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“Sources Confirm” · The 3-0 Take

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  Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Three O Take where we talk
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  all things Major League Baseball.
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  Here's Kyle Carlin and Nate Reyes it.
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  All starts right now. Welcome back to the Three O Take
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  presented by Seek Geek. This is episode 402.
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  I'll be your host, Kyle Corn, and I'm here with my Co host,
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  Nate Reyes and Nate. Four O 2 Four O 2 Our second
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  episode post end of season. Fully into the off season, and
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  let me tell you, I hate it. But before we get into that, are
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  you're a you're a Spotify guy, right?
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  Oh no, you're Apple Music. You're.
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  One of those people I switched. I switched like year and a half
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  ago. Two years ago, Paige made me
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  switch. And I regret the switch.
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  I'm going to be honest with you. I I regret it.
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  I had like a true Apple Music fan.
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  I. Had like 2500 songs in on my
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  apple like just Oh yeah, it's not a.
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  Ton of music that I just don't remember now.
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  I can't remember what it was like, who the band was, like,
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  what the name of the song was. And I can't find it again.
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  And it's just gone. What it's not though, It doesn't
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  go away like Spotify. You Spotify both of these.
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  You have access to the music. I can't find what I have.
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  This isn't like iTunes, no dude circa 2007 where you have to
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  like buy them and if you I have like reset your iPhone iPod, it
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  goes by. 5 or 600 songs that I don't remember what I had on
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  Apple. It's not like this song pops
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  into my head. It's just like it's gone.
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  I don't remember what it was. But I do remember that I had
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  more songs than Apple than I do now.
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  Yeah, but you know what they say.
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  It's like when you're trying to remember something, you can't
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  remember it. Well, it must have not been that
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  important. Like, no, you're going to
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  remember your bangers, like your go to your repeat, your gym
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  music, your commute music. The other stuff is, it kind of
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  just falls by the wayside. I don't like change and it was a
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  big change for me and I regret it, so, well, I'm gonna.
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  People stand strong. Don't listen to this.
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  I want to force you to sit in this regret a little longer.
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  Do Are you familiar with the Spotify wrapped?
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  I think so, yeah. I don't know how to access it or
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  where you see that, but Oh well, this is, this is good.
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  So this is, like, completely new to you then.
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  All right, so. Basically, take your phone, take
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  your phone, 'cause I I'm. Curious.
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  I don't listen to my podcast on Spotify, though.
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  That's fine. We're not here to do.
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  We're not. Here for I thought you were
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  going to do that same stuff. All right.
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  No, I just go to Spotify. I just wanted to see.
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  You don't have to go into details.
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  I know certain people are like. Oh, wrapped.
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  I see it up there private about their music, but I'm just.
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  Curious if there's yeah, click it but turn it down though,
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  because I'm not trying to get flagged for any music playing.
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  Do the your 2023 wrapped or your 2023 top songs?
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  No. So go to your homepage.
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  Go to the top. Yeah, at the very top it'll say
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  like, all music, podcast, audiobook.
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  Scroll to the right, you'll see a little.
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  Wrapped right? Then when I hit click that and
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  then there should be a a a big box that says you're 2023
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  wrapped. OK.
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  All right. So turn it down because I don't
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  want to be flagged all. Right, Turn it down.
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  All right, So click it. OK.
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  We don't have to go through the whole thing.
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  I'm just curious. I want to see if there's
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  anything that. Pops Morgan Wallen's going to be
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  up there for sure, I think. OK, all right, I got hit.
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  Somebody said I. It said I listened to like 89
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  genres of music. There's no, there's not even 89
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  genres of music. I would, I would argue that
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  there's maybe not even 12 genres of music.
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  What are 889? Come on.
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  Do I get to see like the list? Yeah, so I just clicked through
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  all this nonsense. So tap a few in.
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  How how many minutes did you listen to?
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  Oh, I'll go back. I listened to 13130 songs.
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  Who's your top artist? That's what I really want to
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  know. Listen to 896 artists this year.
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  Yeah, Morgan Wallin called it. Well done #2 Zac Brown Band man.
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  Just full on full on country mode this.
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  Year #3 Luke Combs OK full on country mode.
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  By the way, I think I'm going to Luke Combs in May.
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  That guy's the freaking man. Can't wait for that side note.
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  Yeah, this probably could have waited off here, but you're
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  talking about going to see somebody.
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  Did I mention going to see brigatzi?
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  Are you? In February?
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  He's coming to the freaking Patriot Center.
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  I should have taken advantage of it when he was here.
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  I knew I should have done that. I'm so jealous, Nate.
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  Brigatzi's the man, too. He's like 15 minutes down the
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  road. It's going to be sweet.
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  Anyway, I'm. Going to drop a name?
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  People don't know #4 Nikko Moon. You know Nikko Moon?
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  I do. I think he does a He does a
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  song. He's more like he's like a he's
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  more like a it's not like traditional country at all.
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  Yeah, it's like an island boating kind of kind of country.
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  Yeah. He does a song with who's who
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  does the song. Good time.
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  Yeah, with he does that. With somebody.
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  I thought is that it's not Luke. I think that's just him.
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  This was somebody else anyway. I just wanted to see.
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  I just want to get a a rough feel for where you're at. #5
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  Zach, Bryan This is a clean sweep country.
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  Top five for me. Well, we we only really need to
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  talk about the one. It's NFNF every year.
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  Like back-to-back now? I knew that that I have been.
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  I listen to more than just country, by the way.
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  The top percent I got, I got hit with an e-mail from Spotify,
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  said your Spotify for podcasters available.
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  So I pulled some screen grabs from that about the the pod,
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  about the three O take the show that you are currently listening
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  to. It said our top episode was as
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  you would expect, the hot takes and predictions episode for
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  2023. And it was really interesting
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  because it said a a good percentage of people start, the
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  good percentage of the new listener started with that.
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  They went back to hot takes and that's where they yeah, they
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  were like, all right this is where we're going to hop on
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  board And then they just wrote it out.
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  It said our said we are streamed in 18 countries, 86% of those
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  streams coming from the US. Shout out, shout out America, 18
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  countries that couldn't tell you who it is.
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  I would imagine Canada so sick. We know Australia.
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  Mexico's maybe maybe we got a little Mexico action going in
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  Mexico. I thought it was funny.
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  It said our top our listeners, top podcast genres were sports,
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  comedy and news, which is so like it's it's such a perfect
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  representation of sports fans. I feel like in order to get away
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  from the messiness and just the crap that life throws your way,
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  you're going to look for a distraction.
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  And naturally, our listeners are going to sports first and
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  foremost. Right.
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  And then they go to comedy. For sure, for a little, little
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  Comic Relief. And then they're like, all
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  right, well, if I don't once. Once those two things are out of
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  picture, then I guess I'll turn to the news.
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  So shout out for you guys. For.
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  Stick your head in the sand. So I think what that tells me is
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  that our our listeners are extremely intelligent and tapped
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  in. Speaking of Tapped In, it said
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  our top fans listened, which I feel like the people that listen
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  know who they are. Like I've had people messaging
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  me today with this whole Spotify rap thing.
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  They've tagged us in the stories tagging like the Top Five
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  podcast. Love that, by the way.
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  That gets me hyped. You know who you are, says our
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  top fans listen to the pod 3.4 times more than the other
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  listeners. So.
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  Wow. Shout out you guys.
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  Love you guys. Love you guys.
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  Let's go. That's dope.
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  Big fan of that. Switching Gears of baseball,
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  though, What I'm not a fan of. And you and I were talking about
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  it briefly before we hopped on this whole this whole state of
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  the offseason that we're in. Just everything about it.
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  Everything about it. The let's let's just run through
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  the list here. The national reporters that fuel
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  all of this, the people on social media that just eat every
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  bit of it up instead of choosing to do something productive with
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  their day, they're buying into all these reports that are
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  conflicting, by the way. Yep, just the overall
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  inactivity. I saw a meme the other day where
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  it was a, in fact, I may have even post it to our Facebook.
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  It was a meme of like those two Doge dogs and it's like you know
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  it's like the big jacked one and then the one that's like over in
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  the corner crying and it's the one on the the the jacked one is
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  the NFL the NBA and it's about free agency.
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  It says all our big free agents signed first day no time for
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  rumors you've already signed Bob.
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  And then over in the corner it's just the the dog crying in the
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  corner with the MLB logo on it says we might wait until March
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  to sign this team is interested but so are 15 other teams.
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  Heyman says yes. Ken says no.
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  Bob doesn't know pass and hasn't tweeted in two months.
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  I. Hate this part of the year dude.
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  And I I especially cannot stand these reporters who if you know
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  anything about what's going on with social media you you will
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  know that a lot of these platforms now couple of them for
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  a while but X or Twitter especially, and I'm not saying
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  that this is across the board but this is more for like the
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  the middle tier not not the big name reporters.
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  I don't think they, they couldn't care less, but Twitter
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  X specifically has the premium service now.
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  It's where you can sign up. You get the blue check mark
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  verification and if you reach a certain impressions threshold,
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  you then enter in what they call the ad revenue sharing, you
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  know, program, process, whatever, and do.
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  You get a cut each month and it's completely flipped upside
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  down. Journalism coverage, news.
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  Just about clicks. It's all about clicks.
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  It's even outside of sports. It's just posting the most
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  erroneous sensationalist things you can think of just to drive
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  clicks, just to drive impressions.
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  And there's so many of these reporters on I use reporters in
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  quotes. There's like mid, no name people
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  that are like, Yep, I can confirm this.
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  My sources tell me that this is this is that.
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  This is this. Yeah, nobody knows what they're
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  talking about. And I'm just tired of people
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  eating it up and like, they're pulling, they're pulling hair
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  because like, Oh my God, my my team's not going to get this guy
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  because Johnny No Nuts said that his sources confirmed it.
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  Just wait until March. The people that fall for this
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  are the people that just are like they refuse to create their
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  own opinion. Refuse.
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  And it's one thing if you listen to podcasts or if you read
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  articles and your opinion changes.
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  It's another thing if you can't even create your own opinion, or
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  if it just falls in line with whatever you're reading that
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  day. It's just like, have an original
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  thought. So This is why social media
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  sucks. Social media is the worst.
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  Dude. I hate it.
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  Would that be so bad? Yeah, Dwight, It would have a
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  thought. Have an original thought.
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  I saw a tweet today. I I need to pull it up.
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  It's it's this. He doesn't have Tourette's, by
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  the way. Guys, that's just an office
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  quote. Any newbies Just an office get.
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  Used to it, yeah. I'm not.
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  I'm not like schizophrenic. I'm not talking to people that
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  aren't here. It's just I recognize that it's
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  just Nate and myself. This right here, it actually
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  can't it. It was posted today perfectly
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  summarizes the state of modern journalism Andy Martino, who's
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  been getting a lot of love recently.
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  Mets guy, right? Mets guy says.
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  And I quote the Mets are active. In fact, they are close to
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  acquiring a player, not star level.
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  But I don't have the name at present.
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  I think any, any TN reporter could tweet that at any moment
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  right now and be correct. That's what that's what I'm
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  saying it's it's just throwing stuff at the wall, seeing what
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  sticks. And if it lands, then you look
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  like a genius. But even at this point, it's so
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  watered down that you really don't.
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  So do you just have people throwing stuff at the wall?
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  So these cliques, do these reporters like get paid from X
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  technically if they have like their premium account?
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  That's why I was saying I I'm I'm not necessarily talking
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  about guys like passing like, I don't know because they're legit
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  guys in the industry. I don't know if there's like a a
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  higher tier where that I honestly, I just don't know how
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  it works entirely. But I'm saying like if if first
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  thing off the top of my head, if a Red Sox fan with 1000
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  followers decide he he wakes up tomorrow and goes, you know
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  what, I want to get in on this rumor about Shohei possibly
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  coming to Boston. I'm going to sign up for X and
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  then he gets on there, gets the verification badge, and then he
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  goes out and tweets sources close to me indicate that Shohei
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  was seen in Boston. You you can just throw out the
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  most, like unbearable things. Just say.
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  Straight up Lie Shohei was seen by a bystander in Logan Airport.
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  Sources confirm that a deal is possible, the most arbitrary
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  vague nonsense you've ever heard in your life.
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  And people are eating it up. And then they get the clicks,
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  they get the the, the repost, the likes, and then just blows
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  up. And then people lose their minds
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  over it. And it's just idiots arguing
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  with each other in the comment section, Just driving the
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  numbers up. And then you get a freaking an
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  Angels fan with 1000 followers that also woke up that same day
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  and decided no, I'm going to start pushing this narrative
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  that Shohei is coming back to the Angels.
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  And then he puts out a tweet that says sources confirm that
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  no, no imminent deal to Boston has been confirmed and and is
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  rather unlikely. I saw, I saw a post today that
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  John Hayman literally went on the Bleacher Report stream like
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  we did a number of months back, and he was talking about how
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  show hey to Boston is a possibility.
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  And this this came four hours after a report was circulating
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  on Twitter talking about how the Red Sox were out on show.
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  Hey, I know I keep going in circles here and I I'm just
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  beating a dead horse. But I'm.
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  I'm just so tired of it, dude. I'm tired of seeing.
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  I don't think I've ever had an offseason where I've.
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  I've read the words eyeing more than I have this offseason.
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  Team X is eyeing Player Y. What does that even mean?
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  All, of course. Every every one of the 30 teams
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  in Major League Baseball, at some degree at some level, is
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  eyeing a player. Whether that means they're
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  looking to acquire them via trade, via free agency signing,
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  or they're eyeing one of their own players to push away, to
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  push out of the organization because they're punting on
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  2024-2025. And so on and so forth.
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  So you telling me that a team is looking at a player that means
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  absolutely nothing to me. And like I, like I put out
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  today, National Baseball reporters at one point or
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  another told us that Aaron Judge was a Giant, Carlos Correa was a
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  Giant, Carlos Correa was a Met, Max Scherzer was a Padre, and
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  Michael Brantley was a Blue Jay. So forgive me if I'm not eating
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  every last word up before pen has been put to paper.
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  That's all. That's all I'm going to say.
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  I'm done with with my rant, so. Feel better?
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  No. Still still pissed, but it's all
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  right. Let me ask you a question.
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  Do you miss the days of being a football fan?
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  I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm watching football, like, rather casually.
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  But sure, I'm not like. Like an actual fan.
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  Like fantasy football type fan. Like enough to where you'd be
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  into it to play fantasy football.
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  Because I tell you what, if we're talking about from this
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  perspective, Absolutely. Because.
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  That's what I'm saying. I don't care ESPN they talk
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  about or they talk about football on ESPN and pretty much
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  every other platform, literally year round.
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  And there's no fluff. There's no, like, well, let's
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  just get to this point in the year and then it really picks
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  up. It's all year.
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  Baseball doesn't have that luxury.
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  No, it doesn't. But what I was going to say is I
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  don't care. I'm not reading rumors.
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  I'm not paying attention to anything.
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  I'm not falling for this. This Yankees are talking Soto
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  package. I'm not falling for it.
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  I think it's because of football.
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  I'm like, I'm dialed in by the way, I won that survivor pool.
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  No big deal. 62 people with a $25 buy in.
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  You do the math. I won that puppy.
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  The survivor pool. Yeah, you pick one winner each
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  week and you can't pick the same team twice, OK?
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  So your boy went 12 and O. Well done, Sir.
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  Yeah, good chunk of change. Good chunk of change.
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  Yeah, fantasy teams in second place.
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  It's nice. All I'm saying is that it's nice
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  to have that an outlet to your outlet.
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  That's kind of nice. That's a good point, you.
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  Make you need fishing, skateboarding, knitting, You big
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  knitter. Crochet, actually.
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  OK, get some of that going. I need.
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  Yeah, I think you're right. Honestly, this is like the
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  premier football time for me. I really, I mean football fans
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  too. But like, especially me because
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  I typically don't really tune into football until the start of
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  December because I want to. I want to get caught up on like
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  you know where the the storylines heading into the into
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  the playoffs and then obviously I watched the playoffs Super
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  Bowl and all that but and then college football too.
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  Like I'm I'm big into the college football scene.
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  So it's this is. I think the timing of this has
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  worked out just great because I am at absolute wit's end with.
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  Yeah, I believe I can tell baseball.
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  I can tell I'm just done with it.
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  It's also I I don't have access to MLB Network right now because
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  I have. YouTube TV and part of me is
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  just like just super. It's kind of nice being super
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  unplugged from baseball. I've told you you can access MLB
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  Network through the through the MLB app.
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  Anymore. We used to be able to.
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  I don't. Oh, like on the app, I can do it
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  on my phone, but I can't do it on my iPad.
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  Oh, oh, OK. I can't do it on my desktop or
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  anything. Any access.
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  I was like, no, you can at least do it on your phone.
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  Yeah, but like, who watches something on their phone?
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  You do all the time. I'm I can't I multitask?
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  I need my phone to multitask to what I'm watching.
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  Yeah, they do. The little picture in picture
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  thing, it turns into like a small TV on your screen.
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  You can slide it around wherever you want.
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  That's fair. Let me see.
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  Anyway, I'm I'm just, I'm done with it.
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  I'm. I'm really only interested in
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  talking about the things that have happened, and I'm really
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  only interested in speculating on things that are of interest
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  to me, not for the sake of trying to be the first to report
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  something or get this. See, there you go.
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  There's MLB Network. Ken Burns's baseball.
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  Hey, there you go. Yeah, that right there.
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  That's the state of baseball, right?
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  Now that's what I'm saying. Hen burns baseball on MLB
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  Network right now, that's all you need.
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  You couldn't pay me to sit through that in one sitting.
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  I'm sorry, but yeah, anyway, like there there is a a part at
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  the end here I'm hoping that we can get to where we, you know
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  maybe spit ball some some spots we'd like to see you guys land
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  at. But I'm not going to sit here
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  and pretend like I've got the inside scoop because nobody has
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  the inside scoop. The only thing you hear from
• 23:43
  people are reports that are then sent or or details rather of
• 23:47
  contracts that are then sent to them to which they then push
• 23:51
  out. I mean, what are we really
• 23:54
  talking about here? All these people are
• 23:56
  legitimately claiming fake sources.
• 23:59
  They don't have sources. Not everybody, but a lot of
• 24:02
  these people who are pretending to be like like beat reporters,
• 24:08
  you just have 1000 followers and you're wearing a team's hat in
• 24:12
  your profile picture. That's it.
• 24:15
  All right, I'm done. But yeah, let's talk about the
• 24:18
  things that have happened this week.
• 24:22
  We saw Sonny Gray sign a three-year, $75 million contract
• 24:26
  with the Cardinals. How do you, how do you feel
• 24:27
  about this? As a former Sonny Gray watcher,
• 24:36
  I'll, I'll, I'll limit you to that.
• 24:38
  Yeah, I thought you were going to say admirer couldn't go that
• 24:41
  high. I wasn't going to slap you with
• 24:44
  the label of fan because I I know that that would have been
• 24:46
  pushing too far. But you you did, at one point in
• 24:49
  your baseball watching career, watch Sonny Grey.
• 24:54
  Yeah, kind of rooted for him for a SEC.
• 24:57
  I I think, to be honest with you, the, I mean the Cardinals
• 25:03
  needed this, like, more than needed this.
• 25:07
  I couldn't think of a more dire starting pitching need as far as
• 25:13
  teams go than the Cardinals. So absolutely makes sense to me.
• 25:18
  I think it's kind of a best of both worlds for Sonny Grey.
• 25:22
  Like I I think we everybody can agree he's not necessarily a
• 25:26
  spotlight guy. He's kind of like a grinky, just
• 25:30
  doesn't doesn't love being in like the big market situation
• 25:34
  constant eyes on you. So I think that's why we saw so
• 25:38
  much success in Oakland, non success the New York.
• 25:45
  Why am I forgetting where he was in the middle before Minnesota?
• 25:50
  Oh, the Reds. The Reds, yeah, fell off the
• 25:54
  radar. Twins, You basically fell off
• 25:56
  the radar, but the only reason you were talked about is because
• 25:59
  you were so good this year and the Twins managed to sneak into
• 26:03
  the post season. I think this is the best of both
• 26:06
  worlds. You get a a successful team, a
• 26:09
  storied team, a good fan base, a strong fan base.
• 26:14
  I wouldn't say necessarily. I would say one of the least
• 26:17
  hostile fan bases. Yeah, that's fair.
• 26:23
  All right, say what you will about them they They may leave
• 26:25
  early from playoff games, but they're not hostile.
• 26:29
  So I think that's a good thing for Sunny.
• 26:33
  Pause. Let me interject here, just as a
• 26:35
  heads up, my sister-in-law texted me.
• 26:38
  They do trivia. Her, her and my brother-in-law
• 26:42
  do trivia every Wednesday. And they always have an MLB
• 26:47
  round. Yeah.
• 26:48
  Do we need to speed this up so we can get an answer done in
• 26:50
  time or did they already? She just said it's coming up, so
• 26:54
  I just want to let you know in case I OK.
• 26:56
  Let's do it. Pause.
• 26:57
  We can then answer. But my thing with that is like,
• 27:00
  why you would say, well, just Google it.
• 27:03
  I mean, isn't. Reaching a baseball fan?
• 27:06
  Yeah, what do we? Yeah.
• 27:08
  Are we better than Google? I hope so.
• 27:10
  I I want to nail this thing. I mean I'm like I'm like 4 for
• 27:13
  four. A lot of that questions he's
• 27:16
  reached out to. Good for you.
• 27:18
  I'm gonna have to. I'm gonna have to address that
• 27:20
  when they're home for. Christmas.
• 27:22
  I would. I don't, I think.
• 27:23
  Legit trivia. You probably shouldn't have
• 27:25
  access to your phone. Yes, some.
• 27:27
  If you're winning, money need to be answered.
• 27:30
  Yeah, any who's. Yeah, yeah.
• 27:34
  Give me sunny Gray in there. I like it.
• 27:38
  Yeah, I mean, it could be the the deal could end up being
• 27:45
  worth 100 million over 4 years because he's got the team
• 27:50
  option. Yeah, I just don't know.
• 27:58
  My, I don't want to say my disappointment, but my thoughts
• 28:01
  on the the move aren't necessarily directed towards
• 28:04
  Sonny Gray. I think Sonny Gray obviously
• 28:06
  came off a a great year, finished second in the Cy Young
• 28:10
  race. It's more about the Cardinals in
• 28:16
  their rush to fill their rotation with guys that I just
• 28:24
  don't think that's going to. That was kind of my next point.
• 28:27
  I don't. I no matter how good of a year
• 28:30
  Sonny Graves had, I don't see somebody as an ace.
• 28:33
  I don't think other teams right now.
• 28:36
  Yeah, So I don't think they're done.
• 28:39
  What's my thought? I mean the.
• 28:42
  They have been in conversations with with Blake Snow, according
• 28:45
  to these. Stupid.
• 28:47
  Yeah, they've been 29 other teams.
• 28:49
  I agree, I agree. But what I'm saying is that
• 28:52
  there's a need for it. I I I think there's possibly a
• 28:56
  little bit of AI think this is Olli Marmos last year.
• 29:03
  I I I don't if he even gets through the year.
• 29:07
  So I think there has to be a little bit of a.
• 29:13
  You got to make this somewhat attractive for for hiring a new
• 29:16
  manager. So I could see I could, I could
• 29:21
  see a Blake Snell and and slot Sonny in the two spot.
• 29:26
  I could see it. I could see the trade for Glass
• 29:30
  now. I could, Yeah, that one I could
• 29:33
  see. I don't see Blake Snell in in
• 29:36
  Saint Louis. Apparently it can't, which you
• 29:39
  would probably be more familiar with it.
• 29:41
  You may have even have seen it live.
• 29:43
  But Mike Tirico mentioned whether he was supposed to or
• 29:49
  not. Mentioned apparently that Blake
• 29:52
  Snell had had made it known that he would love to pitch for the
• 29:59
  Mariners, which are his hometown team.
• 30:01
  Yeah, and he made he commented that on was that.
• 30:04
  I guess it was Sunday Night Football.
• 30:06
  Yeah, One of the two. Yeah, I wanted to.
• 30:09
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 30:10
  So I'm like that's that's a little interesting that that
• 30:14
  sentiment became known publicly. Yeah.
• 30:19
  And I think if you're, Yeah, that kind of opens up because
• 30:24
  there were conversations with the Cardinals, with Logan
• 30:28
  Gilbert a little bit. Weren't there some maybes mixed
• 30:33
  in during the year? I don't know if I heard that
• 30:35
  one. Maybe I'm thinking of somewhere
• 30:38
  else. I don't know.
• 30:41
  Either way I I don't think they're done.
• 30:44
  I don't think they're done. And there there is a little bit
• 30:48
  of AI. Think you're in a little bit of
• 30:51
  a sweet spot where you're in a win now mode.
• 30:54
  You get a lot of money tied up on the corners.
• 30:58
  You have a mixture of young studs that are starting to enter
• 31:02
  the scene. But you need pitching.
• 31:07
  Bad, bad, bad. Going back to the Ollie Marmot
• 31:14
  thing, I don't if if they start off sluggish through like June,
• 31:20
  May or June, I could see them shipping them out of there
• 31:24
  because the Saint Louis Cardinals of all teams, I don't
• 31:28
  think are going to be very accepting of having back-to-back
• 31:33
  flops. Yeah, like some other teams
• 31:38
  around the league would be OK with it.
• 31:39
  But you know, like, we're just in a little bit of a lull.
• 31:42
  We'll retool, we'll rebuild. But the Cardinals are going to
• 31:44
  look at this and be like this isn't.
• 31:47
  This isn't the way we do things. Especially especially in a in a
• 31:50
  division that's up for grabs every year, especially with
• 31:54
  Craig Counsel out of out of Milwaukee, this division is up
• 31:58
  for grabs. Well, I mean, he's staying in
• 32:01
  division, but. For sure, But I think Milwaukee
• 32:05
  most likely going to take a step back.
• 32:06
  And when you're the Cardinals, it's like, are you really going
• 32:09
  to let the Cubs just step in? What if they go get one of these
• 32:13
  Otani's or Yamamoto's? Or you know what if they get one
• 32:16
  of these and the new freaking top three manager like they're
• 32:21
  making strides? You're Cardinals.
• 32:24
  You have to keep up, especially when you have two potential Hall
• 32:29
  of Farmers. In the middle of your order that
• 32:32
  you're not building or supporting, go get pitching.
• 32:37
  Go make trades, Get a glass now get a Logan Gilbert.
• 32:43
  Give Ollie Marmo all the in my mind.
• 32:45
  Like, if you're going to get rid of a manager, I think you have
• 32:48
  to give him all of your efforts. Yeah, he deserves that.
• 32:52
  I agree, right? As an organization, you owe him
• 32:55
  that. Exactly.
• 32:56
  You can't tie one hand behind his back, so give him whatever
• 32:58
  he needs. This roster is close.
• 33:01
  It needs a lot, needs some love. So give that to Ollie.
• 33:06
  And like you said, if it's a slow start, you've already
• 33:09
  pushed chips in the middle of the table.
• 33:11
  You got to fill that position with somebody like a Yachti
• 33:13
  Molina Kenta Maeda, 2 year, 24 mil with deal with the Tigers.
• 33:28
  This is just a a rather bland move.
• 33:33
  I don't think we'd even be talking about this if if it
• 33:36
  wasn't November 29th, correct. But this is where we are, so
• 33:41
  we're going to talk. About Inning Eater Yeah.
• 33:47
  Yeah. I mean, when he's healthy.
• 33:49
  Healthy, I'll get up. I don't.
• 33:53
  I don't know, man. The Tigers are just in such a
• 33:56
  weird, weird spot. Hold on, we got to pause.
• 33:59
  All right, what do we got? True or false?
• 34:02
  This year's ALCS was the first to feature two teams from the
• 34:06
  same state. Was it the first?
• 34:10
  That's. First ALCS.
• 34:18
  All right. Well, let's think of the same
• 34:19
  states, same state team. So California, Florida, right
• 34:23
  away. OK.
• 34:24
  So you would have to have. Angels and A's?
• 34:30
  You'd have to have Giants or Dodgers.
• 34:34
  That's a That's NL. This is ALCS only.
• 34:36
  So what is that? There's a literally that's only
• 34:41
  A's angels, right? Yeah, that's it.
• 34:46
  I don't think that would. That sounds like an ALDS match
• 34:49
  up. Which wouldn't work.
• 34:53
  My gut says yes. Florida No, because it's just
• 34:57
  the race. No, it's just the race, Texas
• 35:01
  or. Yeah.
• 35:01
  Pennsylvania. No NL.
• 35:09
  I'd hate to say yes, but I think it's true.
• 35:15
  I'm gonna put. I think it's true because of the
• 35:18
  fact that, like, the Asher has switched within the last 15
• 35:22
  years. Oh, true.
• 35:24
  Yeah, Yeah, yeah. Oh.
• 35:25
  Yeah, It wasn't even thinking about that.
• 35:27
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just going to say true with
• 35:32
  the question. Why do I feel like we're
• 35:33
  blanking on other states? I'm like as I like scramble for
• 35:43
  the sake of speed. In my scrambled thinking I can't
• 35:46
  think of any other. You told it true.
• 35:51
  You told him true, right? Yeah.
• 35:53
  All right, hold on. I need to confirm here.
• 36:07
  Yeah, A's Angels. Not Ohio, Not Indiana.
• 36:21
  I mean Illinois. Sorry, that's literally it,
• 36:25
  dude. It's Texas and California.
• 36:28
  Perfect. Yeah, that's.
• 36:31
  Angels A's, Angels A's, Angels A's that's.
• 36:36
  Why am I picturing like hold on who was in?
• 36:40
  The early 2000s, Yeah. What was the what was their
• 36:43
  World Series run? ALCS. 03 No, it was O2.
• 36:50
  The A's Yeah. World Series O2.
• 36:54
  The Angels. Division Series, Division Series
• 36:57
  in O3 is for us, right? Or no.
• 37:01
  O 4. Go ahead, keep going.
• 37:06
  No, I was just figuring out. I was seeing who they, who they
• 37:09
  beat the ALCS in O2 in the World Series run.
• 37:12
  It was the twins. I think we're good.
• 37:15
  I mean, I think we're like way, way back in the day, but who
• 37:18
  knows? The angels were more like, oh,
• 37:22
  they were good in like. When they go the World Series,
• 37:24
  06 angels, yeah, no, it's O2. That's what I said.
• 37:30
  That's the year they won. Oh, I was talking about the A's
• 37:32
  when you when you said O2. Oh no, no.
• 37:36
  I was talking with the Angels, 'cause that's what I was looking
• 37:38
  up. The A's?
• 37:40
  They didn't face the A's in that in that O2 season, right?
• 37:43
  So in the in the postseason run. Yeah, that's what I was that
• 37:49
  thought. That's what we were looking up.
• 37:52
  Well, the only thing we're looking up is the ALCS and I
• 37:54
  just said it was a twins. Oh, I didn't hear that part O2
• 38:04
  with like, oh oh, let's play a fun game.
• 38:10
  Give me David Eckstein. Give me Tim Salmon.
• 38:13
  Wait, hold on, hold on. Now why is it saying that the AL
• 38:18
  Division series in O2? Oh right, no, sorry.
• 38:24
  I know. Yeah, it was a twins and A's
• 38:26
  individual. Jim Edmonds Maybe not Jim
• 38:33
  Edmonds. Old Jimmy could have been in
• 38:36
  Saint Louis around that time. Jose Molina Benji.
• 38:48
  Benji. Oh, Jose was on the team.
• 38:51
  OK, he was. He was also on the team.
• 38:53
  Cool, cool, cool, cool. Who was the pitcher?
• 39:06
  Who was the pitcher? John Lackey.
• 39:12
  John Lackey was on the team, yes.
• 39:14
  All right, I'm running. I'm running low here.
• 39:25
  Oh, I know one of these outfielders.
• 39:29
  You know one of these outfielders feel.
• 39:33
  Like I got Garrett, Anderson. Anderson already, right?
• 39:36
  Oh, you did? Yeah, that's what I was thinking
• 39:37
  of. Yeah.
• 39:38
  Yeah. Kind of feel like he was slept
• 39:39
  on, man. Yeah, I liked.
• 39:41
  I liked his swing a lot. Darren Urstadt.
• 39:44
  Erstadt. Dang it.
• 39:45
  I knew that you got. There's one more picture I
• 39:49
  should know, isn't there? Is Gonye?
• 39:57
  I don't think he was ever with the Angels.
• 39:58
  I thought it was just the Dodgers.
• 40:01
  I swore Kanye was an Angel. No, no, you.
• 40:05
  I think you're right, man. We're really going off the trail
• 40:08
  here. We're really going with some
• 40:11
  recall. Nah, he was just for the
• 40:17
  Dodgers, Dodgers and Rangers and.
• 40:19
  Then Boston. Then Milwaukee.
• 40:21
  Yeah, Dang. It was the closer I'm thinking
• 40:26
  of then. OK, Rod.
• 40:31
  Yeah, I knew there's a big, big closer there.
• 40:35
  All right, Troy. Troy Glaus, you've run out of.
• 40:38
  Time. I'm going to just read off some
• 40:39
  of these Troy Glaus, Troy Percival, Troy Percival, Jared
• 40:43
  Washburn, Yeah. Scott Shields, Yeah.
• 40:50
  Adam Kennedy, Scott Spezio. Oh, Scott, Spezio.
• 40:55
  Tim. Salmon.
• 40:55
  Craziest little goatee thing. Little That thing was wild.
• 41:01
  Tim Salmon. Brad Falmer I got salmon.
• 41:07
  Sean Figgins. That's a name I even heard.
• 41:10
  Yeah, I could have got that one if I sat on that a little
• 41:14
  longer. Wait a minute, Clay Bellinger.
• 41:19
  That's not. Yeah, that's Dad.
• 41:21
  Is it really? Yeah.
• 41:23
  Dad was a Yankee in like 98, I think. 99 Two 1099 2001 Yeah,
• 41:32
  there's with the Angels and O2. Yeah, a two time World Series
• 41:36
  champ and he played for. Yeah, barely.
• 41:41
  How many games this guy play. He played 183 games and won two
• 41:46
  World Series. That's a wow.
• 41:49
  That's a baby. That's a story to dive into on
• 41:52
  another day, anyway, we, I think it's a firefighter out here, by
• 41:55
  the way. No kidding.
• 41:57
  Yeah, Paige went to the same school, same high school.
• 42:03
  Nice, Billy. Anyway, back to the Tigers.
• 42:09
  Yes, the Yeah man, I don't know that.
• 42:16
  Every, every couple years here it it's the same cycle.
• 42:19
  I I do what I can to give the benefit of the doubt.
• 42:22
  I try to get high on a couple of these teams, try to give him,
• 42:26
  give him a little bit of a push, little bit of a bump and then
• 42:28
  they just let me down. And the Tigers were that team
• 42:32
  for me coming out of the Ali. Holy crap, I forgot you even
• 42:35
  backed them. I forgot you were even.
• 42:37
  I really did when I when they brought Hinch over.
• 42:42
  Torkelson got me excited. And not to say that some of
• 42:45
  these guys aren't worth getting excited over, but I think
• 42:48
  Torkelson will find success. Yeah, I see that coming
• 42:54
  eventually. Give him a couple more years.
• 42:56
  And who? Knows.
• 42:57
  Like maybe, maybe it's not to say that they're going to do
• 43:00
  anything of note this year, but I I I may have to.
• 43:04
  I think I maybe should have suspended my support for them
• 43:08
  until they cut ties with Miggy, because I think.
• 43:11
  I think you're gonna see a new Tigers culture now that we've
• 43:16
  kind of parted ways with Miggy. I mean nothing but respect for
• 43:20
  Miggy. But we need to, we need to.
• 43:22
  That needed to happen. We need to move on now.
• 43:25
  So, I mean, who knows, maybe maybe they'll, they'll spark up
• 43:31
  a little buzz again. That needed to happen.
• 43:34
  Yeah, and you guys need to, like, pan out more.
• 43:38
  Yeah, they need you guys to show up.
• 43:41
  I'll have to say Maeda, I I think a a good pick up, but it's
• 43:45
  not it's not really rocking the boat here.
• 43:47
  It's not really moving the needle but when he's when he's
• 43:50
  good he's he's on but not a innings either the way I thought
• 43:55
  he was. Yeah, didn't play last year in
• 44:01
  his age, 33 season. In 20/21, he had 21 starts.
• 44:06
  Year before he had 11, but that's 2020, so that doesn't
• 44:09
  count. He's 35 this year.
• 44:18
  He's. Yeah, this is tough.
• 44:24
  Just eat innings, dude. Just stay healthy and eat
• 44:27
  innings. That's what this team needs
• 44:29
  someone to stay healthy. Let me I was curious because
• 44:32
  when I saw that number I was like 24 mil.
• 44:35
  I'm it's not earth shattering. But I wondered.
• 44:41
  I wanted to see what he's earned to this point in his career
• 44:44
  because that seemed like, seemed like a good chunk of change.
• 44:47
  You know, for two years. Yeah, 24 mil. 24 mil That's an
• 44:55
  overpay. That's Hey, we're Detroit.
• 44:58
  And we're nothing near competitive overpay.
• 45:02
  Can you please come here and pitch which?
• 45:03
  Is the only way to explain, or it's the only reason that
• 45:08
  explains why he would have signed this early?
• 45:10
  Like, yeah, exactly. Why would you want to go to
• 45:13
  Detroit? Yeah, someone someone was smart,
• 45:16
  I think it over in Detroit and just been like, let's offer him
• 45:20
  now and give him a top dollar now.
• 45:24
  Who knows man, Maybe E Rod got in his ear and was like, hey
• 45:27
  man. I I turned down going to LA for
• 45:30
  this place. Let me tell you why you need to
• 45:33
  come. Let me tell you about D Town.
• 45:37
  Kenta Maeda, to this point in his career, has earned He's only
• 45:47
  been around. He's only been around six years,
• 45:50
  seven years. He didn't start pitching the big
• 45:54
  leagues till he's 28. He made 25 mil with the Dodgers
• 46:03
  contract. Well, that's over.
• 46:06
  Oh, Yikes. Never mind that's that's over 8
• 46:08
  years. Oh, interesting.
• 46:15
  Yeah, I I was just curious. I didn't know what it how it
• 46:17
  compared to his. Any idea what the rest of that
• 46:19
  rotation looks like? Is Casey Ma is still a thing?
• 46:23
  You know, I looked at, I was trying to do a little more
• 46:26
  research into. When his like expected return is
• 46:30
  and and some of the reports I was reading his name wasn't even
• 46:33
  mentioned. But then I, I dug a little more
• 46:35
  and said that he's resuming. I think back in September he
• 46:39
  started resuming or he got ramped up a little bit with the
• 46:46
  throwing program. So I mean usually the throwing
• 46:50
  program, you're not, you're on the right track, you're not too
• 46:53
  far out. So I mean.
• 46:56
  At some point, I would imagine, but as of right now, Tariq
• 47:01
  Scooble, Matt Manning, Reese Olson, So what?
• 47:09
  Nothing to get excited about. I don't even, Yeah.
• 47:16
  And the Tigers at this point, are not in a place to be like,
• 47:19
  whoa, go out and get a, go out and get a.
• 47:23
  Well, sure, he's not throwing, but you know.
• 47:26
  Go out and get a Yamamoto. That's not.
• 47:28
  I know that. I know you're done with the old,
• 47:34
  the whole Astros thing, and I won't pick on this too much.
• 47:38
  I know you're over it. I know that we really wish that
• 47:45
  there was a some kind of consequence that Astros players
• 47:51
  felt for what they did. Dude, I think AJ Hinch is like,
• 48:01
  kind of in, like, baseball purgatory, dude.
• 48:03
  Like, he absolutely got handed a tough, you know, like, hey,
• 48:11
  you'll still be in baseball, but.
• 48:16
  Hope you like Detroit, Buddy. Place stinks, you know what I
• 48:21
  mean? Like, I think that there's
• 48:23
  there's some some nice justice that's happening for AJ Hinch
• 48:30
  and I don't even dislike the guy that much.
• 48:32
  I don't even think he's. I think he's a good manager,
• 48:35
  but. Hey, it's a pretty city when it
• 48:37
  snows, but that's that's about all I got going for him because
• 48:41
  the Lions are good this year. Yeah, that and I got Eminem.
• 48:45
  So yeah, not all bad, but yeah, not not a great place to be if
• 48:52
  you're Hinch. Like I said, especially at this
• 48:54
  point, I would have thought that they would have sniffed some
• 48:56
  level of I know. Success at this point, but guys
• 49:00
  need to start showing up. Javi Baez like OK, you and
• 49:06
  Giancarlo Stanton need to get together and go to therapy on
• 49:08
  like accepting change and try something new.
• 49:13
  Did you see, Speaking of Javi Baez, did you see that, that
• 49:17
  trade proposal floating around? One for one Trevor Story, Javi
• 49:22
  Baez? That's where we're at.
• 49:27
  To revisit my rant at the beginning, that's where we're
• 49:30
  at. In baseball is we're floating
• 49:32
  around trade proposals that involve only not as pieces, only
• 49:38
  Javi Baez and Trevor Story. That's where we're at.
• 49:42
  If that happened, you you would have to be so pissed if that
• 49:45
  happened, right? Really.
• 49:50
  No, I would absolutely be pissed.
• 49:52
  But like I, I've learned pissed. I'd much rather have Trevor
• 49:57
  Stewart. Oh, absolutely.
• 49:58
  No, no, no. But I'm just saying I've, I've,
• 50:00
  I've had to force myself to get to a point, to just.
• 50:04
  Roll with the punches. Because what?
• 50:06
  What good is that? I'm telling you, man, that would
• 50:10
  make me happy. That Xander ordeal that nearly
• 50:14
  broke me. So if I hear that, I can.
• 50:17
  Bounce back from that, sign Tommy Pham.
• 50:20
  Sign Manny Machado. Sign.
• 50:22
  Sign all these guys and I'm like eh, about.
• 50:24
  I'm going to be honest. I'm Marcus Stroman.
• 50:26
  Whatever. This is like when, like Jeter
• 50:29
  kind of had like, his woes in the in the late like 2000s, You
• 50:37
  know what I mean? Like preteens, late 2000s, where
• 50:40
  like just a little bit of questionable rumors and stuff.
• 50:45
  He might go elsewhere, if that. If Jeter went somewhere else, I
• 50:50
  think it's equivalent to this. I think it's equivalent to
• 50:54
  Xander leaving where he was. He should have spent the rest of
• 50:58
  his career. He should have been a lifer.
• 51:00
  He should have his number retired there.
• 51:03
  I get it. I see why it hurts.
• 51:06
  Trust me, I enjoy the hurt in my own selfish, sick ways.
• 51:13
  I'm enjoying this. But at the same time I'm also
• 51:19
  miserable so. That's the thing I just miss
• 51:24
  feeling that, like genuine hatred for another team.
• 51:26
  I just I'm. Yeah, I'm just kind of numb at
• 51:29
  this point and this offseason is not really helping, but it's
• 51:32
  getting older. It's still early, though.
• 51:34
  That's going to be a part of it too.
• 51:36
  I don't know. Speaking of Speaking of the
• 51:42
  Yankees, now former Yankee Luis Severino, just within hours of
• 51:53
  us hopping on. It was announced that he is
• 51:56
  heading to the Mets on a one year, $13 million deal.
• 52:00
  It's only 29, and he will be joining the Mets, who have
• 52:07
  already announced that they're not competing in 2024, which if
• 52:14
  you're doing the math at home, is the season that Severino will
• 52:18
  be pitching for them. So.
• 52:20
  Really just a move to fill a slot in the rotation at this
• 52:26
  point, because you've already told you, you've already made it
• 52:31
  known to your fan base that none of this matters.
• 52:34
  So really this is just an opportunity for him to bet on
• 52:37
  himself a little bit maybe. Yeah, get that payday that he's
• 52:41
  looking for on the other side of it.
• 52:42
  But big time. Big time.
• 52:46
  I'm so there's a list of players.
• 52:48
  There's a list of like former Yankees that are just dead to
• 52:52
  me. You know what I mean?
• 52:55
  Like Josh Donaldson, like Jacoby Ellsberry, You know what I'm
• 53:03
  saying? Like those those types, Joey
• 53:05
  Gallo, those types of players, they're just dead to me.
• 53:09
  I'd I I've blacked out on the fact that you were ever a
• 53:12
  Yankee, right? You don't have a soft spot in
• 53:15
  your heart for Joey Gallo. I don't, no.
• 53:19
  Tough. No, because it it's just it
• 53:22
  never should have happened. I don't blame him.
• 53:24
  I'm just like, you're like, whatever.
• 53:26
  I don't even that's out of my brain.
• 53:29
  I'm going to grow old and I'm going to forget that you were
• 53:33
  ever a Yankee. Luis Severino is absolutely not
• 53:39
  on that list. Luisa, I can't.
• 53:42
  I hope he does well. I'm rooting for that guy.
• 53:45
  I really want to do. Quite a turn of events, I was
• 53:47
  not. I didn't think you're going
• 53:49
  this, you like that. I really, really, really like
• 53:52
  him. I think he's awesome.
• 53:54
  And I think it was a it was a mutual things equivalent of an A
• 53:59
  mutual breakup. Both parties know exactly, hey,
• 54:04
  I need to go my separate way, and Luisa Everino couldn't stay
• 54:08
  healthy, but when he when he when he was healthy, that dude's
• 54:12
  good, That guy's good, that guy's got juice, and if you can
• 54:18
  go figure some stuff out, I think he will get a payday.
• 54:23
  And I love this. You stay in New York, you stay
• 54:27
  relevant enough. You're still on the map, right?
• 54:30
  You're not off the map. For a team that has no pressure,
• 54:38
  it's a perfect. It's a perfect fit.
• 54:40
  I love it. I'm rooting for him.
• 54:42
  I hope he does well. I hope he doesn't let too much
• 54:48
  met on him, if that makes sense, because I think he'll he could
• 54:54
  be. Who knows, dude.
• 54:55
  This is the kind of guy like if he stays healthy and catches
• 54:58
  heat, a contender will absolutely trade for him next
• 55:03
  year, will absolutely slot him in.
• 55:06
  If that guy is moving well and doing his thing and slots right
• 55:11
  in as A34 starter, he's going to contender.
• 55:16
  If he's if he's well. So I hope he is and I hope he
• 55:21
  goes in and gets what he deserves.
• 55:24
  The Yankees, you know, couldn't keep him healthy as much as he
• 55:26
  couldn't stay healthy. I think there's a lot of the
• 55:28
  Yankees not being able to keep him healthy.
• 55:31
  I hate our training staff. Obviously there no clue what's
• 55:35
  going on. Breaking news, The Mets and Joey
• 55:43
  Wendell are in agreement on a contract.
• 55:47
  Cool. Anyway, the the name that I want
• 55:56
  to just talk briefly about, because I mean one of the top
• 56:00
  names out there. But really, not much to discuss
• 56:03
  as we've alluded to already. But Yamamoto?
• 56:09
  Things we do know about Yamamoto.
• 56:11
  He was just named the MVP over there in Japan.
• 56:17
  Won it for the third time. Third.
• 56:19
  Third straight actually. Little note here, It joins
• 56:23
  Ichiro Suzuki and Hisashi Yamada as the only players to win the
• 56:28
  MVP three years in a row. So correct?
• 56:34
  Yes, that's worth noting. Went 16 and six with a 121 and
• 56:40
  then a WHIP of .884 and 23. When you read it out loud, it
• 56:45
  just hits different. You know, I'm it.
• 56:53
  It's worth, It's worth. Reminding the listeners, 'cause
• 56:57
  I believe I've said this before. I think I'm at a place now where
• 57:01
  the whole overseas thing does not bother me anymore.
• 57:04
  Now that we've gotten Shohei and I know we've crossed this
• 57:07
  bridge. Yeah, yeah, Shohei.
• 57:09
  Is certainly Unicorn. I understand that.
• 57:12
  But for the longest time, I just really struggled to wrap my head
• 57:16
  around the fact that a guy could come over from Japan or
• 57:21
  elsewhere, mostly typically Japan.
• 57:25
  And succeed the way that they were projected to.
• 57:29
  I was just like, it's just a different world over here, but
• 57:32
  we've seen as of late that guys can come over here and and
• 57:37
  settle in just fine. So aside from the fact that we
• 57:41
  know that this guy is just unreal and dices over there, I'm
• 57:47
  genuinely excited to see where he ends up.
• 57:50
  And I am too. A little biased 'cause I know
• 57:52
  the socks are in on the mix a little bit, but I know the Yanks
• 57:55
  are in too, so I'm about it as well.
• 57:58
  Oh, well, I was gonna. I'm glad you brought that up
• 58:01
  because I saw the report that said.
• 58:04
  And please tell me that you didn't fall for this.
• 58:08
  I saw the report that the Yankees were, quote saving #18
• 58:16
  Oh yeah, Yamamoto for over the last year.
• 58:19
  My question to you is, Nate, do you by chance remember an
• 58:27
  individual name? Andrew Benintendi.
• 58:31
  I do. I do remember do.
• 58:33
  You by chance remember what number he was?
• 58:35
  I remember him wearing 18. Yeah.
• 58:38
  And do you by chance remember the fact that the Yankees last
• 58:43
  free agency, which was a year ago, right?
• 58:49
  Offered him a four year contract to presumably wear #18 for the
• 58:57
  Yankees, but I'm being told that they've been saving this for
• 59:00
  over a year even though they offered him him Andrew
• 59:06
  Benintendi, a four year contract last offseason.
• 59:09
  So is this or is this not the worst attempt at PR?
• 59:17
  We've ever seen. I need to confirm.
• 59:26
  Yeah, he's 23 now. OK, I was just curious.
• 59:34
  It's a bad attempt. It's it's a bad attempt.
• 59:37
  It's horrendous. It's what it is.
• 59:39
  It's tough. I could see not over a year and
• 59:43
  a half. I could see this being an in
• 59:45
  season decision when you started seeing guys come up and you know
• 59:51
  like names that are probably going to be a piece of the
• 59:54
  future, like an Austin Wells. I could see that being a
• 59:58
  situation where they were like, yes, sorry, we're going to save
• 1:00:02
  it because Cashman was over there.
• 1:00:06
  He watched Yamamoto throw no hitter.
• 1:00:09
  Yeah. No, I.
• 1:00:10
  So he was like he was there. So I I think the scouting has
• 1:00:14
  been there. But I'm not buying into the to
• 1:00:17
  the number thing. You could try this as much as
• 1:00:19
  you want. I thrive on those stories.
• 1:00:23
  I thrive on GM's going to players Thanksgiving dinner to
• 1:00:30
  try and get him to sign. I eat that stuff up and it's old
• 1:00:34
  school. And that's the stuff we grew up
• 1:00:36
  here in. That's what Theo did with Curt
• 1:00:38
  Schilling Old School to his house on Thanksgiving in Wild.
• 1:00:42
  That's what I'm saying. I thrive on those stories.
• 1:00:45
  I freaking love those. I'll eat those up any chance I
• 1:00:48
  get. As much as this is trying to be
• 1:00:50
  one of those stories, it's not so nice try.
• 1:00:56
  But this is what the Yankees are at now.
• 1:00:58
  This is what we have to do. You can't just be the Yankees.
• 1:01:02
  You have to come up with this cute little crap and try to make
• 1:01:06
  it seem romantic. Yeah, I just want to touch on it
• 1:01:11
  briefly because like I said, there's everybody and their
• 1:01:15
  mother is in on this guy. So I'm not going to sit here and
• 1:01:18
  and speculate about contract projections and where the best
• 1:01:25
  fit is. But I did want to ask you
• 1:01:27
  though, maybe him and maybe a few other names.
• 1:01:32
  Where would outside of New York, where do you think he would be a
• 1:01:37
  great fit at? Probably San Francisco.
• 1:01:42
  I think that's the the biggest fit for me.
• 1:01:47
  I think San Francisco is. We've said this before, like
• 1:01:50
  obviously they were right there with Aaron Judge.
• 1:01:54
  They were right there with Correa, like they are thirsty to
• 1:02:00
  switch things up. They are absolutely thirsty,
• 1:02:03
  almost desperate. So I very much could see that
• 1:02:08
  happening. Yeah, Then it makes sense.
• 1:02:15
  Yeah, I did. I I saw a report this week,
• 1:02:17
  whether or not you want to believe it.
• 1:02:19
  I probably don't. I don't even remember who put it
• 1:02:24
  out there. But it was him, Shohei.
• 1:02:27
  And was it belly? Was it Snell?
• 1:02:35
  It said that it may have been Heyman.
• 1:02:39
  I think it was Heyman. That the Giants are getting one
• 1:02:43
  of them? No, that there were that we
• 1:02:46
  should expect them to get two of them, which I'm like, OK.
• 1:02:54
  I don't see the Ohtani thing. It's not a hitter friendly
• 1:02:58
  ballpark. It's cold, it's windy, but I
• 1:03:02
  just don't see that. I don't see him.
• 1:03:06
  I don't. They're talking about rumors of
• 1:03:08
  him playing in the outfield. I don't see him playing that
• 1:03:10
  outfield. Too big, too much going on.
• 1:03:15
  I did watch that show. Hey Doc, do.
• 1:03:17
  You like it? Very very strong.
• 1:03:19
  I really highly recommend. Yeah, I I was thinking about
• 1:03:23
  this the second you brought this up, it came into my head.
• 1:03:27
  I you you're a Family Guy, right?
• 1:03:30
  Family Guy. Guy.
• 1:03:32
  Family Guy. Guy.
• 1:03:33
  Yeah, Yeah. Well, I think it was Peter that
• 1:03:39
  went to a game. And he's like, he like sits down
• 1:03:41
  with like a hot dog and a beer and he's like nothing more
• 1:03:45
  American than sitting here and watching 9 Latinos on the field
• 1:03:48
  or whatever, right? Yeah.
• 1:03:51
  I think the word what Otani has done could get us to the point
• 1:03:58
  where like Asians and like Asian baseball could step in as like
• 1:04:02
  the next generation of like. Running Major League Baseball.
• 1:04:06
  Like having a huge. Yeah.
• 1:04:08
  Like a new Latino present. Exactly.
• 1:04:12
  Yeah. Like there.
• 1:04:14
  I think it could be that way. So I agree with you.
• 1:04:18
  I think you said it like the first statement you said was,
• 1:04:21
  you know, guys coming from Japan or Korea, like don't really make
• 1:04:25
  me nervous anymore as far as like can they translate over
• 1:04:29
  into the MLBI. Agree.
• 1:04:32
  I think that's over. And I think, like Ohtani being
• 1:04:35
  good, just being so good. And of course you have those
• 1:04:39
  other legends. Of course you have Ichiro, of
• 1:04:41
  course you have Hadaki, Matsui, Hideya, Nomo, Like, of course
• 1:04:45
  you have these names you can touch on.
• 1:04:47
  But I think now more than ever, it's like, oh, this is what it
• 1:04:51
  takes to be at the top of baseball.
• 1:04:54
  And everyone knows his name. It's doing a lot for that
• 1:04:59
  culture. It's doing a lot for guys like
• 1:05:01
  this so. I'm pumped.
• 1:05:03
  I think it's going to be, it's going to be, it's going to be
• 1:05:06
  fun to sit back and just watch this guy pitch and do his thing.
• 1:05:12
  Speaking of Shohei, one of the other reports, whether or not
• 1:05:16
  you want to believe it, said that he possibly could make a
• 1:05:19
  decision by the winter meetings, which honestly.
• 1:05:25
  That was my prediction. I thought about it and I'm like,
• 1:05:28
  if there was a guy that wasn't going to necessarily play the
• 1:05:33
  politics and and wait it. Out and I I I think you were and
• 1:05:39
  I think I gave you credit when you brought that point up.
• 1:05:41
  I think it's a very valid point where he's going to just want to
• 1:05:43
  get settled in, assuming it's a place he's going to be locked
• 1:05:47
  into for 8 plus years. I think he's just want to he's
• 1:05:53
  going to want to get settled in and he's not going to want to
• 1:05:55
  have to do a whole bunch of waiting around because you know
• 1:05:58
  he's already being. He's already being sought after.
• 1:06:03
  Like, it's not like a it's not a matter of that.
• 1:06:06
  It's just a matter of where do you want to play, how much money
• 1:06:09
  do you want to earn with this contract?
• 1:06:12
  Yeah, and let's go. That's really all I could.
• 1:06:14
  See, I never. I haven't asked you yet.
• 1:06:16
  How big of a fan are you about the whole?
• 1:06:18
  Like, hey, if you leak news about our meetings, it's going
• 1:06:22
  to count against you. Oh, I love it.
• 1:06:25
  Because I love that all these people on Facebook who clearly
• 1:06:29
  know nothing about Shohei Ohtani, they're like, what kind
• 1:06:34
  of arrogance is that to think that, like, you can control your
• 1:06:37
  narrative? I'm like, you know nothing about
• 1:06:40
  Shohei Ohtani. This has nothing to do with,
• 1:06:43
  like, trying to keep an upper hand.
• 1:06:46
  It's it's more about discretion. Discretion.
• 1:06:50
  Exactly. And and the ways in which you
• 1:06:54
  can the parties can respect one another and be like. 100% if
• 1:06:58
  you're willing to do this for me, to kind of keep it under
• 1:07:01
  wraps out of respect for me, my family, my agent, so on and so.
• 1:07:05
  Forth, I love it. Then I'll return the favor and
• 1:07:08
  do and offer you everything I can as a baseball player.
• 1:07:12
  It has nothing to do with arrogance.
• 1:07:14
  Get out of here with that narrative.
• 1:07:16
  That's a bunch of nonsense. I I I'm all about.
• 1:07:19
  I couldn't love this more. I couldn't love it more.
• 1:07:22
  I even got scared. I saw, even though I think the
• 1:07:25
  Yankees are out and I'm pretty sure this was most likely like
• 1:07:28
  Photoshopped or whatever, I saw this picture that it was like,
• 1:07:32
  you can tell it's obviously like a cell phone that took a picture
• 1:07:35
  of the big screen, like the scoreboard in Yankee Stadium and
• 1:07:39
  it had like Welcome Show hey on it.
• 1:07:42
  And it had Show Han and Yankee like uniform.
• 1:07:45
  And I knew that I was like, if that was true, that would be all
• 1:07:48
  over the place and way bigger. It was a small little account,
• 1:07:53
  had to be photoshopped. But what I'm saying is that what
• 1:07:57
  I'm saying is that I saw it and I got nervous.
• 1:08:00
  That's how much I'm bought into this thing.
• 1:08:02
  Because that this student means something.
• 1:08:04
  When he says it, he means it. No, I'm.
• 1:08:07
  So to answer your question, I'm all in.
• 1:08:09
  And I love. I love watching people have a
• 1:08:11
  field day with it. They're like sources confirm
• 1:08:14
  that Shohei was walking out of Tony's Pizza on 54th Ave. in the
• 1:08:19
  Bronx. Like, dude, just the.
• 1:08:22
  Just doing whatever they can to get something fake to blow up.
• 1:08:28
  Yeah, I'm all about it. I like it.
• 1:08:31
  I'm a fan. I Yeah, good for Shohei.
• 1:08:35
  If not either of our teams. Where do you want to see him end
• 1:08:39
  up? Shohei.
• 1:08:40
  For the sake of his career? For the sake of baseball?
• 1:08:45
  For the sake of entertainment? Where would you want to see him
• 1:08:47
  end up? Seattle Wow.
• 1:08:50
  OK. Oh, I think you've maybe you've
• 1:08:52
  hinted at that before. That would be if I got to
• 1:08:54
  choose. It would be Seattle.
• 1:08:56
  Yeah. If he wasn't a Yankee.
• 1:08:58
  Obviously I would freaking kill. And I I don't think they're in
• 1:09:01
  anyway, so it doesn't really matter.
• 1:09:04
  I would, I would say Seattle. I just, I understand like the
• 1:09:08
  shadow of Ichiro or whatever. But just like it's just they're
• 1:09:11
  in the right place. It's a perfect ballpark for
• 1:09:14
  them. I it just it checks so many
• 1:09:17
  boxes. You don't say Texas all I no no
• 1:09:26
  show hey in Texas. Although show hey, doing Texas
• 1:09:29
  would be awesome. I would watch that show any day
• 1:09:32
  of the week and he's like chicken and waffles like that
• 1:09:36
  would be show. Hey in cowboy boots.
• 1:09:38
  Need it, need it. Biscuits and gravy.
• 1:09:42
  What is this Shohei does? Biscuits and gravy.
• 1:09:45
  I would eat that up, dude. If that was a YouTube channel
• 1:09:49
  I'd watch oh, I can already see the don't mess with Shohei Texas
• 1:09:53
  themed shirts coming out. Dang, I'm kind of, I'm kind of
• 1:09:56
  getting hyped about it. I'm kind of, I'm kind of about
• 1:09:59
  it. No.
• 1:10:00
  But I what I will say is if we wait this whole time, because
• 1:10:04
  you got to remember, we went through this whole deadline
• 1:10:07
  business about is he going to get dealt?
• 1:10:09
  We've waited for a year plus knowing that this free agency
• 1:10:14
  was imminent. We've waited a year plus.
• 1:10:16
  And if it ends up being that he goes to the Dodgers, I may just
• 1:10:21
  walk away from baseball together because I'm I'm already at a
• 1:10:24
  pretty weak point with this sport right now.
• 1:10:27
  If show, hey of all people winds up with the Dodgers, I'm going
• 1:10:31
  to lose it. I'm going.
• 1:10:33
  To see that was going to be my answer if you if you asked me
• 1:10:36
  who I think. Versus who I want, I want
• 1:10:42
  Seattle. I think Lai think he's.
• 1:10:46
  I think he's going to be a Dodger.
• 1:10:52
  It's just a desperate organization right now.
• 1:10:58
  Show hey in Hollywood, think of like the whole media thing.
• 1:11:01
  Think of like outside of baseball.
• 1:11:03
  It's like the next. It's like then when we talked
• 1:11:06
  about making a show about him, dude, Like, think about show.
• 1:11:09
  Hey, in Hollywood, this is like the next Kelsey T Swift crap.
• 1:11:13
  That's what's going to We're going to get it shoved down our
• 1:11:15
  throat. We don't need it.
• 1:11:16
  No. But what was interesting and
• 1:11:18
  this all I'll say about the doc I don't want.
• 1:11:19
  To dating show Hey, That's the next show.
• 1:11:22
  Dating show Hey, no, the only thing I'll say about the doc
• 1:11:25
  because like I said, don't want to spoil it, but they they
• 1:11:27
  there's a bit in there asking him or like talking about why he
• 1:11:31
  chose the angels and nobody could figure it out.
• 1:11:33
  Why? Like his agent didn't even
• 1:11:36
  really know. There was just a lot of
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  confusion on speculation. Well yeah, hindsight.
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  But it really made me wonder. I'm like, is there something to
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  show his game that he recognizes that the attention is going to
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  be there regardless, but it's how much he wants to bring that
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  on himself And and sure, I know it's still like LA, Anaheim,
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  whatever. But that's certainly different
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  than going to the Dodgers, where you've got guys like Mookie
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  Betts there. Like, it's it's a whole, it's a
• 1:12:08
  whole different world in in in Dodger.
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  Town What about What about Chicago?
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  That's what I'm saying is like, I don't know how much.
• 1:12:19
  Craig counsel's like a low key guy.
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  He's like a low key, quiet guy. I bet him and show he would hit
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  it off. They have like the same
• 1:12:27
  demeanor. I could see Chicago I like.
• 1:12:31
  I like Seattle too. That's a good fit.
• 1:12:33
  I don't know. There's just not really a team
• 1:12:35
  that's like, really Scream. I mean, I agree.
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  I I guess by I. Can go Dodgers.
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  I can close my eyes and see a Yu, though.
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  I can see it. I can picture it.
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  I could picture him in at Fenway.
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  Bring. You know what?
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  Bring him over. We've already got Yoshida.
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  Bring over Yamamoto. Let's just let's just make.
• 1:12:58
  The know if him and Yoshida are are boys.
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  Yeah, they were on, They were on.
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  They're on the WBC, right? Yeah, they they, yeah, back in
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  back in March all. Right, so they are boys, dude.
• 1:13:11
  If you got both, that would flip the script for you real fast,
• 1:13:15
  wouldn't it dude? We could get for the Verdugo.
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  For the record, I'm already on board with the socks.
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  So on the off channel I want to, I want to clarify that because
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  if by chance they signed one of one of these two guys or both,
• 1:13:30
  you know, or both. I don't want people being like,
• 1:13:33
  oh, it's interesting how we just sat the bench last year.
• 1:13:36
  No, no, no. I had.
• 1:13:38
  I had. Many new listeners.
• 1:13:41
  He did not sit the bench. This guy was miserable, and so
• 1:13:43
  am I I had good reason, but I'm on board as it stands right now,
• 1:13:48
  just because we got Haim out of there.
• 1:13:49
  So, Craig Breslow, let's ride. I don't do what you got to do.
• 1:13:54
  Let's go get Shohei. Go get Yamamoto.
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  Let's ride. OK, that should bring us to a
• 1:14:04
  close here. Is there anything else you
• 1:14:06
  wanted to touch on? Because.
• 1:14:08
  And we can. We could speculate about
• 1:14:10
  destinations till we're blue in the face.
• 1:14:12
  But. We sure could have no interest
• 1:14:14
  in doing that. So I would imagine by the next
• 1:14:18
  time that you hear from us, one of these names at minimum will
• 1:14:23
  have come off the board. So we'll be sure to get into
• 1:14:26
  that. We've got a possible interview
• 1:14:29
  coming up next week, haven't haven't confirmed, but I think I
• 1:14:37
  think you guys will like this one.
• 1:14:39
  It's going to be going to be good if it works out, but we may
• 1:14:42
  sneak a three O change up in there between now and then and
• 1:14:46
  we'll see. Yeah, but yeah, keep keep an eye
• 1:14:50
  out. Keep an eye out for a possible
• 1:14:53
  interview next week, but other than that, you got anything
• 1:14:57
  else? Negatory.
• 1:15:01
  Negatory. Oh, I oh, last thing.
• 1:15:04
  Last thing. Go go hinting also next week at
• 1:15:10
  the start of a possible little segment idea that we are kicking
• 1:15:13
  around. We are looking for something to
• 1:15:17
  to, yeah, have in our back pocket for these offseason
• 1:15:22
  episodes, especially when things are a little slow like kind of
• 1:15:25
  like they are right now. And we I threw out the idea to
• 1:15:32
  you. You were on board with it and
• 1:15:34
  then you kind of added added a possible element to it.
• 1:15:38
  We'll we'll have to workshop it a little bit.
• 1:15:40
  But I threw out the idea of diving into some unbreakable
• 1:15:45
  records, some more noteworthy than others.
• 1:15:48
  You know like you've got your your Cal Ripken consecutive game
• 1:15:51
  streak but some others that are maybe not AS talks about such as
• 1:15:58
  a Bobby Cox ejection record career record some things like
• 1:16:03
  that. So we may pick, we may do like a
• 1:16:07
  little randomizer, little pick each week and.
• 1:16:14
  We'll we'll we'll preface it for the the week to come but might
• 1:16:21
  be something we we start off with next week we'll see but
• 1:16:24
  just want to get that on your radar.
• 1:16:26
  Love it. What were you going to say?
• 1:16:28
  Go ahead. Seems so small now.
• 1:16:32
  I was going to say we should by next year.
• 1:16:35
  Let's try to come up with three O take ornaments for the tree.
• 1:16:42
  That'd be cool. I do have a Charlie Brown tree.
• 1:16:45
  I might pop that up right there. Take away my tinfoil hat.
• 1:16:49
  I got the Christmas lights up behind me.
• 1:16:51
  So my conspiracy hat. That's what I'm working with
• 1:16:55
  right now. Let's do a change up episode
• 1:16:57
  soon. What do you say you want to you
• 1:17:02
  want to let people know what it what we're doing.
• 1:17:05
  We haven't even talked about it. But you want to.
• 1:17:07
  You just want to pick one right here, right now.
• 1:17:09
  Let's just pick one. I like that.
• 1:17:11
  You know, honestly, I mentioned it and I think you were on board
• 1:17:14
  with it and I would love to do it.
• 1:17:15
  I think it's, it just works for both of us.
• 1:17:17
  You want to do flying. You want the next one we do to
• 1:17:20
  be flying. I do.
• 1:17:22
  I do. There we go.
• 1:17:23
  That's our next change up. We're going to be talking about
• 1:17:26
  the experience of flying and all that comes with it.
• 1:17:28
  So whether or not you, if you don't, I'm going to be negative.
• 1:17:32
  I'm going to be a negative Nancy on that one, so just buckle up.
• 1:17:36
  If you don't travel, you'll get a a a little peek behind the
• 1:17:40
  curtain as to what it's like if you do travel.
• 1:17:43
  You can. You can sympathize.
• 1:17:46
  Empathize with our misery as people who who travel from time
• 1:17:50
  to time, but you more so than me.
• 1:17:52
  But I hate it a time or two. And I hate it.
• 1:17:55
  I hate it more every time I do it.
• 1:17:58
  It's quite an experience. So yeah, that'll be our next
• 1:18:01
  change up topic. Let's keep an eye out for that
• 1:18:03
  one. But other than that, that will
• 1:18:07
  do it. Don't go chasing curveballs.
• 1:18:10
  We love you all. And as always, looking forward
• 1:18:12
  to talking more baseball with you guys soon.
• 1:18:13
  Until next time, stay filthy.