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Hit Or Miss: Could Shedeur Sanders Be New Orleans Saints Next Franchise QB? · AFR Saints

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  Speaker 1: Shadur Sanders had his pro day at Colorado. After his
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  Speaker 1: pro day, Shadur Sanders, in no uncertain terms, said what
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  Speaker 1: he thought of teams that would choose not to pick
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  Speaker 1: him in the NFL draft. I love me his opportunity simple.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever franchise want, change a franchise, and there is no
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  Speaker 1: doubt who to go with. I've done it over and
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  Speaker 1: over and over. So you'll be a fool, not the
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  Speaker 1: pigmy who. I love that so much? You know what?
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  Speaker 1: Mel kipergrees mel Kiper when he was talking on Get
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  Speaker 1: Up on Tuesday, the day that his latest two round
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  Speaker 1: mock draft was released, mel Kiper talked about who he's
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  Speaker 1: had as QB one on his board from.
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  Speaker 2: Jump He's my QB one and that way pretty much
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  Speaker 2: all year. Have not changed that. Pretty much all year,
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  Speaker 2: it's been Chador Sanders for me. Others now are critical.
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  Speaker 2: They're wondering what kind of NFL quarterback in Gee why?
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  Speaker 2: Because he doesn't have the great arm. He's not going
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  Speaker 2: to run a four to six. He's not six foot four.
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  Speaker 2: But when you talk about what Tom Brady was able
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  Speaker 2: to do in the NFL, Chadoor Sandals will go about
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  Speaker 2: his business the Saint exact way at six one and
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  Speaker 2: a half to twelve. So for me in New Orleans,
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  Speaker 2: ideal fit.
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  Speaker 1: Mm. By the way, if we mentioned the fact that
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  Speaker 1: Shoulditer Sanders trains with Tom Brady too. Listen, I've I've
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  Speaker 1: been banging the shoulder Sanders drum for a while. If
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  Speaker 1: the Saints don't draft him, I'm not gonna be heartbroken.
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  Speaker 1: If he's there at nine they take him, I'll be pumped.
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  Speaker 1: I Mean, I've been very clear. When you're as bad
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  Speaker 1: as the Saints are and you need every I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: be okay with whatever they do at nine. Except there's
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  Speaker 1: two scenarios I'll not be okay with. One is drafting
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  Speaker 1: or running back. And it's not that I don't think
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  Speaker 1: Ashon Genty's a good player, it's that when you're the Saints,
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  Speaker 1: you're nowhere close to competing, and no position deteriorates and
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  Speaker 1: depreciates faster than running back. You're not going to be
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  Speaker 1: a contender while Genty's on your roster. There's no sense
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  Speaker 1: in drafting him. And by the way, your offensive line stakes.
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  Speaker 1: So that's one and two is trading up. Those are
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  Speaker 1: the two things from nine. Those are the two things
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  Speaker 1: I'm not okay with. You want to take best available
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  Speaker 1: at nine, come back in at the end of round
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  Speaker 1: one to take a quarterback, Okay, Like I'd be good
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  Speaker 1: with that. But mel Kiper in his latest mock draft,
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  Speaker 1: does in fact have the New Orleans Saints with the
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  Speaker 1: ninth pick taking Colorado quarterback should Or Sanders, and he
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  Speaker 1: notes that the Sanders do not go to the Giants.
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  Speaker 1: There aren't a lot of landing spots for him in
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  Speaker 1: the top ten. He could slide. Maybe a sat A
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  Speaker 1: team could trade up for him. Maybe the Saints who
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  Speaker 1: have nine picks could trade back in a Round one
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  Speaker 1: for Sanders somewhere along the way. There's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: ways that that could happen. Listen, I have been pretty
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  Speaker 1: consistent here with my thoughts on Shouldher Sanders. There's a
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  Speaker 1: lot he checks a lot of boxes. He has been
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  Speaker 1: a winning quarterback. He was one of the most accurate
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  Speaker 1: quarterbacks in college football, completing seventy four percent of his passes.
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  Speaker 1: This past season, he took Colorado from one win to
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  Speaker 1: four wins to nine wins. He did it with no
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  Speaker 1: semblance of a defense and getting the holy hell kicked
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  Speaker 1: out of him every single game. No quarterback in twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty three was sacked more than should Ur Sanders, and
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  Speaker 1: you never heard him calling out his lineman or anything
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  Speaker 1: like that. Oh, by the way, he's also rich and famous.
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  Speaker 1: You always wonder what's gonna happen with the guy when
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  Speaker 1: he gets to the NFL and has fame and money. Well,
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  Speaker 1: Shouldhur Sanders had fame and money his whole life, certainly
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  Speaker 1: his college career. Don't really worry about it. So I
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  Speaker 1: think he checks a ton of boxes. I'd be pumped
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  Speaker 1: if they drafted him. By the way, here was mel
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  Speaker 1: Kiper walking through the scenario of how should Sanders could
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  Speaker 1: be there on the board at nine for New Orleans.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, first of all Cleveland and the Giants Grant getting
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  Speaker 2: the best players in the GIRAFT at two and three.
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  Speaker 2: That would be Travis Hunter and Abdul Carter passing on
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  Speaker 2: the quarterback there with cam Ward going number one. That
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  Speaker 2: gets Shadore down in New Orleans. Remember I had Shador
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  Speaker 2: going three and then Jackson Dart at nine. So really
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  Speaker 2: what I'm talking about here is the Saints new head
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  Speaker 2: coach Kellen Moore, Dome team Atlanta isn't at Dome, Carolina,
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  Speaker 2: Tampa Bay, good Weather, Shador Sanders I think would be ideal.
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  Speaker 2: It would be a perfect fit going to New Orleans
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  Speaker 2: and be able to get that going. That's going the
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  Speaker 2: head coach comes in and he wants to hand pick
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  Speaker 2: his quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: I'm good with drafting a quarterback. And I think some
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  Speaker 1: of the pushback that have had from Saints fans about
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  Speaker 1: the possibility of Shadur And by the way, like I
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  Speaker 1: want to be really clear here, I'm not I'm not
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  Speaker 1: pounding the table saying this guy is gonna change your organization,
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  Speaker 1: you gotta take him at nine. I'm not pounding the
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  Speaker 1: table insisting that. But if they go through their scouting
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  Speaker 1: and their evaluation and they do love him, and he's
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  Speaker 1: there at nine and you take him, I'd be excited
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  Speaker 1: about that. I'm not sure I believe they're going to
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  Speaker 1: do it because the New Orleans Saints have been in
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  Speaker 1: existence since nineteen sixty seven and they've used the first
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  Speaker 1: round pick on a quarterback one time. You know that
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  Speaker 1: we've been through it. It's one of those things like
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  Speaker 1: when people say, well, maybe they'll trade back. Mickey Loomis
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  Speaker 1: has been the GM for a quarter century. You know
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  Speaker 1: how many times he's traded back. Never, Why do you
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  Speaker 1: think he's going to start now. It's not in his DNA,
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  Speaker 1: it's just naming what he does. Oh, he'll packets picks
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  Speaker 1: and move up, but he ain't move him back. So
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  Speaker 1: until you see it, whill you really believe it. I'll
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  Speaker 1: believe it when I see it sort of thing. But
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  Speaker 1: here's the thing about Sanders or any quarterback. Yes, of
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  Speaker 1: course there is risk at that position. For me, it's
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  Speaker 1: all about managing risk. It's why I keep saying, like
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  Speaker 1: comparing the late round picks at quarterback to the nickel slots,
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  Speaker 1: you have low risk and a potential high reward if
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  Speaker 1: you hit like Dak in round four Cousins in round five,
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  Speaker 1: or Brady in round six, or Party in round seven,
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  Speaker 1: Russ in round three, which is a little bit more
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  Speaker 1: of a risk with round three, but still point being like,
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  Speaker 1: I can tolerate. Like, if you want to take Quinn
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  Speaker 1: yours as an early late day two, early day three, sure,
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  Speaker 1: I'm pumped about that. Jackson Dart at nine, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: so excited. Want to take the best player on the
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  Speaker 1: board at nine and then Dart at forty, Great, I'm
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  Speaker 1: good with that. So I'm not like insisting they got
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  Speaker 1: to take Shadur because he's a transcendent player. That's not
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. What I'm saying is I'm good taking
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  Speaker 1: him at nine and taking that risk on a first
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  Speaker 1: round quarterback because one thing you know about the NFL
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  Speaker 1: is you're not winning at an elite level without an
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  Speaker 1: elite quarterback. And the Saints have had an elite quarterback
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  Speaker 1: once in their history, and there's a direct correlation to
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  Speaker 1: their unwillingness to draft a quarterback and their inability to
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  Speaker 1: have an elite quarterback. So if you draft a quarterback
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  Speaker 1: of the first round, you at least give yourself an opportunity.
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  Speaker 1: And yes, of course, there's a massive let's do this.
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  Speaker 1: I went back and I wrote down every first round
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  Speaker 1: pick at quarterback in the last fifteen drafts. So going
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  Speaker 1: all the way back to twenty ten, this is every
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  Speaker 1: quarterback that's gone in round one. Let's let's see if
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  Speaker 1: we can get consensus here in the room. We're just
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  Speaker 1: gonna say, is this a hit or a bust? Okay,
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  Speaker 1: probably early to tell on last year, but like Caleb Williams,
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  Speaker 1: probably early to tell too early. Jaden clearly. I mean
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  Speaker 1: we'd say hit. But at the same time, RG three
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  Speaker 1: was a Rookie of the Year. And then so let's
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  Speaker 1: just say this class is TBD. Okay, all right, but
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  Speaker 1: I think we can start with twenty twenty twenty three
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  Speaker 1: and we can start making answers like Bryce Young, miss,
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  Speaker 1: that's a miss. CJ. Stroud, h, that's a hit, Anthony Richardson, Miss,
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  Speaker 1: that's a miss. Okay. Twenty two was Kenny Pickett, Miss,
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  Speaker 1: that's a miss. Trevor Lawrence, he's got the second contract,
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  Speaker 1: he's got to an AFC Championship game. He's a start.
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  Speaker 1: He's a good starting quarterback. Zach Wilson, you'll understand that
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  Speaker 1: goes miss. Trey Lance is a miss. Fields is a miss.
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  Speaker 1: Mac Jones is a miss. Okay. Twenty twenty was Burrow,
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  Speaker 1: which is a hit. Two. I think we'd all agree
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  Speaker 1: a hit. He's a good starting qu but he's had
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  Speaker 1: concussion issues, but that's not that he can't play. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Herbert is a hit. Jordan Love is a hit. Yes, okay.
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  Speaker 1: Twenty nineteen, Kyler Murray hit hit. He's the starting quarterback
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  Speaker 1: in the NFL. He got to the second contract. Daniel
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  Speaker 1: Jones miss, Dwayne Hackins Haskins rest in peace. Miss. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield hit. I don't know that I can say
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  Speaker 1: he's a hit where the Tin draft with the Tina
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  Speaker 1: drafted starter now in the NFL, but he wasn't in Cleveland.
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  Speaker 1: It's got to be a miss for Cleveland. Uh, Sam Dart,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, let's just let's just put like a question
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  Speaker 1: mark by Baker. Then for the team that drafted him,
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  Speaker 1: I would agree miss. Okay, then miss Sam Darnold. Miss
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  Speaker 1: Josh Allen's a hit. Yes, Josh Rusen, that's a miss. Hey, right,
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  Speaker 1: he's free. Uh, Lamar Jackson. I think that's worked out
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  Speaker 1: pretty well, okay.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Mitchell Trubisky was the first quarterback taking in twenty seventeen.
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  Speaker 1: Rice Patrick Mahomes, that's a hit. Yeah. And I would
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  Speaker 1: say Deshaun Watson is a hit as well because he
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  Speaker 1: was on the trajectory to be great. It's off the
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  Speaker 1: field stuff that's led him a stray, not his play
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  Speaker 1: and then injuries in Cleveland and for the team that
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  Speaker 1: drafted him as well. Jared Goff, I'd say a hit. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm with you. He got the Rams, he got the Rams.
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  Speaker 1: Hit Carson Wentz miss miss Paxton Lynch, Miss Jamis, Miss Mariota,
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  Speaker 1: Miss Bortles, miss miss Manzell, Miss Teddy Bridgewater, Miss e
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  Speaker 1: j Manuel, Miss Andrew Luck hit Yeah, hit r G
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  Speaker 1: three Miss Ryan Tannehill. Do we give him it? He
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  Speaker 1: became a starter for Tennessee, got into an AFC championship,
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  Speaker 1: didn't he Yeah? Yeah, s say a hit? Oh wait?
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  Speaker 1: Was he drafts about Tennessee or Miami? Miami? He was
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  Speaker 1: drafted by Miami, then went to Tennessee, then miss for
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  Speaker 1: the team that draft Yah, but ended up beating Okay, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Cam was a hit. Yeah. Jake Locker, that's a miss.
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  Speaker 1: Blaine Gabbert, that's a miss. Christian Ponder that good lord,
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  Speaker 1: that's right. Sam Bradford was a hit. Yeah, Tim Tebow's
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  Speaker 1: a miss. That's every first round quarterback dating back to
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  Speaker 1: twenty ten. That's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,
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  Speaker 1: eight nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen,
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, two three, four, five, six, seven eight
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  Speaker 1: nine thirty one two three, four, five, six, seven, eight
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  Speaker 1: nine forty one two, three, four, five six. Forty seven
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  Speaker 1: quarterbacks have gone to the first round in last fifteen drafts.
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  Speaker 1: Were not counting last year's six, So we're counting forty one, okay,
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  Speaker 1: of the forty one quarterbacks that have gone in the
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  Speaker 1: first round in the last fifteen drafts, we're counting Stroud,
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  Speaker 1: Lawrence Burrow, Tua, Herbert Love, Kyler, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Mahomes,
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  Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, Goff, Andrew Luck, cam Newton, Sam Bradford. Fifteen.
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  Speaker 1: What's that math? What's fifteen divide about forty one? Fifteen? Hey, Siri,
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  Speaker 1: what's fifteen divide about forty one? Siri? Didn't pay attention
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  Speaker 1: to me? Thirty six thirty six percent. You got about
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  Speaker 1: a one out of three shot, or you got about
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  Speaker 1: one out of three shot fair it's about a about
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  Speaker 1: a one third shot that you hit. Takes shoulder at nine,
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  Speaker 1: probably about a sixty six percent chance you're gonna miss.
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  Speaker 1: Given these numbers, about a one third shot is gonna hit. Now,
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  Speaker 1: we could probably pair that down more to like, what
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  Speaker 1: about guys that went one overall or top five as
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  Speaker 1: opposed to someone like Pickett or t Bow that were later.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the top ten guys. I'm sure you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: have a higher hit rate. But there's plenty of Zach
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  Speaker 1: Wilson and Trey Lance and Sam Darnold and Mitchell Trubisky
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  Speaker 1: and Carson Wentz. There's plenty of those, Marito, There's plenty
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  Speaker 1: of those guys out there. So yeah, I mean it's
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  Speaker 1: a giant risk. But if you go up to the
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  Speaker 1: plate and you don't swing the bat, you have no
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  Speaker 1: chance of getting a hit. You've got to be willing
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  Speaker 1: to not go up there just trying to walk. You
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  Speaker 1: gotta be willing to swing the bat. So damn it,
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  Speaker 1: swing the bat. You've done it once in your franchise's history.
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  Speaker 1: Don't be afraid of the miss. Embrace the possibility of
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  Speaker 1: the hit. What if you Land, c J. Stroud, What
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  Speaker 1: if you do Land, Jayden Daniels, What if you do Land,
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  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence or Tua or Joe Burrow or Andrew Luck
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  Speaker 1: or Lamar Jackson. Yeah, it's worth it's worth the cut.
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  Speaker 1: What's the worst thing that could happen? You go five
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  Speaker 1: and twelve like you did with Derek Carr, take your shot,
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  Speaker 1: Quit living scars while you sucked for sixty years.