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- 0:00Speaker 1: As part of our continuing NFL coverage for the 12th man,
- 0:04Speaker 1: this is 12th Man News, part of Chuck's daily visit
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- 0:22Speaker 2: Good morning, Greg.
- 0:26Speaker 3: Good morning.
- 0:27Speaker 2: Happy Friday to you, sir.
- 0:29Speaker 3: Happy Friday. How was the event yesterday? It was great.
- 0:35Speaker 2: It was fantastic.
- 0:36Speaker 3: It really was.
- 0:38Speaker 4: Have you ever seen Hugh break down film before? I mean,
- 0:41Speaker 4: we've heard it for years, but there really is something
- 0:44Speaker 4: different to seeing him break down film.
- 0:47Speaker 2: It's a spectacle. Everybody loved it.
- 0:50Speaker 3: I'm sure it was packed and well-received. It was very well-received.
- 0:54Speaker 5: Of course.
- 0:55Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. It was a good night.
- 0:56Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 0:57Speaker 4: We'll do it again sometime. Yeah, you should see it.
- 1:00Speaker 4: It really is kind of eye-opening. Like, you know, all
- 1:02Speaker 4: those terms he's used over the years, and then you actually,
- 1:06Speaker 4: there were like moments where he built up to something,
- 1:08Speaker 4: and you're.
- 1:08Speaker 2: Just like, oh!
- 1:10Speaker 5: It's like the aha moment.
- 1:12Speaker 2: Yes. Yeah, it was really good. It was really good,
- 1:15Speaker 2: but thanks for asking.
- 1:16Speaker 6: People forget, I'm sorry, people forget, not only was he
- 1:20Speaker 6: an NFL quarterback, and he does it for us all
- 1:22Speaker 6: the time on the radio, he coaches and has coached
- 1:25Speaker 6: high school kids, and I say kids, but a pretty
- 1:29Speaker 6: high level of 4A football outside of high school and
- 1:31Speaker 6: his sons. And so he has to relate that to
- 1:35Speaker 6: an audience that, to say the least, may not be
- 1:39Speaker 6: able to keep up with his expertise and his details,
- 1:42Speaker 6: including ourselves and listeners. And, yeah, as intricate as he gets,
- 1:48Speaker 6: he's very relatable.
- 1:49Speaker 3: And I.
- 1:51Speaker 6: Think often of him standing up in front of a
- 1:53Speaker 6: bunch of 15- and 16-year-olds explaining it to them.
- 1:56Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:57Speaker 4: Very good. Very good event. And we look forward to
- 1:59Speaker 4: doing it again. So we just got to talk you
- 2:01Speaker 4: into it.
- 2:02Speaker 3: All right.
- 2:03Speaker 4: Well, let's dive in. Leonard Williams, he did not practice yesterday.
- 2:09Speaker 4: I'm not reading that negatively into that. It sounds to
- 2:13Speaker 4: me like, you know, he looks good on Wednesday. Why
- 2:16Speaker 4: risk it? Why risk a setback on Thursday? He's going
- 2:19Speaker 4: to be good to go on Sunday. But am I
- 2:21Speaker 4: looking at that too optimistically?
- 2:24Speaker 3: No, I think there's merit to that.
- 2:26Speaker 6: I mean, he's heading toward his mid-30s now, and it's
- 2:29Speaker 6: not as though they would need him to practice. In general,
- 2:33Speaker 6: players trend upwards in participating in practice before a game
- 2:38Speaker 6: they're going to play, and often injury, then down. But
- 2:42Speaker 6: he would be an exception to someone who doesn't have
- 2:45Speaker 6: to practice on a Thursday to play on a Sunday
- 2:47Speaker 6: for sure. It was notable that I saw him jogging
- 2:50Speaker 6: pretty freely onto the practice field, and participating at the
- 2:53Speaker 6: start of practice Wednesday, and then we didn't have him
- 2:56Speaker 6: anywhere to be seen yesterday and then was listed as
- 2:59Speaker 6: did not participate at all. So it was a step
- 3:02Speaker 6: back compared to Wednesday. Is it a step back toward
- 3:06Speaker 6: the game? That's going to probably be determined at 1
- 3:08Speaker 6: o'clock today in the injury report. But he is important
- 3:13Speaker 6: to them. A lot of the game plan for defense
- 3:16Speaker 6: is his multiplicity along the defensive line, moving from nose
- 3:20Speaker 6: all the way out to defensive tackle. A lot of
- 3:22Speaker 6: what Byron Murphy does is predicated on how Leonard Williams
- 3:26Speaker 6: does it next to him. And a lot of the 49ers'
- 3:30Speaker 6: game plan offensively is how to block number 99. It
- 3:33Speaker 6: is a big factor. His availability will be the news today, too.
- 3:39Speaker 2: Yeah, he is a big, big factor.
- 3:41Speaker 4: Ty Okada and Julian Love finally together again this Sunday?
- 3:47Speaker 3: Looks like it. Two days in a row of full
- 3:49Speaker 3: practicing for Okada. Those are his first days since August.
- 3:52Speaker 6: And he had the hamstring issues since. So if Leonard
- 3:56Speaker 6: Williams can play, this would be the full defense. The
- 3:59Speaker 6: full defense as they envisioned it to start the season
- 4:01Speaker 6: for the first time. And the full Nick Emanuari 2025 version,
- 4:06Speaker 6: it appears.
- 4:07Speaker 3: But now it's a big if with Williams.
- 4:10Speaker 4: Are there any limitations at this point with Emanuari? Not
- 4:14Speaker 4: just from the injury, but the rust? of missing a
- 4:18Speaker 4: lot of training camp. Is it safe to say that
- 4:22Speaker 4: he's now 100% the guy that we saw a year ago,
- 4:27Speaker 4: or do we still have a couple weeks before we'll
- 4:29Speaker 4: get that guy?
- 4:32Speaker 3: I think it is.
- 4:34Speaker 6: In retrospect now, you can see what McDonald and the
- 4:36Speaker 6: training staff's plan was of the slow ramp up and
- 4:39Speaker 6: gradually increasing his workload up to this game. It's not
- 4:44Speaker 6: a coincidence that his first full, full go and nearly 100%
- 4:47Speaker 6: of the snaps will be against the 49ers, a team
- 4:50Speaker 6: that he single-handedly dominated the final two games of last season.
- 4:55Speaker 6: And again, it's worth mentioning again, the only time of
- 4:57Speaker 6: the three times last year that the 49ers beat the
- 5:01Speaker 6: Seahawks was when Nicky Moore got hurt on the fourth play,
- 5:04Speaker 6: season opener last year, and he wasn't there to shut
- 5:07Speaker 6: down Kittle. He wasn't there to tackle Kittle. McCaffrey in
- 5:10Speaker 6: the open field immediately after the catch and prevent yards
- 5:13Speaker 6: after catch. Nine snaps against Arizona, only half the snaps
- 5:18Speaker 6: at Washington, three-fourths of the snaps last weekend, and here
- 5:23Speaker 6: we go with a full deal. That seems to be
- 5:25Speaker 6: the obvious plan. And as I mentioned after the game,
- 5:30Speaker 6: against the Chargers game, even Warrior said, I love this
- 5:32Speaker 6: team for that and how they've done this.
- 5:35Speaker 4: Yeah, and you've said many times, so, I mean, usually
- 5:37Speaker 4: we save a key to the game for the end
- 5:39Speaker 4: of the segment, but since we're talking about Eamon Worry,
- 5:43Speaker 4: I mean, you think that he, number three, is the
- 5:46Speaker 4: key to this game for the Seahawks, right? You haven't
- 5:49Speaker 4: changed your mind since earlier this week?
- 5:52Speaker 3: Yeah, no. There's nothing that's happened between these two teams,
- 5:55Speaker 3: between Tuesday.
- 5:56Speaker 6: And Thursday, because, again, that's the one thing that these
- 6:01Speaker 6: 49ers usually have an advantage over all of the teams.
- 6:03Speaker 6: McCaffrey has a tight end who blocks like a tackle
- 6:08Speaker 6: and catches like a wide receiver, catches and runs like
- 6:10Speaker 6: a wide receiver.
- 6:11Speaker 3: We heard on our show the other day.
- 6:13Speaker 6: That Matt Barrow, 49ers beat writer for the Athletics, said
- 6:16Speaker 6: that he was measured, Kittle was, at running 20 miles
- 6:20Speaker 6: an hour last weekend. And that's coming off of a
- 6:23Speaker 6: huge injury. So, Achilles, that on top of McCaffrey, McCaffrey
- 6:30Speaker 6: has become what he is in a zillion-dollar running back.
- 6:33Speaker 6: Because of catching in the flat and turning upfield and
- 6:35Speaker 6: beating defenders to the edge and getting by or breaking tackles,
- 6:39Speaker 6: turning four or five-yard passes into 15, 20-yard gains, he
- 6:43Speaker 6: did not do that against Nicky Maury last year. He
- 6:46Speaker 6: caught the ball and he went down because Maury.
- 6:48Speaker 3: Was right on his hip.
- 6:50Speaker 6: And there are singular players in the NFL who can
- 6:53Speaker 6: do that, and he did it in two consecutive games
- 6:56Speaker 6: against them.
- 6:57Speaker 2: Greg Bell is with us.
- 6:58Speaker 4: Our Seahawks insider, of course, joins us most every day
- 7:00Speaker 4: at 7.05 for the latest, greatest Seahawks information. They're getting
- 7:04Speaker 4: ready for their biggest test of the year so far.
- 7:06Speaker 4: The undefeated San Francisco 49ers rolling into town Sunday at
- 7:10Speaker 4: Lumen Field. A 125 kick, and so we break it
- 7:14Speaker 4: down for you here with our Seahawks insider on a
- 7:17Speaker 4: football Friday. Brock Purdy's playing as well as he's ever
- 7:21Speaker 4: played in his career. Even Seahawks players on the mic
- 7:25Speaker 4: acknowledge that. I think the comments and the compliments given
- 7:30Speaker 4: to him was how decisive he is, which, man, if
- 7:34Speaker 4: you're facing a decisive quarterback, that might be the most dangerous,
- 7:38Speaker 4: scary proposition to face in the National Football League. what
- 7:43Speaker 4: is Mike McDonald what is he going to pull from
- 7:45Speaker 4: from a year ago that he did so well to
- 7:48Speaker 4: upset Brock Purdy's rhythm what new tricks might he have
- 7:52Speaker 4: up his sleeve to try to get this guy off
- 7:55Speaker 4: of his a game that he's displayed so far this
- 7:58Speaker 4: season well.
- 8:00Speaker 6: Chuck I think it's old tricks I think he's going
- 8:03Speaker 6: to do the same thing he did last year and
- 8:05Speaker 6: that's employ him and worry at all three levels and
- 8:08Speaker 6: keep Witherspoon inside at nickel, which means almost exclusively dime,
- 8:12Speaker 6: even in running situations, which could mean big rolls for
- 8:15Speaker 6: Nehemiah Pritchett slash Trevon Diggs. I think Diggs is going
- 8:18Speaker 6: to get more than the nine snaps he had last week.
- 8:21Speaker 6: And they're going to roll with six defensive backs, Eamon
- 8:24Speaker 6: Worry and Witherspoon highlighted in the middle of the field
- 8:27Speaker 6: doing everything. And what they did last year in doing
- 8:31Speaker 6: that was putting Purdy and the 49ers in long third downs.
- 8:37Speaker 6: probably the key to Purdy's success is that he's in
- 8:40Speaker 6: short third downs where he can run or he can
- 8:42Speaker 6: pass for the first down, where Shanahan can put any
- 8:45Speaker 6: play in the playbook in there. One of the things
- 8:47Speaker 6: Seahawks players, Julian Love, I talked to him yesterday in
- 8:50Speaker 6: the locker room, one of the things that they say
- 8:52Speaker 6: about Shanahan's offense that is unique is that every play
- 8:56Speaker 6: looks the same. They can't tell run and pass tendencies
- 8:59Speaker 6: based on pre-snap formations and looks. Well, if it's third
- 9:03Speaker 6: and nine, you know they're going to throw. no matter
- 9:06Speaker 6: what the formation looks like. If it's third and two,
- 9:09Speaker 6: you can't tell from the formation whether they're going to
- 9:11Speaker 6: run or throw, and you have to then play it modestly.
- 9:14Speaker 6: And a defensive front that has to play honestly against
- 9:17Speaker 6: a run and pass with equal probability is a much
- 9:21Speaker 6: different one than a third and nine defensive front that
- 9:24Speaker 6: knows you have to throw. And that's when they've gotten
- 9:27Speaker 6: pretty uncomfortable. They've pressured him. They've been able to rush
- 9:31Speaker 6: and keep him from having a widened rushing lane so
- 9:34Speaker 6: he can.
- 9:35Speaker 3: Get out on them.
- 9:35Speaker 6: Jaron Reed has talked about how they've really focused on
- 9:38Speaker 6: rush lane discipline and not widening their gaps and trying
- 9:42Speaker 6: to go around blockers but go through them, which is
- 9:45Speaker 6: a McDonald axiom of everything he does with that team, through,
- 9:47Speaker 6: not around. But the pass rush has to go through
- 9:50Speaker 6: the linemen, not around. Through Trent Williams, which is not
- 9:54Speaker 6: easy to do, not around. Because if you go around,
- 9:57Speaker 6: then you've got these 405 size. wide lanes for Purdy
- 10:02Speaker 6: to run through for a first down. But all of that,
- 10:05Speaker 6: if it's third and nine, it's a lot harder for
- 10:06Speaker 6: Purdy to take off. Because his probability of getting the
- 10:09Speaker 6: first down is much less than his third and two.
- 10:11Speaker 6: So the key is longer third downs. That's how they
- 10:14Speaker 6: got them to three points in Week 18 and held
- 10:16Speaker 6: them to six points in the division title game, or
- 10:18Speaker 6: division playoff game last year.
- 10:21Speaker 4: You know, this running back room, I don't have a
- 10:24Speaker 4: lot of faith that the Seahawks are going to be
- 10:27Speaker 4: able to establish much of a running game.
- 10:29Speaker 2: I don't know why that is, but.
- 10:32Speaker 2: I just don't have a lot.
- 10:33Speaker 3: Of faith in it. You know why that is.
- 10:34Speaker 6: It's a dude in the backfield no one's ever heard of.
- 10:37Speaker 2: Right, okay. I do know why it is. I don't
- 10:39Speaker 2: have a lot of faith in it.
- 10:40Speaker 4: I mean, Emmanuel Wilson's had a couple good games, but
- 10:43Speaker 4: I just don't have a lot of faith this Sunday
- 10:45Speaker 4: that they're going to be able to get a ground
- 10:46Speaker 4: game going. So, number one, How will they divvy up
- 10:50Speaker 4: these carries, do you think? And then number two, if
- 10:53Speaker 4: it's not working, how long before Brian Fleury abandons it
- 10:58Speaker 4: and just turns the ball over to Sam? Will they
- 11:00Speaker 4: give it two quarters, three quarters to the end of
- 11:02Speaker 4: the game? Is there a breaking point where Fleury reaches where, hey,
- 11:08Speaker 4: I'm not just going to beat my head against the
- 11:10Speaker 4: wall if we can't run against the 49ers defense?
- 11:13Speaker 6: Well, the second thing first, we saw in Washington that
- 11:16Speaker 6: breaking point was four minutes into the game. When Jadarian
- 11:19Speaker 6: Price fumbled, they quit running. They ended up just 18
- 11:23Speaker 6: runs and 45 passes in a game they were within
- 11:26Speaker 6: one score of for much of the game. So the
- 11:30Speaker 6: ripcord was quick. That's a precedent. But Washington's defensive front
- 11:36Speaker 6: was doing what San Francisco often does, which is put
- 11:39Speaker 6: teams at third and long in Your first question, I
- 11:44Speaker 6: would not be surprised. I know he just got here,
- 11:46Speaker 6: but Robert Henry Jr., who just got here on Tuesday
- 11:51Speaker 6: off the Washington Commanders practice squad, to me is not
- 11:54Speaker 6: only going to suit up, but I think he's going
- 11:56Speaker 6: to carry.
- 11:56Speaker 3: The ball and play.
- 11:58Speaker 6: It's not like he just has been mothballed for preseason
- 12:02Speaker 6: and the first month of season. He's been practicing every day.
- 12:05Speaker 6: He just hasn't been playing. So he's in football shape
- 12:08Speaker 6: for sure. And how much he can, maybe it's a
- 12:11Speaker 6: part of the playbook. Remember, I was talking yesterday to
- 12:15Speaker 6: Jimmy Charlo. He's the practice squad linebacker they signed last
- 12:19Speaker 6: week after Buffalo released him. He's a West Point grad,
- 12:22Speaker 6: so he and I talk almost every day about Army
- 12:24Speaker 6: stuff and plebe stuff and marching and the whole West
- 12:28Speaker 6: Point experience. But he was talking to me yesterday about,
- 12:31Speaker 6: I asked him how it was going of learning the
- 12:33Speaker 6: whole playbook because his head was swimming last year. And
- 12:35Speaker 6: he said, you know what was cool, Greg, is, When
- 12:37Speaker 6: you come in in the middle of the season, you
- 12:39Speaker 6: don't have to know the whole playbook right away. You
- 12:41Speaker 6: only have to know the game plan each week because
- 12:44Speaker 6: they don't just give you a fire hose of the
- 12:45Speaker 6: whole playbook. They give you the plays you're going to
- 12:48Speaker 6: use in the game. So Robert Henry Jr. only needs
- 12:52Speaker 6: to know the plays that are going to run against
- 12:53Speaker 6: the 49ers.
- 12:54Speaker 3: He just got here.
- 12:55Speaker 6: They're not trying to give him the stuff they installed
- 12:57Speaker 6: in June and July and August. So I think he's
- 13:00Speaker 6: going to play more than some people do, and they
- 13:02Speaker 6: need a faster compliment back. And they can't afford to
- 13:06Speaker 6: line up their $ 51 million wide receiver and kickoff returner
- 13:09Speaker 6: who weighs about 150 pounds at tailback more than a
- 13:12Speaker 6: few times a game. So Rasheed will still be the
- 13:15Speaker 6: novelty piece. They'll probably keep him, as Fleury explained yesterday,
- 13:19Speaker 6: on plays that they aren't risking him injury. You don't
- 13:22Speaker 6: see him going outside zone off tackle. It'll probably be
- 13:25Speaker 6: pitch left, student body left, like it was against the Chargers.
- 13:29Speaker 4: All right, I'm going to close with this this week
- 13:31Speaker 4: since we've already discussed your key to the game. Something
- 13:34Speaker 4: that struck me yesterday, I'm like, why have I not
- 13:35Speaker 4: brought this up more this week? Maybe Ian has done it.
- 13:38Speaker 4: Maybe you've done it on your show. Maybe Softie and
- 13:40Speaker 4: Fane have talked about it until they're blue in their faces.
- 13:44Speaker 4: But I haven't talked about Brian Fleury much at all.
- 13:47Speaker 4: The Fleury factor. in this game, him coming fresh from
- 13:52Speaker 4: this organization over to the Seahawks. So how would you assess,
- 13:58Speaker 4: without having seen it, the Fleury factor for Sunday?
- 14:02Speaker 6: Well, I'm quite sure, probably starting with the interview process,
- 14:07Speaker 6: that Mike McDonald in particular has been quizzing Brian Fleury
- 14:10Speaker 6: about all he knows about the 49ers and the Shanahan
- 14:14Speaker 6: game planning and playbook for the defense, for the Seahawks'
- 14:17Speaker 6: defensive purposes. So this week just isn't all of a
- 14:21Speaker 6: sudden him going, hey, use the coach to 49ers.
- 14:23Speaker 3: Tell us what you know.
- 14:24Speaker 6: I'm sure that started in January. So, yeah, he's an
- 14:29Speaker 6: asset this week for sure. And, of course, Shanahan knows that.
- 14:33Speaker 6: And they're going to have things that the Seahawks haven't
- 14:35Speaker 6: seen before, including not on film this season, including that
- 14:38Speaker 6: they didn't do again at all in the three games
- 14:41Speaker 6: last season. But Fleury, I asked Mike McDonald about, judging
- 14:47Speaker 6: his performance through his first four games, considering this. First-time
- 14:52Speaker 6: offensive play caller, never done that before at any level.
- 14:54Speaker 6: Not high school, not college, nowhere. And in fact, he
- 14:58Speaker 6: was a defensive coach until just six years ago when
- 15:00Speaker 6: Shanahan moved him over to the offensive side with the 49ers.
- 15:04Speaker 6: First-time play caller, losing your starting quarterback in the fifth
- 15:07Speaker 6: play of the season, losing your number one running back,
- 15:09Speaker 6: and losing your starting guard.
- 15:11Speaker 3: Go. That's his first month.
- 15:14Speaker 6: And he said, He said, yeah, I never thought of
- 15:17Speaker 6: it in that frame, but considering all that, I think
- 15:20Speaker 6: he's done a hell of a job. He said what
- 15:22Speaker 6: Fleury's best attribute is is poise and steadiness no matter
- 15:25Speaker 6: what the situation. Jadarian Price fumbles for the second time
- 15:29Speaker 6: four minutes of the game in Washington.
- 15:30Speaker 3: On to the next.
- 15:32Speaker 6: Darnold throws a interception for a pick-six touchdown. They lose
- 15:35Speaker 6: for the first time in 10 months.
- 15:36Speaker 3: On to the next player.
- 15:37Speaker 6: He's very poised and steady. Darnold talks about it. There's
- 15:42Speaker 6: no urgency in his voice or in his demeanor on
- 15:45Speaker 6: the sidelines it become an asset that the offensive coordinator
- 15:49Speaker 6: play caller is not up in the booth when he's
- 15:52Speaker 6: as calm and collected as Fleury is on the sideline
- 15:54Speaker 6: that's why he's down there to relate to the players
- 15:57Speaker 6: they love him they say he's exacting he's detail oriented
- 16:01Speaker 6: he's smart they talk about how intelligent he is so
- 16:05Speaker 6: far so good the things that are ailing the Seahawks
- 16:08Speaker 6: offense is not Brian Fleury say those.
- 16:11Speaker 2: In the building alright what do you got on the
- 16:13Speaker 2: show today.
- 16:16Speaker 6: We're going to talk a little bit about last night
- 16:19Speaker 6: and the Brian Schottenheimers in Dallas. That's probably the worst
- 16:23Speaker 6: loss of the Schottenheimer era, losing to a backup undrafted
- 16:26Speaker 6: rookie quarterback at home, Buccaneers who are winless. We're going
- 16:29Speaker 6: to talk about our weekly high school football focus this
- 16:32Speaker 6: week is going to be on Seattle Prep and Mercer Island.
- 16:36Speaker 6: Mercer Island won last night. It went to 5-1. Seattle Prep,
- 16:40Speaker 6: Aaron Maul is a longtime high school football coach in
- 16:44Speaker 6: the area, has been around. Mercer Island's coach never played
- 16:47Speaker 6: the game and came up from an entirely different background,
- 16:50Speaker 6: and we're going to talk to both of them at
- 16:51Speaker 6: 11 and 11.15. Jackson Feltz is going to be helping
- 16:55Speaker 6: me out on the show because Jessamyn has gone to
- 16:57Speaker 6: Utah for tonight's Cougs game against Utah State.
- 17:01Speaker 2: Jackson's already up this morning. He's already tweeting about.
- 17:03Speaker 3: The Huskies this morning. I got him out of bed
- 17:05Speaker 3: pretty early today, yeah, for his usual.
- 17:08Speaker 2: I hope he wasn't listening to the show earlier this hour.
- 17:10Speaker 2: Please tell me he was.
- 17:13Speaker 3: Oh, were you roasting him? Yeah.
- 17:15Speaker 2: We didn't roast him. Actually, I think I pretty much
- 17:19Speaker 2: propped him up.
- 17:20Speaker 6: Really?
- 17:20Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 17:21Speaker 5: Didn't help my life, I'll tell you that much.
- 17:24Speaker 3: Oh, okay. Well, then for sure he was listening.
- 17:27Speaker 2: We'll let it go, Craig. We'll let it go. I'll
- 17:29Speaker 2: inform you later. All right, man. Thank you. We appreciate it.
- 17:32Speaker 2: Have a great show, and we'll talk to you on Monday.
- 17:35Speaker 3: All right, happy weekend. Thanks, guys.
- 17:36Speaker 2: All right, our Seahawks insider, Greg Bell.
- 17:39Speaker 4: Maybe he did hear it, and maybe they'll spend an
- 17:41Speaker 4: entire segment on Greg's show talking about it.
- 17:43Speaker 5: Yeah, something tells me that they won't, probably, even if
- 17:47Speaker 5: both of them heard it, considering both of their personalities.
- 17:50Speaker 2: But you never know.
- 17:51Speaker 5: I could be surprised.
- 17:53Speaker 2: All right, Factor Fiction coming up at 735.
- 17:56Speaker 4: Coming up next, breaking news for tonight's game between the
- 18:02Speaker 4: Huskies and the Hawkeyes. So, yeah, I'm going to use
- 18:05Speaker 4: that as a teaser going into the break. So we'll
- 18:08Speaker 4: talk about it next. Sports Radio 93.3 KJRFM. Well, we've
- 18:12Speaker 4: got some news. It is game day here on Sports
- 18:15Speaker 4: Radio 93.3 KJR FM with the Huskies hosting the Iowa
- 18:20Speaker 4: Hawkeyes tonight at 6 o'clock. Honks will start at 2 o'clock,
- 18:23Speaker 4: and we have some breaking news in regards to that
- 18:26Speaker 4: game at a very prominent position. This is something that's
- 18:28Speaker 4: been discussed throughout the course of the week. Hunter Brown,
- 18:32Speaker 4: the starting quarterback. Hunter Brown, that's the Astros pitcher.
- 18:35Speaker 3: Yeah, it is.
- 18:36Speaker 2: It's not the same name, is it?
- 18:39Speaker 5: I don't think so.
- 18:39Speaker 3: No.
- 18:40Speaker 2: I don't think so either.
- 18:41Speaker 4: Anyway, the starting quarterback for the Iowa Hawkeyes is not
- 18:45Speaker 4: going to play tonight.
- 18:48Speaker 2: Hank Brown. Hank Brown, that's right. I knew it was
- 18:50Speaker 2: an H Brown.
- 18:52Speaker 4: Jeremy Heklinski is going to replace Hank Brown tonight for
- 18:57Speaker 4: the Iowa Hawkeyes at quarterback. Now, before you as a
- 19:01Speaker 4: Husky fan, if you rejoice such things, okay, we just
- 19:04Speaker 4: diminished them at the quarterback position tonight. That should give
- 19:07Speaker 4: us a better chance of winning tonight. That's a pretty
- 19:09Speaker 4: important position. Apparently, everything that I've read this week about
- 19:14Speaker 4: Jeremy Heklinski and this possibility is that this might be
- 19:18Speaker 4: the smallest drop-off from starter to backup in the entire country.
- 19:23Speaker 4: That Heklinski and Hank Brown went down to the wire
- 19:28Speaker 4: in training camp to try to determine the starting quarterback
- 19:32Speaker 4: for the Hawkeyes this season Brown narrowly won it and
- 19:36Speaker 4: of course Hawkeye fans have been on the train of
- 19:41Speaker 4: start Heklinski Heklinski put Heklinski in there we need Heklinski
- 19:45Speaker 4: and I don't know how anyone from Iowa under the
- 19:49Speaker 4: age of 50 would even know what a good quarterback looks.
- 19:52Speaker 5: Like um don't go along with your theory of them
- 19:55Speaker 5: being the most consistent team yeah it's.
- 19:57Speaker 4: Been a long time quarterback it's been a long time
- 19:59Speaker 4: since chuck long was under center for the iowa hawkeyes
- 20:02Speaker 4: i got a really long time uh and so i'm
- 20:06Speaker 4: not sure you really know what a good quarterback looks
- 20:08Speaker 4: like but Apparently the fan base has been clamoring for
- 20:12Speaker 4: Heklinski to replace Brown all season long, and now they're
- 20:17Speaker 4: finally going to get to see him. I don't know
- 20:20Speaker 4: really much of the differences or similarities between the two
- 20:24Speaker 4: other than the size differential. Brown's like 6'4, NFL-sized quarterback.
- 20:30Speaker 4: Heklinski's 5'11. 200 pounds, and he's not really a runner.
- 20:35Speaker 4: So this might be the smallest quarterback matchup in America
- 20:39Speaker 4: this weekend.
- 20:40Speaker 5: Yeah, DeMond Williams versus Hicklinski.
- 20:42Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 20:43Speaker 5: Combined less than 12 feet.
- 20:44Speaker 4: Because you know they've exaggerated their height so that it
- 20:47Speaker 4: looks better in the program.
- 20:48Speaker 3: Of course.
- 20:49Speaker 2: So this is like 5'7 versus 5'10 probably.
- 20:52Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
- 20:53Speaker 4: And I just.
- 20:55Speaker 5: I don't know. We're in a new era. So we'll
- 20:58Speaker 5: see kind of if any of them can see over
- 21:00Speaker 5: their lines.
- 21:00Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 21:01Speaker 6: Yeah. So.
- 21:02Speaker 4: I guess Iowa fans have wanted this to happen, so
- 21:06Speaker 4: this just broke a few minutes ago that it is
- 21:08Speaker 4: going to happen. So this isn't a big shock or
- 21:12Speaker 4: a big hit to the Hawkeye faithful. They're actually going
- 21:15Speaker 4: to be excited about seeing Heklinski operate their offense.
- 21:19Speaker 2: So just passing it along.
- 21:20Speaker 4: Quarterback change for the Hawkeyes in preparation for tonight's game
- 21:24Speaker 4: out at the greatest setting in college football.
- 21:26Speaker 2: All right, let's play some Fact or Fiction. We're set
- 21:31Speaker 2: to go. Glad you're with us.
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- 21:52Speaker 5: All right.
- 21:53Speaker 2: Well, Anders. You know, this is about picking up teammates.
- 21:58Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
- 21:58Speaker 4: That's what Factor Fiction is all about from our perspective,
- 22:01Speaker 4: from our side of the table. I mean, really, it's
- 22:03Speaker 4: all about the listeners getting a chance to play a
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- 22:09Speaker 5: That's really what matters.
- 22:10Speaker 2: That's really what matters.
- 22:11Speaker 4: But from our perspective, you know, we want to pick
- 22:14Speaker 4: up our teammates. Kit had a rough night last night.
- 22:16Speaker 6: Yes, he did.
- 22:17Speaker 5: If we're talking baseball terms, you let us off. You
- 22:20Speaker 5: got on base. Kit struck out. I got to drive
- 22:23Speaker 5: you home now.
- 22:24Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to pick up Kit.
- 22:25Speaker 3: Yep.
- 22:25Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to pick up, kid. Kid, you got
- 22:28Speaker 2: any words for yourself? You want to say anything about this?
- 22:30Speaker 5: Never bet on the Cowboys again? Well, 58.3% of people
- 22:36Speaker 5: agreed with you. Yeah, that's right.
- 22:38Speaker 2: It made sense. I'm not going to lie. Think about
- 22:41Speaker 2: it this way.
- 22:42Speaker 4: Because I know you take a personal shock when you
- 22:45Speaker 4: don't get a game right, especially when it's a fact
- 22:47Speaker 4: or fiction style. But think about all the people you
- 22:50Speaker 4: made happy who picked the Buccaneers against you last night.
- 22:53Speaker 4: You made a lot of people happy last night, kid.
- 22:56Speaker 4: Think about that.
- 22:56Speaker 2: I'll take it.
- 22:58Speaker 5: You can't win them all, boys. He's trying to find
- 23:00Speaker 5: a silver lining at all.
- 23:01Speaker 2: All right, Anders, who are you picking today?
- 23:03Speaker 5: Well, as tempting as your breaking news story was to
- 23:07Speaker 5: maybe go with that game, because it has not been
- 23:10Speaker 5: picked yet.
- 23:10Speaker 2: I thought it had been picked twice. Are you sure
- 23:12Speaker 2: about that?
- 23:13Speaker 5: I don't think so. I see the under for the game,
- 23:16Speaker 5: but I don't see one side.
- 23:18Speaker 2: Oh, I do.
- 23:19Speaker 5: Softie picked it earlier.
- 23:20Speaker 2: Never mind. Yeah, that Husky game never gets past Softie
- 23:24Speaker 2: and Dick on Monday.
- 23:25Speaker 3: This is true.
- 23:25Speaker 2: On Monday, yeah. And usually it's Ian who picks it.
- 23:29Speaker 5: Yeah, I know. To hedge, as he always does. But
- 23:32Speaker 5: I'm going to go with the other hometown team, the
- 23:35Speaker 5: Seattle Seahawks.
- 23:36Speaker 6: Oh.
- 23:36Speaker 5: They're minus three in the game against the San Francisco
- 23:40Speaker 5: 49ers over the weekend. If you listened to the 12-man
- 23:43Speaker 5: roundtable yesterday, you heard my prediction that I think this
- 23:45Speaker 5: could be a semi-blowout for the Seattle Seahawks. I want
- 23:50Speaker 5: to believe you. They get their most complete game of
- 23:53Speaker 5: the season. Greg just a little bit ago talked about
- 23:55Speaker 5: how Basically, their entire defense is here. It's for the
- 23:59Speaker 5: first time. Ty Okada, Julian Love, Nicky Minwari, all healthy.
- 24:05Speaker 5: Looks like Leonard Williams is going to play as well.
- 24:07Speaker 5: Hopefully he does. If that's the case, I believe in
- 24:10Speaker 5: the track record of Mike McDonald with his full asset
- 24:15Speaker 5: of tools against any Kyle Shanahan-led offense.
- 24:19Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 24:20Speaker 5: Let alone one that's a little bit banged up, has
- 24:22Speaker 5: a Christian McCaffrey that's really looked like he lost a
- 24:25Speaker 5: half step, as you mentioned earlier this week as well.
- 24:28Speaker 5: And I just believe that Sam Donald, while yes, the
- 24:32Speaker 5: couple of turnovers that he has had have been frustrating,
- 24:35Speaker 5: I believe he's actually played really good football besides that.
- 24:38Speaker 5: And I think this offense can actually get some, at
- 24:42Speaker 5: least the pass game get going a little bit. I
- 24:44Speaker 5: think that with the Seahawks, win this game by at
- 24:47Speaker 5: least a touchdown, but they only need to win by four.
- 24:51Speaker 5: So Seahawks minus three versus the San Francisco 49ers at home.
- 24:55Speaker 5: The other aspect to this is the Seahawks are three
- 24:57Speaker 5: and one. The Niners are four and oh. The Seahawks
- 25:00Speaker 5: can't afford to go two games behind someone this early
- 25:03Speaker 5: in the season. So I think they are going to
- 25:05Speaker 5: be extra motivated, just as the Niners will be. Don't
- 25:07Speaker 5: get me wrong, but the Seahawks need to win this game.
- 25:11Speaker 5: I believe they will kind of even things up, at
- 25:13Speaker 5: least on the record side of things, against the Niners
- 25:16Speaker 5: this weekend.
- 25:17Speaker 2: All right, if you agree with the pick, you're going
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- 26:12Speaker 4: We have a blast with it. So, Anders is saying,
- 26:14Speaker 4: go ahead and have faith in your favorite National Football
- 26:18Speaker 4: League team. The Seahawks not only will win against the 49ers,
- 26:21Speaker 4: they are going to cover the three. That means the
- 26:24Speaker 4: Hawks have to win by four points or more against
- 26:27Speaker 4: San Francisco on Sunday. If you agree, text FACT to 49451.
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- 26:40Speaker 4: and the wonderful Jessamyn McIntyre. Coming up next on our show,
- 26:44Speaker 4: ABC's at the M, Sports.
- 26:45Speaker 2: Radio 93.3 KJRFM. Kind of contracted by God.
- 26:49Speaker 6: Yeah, it is.
- 26:50Speaker 2: To make sure that every day we slip in a
- 26:52Speaker 2: little bit of it.
- 26:53Speaker 5: Just a little bit. I mean, it is October 9th,
- 26:56Speaker 5: so there is some pretty important baseball games going on
- 26:59Speaker 5: right now.
- 27:00Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some important games.
- 27:01Speaker 4: And there's actually a really interesting baseball story that will
- 27:05Speaker 4: fit perfectly in our ABCs and DMs. Because this story
- 27:10Speaker 4: will certainly impact every team in Major League Baseball, including us.
- 27:14Speaker 2: The local baseball squad.
- 27:15Speaker 4: And so let's get to the ABCs of the M's.
- 27:18Speaker 2: We left off with a letter U. U is for unconventional.
- 27:21Speaker 4: Major League Baseball has introduced some unconventional schedule changes for
- 27:27Speaker 4: the upcoming season as part of their push to try
- 27:31Speaker 4: to get a salary cap for the collective bargaining agreement.
- 27:34Speaker 4: These are things that they're dangling in front of the players.
- 27:38Speaker 4: These are three of many things they're going to dangle
- 27:40Speaker 4: to try to get a salary cap.
- 27:42Speaker 2: They're going to try to.
- 27:44Speaker 4: Present a package of all sorts of changes that they
- 27:47Speaker 4: think will benefit the game and will benefit the Players
- 27:50Speaker 4: Association as well in exchange for that big monster of
- 27:55Speaker 4: a change that they're wanting to get. One of them,
- 27:58Speaker 4: one of the changes that they introduced yesterday is a
- 28:02Speaker 4: 154-game schedule, so lopping off eight games of the regular season,
- 28:06Speaker 4: assuring that every team will get at least one day
- 28:10Speaker 4: off per week It might limit the number of Monday
- 28:13Speaker 4: night games the teams play and could pave the way
- 28:16Speaker 4: toward a Monday night showcase game for them a la
- 28:20Speaker 4: Monday night football. Major League Baseball used to do the
- 28:23Speaker 4: same thing, so they might go back to that. But
- 28:26Speaker 4: the idea is to... We're going to shave eight games
- 28:30Speaker 4: off of the regular season, and that should guarantee that
- 28:34Speaker 4: a team... Every team gets a day off during the
- 28:38Speaker 4: course of the season every week. So this is one
- 28:41Speaker 4: of the things they want to dangle in front of
- 28:42Speaker 4: the players. And once upon a time, Anders, honestly, if
- 28:46Speaker 4: you would have messed with the 162-game schedule, I'd have
- 28:49Speaker 4: probably fought you. But since the steroid era... ruined all
- 28:54Speaker 4: of our record books, and Bud Selig didn't do anything
- 28:57Speaker 4: about it and should be in prison, rotting like the
- 29:00Speaker 4: criminal he is right now as we speak, since he
- 29:03Speaker 4: didn't do anything to protect our glorious, as baseball fans,
- 29:06Speaker 4: record book that meant so much to us as baseball fans.
- 29:10Speaker 4: Now the records really don't mean that much anymore to anyone,
- 29:13Speaker 4: and so... I'm actually for this. I'm actually for a
- 29:17Speaker 4: reduction in games. 162 is a lot of games to play.
- 29:20Speaker 4: 154 is a lot of games to play. I don't
- 29:23Speaker 4: think we're going to miss eight games.
- 29:24Speaker 5: No, and for a lot of people, I think they
- 29:27Speaker 5: would want it to go further than that. Now, I'm
- 29:30Speaker 5: with you. I think there definitely is something to be
- 29:33Speaker 5: said about the grind of a long baseball season, and
- 29:38Speaker 5: we've all talked about it, like, kind of the regression
- 29:41Speaker 5: to the mean, both positively and negatively. That can only
- 29:44Speaker 5: happen when you have a long season. So doing it
- 29:47Speaker 5: consistently throughout the entirety of a season is what makes,
- 29:49Speaker 5: you know, really good seasons like what Cal had last
- 29:52Speaker 5: year so special. And I think kind of both giving
- 29:57Speaker 5: a little bit so that you have a couple more
- 29:59Speaker 5: off days here and there and at least one scheduled
- 30:01Speaker 5: every week, as you said. And I think that showcase
- 30:05Speaker 5: idea on Monday would be a great idea so that
- 30:07Speaker 5: everyone could kind of get a little bit more of,
- 30:11Speaker 5: besides their own team, to follow a little bit. So, yeah,
- 30:15Speaker 5: I think the only downside of it would be the
- 30:17Speaker 5: kind of records side of things. But it doesn't matter anymore. Yeah,
- 30:22Speaker 5: it's just.
- 30:22Speaker 4: I mean, they're just not that important anymore. Like, we
- 30:25Speaker 4: don't even showcase them anymore. We don't even, like, look
- 30:28Speaker 4: at people who are on pace. And when somebody does
- 30:30Speaker 4: break a record, it's a footnote during SportsCenter.
- 30:32Speaker 2: It's really... Nothing that... I mean, you used to hang
- 30:36Speaker 2: on it. Trust me. You're not old enough to understand this.
- 30:38Speaker 2: You used to hang on it.
- 30:39Speaker 4: Like George Foster, I remember as a kid in 1979,
- 30:42Speaker 4: I'm eight years old, and he was on pace to
- 30:46Speaker 4: hit 50 home runs, and you hung on the box
- 30:48Speaker 4: score to see if he was going to get close
- 30:49Speaker 4: to 50 home runs.
- 30:50Speaker 2: We don't do that anymore. We don't care about that anymore.
- 30:53Speaker 4: I mean, Shohei had a season we've never seen before,
- 30:56Speaker 4: but it was going to be impressive whether he played
- 30:58Speaker 4: in 154 games or 162 games.
- 30:59Speaker 1: So.
- 31:02Speaker 4: I don't have a problem with it. As a matter
- 31:05Speaker 4: of fact, I think you should introduce it. And it's
- 31:07Speaker 4: still going to be a grind. It's still going to
- 31:08Speaker 4: be the long testing period.
- 31:10Speaker 5: I think it's good balance.
- 31:11Speaker 3: Yes.
- 31:11Speaker 2: You know, if it reduced to 120, yeah, maybe I'm
- 31:14Speaker 2: going to say something about that.
- 31:16Speaker 4: But 154, I think, is a good idea. Another thing
- 31:19Speaker 4: it will do is it will extend the playoffs a
- 31:22Speaker 4: little bit. You will have a seven-game divisional round instead
- 31:25Speaker 4: of the five-game divisional round that we just experienced. So
- 31:28Speaker 4: if you reduce a few regular season games, you get
- 31:30Speaker 4: a couple extra postseason games, which, of course, Major League
- 31:33Speaker 4: Baseball will be all about. A couple of other things
- 31:36Speaker 4: that we do need to mention quickly, and I am
- 31:38Speaker 4: going to have to do it quickly.
- 31:41Speaker 2: There was also– oh, gosh, where is it now?
- 31:47Speaker 5: Really quick on the division series. I like that idea.
- 31:49Speaker 5: I think sacrificing a few games into the regular season
- 31:53Speaker 5: to get a couple extra postseason games will do a
- 31:55Speaker 5: lot of good. And, you know, it's just more important
- 31:58Speaker 5: games later in the year. I'd rather have it there.
- 32:00Speaker 6: All right.
- 32:01Speaker 2: I can't even– now I can't find it. I thought
- 32:03Speaker 2: it was right here in the story.
- 32:04Speaker 4: I have the damn story pulled up, and it only
- 32:07Speaker 4: mentions the actual shortening of the season.
- 32:10Speaker 2: So that's all right.
- 32:11Speaker 4: We can go to our other letter because I don't
- 32:13Speaker 4: have much time to talk about this anyway.
- 32:15Speaker 2: V is for vote.
- 32:16Speaker 4: Steven Vogt kept his season alive last night as manager
- 32:20Speaker 4: of the Guardians. So if he is potentially on the Mariners'
- 32:24Speaker 4: managerial radar, they're going to have to wait a little
- 32:27Speaker 4: while longer. And now with all the momentum in the
- 32:30Speaker 4: world heading back home, Kind of feels like the Guardians
- 32:33Speaker 4: are going to win this series now. So you're going
- 32:36Speaker 4: to have to wait even longer, potentially, to see if
- 32:39Speaker 4: Steven Vogt is even a possibility. He is under contract
- 32:42Speaker 4: with the Guardians, after all. But a link to not
- 32:45Speaker 4: only the Mariners, but to Seattle. He loves this region.
- 32:48Speaker 4: And I got to think they would at least inquire
- 32:51Speaker 4: about him and his availability.
- 32:52Speaker 5: Yeah, it sounds like, from the links that we've seen,
- 32:56Speaker 5: that that might be their first choice. If they were
- 32:59Speaker 5: to pick anyone that... might have some sort of.
- 33:02Speaker 4: Well, they've got to get credit for it. They identified him.
- 33:06Speaker 4: He just had retired from playing, and they're like, you're
- 33:09Speaker 4: going to be a great coach. Will you join our staff?
- 33:11Speaker 5: And he was going to be their bench coach, if
- 33:13Speaker 5: you remember, but he had already taken the Guardians job.
- 33:16Speaker 5: They had offered it to him. So, yeah, I mean,
- 33:19Speaker 5: I think it would be a great hire for the Mariners,
- 33:21Speaker 5: but we have to wait a little bit longer because
- 33:23Speaker 5: this season is still going.
- 33:24Speaker 2: Yeah. All right. I apologize.
- 33:26Speaker 4: There were a couple of other things I was going
- 33:27Speaker 4: to get to, but we have flat run out of time. So,
- 33:31Speaker 4: Coming up next, we've got your eight top stories of
- 33:33Speaker 4: the day. It is the Ocho on Sports Radio 93.3 KJRFM.