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WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.940 --> 00:00:21.970 Philip Sellers: Hello, and welcome to another episode of Nutanix Weekly, the only podcast on the internet that brings you the best of Nutanix, along with our real-world experiences. We like to call it Content with Context, and we do that by finding the best stuff on the internet to bring to you. 2 00:00:21.970 --> 00:00:39.089 Philip Sellers: In terms of news in the Nutanix ecosphere. So, I'm your host, Phil Sellers. I'm the practice director here at Zintegra for Modern Data Center, and Nutanix, of course, is just one of our partners here, one of our leading partners from a data center perspective. 3 00:00:39.260 --> 00:00:53.740 Philip Sellers: And I couldn't bring you a podcast by just droning home by myself, so I've got to have some guests. My co-hosts here today, first up is Chris Calhoun, one of our Solutions Architects, former Nutanix sales engineer. 4 00:00:53.910 --> 00:00:57.520 Philip Sellers: And, all-around good guy with a shiny head. 5 00:00:57.950 --> 00:00:58.810 Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: Yee-haw! 6 00:00:59.000 --> 00:01:11.239 Philip Sellers: Chris has, just celebrated his first full year with Nutanix, or excuse me, with Zintegra, after he joined us from Nutanix, and 7 00:01:11.310 --> 00:01:19.589 Philip Sellers: It's been a fun year. Can you believe it's only been a year? Because it does actually feel like, we've been working together longer. 8 00:01:19.590 --> 00:01:35.610 Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: It definitely does. I definitely feel like, this is a family for this crew, anyway. You know, we, we look after each other, we work hard together, arm-in-arm, looking for best possible solutions for customers, and trying to, 9 00:01:35.610 --> 00:01:48.909 Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: just position what we think is the best solution for their overall success, and I think that that's really what's been fun for all of us. We've got different perspectives and different viewpoints, but 10 00:01:48.910 --> 00:01:56.629 Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: In the end, we all realize that we're fighting for the right purpose, and that's a good thing, for sure. 11 00:01:57.180 --> 00:02:04.360 Philip Sellers: Well, and it's not just the Three Musketeers on this podcast, it's how we like to work with our customers, too, right? We like to be… 12 00:02:04.700 --> 00:02:11.969 Philip Sellers: Arm-in-arm with them, trying to make sure that we're meeting their needs, and that they get the right outcomes at the end of the day. 13 00:02:12.450 --> 00:02:29.429 Philip Sellers: Yes, sir. Which leads me to the other co-host today, our third musketeer, Andy Green, also a former Nutanix sales engineer and a former Cohesity sales engineer. Andy, how long have you been with Nutanix now? 14 00:02:30.670 --> 00:02:31.809 Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: Or even Zintegral. 15 00:02:31.810 --> 00:02:35.710 Philip Sellers: Sorry. I'm sorry, I got Nutanix on my mind, it's Nutanix Weekly. 16 00:02:36.220 --> 00:02:36.870 Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: Yes. 17 00:02:36.870 --> 00:02:41.169 Andy Greene: Yeah, so it's been over 10 months, so I'm approaching that 1-year mark as well. 18 00:02:41.170 --> 00:02:45.529 Philip Sellers: Yeah, it's funny, you joined us 19 00:02:46.130 --> 00:02:54.689 Philip Sellers: right as… I think we were making travel plans for you to go to our sales kickoff before you were actually officially on the payroll. 20 00:02:54.730 --> 00:03:12.980 Philip Sellers: So you got to spend time with us. We're already planning the next sales kickoff next January, so it's gonna be exciting to have you guys both go through that full cycle again with us, with a lot more perspective and a little more time under your belt. 21 00:03:13.120 --> 00:03:15.779 Philip Sellers: As a… as Integra employee. 22 00:03:18.470 --> 00:03:19.990 Andy Greene: Definitely looking forward to it. 23 00:03:20.160 --> 00:03:25.720 Philip Sellers: So, as always, we're trying to bring you the best 24 00:03:25.830 --> 00:03:43.290 Philip Sellers: news from the Nutanix ecosphere, and today we wanted to talk a little bit about backup and recovery, and this time specifically for Nutanix Prism. So the name of the blog post we're going to be talking about today is Enhanced Backup and Restore for Nutanix Prism. 25 00:03:43.320 --> 00:03:54.369 Philip Sellers: It was written by Abhinav Matur and Rujai Segal, Nutanix employees. It's available out on Nutanix.com slash blog. 26 00:03:54.410 --> 00:03:59.490 Philip Sellers: And, the published date was July 22nd, 2025, but 27 00:03:59.540 --> 00:04:02.319 Philip Sellers: We're gonna dive right into this, so, 28 00:04:02.400 --> 00:04:05.439 Philip Sellers: We're talking about Nutanix Prism Central. 29 00:04:05.960 --> 00:04:18.659 Philip Sellers: And it's a pretty important part of the overall Nutanix deployment. So, Chris, for anyone that's not overly familiar with Nutanix Prism Central. 30 00:04:18.769 --> 00:04:29.270 Philip Sellers: It's more than just the way that you license your clusters today. What else is Prism Central, and what does it represent for a customer and their Nutanix infrastructure? 31 00:04:30.210 --> 00:04:37.539 Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: Prism Central is the overarching manager of managers, is the way that it was, 32 00:04:37.730 --> 00:04:57.489 Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: originally discussed with me and relayed to me, and that's the way I would share it with potential customers, is that the idea is, and if you want to parallel that with something that they probably already know, that would be vCenter. But it's so much more, and that's really where 33 00:04:57.520 --> 00:05:04.470 Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: The idea around the need for a backup and… and that continuous, 34 00:05:05.000 --> 00:05:19.769 Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: timing of that backup is something really important, but anyway, not to jump ahead, Prism Central is the overarching management, of your Nutanix environment. I didn't say Nutanix Cluster, I said Nutanix Environment, because 35 00:05:19.770 --> 00:05:31.359 Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: It manages not only a single cluster, but multiple clusters. So it is that single pane of glass view into your full-scope environment, whether it's on-prem. 36 00:05:31.410 --> 00:05:43.669 Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: You've got edge-deployed Nutanix clusters, or even clusters in the public cloud for NC2, as it's called, whether it's Azure, AWS, or GCP. 37 00:05:43.670 --> 00:05:52.370 Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: The ability there to have a single view of your full-scope Nutanix environment is so crucial, not only for 38 00:05:52.900 --> 00:06:08.040 Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: You can even look at it as day-to-day management, but you can do that within Prism Element, which is at each individual cluster level. But, because all of these, management duties roll up into Prism Central. 39 00:06:08.040 --> 00:06:16.200 Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: That becomes the brain of brains, or the master of the cluster, and it's really key to several functions of 40 00:06:16.400 --> 00:06:29.119 Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: Roles-based access. And to me, as an engineer, some of the key concepts are, and just want to directly jump to it, is capacity runway. 41 00:06:29.340 --> 00:06:48.320 Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: That's something that this time of year, and depending on when this gets released, a lot of businesses are working on their business plans for next year, and trying to forecast their budget. And I remember my days pre-Nutanix, and it was, hey, what do you need for next year's budget? 42 00:06:48.320 --> 00:07:00.269 Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: it's a shot in the dark, you know? It's a rub-your-magic 8-ball of trying to figure out what the expectation and what the budget would look like for next year, so… 43 00:07:00.410 --> 00:07:16.039 Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: The capacity runway really gives you perspective on trend analysis of each cluster, consistency of, hey, if you continue to increase and use your resources of CPU, compute, RAM, etc, and storage. 44 00:07:16.040 --> 00:07:21.439 Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: In the same fashion, then here's the growth model that you can expect 45 00:07:21.500 --> 00:07:25.270 Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: But Nutanix does one better. It even says, okay. 46 00:07:25.590 --> 00:07:34.989 Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: If this is the trend, then at this point in the future, whether it's 2 months, 3 months, or you're planning for a new workload. 47 00:07:35.120 --> 00:07:53.520 Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: That's really something that no other technology can give built into the platform, is, hey, what do you expect to grow? Give me some more detail, and I'll help model your specific data. So, there's a lot more to that, but to me, that is a big feature within Prism Central. 48 00:07:53.520 --> 00:07:58.690 Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: That I think is ultimately a key benefit, just right out of the gate, so… 49 00:07:58.690 --> 00:08:09.589 Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: I know that that was a long answer, but it's a specific focus on one of the, I think, real niche, or niche, type 50 00:08:09.730 --> 00:08:17.899 Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: benefits to the Nutanix platform, and it's not only for one cluster, it's for all clusters. So that's really a key talking point. 51 00:08:17.900 --> 00:08:34.229 Philip Sellers: So, manager of managers, very similar to vCenter, but also pretty different than vCenter. True. And, you know, I'm curious, Andy, what are some of the things that make Prism Central different than vCenter that folks might know today? 52 00:08:35.120 --> 00:08:40.149 Andy Greene: Well, you know, I think top of mind for me is just that, 53 00:08:40.220 --> 00:08:55.790 Andy Greene: in the VMware world, without vCenter, you can't build a cluster, right? With Nutanix, we have that ability to build a Nutanix cluster and manage it through the local cluster manager, which is called Prism Element. And, you know, Prism Element is being served from 54 00:08:55.790 --> 00:09:04.360 Andy Greene: from the Nutanix software on each of the nodes inside of that cluster, so it tends to be very resilient and always available for us. 55 00:09:04.450 --> 00:09:12.780 Andy Greene: Prism Central builds on that, and it brings a lot of additional functionality around self-service. 56 00:09:12.780 --> 00:09:25.020 Andy Greene: There's some really good functionality around reporting that's built in, and, you know, as Chris mentioned before, this is more of a global view of all of the Nutanix instances that you might be managing. 57 00:09:25.020 --> 00:09:39.690 Andy Greene: So, you know, reporting at that level, customizable dashboards that allow you to really, you know, drill into the information that a particular user might want to see as soon as they log in to their Prism Central instance. 58 00:09:39.690 --> 00:10:01.630 Andy Greene: you know, your security operations team, your IT managers, your IT admins, IT leaders, they may all have a very different view of what they want to see in there. And there are also some really good tools built in around, you know, resource inefficiency detection, right-sizing your workloads, so that we can get the most out of the hardware that we've purchased. 59 00:10:01.630 --> 00:10:11.180 Andy Greene: As well as, you know, low-code, no-code operations. So, you know, I would say that Prism Central, especially with the NCM functionality. 60 00:10:11.180 --> 00:10:19.999 Andy Greene: brings a lot of additional, features that are, you know, bring a lot of value to those IT organizations that are out there using it. 61 00:10:20.210 --> 00:10:33.390 Philip Sellers: Yeah, so two critical things that I heard you say. One is, you know, you've got lots of metadata across all of these different clusters you're managing. As Chris pointed out. 62 00:10:33.390 --> 00:10:45.179 Philip Sellers: You've got the ability to see that global view, as you pointed out, Andy. You've got a cluster, whether you have Prism Central or not, because that exists 63 00:10:45.240 --> 00:11:01.160 Philip Sellers: through native capabilities within Nutanix, so that's different. But that metadata is what really powers a lot of the other things you discussed in terms of capacity for runway, you know, overall reporting, and 64 00:11:01.160 --> 00:11:08.410 Philip Sellers: some of the other key features. Second big thing here is you mentioned NCN. 65 00:11:08.890 --> 00:11:19.430 Philip Sellers: Nutanix Cloud Management, that's another licensing SKU, it's another product. It runs in Prism Central, but it turns on additional functionality and features. 66 00:11:19.450 --> 00:11:33.319 Philip Sellers: within your environment. That's another critical thing. So Prism Central is not something you have to license to have. It actually is your function today of applying licenses to your clusters once they're built. 67 00:11:33.380 --> 00:11:37.539 Philip Sellers: You license those through Prism Central, and 68 00:11:37.770 --> 00:11:49.109 Philip Sellers: it provides those overarching services that don't fit necessarily in a single cluster, but need to run and manage across multiple clusters. So, little different paradigm shift, 69 00:11:49.530 --> 00:11:52.569 Philip Sellers: But, when we talk about metadata. 70 00:11:52.820 --> 00:12:01.289 Philip Sellers: backups become a critical part of the discussion. So, now that we understand a little bit of what Prism Central is, the role that it plays. 71 00:12:01.500 --> 00:12:13.260 Philip Sellers: What's this release about, and what's the news here? Chris, I think I'm gonna throw it to you. What are we talking about here in terms of backup and restore for Nutanix Prism? 72 00:12:14.960 --> 00:12:22.119 Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: with the latest release of the Nutanix software version 7.3, 73 00:12:22.330 --> 00:12:30.250 Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: Basically, there are now customizable recovery points for point-in-time backups. 74 00:12:30.300 --> 00:12:42.640 Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: for Prism Central. That's really the key. Previously, prior to version 7.3, the RPO that could be set was at a 2-hour minimum. 75 00:12:42.720 --> 00:12:44.970 Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: Now it's customizable from 76 00:12:46.390 --> 00:13:02.969 Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: from 1 hour, 2 hour, up to 24 hours. And really, there's intervals in between, and then what that does is, for those customers that have either, we'll say, outage windows or maintenance windows, that they have a shorter time of 77 00:13:03.060 --> 00:13:20.030 Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: they have less than 2 hours to work with, we need that 1 hour, window available so that they can have that, backup during that continuous, planning and backing up of, Prism Central. 78 00:13:20.140 --> 00:13:36.169 Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: The key here is not only being able to back it up to, several choices, or a couple choices, Nutanix Object Storage, which is the, we'll say, the on-prem local S3-compatible storage that Nutanix offers. 79 00:13:36.320 --> 00:13:48.159 Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: Or even something like an AWS S3 bucket, if you want to do it off-site, so that you have external backup of your Prism Central metadata. 80 00:13:49.460 --> 00:13:55.210 Philip Sellers: Yeah, so when we talk about Prism Central, you mentioned it's a point-in-time backup, which is 81 00:13:55.300 --> 00:14:11.890 Philip Sellers: I think almost like a snapshot, right? It's a point-in-time… that's very snapshot-related technology. There's also a second type of backup available. So point-in-time's gonna use S3 compatible. At first, it was AWS only. 82 00:14:12.020 --> 00:14:19.650 Philip Sellers: And you're saying with 7.3, the new functionality is now we can use Nutanix objects as a destination for those backups. 83 00:14:20.140 --> 00:14:26.140 Philip Sellers: There's a second type as well, Andy, and that's called continuous backups. Where do continuous backups go? 84 00:14:27.140 --> 00:14:35.400 Andy Greene: Continuous backups go to one of the Nutanix clusters, one or more of the Nutanix clusters that are being managed by that Prism Central instance. 85 00:14:36.110 --> 00:14:40.309 Philip Sellers: And how do those two differ, point-in-time versus continuous backup? 86 00:14:40.860 --> 00:14:59.259 Andy Greene: Well, continuous is really streaming any changes that you might make in real time, whereas if we're doing the point-in-time backups based on an RPO, you know, now we've got that ability to choose the point in time that we're back, that we're backing that up. So it may be 1 hour, 2 hours, 4 hours. 87 00:14:59.260 --> 00:15:10.460 Andy Greene: up to 12 or 24 hours. So, you know, realistically, one is capturing those changes in real time, whereas the other is just capturing it based off that RPO that we've configured. 88 00:15:11.520 --> 00:15:20.800 Philip Sellers: So, Chris, you mentioned it's configurable from an hour up to 24 hours, with intervals in between. I'm curious, like, you know, to me… 89 00:15:21.470 --> 00:15:28.539 Philip Sellers: why would you choose a longer or shorter, you know, why was it 2 hours for everybody? Okay. 90 00:15:30.510 --> 00:15:38.430 Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: I think, to me, obviously, you've got to have a baseline of… you've got to decide, initially, where's the… 91 00:15:38.530 --> 00:15:46.419 Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: A happy medium sweet spot, where customers know that they need to capture data 92 00:15:46.540 --> 00:15:58.370 Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: But also, not also flow the network in the sense that it doesn't constantly need to have those replication changes circulating so that it's… 93 00:15:59.470 --> 00:16:05.389 Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: too chatty, to be quite honest, on the network, and I think that that's something, to me, that, 94 00:16:05.390 --> 00:16:17.079 Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: That's one of those where Prism Central, if you're gonna make day-to-day, we'll say CRUD, which are, VM-specific changes, create, update, delete, that type thing. 95 00:16:17.080 --> 00:16:33.290 Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: to your VM environment. Sometimes those may be done, and still may be done, at the Prism Element level. So, think about regionally, there may be clusters where local staff needs to just operate on that one specific instance of PRISM Element. 96 00:16:33.390 --> 00:16:39.359 Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: Well, that data, will obviously, stay in sync, but the… 97 00:16:39.790 --> 00:16:59.680 Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: Prism Central needs to have the most recent data, so that at some point in time, those changes are captured, PC updates, and then you have a point-in-time backup, but it doesn't flow the network. And that's, to me, one of the key benefits now of, hey, this is allowing you as a… 98 00:16:59.760 --> 00:17:12.260 Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: as a customer to decide what's best. So, I think that that's really something that stands out to me as a benefit here, is always listening to the flexibility of where 99 00:17:12.530 --> 00:17:20.470 Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: Customers need, adjustments, or to help them fit, better for the business. 100 00:17:21.710 --> 00:17:41.019 Andy Greene: Yeah, and, you know, Chris talked a lot about the amount of data that we're transmitting over the network, but that same amount of data is also hitting our cloud storage, for instance. So, you know, when we think about the cost of data, we always want to be conscientious of how much data we're sending up there and how much data we're retaining. 101 00:17:41.930 --> 00:17:53.420 Philip Sellers: Yeah, because it's not free. That's one of the things about cloud storage, is we pay by the drip, we pay by the metering, and so it can add up, and that's sometimes one of the, 102 00:17:53.600 --> 00:17:55.130 Philip Sellers: the bigger… 103 00:17:55.610 --> 00:18:02.159 Philip Sellers: shocks for our customers, our clients, is getting the cloud bill at the end of the month. 104 00:18:02.550 --> 00:18:07.449 Philip Sellers: You know, this is all great, but… 105 00:18:07.990 --> 00:18:19.939 Philip Sellers: what all is actually included in these backups? Andy, can you kind of give us some idea of what we're capturing in a Prism Central backup? 106 00:18:20.780 --> 00:18:35.689 Andy Greene: Yeah, I think, you know, what we've seen over time is that more and more services have moved up into Prism Central. So, you know, with that, it kind of makes sense that we would, we would want to protect it, just like any other critical component of our infrastructure. 107 00:18:35.690 --> 00:18:54.750 Andy Greene: So, you know, think about things like your Nutanix disaster recovery policies, any types of AHV-based VLANs, virtual switch configurations as well. You know, if you're using Flow Virtual Networking, and you've created virtual private clouds, or VPCs. 108 00:18:54.750 --> 00:19:08.010 Andy Greene: You know, these are all things that can be backed up as part of that Prism Central backup as well. Legacy flow network security, intelligent operations, VM management, cluster management. 109 00:19:08.010 --> 00:19:31.190 Andy Greene: You know, and then tied into a lot of these, we see our clients using categories, right? We're creating that key-value pair of categories inside of Prism Central to categorize our VMs, and then do things like apply those security policies. So we can back up the categories. You know, I think, Philip, you may have called out earlier that licensing is now 110 00:19:32.520 --> 00:19:46.419 Andy Greene: it's all handled through Prism Central, so we're backing up all of the licenses that we've applied, as well as, you know, I mentioned earlier reporting being built in through the NCM feature set, so… 111 00:19:46.420 --> 00:19:56.859 Andy Greene: you know, any templates that we've created around reporting, we're backing that up. Our Nutanix file storage configuration, Nutanix object configuration. 112 00:19:56.860 --> 00:20:05.600 Andy Greene: you know, really a lot of different features, a lot of different services that have moved up inside of that Prism Central construct. 113 00:20:05.600 --> 00:20:24.910 Andy Greene: now we're backing it up, and we're getting that protection from, you know, for all of the same reasons that we would back up our virtual machines, right? If we have a network outage, if we have some type of natural disaster that hits the data center, you know, we're gaining that protection and the ability to 114 00:20:24.910 --> 00:20:33.410 Andy Greene: very quickly recover our Prism Central instance, along with all the many hours of configuration that we might have put into that Prism Central. 115 00:20:33.920 --> 00:20:42.120 Philip Sellers: Yeah, you know, it's funny, I once had, someone in my organization tell me that vCenter didn't matter, and 116 00:20:42.330 --> 00:21:01.279 Philip Sellers: I just about lost my lunch, because I knew that I had notes and categories and tags and all of those things, all the metadata around those virtual machine workloads were in vCenter, and in the same way, Prism Central's carrying all that metadata, so it may be… 117 00:21:01.370 --> 00:21:07.490 Philip Sellers: critical to the way that you backup, regardless of who your backup vendor is. It could be critical to… 118 00:21:07.550 --> 00:21:26.890 Philip Sellers: just institutional knowledge. That metadata is really powerful at the end of the day. Whether it's, you know, how much CPU you've used over the last 6 months, or whether it's, which group owns this. I've worked in large organizations, and sometimes playing whack-a-mole. 119 00:21:26.890 --> 00:21:41.019 Philip Sellers: trying to figure out who owns this application, or who owns this server. So, that… that becomes a critical institutional knowledge base for a lot of organizations stored right next to the virtual machines where they're running. 120 00:21:41.910 --> 00:21:52.250 Philip Sellers: So this is great. So now we have more options on the table. We've got continuous backup available, targeting a Prism Element instance. 121 00:21:52.420 --> 00:22:05.200 Philip Sellers: for all of our Prism Central data. We've got point-in-time backups, which have supported AWS S3 for a while, for point-in-time, and now support S3 object storage. 122 00:22:05.390 --> 00:22:08.520 Philip Sellers: You know, where's somewhere that a customer could get? 123 00:22:08.660 --> 00:22:24.260 Philip Sellers: Nutanix Object Storage, do they have to be running it on-prem? I mean, that's obviously one option. You could be running your own, maybe, backup cluster next to your primary clusters. Where else could they possibly get Nutanix Objects as a service? 124 00:22:25.880 --> 00:22:29.869 Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: Hmm, maybe… Boy, you lobbed it up. 125 00:22:30.360 --> 00:22:33.700 Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: about Zentegra's managed service. 126 00:22:34.010 --> 00:22:51.979 Philip Sellers: That's right, folks. We do. That is one of our many, Nutanix-powered abilities here. We do have Nutanix Object as a Service. So, you know, if you're looking for, you know, really good, restorability and things like that, you know, we can run that. 127 00:22:52.070 --> 00:23:12.010 Philip Sellers: Right next to, maybe, where you're storing your VM backups. And I think that's a critical call-out as we kind of close out the discussion. We're talking about Prism Central, the metadata, and all of the configuration for Prism Central. We're not talking about the workloads. We're not talking about things running in NKP or running in virtual machines. 128 00:23:12.010 --> 00:23:22.799 Philip Sellers: Still need backup software for those. This is just really protecting that Prism Central layer. And so, it's very complimentary, and it's something you shouldn't overlook. 129 00:23:22.870 --> 00:23:38.259 Philip Sellers: or assume is being backed up by traditional backups. So, you know, it's important to be informed, and to make sure you've got a good plan for where your Prism Central backups are being stored. 130 00:23:39.550 --> 00:23:45.410 Philip Sellers: Guys, I appreciate the conversation. We've taken a relatively short 131 00:23:45.560 --> 00:23:56.700 Philip Sellers: blog post, but important blog post, and added a lot of context around it today. I really appreciate both of your insights. I learned a thing or two. 132 00:23:57.110 --> 00:23:59.170 Philip Sellers: This is something, 133 00:23:59.230 --> 00:24:08.179 Philip Sellers: I haven't done before. I haven't targeted S3 storage. I've always backed it up to a Prism element. So, new capabilities, it's always changing. 134 00:24:08.180 --> 00:24:21.580 Philip Sellers: And for everybody listening, reiterate, this is part of the 7.3 release, and if you want this, there are embedded links and things, and you can always test out Nutanix Prism Central if you haven't seen it already. 135 00:24:21.580 --> 00:24:28.839 Philip Sellers: by going to the free test drive site. That's available for free on demand at Nutanix.com. 136 00:24:29.530 --> 00:24:39.939 Philip Sellers: Well, guys, appreciate your insights, and for everybody listening, thanks for hanging out with us, and we hope you'll be here for another podcast soon. Have a great day.