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- 0:13FRPC Host Vince: What's good everybody?
- 0:14FRPC Host Vince: Welcome to Frontrunner Podcast Collective, where we talk like friends, argue like cousins, and somehow still leave smarter.
- 0:23FRPC Host Vince: I am your humble host, Vince, and I am your occasional therapist, your favorite bad influence.
- 0:31FRPC Host Vince: And here at FRPC, we unpack the wins, the mess, the middle ground with jokes, receipts, and maybe a hot take that ages very poorly.
- 0:44FRPC Host Vince: I am solo dolo today.
- 0:46FRPC Host Vince: I will be handling everything, but we got a really good pod for you today.
- 0:51FRPC Host Vince: We will be discussing the fallout of the Nico Harrison firing in Dallas, Texas, and what this means for the Mavericks as we go forward.
- 1:01FRPC Host Vince: We're also going to talk about, and excuse me if you've heard this before, we're going to talk about the historic run that the Oklahoma City Thunder are on.
- 1:13FRPC Host Vince: It is incredible.
- 1:14FRPC Host Vince: Some of the numbers are even scarier than last year, and we will get into that.
- 1:19FRPC Host Vince: Speaking of scary, uh that bad man in Denver is doing his thing once again.
- 1:25FRPC Host Vince: We will unpack the 55-point explosion by one Nicola Jokic all-inspiring.
- 1:33FRPC Host Vince: Now, because it's a feel-good Friday, and I want you you I want you to go into the weekend with nothing but laughs and a a warm heart or what have you.
- 1:45FRPC Host Vince: Some of these are gonna be some of your favorites from before, some are gonna be things that maybe have happened recently, but I will tell you this: it's gonna be awesome.
- 2:08FRPC Host Vince: It will be awesome.
- 2:09FRPC Host Vince: So I am looking forward to that part right there.
- 2:13FRPC Host Vince: And we are going to obviously start with the Dallas Mavericks, where Dallas finally has clarity on two things.
- 2:22FRPC Host Vince: Nico is gone, so can't beat up on Nico, can't say the fire Nico chant anymore, and that they need to build around Cooper Flag.
- 2:32FRPC Host Vince: And this golden boy that has uh touched our hearts, uh, it is going to be a monumental task, and the thing that is going to really push this is obviously the Luca trade, the Luca trade of Anthony Davis, and how he looks fragile, he looks expensive, and he's too late for the timeline.
- 2:57FRPC Host Vince: And people want to sit there and go, well, this is not what they were saying early in the year.
- 3:02FRPC Host Vince: Well, remember, you had a crazy man supposedly running your organization in Nico Harrison.
- 3:08FRPC Host Vince: I don't personally think that.
- 3:09FRPC Host Vince: I'm not saying that I like Nico as far as what his move was with the Luca Doncic's trade at all, because I think it really set the Mavericks back.
- 3:20FRPC Host Vince: But now that we're here, we gotta start making some real tough decisions on what's gonna go on with the Dallas Mavericks.
- 3:28FRPC Host Vince: And I said before the season started, and I think as the season was starting, when you go back and you listen to like the uh first pod, the prediction pod, I said this year, I don't care what the record is, it's all about the development and everything that has to do with Cooper Flag.
- 3:48FRPC Host Vince: So if you get off to a great start, fantastic.
- 3:51FRPC Host Vince: It's still about Cooper Flag's development.
- 3:54FRPC Host Vince: Nothing changes.
- 3:56FRPC Host Vince: Now that we are at a situation where the Mavs are 3-9, they're dead last in offense at 107.8 points per game, which is the worst offensive rating in the league.
- 4:10FRPC Host Vince: Where the one thing that actually makes sense is the long-term ability of Cooper Flag.
- 4:15FRPC Host Vince: It is your due diligence now to take care of Cooper Flag and his development.
- 4:20FRPC Host Vince: You could say, well, Anthony Davis is a good vet to have around.
- 4:24FRPC Host Vince: It is, but if Anthony Davis is getting the lion's share of opportunities of you know putting the ball in the basket, I don't think that is what you really want to have going on in your organization.
- 4:39FRPC Host Vince: What makes this super hard?
- 4:41FRPC Host Vince: Anthony Davis is making fifty-four million dollars this year, he is making fifty seven thousand fifty-seven million dollars next year, and then he has a player option after that, which I am almost positive due to his injury history, and due to you know, he'll be in his mid-30s at that point in time, he will obviously pick that up because I'm sure people are gonna try to want to get him on the cheap if he did opt out.
- 5:12FRPC Host Vince: You gotta make sure that in a second second apron box on a roster that still needs picks, wings, guards, actually be organized.
- 5:22FRPC Host Vince: Trading Anthony Davis, even at a discount, isn't giving up.
- 5:27FRPC Host Vince: It's admitting that Cooper Flag is the son and everything has to orbit around him.
- 5:32FRPC Host Vince: I don't know where anybody would have a problem with that.
- 5:36FRPC Host Vince: Now let's get into some of the particulars.
- 5:38FRPC Host Vince: We talked about his $54 million, his salary.
- 5:41FRPC Host Vince: What makes this so hard is that we can eliminate like seven teams right off the bat.
- 5:48FRPC Host Vince: Could you do a deal with Cleveland?
- 5:51FRPC Host Vince: You could not.
- 5:52FRPC Host Vince: Do a deal with the Boston Celtics who are in a kind of a rebuild, whatever the case may be.
- 5:57FRPC Host Vince: No, you can't.
- 5:58FRPC Host Vince: There are a lot of teams that you cannot do a deal with, like go because of the fact that the aprons work in a certain way, Dallas can't take any more money back in a in a trade.
- 6:11FRPC Host Vince: Okay, so the seven other teams that are in this situation, either in the second apron or in the first apron, the whole point of Anthony Davis being traded is getting things back for understand what the mindset is, understand what we're trying to do here.
- 6:27FRPC Host Vince: We are trying to retool on the fly, and we're trying to get younger around Cooper Flag.
- 6:34FRPC Host Vince: You can't move Kyrie right now because he's rehabbing the ACL and has almost no market right now.
- 6:43FRPC Host Vince: Now, obviously, when he comes back, there could be a situation where a team who needs a floor general who could love to have somebody of I re uh Kyrie's uh offensive prowess come into their organization.
- 7:00FRPC Host Vince: Really hard for somebody who is 33 years of age coming off of ACL tear and expecting him to be as nimble or as have the agility that he did when he left with the ACL tear.
- 7:17FRPC Host Vince: Dallas has his own pick this year, so for the 2026 NBA draft, they are set for their pick.
- 7:26FRPC Host Vince: It is when you get to the 2027 through 2031 situation where it becomes very murky because the Charlotte Hornets own the 2027 pick.
- 7:39FRPC Host Vince: Guess who owns the 2029 pick?
- 7:42FRPC Host Vince: We're gonna get to them in a little while.
- 7:44FRPC Host Vince: The Oklahoma City Thunder.
- 7:46FRPC Host Vince: Think about that.
- 7:48FRPC Host Vince: And we got some real scary news about the Oklahoma City Thunder, not only about what historic kind of run that they're on at this present time, but there's also more bad news coming out down the horizon if you are a fan of a NBA franchise other than Oklahoma City.
- 8:06FRPC Host Vince: Now, you live in Oklahoma City or you're a fan of the Thunder.
- 8:10FRPC Host Vince: Guess what?
- 8:10FRPC Host Vince: It is all roses, baby.
- 8:13FRPC Host Vince: It is fantastic for you, and I can't wait to get to that news and we will get there.
- 8:18FRPC Host Vince: But right now, let's get back to Dallas.
- 8:20FRPC Host Vince: We got a lot of things that we need to talk about.
- 8:22FRPC Host Vince: Right now, they're not bad to where they're in the first apron.
- 8:27FRPC Host Vince: Currently, we know their record is 3-9, they're 13 in the West.
- 8:31FRPC Host Vince: They have a negative net rating of minus 6.4, which is 24th in the league.
- 8:38FRPC Host Vince: Not great.
- 8:39FRPC Host Vince: Their offense is 30th in the league in points per game.
- 8:43FRPC Host Vince: Uh their offensive rating is also 30th, which is what?
- 8:47FRPC Host Vince: Dead last.
- 8:48FRPC Host Vince: Defense is somehow 4th in defensive rating.
- 8:52FRPC Host Vince: Their pace is fourth.
- 8:54FRPC Host Vince: They're playing at a fast pace, still, can't score worth a damn.
- 8:59FRPC Host Vince: That's because they don't have a point guard to run their offense.
- 9:02FRPC Host Vince: They tried to do this Cooper Flag thing to no avail.
- 9:07FRPC Host Vince: And now we got a pivot on the fly.
- 9:10FRPC Host Vince: Cooper Flag, for whatever you want to talk about, what he is, and none of this situation is his fault.
- 9:17FRPC Host Vince: You know, he just got drafted to this team.
- 9:20FRPC Host Vince: He's 18 years of age.
- 9:21FRPC Host Vince: He's clearly your next go-to archetype.
- 9:24FRPC Host Vince: He's not a complimentary piece, and we got to stop treating him like a complimentary piece.
- 9:31FRPC Host Vince: We are not in a situation where the Dallas Mavericks are built to win now.
- 9:37FRPC Host Vince: Now, contrary to what Nico Harrison told us and what kind of bill of goods he was trying to sell the fan base early on this season and what have you, and during the offseason, that is not the case.
- 9:48FRPC Host Vince: It is literally, hey, can we get some young pieces for our vets that are aging?
- 9:56FRPC Host Vince: That is what we're hoping to do.
- 9:59FRPC Host Vince: Is there a team out there that is looking to maybe kind of rearrange some deck chairs?
- 10:05FRPC Host Vince: That's the thing that we're looking for.
- 10:07FRPC Host Vince: And along the way, can we accumulate assets, whether young player or draft picks, to help ourselves out because we are in a draft pick deficient situation after this year.
- 10:22FRPC Host Vince: So any picks that the Dallas Mavericks can pick up for some of these trades that can go on, it's gonna be good news.
- 10:29FRPC Host Vince: The bad part about this whole thing is that the roster right now for the Dallas Mavericks is actually built for Luka Doncic.
- 10:37FRPC Host Vince: Remember, they have Derek Lively Jr., I know he's he's hurt a lot, Daniel Gafford, who is also a pick and roll type guy, rim runner, and also defensive specimen.
- 10:51FRPC Host Vince: But then you get to the other guys, the PJ Washingtons of the World.
- 10:55FRPC Host Vince: He is really good if he can just stand stationary in a corner and shoot threes.
- 10:59FRPC Host Vince: Now I'm not saying that PJ Washington doesn't have other things in his bag that he can't do.
- 11:05FRPC Host Vince: All I'm saying is that it is more conducive for him to have an orchestrator such as a Luka Doncic to go ahead and distribute the ball to him and put him in a position where he can stand at a three behind the three-point line and go ahead and stroke that shot.
- 11:24FRPC Host Vince: What do you do from there?
- 11:25FRPC Host Vince: If you're a Mass fan, every possession feels like whose turn is it now instead of what's the plan?
- 11:32FRPC Host Vince: Defense belongs on a contender, the offense belongs in a uh league pass at three o'clock in February situation.
- 11:40FRPC Host Vince: You can't build around A D.
- 11:43FRPC Host Vince: And it's not because I don't like A D, it's because you have a duty to make sure you can put enough stuff around Cooper Flag.
- 11:51FRPC Host Vince: So what does this all mean?
- 11:54FRPC Host Vince: The great thing for the Dallas Mavericks is that they have a lot of pieces that there are a lot of organizations that would like, uh, such as a Daniel Gafford.
- 12:04FRPC Host Vince: He would be uh extremely attractive to other organizations who are making playoff runs for his physicality, for his rebounding, for his rim protection, and also his rim running prowess.
- 12:18FRPC Host Vince: This dude got a lot of bounce, this dude got a lot of energy.
- 12:21FRPC Host Vince: I don't know if he's necessarily your 30-minute center guy, a 20-minute guy, for sure.
- 12:29FRPC Host Vince: I would hope that you would want something like that on the squad.
- 12:33FRPC Host Vince: There are a lot of teams that will want that, plus, he's a great rebounder.
- 12:38FRPC Host Vince: Now, PJ Washington is from the Dallas area, so there's a good chance that he wants to stay even through this situation, and it wouldn't be bad to have PJ Washington, who is an established vet, who's kind of gone through the rebuilding process when he was in Charlotte, and now he's had a taste of some champ high-level basketball in the playoffs.
- 13:01FRPC Host Vince: So I like a guy like PJ staying around, and and here's the thing if he loves Dallas the way people have said around him that he loves Dallas, there are other pieces that we can talk about.
- 13:14FRPC Host Vince: How about Najee Marshall?
- 13:16FRPC Host Vince: Najee Marshall is a wing defender, a three-point shooter, somebody who surprisingly, when Kyrie got hurt last year, he was able to run the offense really good.
- 13:30FRPC Host Vince: I mean, it wasn't you know, it wasn't expert level, but it was like, okay, hold on.
- 13:35FRPC Host Vince: We're still decent with Najee running the offense, initiating the offense.
- 13:41FRPC Host Vince: With Kyrie, I think personally, what you're gonna have to do is it all depends on when you get Kyrie back.
- 13:48FRPC Host Vince: There's two uh schools of thought.
- 13:50FRPC Host Vince: One, there was this thing about Kyrie coming back in November.
- 13:56FRPC Host Vince: Obviously, that was a trash statement.
- 13:58FRPC Host Vince: We are in the middle of November, and we have not seen nor heard of Kyrie coming back.
- 14:04FRPC Host Vince: I think this was more Nico Harrison praying to the basketball gods, please let this man heal quicker so I don't lose my job.
- 14:15FRPC Host Vince: To no avail, Nico, to no avail, you lost your gig.
- 14:19FRPC Host Vince: Where do we go from here?
- 14:21FRPC Host Vince: Now you could do this since it's already bad.
- 14:25FRPC Host Vince: You could keep Kyrie out.
- 14:29FRPC Host Vince: Now, there's a drawback to that.
- 14:32FRPC Host Vince: If you keep Kyrie out, until let's say around the trade deadline, he gets him, you know, more strength than that leg, but he's been off of basketball for almost a year at that point, so the rush level and the ability to run the offense and not have uh familiarity with his teammates and where they like the ball, i.e.
- 14:56FRPC Host Vince: Cooper Flag, that's the most important part of this process, that would be detrimental to that part.
- 15:03FRPC Host Vince: But you're already losing, so do you want to help the losing process continue and make sure that you get yourself a high lottery pick going into next year?
- 15:15FRPC Host Vince: Because that's the goal right now.
- 15:17FRPC Host Vince: I don't think the goal is like we're gonna make this ferocious run towards the play-in.
- 15:22FRPC Host Vince: The goal now is can we go ahead and get Cooper Flag the reps that he needs, the opportunity that he needs, and see where his most comfortable spots are and go from there.
- 15:37FRPC Host Vince: That's where we are at this point.
- 15:39FRPC Host Vince: I don't think we need to worry about anything else but that.
- 15:42FRPC Host Vince: What else do we have to worry about?
- 15:45FRPC Host Vince: We talked about the offense, we talked about the defense and how it is.
- 15:49FRPC Host Vince: The big question is this who are gonna make these decisions?
- 15:54FRPC Host Vince: We talked about some of the pieces that you could move on from.
- 15:58FRPC Host Vince: We didn't even talk about moving Derek Lively, he's still too young and also injury prone.
- 16:03FRPC Host Vince: Let's get him a couple years of maybe not being injury prone to move on from him, but who's gonna make this decision?
- 16:10FRPC Host Vince: You got Messiah J gives you a proven star, discipline and with patience.
- 16:15FRPC Host Vince: He's not scared to say no to when now moves.
- 16:20FRPC Host Vince: That's very important.
- 16:22FRPC Host Vince: Also, he is available.
- 16:24FRPC Host Vince: Toronto let him go.
- 16:26FRPC Host Vince: I'll tell you a guy that I would be very interested in, and and I don't know why other people haven't thought about this.
- 16:34FRPC Host Vince: I'm looking at you, Phoenix.
- 16:36FRPC Host Vince: I'm looking dead at you.
- 16:38FRPC Host Vince: How come nobody's made a run at Jesse Gould?
- 16:42FRPC Host Vince: He is the long time guy at the Oklahoma City Thunder, he is their strategy and uh and analyst guy, he is a perfect long-term who can help build a really good team around Cooper Flag.
- 16:59FRPC Host Vince: Here's the thing Sam Chresty, he has a brain trust there.
- 17:04FRPC Host Vince: Somebody needs to start tapping into this bank brain trust and taking and plucking some of these people away from him because they are a wagon right now.
- 17:14FRPC Host Vince: And again, I have some scary news to give to you if you are an NBA fan, the Oklahoma City Thunder fans are gonna be like, oh my god, we are st we are so great and we are still so locked in forever.
- 17:29FRPC Host Vince: But Jesse Gould is one of those guys I would go ahead and tap as maybe the next uh player personnel guy for the Dallas Mavericks.
- 17:38FRPC Host Vince: Another guy that I would look into, another Oklahoma City guy, Will Dawkins.
- 17:43FRPC Host Vince: Will Dawkins is the scouting development mind of the Oklahoma City Thunder.
- 17:50FRPC Host Vince: This is a guy that would be ideal for asset accumulation, a young core builder, this is the type of guy that I would also go look at.
- 18:00FRPC Host Vince: If you do not want to pilfer from the Oklahoma City Thunder, which I would not understand why you would not want to do that, there's another guy who has done a really good job.
- 18:11FRPC Host Vince: I don't know about what the the culture is down there, but as far as picking guys and them hitting an eye for talent when it's like maybe second draft type of situation, and he might be tired about where he is right now.
- 18:28FRPC Host Vince: Do you make a phone call to Memphis and say, hey, is there any way we can get Zach Kleiman to give us the interview?
- 18:36FRPC Host Vince: The reason why I bring up Zach Kleiman's name is just you know what's going on in Memphis, you know about the John Morant situation, you know about just the tenuousness of what goes on right now in Memphis in FedEx Forum, and I wonder if Zach Kleiman would just like just a kind of a do-over, clean slate, come to Dallas, he got Cooper Flag, and then he can build around this guy, and you still got some young pieces, and you got some vets that you would be able to say, okay, we're gonna keep him, and we're gonna go ahead and move this guy along.
- 19:17FRPC Host Vince: He can also have conversations with clutch, he's been in the seat before, so they're not gonna just railroad him and say, hey, this is kind of what we want to do and we want to run your organization.
- 19:31FRPC Host Vince: Zach Kleiman is not that guy.
- 19:34FRPC Host Vince: So those are some of the people that I kind of like through out there now.
- 19:39FRPC Host Vince: If you are a Dallas Mavericks fan, if there is somebody else that I mean, I didn't even talk about Tim Conley because Tim Conley is not moving from Minnesota.
- 19:48FRPC Host Vince: Okay, Brad Stevens, you're not getting Brad Stevens from Boston.
- 19:52FRPC Host Vince: Okay, I think uh our guy, Bob Myers, just signed a deal with the Josh Harris, the owner of the Red of the Commanders, and the Philadelphia 76ers to be his like overall, kind of like in the stand casting mode back in the day for Atlanta for the Braves and the Atlanta Hawks.
- 20:16FRPC Host Vince: I want to give you guys that one, again, I think it would be a phenomenal idea to tap in to Oklahoma City Thunders, Brain Trust, and their people, because nobody's been taken from them whatsoever.
- 20:32FRPC Host Vince: The second thing is make a call to Memphis, make a call to see what Jazak Kleiman's appetite is to move from Memphis to Dallas.
- 20:41FRPC Host Vince: If you are a glass half full type of person, I can see you saying, Well, once we get Kyrie and we can get everybody healthy, A D included, we still have like the bones of a very good team.
- 20:57FRPC Host Vince: I understand that.
- 20:59FRPC Host Vince: It sounds ridiculous, but I do understand that.
- 21:03FRPC Host Vince: But my whole point, and I will continue to hammer this, it's not about how many games you can win this year, it is literally how many opportunities, whether it's good, bad, how ugly it might look, or whatever.
- 21:19FRPC Host Vince: We are trying to get as many reps for the 18-year-old Cooper Flag as we possibly can.
- 21:28FRPC Host Vince: Because we want to tap into that talent, we want to make sure that he is inundated with information, so then when he goes into his next season, he's working on specific things to make himself better, and the one thing with Cooper Flag that we all know is that that kid is an absolute dog worker.
- 21:53FRPC Host Vince: Okay, he is gonna work as hard as he possibly can to clean up any deficiencies that he has in his game.
- 22:01FRPC Host Vince: So, I personally want to go that route.
- 22:04FRPC Host Vince: If I was a Mavericks fan, if I was in that organization, that's the thing that I would be pulling for.
- 22:11FRPC Host Vince: You can also tell me we're not gonna get full value, we're gonna get 50, maybe 60 cents on the dollar for Anthony Davis.
- 22:20FRPC Host Vince: You are 100% right.
- 22:22FRPC Host Vince: There are some nasty rumors out there.
- 22:25FRPC Host Vince: There are some rumors that almost make you want to throw up, but you also have to understand that where you are and where he is and what you're actually trying to do.
- 22:36FRPC Host Vince: You are trying to trade somebody who is often injured, you are trying to trade somebody who is on the other side of 30, which is a death nail in the NBA.
- 22:49FRPC Host Vince: What you get back from him is you're hoping for a young asset back or a decent draft pick back.
- 22:58FRPC Host Vince: You would love to get both.
- 23:00FRPC Host Vince: By the way, you might have to take on some salary of an unsavory dude in his place.
- 23:06FRPC Host Vince: Hopefully, it's it's an expiring contract, so you don't have to hold on to this piece for too long.
- 23:15FRPC Host Vince: There are some things that I've heard out there.
- 23:19FRPC Host Vince: There's some rumblings of the Chicago Bulls.
- 23:22FRPC Host Vince: Do not under no circumstances take the Patrick Williams contract back.
- 23:28FRPC Host Vince: But if you could get Kobe White and a first and maybe some other contracts that aren't great, like Kevin Herter, something like that, Nikola Vucevic, which you could probably move on for something else, maybe a couple seconds for Vooch.
- 23:44FRPC Host Vince: There you go.
- 23:46FRPC Host Vince: You're cooking.
- 23:47FRPC Host Vince: But don't sit here and turn up your nose.
- 23:51FRPC Host Vince: Do not allow yourself to be caught in a situation where you're looking for great and you pass up on good.
- 23:59FRPC Host Vince: Because right now, you gotta understand who you are and where you are in your process.
- 24:04FRPC Host Vince: And again, you have your own pick this year, and you don't have any control of your picks from 27 to 31.
- 24:11FRPC Host Vince: This is the last thing we're gonna say on Dallas.
- 24:13FRPC Host Vince: This is a fork in the road moment.
- 24:16FRPC Host Vince: If you keep trying to squeeze one more run out of Anthony Davis in a uh roster that's built for Luca, that's been traded already, you're gonna fail.
- 24:27FRPC Host Vince: Or you can admit that Cooper Flag is obviously your franchise, and you gotta give him as many reps as you possibly can.
- 24:34FRPC Host Vince: The numbers don't lie.
- 24:36FRPC Host Vince: You're 30th, you're 30th in offense, you have a negative net rating, and you're a tax team with no real ceiling whatsoever.
- 24:45FRPC Host Vince: AD is still good enough to help a real contender, and that contender just is in Dallas right now.
- 24:52FRPC Host Vince: Treating him isn't disrespect, it's the clearest way to respect Flag's future.
- 24:59FRPC Host Vince: If you don't rebuild around an 18-year-old who's about to turn 19, and a $54 million injury risk, you pick the timeline that you need to live with.
- 25:11FRPC Host Vince: So the choice is yours.
- 25:13FRPC Host Vince: You know, it's like that old song.
- 25:16FRPC Host Vince: You can get with this or you can get with that.
- 25:19FRPC Host Vince: I think you get with this, because this is where it's at.
- 25:22FRPC Host Vince: We need to move on to something that is absolutely uh mind-boggling, and that is the Oklahoma City Thunder.
- 25:30FRPC Host Vince: And you say, Well, Vince, we know Oklahoma City is good, they the defended champions, bro.
- 25:38FRPC Host Vince: You're right.
- 25:40FRPC Host Vince: There's good defending champions, and then there's why does this feel like a glitch in the Matrix?
- 25:47FRPC Host Vince: And that's where we are with the Oklahoma City Thunder right now.
- 25:51FRPC Host Vince: They didn't stumble into a hangover, they sprinted out of their parade.
- 25:57FRPC Host Vince: They are 12 and 1 start and a margin of victory of 15 points per game.
- 26:05FRPC Host Vince: And if you want to get real analytical about it, they're at 15.54 points net rating right now.
- 26:15FRPC Host Vince: Last year they were 12.87, which was also historic.
- 26:19FRPC Host Vince: Last season they tied for the fourth most wins ever with 68, and they posted a best the best margin of victory in league history.
- 26:31FRPC Host Vince: That's that 12.87 we just talked about.
- 26:34FRPC Host Vince: Somehow, the title defense looks even meaner.
- 26:38FRPC Host Vince: This isn't a cute young core anymore.
- 26:41FRPC Host Vince: This is grown-up dominance with recedes everywhere.
- 26:45FRPC Host Vince: By the way, Shea Gills's Alexander said he was not real thrilled with the way the Thunder played last year in the playoffs.
- 26:54FRPC Host Vince: He thought that they played with their food a little bit, and that he needed to make sure that this year that mentality was stomped out.
- 27:04FRPC Host Vince: That's from your reigning defending regular season in NBA Finals MVP.
- 27:12FRPC Host Vince: They're doing this while missing Jalen Williams entirely, plus stretches without Lou Dort.
- 27:19FRPC Host Vince: Uh, they've had a couple games missed by Chet Homgren, Alex Caruso, three recent all defensive nods among them.
- 27:29FRPC Host Vince: Their defense is leveled up, it is the best in the league.
- 27:34FRPC Host Vince: To the point of six points per 100 possessions, better than second.
- 27:42FRPC Host Vince: Okay, so think about this.
- 27:44FRPC Host Vince: The Oklahoma City Thunder right now, their defensive rating is basically 103.0.
- 27:52FRPC Host Vince: The Denver Nuggets, who are in second place in this, they're at 109.4.
- 27:58FRPC Host Vince: We've seen dominant title defenses before.
- 28:01FRPC Host Vince: The 72-win bulls come into come into that thought process, the 69-win bulls come into that process, the streaking heat, the 73-win Warriors Club, but OKC's wire-to-wire profile is already bargaining into the conversation for sure.
- 28:22FRPC Host Vince: We saw it coming last year, right?
- 28:24FRPC Host Vince: We even talked about it two years ago on this podcast, but let's just talk about last year.
- 28:30FRPC Host Vince: Every time we talked about the Oklahoma City Thunder on this podcast last year, the one thing that we always brought up was the net rating, how crazy it was.
- 28:38FRPC Host Vince: They are three points better than they were last year.
- 28:43FRPC Host Vince: Well, almost.
- 28:45FRPC Host Vince: Two and some change.
- 28:46FRPC Host Vince: Right now it's fifteen point five four.
- 28:49FRPC Host Vince: Last year was twelve point eight seven.
- 28:51FRPC Host Vince: But you get the point.
- 28:53FRPC Host Vince: Last year's defensive rating, best in the NBA, and 2.5 clear of second place.
- 29:04FRPC Host Vince: This year, 103 coins defensive rating.
- 29:08FRPC Host Vince: Now 6.4 better than second place.
- 29:12FRPC Host Vince: These are early returns.
- 29:14FRPC Host Vince: We understand that they're not gonna be able to hold sustain some of these numbers.
- 29:19FRPC Host Vince: But that net rating, they might be able to hold up because we all saw it last year.
- 29:24FRPC Host Vince: They're first in effective field goal percentage allowed.
- 29:28FRPC Host Vince: They're first in points off turnovers, their top five in defensive rebounding again.
- 29:35FRPC Host Vince: If you're a Thunder fan, this feels less like a cute run and more like, oh, this might be an error.
- 29:43FRPC Host Vince: So think about this.
- 29:45FRPC Host Vince: This is a team that we beg for the NBA to put on national TV last year.
- 29:52FRPC Host Vince: Right?
- 29:52FRPC Host Vince: I remember I think it was one of the three wishes on we have a Christmas show that comes up and we're gonna be talking about it.
- 29:59FRPC Host Vince: Sooner rather than later here, but we have a Christmas show that we do, like on the twenty fourth of December, and we call it the three wishes.
- 30:08FRPC Host Vince: And usually what it is, is wishes to NBA fans to make the experience better and whatever the case may be.
- 30:15FRPC Host Vince: And I think one of the things that we put on there, if it wasn't just an honorable mention, was OKC getting more uh TV time, which obviously they are this year, because they are the defending reigning NBA champions.
- 30:30FRPC Host Vince: But yeah, this is not a cute run anymore.
- 30:33FRPC Host Vince: This is dominance, like this is dominance like steadily going up that hill.
- 30:39FRPC Host Vince: Just steadily going up, like we're coming, we're coming, we're coming, and then all of a sudden you sit there and you see it, it's just like, damn, this is what's going on.
- 30:48FRPC Host Vince: This is the craziness that's happening.
- 30:50FRPC Host Vince: The one thing that throws some cold water on this situation is that they got a lot of talent, and we haven't even started talking about some of the players yet and who's doing what and whatever case may be.
- 31:04FRPC Host Vince: The second apron, as a boogeyman, is circling this nearly flawless roster.
- 31:11FRPC Host Vince: But don't worry, I got some cool news for our OKC brethren out there.
- 31:18FRPC Host Vince: OKC is demolishing parody right before the punitive cap starts squeezing deep, squeezing a deep, talented young core.
- 31:28FRPC Host Vince: This level of dominance will multiply young contributors' screams, enjoy the surplus value window while it lasts.
- 31:38FRPC Host Vince: But are we in a situation where we need to hit the panic button?
- 31:42FRPC Host Vince: Because I would submit to you one AJ Mitchell.
- 31:47FRPC Host Vince: Could Lou Dort and Case and Wallace become too expensive as we move along?
- 31:53FRPC Host Vince: We have identified the core.
- 31:57FRPC Host Vince: Right?
- 31:58FRPC Host Vince: We've identified the guys that we're definitely keeping.
- 32:02FRPC Host Vince: Chet Hongren, it's hard to mimic or come within a close facsimile of what Chet Hongren is, who's a 7 foot-1, 7 foot 2 stretch big, who got handles and quicks, and can switch on to smaller players, and then when he's on the offensive side, he can punish.
- 32:24FRPC Host Vince: If for some reason there's a switch in a pick and roll, he can punish the little guy on the block or step out to the three-point line and hit threes on your big.
- 32:37FRPC Host Vince: So we know that he's gonna be there.
- 32:39FRPC Host Vince: Now, Jalen Williams is another guy that the we pretty much have handpicked as a guy that we're gonna keep.
- 32:48FRPC Host Vince: Now, here's the thing if injury continues to become an issue, do you move along from that really big contract that you just re-signed him for?
- 33:01FRPC Host Vince: So the Thunder isn't some sort of like second agrant theory for okay see it's the final boss of this timeline, and the reason why they're not really worried is because I told you I said that I had something that was truly remarkable.
- 33:23FRPC Host Vince: The Clippers who are currently three and eight, the Oklahoma City Thunder on their drive pick.
- 33:32FRPC Host Vince: Right now, I believe the Clippers would be seventh in the lottery.
- 33:38FRPC Host Vince: Could you imagine if OKC somehow, some way ended up in that like top three, where you're looking at either AJ DeBansta, Cam Boozer, or uh Darren Peterson.
- 33:55FRPC Host Vince: Not to say that they need this, but you could continue to reinvent your timeline.
- 34:05FRPC Host Vince: Cause anytime that you can get a high-level asset like such as these guys, and there might be a couple more from this draft class, you know, I've been starting to dig in on some of these guys, and the one thing that we do know, and something that we talked about with Dallas, is that Sam Chrestie is go is probably going to pick the right guy.
- 34:25FRPC Host Vince: Now, I'm not saying that not necessarily that all of his draft picks have hit.
- 34:30FRPC Host Vince: That's not true, but he's had such a good hit rate that it's hard to sit there, and every time, you know, OKC is on the clock, it's obviously Sam Prestey knows what he's doing.
- 34:47FRPC Host Vince: You know, we're definitely going to give Sam Preste the benefit of the doubt when it comes to drafting.
- 34:55FRPC Host Vince: Because again, I mean Chet Hongren was probably easiest one, right?
- 35:00FRPC Host Vince: But then Jalen Williams was 12th overall.
- 35:04FRPC Host Vince: Now, once we get past seven, we're kind of we're we're wishing on a hope and a prayer.
- 35:11FRPC Host Vince: You know, we also got contributors like Casey Wallace.
- 35:16FRPC Host Vince: We also have contributors like we just talked about, AJ Mitchell, who's averaging almost 17 points a game, and we didn't even know we didn't even know who this kid was.
- 35:26FRPC Host Vince: Now, also keep in mind, Nicola Topic hasn't played a game for them yet.
- 35:32FRPC Host Vince: Also, the center out of Georgetown, Thomas Sorber, is gonna be sitting out all year this year.
- 35:41FRPC Host Vince: And then you could have have actual reinforcements on the front line or wherever you feel that there's a deficit.
- 35:49FRPC Host Vince: We also know that Sam Chresty is gonna go for the the most upside, but he's looking for character dudes, he's looking for dudes that want to get it out the mud, he's looking for dudes that are really good people.
- 36:04FRPC Host Vince: And the only way to have a team like the Oklahoma City Thunder is that you have a or a group of guys that have a lot of want-to, but also care about the next man that's sitting next to them.
- 36:19FRPC Host Vince: And you see that with the Oklahoma City Thunder.
- 36:23FRPC Host Vince: Now they're their calling card last year was defense, and now some somehow it's even nastier by the numbers this year.
- 36:32FRPC Host Vince: The version is doing this without Jalen Williams, is probably the most important piece right there.
- 36:40FRPC Host Vince: And also, I saw the Oklahoma City Thunder absolutely destroy my beloved Lakers without Jalen Williams and also Lou Dort.
- 36:51FRPC Host Vince: Lou Dort, who is their like main defensive stopper on your star type of dude person.
- 36:58FRPC Host Vince: They say, oh, it's okay.
- 37:00FRPC Host Vince: We don't need just it's okay if we don't have Lou Dort.
- 37:04FRPC Host Vince: We got Alex Caruso, and we got others, we got Caseon Wallace, who is a great point of attack defender.
- 37:13FRPC Host Vince: Chet Homegren, true shooting percentage right now is 718.
- 37:20FRPC Host Vince: He has a strong block rate and efficiency, amplifying that back line along with Isaiah Hartenstein.
- 37:30FRPC Host Vince: So if you're a Thunder fan and you're realizing they haven't even played their best two-way lineups consistently yet, that is a sobering thought.
- 37:39FRPC Host Vince: That's a sobering thought for the rest of us.
- 37:42FRPC Host Vince: Not for Oklahoma City.
- 37:44FRPC Host Vince: They're just gonna love it.
- 37:45FRPC Host Vince: They're gonna sip champagne, they're gonna have whatever it is that they like to drink out there.
- 37:50FRPC Host Vince: I don't know what's the preference of beer out in Oklahoma City.
- 37:53FRPC Host Vince: I don't know.
- 37:54FRPC Host Vince: Somebody hit me up on Twitter at frontrunner PC.
- 37:58FRPC Host Vince: Let me know what y'all drink.
- 38:00FRPC Host Vince: We'll go ahead, we'll toast one up to you.
- 38:02FRPC Host Vince: I don't drink anymore, but we'll toast one up to you anyway.
- 38:05FRPC Host Vince: Say here's to you.
- 38:07FRPC Host Vince: For the rest of the NBA loving part of this situation, think about how hopeless we felt when the year would start and Golden State would roll out there Kevin Durant, Steph Curry, Young, Clay Thompson, and Draymond Green, who hadn't lost his mind yet.
- 38:28FRPC Host Vince: Think about that.
- 38:29FRPC Host Vince: Think about how crazy that was.
- 38:31FRPC Host Vince: And now they got Shea, Gilges Alexander, Jalen Williams, like we said, has to play the game, but AJ Mitchell is doing his best, Shea Gilge's Alexander impersonation.
- 38:43FRPC Host Vince: We got Casey Wallace, who was sitting there just being an on-ball demon on the defensive end.
- 38:49FRPC Host Vince: Oh, and by the way, when you think you can take a deep breath, they bring in Alex Caruso.
- 38:54FRPC Host Vince: Who has the best individual net rating in all of the NBA?
- 39:01FRPC Host Vince: Yes, Alex Caruso, the dude who only scores like six, eight points a game, has the best individual net rating in basketball right now.
- 39:14FRPC Host Vince: They're just getting better.
- 39:17FRPC Host Vince: They haven't even got everybody.
- 39:19FRPC Host Vince: The Thunder took the summer to actually enjoy their championship.
- 39:22FRPC Host Vince: Um this was this was pressed upon by Sam Cresty, coming from that leadership group, then came back playing angrier, not softer.
- 39:32FRPC Host Vince: They did not rest on their loyals.
- 39:34FRPC Host Vince: This comes down to Shea Gilge's Alexander's observation of what they did in the playoffs last year, and he said, Man, there's room for improvement.
- 39:44FRPC Host Vince: We didn't play our best basketball.
- 39:46FRPC Host Vince: Think about that.
- 39:47FRPC Host Vince: The the best player on the team who won an MVP last year, right?
- 39:53FRPC Host Vince: The guy who also won the NBA Finals MVP is telling you that his team did not play their best basketball, and there's some a lot of things that they can clean up.
- 40:08FRPC Host Vince: SGA's insane box plus minus and usage alongside his efficiency screens quiet, ruthless superstar control of the offense is looking Jordan-esque.
- 40:21FRPC Host Vince: It might not be the same play style as Jordan, but the actual efficiency and just the way that he's getting after it.
- 40:31FRPC Host Vince: Shea Gilders Alexander is like is really doing some Jordan type of things, and if you go and put the defense along with it, because keep in mind, of the dudes that are out there, Shea Gilders Alexander might be the fifth best defender on the court at any particular time period where he's there.
- 40:58FRPC Host Vince: And he also averages like two steals a game.
- 41:02FRPC Host Vince: Shea Gilders Alexander is a pretty good damn defender.
- 41:06FRPC Host Vince: You know, he's not a slouch.
- 41:07FRPC Host Vince: I am a Lakers fan.
- 41:10FRPC Host Vince: Self-professed, all those type of things, whatever.
- 41:12FRPC Host Vince: I'm an analyst first, I believe.
- 41:14FRPC Host Vince: I keep my analyst hat on most of the time.
- 41:17FRPC Host Vince: But as a I'm a Lakers fan.
- 41:19FRPC Host Vince: I grew up a Lakers fan.
- 41:20FRPC Host Vince: I will always be a Lakers fan.
- 41:23FRPC Host Vince: I look at Luka Doncic and go, this is one of the best offensive players I've ever seen.
- 41:28FRPC Host Vince: But then when I look at him on the defensive side, I'm like, man, if you can just be competitive.
- 41:34FRPC Host Vince: We don't even need you to be good.
- 41:36FRPC Host Vince: Just just kind of be in the right situation most of the time.
- 41:41FRPC Host Vince: We're not even asking you to get like into some sort of like crazy defensive stand and slap the floor like you a dookie or anything like that.
- 41:51FRPC Host Vince: I'm just asking you to not be embarrassed.
- 41:55FRPC Host Vince: The Oklahoma City Thunder, the game against the Lakers a couple nights ago, their second unit that featured like Alex Caruso, that might have been a better defensive team than the the team that started.
- 42:10FRPC Host Vince: Because I believe, yeah, Casey Wallace came off the bench that night.
- 42:14FRPC Host Vince: So keep that in mind.
- 42:16FRPC Host Vince: We already talked about last year they're the best margin of victory ever in 68 wins, which was fourth in league history as far as the 68 wins are concerned.
- 42:29FRPC Host Vince: Now they're 12 and 1 with a 15.454 margin of victory.
- 42:37FRPC Host Vince: Those profile as the best net profile ever, and also they're on a pace right now, like they can win 70 games this year.
- 42:49FRPC Host Vince: Easy.
- 42:50FRPC Host Vince: And that's what it's like a little lull, you know, in the matrix.
- 42:54FRPC Host Vince: They could challenge for that 73.
- 42:57FRPC Host Vince: Historically, the Bulls 96-97 and the uh 73 Warriors team are the main modern comps for sustained dominance.
- 43:07FRPC Host Vince: If you're a Thunder fan, you're now scanning the stack pages like 90s kids with an almanac.
- 43:14FRPC Host Vince: You're casually quoting net ratings at brunch.
- 43:18FRPC Host Vince: The spreadsheet is screaming, this isn't normal, even by champion standards.
- 43:24FRPC Host Vince: The analytics put OKC in the same neighborhood as the scariest repeat champions we've ever seen.
- 43:31FRPC Host Vince: You follow the strength of schedule, the net rating, the double digit wins count versus those historic Bulls or Warriors teams.
- 43:42FRPC Host Vince: And eerily similar just numbers.
- 43:47FRPC Host Vince: If you look at those teams and you look at the OKC Thunder teams, and keep in mind, this is the Bulls with Jordan Pippen and Rodman.
- 43:57FRPC Host Vince: Okay?
- 43:59FRPC Host Vince: This is this is that team.
- 44:02FRPC Host Vince: This is MJ coming back from baseball after his hiatus.
- 44:09FRPC Host Vince: We won't get into that.
- 44:10FRPC Host Vince: We don't need to talk about that.
- 44:12FRPC Host Vince: We ain't gonna talk about MJ in no bad manners right now.
- 44:16FRPC Host Vince: But this is him coming back off of that and saying, hey, we're back.
- 44:22FRPC Host Vince: Let's go ahead and get another three-peat.
- 44:24FRPC Host Vince: We're gonna videotape the whole thing, and then you know, 20 some odd years later, we're gonna do the last dance.
- 44:30FRPC Host Vince: Okay?
- 44:30FRPC Host Vince: Who gets credit for all this?
- 44:33FRPC Host Vince: Well, there's a lot of credit to go around.
- 44:35FRPC Host Vince: Well, we're gonna start at the top with Sam Presty.
- 44:37FRPC Host Vince: You know how I feel about Sam Prestey.
- 44:39FRPC Host Vince: I've talked about Sam Preste and what he's been able to do with the Oklahoma City Thunder time and time again.
- 44:49FRPC Host Vince: But he is a stacked versatile versatile line of defenders and playmakers who can survive playoff hunting and not just regular season noise.
- 45:00FRPC Host Vince: The depth shows the advanced metrics, multiple rotation guys posit with posting positive win shares, um, also box plus minuses, strong true shooting percentage, uh true shooting percentages.
- 45:15FRPC Host Vince: Their abilities to survive injury, like Jalen Williams, Lou Dort, uh Homegrant Caruso without slipping speaks volumes to a roster that is designed to continue to roll.
- 45:31FRPC Host Vince: Again, if you're a Thunder fan, you just go out here and go like man, we trust in Sam Presley, we trust.
- 45:38FRPC Host Vince: And here's the best part he has structured these contracts, he structured these situations like he put Lou Dort was a dude who couldn't shoot the three ball, he was a good little defender at Arizona State.
- 45:55FRPC Host Vince: He was undrafted, comes to OKC, fits into the system, they say, Hey, we're gonna teach you how to shoot the three-ball, and you're gonna be awesome on the defensive end.
- 46:09FRPC Host Vince: Lou Dory was like, I'm bought in.
- 46:11FRPC Host Vince: Whatever, whatever.
- 46:12FRPC Host Vince: Now he's making some, you know, a good chunk of change, whatever case may be, and we keep it moving.
- 46:19FRPC Host Vince: See, it's those wins right there, too.
- 46:22FRPC Host Vince: It's not like, oh, we're gonna hit on all these lottery picks or anything like that.
- 46:26FRPC Host Vince: No, no, no, no, no.
- 46:28FRPC Host Vince: Nah.
- 46:30FRPC Host Vince: It's all the little moves that he's made, too.
- 46:34FRPC Host Vince: It's the taking chances when you are playing with house money, you know, the Uzma Jangs of the world, who we actually think if he got a regular role, he'd be really good.
- 46:49FRPC Host Vince: It's just he can't get all the burn that you think he would need because this tool this team is too talented.
- 46:57FRPC Host Vince: Now, the only thing to this is that the team that did give them the biggest, biggest struggle last year, the team that literally looked them in the face and said, We're not scared of you.
- 47:09FRPC Host Vince: The Nuggets are 9-2.
- 47:10FRPC Host Vince: And we're gonna talk about their dude in a second once we get off the Oklahoma City Thunder.
- 47:16FRPC Host Vince: But their uh their margin of victory is 13.36, so they're two points below Oklahoma City Thunder right now.
- 47:27FRPC Host Vince: Think about that.
- 47:28FRPC Host Vince: And they're off to a great start.
- 47:30FRPC Host Vince: So right now, the Thunder are the defending are defending the belt like they're offended that anyone else thought they had a chance at it.
- 47:41FRPC Host Vince: They following a 68-win, best ever margin of victory season by upping their own standard starting 12-1.
- 47:51FRPC Host Vince: And by the way, their one loss, they shouldn't have lost that game.
- 47:55FRPC Host Vince: They played with their food with Portland.
- 47:58FRPC Host Vince: Portland's a lot better team than they used to be.
- 48:00FRPC Host Vince: You can't go into the motor center thinking like, yo, this a this is an easy dub anymore.
- 48:06FRPC Host Vince: Those kids are playing hard.
- 48:08FRPC Host Vince: They're blown out teams by a uh margin of 15 a night.
- 48:13FRPC Host Vince: Think about that.
- 48:15FRPC Host Vince: Their double digit net rating is so ridiculous.
- 48:19FRPC Host Vince: That means they're literally like they're not playing competitive four quarters almost never.
- 48:25FRPC Host Vince: They're building their defensive profile that sits six points per 100 possessions clear of the next best team.
- 48:34FRPC Host Vince: They've done that again without Jalen Williams.
- 48:38FRPC Host Vince: So OKC isn't just winning, they're outpacing last year's historical dominant championship profile.
- 48:45FRPC Host Vince: Shea's advanced numbers screen eight pack superstar, not just nice story from a small market.
- 48:52FRPC Host Vince: Dominant title defenses are rare.
- 48:55FRPC Host Vince: Doing it in the parody era era that Adam Silver wanted that he craved forever is even crazier.
- 49:03FRPC Host Vince: Average points you beat teams by the Thunder are over 15 right now.
- 49:10FRPC Host Vince: Think about again.
- 49:12FRPC Host Vince: I want you to continue to think about that.
- 49:14FRPC Host Vince: It's hard to win in the NBA.
- 49:18FRPC Host Vince: By the way, we we talk about the Western Conference like it's some sort of boogeyman.
- 49:23FRPC Host Vince: The OKC Thunder are reacting like now this is for my older people.
- 49:31FRPC Host Vince: Now, my young people that I don't know what the equivalent would be.
- 49:35FRPC Host Vince: But we used to have uh we used to have a puzzle.
- 49:40FRPC Host Vince: It's called Ruby's Q, right?
- 49:42FRPC Host Vince: And in the Ruby's Cube, you know, you had to get all the colors, all the colors, solid colors on one on all the angles of the queue, right?
- 49:54FRPC Host Vince: Now, for us normal people, yeah, we could get it.
- 50:01FRPC Host Vince: You know, somebody mix it up, we can get it.
- 50:04FRPC Host Vince: You know, take us a while, but we can get it.
- 50:06FRPC Host Vince: But OKC is acting like those geniuses that would do it like in like 12 moves.
- 50:12FRPC Host Vince: They just look at the cube, alright, cool, too do do, do, do, do, do, then hand it back to you.
- 50:18FRPC Host Vince: Done.
- 50:19FRPC Host Vince: You got anything more challenging?
- 50:22FRPC Host Vince: That's what Oklahoma City Thunder is doing right now, to supposedly the most competitive western conference that we've ever seen.
- 50:33FRPC Host Vince: And again, I don't I don't think that this defensive rating will stand as it is right now.
- 50:40FRPC Host Vince: But being six points ahead of everybody else, and you're you're keeping people at 103 points is absurd.
- 50:49FRPC Host Vince: It's absolutely absurd.
- 50:51FRPC Host Vince: So there's not much more to say about that.
- 50:55FRPC Host Vince: Except that be scared of the rest of the NBA.
- 51:02FRPC Host Vince: Be very scared of what you're seeing.
- 51:06FRPC Host Vince: Because they can turn it on like a switch.
- 51:09FRPC Host Vince: And it's not they don't ever turn it off, usually.
- 51:12FRPC Host Vince: They just hype up the intensity of the defense.
- 51:16FRPC Host Vince: And they can come at you with waves, waves of players, waves of players that know their role, that understand it, that are rooting for you know, the superstars are rooting for the other guys, the other guys who are like regular rotation guys are are rooting for the guys who are getting chances to play.
- 51:36FRPC Host Vince: It is really the best AAU team that I've ever seen in my whole entire life, basically.
- 51:43FRPC Host Vince: Okay, there's two things that we want to talk about before we get to this Jokic thing, and I don't want to like go crazy about this, but uh did anybody see the Cam Whitmore dunk over Jalen Duran earlier this week?
- 51:55FRPC Host Vince: That was foul.
- 51:58FRPC Host Vince: Now Detroit is awesome.
- 52:01FRPC Host Vince: They are they are leading the East, they are holding it down like like Joe Frazier back in the like 70s.
- 52:09FRPC Host Vince: They just like, we will knock any fool out that come and try to test us.
- 52:14FRPC Host Vince: Cam Whipmore came to test.
- 52:17FRPC Host Vince: Okay, he came down that lane and said, I am here to exterminate life.
- 52:24FRPC Host Vince: And it just so happened that Jalen Doran was standing in the way and he got yanked on on a serious level.
- 52:33FRPC Host Vince: But not to be outdone.
- 52:37FRPC Host Vince: Kate Cunningsham's dunk on our guy Andre Drummond in Philadelphia was also ridiculous.
- 52:47FRPC Host Vince: This dude came screaming down the lane.
- 52:49FRPC Host Vince: Now, this is Kay Cunningham, okay?
- 52:52FRPC Host Vince: We don't look at Kay Cunningham and think, oh, he got incredible bounce, he got this, he got, you know, he got all this, you know, this levitation and all this other stuff.
- 53:01FRPC Host Vince: We do not think of Kay Cunningham that way.
- 53:04FRPC Host Vince: But I'm gonna tell you right then and there, I bet you Andre Drummond didn't think of Kay Cunningham that he was gonna gam on him so dis undisrespectfully, unceremoniously, just yam on you, look and make you look like you some sort of like refugee or prisoner.
- 53:21FRPC Host Vince: Nice dunks.
- 53:23FRPC Host Vince: But you know what was the commonality in that?
- 53:26FRPC Host Vince: Detroit.
- 53:26FRPC Host Vince: And you know what also the commonality in that they but they won both those games.
- 53:31FRPC Host Vince: They came back and beat Washington and then they uh they put it to Philadelphia as well.
- 53:36FRPC Host Vince: So, yes, no regards to human life whatsoever, both of them.
- 53:42FRPC Host Vince: But you know who also has no regard for human life?
- 53:46FRPC Host Vince: That is Nicola Jokic.
- 53:48FRPC Host Vince: And we need to get into this.
- 53:50FRPC Host Vince: So a couple nights ago, he played the Clippers.
- 53:53FRPC Host Vince: Um nights are box scores.
- 53:58FRPC Host Vince: This one was the thesis of defense.
- 54:01FRPC Host Vince: Denver walks into the intuitive, and the Clippers say, We'll live with Jokic scoring.
- 54:08FRPC Host Vince: We'll take away the passing, we'll take away his alternate routes, because you know Jokic likes to keep his uh field goal attempts to around 15 a game, right?
- 54:18FRPC Host Vince: So, if I told you that Nicola Jokic was 18 of 23, he was five of six from three, and then he was 14 out of 16 from the free throw line.
- 54:34FRPC Host Vince: My my wife will love that.
- 54:35FRPC Host Vince: She will love that part.
- 54:37FRPC Host Vince: He had 12 boards and six dimes, and he was disrespectful to the Clippers by quarter.
- 54:45FRPC Host Vince: He had 25 in the first, he had 19 in the demolition uh quarter number three, and the Nuggets dropped a 43 to 22 haymaker in that third period, and they beat the Clippers 130 to 116.
- 55:02FRPC Host Vince: Denver's second chance points in that game was uh 20 to 8.
- 55:09FRPC Host Vince: They had 54 paint points, and they also had 13 fast break points.
- 55:17FRPC Host Vince: Aaron Gordon was a plus 28 with 18 points, and we just talked about the Clippers and their record.
- 55:27FRPC Host Vince: Well, guess what?
- 55:28FRPC Host Vince: 3-8 is not what it where it's gonna be.
- 55:31FRPC Host Vince: By the way, you owe their pick to OKC.
- 55:36FRPC Host Vince: Nuggets are 9-2.
- 55:38FRPC Host Vince: Cute start, right?
- 55:40FRPC Host Vince: When you look at Oklahoma City being 12-1.
- 55:43FRPC Host Vince: So check out these numbers in the first quarter for Jokic.
- 55:47FRPC Host Vince: He was he had 25 points, right?
- 55:50FRPC Host Vince: But he shot, he was eight of eleven from all over the fi from all over the court.
- 55:57FRPC Host Vince: He was two of three from three-point land, and he was perfect at the line.
- 56:02FRPC Host Vince: He was seven to seven.
- 56:04FRPC Host Vince: LA's drop and stay home playing keeps shooters quiet while the hub catches on the move and walks into rhythm threes.
- 56:15FRPC Host Vince: 100%.
- 56:16FRPC Host Vince: Now the Clickers did surge in the second quarter to a 10-point lead behind Harden's free throws and Bogdanovich threes, but Denver answers with AG's plug back and two above the break Jokic bombs by halftime, and they are 68-63.
- 56:39FRPC Host Vince: Now, this is where the ambulance this is where the avalanche happens.
- 56:44FRPC Host Vince: The Nuggets, 15 to 21 in the third quarter.
- 56:49FRPC Host Vince: They were 9 of 12 from the free throw line.
- 56:53FRPC Host Vince: They score 43 points.
- 56:54FRPC Host Vince: Jokic goes 7 of 7.
- 56:58FRPC Host Vince: Okay?
- 56:58FRPC Host Vince: I will say that again.
- 57:00FRPC Host Vince: He was also perfect at the three-point line.
- 57:05FRPC Host Vince: Oh, he was he was actually mortal.
- 57:08FRPC Host Vince: He was 4 of 5 from free throw line.
- 57:11FRPC Host Vince: He had five boards in the third quarter.
- 57:13FRPC Host Vince: He had four assists, and they absolutely demolished the Clippers while Jokic was doing all this.
- 57:21FRPC Host Vince: We told you what he did, right?
- 57:23FRPC Host Vince: The Clippers had one more field goal than Jokic did in the third quarter.
- 57:29FRPC Host Vince: So he went 7-7.
- 57:30FRPC Host Vince: The Clippers went eight of 22.
- 57:33FRPC Host Vince: They had six turnovers and they scored 22 points.
- 57:36FRPC Host Vince: And that was ball game.
- 57:38FRPC Host Vince: It was over from there.
- 57:40FRPC Host Vince: Diver wins the offensive boards 11-2.
- 57:46FRPC Host Vince: And keep in mind, this is with Ivica Zubach on the other side, and also uh Brooke Lopez.
- 57:53FRPC Host Vince: So you got two non-slouches at the center position, two guys who usually rebound their position very well, and they could not hold a candle to what Nicole Jokic and Aaron Gordon was doing.
- 58:07FRPC Host Vince: This turns into 20 second chance points.
- 58:12FRPC Host Vince: Still wins in transition 13-4 on a May shot night.
- 58:18FRPC Host Vince: You know what I'm saying?
- 58:19FRPC Host Vince: It was great.
- 58:20FRPC Host Vince: It was structured, it wasn't vibes.
- 58:22FRPC Host Vince: You want to talk, you want to talk about Jokic postgame?
- 58:26FRPC Host Vince: Check this out.
- 58:27FRPC Host Vince: We play our brand of basketball.
- 58:30FRPC Host Vince: We don't hunt a winner.
- 58:33FRPC Host Vince: Okay?
- 58:35FRPC Host Vince: We look for the best shot available.
- 58:38FRPC Host Vince: Bleeds into Aaron Gordon, Christian Brown, our guy Jamal Murray.
- 58:48FRPC Host Vince: It's the next action mentality.
- 58:51FRPC Host Vince: When we lead, when we lead when we when the let when the late when the lead flipped, when they went from clippers up by five to us up by 20.
- 59:04FRPC Host Vince: That's how it goes down.
- 59:06FRPC Host Vince: Yoki's efficiency, he is uh 78.3 uh second field goal percentage on jumpers.
- 59:13FRPC Host Vince: Again, he was five or six from three-point land.
- 59:17FRPC Host Vince: They also went to the free throw line 35 times as a team, and they were 29 of 35.
- 59:27FRPC Host Vince: They were plus nine on the offensive glass by itself.
- 59:33FRPC Host Vince: Now the Clippers, they shot 94.7% from the free throw line, but they didn't live there.
- 59:38FRPC Host Vince: Because here's the free throw disparity.
- 59:41FRPC Host Vince: When the Nuggets have 35 attempts at the free throw line, and the Clippers have 19, that lets you know what you need.
- 59:48FRPC Host Vince: That's that lets you know everything you have to know.
- 59:51FRPC Host Vince: We were aggressive in the paint.
- 59:53FRPC Host Vince: We got Aaron Gordon, we got Jamal Murray, we got Christian Brown.
- 59:58FRPC Host Vince: Yo, we're gonna get into this.
- 59:59FRPC Host Vince: Paint and we're gonna make things difficult for you.
- 1:00:03FRPC Host Vince: Denver's optionality and roster design, enough shooters to keep you honest, enough athletes like Aaron Gordon and also Christian Brown and Peyton Watson to punish switches enough big depth in our guy Jonas Valentunas minutes.
- 1:00:21FRPC Host Vince: And that's the difference between the Nuggets this year and the Nuggets last year.
- 1:00:26FRPC Host Vince: So Michael Malone's uh screams of poverty of a bench last year that led to his own undoing is basically the rallying cry for the Denver Nuggets this year.
- 1:00:39FRPC Host Vince: They got a bench this year.
- 1:00:41FRPC Host Vince: You got Peyton Watson coming off that bench.
- 1:00:43FRPC Host Vince: You got uh Bruce Brown, Bruce B as my uh guy Michael Malone calls him.
- 1:00:48FRPC Host Vince: I love Michael Malone.
- 1:00:50FRPC Host Vince: He's doing good work for ESPN's fantastic situation.
- 1:00:54FRPC Host Vince: He lost his job because of this.
- 1:00:56FRPC Host Vince: Uh Jonas Valentinous as well.
- 1:00:58FRPC Host Vince: You know what I'm saying?
- 1:01:00FRPC Host Vince: Also, Tim Hardaway Jr.
- 1:01:01FRPC Host Vince: being there is fantastic, doing big things.
- 1:01:05FRPC Host Vince: I love it.
- 1:01:06FRPC Host Vince: I love all of what they're doing.
- 1:01:08FRPC Host Vince: The coverage won the zoo drop plus top lock.
- 1:01:12FRPC Host Vince: Diver ruins a pin down to pop.
- 1:01:15FRPC Host Vince: Jokic catches above the break with a square base, no closeout, can contest a 5-6 from three night.
- 1:01:24FRPC Host Vince: Late doubles, too late on reverse pivots.
- 1:01:28FRPC Host Vince: He's already at the dotted line.
- 1:01:31FRPC Host Vince: Automatic foul or soft hook.
- 1:01:35FRPC Host Vince: 14-16 from the line, 54 paint points.
- 1:01:39FRPC Host Vince: And then you try to put a small on him, switching everything.
- 1:01:42FRPC Host Vince: That's an immediate deep seal, foul economy.
- 1:01:46FRPC Host Vince: You know what's going down.
- 1:01:48FRPC Host Vince: He's an absolute computer.
- 1:01:50FRPC Host Vince: He's a supercomputer that is in a pudgy uh Pillsbury dog body.
- 1:01:55FRPC Host Vince: No, it's not.
- 1:01:56FRPC Host Vince: He's in good shape this year.
- 1:01:58FRPC Host Vince: But you know I'm talking about, and he's not like body beautiful, but he's in good enough shape to run up and down that court.
- 1:02:05FRPC Host Vince: This is uh Continental Cuisine cooked by NBA Heat.
- 1:02:11FRPC Host Vince: You told a seven footer who grew up reading side top pick and rolls to shoot the ball.
- 1:02:18FRPC Host Vince: He said bet and gave you five threes.
- 1:02:23FRPC Host Vince: The feather floater, the duck in, the trail nuke at five fifty five forty-six in the third quarter.
- 1:02:32FRPC Host Vince: That third was Madrid spacing in a Colorado body.
- 1:02:39FRPC Host Vince: Y'all didn't take away the passing lanes.
- 1:02:43FRPC Host Vince: You hear from the rotations, the glass printed receipts, 20 second chance points, and your stay home wings stayed home on a loss.
- 1:02:53FRPC Host Vince: For sure.
- 1:02:55FRPC Host Vince: Congrats to congrats on holding Denver to only 13 made threes.
- 1:03:00FRPC Host Vince: Oh my god.
- 1:03:05FRPC Host Vince: You decided to to allow Nikola Jokic to get shots.
- 1:03:10FRPC Host Vince: That was your plan?
- 1:03:11FRPC Host Vince: Your plan was to make him be more aggressive.
- 1:03:15FRPC Host Vince: Okay.
- 1:03:16FRPC Host Vince: That was cool last year.
- 1:03:20FRPC Host Vince: When he didn't have a lot of help off the bench.
- 1:03:23FRPC Host Vince: You can't do that this year.
- 1:03:24FRPC Host Vince: This man is getting he was playing 42 minutes a game last year.
- 1:03:29FRPC Host Vince: He's playing, what, 34 right now?
- 1:03:33FRPC Host Vince: Like this is a holiday for him.
- 1:03:35FRPC Host Vince: And he's not on the bench stressing out like, oh my god, we had an 18-point lead when I went to the bench.
- 1:03:42FRPC Host Vince: I just took my first sip of Gatorade, and we're up by six.
- 1:03:47FRPC Host Vince: How is this even possible?
- 1:03:49FRPC Host Vince: That's what his what his life was last year.
- 1:03:52FRPC Host Vince: Guess what his life is this year?
- 1:03:54FRPC Host Vince: It is peaches and cream.
- 1:03:56FRPC Host Vince: Okay?
- 1:03:56FRPC Host Vince: He's getting it in.
- 1:03:58FRPC Host Vince: He got backups.
- 1:04:00FRPC Host Vince: These dudes off the bench are getting it done.
- 1:04:02FRPC Host Vince: There's a lot of productivity.
- 1:04:04FRPC Host Vince: By the way, by the way, the Calvin Booth experiment of Zeke Nashi is over.
- 1:04:11FRPC Host Vince: We never hear that dude's name anymore.
- 1:04:14FRPC Host Vince: Those minutes are being replaced with Giannis Valentunis, not Dario Sarich.
- 1:04:20FRPC Host Vince: No, no shade to Dario Sarich, but Yonas Valentunas is a good backup big when you're saying, hey, bro, we need 12 to 14 solid minutes from you every single night.
- 1:04:35FRPC Host Vince: We don't need 25.
- 1:04:37FRPC Host Vince: We don't need 22.
- 1:04:40FRPC Host Vince: We need 15 minutes tops.
- 1:04:43FRPC Host Vince: Tops.
- 1:04:46FRPC Host Vince: Four, you know, maybe six minutes in the second quarter.
- 1:04:53FRPC Host Vince: Six minutes in the third quarter.
- 1:04:56FRPC Host Vince: You know what I'm saying?
- 1:04:57FRPC Host Vince: Maybe even less.
- 1:04:58FRPC Host Vince: Like we might go three, six, three, three.
- 1:05:02FRPC Host Vince: You know what I'm saying?
- 1:05:04FRPC Host Vince: We we don't need a lot from you.
- 1:05:06FRPC Host Vince: We just need a little bit.
- 1:05:10FRPC Host Vince: And when we give when we get a little bit from you, it's gotta be productive a little bit.
- 1:05:16FRPC Host Vince: And he's like, Bet.
- 1:05:17FRPC Host Vince: When Jamal Murray can only score 15 points and they dominate, you know it's a problem.
- 1:05:23FRPC Host Vince: This is the problem with slogan schemes.
- 1:05:27FRPC Host Vince: Make him score.
- 1:05:28FRPC Host Vince: It isn't a plan, it's a prayer, especially when he's gonna have help.
- 1:05:33FRPC Host Vince: He doesn't need perfect spacing.
- 1:05:36FRPC Host Vince: He just needs a clean catch.
- 1:05:38FRPC Host Vince: Give that, give him that in that third quarter, right.
- 1:05:42FRPC Host Vince: The next opponent trying to the no-kick out doctrine.
- 1:05:47FRPC Host Vince: Chart the five or six three-point shots that this man made.
- 1:05:54FRPC Host Vince: You know what I'm saying?
- 1:05:56FRPC Host Vince: Like, don't don't trip no more.
- 1:05:58FRPC Host Vince: I want to get into something that it's a feel-good Friday.
- 1:06:03FRPC Host Vince: I want people to to go away with some laughs and some humor and what have you.
- 1:06:08FRPC Host Vince: So we're gonna get to this.
- 1:06:10FRPC Host Vince: Um, it's a 10 top 10.
- 1:06:12FRPC Host Vince: What are you thinking quotes in the last 10 years?
- 1:06:16FRPC Host Vince: So, some quotes don't just age badly, they curdle in real time.
- 1:06:22FRPC Host Vince: Sports, Hollywood, Silicon Valley, same disease.
- 1:06:26FRPC Host Vince: We've seen this build the be the future of TV.
- 1:06:32FRPC Host Vince: Pitches that vanish in six months, culture defining festivals, promises of turn into cheese sandwiches, and feminists, and the soda empire swearing that the new recipe would be forever.
- 1:06:49FRPC Host Vince: Hot mics, write checks, the receipts collect interest.
- 1:06:54FRPC Host Vince: So tonight, it's not just Ja, I'm fine with the West or Kyrie, we don't need head coaches or whatever case may be.
- 1:07:02FRPC Host Vince: It's a museum tour of confident microphones and unforgiving outcomes.
- 1:07:07FRPC Host Vince: Ja swagger became OKC's bulletin board.
- 1:07:11FRPC Host Vince: Kyrie's coach optional philosophy was foreshadowed by the Nets era, never even coming to fruition.
- 1:07:18FRPC Host Vince: Um, you know, Jimmy's legendary practice rant.
- 1:07:23FRPC Host Vince: We I can't wait to get into all this.
- 1:07:25FRPC Host Vince: So, what I want to do is I want to give you a couple what we call honorable mentions.
- 1:07:32FRPC Host Vince: Uh, I I spent a lot of time on this, so just bear with me.
- 1:07:36FRPC Host Vince: So, again, these are the y'all what what just happened?
- 1:07:41FRPC Host Vince: Alright, so let's start with our guy James Harden.
- 1:07:46FRPC Host Vince: When he made the meme basically happen, I am the system.
- 1:07:52FRPC Host Vince: Y'all remember that a couple years ago?
- 1:07:57FRPC Host Vince: When he sat there and said he was like, Oh, I'm not part of a system, I am the system.
- 1:08:03FRPC Host Vince: My man was laying down like I am a point guard of the highest order.
- 1:08:09FRPC Host Vince: And where did that get them?
- 1:08:11FRPC Host Vince: That was an exit to the Denver Nuggets.
- 1:08:14FRPC Host Vince: You ain't going nowhere.
- 1:08:15FRPC Host Vince: Get you get out of here, get out of town with that.
- 1:08:17FRPC Host Vince: Does anybody remember the Patrick Beverly there they were scared to guard me in the playing parade when he was with the uh Minnesota Timberwolves?
- 1:08:28FRPC Host Vince: Patrick Beverly be saying some wild stuff, boy.
- 1:08:32FRPC Host Vince: Wild stuff.
- 1:08:33FRPC Host Vince: God bless you, Patrick Beverly.
- 1:08:35FRPC Host Vince: God bless you and a in a live microphone, my guy.
- 1:08:39FRPC Host Vince: Now, Kevin Durant hit us with the You know who I am.
- 1:08:44FRPC Host Vince: That was an iconic win cash ammo when it isn't.
- 1:08:49FRPC Host Vince: Listen, let me tell you something.
- 1:08:51FRPC Host Vince: Kevin Durant is one of the most efficient score uh score killers of this era.
- 1:08:58FRPC Host Vince: Okay, he is one of the greatest uh forwards of all time.
- 1:09:03FRPC Host Vince: No doubt.
- 1:09:04FRPC Host Vince: Can get a shot whenever he wants it.
- 1:09:07FRPC Host Vince: I will say this though.
- 1:09:10FRPC Host Vince: When you say you know who I am, and you can't get Phoenix to, you know, yeah, you can't get him to do anything, bro.
- 1:09:17FRPC Host Vince: Gotta keep, you know, keep that gun in your holster a little bit.
- 1:09:21FRPC Host Vince: Oh, Joseph Laker, with we're light years ahead.
- 1:09:25FRPC Host Vince: It's good while you're winning, but you gotta understand that as soon as you said that, every team in the NBA was coming to get you.
- 1:09:35FRPC Host Vince: I mean, every team in the NBA was just like, yo, did you hear what this fool said?
- 1:09:42FRPC Host Vince: I don't care how good that team is, we're gonna find a way to beat them.
- 1:09:46FRPC Host Vince: And guess what?
- 1:09:47FRPC Host Vince: They did.
- 1:09:48FRPC Host Vince: They beat you with a salary cap.
- 1:09:51FRPC Host Vince: So, our number 10, what were you thinking moment is called Anthony Towns.
- 1:09:58FRPC Host Vince: When I retire, people will say I changed the game in 2023.
- 1:10:02FRPC Host Vince: Huge talent, time and cosplay.
- 1:10:08FRPC Host Vince: Let the decade write your plaque.
- 1:10:10FRPC Host Vince: Okay.
- 1:10:11FRPC Host Vince: This is a Hall of Fame speeches that go after Corey's not instead of one.
- 1:10:17FRPC Host Vince: Vision boards don't hang banners.
- 1:10:21FRPC Host Vince: You can't have prophecy without proof is poetry.
- 1:10:25FRPC Host Vince: Beautiful but light, stack years, stack rounds, then talk different.
- 1:10:34FRPC Host Vince: And as far as stretch bigs are concerned, context matters more.
- 1:10:39FRPC Host Vince: Change the game by beating the game.
- 1:10:42FRPC Host Vince: Have deep runs in the playoff, all NBA situations.
- 1:10:46FRPC Host Vince: Scars that mean something.
- 1:10:49FRPC Host Vince: Like my man out here talking cash shit.
- 1:10:53FRPC Host Vince: Call Anthony Towns.
- 1:10:56FRPC Host Vince: Dope.
- 1:10:57FRPC Host Vince: Dope on the microphone.
- 1:10:59FRPC Host Vince: Uh this hey.
- 1:11:05FRPC Host Vince: I bring dominance.
- 1:11:11FRPC Host Vince: My name is Dominatin.
- 1:11:14FRPC Host Vince: First of all, you nicknamed yourself.
- 1:11:18FRPC Host Vince: Okay, you nicknamed yourself.
- 1:11:22FRPC Host Vince: And you are making 35 million dollars, bro.
- 1:11:28FRPC Host Vince: Nickname yourself is crazy.
- 1:11:31FRPC Host Vince: Remember, you were getting bullied by a 5 foot eleven coin guard in Phoenix.
- 1:11:38FRPC Host Vince: To get you to play harder.
- 1:11:42FRPC Host Vince: Yo, brand before resume invites open season for sure.
- 1:11:49FRPC Host Vince: The merch drop before the mixtape.
- 1:11:51FRPC Host Vince: That's how you get booed at your own release party.
- 1:11:55FRPC Host Vince: Dominance is a stat line, not a slogan.
- 1:11:59FRPC Host Vince: Whew, uh listen.
- 1:12:04FRPC Host Vince: And the thing about it is that you gotta want to back this up.
- 1:12:08FRPC Host Vince: You know what I'm saying?
- 1:12:08FRPC Host Vince: You gotta have an alpha equity, you know, earn usage.
- 1:12:14FRPC Host Vince: You gotta want the ball, you gotta have two-way persistence.
- 1:12:17FRPC Host Vince: Then you can workshop nicknames in May.
- 1:12:21FRPC Host Vince: Like in playoff time, bro.
- 1:12:23FRPC Host Vince: Like what let other people give you the nickname.
- 1:12:27FRPC Host Vince: What are we doing?
- 1:12:28FRPC Host Vince: It's crazy.
- 1:12:31FRPC Host Vince: Oh.
- 1:12:35FRPC Host Vince: Yes.
- 1:12:37FRPC Host Vince: This is a this is a Odie but a goodie.
- 1:12:40FRPC Host Vince: We love it.
- 1:12:41FRPC Host Vince: And it comes from the Sacramento uh Kings owner, Vivek Randad.
- 1:12:45FRPC Host Vince: Buddy Hill is has Steph Curry potential.
- 1:12:49FRPC Host Vince: Come on, man.
- 1:12:52FRPC Host Vince: What?
- 1:12:53FRPC Host Vince: Now Buddy Hill.
- 1:12:54FRPC Host Vince: He played with the Golden State Warriors.
- 1:12:59FRPC Host Vince: He's still not Steph Curry.
- 1:13:00FRPC Host Vince: That comp was became year-long bit.
- 1:13:04FRPC Host Vince: How can you compare yourself?
- 1:13:09FRPC Host Vince: You're a Camry to a spaceship.
- 1:13:12FRPC Host Vince: Just change the oil on time, set the clock five minutes fast, and you know, we'll see.
- 1:13:22FRPC Host Vince: I mean you can sit here and you know and hope.
- 1:13:26FRPC Host Vince: Hope is cheat.
- 1:13:29FRPC Host Vince: Timelines are expensive.
- 1:13:31FRPC Host Vince: You fed the fans dessert before you fed them dinner, and then wonder why they wanted cake every night.
- 1:13:38FRPC Host Vince: And I'm gonna tell you right now, I don't care how hard you squint, there's no way in hell you see Steph Curry when you look at Buddy Hill.
- 1:13:47FRPC Host Vince: No chance in hell.
- 1:13:51FRPC Host Vince: Love that by V V8 Rhonda D V.
- 1:13:54FRPC Host Vince: That's why his team still sucks right now.
- 1:13:57FRPC Host Vince: Oh, this is great.
- 1:14:00FRPC Host Vince: I love this one.
- 1:14:01FRPC Host Vince: Number seven.
- 1:14:02FRPC Host Vince: Michael Porter Jr.
- 1:14:04FRPC Host Vince: In 2020.
- 1:14:07FRPC Host Vince: Podium plea for more touches.
- 1:14:10FRPC Host Vince: He said while sharing oxygen with Jokic, think about that.
- 1:14:15FRPC Host Vince: The Vets heard him line line jump.
- 1:14:19FRPC Host Vince: How is it that Michael Porter Jr.
- 1:14:23FRPC Host Vince: This is when I thought for sure after they won that championship, I thought for sure this dude was gonna be like, this should be my team.
- 1:14:32FRPC Host Vince: We we won a championship because of me.
- 1:14:34FRPC Host Vince: No damn well Jokic is the man.
- 1:14:36FRPC Host Vince: We just talked about Jokic a minute ago and his efficient 55 on 23 shots.
- 1:14:43FRPC Host Vince: That man put up 55 points on 23 shots, and you out here talking about I want more touches.
- 1:14:51FRPC Host Vince: That is why you are in Brooklyn.
- 1:14:53FRPC Host Vince: Cam Johnson ain't even shooting good.
- 1:14:56FRPC Host Vince: He's not we ain't worried about Cam Johnson.
- 1:14:59FRPC Host Vince: Cause Jokic is awesome.
- 1:15:01FRPC Host Vince: You talking about tone death.
- 1:15:03FRPC Host Vince: You talking about somebody who obviously needed some some perspective on life.
- 1:15:09FRPC Host Vince: We still don't know if our guy, Michael Porter Jr.
- 1:15:13FRPC Host Vince: has a lot of perspective on life.
- 1:15:15FRPC Host Vince: Oh, number six, Dylan Brooks, when he was with the Memphis Grizzlies.
- 1:15:22FRPC Host Vince: I poke Bears.
- 1:15:23FRPC Host Vince: I don't respect nobody until they give me 40.
- 1:15:26FRPC Host Vince: Man, did that backfire?
- 1:15:29FRPC Host Vince: My guy.
- 1:15:30FRPC Host Vince: Woo! It this activated a whole movement.
- 1:15:36FRPC Host Vince: And I remember when this happened when he said this, and then the series was over, and they were talking about that dude like have fun in China.
- 1:15:46FRPC Host Vince: That rent dude talk bronze didn't just drop 40.
- 1:15:52FRPC Host Vince: He dropped the keys to your apartment and told security to let him in.
- 1:15:58FRPC Host Vince: Yeah, you can be the villain all you want, but you better be be the be the one winning.
- 1:16:04FRPC Host Vince: Don't give the best era narrative ammo.
- 1:16:10FRPC Host Vince: Your brand feeds off noise.
- 1:16:12FRPC Host Vince: His is legacy.
- 1:16:14FRPC Host Vince: It feeds off outcomes.
- 1:16:16FRPC Host Vince: Get which diet wins most often.
- 1:16:19FRPC Host Vince: You literally wanted to poke the bear and the bear was LeBron James.
- 1:16:26FRPC Host Vince: Are you kidding me, dog?
- 1:16:27FRPC Host Vince: Like what come on man?
- 1:16:29FRPC Host Vince: I mean this was wrestling energy with NBA consequences, no doubt.
- 1:16:35FRPC Host Vince: There was no art to provocation, the measure, the equity you're staking.
- 1:16:43FRPC Host Vince: You went all in on theatrics without hedging your protection.
- 1:16:48FRPC Host Vince: Oh, Kevin Durant from 2017 to 2019, Burner Gate, OKC, and the Knicks aren't cool.
- 1:16:58FRPC Host Vince: A cool thing.
- 1:16:59FRPC Host Vince: This dude went to Brooklyn because he said the Knicks aren't cool.
- 1:17:06FRPC Host Vince: Okay.
- 1:17:07FRPC Host Vince: Brooklyn will never matter in New York City.
- 1:17:11FRPC Host Vince: Let's let's get that straight.
- 1:17:12FRPC Host Vince: They should have stayed in New Jersey.
- 1:17:14FRPC Host Vince: I understand they got the the beautiful Barclays Center, and Barclays is beautiful.
- 1:17:20FRPC Host Vince: And yes, they you know, but you could play in New You could say you're New Jersey and play in Barclays.
- 1:17:26FRPC Host Vince: We got two teams out here talking about they're the New York Giants and the New York Jets, and they play at East Rutherford, New Jersey.
- 1:17:34FRPC Host Vince: So why can't the Nets say we're New Jersey Nets and still play in Barclays?
- 1:17:39FRPC Host Vince: I don't know.
- 1:17:39FRPC Host Vince: We could still do that.
- 1:17:41FRPC Host Vince: This is an FYI.
- 1:17:42FRPC Host Vince: Remember when this dude had a secret like secret account and he was out here with burners and stuff like that?
- 1:17:52FRPC Host Vince: Just who this is star.
- 1:17:55FRPC Host Vince: You don't need to do this, man.
- 1:18:01FRPC Host Vince: Don't you have like underlings that can do this for you?
- 1:18:08FRPC Host Vince: Number four is Jimmy Butler.
- 1:18:13FRPC Host Vince: You fucking need me.
- 1:18:15FRPC Host Vince: You can't win without me.
- 1:18:17FRPC Host Vince: 2018.
- 1:18:18FRPC Host Vince: This is Minnesota Timberwolves Jimmy Butler.
- 1:18:20FRPC Host Vince: Okay?
- 1:18:21FRPC Host Vince: My man went scorched earth the building.
- 1:18:25FRPC Host Vince: This was awesome.
- 1:18:27FRPC Host Vince: This is the time where he took like third team scrubs and had a scrimmage against Carl Anthony Towns and who else was there at the time?
- 1:18:38FRPC Host Vince: I think Zach Levine and them.
- 1:18:40FRPC Host Vince: My man said, hey, that chunk change got a contract before I got a contract.
- 1:18:49FRPC Host Vince: I'm gonna show you.
- 1:18:50FRPC Host Vince: I'm gonna show you right now.
- 1:18:52FRPC Host Vince: My man went in there, clocked in with a lunch pale, and some block works, and uh it wasn't no tech talk.
- 1:19:03FRPC Host Vince: That was a garage fire with morals.
- 1:19:06FRPC Host Vince: It was disrespectful until the scoreboard agreed.
- 1:19:10FRPC Host Vince: And then he sent he sat there with Rachel Nichols and had an autobiography conversation.
- 1:19:17FRPC Host Vince: He had like a uh fireside conversation with Rachel Nichols after he literally went scorched earth during a practice.
- 1:19:25FRPC Host Vince: I think that Jimmy Butler would have been a great marine drill instructor.
- 1:19:33FRPC Host Vince: I'm trying to think of other things that Jimmy Butler would have been good at.
- 1:19:37FRPC Host Vince: Oh, he would have been a great foreign dictator.
- 1:19:41FRPC Host Vince: Cause I know that dude cold, bro.
- 1:19:44FRPC Host Vince: He cold.
- 1:19:45FRPC Host Vince: Let's see, who else?
- 1:19:49FRPC Host Vince: Who else gonna get this?
- 1:19:50FRPC Host Vince: Oh, number three, 2019, Paul George on Damian Lillard.
- 1:19:58FRPC Host Vince: That's a bad shot.
- 1:19:59FRPC Host Vince: Season ender.
- 1:20:01FRPC Host Vince: Series ender.
- 1:20:03FRPC Host Vince: Man, think about that.
- 1:20:06FRPC Host Vince: That was what 37, 38 feet away.
- 1:20:09FRPC Host Vince: My guy hits the shot, just turns around, cold, stare, stoic.
- 1:20:15FRPC Host Vince: PG, the ball disagreed with you.
- 1:20:18FRPC Host Vince: The wave would notarized it.
- 1:20:21FRPC Host Vince: Outcome always over opinion.
- 1:20:26FRPC Host Vince: The net is a peer rear view for show.
- 1:20:29FRPC Host Vince: You told uh uh a maid bucket it was imaginary.
- 1:20:34FRPC Host Vince: That's like arguing with a stop sign after a ticket.
- 1:20:38FRPC Host Vince: It went in, baby.
- 1:20:40FRPC Host Vince: The shot got a pass course stamp, and your quote became luggage tag material.
- 1:20:46FRPC Host Vince: You know how sometimes um when you like when you did uh calculus or trigger or whatever, there was no answer to the to the actual question.
- 1:20:57FRPC Host Vince: I bet you that's what Paul George was hoping for.
- 1:21:01FRPC Host Vince: He was like, I don't understand how that went in, because you ain't never won anything.
- 1:21:07FRPC Host Vince: That's why you never won anything, Paul.
- 1:21:10FRPC Host Vince: That's why you don't that's why you didn't become a Laker.
- 1:21:14FRPC Host Vince: You your trifling ass went to go play for the Clippers.
- 1:21:18FRPC Host Vince: Now they don't even want you in Philadelphia.
- 1:21:22FRPC Host Vince: Number two, this was a beauty, Kyrie Urban, like back in his like real heyday.
- 1:21:29FRPC Host Vince: Okay, I don't really see us having a head coach.
- 1:21:34FRPC Host Vince: This is Brooklyn Nets, Kyrie Urban, obviously the more mature Kyrie Urban of 2024 and 2025.
- 1:21:42FRPC Host Vince: He would never say that, but in 2020, Kyrie was on that shit.
- 1:21:47FRPC Host Vince: He was on that shit.
- 1:21:49FRPC Host Vince: He said I got Hardin and Kevin Durant.
- 1:21:56FRPC Host Vince: I don't know why we would need a head coach.
- 1:21:59FRPC Host Vince: And then decided to not play because I'm not taking any shots.
- 1:22:04FRPC Host Vince: I'm not taking any vaccinations whatsoever.
- 1:22:08FRPC Host Vince: Committees don't call timeouts, baby.
- 1:22:14FRPC Host Vince: Committees send emails when the plane hits the turbulence.
- 1:22:19FRPC Host Vince: You don't want a round table, you want a pilot.
- 1:22:23FRPC Host Vince: That line told the locker room, figure it out, and the locker room said, Who me?
- 1:22:29FRPC Host Vince: Telling that stacks like skyscrapers' leadership is a foundation.
- 1:22:34FRPC Host Vince: You can't share a vision, but you can blur a voice.
- 1:22:38FRPC Host Vince: A team without a central decision maker becomes a book club.
- 1:22:43FRPC Host Vince: Great discussion, bad execution, and when the clock shrinks, what happens?
- 1:22:48FRPC Host Vince: By the way, yeah, uh, our guy Steve Nash, who I respect a lot as a player.
- 1:22:56FRPC Host Vince: Uh, I don't know if he'll ever get another chance to coach in the NBA again.
- 1:22:59FRPC Host Vince: And I don't know if he wants it, especially after that experience with um Durant and Kyrie and James Harden and them.
- 1:23:06FRPC Host Vince: But if he does, man, I'm gonna tell you right now, he's gonna go in there and the first thing he's gonna do is he's gonna flip over a table.
- 1:23:13FRPC Host Vince: He's gonna flip over a table.
- 1:23:15FRPC Host Vince: He's gonna be like, you know what?
- 1:23:16FRPC Host Vince: I'm in charge.
- 1:23:17FRPC Host Vince: I want one of y'all to go out and say some real stupid shit against me.
- 1:23:21FRPC Host Vince: We don't need no coach.
- 1:23:23FRPC Host Vince: We good, we good, dog.
- 1:23:24FRPC Host Vince: We don't need no coach.
- 1:23:26FRPC Host Vince: We just, you know what we need?
- 1:23:27FRPC Host Vince: We need people who can get us Gatorade bottles.
- 1:23:30FRPC Host Vince: You know what I'm saying?
- 1:23:31FRPC Host Vince: Every once in a while, y'all, hey, give me one of them um give me one of them boards with the you know the dry erase board where I can draw out some plays, you know, especially for me.
- 1:23:43FRPC Host Vince: You know what I'm saying?
- 1:23:44FRPC Host Vince: I'm gonna I'm gonna take care of that for myself.
- 1:23:46FRPC Host Vince: I'm gonna get all the touches.
- 1:23:48FRPC Host Vince: And number one, and actually he shares it, is that he got one and one A.
- 1:23:54FRPC Host Vince: Okay, or what he got one A and one B.
- 1:23:57FRPC Host Vince: John Morant.
- 1:23:59FRPC Host Vince: We are good in the West.
- 1:24:02FRPC Host Vince: I'm fine in the West.
- 1:24:04FRPC Host Vince: And then what he said about the Oklahoma City Thunder.
- 1:24:08FRPC Host Vince: I've got the Thunder figured out.
- 1:24:12FRPC Host Vince: Man, John Morant.
- 1:24:16FRPC Host Vince: There's a lack of self-awareness with John Morant that really scares me.
- 1:24:22FRPC Host Vince: And I don't know if this is because of how he's been handled in Memphis, which almost belies the amount of real talent that's in that building as far as decision making uh on draft picks and things of that nature.
- 1:24:38FRPC Host Vince: They've hit on more draft picks than they missed out on for sure.
- 1:24:42FRPC Host Vince: Uh, I respect Zach Kleiman and his crew.
- 1:24:45FRPC Host Vince: Uh Tayshawn Prince is part of that crew.
- 1:24:47FRPC Host Vince: I love Tayshawn Prince.
- 1:24:49FRPC Host Vince: I think he was a hell of a basketball player, but also I think he's a good front office person, and uh I can't imagine that uh some of the antics and some of the things that John Moran has said over the years has set well with that front office.
- 1:25:05FRPC Host Vince: But here it is, John Moran saying shit.
- 1:25:08FRPC Host Vince: Just saying stuff out here, just out here, just doing the Lord's work.
- 1:25:14FRPC Host Vince: You know what I'm saying?
- 1:25:16FRPC Host Vince: If you keep your mouth shut, they can speculate whether you're a fool or not.
- 1:25:23FRPC Host Vince: But if you open your mouth, you leave no doubt.
- 1:25:26FRPC Host Vince: Uh little girl, you printed answers on the board before the teacher walked in.
- 1:25:32FRPC Host Vince: That's not confidence.
- 1:25:34FRPC Host Vince: That's a coupon for every defender to go at your neck.
- 1:25:39FRPC Host Vince: The West is that uncle who still lifts the couch by himself.
- 1:25:47FRPC Host Vince: He's not impressed by your captions and saying you figured out okay.
- 1:25:52FRPC Host Vince: See, that's like announcing that you saw math while algebra is still adding chapters.
- 1:25:59FRPC Host Vince: Now, I know John Morant's being brash is what got him to the league.
- 1:26:05FRPC Host Vince: I love when he was younger.
- 1:26:07FRPC Host Vince: We loved brash.
- 1:26:08FRPC Host Vince: I love the kid who wants all the smoke.
- 1:26:11FRPC Host Vince: That was John, that's John Morant.
- 1:26:13FRPC Host Vince: But the West Don't do affirmation affirmations.
- 1:26:20FRPC Host Vince: It does receipts.
- 1:26:22FRPC Host Vince: The second you say you got okay, see, so you're buying stock in humiliation because those kids live in the gym and they treat quotes like push-ups.
- 1:26:33FRPC Host Vince: Swaggers cool, scouting ports are cooler.
- 1:26:37FRPC Host Vince: And by the way, if you think about it, when's the last time you heard a quote from say Gilders Alexander that made you go, ooh, oh, I wish he hadn't said that.
- 1:26:48FRPC Host Vince: Has Chet Holmgren ever said anything anything inflammatory?
- 1:26:54FRPC Host Vince: The most, I don't even know if you want to call it, the most ridiculous thing that they do is they have fun with the with the sideline reporter after the games during their interviews after they blew out another team by 20 points, or whatever the case may be, and they're putting towels on top of the of the uh sideline reporter's head or whatever the case may be.
- 1:27:17FRPC Host Vince: That that's that's what they do.
- 1:27:19FRPC Host Vince: And then guess what they do?
- 1:27:20FRPC Host Vince: They go back to the locker room.
- 1:27:24FRPC Host Vince: They are asking their you know assistant coaches for the iPads with the next team's like tendencies and whatever the case may be.
- 1:27:36FRPC Host Vince: They're asking the analytics department, is there anything that we need to look for against this new team?
- 1:27:41FRPC Host Vince: And it's rinse and repeat, and we just continue to win.
- 1:27:45FRPC Host Vince: Remember, we are only like three, four years ago when John Morant in the Memphis Grizzlies was that like darling of a team where we were sitting there going, like, man, if this dude, John Morant, is the real deal like we think he is, and trust me, I believe the hype too.
- 1:28:07FRPC Host Vince: You weren't the only one that was sitting there watching John Morant, cockback dunks, and thinking to yourself, man, this is Alan Iverson in reincarnate.
- 1:28:19FRPC Host Vince: Okay?
- 1:28:19FRPC Host Vince: You weren't the only one.
- 1:28:22FRPC Host Vince: I was there too.
- 1:28:23FRPC Host Vince: I was there with you.
- 1:28:25FRPC Host Vince: I was like, oh, Jeremy Jackson Jr.
- 1:28:27FRPC Host Vince: 6'11, shoot threes.
- 1:28:29FRPC Host Vince: This is crazy.
- 1:28:31FRPC Host Vince: But here we are.
- 1:28:34FRPC Host Vince: Here we are.
- 1:28:36FRPC Host Vince: We are sitting here and we're looking at a Memphis team that is probably lottery bound.
- 1:28:41FRPC Host Vince: John Morant is shooting under 40% field goal percentage.
- 1:28:48FRPC Host Vince: I still think he is still under sweet 16 for three-point percentage, and it's a debacle on Bill Street.
- 1:28:59FRPC Host Vince: So I'm glad that you got the quotes.
- 1:29:03FRPC Host Vince: I'm glad you number one in this situation.
- 1:29:06FRPC Host Vince: You need to do less talking and more getting in the lab.
- 1:29:12FRPC Host Vince: You need to go ahead and get into that regimen of a thousand shots a day.
- 1:29:21FRPC Host Vince: Because here's the one thing that we also know about you, Ja.
- 1:29:24FRPC Host Vince: You're slight.
- 1:29:26FRPC Host Vince: And I don't mean that in a bad way, guy.
- 1:29:29FRPC Host Vince: You know what?
- 1:29:30FRPC Host Vince: Sometimes you have to augment your game.
- 1:29:33FRPC Host Vince: Sometimes to allow your speed to continue to be an ally of yours, you need to go ahead and get that jump shot squared away where it's a weapon for you.
- 1:29:43FRPC Host Vince: So now you have the defender on you.
- 1:29:45FRPC Host Vince: You know, they're up close on you.
- 1:29:47FRPC Host Vince: Now you can go ahead and do the blow by and do all the things you want to do.
- 1:29:52FRPC Host Vince: But you can't do that if they're six feet off of you and saying, Go ahead, take the shot.
- 1:29:57FRPC Host Vince: We don't think you can knock it down.
- 1:29:59FRPC Host Vince: Go ahead and take it.
- 1:30:01FRPC Host Vince: We'll go ahead and get this rebound and we'll be going back the other way.
- 1:30:04FRPC Host Vince: You are special because you are an athletic freak, and it looks some it looks like some of that athleticism has gone away due to some of the injuries that you may have uh had over the years.
- 1:30:18FRPC Host Vince: So if you don't augment your game and get your three-point shot up and get your get you a patented like runner in the lane, floater in the lane type of situation, you are going to be an afterthought, and we are going to say things like Do you remember that like three or four year span of John Moran when he was awesome?
- 1:30:38FRPC Host Vince: And that's what you're gonna end up being.
- 1:30:42FRPC Host Vince: This Friday.
- 1:30:43FRPC Host Vince: I hope you guys like that.
- 1:30:45FRPC Host Vince: It took us a while to put that together.
- 1:30:47FRPC Host Vince: Um, we're gonna be trying to do more things like that for you.
- 1:30:51FRPC Host Vince: Keep in mind, we love the participation.
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- 1:31:12FRPC Host Vince: Think of topics like this that we put together.
- 1:31:15FRPC Host Vince: You know what I'm saying?
- 1:31:16FRPC Host Vince: We'll go ahead and do something different for you down the road.
- 1:31:19FRPC Host Vince: I know on Tuesday we're gonna do some draft stuff.
- 1:31:22FRPC Host Vince: I got some draft stuff that did not even make it into this podcast.
- 1:31:25FRPC Host Vince: It's just gonna end up on the next podcast.
- 1:31:28FRPC Host Vince: So, with that being said, the best part of you is you surround yourself with people who give you light, insight, joy, and accountability.
- 1:31:36FRPC Host Vince: And if you have people like that in your life, appreciate them out loud.
- 1:31:41FRPC Host Vince: That's your real wealth.
- 1:31:43FRPC Host Vince: And if you're still finding your tribe, know this, you got one here with us at FRPC.
- 1:31:51FRPC Host Vince: Until next time, keep your mind sharp, your heart open, and your circle tight.
- 1:31:56FRPC Host Vince: I'm Vince Duke.
- 1:31:57FRPC Host Vince: See y'all next Tuesday.