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With Further Ado Episode #18: Seven Ferrets in a Trench Coat Apply for a Mortgage · Presented by Speaking Human

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: Tell me if this sounds familiar.
• 0:02
  Speaker 2: You're listening to a podcast, attending a presentation, or watching
• 0:07
  Speaker 2: a live stream, and after a whole bunch of chatter,
• 0:10
  Speaker 2: the hosts finally get around to the reason for the
• 0:13
  Speaker 2: whole shebang, saying without further ado, it happens all the
• 0:19
  Speaker 2: time at almost every event going back to the beginning
• 0:23
  Speaker 2: of recorded history. But what happens at the host never
• 0:27
  Speaker 2: actually get to the main attraction.
• 0:30
  Speaker 1: What if the whole thing were just the ADO? This
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: is that show? So I randomly heard this on the
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  Speaker 1: radio today. Let's see if you know this. If you've
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  Speaker 1: heard this before, Okay, this is stuff of legend it
• 1:01
  Speaker 1: maybe I don't know. You tell me, did you know
• 1:04
  Speaker 1: the Beatles once attempted to make a live action Lord
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  Speaker 1: of the Rings movie starring themselves, with plans to approach
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  Speaker 1: Stanley Kubrick to direct it.
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  Speaker 3: It can't be true.
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  Speaker 1: Did you know this? I mean, this is the story.
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  Speaker 1: The idea was that Paul McCartney would play Frodo, George
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  Speaker 1: Harrison would be ganned Off Ringo Star would be Sam
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  Speaker 1: and John Lennon would be Gollum.
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  Speaker 3: There's no They're no possible way.
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  Speaker 1: Come on, this is the story, but the project collapsed
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  Speaker 1: because J. R. R. Tolkien, the author of Lord of
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  Speaker 1: the Rings, wouldn't sell them the film Rings. He didn't
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  Speaker 1: like the idea of a pop group adapting his work.
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  Speaker 1: Rumor has it he hated the Beatles.
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  Speaker 3: He declined this offer because it's a dumb idea. That
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  Speaker 3: is the most absurd idea I've ever heard ever in
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  Speaker 3: the history of that universe.
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  Speaker 1: It could have worked, you think, so supposedly. Kubrick was
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  Speaker 1: kind of out too, He's like, there's no way. At
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  Speaker 1: the time, he was like, there's no way you can
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  Speaker 1: make this into a movie.
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  Speaker 3: This will never work. Why this is such a good idea? No,
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  Speaker 3: it's not. Come on, yeah, I don't. I mean, that's
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  Speaker 3: just it just sounds so dumb that you know what
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  Speaker 3: it does. It reminds me of like the AI slop
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  Speaker 3: that you see today, Like I could see this being.
• 2:31
  Speaker 1: That or something that AI made up.
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  Speaker 3: Oh for sure, but supposedly true.
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  Speaker 1: I can't verify. I wasn't there. I mean, how.
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  Speaker 3: Bizarre, how bizarre? Who would play Gollum?
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  Speaker 1: John Lennon?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, John Lennon? Why did I say Ringo?
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  Speaker 1: Ringo is sam?
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  Speaker 3: Okay?
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  Speaker 1: Would they all be small? When they're hobbits or would
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  Speaker 1: they just be regular sized?
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  Speaker 3: Do you think back then? How long ago was that?
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  Speaker 1: I think this was in the late sixties.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so, I mean it would be. They didn't have
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  Speaker 3: the special effects back then, I guess.
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  Speaker 1: But they could have put shoes on their knees.
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  Speaker 3: They could have and that's the extent of this movie.
• 3:11
  Speaker 3: If you could do shoes on someone's knees, you know
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  Speaker 3: you got gold right there.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I guess the good thing they didn't do it
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  Speaker 1: because they would probably all ended up bankrupt. Bankrupt might
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  Speaker 1: always been on black.
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  Speaker 3: It's been a while since we've done this segment.
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  Speaker 1: Ah, yeah, this is a classic, some would say, going
• 3:31
  Speaker 1: back to maybe the beginning of this show. Close to it.
• 3:35
  Speaker 1: What's this about, mind everybody? How does it work?
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's about Wesley Snipes. No, not really, I mean
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  Speaker 3: kind of. Yeah. Technically, Wesley Snipes never really filed for bankruptcy,
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  Speaker 3: but he'd been involved in this long running tax case
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  Speaker 3: with the IRS, and so this led him to be
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  Speaker 3: sentenced to three years in prison. And we originally were
• 4:00
  Speaker 3: coming up with, as everyone who's listening to this cast knows, now,
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  Speaker 3: we've got like this following you know, everybody kind of
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  Speaker 3: gets with further Ado and the joke of it all right,
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  Speaker 3: we don't even need to explain it anymore. Pretty short
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  Speaker 3: amount of time too, Like the level of intensity for
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  Speaker 3: with further Ado reached peak much sooner than all of
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  Speaker 3: our other casts.
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  Speaker 1: Pekuld do, pek ald do.
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  Speaker 3: He could do. That's pretty good. I like that. So
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  Speaker 3: the segments, this was joke back in the early days,
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  Speaker 3: bankrupt with Snipes, and the idea was talking about a
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  Speaker 3: celebrity or famous person who spent just a ton of money.
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  Speaker 3: We called it a buttload of money. Yeah on something.
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  Speaker 1: Crazy common term for a lot of something, butt load.
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  Speaker 3: You don't hear that term very much anymore. A butt
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  Speaker 3: load is so much better than you know, a crap
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  Speaker 3: ton or an insane amount. You say buttload, just like
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  Speaker 3: we did when we were kids. So we share one
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  Speaker 3: example of someone going bankrupt with Snipes. Super good segment,
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  Speaker 3: super good. Yeah, it's juicy, juicy. What do you got
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  Speaker 3: who you bringing to the table today? Who would go bankrupt?
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  Speaker 3: With Snipes?
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  Speaker 1: So I looked at a few different ones, you know,
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  Speaker 1: was exploring some things. I was like, ah, what did
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  Speaker 1: this person do? What did this person do? But here's
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  Speaker 1: an example from a guy who, unlike Snipes, truly did
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  Speaker 1: file for bankruptcy. I'm talking about Iron Mike Tyson.
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  Speaker 3: Iron Mike.
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  Speaker 1: You know Iron Mike, right, Yeah, Now, Mike Tyson made
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  Speaker 1: and spent a lot of dough in his time. This
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  Speaker 1: is the guy who bought a solid gold bathtub and
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  Speaker 1: several Bengal tigers, a lot of pigeons, a lot of pigeons.
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  Speaker 3: He loves pigeons.
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  Speaker 1: Well. One of the craziest I think and maybe greatest
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  Speaker 1: things he spent his money on, was in nineteen ninety
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  Speaker 1: six when he paid hype man Steve Crocodile Fitch three
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  Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars to just dress in military fatigues and
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  Speaker 1: shout guerrilla warfare during his press conferences. That's this guy's yeah,
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  Speaker 1: grilla warfare. Really yeah, Crocodile put this military uniform on.
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  Speaker 1: Come to my press conference every once in a while, Yo,
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  Speaker 1: grilla warfare. He was also, you know, ringside of Tyson's
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  Speaker 1: boxing matches, and he hung around to generally intimidate Tyson's opponents.
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  Speaker 1: That was my bankrupt with Snipes. When you have so
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  Speaker 1: much money, you're just like, come on over and yell
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  Speaker 1: gorilla warfare every once in a while.
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  Speaker 3: You know, this is how you know you have too
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  Speaker 3: much money. It's a sign for sure, anytime you see
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  Speaker 3: these frivolous like just what come on, No sane person
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  Speaker 3: would buy that. And I think that's what a buttload
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  Speaker 3: of money does to people, is that they make it
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  Speaker 3: makes some sort of slightly insane, doesn't it Like that's
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  Speaker 3: what it feels like when you're from the outside looking
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  Speaker 3: in anyway.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you're just looking for things to spend
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  Speaker 1: it on. But good for you know, Steve Crocodile Fitch
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  Speaker 1: got a good salary.
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  Speaker 2: Out of that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. There's nothing better in life when you feel like
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  Speaker 3: you got paid to do something it wasn't worth it,
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  Speaker 3: you know, or maybe something you just do anyway. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I'd do that for free, and you know you're getting
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  Speaker 3: paid a buttload of money for it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So who who are you going bankrupt? With Snipes with.
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  Speaker 3: I love this segment because it's just it's weird. The
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  Speaker 3: things you find are weird. People you've never you haven't
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  Speaker 3: thought about in decades, You stumble on and you go, wow,
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  Speaker 3: I want to talk about this person for just a second.
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  Speaker 3: So in nineteen eighty nine Chad Fresh, like super fresh.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I love the word super super fresh off
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  Speaker 3: of Batman. Kim Basinger. You remember Kim Basinger. Oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: married to Alec Baldwin.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, for a period of time.
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  Speaker 3: She's a Georgia native, and she decided that she wanted
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  Speaker 3: to own this property. She paid basically, her and her
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  Speaker 3: partners I should say, paid roughly twenty million dollars for
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  Speaker 3: seventeen hundred acres of this town. Most of this town
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  Speaker 3: in Brazilton, Georgia, which was sort of like real close
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  Speaker 3: to Athens, Georgia. If people are listening, they'd be like,
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  Speaker 3: where's Brazilton. That's also northeast of Atlanta. I guess most
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  Speaker 3: people would know Atlanta probably better than Athens. But it
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  Speaker 3: was a town of five hundred people. Now, she didn't purchase,
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  Speaker 3: legally purchase the whole municipality, right. It basically included virtually
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  Speaker 3: everything owned by the Brazilton family. So the town was Brazilton, right,
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  Speaker 3: But she didn't buy like the public streets or the cemetery,
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  Speaker 3: privately owned residences, or the town's name. Like, she didn't
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  Speaker 3: buy the town's name.
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  Speaker 1: She just owed a good chunk of the land.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so she does this. The development fizzled because her
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  Speaker 3: whole idea was they were going to turn it into
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  Speaker 3: a tourist attraction and a film like production center there.
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  Speaker 1: Oh okay, which.
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  Speaker 3: Is actually a pretty good idea.
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  Speaker 1: It's interesting, that was my question. And Atlanta since that
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  Speaker 1: time has become the hotspot to film everything. So maybe
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  Speaker 1: choose ahead of her time.
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  Speaker 3: Ahead of her time. But so it fizzled, you know,
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  Speaker 3: because this is bankrupt with snipes, I'm not telling you
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  Speaker 3: like a feel good story. And then she filed for bankruptcy.
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  Speaker 3: So she did file for bankruptcy. It's just one of
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  Speaker 3: those things where I'm like, well, you know, if you
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  Speaker 3: got a lot of money, you buy what you buy
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  Speaker 3: a town.
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  Speaker 1: I like these stories. I like the you know, sometimes
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  Speaker 1: it's like a mansion, then it expands to like a complex,
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  Speaker 1: then it's like an island, you know, Johnny Depp or
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  Speaker 1: these other people buy like an island, and then sometimes
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  Speaker 1: it's like a small town or an area. You got
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  Speaker 1: Elon Musk who's trying to you know, buy basically a
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  Speaker 1: state at this point. Yeah, I like these I like
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  Speaker 1: when somebody's like just trying to get as much land
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  Speaker 1: and property as they can, but especially when they have
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  Speaker 1: an idea in mind what they're gonna make it into.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Dave Chappelle, he has so much, you know, different
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  Speaker 3: property in Yellow Springs in Ohio. People say that he
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  Speaker 3: owns the town essentially, and you know, I saw him
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  Speaker 3: in concert and he basically was saying that. Like people
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  Speaker 3: treat him like he has, say, like he's a councilman
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  Speaker 3: or something. You know, they'll be like, you know, we
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  Speaker 3: really should. Uh, I don't know what they said, like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, fix up the street here or whatever. He's like, man,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not doing that, Like, you know, just just because
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  Speaker 3: I own these properties in the town, you know, it
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  Speaker 3: doesn't make me. I don't have any ownership in there,
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  Speaker 3: you know, like the streets and stuff. The thing about
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  Speaker 3: it all is that you have so much money that
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  Speaker 3: you just tend to do things that like, really, is
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  Speaker 3: that a good investment? I liken it too, Like when
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  Speaker 3: someone wins the lottery and they go just a little
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  Speaker 3: bit crazy and then you found out that they squandered
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  Speaker 3: the you know, million dollars or whatever it is that
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  Speaker 3: they won because they blew it on stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you feel like you have an endless supply you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean. After like having to pinch those
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  Speaker 1: pennies for so long, now you feel like, ah, I
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  Speaker 1: have millions so much. Yeah, I'm never going to run out.
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  Speaker 3: It reminds me of the bare naked ladies. I just
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  Speaker 3: saw them in concerts. If I had a million dollars
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  Speaker 3: and you know, now you sing that song, it's like,
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  Speaker 3: that's actually not that much. I mean, it is a
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  Speaker 3: lot for me, but not in the bigger context of money.
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  Speaker 3: Now you'd have to change it to like a billion,
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  Speaker 3: you know, it's like Austin Powers and.
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: Doctor Evil one million dollars.
• 12:01
  Speaker 3: Speaking of movies, alternative ending are you putting on your socks?
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  Speaker 2: So?
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  Speaker 1: AI alternative endings? This, you know, is one of those
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  Speaker 1: segments where our friends at AI come in and kind
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  Speaker 1: of take over do a lot of the work, which
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  Speaker 1: we always love. So what's happening here is you have
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  Speaker 1: a classic movie that everybody loves, and then AI swoops
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  Speaker 1: in and says, you know how you love this ending
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  Speaker 1: to this movie. Well, here's another ending to this movie
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  Speaker 1: you may or may not love. So we have a
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: new ending to the movie written by AI. Any movie
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: from any decade is eligible, but it just has to be,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it has to be a well known, kind
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  Speaker 1: of loved fixture of a movie. So what's what's your
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  Speaker 1: AI alternative ending? What do you have here?
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  Speaker 3: I'm really excited about this. Okay, this turned out to
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  Speaker 3: be better than I thought it was going to be,
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  Speaker 3: And I think this is where AI surprises me. Oftentimes
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  Speaker 3: it's more of like how absurd it can get and
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  Speaker 3: how just silly some of its answers to things are
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  Speaker 3: you know? So it's alternative ending to the Wizard of
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  Speaker 3: oz Oh, a beloved classic, right, yeah, like one hundred
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  Speaker 3: years old. You can't change that, AI? Why? Yes, it can?
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  Speaker 3: All right? So how would AI change the ending to
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  Speaker 3: the Wizard of oz I thought about giving the summary,
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  Speaker 3: but I really kind of want to read a little
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  Speaker 3: bit of its actual plot line, which has a little
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  Speaker 3: bit of like almost dialogue in it. Right, Oh, okay,
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  Speaker 3: are you cool with that? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Lay it on, all right?
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  Speaker 3: So the Wizard of oz the ending. Dorothy and her
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  Speaker 3: friends finally confront the Wizard, and Toto pulls back the
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  Speaker 3: curve and revealing the nervous little man operating the machinery.
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  Speaker 3: But before anyone can react, Toto grabs the bottom of
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  Speaker 3: the wall, and pulls back a second, much larger curtain.
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  Speaker 3: Behind is an enormous campaign headquarter, staffed entirely by dogs.
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  Speaker 3: Maps of oz cover the walls. Red strings connect munchkin Land,
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  Speaker 3: the Emerald City, and Dorothy's farmhouse. A banner reads Toto
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  Speaker 3: for Governor, a new leash on Kansas. Toto engineered everything.
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  Speaker 3: Toto hops onto a chair and begins speaking in a flawless,
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  Speaker 3: vaguely presidential voice. Dorothy, Dorothy, Dorothy, you were never supposed
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  Speaker 3: to make it this far.
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  Speaker 1: This is so good.
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  Speaker 3: Dorothy asks the obvious question, but why Toto presses a button.
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  Speaker 3: A projection appears, showing his campaign strategy. Dorothy's sudden disappearance
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  Speaker 3: generated statewide sympathy for the Gael family. Toto then returned
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  Speaker 3: to Kansas alone, positioning himself as the heroic little dog
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  Speaker 3: who had crossed dimensions searching for his missing owner. His
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  Speaker 3: approval rating sword donations poured in. The governor offered him
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  Speaker 3: a ceremonial position, unaware Toto had already secured enough delegates
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  Speaker 3: to challenge him to the next challenge him in the
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  Speaker 3: next election. Dorothy's return would ruin everything. The scarecrow cautiously objects,
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  Speaker 3: but dogs can't be governor, so this is like thoughtful.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Toto produces a pocket constitution and points out that Kansas
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  Speaker 3: law never explicitly says the governor must be human. The
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  Speaker 3: tin Man sheds a single drop of oil that's airtight.
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  Speaker 3: Toto offers Dorothy a deal. Remain permanently in eye and
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  Speaker 3: become its ambassador to Kansas and exchange. Toto will give
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  Speaker 3: the Scarecrow a cabinet position, award the tin Man a
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  Speaker 3: defense contract, and make the Lions secretary of Agriculture. Despite
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  Speaker 3: nobody understanding why, Dorothy refuses. A tense standoff follows. Glinda
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  Speaker 3: arrives inside her bubble, removes her crown, and reveals herself
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  Speaker 3: as Toto's campaign manager, Glinda the good Witch. Who would
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  Speaker 3: have thought?
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  Speaker 1: I know turned?
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  Speaker 3: She admits Dorothy could have gone home immediately, but keeping
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  Speaker 3: her in os produced excellent fundraising emails. Those ruby slippers
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: could have taken you home the whole time, Glinda says,
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  Speaker 3: But missing Kansas child trapped in Witch country tested extremely
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  Speaker 3: well with suburban voters. Dorothy clicks her heels together, but
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  Speaker 3: nothing happens. Toto has replaced the ruby slippers with convincing
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  Speaker 3: chew toys. I just like, you can't make this up.
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  Speaker 3: AI can make this up only AI. He turns to
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  Speaker 3: the camera as campaign music swells somewhere over the rainbow.
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  Speaker 3: He says, is a competitive electoral district. Cut to Kansas.
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  Speaker 3: Six months later, Toto stands behind a podium, one paw
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  Speaker 3: resting on a bible and the other raised as high
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  Speaker 3: as physically possible. Dorothy watches from the crowd under the
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  Speaker 3: supervision of two flying monkeys wearing sunglasses. Toto completes the
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  Speaker 3: oath of office, looks directly into the cameon declares There's
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  Speaker 3: no place like my administration. The screen fades to black
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  Speaker 3: as hundreds of dogs begin barking the national anthem.
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  Speaker 1: Wow Toto, Toto, the mastermind, pulling the curtain behind the curtain.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know, man. You hear that and
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  Speaker 3: you go, come on, A I made that up. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: even today, after all that we've seen, in heard and
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: dealt with with AI, I still am like surprised at
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  Speaker 3: times at how I say, like absurd and silly and bizarre,
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  Speaker 3: But I mean it is.
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  Speaker 1: It's like it's elaborately weird, yeah, and detailed and deep.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Where did that come?
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  Speaker 1: From My favorite part is that's air tight.
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  Speaker 3: That's air tight? Tin man? Oh, tin man? I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I don't I And honestly, I don't know if that
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  Speaker 3: is more absurd than the Beatles in the Lord of
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  Speaker 3: the Rings movie, because that's also strange.
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  Speaker 1: They're on par you know. So it's meshy with reality
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  Speaker 1: in some way.
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  Speaker 3: Fiction mirrors real life sometimes.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Ai, it's pulling from what's really happening. That's you know,
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  Speaker 1: that's a good one. That's a tough act to follow.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: It's a little simpler mine. It's also much you know, current.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: This is a more recent movie. I say any more recent.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: It's like forty years old talking about nineteen eighty six.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: Is top Gun?
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: Oh wow?
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: The love favorite of many. This one, you know, takes
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a surprising turn. So let me
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: tell you what happens in this alternative ending. Maverick finally
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: defeats the MiGs and returns triumphantly to the aircraft carrier.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: As everyone cheers, the flight deck suddenly folds open like
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: a giant garage door, revealing that the entire aircraft carrier
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: is actually a transformer that has been pretending to be
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: a navy vessel. Since nineteen forty three. It stands up,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: salutes Maverick, and says you have passed the vibe check.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Every fighter jet immediately transforms into smaller robots and begins
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  Speaker 1: slow clapping. The Navy quietly accepts this revelation, because, as
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: the Admiral explains, the paperwork would be unbearable. Iceman and
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: complete agreement, and the two pilots fly off, not F
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: fourteen's but riding the giant robots shoulders into the sunset
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: while Danger Zone plays on nothing but pan flutes.
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  Speaker 3: On pan That's that's the key, that's the icing right there.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the pan flutes.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, visually, I can see all of that unfolding.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: It paints a pretty picture.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: This seems like a Hollywood ending. Somebody would be like,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: you know what, this needs some transform and robots.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: It's sort of fit two themes from almost the same
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: time period together, Like transformers were very big around that time,
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: maybe a little bit before that, So it's kind of
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: an interesting way to sort of bridge two things from
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: the same era together.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: You know, you basically get your whole top gun movie
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: and then you're like setting up this next thing, which
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: is like this sci fi movie.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: Is a directive by Michael Bay. That's my question has
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: to be is he even alive at that point?
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: I think he is, because you know, in the nineties,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: mid nineties, so he's probably pretty young. But by the
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: mid nineties he's.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: Making movies twelve, he's twelve.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: In this movie, he's twelve, and he's like, yes, I'm ready.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: As he's playing with his transformers.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: He's like, we'll do it all in slow mo.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is uh. I like it. So I can
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: tell you right now that this segment is like one
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: of my I mean, we go on forever. We can
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: have a whole podcasts of just ai alternative endings. Put
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: this be a segment like the last segment. We've got
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: more new segments that could be segments.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is how we get segments. This is
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: how we keep churning them out.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's essentially a mind thundering. If if people listen
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: to other podcasts that we have brainstorming, we call him
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: mind thundering. Gotta go back way back for this one,
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: but I love this. Could this be a segment? Is
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: like this continuous pipeline of really great ideas and I
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: say really great in air quotes because.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's like perpetually average ideas.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: Perpetually average ideas.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: But you know this is where where they all come from,
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: where they all developed for the most part, and why
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: it takes so long before you see a recurring segment
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: like the past two we just did because we keep
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: just getting new ones that we're excited to test out.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: So for this one today, you know, I was playing
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: around with a few things, as I often am, but
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: the one I landed on really actually connects back to
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: my random fact from earlier. It also kind of connects
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: back to AI alternative endings, and in some way it's
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: similar to Bankrupt with snipes. So it's a full a
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: full circle here. Today this one is called Fade to Never.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: Oh, I like that.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Here's what happens in this one. I think I think
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: you'll dig this. We share stories or tidbits about movies
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: that were almost made but didn't happen, so can be
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: the movies as a whole, different ideas for movies that exist,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: alternative casting or scripts, you know, et cetera. So examples
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: one of them, we just got the Beatles Lord of
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: the Rings movie could be an example.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Another example was Eric Stoltz originally cast as Marty McFly
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: and Back to the Future. They even started filming with him.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: That would have been a very different movie before he
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: got replaced. And then a third example I'll throw out
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: there is Superman Lives. Is This movie that was to
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: be directed by Tim Burton, written by Kevin Smith and
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: starring Nicholas Cage got pretty far in development before it
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: got kind of squashed. So these kind of stories I
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: think could be interesting to tell wake much like Bankrupt
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: with Snipes. Who doesn't like to hear about the disasters?
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, disasters or the things that never were m h.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: It's like when you told me that story about the
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: Lord of the Rings and the Beatles, I'm like, no way, Yeah,
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: that's gotta be fake. In my head, I'm like, there's
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: no way that anybody ever thought that was a good idea,
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: but the fact that it was a real thing. If
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: if it were a real thing, It's almost like the
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: question if an epic idea were to be thought of
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: but never happened, did it ever really exist? It's kind
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: of like a tree falls in the woods. Yeah, no
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: one's there to hear it. Does it make a sound?
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Is it anything? Or does it just you know, drift away.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, speaking of drifting away and something that's in the past.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: I tossed around a few things, but this makes a
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: lot of sense, and I think you'll like this. Mine's
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: called explain it to a medieval peasant, Okay, And this
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: is just basically us taking a modern object or controversy
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: or whatever. I'll give you an example, cryptocurrency or airline
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: boarding groups or AI girlfriends, you know, these weird things
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: that might even be weird today but are like more normalized,
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: and explaining it to a peasant from like thirteen twenty.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: The peasant then has to decide whether it's you know,
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: sorcery or you know, because a lot of that stuff
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: probably would come across as that. But how would you
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: explain these things? That's the real key, that's the hard part,
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: but also kind of could be the comedic part. If
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: you remember back in the fuzz.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking of. Right, We
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: brought somebody in the time machine at one point, Yeah,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: from Mike what was it the eighteen hundredths or something.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, we had George Washington that we brought. I
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: was explaining to him and you know, a phone like
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: a smartphone, iPhone or whatever. Just the idea of like
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: a selfie, right what you know what I mean that
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: idea is just super foreign and the hard part for
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: us and also for the listeners out there, it's like
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: putting yourself in the shoes of someone who has literally
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: no idea what's going on today? You know that that
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: is so fantastical that it's almost like how could that
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: possibly exist? Right? It's the fun and the challenging part
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: of that.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, now I like that one, and I remember that
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: fuzz episode very fondly. Yeah, determining what a selfie was,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: then participating in it, enjoying it. Yeah, So yeah, I
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: think there's a lot of good meat for the chewing there. Yeah,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: for sure, because think of all the things. You're going
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: back to medieval times. In some cases it could be
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: it could be like twenty years ago.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I think the medieval times gives you like
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: a greater appreciation. I mean, you might as well be aliens,
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: you know, talking about this stuff. George Washington, when I
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: even said selfie, thought I was saying sell fee like
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: s E L L like a like a sales tax
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: type of thing, you know, which is kind of funny
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: because you wouldn't think of that, right.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: This is true. Why do you think they need to
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: be peasants? Do you think the the richer people will
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: be more well read? They might?
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: They they know things, you know, like they're It just
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: sounded fun medieval peasant. I didn't say medieval nobility. You know,
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: I thought we could relate better too to peasants.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: You know that's true, they're more are Yeah, that's more
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: our level.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: Our speed. You know, I've been watching too much House
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: of the Dragon, Game of Thrones.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, clearly, which everybody knows takes place in medieval times.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, of course dragons and.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Well another couple for the collection. I think we've exhausted
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: all words that need to be said about all these things, right.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: We we've I mean we've exhausted a lot of things.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: Words would be one of them.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: When do you think Snipes is gonna call in and
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: be like, I want to be on the show, Wait
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: till I tell you about some of the shit I bought.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: What if he like, what was that Pennsylvania Avenue? What
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: was the one that he was like in the White.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: House president or yeah, there was some fifteen hundred Pennsylvania
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Avenue or something like that, or or murder at fifteen hundred?
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: Was he sickish service? Or was he murder at sixteen hundred?
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, sixteen hundred, because sixteen hundred Pennsylvania Avenue, it's not fifteen.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: You're like down the street, there's a murder.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Down the street.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: Why it's the wrong place, Like nobody cares about that place.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: That's why