anyway in two months
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: or so. But like it's not that hard to explain.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: With the Avengers movies, it's not gonna be hard to
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: explain because you're saying therapeople going to go see the Doomsday.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: They're not gonna do with a fantastic forest therapeple are
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: gonna go see it.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 4: They're not gonna go who the fuck They're not gonna.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: Know who, Like the black part, Like there are people
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: who have seen who have seen all the Avengers movies,
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: but they still don't know who the fuck Black Panther is.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: They still don't know who the fuck ant Man is.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: They they know the basic like, oh, there's Store, there's
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: Iron Man, there's Captain America, there's Hulk. Oh wait, Captain America.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: Wait wait, who's that's not Captain? Who's that Captain America?
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: Oh there's a different Captain America. Now oh okay, great,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: I told you everything I needed to know in five
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: fucking seconds. Thank you. Let me watch the movie, you
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: know what I mean? Yeah, And like that's saying That's
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: why I'm saying, like with Star Wars, like there's all
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: these new hopefully projects that have been announced or that
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: are in or in that process of getting made with
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: different directors, different minds, And again I'm gonna hammer it
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: home again next year. If you announce stuff, it needs
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: to be stuff that. If anything, don't announce anything new,
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: just give us updates. That's it.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 4: Just give us updates. Don't if you announce one.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: If anything, if anything gets announced that's new, it's just like, hey,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: for example, like my my thought is this new ray
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: movie the announced years ago. I don't think that's happening.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: I think they're just gonna make that part of the
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: new trilogy they're working on, because that makes sense.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: I I just want them to let it die. I'm
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: sorry at this point, let it die.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: I let it.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: But even if it's dead, just tell us, just be like, hey,
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: we're doing this. Okay, great, cool, thank you, because now
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: we don't have to talk about this on podcasts or
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: like what ifs anymore. It's done. Not that not that
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: they not again, not that they owe us anything, but again,
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: when you literally go on these giant stages.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 4: Go hi, everybody, we're doing this movie.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: And then nothing nothing, yeah, nothing when again, but when
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: Marvel announces shit, it's like, oh wait, that already came
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: out again. The only copy they have against them is
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: the Blade movie. That's really it. That's it is the
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: where's the Blade movie? I don't know? Okay, great are
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: you guys? Is it canceled? No, we're gonna work on it. Okay,
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: it's been six years now, we'll figure it out. Okay, great,
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: but again that's one movie compared to let's see You
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: carry the four anyway, I'm going there for a little bit.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 4: Because you're tight. So that's my final thought.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: Just you need it. But yeah, if you, if you,
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: whatever you do next, ra, it's gab you a home run,
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: even if it's just announcing updates. Because anything I I say,
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: I am in the mindset you have to be patient
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: with flowning them because it can take them a while
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: to like figure out where they're going and what they're
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: gonna do and stuff like that, because that's the one
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: they'll give Kathleen credit for. Okay. In her error exit
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: like interviews, she sentially did with like depress is there's
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: these projects. Taikas handed in the script, Glover handed in
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: the script and rightfully so she said, we'll see if
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: they want to continue on with it, because she's right,
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: that's not her decision anymore. Great cool and then if
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: because and it's a good things also she because it's
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: like it kind of puts the ball in their court
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: where it's all of a sudden they go, yeah, i'ant
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: not do the tyke of movie people gonna go why
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: mm hmm, which you're not. You're more and so it's
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: like like you don't want it, which is totally fine.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: But I say they don't want to do the James
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: Mangle thing. Everyone can go why why would you want
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: to do the og Jedi story? We need to know this,
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: so just but also be patient. And I said, urger,
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: I say it to the fans, all right, do you
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: have anything you want to say before we get out
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: of here?
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 5: Hi?
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 3: Uh, I would say, good Joe Bini solo.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say this. So on that note, thanks clicking
• 1:17:35
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• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: coming up next week? Gonna oh yeah, here's the thing.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: Do you wonder what next week finally is? We would
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: have been their way earlier if I didn't go on
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: that sabbatical. Next week is episode two.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 4: Oh finally made it. It only took us five fucking years.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: It's okay, orcnsists, it's getting workds Hey, it is. Here's it.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: I'm happy with it. I'm happy for two hundred episodes.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be great. It's gonna be great.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: It's gonna be if you're happy. We're happy.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: Thanks. But mm hmm, I'm while there's been some times
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: with the podcast and that saying's going on hyat, it's
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: like like there's been like just some like stuff happens
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: and like there's episodes that come out. It is, life happens,
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: life finds a way. I've been on podcasts fortunately going
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: on other podcasts or they're not even around anymore. So
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: like I just I don't take this regrets. So thank
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: you to everyone who's supported the podcasts along the way
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: or has been on the podcast or stuff that I've
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: gone on to or people who have talked to offline
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: who have helped me, like guys should you know like
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: Missionary Times, wrestling, soup and like other stuff like that.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: So that being said, be patient, be nice. Yeah, oh
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: you know what, I'm gonna do this since it's part
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: two and we're done with the Star Wars talking for now,
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: there's last week. Mm hmmm. Kathleen Kennedy and you know what,
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: and Bob Baker m m, best of luck your future
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: endeavors heavy retirement. To Bob, it may the Force be
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: with you, made the force be with you or is
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: the new Disney Seals going to say no crits, only money, money, money,
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: and he is