Latest / Privycast / Ep. 197 Mist Madness 3: Candles and Poopourri
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- 0:00Hey, what are them boys doing down there?
- 0:02Oh, they're plucking their donkeys.
- 0:05Man, he has been in the bathroom for a minute.
- 0:08Yeah?
- 0:08He's plucking his donkey again.
- 0:11You know what saying?
- 0:17Welcome back to Privy.
- 0:19Privy is a podcast about bathrooms recorded from my home bathroom.
- 0:25I'm your host, Hunter Hoover, and I love bathrooms.
- 0:29Welcome back everyone.
- 0:30Thank you for being here and thank you for joining us for this season of Mist Madness.
- 0:38Many of you are at the point of this episode's release, either just building or
- 0:45Maybe have finished building and have entered some of the earlier rounds of your various brackets that you build this time of year.
- 0:54We've discussed that it's bracket season.
- 0:56March has magically become bracket season, which is a fake and made up thing really.
- 1:03But people like to make brackets, it turns out.
- 1:07We're making brackets for all sorts of stuff.
- 1:09Best ice cream, best friend.
- 1:13best TV show and or book.
- 1:17And so, as was noted, on Privy here, we wanted to do a bracket competition of bathroom air fresheners to determine what is the best via use and trial and error and most popular via
- 1:35your engagement with this tournament of bathroom air fresheners.
- 1:40online.
- 1:41So if you have not had a chance as you listen to this episode and hopefully my thoughts and the history that we're going to jump into here in a moment don't sway you too much.
- 1:52But if you have not yet go rank your favorite bathroom air fresheners at the link in the description.
- 1:58And you can also check that out on our website privy-cast.com.
- 2:03We'd love for you to go there and fill out your ranking of bathroom air fresheners.
- 2:08And if you're really brave,
- 2:10Take a screenshot of the bracket, fill it in, maybe use the little notes thingy and write in there, and then email it to us, privycast at gmail.com.
- 2:19We would love to receive those and see what you think the bracket's gonna turn out to be.
- 2:25We've been in Mist Madness all so far this month of March, and at the point of this episode's release, we're half over.
- 2:34And so, as we have...
- 2:36The last half of the month for voting and ranking, we want to inform you of our number one and number two seeds for best air freshener.
- 2:49One of these air fresheners has been ubiquitous with the process of pooping and what you do as a result of what you leave there.
- 2:59And the other is honestly probably our newest and most recent contender entering the competition.
- 3:07While it does not look at the contenders in the order in which they are seated, we are going to observe them in this way as it will lay the groundwork
- 3:17for what is in many ways the oldest of our deodorizer technologies as it leads up to the newest of our deodorizing technologies.
- 3:34And so to begin, we are going to dive in to the history of the scented candle.
- 3:40Candles have been around a long time.
- 3:45In fact, in my opinion, it's one of those things that seems like it would have been more intuitive than it really was.
- 3:55Because people have been making and as a result, burning candles for a long time.
- 4:02The earliest candles that we have consistent record of are made out of animal fat or tallow.
- 4:11The people shouting about their fried food is better.
- 4:15for you because it's made with tallow or beef fat.
- 4:19That tallow or beef fat used to be used to make a variety of candles.
- 4:27And if it's anywhere in the ballpark of these things, you should know.
- 4:32Once upon a time in a land far, far away called Montana, I worked at a McDonald's.
- 4:39And it's one of those things you always hear people say, it's like, I used to work at so-and-so and now I can't stand the food.
- 4:45McDonald's had the opposite effect on me.
- 4:47I used to work at McDonald's and now I still love to eat it.
- 4:51At the point of this episode's record, it's Friday night, which means Friday night, McDonald's night.
- 4:56But there are smells which are often associated with McDonald's and that are coming from the fryers and more importantly from behind the fryers at fast food places that are truly
- 5:09heinous.
- 5:11They don't have to clean behind the fryers as frequently as you might hope.
- 5:19And all I'm going to say is one time we moved the fryer and well, the
- 5:28material that came off the fryer actually stretched like a piece of gack from between the back of the fryer and the wall on the other side.
- 5:40was truly a baffling sight.
- 5:41It's not something that I necessarily think of as a good smell.
- 5:46The smell of like burning oil or fried grease.
- 5:51It's different than barbecue.
- 5:53Barbecue, like the fat smells different when it's burned over
- 5:58just being heated.
- 6:01while at this point in history, candles are primarily used for lighting various spaces, they had to make those candles out of something.
- 6:11And so like they were not as concerned with the smell of like the burning animal fat.
- 6:16They just needed something to like keep their flame lit.
- 6:19They scrape up some old animal fat, mix it together in like a real pottery wax conglomerate.
- 6:26and call it an afternoon in the home fragrance aisle at Hobby Lobby.
- 6:30It's time to start burning.
- 6:33And it's weird because as we discussed in our essential oils episode just a couple episodes back, people have been burning oils for the smells that those oils produce for
- 6:46centuries, if not millennia at this point.
- 6:50And if they knew those oils smelled so good, it seems like they would have added the oils to the stanky fat a lot sooner.
- 6:59Stanky fat is a good code nickname for like a lot of what I got going on.
- 7:08You know what I'm saying.
- 7:10There's old stanky fat again.
- 7:12It should be noted that these candles were not candles, but they were more like wax torches.
- 7:20They would have a rag or some other sort of wood sticking out of the animal fat, much like we would see that wick coming out.
- 7:29We got to get him up here.
- 7:32There he is.
- 7:33There's my, there's the candle that I've been burning for our tests.
- 7:37It does smell good.
- 7:38I'm going to leave that open just for ambiance.
- 7:40uh
- 7:44But the oil acts as fuel to keep the candle lit while it burns the source of the wick of the candle.
- 7:51Like that's what it's got going on.
- 7:54But again, these were not traditional candles in the sense that we're thinking.
- 7:59While the ancient Egyptians and other ancient cultures did eventually begin adding smells to the candles and torches they made, they weren't candles.
- 8:11Could you imagine like Indiana Jones or like National Treasures, they're like walking around in the dark with a torch lit and they've got like their little torch and they're
- 8:22walking around and as a result, like the crypt that they're creeping around in just smells like baked apple pie or like sea breeze or like fresh laundry or some silliness like that.
- 8:34It's like, you know, the vibe down in this dank cave is something.
- 8:39but at least it smells like strawberry crumb cake.
- 8:43Really changes the vibe on a lot of those scenes.
- 8:45And it could be a great opportunity for some of these movie companies to introduce smell-o-vision.
- 8:50The Disney parks and the Universal Studios and the such have smell-o-vision in some of their like 4D rides.
- 8:57And maybe it's time for like the IMAX 4D whatever to start adding smell-o-vision to things.
- 9:04It could be the market.
- 9:06The Wicked candles origin though.
- 9:09Cause that's really the jump that we're talking about.
- 9:11We're talking about jumping from something that is essentially a torch with a stick sticking out of it to a wicked candle.
- 9:19But the candles origin is really an around the world grab bag of who made it here first.
- 9:26It's kind of like when you walk into a group of like any kids under the grade, like four or five, and you, and you say, I lost.
- 9:37somebody dropped this piece of candy.
- 9:39Whose is it?
- 9:41It's truly everybody's candy.
- 9:43It's the socialist little mini candy.
- 9:45Somehow all kids own that piece of candy.
- 9:50That's like what it is trying to track down where the wicked candle originally came from.
- 9:57Some records say the Egyptians had wicked candles.
- 10:00Some say that it was a Babylonian technology.
- 10:04Others say it was late Greek or early Roman advancements in the medium.
- 10:10Other accounts tie the wicked candle to China.
- 10:15China.
- 10:17Some of these reports state that the candles were made out of whale fat in China and may have even been using beeswax.
- 10:26I had a kid at the high school today, I work at the high school in special education.
- 10:30And I had a kid today tell me that they originally made candles out of earwax.
- 10:36Let's get it going, let's get it going.
- 10:40We're returning to the polar seltzer here.
- 10:43And first of all, I don't think so.
- 10:46I don't think they made candles out of earwax.
- 10:49Second of all, that's incredibly gross.
- 10:52Makes you wonder.
- 10:52I wonder if you could make a candle out of used gum.
- 10:55Makes a guy wonder, you know what saying?
- 10:56Other people made candles from the Stalingia tallow, which comes from what is called the tallow tree or is sometimes known as the Florida Aspen or the popcorn tree.
- 11:10And what had really undergone much development is the candle wick.
- 11:15Like a lot of the oil and like fat burning technologies remain similar.
- 11:19It's really like, how do we wick this G?
- 11:22You know what I'm saying?
- 11:23And while there were early plants and pieces of organic material used, the organic material, it should be noted, in some cases refers to bugs and other animal parts.
- 11:37And they would, in the early days of wicked candles, braid animal hair.
- 11:43Which, if you've never burned hair, or burned your hair, the short version is, it smells really bad.
- 11:53Like, really bad.
- 11:55And so,
- 11:58And bugs don't smell good either.
- 12:01Burning bugs doesn't smell good either.
- 12:03And so you have these two options, like little bug parts sticking up out of the candle as the wick, or like braided donkey hair or whatever the heck they were plucking.
- 12:14You can go pluck your donkey.
- 12:17That's what they're calling it.
- 12:18They're plucking their donkeys.
- 12:19You know what saying?
- 12:20Hey, what are them boys doing down there?
- 12:21Oh, they're plucking their donkeys.
- 12:25Man, he has been in the bathroom for a minute, yeah?
- 12:28He's plucking his donkey again.
- 12:30You know what saying?
- 12:34If you pluck your donkey too often or for too long, it actually can do damage.
- 12:38That's what I'll tell you about that.
- 12:39You do not want to pluck your donkey as often as you might think or want.
- 12:46But if you've ever smelled like burning hair or burning bugs, it does very little to accomplish an increase in desirous smells coming off of the candle.
- 12:58Like, I guess when I was growing up, the way that I like would smell this was like I would sit there and like fry ants or box elder bugs and people are like, that's what sociopaths
- 13:09do.
- 13:10Boys get into some nonsense.
- 13:14But it makes you wonder, you know, it's not the best smelling things.
- 13:18It's, man, I have got charcoal on my fingies.
- 13:21I play them with the wick.
- 13:22It's not the best smelling stuff, burning hair and burning insect parts.
- 13:28In fact, the idea of putting candles on birthday cake might even come to us before there were even wicks.
- 13:37It's stated that ancient Greeks offered moon shaped honey cakes.
- 13:43lit with small torches or small pieces of candles.
- 13:47These moved out of the space of worship into the realm of day-to-day life.
- 13:54This putting the candle on my cake may be where birthday candles derive from.
- 14:01Putting the wick, as best I can tell, likely developed out of Italy in the Etruscan period in the seventh century BC.
- 14:10Candles at the time were essentially these long, thin candles called tapers with wicks that ran down the center.
- 14:20made of plant fibers that would be soaked in fat or pitch and allowed to cool in long sticks.
- 14:27I mean, these candles would be like multiple feet long at times.
- 14:31But it should also be noted that these candles, primarily used for lighting again, were second to the use of oil lamps.
- 14:40Like burning an oil lamp was actually preferred.
- 14:45And
- 14:46the burning oil lamps was preferred and was the primary source of lighting until that source was greatly diminished.
- 14:56When the Roman Empire collapsed, disruptions in trade interrupted the access to olive oil from the region.
- 15:04This made the use of fuel lamps more costly and more difficult to get the needed oil to supply those lamps.
- 15:13They, in turn,
- 15:15moved to another source of lighting.
- 15:18They turned back to the good old fashioned candle.
- 15:25in the absence of readily available oil.
- 15:29And it kind of, you know, it kind of makes sense.
- 15:33what was once what we, like this is what we do.
- 15:36We're going to go back to just the old way of doing things.
- 15:39Let's get them candles in here.
- 15:40This use of candles really took off in the middle ages where they were even more in need.
- 15:48And whenever you have a high need on an item,
- 15:52supply generally rises to meet the demand.
- 15:56Candlemakers known as chandlers or in other places smirmandry.
- 16:03That can't be right.
- 16:04Smiramonger.
- 16:06Smirmonger?
- 16:07I'm gonna go with smirmonger.
- 16:09Smirle smirmonger.
- 16:11Next time somebody really chaps your donkey, call him a smirmonger.
- 16:17Like you son of a smirmonger.
- 16:21These Chandlers or Schmiermongers or candle makers, the baker, the taker and the candlestick maker originally made candles much like the ancients before them from leftover
- 16:32fats saved from their kitchen.
- 16:35I think a new line of candles that smells like breakfast food that are made out of leftover bacon grease is in order.
- 16:43Like I think that would be well received.
- 16:45It's like fat candles.
- 16:48TM, TM, TM, TM, TM, TM, TM.
- 16:51Fat candles actually could be pretty dope.
- 16:53Like, you get like smells that typically fat people like.
- 16:57Like, I like the smell of bacon.
- 16:59I like the smell of Pam cakes.
- 17:01I like the smell of McDonald's.
- 17:04And you just make candles smell like stuff that is like that.
- 17:08Like, they already do it for like ice cream treats and little Debbie snacks and the cereal.
- 17:14I know there's a Lucky Charms or some sort of a Trix or something.
- 17:20And so you just take that like food idea and you pour it into the candle world.
- 17:25That makes me want to eat the candle.
- 17:27Looking at you, Native deodorant with all of your food smelling, food related names.
- 17:35But in the cases where these are coming from the kitchen, the Schmirmonger actually oversaw the sauces, the making of vinegar, soaps, and cheese.
- 17:45All of these things were connected via the animal fats and byproducts of cooking.
- 17:54for some time, sheep's fat was actually the preferred.
- 17:58How many times do you think people have to run at the process of like making a candle before it's like, yeah, the sheep, the sheep fat is the best fat.
- 18:12They preferred sheep fat, but manufacturing these sheep fat candles smelled so bad that
- 18:21There was actually multiple ordinances throughout various cities in Europe at the time that actually took sanctions against it.
- 18:31Like your stinky sheep candles are so stinky and very sheepish that you've got to go somewhere else to make these things.
- 18:41They actually made sanctions against it.
- 18:43They began turning to a different substance and landed on beeswax as a good alternative.
- 18:50But the material
- 18:51was much more costly.
- 18:53Beeswax costs more money than sheep's fat.
- 18:57And as such, these beeswax candles were reserved for the rich and royal of society.
- 19:05In time, Schmirmongers began to make candle molds where the wax, tallow, or other melted fats would be poured to shape the candle accordingly.
- 19:17The wick, which at the time was made from various materials,
- 19:21but the favorite being a piece of fabric was placed at the center and the mold was allowed to harden around it.
- 19:32They began to make candle molds where the wax was like, they would pour it in the thing and then you would like suspend a deal that like held the wick.
- 19:45So the wick actually came up past the candle, much like our candle wicks do, they stick out.
- 19:51Yeah.
- 19:51And then the, the, the fats and the oils were allowed to harden around the wick.
- 19:59Coming out of the 1700s, whaling industry, that is where you go hunt for whales, not like whaling like whale.
- 20:10It was on the rise.
- 20:12As such, whale's fat or whale oil grew as a viable option for candle making.
- 20:20This was the first candle made in mass quantities.
- 20:26This oil from the whale was known as spermaceti.
- 20:34That's like Italian, anyway.
- 20:36But this spermaceti didn't stink when it was burned.
- 20:42It made brighter lights and hardened to be firmer and more sturdy than tallow or beeswax.
- 20:51The technology for candles shifted again in the 1800s when Colza oil and the oils from various plants that were similar to canola were discovered.
- 21:02Canola oil.
- 21:03And that's what we're cooking in.
- 21:05This canola oil had similar properties to tallow, but produced a clear and smokeless flame.
- 21:13In the 1830s, candles began to be industrialized and produced.
- 21:20Joseph Morga.
- 21:21A pewterer from North Manchester patented a machine that allowed for the continuous production of molded candles.
- 21:32Machine, Morga's Candlemaker, is what I call the machine, could produce about 1500 candles an
- 21:43It's a lot of candles.
- 21:46I do wonder how many candles I've burned over the course of my life.
- 21:49It does make me wonder.
- 21:50In the industrial age, the wick developed to be braided rather than just single strands of cotton.
- 21:57These braided wicks burn up and bend the wick as it burns and it comes to be called self-trimming or self-consuming wicks.
- 22:08In 1848, James Young made the world's first oil refinery.
- 22:13One of the by-products, a thing called paraffin wax, was a naturally occurring presence in the oils.
- 22:21He took this wax, distilled it, and proved that it was actually pretty useful in making what is an inexpensive candle.
- 22:29Instead of tossing the paraffin wax out, let's make candles out of it.
- 22:33However, there was a new invention, a new discovery on the horizon, which would decrease
- 22:43the need for candles once more.
- 22:45Candles were no longer needed for lighting because electricity had arrived.
- 22:54And so candle production shrunk drastically.
- 22:58But as time went on and moving into the 20th, a new resurgence began within the candle world.
- 23:07No longer were they turning to candles for light, but now for decoration and
- 23:13As we well know, and as we are primarily concerned with for odor control.
- 23:20While many ancient oils were scented in the beeswax of the medieval period was noted for its sweet smell.
- 23:27It was actually the 16 that first put smell into candles.
- 23:32They would essence the animal fats to create quote perfumed lights.
- 23:40When the production of candles increased with paraffin wax.
- 23:43They also began to add scents to this new industrialized candle process.
- 23:49When candles were no longer necessary for light, they began to be used primarily for smell and mood.
- 23:58Vibe, if you will.
- 24:00Nothing is a vibe check like a candle.
- 24:04You get a good huff.
- 24:05Clementine mango, I might add.
- 24:08Not a bad poll.
- 24:09Not a bad poll.
- 24:11We've come a long way with candles to making my room smell like a big jug of fruit punch, which is consequently what this candle smells like.
- 24:22And so as we move from what is probably one of our oldest contenders, we need to turn briefly at the, as we round off the second half of this episode to discuss, Poopery.
- 24:40For those of you that do not know what Poo-Pourri is, it looks like this.
- 24:44It comes in a little thing, and you do the thing.
- 24:46I'll explain it in just a moment.
- 24:50And it should be noted, all the contenders in Mist Madness, Privy Casts, March Madness, Bracket Competition of Bathroom Air Fresheners, TMTM, seek to deal with the smell once the
- 25:04crap smell that you produced is in the air.
- 25:07They don't do much to like keep that bad reeking butt stank from getting in the air in the first place.
- 25:14As the story goes, that's like actually exactly what happened.
- 25:19Entrepreneur
- 25:20Susie Batees after two failed businesses, both of which were, well, you can go look her up and her failed businesses on your own time, but we'll just say they were interesting in
- 25:32nature.
- 25:34Susie Batees was inspired at a dinner party.
- 25:38As the story goes, one of the other guests had to use the restroom and they left to do so and they hit it hard.
- 25:46They blew that stank up.
- 25:48They blew it up.
- 25:50And the stink that they produced from their foul butthole actually disrupted everybody.
- 25:56Like that's how bad their terrible butt odor and stinky turd smell was.
- 26:02It like disrupted everybody that's trying to eat dinner and sniffing fart smell.
- 26:06Well, because Tony Bologna, who only eats bologna, like went and did a big Tony in the toilet and made everything smell really bad.
- 26:17Like really bad.
- 26:21Stink, quote, disrupted everyone.
- 26:25In Suzy Batiste came up with the idea.
- 26:31The essential oils that she is a white mom often turned to as, yeah, comfort, could maybe help neutralize the stink that was being made in the bowl.
- 26:44What followed was a system of trial and error, mixing concoctions of oils and passing them to her husband to go and drop a big stack.
- 26:53It's like, wait, wait, wait, babe.
- 26:55Are you on your way to the bathroom?
- 26:56Yeah?
- 26:57well, wait, wait.
- 26:58Take my strange witch's brew of essential oils with you and see if it helps things smell not bad.
- 27:05Some of these oils were helpful.
- 27:08Some of them were not.
- 27:10And the record goes one day, Susie passed her husband a potion of oils and he came out proclaiming that they were gonna be millionaires.
- 27:23How these oils allegedly work are when they are sprayed into the bowl, they create a layer of oils on the top of the water.
- 27:33Then when you poop, the poop goes through that layer of oils and the stink odors are trapped.
- 27:43They can't penetrate the oil barrier you have created.
- 27:48It's science.
- 27:49Think of the Poo-Pourri oil spray as like a liquid wall, keeping intruders and other stank aliens out.
- 27:56I'm sure there's someone who's going to be pissed about that analogy.
- 27:59Batees.
- 28:00Suzy Batees started to distribute these bottles to friends for testing and word spread where she was living in Dallas of a miracle spray, which actually somehow keeps your foul
- 28:16butt stink from stinking.
- 28:20Because it turns out it's rarely your butt stink that is stinking.
- 28:24It's actually the presence of that poop in the bowl.
- 28:28The rest of the story is really just marketing.
- 28:33Cause while things were like good, they didn't like pop off for some time.
- 28:39But business boomed for Poo-Pourri in 2013 when she, Susie Bautiz,
- 28:47filmed her Girls Don't Poop advertisement.
- 28:53And as frustrating as it is that an essential oil mom who conceived of this because she smelled someone's bad stink to hide that women make foul, I have to admit.
- 29:09These things work, dude.
- 29:10They're so cool.
- 29:11It actually does what it says it's gonna do.
- 29:17I've also found this, if you're going to spend a long time on your job, that oil really loses its effectiveness at some point.
- 29:26it's not a forever oil.
- 29:28If you spray it into the toilet bowl thinking I'm going to be good for an extended period of time, that's not technically true.
- 29:36Like you are going to want to do your business and get on with your life because if you sit there, eventually the oil will rinse off and not
- 29:46be effective.
- 29:47It has a shelf life.
- 29:48I want them to make a coffee scent and essentially like Poo-Pourri.
- 29:53I think that would be good.
- 29:54Maybe Poo-Pourri could like do a robust blend for people that take like an extra long time taking a dump.
- 30:00It's like, this is Poo-Pourri XL or Poo-Pourri Deluxe.
- 30:05It's for like thick children and people that like to play on their phone.
- 30:09With that, we have covered all our contestants in the Mist Madness.
- 30:15bracket competition of bathroom air fresheners.
- 30:17I hope you go and rank your favorite air freshener as well as fill out the tournament bracket.
- 30:23We would love for you to join us for Miss Madness in that.
- 30:34This brings us to the end of another episode of Privy.
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- 32:15Thanks Kevin and Pottington and everybody else whose music contributed to this episode.
- 32:20Keep pooping in the free world, own your stank.
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