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  Speaker 1: The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast
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  Speaker 1: by night, all day.
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  Speaker 2: What's happening? What's happening?
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  Speaker 3: Good to see you.
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  Speaker 2: Same.
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  Speaker 3: We were just talking. Sorry, I had to pause Jamie
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  Speaker 3: before the podcast. So you were telling me that LeBron
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  Speaker 3: James is not going to go back to the Lakers.
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  Speaker 3: How old is he now?
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  Speaker 4: Forty-one.
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  Speaker 2: 41. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: What is the oldest that an elite athlete has been?
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  Speaker 4: Tom Brady's 44, I think, NFL QB. That'd be pretty
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  Speaker 4: high up there.
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  Speaker 2: How old was Kareem?
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  Speaker 3: That's a good question. How old was Kareem when he retired?
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  Speaker 4: Bernard Hopkins, I think, would be the next.
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  Speaker 3: Bernard Hopkins is number one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Bernard Hopkins.
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  Speaker 3: We were talking about how he beat Kelly Pavlich at 42.
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  Speaker 2: But Bernard had a couple of years to.
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  Speaker 2: Incubate a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah you know about that yeah not take damage
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  Speaker 3: and steal up the mind he uh he had the
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  Speaker 3: most intense discipline that guy never got out of shape
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  Speaker 3: which is also a giant contributor to longevity never never
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  Speaker 3: was building back you know he wasn't like a 42
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  Speaker 3: year old who was like You know, he took six
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  Speaker 3: months off. I haven't been in the gym.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no.
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  Speaker 3: Every day it was running, nutrition. Everything was always on point.
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  Speaker 3: Never buried.
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  Speaker 4: Kareem was like 42, I think.
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  Speaker 3: So he might be the oldest of the past guys.
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  Speaker 3: But this was before all the science, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the science changes things. The science.
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  Speaker 3: So we were just talking about the science. So, Jamie,
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  Speaker 3: what are they allowed to take and not allowed to take?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. It's like the NBA used to, like,
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  Speaker 4: I think. For weed stuff, they used to say that
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  Speaker 4: they'd get tested, I think, October 1st, which is right
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  Speaker 4: when preseason starts.
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  Speaker 3: For weed?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And so as long as you were clean on October 1st,
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  Speaker 4: then you're good because they wouldn't test.
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  Speaker 3: The rest of the year. That's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 4: But now, I know in the NFL, if you have
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  Speaker 4: a crazy game, you're going to get tested the next day.
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  Speaker 4: They're just going to check you for what was going
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  Speaker 4: on with you yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, why would you play good? Ridiculous.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think the NBA does that specifically, but I
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  Speaker 4: don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Honestly.
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  Speaker 3: So what are the rules in the NBA in terms
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  Speaker 3: of marijuana now? I thought that was part of the
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  Speaker 3: thing that they negotiated in the contract to make sure.
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  Speaker 3: Because a lot of players like to be high when
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  Speaker 3: they play.
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  Speaker 4: I think they might just have just stopped testing for
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  Speaker 4: it is all.
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  Speaker 3: I want to mention names. But I'm friends with some guys,
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  Speaker 3: and they tell me they can't play unless they're high.
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  Speaker 3: That's the same thing with pool players. I know a
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  Speaker 3: lot of pool players. They like to get lit. Before
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  Speaker 3: they get on the table.
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  Speaker 2: Pool, you should be lit playing pool.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you feel things better. Here we go. NBA can
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  Speaker 3: randomly drug test each player up to four times during
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  Speaker 3: the season and two times in the offseason with additional
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  Speaker 3: tests allowed any time there is reasonable cause. But marijuana
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  Speaker 3: is no longer part of the standard testing panel. Yes, sir. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so they can smoke weed, which makes sense.
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  Speaker 2: Let them.
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  Speaker 3: It's not. What are you doing? It's not hurting anybody,
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  Speaker 3: and they play better with it.
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  Speaker 2: I think.
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  Speaker 3: Leave them alone. That's what I think. Unless they're doing meth.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 4: They also had another big betting scandal that's kind of
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  Speaker 4: broken recently in the last 24 hours there.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, no.
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  Speaker 4: Where a player has been called out for throwing at
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  Speaker 4: least four games. And then where that's going to go
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  Speaker 4: from here is kind of being speculated online.
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  Speaker 3: I'll tell you where that goes. If people find out,
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  Speaker 3: it goes to Bullets. That's the problem. The problem with
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  Speaker 3: someone throwing a game is somebody bet on that fucking game.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of people bet on that game.
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  Speaker 4: The two cases I've seen, though, are the overs. They
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  Speaker 4: had player props, and he needed 4.5 rebounds, and he
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  Speaker 4: has four, and he's just trying extremely, extremely, extremely hard
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  Speaker 4: to get that extra rebound. Which is like, that's wrong.
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  Speaker 3: Wait a minute.
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  Speaker 2: That's not that bad.
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  Speaker 3: That means he's playing well.
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  Speaker 4: And the other one, which was he was fixing a
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  Speaker 4: spread in the last second. Like he sprinted down the
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  Speaker 4: court to get an extra basket with like three seconds
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  Speaker 4: on the clock when they were down by ten or
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  Speaker 4: seven technically to beat the eight and a half point spread.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but so what? He's just scoring.
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  Speaker 4: How can you ever– It's just– when you watch basketball enough,
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  Speaker 4: you go, like, that doesn't happen that often. Why would
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  Speaker 4: you do that?
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  Speaker 3: That's gross.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, especially– yeah, you're used to people throwing the ball
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  Speaker 2: in the air, just throwing it down there, not you
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  Speaker 2: running down.
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  Speaker 3: I know, but if you can do it and score,
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  Speaker 3: why wouldn't you do it? I don't even understand why
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  Speaker 3: anybody would question that.
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  Speaker 2: You're down by 10. It's five seconds to go. The
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  Speaker 2: game is over. Fuck you.
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  Speaker 3: I want that ball in the net.
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  Speaker 2: Fuck you. Man, no– Why? Because that's not going to change. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: we lost by eight.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it just means you're competitive to the end. You
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  Speaker 3: never give up, even though you know you're losing.
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  Speaker 2: And no starters on the floor at this time. You're
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  Speaker 2: down by 10. It's five seconds to go. No starters
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  Speaker 2: on the floor.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's not like he's missing on purpose. So
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  Speaker 3: it's one thing if the guy's like missing on purpose,
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  Speaker 3: but if he's scoring on purpose, leave him the fuck alone.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 4: So similar thing, World Cup just happened like two, three
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  Speaker 4: nights ago where they just got into the knockout round,
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  Speaker 4: you know, so the big tournament was every team plays
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  Speaker 4: three games to figure out where you figure, where you
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  Speaker 4: end up to play the next part of the tournament.
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  Speaker 4: 10 teams get eliminated.
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  Speaker 2: Uh-huh.
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  Speaker 4: Third place team for the first time ever can make
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  Speaker 4: it through. And so there was a, I think it
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  Speaker 4: was Algeria and I forget the other team.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry.
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  Speaker 4: But, If they both tied, they both move through. If
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  Speaker 4: one team wins and one team loses, one team goes through.
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  Speaker 4: And then with four minutes to go in the game,
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  Speaker 4: they're kind of just passing the ball around, the score
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  Speaker 4: is tied, and one team goes ahead and scores. And
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  Speaker 4: it kind of starts a fight on the field where
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  Speaker 4: you see the other team yelling at the other team, like,
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  Speaker 4: fuck you. I don't know exactly what they're saying, but what?
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  Speaker 4: And then with two minutes to go, The other team
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  Speaker 4: sort of just stops playing defense and kind of seems
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  Speaker 4: to let them score.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, God.
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  Speaker 4: Is that a big collusion or if they just sort
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  Speaker 4: of made an agreement?
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  Speaker 3: Don't they have mics on those guys? It's such a
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  Speaker 3: crazy— They have to have mics on somebody. They have
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  Speaker 3: strong mics now, and they have people that can lip read.
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  Speaker 3: They can pick up, hey, motherfucker, you're supposed to leave
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  Speaker 3: this a tie.
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  Speaker 5: If that happens, you can't play anymore, right?
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  Speaker 3: What happens to those guys? They have to get suspended.
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  Speaker 4: For— That'd be the entire— that' d be both teams.
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  Speaker 3: The coaches, it'd be everybody. Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 4: I don't really know how it's going to pan out,
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  Speaker 4: but it was very.
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  Speaker 3: What a conundrum.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: How could you do that? Like, I hate that. This
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  Speaker 3: is what I don't like about sports betting. Not that
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  Speaker 3: because that's about advancing. But about sports betting is even
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  Speaker 3: the consideration that a person is playing a certain way
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  Speaker 3: because they're worried about a spread or because they've been
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  Speaker 3: paid off to not score or they've been paid off
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  Speaker 3: to foul. The problem with these things is you can.
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  Speaker 2: Bet on anything. You can bet on anything.
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  Speaker 3: Anything.
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  Speaker 2: Anything.
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  Speaker 3: So if you're a crooked and– What has been, like,
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  Speaker 3: the most crooked aspect of the fucking human race over
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  Speaker 3: the past, like, 100 years, other than the legal system?
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  Speaker 3: The most crooked aspect has been sports betting. It's always crooked.
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  Speaker 2: Sports and politics. Politics. They damn near.
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  Speaker 3: They're all the same.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're the same.
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  Speaker 3: It's the same. It's money. Anytime there's money involved and
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  Speaker 3: decisions can be shifted, influence can be used to make
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  Speaker 3: something happen.
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  Speaker 2: But it seems like that with most things that people—
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  Speaker 2: you know, have some type of, you know, hierarchy desire for. They... 100%.
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  Speaker 2: They gonna put something in, you know, like, even with, like,
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  Speaker 2: awards and games, this is a... who can promote the
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  Speaker 2: best and who can... If you can take all the
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  Speaker 2: people that vote to dinner and, you know, smuse them
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  Speaker 2: at dinner, it's gonna be a... a thing where who's
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  Speaker 2: going to beat you when you have all the voters.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Or you have a situation where you have people that
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  Speaker 2: work for your company that can vote. How are you
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  Speaker 2: not going to vote for the project that the company
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  Speaker 2: put out? Right. Yeah. We got 60 voters. We at
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  Speaker 2: least got 60 votes.
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  Speaker 3: I think you said it best when you said the hierarchy.
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  Speaker 3: That's really what it is. It's in anything that has
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  Speaker 3: any kind of a hierarchy. Politics is the ultimate example.
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  Speaker 2: Politics is the ultimate example. Ultimate example.
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  Speaker 3: But there's that hierarchy shit in everything in the world. Everything.
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  Speaker 3: And it trips people up.
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  Speaker 2: But with politics, it is a little more detrimental than
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  Speaker 2: with sports. Sports is, you know, you're gambling, people trying
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  Speaker 2: to win things. But with politics, it's like, if you're not,
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  Speaker 2: somebody that's not qualified can be in a position where
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  Speaker 2: You know, they make decisions on the masses of people's lives.
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  Speaker 3: Not just that. They can appoint judges.
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  Speaker 2: Which is?
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  Speaker 3: They can appoint crazy judges. Like, there's obviously judges, like,
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  Speaker 3: they have disputes. Well, why do they have disputes? Because
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  Speaker 3: they're ideologically captured on both sides. There's people that are like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, like, certain right-wing judges. You throw some case
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  Speaker 3: out there that's a right-wing case, abortion rights, whatever it is, immigration,
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  Speaker 3: you know how they're going to vote. Same thing with
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  Speaker 3: left-wing people. Like, hardcore left-wing people, you guarantee. Trans women
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  Speaker 3: in sports? Trans women are women. Let them play in sports.
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  Speaker 3: That was a recent Supreme Court order. Three judges said
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  Speaker 3: that trans women should be able to play in women's sports.
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  Speaker 3: The rest of them said, fuck no. The other six
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  Speaker 3: canceled it out, luckily.
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  Speaker 2: And, you know, those people are not— taking into account
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  Speaker 2: the sport. Like, it's a difference if you was originally
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  Speaker 2: something and now you're playing as something else. Your strength
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  Speaker 2: is different. And, you know, you don't feel that until
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  Speaker 2: your daughter gets knocked out the ring where she's supposed
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  Speaker 2: to be boxing somebody that They're the same gender. Then
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  Speaker 2: now she's, her whole side of her face broke from,
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  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 3: It's insane. It's insane. And it's not cruel to not
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  Speaker 3: let that happen in sports. That's what Title IX is
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  Speaker 3: about in the first place. Give women the opportunity to
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  Speaker 3: play in an equal time as men. That's a good thing.
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  Speaker 3: Having men that think they're women play with women is
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  Speaker 3: fucking crazy. It doesn't mean, you know, you need to
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  Speaker 3: cast those people out of society. It doesn't mean anything.
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  Speaker 3: Live and let live. I agree. But get the fuck
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  Speaker 3: out of the women's room.
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  Speaker 2: You have a dick.
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  Speaker 3: Get the fuck off the team. You're running track at
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  Speaker 3: a literal women's Olympic level and you're 15. Why? Because
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  Speaker 3: you have a dick. This is crazy. You're not really
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  Speaker 3: a girl. This is nuts.
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  Speaker 2: That's the world we live in. I'm not even going
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  Speaker 2: to say that's the world we live in. That's the
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  Speaker 2: world that's being presented to us at this point.
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  Speaker 3: That's right.
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  Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot of things like this, man.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 2: This is why in comedy I choose not to go
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  Speaker 2: the current affair or the political route because I don't
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  Speaker 2: have time to separate the room. I'm too busy trying
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  Speaker 2: to do things to bring the room together, and that's
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  Speaker 2: more of a righteous aim for me.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you– I said this before, so I'll say it
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  Speaker 3: live publicly. What you've done is very extraordinary because you've
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  Speaker 3: made a giant following online completely organically. It's very inspiring
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  Speaker 3: because all you do is just do your thing the
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  Speaker 3: best that you can and put it out there and
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  Speaker 3: it just keeps growing. It's amazing. It's very cool. It's
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  Speaker 3: very inspirational. And you should be proud of it because
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  Speaker 3: what you've done, like I said, it's totally organic. Like
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  Speaker 3: you don't have a bunch of production companies pushing you
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  Speaker 3: and trying to make you more popular than you are. No,
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  Speaker 3: it's all just putting it out there and getting this
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  Speaker 3: gigantic following just from your work. Just the work.
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  Speaker 2: Appreciate it. And then, you know, even with that, you
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  Speaker 2: still have some type of responsibility to not see things
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  Speaker 2: the same as other people. Like, I just got all
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  Speaker 2: this flack about me talking about how this business of
• 12:37
  Speaker 2: people inflating things has caused depression in comics. You know,
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  Speaker 2: that we're supposed to be a happy craft. But now
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  Speaker 2: it's this big push about if you're not on social
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  Speaker 2: media you're not on this you're not on it a
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  Speaker 2: lot of these comics are you know going through this
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  Speaker 2: mental health thing where they always sad about their numbers
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  Speaker 2: uh you know or this and the third like yo
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  Speaker 2: man it it is a it's a thing and some
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  Speaker 2: people inflate things and everybody wants to be on the
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  Speaker 2: same level so sometimes you you can't be oh you
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  Speaker 2: can't But people look at it as a certain way
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  Speaker 2: where when you're proud of the steps that you've taken.
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  Speaker 2: And if I played in the G League, that's not
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  Speaker 2: the NBA. So I wouldn't say that I played in
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: the league because I know what the league means. I
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  Speaker 2: know this says this is the G League. But when
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  Speaker 2: I present myself, yo, you know I play in the league.
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  Speaker 2: People automatically think the NBA. The G League is not
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: knocking the G League, but that's not the first thing
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  Speaker 2: that comes to my mind. Playing for the Washington Generals
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  Speaker 2: is not the NBA. Even though you played against the Globetrotters,
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  Speaker 2: they were great players. But we know how this game goes.
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  Speaker 2: But that's how people see things now.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the numbers thing is real. The numbers thing is
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  Speaker 3: a real problem with people because it gives you a
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  Speaker 3: quantifiable measure of whether or not you're doing well. And
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  Speaker 3: if you already have anxiety, which a lot of comedians have,
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  Speaker 3: you're already like socially awkward, which a lot of comedians are.
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  Speaker 3: You don't feel accepted, which is how a lot of
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  Speaker 3: comedians feel. And then you look at those numbers. You're
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  Speaker 3: like 2,400. I only have 2,400 followers? I've been doing
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  Speaker 3: comedy for seven years. Why do I only have 2,400 followers?
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  Speaker 3: And then you go to someone's page that you'd never
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: even heard of. They have 1.2 million. You're like, what
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  Speaker 3: the fuck?
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  Speaker 2: And, and so this is about being grateful in the
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: position that you, you're in. I remember when they would,
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  Speaker 2: people was pushing me, oh, you need to get on
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  Speaker 2: the internet. You need to be on social media. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: But I would see those people that had all those followers.
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  Speaker 2: And that same year, The year before that, I did
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  Speaker 2: a half-hour special with Comedy Central. Then year 2018, I
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: did a full-hour special with Comedy Central. I had 500
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  Speaker 2: followers on Instagram. I had 300 subscribers on YouTube on
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: a page that I didn't own. I had to fight
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: to get this page. I had less people on Facebook,
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: but I was efficient in what I was doing. So
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  Speaker 2: the numbers didn't, they didn't pick me because I had
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  Speaker 2: these numbers. They picked me because I came and I
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: did what I did. And then they, oh, he's great.
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  Speaker 2: So then we started going, you know, a route to
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  Speaker 2: build it up, but we were already getting things prior
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  Speaker 2: to the numbers. Right.
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  Speaker 3: What year is this again?
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: This is 17 and 18.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. So the difference is that in 17 and 18,
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: people were just starting to be aware of of the
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: power of social media. And then they were really concentrating
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: on different comics that had a large social media following.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I think that was like right when it
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  Speaker 3: first started happening.
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  Speaker 2: Dane Cook had blew up before that.
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  Speaker 3: That was a, yeah, that was a MySpace.
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  Speaker 2: That was a MySpace thing. Yeah. Internet, another internet thing.
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  Speaker 2: That's true.
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  Speaker 3: That's true. That was different. But the difference is like
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  Speaker 3: he had gotten so huge just from that, that he
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: was already doing like arenas.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And, So he was already huge, and then they just
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: went with him. But he was, like, super popular. Now it's, like,
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  Speaker 2: So now moving up to this, because I have a
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  Speaker 2: strong one with this. So I have a million followers here,
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: a million followers there, all these specials. I still didn't
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: get invited to the BET Awards. I still don't get
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: invited to. a bunch of things. I still get looked
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: over for things, even though I have numbers and success,
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: but I don't worry about it. I'm just in my,
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• 17:21
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• 17:42
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  Speaker 2: But I also have no desire to inflate things and
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: compare myself to somebody or make myself seem like I'm
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: more than what it is. Like, guys are, hey, man,
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: I'm at this room. I got 50 tickets sold. Okay.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: How much the room seat? The room seat, 300.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: Okay, cool.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: You had 50 people more than if you didn't play
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: the role. You know what I'm saying? Because who knows
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: you in Utah? It's a building thing. Like, I got
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: all of this... going on. But if I go to Utah,
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: I'm in a comedy club. It doesn't matter what happened
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: the night before. I was just in the arena. But
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: in Utah, it's like it takes me back to on
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: Trading Places. He said, hey, man, he gave all this
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: elaborate what this watch is. And that man said... This
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: is what this calls in St.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: Louis.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: Like, I don't care about you pawning the watch.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: And so I don't have that. And I'm not, if I,
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: it's like you own the club. Okay. It's guys that
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: can come to your club and sell your club out.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: And then it's guys that come to the club and
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: you pay for the room. Okay. Then it's guys, like
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: when you in the theater, some, you can scale a
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: theater down. Some theaters hold 4,600 people. But you can
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: scale it down to 2,000. But then the... I'm not
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: going to say if the room holds 4,600, I put 2,000
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: tickets on sale. I didn't sell out the theater. I
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: sold what I put on sale. You know what I'm saying?
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Because I'm not to the point where I can get
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: the 4,600 yet. If I could sell the room out,
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: then I... I will need to relish the real accomplishment
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: versus the lesser accomplishment.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: Inflating.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And because I don't have this thing where I'm
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: in competition with what happened before me.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: With other people.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: So I'm in San Antonio. We at the theater. Because
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: people can make you feel bad about anything. If you're
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: a person that feels bad, just think. So Minnesota, it's
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: all these people that's on the team that play for
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: the Boston Celtics that are millionaires. They're already millionaires. They
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: play in the league. Boston traded seven people to Minnesota
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: for one person, Kevin Garnett. They got rid of seven
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: human beings altogether. For one person. So it's like if
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: I was a person that felt bad about my career,
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: this would make me feel bad. Like the first person
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: that they asked, okay, I'm going to trade this person
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: for that person. They're like, no. Well, I'm going to
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: give you two more people. They're like, no. And then, well,
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: I'm going to give you four more people. They're like, okay.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: And a lottery pick. Okay. I'm going to feel horrible.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: They traded me for seven people. Y'all didn't even want me. Realistically.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: So Boston went, they got Kevin Garnett. I mean, yeah,
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Kevin Garnett and seven other millionaires. They got all this money.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: They went to Minnesota. So if somebody wanted to make
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: you feel bad about something, they could if that's how
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: you are. So I'm in San Antonio. The line is
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: around the block. The place is sold out. It's the
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: same sell out no matter who comes in that lady
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: said to my face you should have saw it when
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: Matt Rife came I was like in my mind I
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: was like and I asked I said was it a
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: different theater she said no same theater so when Matt
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Rife came he sold it out I sold it out
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: two nights I mean two days in the same night
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: but her thing was you should have saw it when
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Matt Rife came I was like.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: Okay she probably wanted you to feel bad.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: But I'm not.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: Good for you. But the thing is a lot of
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: people would. That's what it is. A lot of people
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: are in competition with other people. I think you should
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: be inspired by other people. If you want to compete
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: in that way, be inspired. But the moment you turn
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: it into a negative, it's like you're a fool. You're
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: being a fool.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Compete in charity.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: Also, inspiration is power. It's fuel. If you see someone
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: doing well, so you see someone set and you like it,
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: that's fuel that makes you want to go work. Makes
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: you want to get some shit done. It gives you energy.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: Or it could cripple you if you're a dummy. If
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: you're a dummy and you get angry and you get
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: bitter and then you just put all this negativity on
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: the person who's doing better than you, which a lot
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: of people do.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: That's a weird dynamics in this business when you know
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: that it's going to be people, no matter what you're doing,
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: it's going to be somebody doing better than you. When
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: I was In comedy clubs, I remember being there and
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: they were papering the room. Okay. I wasn't saying I
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: was selling out. They was papering the room. I know
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: out of all these, 300 people in there, 240 of
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: these people came because it was freezing. They sent out
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: their email blasts. But then what I looked at was
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: they wanted to come.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah. They wanted to come. They're probably comedy fans, which
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: is why they were on the email list in the
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: first place. And then those people, you give them a
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: great show, they'll come back.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Then the next time I came, they didn't pay for
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: the room. They sold the tickets.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: That's how it used to be, man. That was the
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: old days before social media. You would build a market.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: So you would just show up at Philadelphia once a year.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: Show up. Do your homework. Make sure you got a
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: tight set. You've been practicing. You're ready to rock. Fuck
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: these people up and then leave. And then they're like,
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: can't wait till you guys are back again. And then
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: next time you come back, you know, all right, I
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: built an audience now. I can't disappoint these people. I
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: got to get fired up. And that's what it used
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: to be. It used to be a totally organic thing
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: across the whole country.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Is it a thing? Is it a difference, in your opinion,
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: between me bringing my audience to a venue from whatever
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: other thing that I do versus... people coming that don't
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: know anything about me and me winning that person over
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: versus the person. Yeah.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: It's a different thing. You know, people are coming to
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: see you specifically. You've already won them over. That's a
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: different thing. Or they want to take a chance on you.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: That's a different thing. Cause I've heard about you, but when,
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: you know, that's a completely different thing. Cause that's your,
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: you have an audience. Now you have fans when you
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: are just performing in a club and it's a papered room.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: You have an opportunity. You have an opportunity to turn
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: these people into fans. You have an opportunity to give
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: these people a great night and have a good time.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: And also you're doing your fucking thing, which is the
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: most important thing of all. Everybody is results oriented. I
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: try to be process oriented when I with everything I do.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: I'm process oriented. I think about. There's a goal that
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: you got to reach, but how do you get to
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: that goal? The way you get there is not thinking
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: about the goal. The way you get there is thinking
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: about what you're doing. What's the process? The process is
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: writing bits, performing them, tweaking them, getting them tight, knowing,
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: reviewing tapes, going over your material, going over your writing,
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: talking with friends. And then every day it gets a
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: little bigger. Every day it gets a little better. Every
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: day that knife gets a little sharper. That's the process.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: That's the process that leads you to become whoever, whoever
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: you are.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: And then you add other little pieces in that process.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: I remember I was talking to Bobby Lee and me
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: and Bobby Lee talking. I said, Bobby, you don't realize
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: where you met me at. And he's like, well, is
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: this going to be a good story or is it
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: a bad story? Bobby's got a lot of bad stories.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: I said, you met me at the Houston Improv. And
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: they called me and asked me, did I want to host?
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: A room that I already sell out, you know what
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: I'm saying? They asked me, did I want to host?
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: I said, cool. So I came and I hosted, and
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: I was not trying to, but I was destroying his feature.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: I'm just hosting.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: Well, you should not be hosting, especially at the Houston Improv.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: But my thing was, this was years, this was years ago.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: But I say, Bobby, you don't understand. When I was
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: hosting at the Houston Improv, I was doing something that
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: most people didn't understand why I was even doing it.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: And they would see, like, why would you be hosting?
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: I said, because I'm not going to be in front
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: of Bobby Lee's audience. But it's people that live in
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Houston that his audience, that I have no idea who
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: I am. I said, Bobby, but before you, I said,
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: I was coming to the Houston Improv hosting for multiple people,
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: and I was just winning over fans that would never
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: had seen me if they wasn't coming to see you.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: They wouldn't be coming to my show. I said, so
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: before that, it was you were last, Bobby. It was you,
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: and the week prior to that, it was Monster Bronny.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: And the week prior to that was my girl Angela Johnson.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: And before that, it was some random white guy. I said,
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: I just came. And I want to do a comic.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: So me hosting was no big deal. I wasn't working.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: So I said, well, let me just come host it.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: That's what they want me to do. So I gained
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: fans from four different audiences in a month. So when
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: I came back, they was like, yo, I saw you
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: with Miles Ebron. And so I came back to see you.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: when you put your show up.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: I'm like, cool.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: So my process, that was a part of my process. I,
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: it didn't matter who I hosted for. And then I
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: was like, okay, cool. You know, let, let me, let
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: me go. Like when I hosted for, um, Bill Burr,
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: Bill Burr was like, this is crazy. We had, we
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: in Austin at the Paramount is in like, and I said,
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: I said, the worst thing about this was that at
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: the time I was wearing all black and I went
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: to the show, And when I walked on stage, the
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: first thing I said is, hey, I do not work here.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Like eight people asked me, where's the bathroom?
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: I don't work.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: But it was like, I look like an usher. Like, yo,
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: this sucks. But it was a cool gig. That's hilarious.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: That's a smart approach. I mean, that's a great way
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: to build, especially if you're already headlining. Yeah, I think
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: that thing about concentrating on the process. People should try
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: to apply that to everything. My friend John Dudley, who
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: taught me archery, he's a big believer in that, being process-oriented.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: So you get better at archery. And he used to
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: compete all over the world, travel, compete in archery tournaments.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: I think that applies to everything. I think it applies
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: to music. I think that applies to everything. I think
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: one of the things that trips people up about social media,
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: a lot of these young guys in particular, young people
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: in particular... is that they are thinking about other people
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: and they are comparing themselves to other people and they
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: are looking at those numbers. And you're looking– you're spending
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: all of your energy. If you haven't allotted 100 units
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: of energy in a day, you're spending a disproportionate amount
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: on things that don't empower you and actually kind of
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: fuck your head up. Not good for you at all.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: Instead of saying, wow, I am chasing the fucking dream.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: I am out here being a professional comedian. And I
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: have a real chance to develop a real following. If
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: I put my time in, I put my effort, I
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: really care and I really work hard, I could sell
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: out a theater one day. That's possible. Like that's a goal.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: It should be a goal just like getting your PhD
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: in chemistry or whatever the fuck it is your goal is.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: But the process is what's important. The process is like
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: appreciating what you're doing, why you're doing it, and just–
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: bearing down and doing your best. That's it.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: And other people, you look at them as inspiration. Other
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: people that are kicking ass, you know, don't go, don't
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: get become a hater. That shit is so bad for you.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: I know so many dudes who have like hater tendencies
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: and they never excel.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Never.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: It's the, the counter thinking of an, an excellent person
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: is a hater. Someone was always trying to diminish people
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: and downplay people and look at someone in the, least
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: charitable way and the worst possible way to somehow or
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: another trying to make themselves feel better. But it doesn't work.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: It does the opposite of work. It robs you. It
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: robs you of your self-esteem. It robs you of your self-respect.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: You're spending so much time thinking about this other dude. Like, why?
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: It's a lot of energy. And my dad, this is
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: one story that I did not put in the special
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: that I should have. And my dad had all these thoughts.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: And he was I literally say he was a crazy man,
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: but when you think about the things that he would say,
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: it made sense. My dad, and why would you be
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: telling me this at the age that, but he just
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: gave it to me. I think I was like 11,
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: and my dad out of nowhere would say, you know something?
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: People spend the same time and money on being fake
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: when they can put that same time and money into
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: being real.
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, I didn't know, I didn't understand what
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: that meant, but as I got older, if you spend
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: any money or time faking something, you could probably spend
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: that money and time being real about something.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: You know, why go buy a fake necklace to act
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: like you rich when you can go buy a real necklace?
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: It was saying at some point it was saying, and,
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: you know, be actually be rich, you know, if that's what,
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: if you compare it to necklaces, but I just didn't
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: understand it at the time. But then as I got older,
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: I understood like, why put this, why put this time
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: in to pretending when you can put that same energy
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: and then become real at what you do. It makes
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: no sense.
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: My uncle Vinnie, when I was six or seven years old,
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: I was staying at his house with my cousins. And, uh,
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: We were supposed to brush our teeth. And I didn't
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: like following rules, period. And so I wouldn't brush my teeth. Instead,
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: I would take toothpaste and smush it around on my teeth.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: And so that when they smelled my breath, they would
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: smell toothpaste. And my uncle explained to me, he goes,
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: I understand why you're doing it. He goes, but the
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: amount of time that you're spending pretending to brush your teeth,
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: you could have just brushed your teeth. And I thought
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: about that when I was six. I was like, damn.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: I was just a little kid, but I was like.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: Ah, he's right.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: Why am I faking brushing my teeth? I was six
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: years old. My Uncle Vinny was like super patient, super calm.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: Out of all my family members, he was the strangest.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: Out of all these wild, crazy Italian people, like he
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: was an artist and he was like very soft-spoken and
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: never got angry about anything. He would always speak really rationally.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: I was like, God, he's so smart. He's just so peaceful.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: But the way he laid it out, he didn't say, hey,
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: I know you're not brushing your teeth, you little fuck.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: What's that?
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: It was the time you're spending pretending to brush your teeth.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: You could have just brushed your teeth. But it was
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: like sometimes adults will say something to you like that
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: when you're six. And it just gets in your head
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: and you're like, whoa, okay. That just saved me a
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: whole lot of time.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Like I can just brush them.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: Just brush your fucking teeth. Stop pretending. Stop faking. It
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: doesn't help anything. It does the opposite.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: It does the opposite. And, you know, people, the truth
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: sometimes is hurtful to people.
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: The truth doesn't feel good, you know, to a lot
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: of people, unfortunately. But, you know, you have to look
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: at it. You have to have perspective.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: But that's the ultimate hate right there. That's the ultimate
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: hate is for me to give you a falsehood instead
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: of tell you the truth right that's the ultimate it's
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: the ultimate hate.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: Especially if like you're making up a background for yourself
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: you're making up a story about your life that's not
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: true you're pretending you're somewhere in life that you're not.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: You know yo man just do the thing just do
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: the thing.
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah but it's hard for people it's hard for people
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: and then there's a lot of people that think you
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: just fake it until you make it And you hear
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: stories of this guy. I had $ 500 in my bank account,
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: but I told them I got this. I got that loan.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: And next thing you know, my business is making all
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: this money. And you go, wow, he faked it until
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: he made it. And it worked. And you think it's
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: going to work, but.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: It doesn't work most of the time. That's so few
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: and far between. Then they never tell you that that
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: guy goes to jail later for fraud.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: Yes, 100%.
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: 100%.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: The feds busted my house three years later and took everything.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: You're like, okay. Exactly.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: Like when they arrested Carl Spence here recently for all
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: his counts of tax fraud. I was like, okay. I
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: don't want that to happen to him, but.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: There it is.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: Right? I mean, that's what it is.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: I'm not laughing at Carlos. I'm just laughing at the
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: fact that you're like, yeah, when they bust his car.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: I mean, it didn't bring me any joy to see that.
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: I don't like anybody getting arrested for taxes. I think taxes,
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: until they have an accurate account of where the fucking
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: money goes, and until you completely eliminate all fraud and
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: waste— What the fuck are you doing locking people up
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: for not paying taxes? Like, you guys should get locked
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: up for not doing a good job with our money.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: So what do you think about all the new purchases
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: and redoing the White House and all this with tax dollars?
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: Did they do it with tax dollars? How much money
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: did they spend in tax dollars to do the ballroom?
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: Let's find out.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: They need a ballroom, though. That's how that guy snuck
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: in with a gun because they tried to do that
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: White House Correspondents Dinner in a hotel. That dude who
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: got arrested a few months back.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: What's this resolution, the pool, something full of algae right now?
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know about that. That's something about making
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: the pool look nice. Whatever that is, reflecting pool. Reports
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: indicate the new White House East Wing Ballroom is projected
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: to cost about $ 600 million with roughly half just over
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: $ 300 million coming from taxpayer-funded government accounts, despite earlier promises
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: that it would be taxpayer-free. $ 300 million sounds like a
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: lot until you find out how much money they spend
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: on other things. When you find out just how much
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: fraud is in NGOs, how much fraud is in nonprofits,
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: how much fraud is in insider trading and propping up
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: companies so that they can get better deals.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: The whole thing is fraud.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: The thing is, if you're spending, I understand how much
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: money goes in other things, but if you're spending any
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: money that's my money that I don't know. that I
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: need it or that's not really the aim, the goal...
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: You should be able to vote on it. You should
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: be able to vote on it. You should be able to.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: Vote on where all your tax money goes.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: How much tax money is being spent on getting smart
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: people in places, making smart children?
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: That's the big one.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: That's the thing.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: The big one is... If you look at our country
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: as a community, and that's what we're supposed to be doing.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: We're supposed to be the United States of America. All
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: that bullshit aside, that was the one good thing that
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: happened about 9-11. When 9-11 happened, after that, we were
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: all united. It was crazy. It was crazy. We realized
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: we are actually on a team. So if we're on
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: a team, why do we have these deeply impoverished neighborhoods
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: for decades and decades that are riddled with crime and
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: drug abuse? Why? Is it impossible to fix? That's crazy.
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: That's not true. It's just no one's tried to fix it.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: No one's done any effort to fix it. And if
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: you did fix it, you want to make America great.
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: Here's the best way. Less losers. And how do you
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: get less losers? More opportunities for people. More opportunities, more support,
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: more education, more everything that you need if that was
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: your neighborhood. And if we did that, we'd have to
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: switch the way our system runs. But that could be.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: Done, man.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: You don't have to have losers.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: Not that many.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: That's the thing about make America great, right? If you're
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: trying to make anything great, don't you need intelligent people
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: to do that? Of course.
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: That's the number one thing.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: So when we have all these divisive people that's on
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: a lower vibration, how is that making the country great
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: if we're putting.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: People in position that don't have the experience or the
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: education in those things. And then we just saying a
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: bunch of divisive things. You know, it was, if I'm
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: watching the extravaganza that happened in the White House, what
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: was the thing Michelle Obama is a man? Like, how
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: did that help? How did that help?
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: That guy says that every time he.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: Does a speech. But what is the thing? First of all,
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: It's it's really divisive because you know that a large
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: portion of the country is going to take this. It's
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: going to have a problem with this. You know, clearly
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: she's not a man. But it makes no sense like to.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: I've never seen this many people say so many damaging
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: things about a past president. It's like he's still on
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: the forefront. And it's not like. We have a president
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: that's doing the greatest job for this country, you know,
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: which is weird, a weird thing to me. And people
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: are going to ask, is that what's the belief? That's
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: the real belief of people? That's the real thing?
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: Well, listen, there's some crazy people that believe the world
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: is flat. There's a lot of dumb beliefs. There's probably
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: people that do believe Michelle Obama's a man. What that
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: guy does, he's like a pro wrestler. Like, he's got
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: a character called the Incredible Hulk. It's very crazy. Corny
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: in a lot of ways. Sometimes it's cringy. But the
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: point is he gets a lot of attention, a lot
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: of attention because of all this. That's what he's doing.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: So what he's trying to do is maximize the amount
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: of attention that he can get for a very short
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: window of career. This is not how he really feels,
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: how he really thinks. When you talk to him in
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: real life, he's very reasonable. This is an act that
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: he does, like a pro wrestling act. But what he
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: can do is fight. He's really good. And that's what's
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: so confusing about it all. So you got this guy
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: who's created this fake persona where he puts on an
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: American flag bandana, comes out to Hulk Hogan music, does
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: all his interviews with sunglasses on, has a bunch of crazy,
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: silly rhymes, and says ridiculous shit just trying to get attention.
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: The most amount of attention. It is very divisive. Don't
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: get me wrong. But that's by design.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: So he's Hulk Hogan and Randy Savage in the same person.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: But an actual fighter.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: But an actual fighter.
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: And a really fucking good one, man. He just knocked
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: out Derrick Lewis at the White House. Derek Lewis has
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: the most knockouts in the history of the sport.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: Don't do that. Don't do that, Joe.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: Don't do what?
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: Don't say that so excited because Derek Lewis go to
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: the same gym. Main Street Boxing Gym in Houston. I'm
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: very close to that.
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: Dude, I love Derrick Lewis.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: I don't like the fact that Derrick Lewis lost that fight.
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: I think Derrick of 10 years ago would have been
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: a real fucking problem for that dude. Because Derrick of
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: 10 years ago, you couldn't hold him down. He would
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: just get up. There's a whole compilation of people trying
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: to hold Derrick Lewis down. He just gets a hand
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: on you and just whoop. His grip, they did that
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: UFC grip thing where they test the grip. Everybody's like 140.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: The strong ones are like 160, 190. Derrick just squeezed
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: it casual, 218. And they were like, what the fuck?
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: So you see how problematic this was for me. You
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: already beat my friend. Then you turn around and say.
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: He beat a 40-year-old Derrick Lewis.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: A 40-year-old Derrick Lewis. Then turn around and say, Michelle
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: Obama's the man. I was like. Okay, you know what
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: I'm saying.
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: I know what you're saying.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: I'm pissed. Listen, you're right. I'm like, I'm pissed.
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: You're right. But I'm telling you, if you met that
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: dude in real life, you would get it. He's just
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: a dude. He's just a guy who is a competitive wrestler,
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: played in the NFL, and he's like, I got to
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: do something to figure out how to get people to
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: pay attention to me. Because it can't just be fighting.
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: It's not enough. If you look at Conor McGregor, you
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: look at Sugar Sean O'Malley, You look at these guys
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: that have these flamboyant personalities, these big personalities. Cassius Clay
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: is the original example. They get an immense amount of attention,
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: and that translates into much more money and much more opportunities.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: There's no fucking way that guy would have gotten that
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: fight at the White House if he couldn't fight. Because
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: the fight that he had before that, he fought Curtis Blades,
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: who was a top 10 UFC heavyweight, huge wrestler. And
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: they went to war, dude. I mean, he put it
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: on him for three fucking rounds. Like, Curtis just has
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: an insane heart and survived it. But that guy can
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: fucking fight. But just that alone is not enough. You
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: got to get attention. I don't agree with it. I
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: wouldn't do it. It's not my thing. I don't like it. Right?
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: But I get it and it's smart.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: With Muhammad Ali, though, he was very respectful in his act.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: you know, to get attention, you know.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: Just like he wasn't. I mean, he wasn't with other people,
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: but he would show up at fucking Sonny Liston's house
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: and scream about him on his fucking front lawn at
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: four in the morning. He did wild, crazy shit. He
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: did a lot. He was just all about getting your
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: heart rate up, getting your emotions in there. He was
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: so fucking smart. He knew before everybody that you could
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: just get somebody into a frenzy and they wouldn't be
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: able to sleep. Their whole life revolved around fighting you.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: And I can't let this guy beat me in the
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: fear of losing. He's going to keep you weak. It's
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: going to keep you. You're not going to be able
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: to eat as much food. You're going to feel nervous.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: But you see what happened when somebody called him Cassius Clayton. Oh, yeah.
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. Who was that? What fighter was that? He
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: kept punishing him, saying, what's my name?
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: Your mama name. Your mama name. But that didn't work
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: out for him. He beat the sleeves off of him.
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: He beat the piss out of him, and he carried him.
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: He carried him while he was beating his ass. Dude,
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: he was a special, special guy. I'm not comparing him
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: in terms of his cultural significance to Josh Hokut, because
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: my parents, my mother, and my stepfather were hippies. They
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: never watched fighting. But when he had a rematch with
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: Leon Spinks, that's how much of a cultural figure he was.
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: They wanted him to beat Leon Spinks. They're like, oh,
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: my God, he's got to win. He's got to win.
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: Hippies sitting in front of the fucking TV in, like, 1970,
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: whatever it was.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: How crazy it is they have Italian hippies. Because I
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: heard it. It was like my family was like, I
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: thought they was Italian.
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: Well, they were hippies, but, you know, my grandmother went
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: to jail for running numbers for the mob. So it's like,
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: there was a lot of, uh, okay. There was a
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: lot of real Italian.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: Grandma went away for a little bit. She wouldn't rat
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: him out. So she did some time.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: I was at a, I was at a show one
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: time and I said, um, well, the Africans and in,
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: in here and this Italian dude, he's from Sicily. He
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: raised his hand and I said, And the people were like,
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: why is he raising his hand? I was like, he knows. Like,
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: he knows.
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: He knows.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: So he was like.
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a really good reason why Sicilians have darker hair,
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: curly hair, darker skin.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: He was like, yeah.
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: The Moors.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: And that's all I said was, he knows. And people
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: who got it, they was like. Right, right, right. And
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: at that point, it's like when people don't know that
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: you have some sort of level of intelligence. Yeah, you
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: got some information. They're like, oh, okay. Like, yeah. It's
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: a big thing. But that's funny, though. Italian hippies. But
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: my grandmother also.
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, there was a lot of hippies back then, man.
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: And I think the original idea behind it was great.
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: And I was just watching this thing today about the
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: CIA and LSD and what they did. It was really funny, man.
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: It was a... That video? Yeah, that cute Animal Day show.
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: Isn't it dope? See if you can find it. Put
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: it up because it's kind of cool.
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: There's conveniently an MKUltra hearing going on right now.
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: Oh, how convenient.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: Listen, bro.
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: I got it right here, Jamie. I'll send it to you.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: They 100% are still doing that. No ifs, ands, or buts.
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: If you think they did that in the 60s and
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: they 100% did. if they're doing mind control experiments on
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: people and they're influencing people's opinions and half of the
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: reason why people are at odds with each other all
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: day long online is probably government intervention at one point
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: or some government's intervention. If not ours, Russia and China.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: This is wild that The CIA created the hippie movement.
• 49:40
  Speaker 6: And your mom's favorite band probably helped them. In the 1950s,
• 49:44
  Speaker 6: the CIA bought up the world's supply of LSD. They
• 49:47
  Speaker 6: brought it to the pharmaceutical company Eli Lilly, who reverse
• 49:50
  Speaker 6: engineered it, giving them an unlimited supply and a complete monopoly.
• 49:54
  Speaker 6: Then the testing started. One early volunteer for these tests
• 49:57
  Speaker 6: was Ken Kesey. Kesey wrote a book inspired by this experience,
• 50:01
  Speaker 6: which became a bestseller. Then Kesey went on to host events,
• 50:04
  Speaker 6: which he called acid tests. And he wasn't charging anyone,
• 50:08
  Speaker 6: he just wanted people to show up and do acid.
• 50:11
  Speaker 6: For these events, he hired an unknown house band called
• 50:13
  Speaker 6: The Grateful Dead. These events became wildly popular and with
• 50:17
  Speaker 6: them rose the popularity of the band. So The Grateful
• 50:19
  Speaker 6: Dead begins touring and Kesey follows them around in a
• 50:22
  Speaker 6: bus from show to show.
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: And everywhere he went.
• 50:24
  Speaker 6: He brought a vat full of Kool-Aid laced with LSD.
• 50:27
  Speaker 6: This guy had a seemingly endless supply, exporting the hippie
• 50:30
  Speaker 6: culture all around the U.S., Meanwhile, the CIA is flooding
• 50:33
  Speaker 6: college campuses with LSD under the guise of research. And
• 50:37
  Speaker 6: the Grateful Dead was just one of many bands in
• 50:39
  Speaker 6: this movement. At the same time, in Laurel Canyon, came
• 50:42
  Speaker 6: a wave of musicians with something in common. They were
• 50:44
  Speaker 6: all children of high-ranking military officials. The biggest names in music.
• 50:49
  Speaker 6: Jim Morrison of the Doors was the son of an admiral.
• 50:51
  Speaker 6: Frank Zappa's father was a chemical warfare specialist. Even Crosby, Stills,
• 50:55
  Speaker 6: and Nash. Yeah, all three of them. And all of
• 50:58
  Speaker 6: these bands as well. The theory is the CIA orchestrated
• 51:01
  Speaker 6: the hippie movement to steer a very real anti-war movement
• 51:04
  Speaker 6: into something a little easier to combat. Dissent without teeth.
• 51:08
  Speaker 6: The hippie slogan was literally, Turn.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: On, tune in, and drop out.
• 51:15
  Speaker 6: In other words, do acid and remove yourself from society.
• 51:18
  Speaker 6: And a lot of them did drop out of society
• 51:20
  Speaker 6: to go live in communes in the woods. This intersection
• 51:23
  Speaker 6: between hippie culture and the CIA could all be a
• 51:26
  Speaker 6: great big coincidence. Maybe military brats naturally want to rebel.
• 51:30
  Speaker 6: And maybe the CIA was giving away acid because they're.
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: Chill like that.
• 51:34
  Speaker 6: Maybe the CIA created the hippie movement. And your mom's
• 51:37
  Speaker 6: favorite band probably helped them.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: Isn't that wild?
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: That's wild. They also had a big influence on gangster rap.
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: Big influence on promoting gangster rap.
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: Oh, for sure. 100% proven.
• 51:52
  Speaker 5: 100%.
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: 100%.
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: They wanted to fill prisons.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: You want to push that over anything else, you know,
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: because we can look at how rap music changed and
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: what it changed in 1992.
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: After 1992, there was like no more positive rap.
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: Well, it was whenever Straight Outta Compton came out, because
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: I was in Boston at the time. I remember to
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: the day it happened.
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: But Straight Outta Compton wasn't a drug-filled-induced album. If you
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: look at a lot of the songs that was on
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: that album, it was rebellious songs against the system.
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: Fuck the police.
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: And then... 1992, man, when they decided, yo, we don't
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: want no more De La Soul. We don't want no
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: more Tribe Car Quest. We don't want no, you get
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: them leather medallions off you. It's like, yo, we need, like, yo,
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: self-destruction and West Coast All-Stars, they was like, what? They
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: coming together?
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: Hell no.
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: Hell no. No, we need this to be divisive. We
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: need them to separate. And that's crazy that the biggest
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: times that I've experienced this country being together was the
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: Olympics when the Dream Team came, 9-11, and COVID. That's
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: the biggest time that we, the three biggest times I've
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: ever even seen us together.
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because we need something. We need something that's real.
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: We need some sort of an event that makes us realize,
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: first of all, the fragility of life. That's important. And
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: we have to realize that we're all supposed to be
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: a part of a team.
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: And you can't play on a team if your teammates
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: don't think that you're valuable.
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: Not only that, you can't play on a team if
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: your teammates are poisoning you. If your teammates are allowing
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: you to eat rotten food so that you can't play
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: and maybe giving you inferior gear on purpose... And maybe
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: keeping you in a place where you can't get sleep
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: so that you're not going to evolve. You're always going
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: to be tired. You're going to be fatigued. So you're
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: never going to get better at whatever the fuck it
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: is you're doing. You're never going to advance in life.
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  Speaker 2: This is how I see it.
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: That's not a good team.
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: This is how I see with parenting. It's hard to
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: parent if your number one goal is survival. Right. You
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying? It's hard to parent. Right. You know,
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: you got to parent from a comfortable space. You can't
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: parent from... Nervous chickens really don't lay eggs. That's true.
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: So the thing is, you... like the way I parent
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: now versus how my mom, my mom was strictly survival.
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: So my thing is survival first.
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Then the rest of it.
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: You know, I don't remember going to, um, on vacation
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: with my parents, you know, like vacation.
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: What?
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: Right. Your mom working two jobs and going to school
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: trying to better, she's just taking care of you. Right.
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: So I'm not, my kids go on vacation. You know,
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: it's different. You know, so I see things from both
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: sides all the time because I'm in, which makes me grateful.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: I'm grateful that I can do the things I can
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: do with my family, you know what I'm saying, versus
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: parenting from a place of frustration. Yeah. You know, but
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: I understand this, this frustration thing. You know, I'm trying
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: to take care of you and, you know, and then
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: sometimes I look at my kids like, You know what
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: I'm saying? You have it really easy because if I
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: wouldn't have washed them dishes, my mom would have destroyed me.
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: Because her mindset is, hey, I'm trying to take care
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: of y'all. Y'all got the help in this. You know,
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: with me, it was like we have a housekeeper. You
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying? The housekeeper come in four days
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: out the week, you know, and now I'm like, so
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: you just going to throw that stuff on the floor
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: and you making it hard for the housekeeper?
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: You know, the reason why she's here four days a
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: week is so to make your life easier. But you're
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: adding on to... By being lazy. By being lazy.
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: Like, I don't... There's a balancing act, right? You want
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: to protect your children, but you don't want them to
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: develop soft. You want them to be able to take
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: care of their own problems. And you want them to
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: be able to understand the consequences of their actions. So
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: there's this, like, fine line of, like, encouragement and punishment
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: and like explaining to them how your life was different
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: and you have to appreciate this life this is very
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: unusual you're super fortunate but i think ultimately what they
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: learn from is how you behave that's a giant part
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: of being a parent that people i don't think are
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: totally aware of until you start doing it. They understand.
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: Whatever the fuck you say is one thing. That's great.
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: What you do is what they really say. And if
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: you're a lazy fucker who's always making excuses, your kids
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: are going to not have respect for you. They're going
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: to know real early on you're kind of full of shit.
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: This is the craziest thing, though. You know how hard
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: it is to put someone out on punishment and then say, hey, Pac,
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: we're going to Cabo. He's like, yeah. Am I on
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: punishment if we go into Cabo?
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: You don't get your iPad for 16 hours.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: When we get to Cabo, you stay in your room
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: and overlook the ocean. And think about your consequences.
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: As you order room service. Drinking Coca-Cola, eating French fries.
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: Lamb chops coming to the room. He's like, yo, you
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: on punishment, dude. So I can't have oysters.
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: You hear the birds chirping.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: And you looking at the waves. It's rough. It's a
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: certain part of success that you almost can't punish because
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: it's like I'm not staying at home because you don't
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: punish me. See, my mom, it's just different. It's different.
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: My mom would go in her room. and turn on
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: Knotsland and the Dynasty, and I'm in my room with
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: no TV, because it was only one TV. There's a
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: TV in every room. The punishment was come in here
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: and watch Falcon Crest with me. What? I don't want
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: to watch no Falcon Crest. And then you start watching
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: Falcon Crest, and now you love it. You're like, so
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: when is it coming on again? That's why I like M.A.S.H.
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? I would be in trouble,
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: and you're watching M.A.S.H. and Bonanza, and then all of
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: a sudden, you love M.A.S.H. I cried when M.A.S.H. went off.
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: Do you remember the dude who dressed up like a
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: girl in M.A.S.H.? Jamie Farr?
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: He was my neighbor.
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: I was your neighbor? Yeah. Wow.
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: Back in California. He lived right next door, two houses down.
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: Wow. Clinger.
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: It used to be just me and him, and then
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: another guy built a house in between us. It was cool.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: Very friendly guy.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: Played a good character.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: That was a good show.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, MASH was a very good show. You know, and
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: I said this the other day to a friend of mine.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: I said, like, I listen, I used to ride and
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: take my kids to school and listen to morning shows.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: You know, really Tom Joyner. You know, listen to Tom Joyner.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: And this is something I can listen to with my kids.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: Now there's no morning shows that I can listen to
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: with my children without them putting in a different element
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: that I don't want my kids to be a part of.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: You know, that's a weird thing that they cursing on
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: radio and doing all this other stuff.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: Well, they can't curse on radio still.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: Oh, yes, they can. Can they?
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: They changed it?
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: They'll drop a B word in a minute.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: Oh, a B word. Yeah. But that's it. You can't,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: you can't use, you can't say fuck.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: But the rest of it, you know, my You know,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: you got daughters. You're in the car. Right, right, right.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: And you're hearing some shit. You don't want them to hear.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: Like, that's a weird thing. You're like, so they go
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: to school and, you know, and they say, you watching
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: the B? You're like, damn, that was the ending of
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: the show. Right. So now you just, we ride and
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: listen to Keech Cole. You know what I'm saying? With
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: no talk. Oh, I listen to NPR. I listen to Urban...
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: urban network you know for them to listen now they
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: got all these political questions and and you know when
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: you're five-year-old like so why aren't we voting i mean
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: oh it's because you've been listening to karen hannah it's
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: the whole time on the way to school or from
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: school so it's um it's weird how you what shows
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: would you sit down and watch with your kids now
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: You know, they had to watch the shows that I
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: grew up watching. You know, you got to go back.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: You got to watch Perry Mason and Family Matters and,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: you know, The Cosby Show, you know, Different World. We
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: had to go back and watch Good Times. You know,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: we can't watch the current things, you know. So, you know,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: even with comedy, I took Hassan to a comedy show
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: with me to see some friends. And he was 14
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: at the time and we left because it was no,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: it was nothing. The things that were being said, it
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: kind of made me go back to when, um, Cosby
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: did the, the story about his son going to see
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: Eddie Murphy and he's daddy said these things. And I
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: was sitting there like the, after the first, Two minutes,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, we got to get out of here.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: How old was he at the time?
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: 14.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: 14.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: That's too young.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, yo, man.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: But, I mean, the guy who's doing comedy is doing
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: comedy for adults that are drinking in a nightclub, right?
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: No, we was at an event where it was all
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: these bodybuilders. The gym, Next Level, had did a show
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: for all the people that work out there and the trainers.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: And I'm thinking, okay, this is at a ballroom. You know,
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: it's probably going to be pretty cool. And I stopped in.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: You know, we sat in the back. And then it
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: went left. And I was like, hey, man, let's get
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: out of here. And he seen me. And so he's like, no,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: this ain't the same. I'm like, yeah, I'm not going
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: for a certain type of laugh. I'm not doing shock value.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: You know, so he's watched almost all the specials. You know, so...
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: it's not the, it's not the, the same for, for him.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: You know, and he look, he knows a lot of comics.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: So it's, it's not, this wasn't conducive. I was like, Hasan,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: we out. We out of here. He's like, but it's
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: some comics you can go and you can watch they,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: they whole show like a Marcus D. Wiley. He can
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: get an understanding of at least marriage, you know, how,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: how marriage go to give you some, some fuel. But
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: I think the, the landscape of, of, Comedy is different
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: for different people. Not knocking the people who do shock
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: value or a lot of sexual content. That's their stick.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: And they're probably young. And at some point they'll grow.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: Hopefully they'll grow. And it'll be more things in life
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: to talk about. People are like, well, how do you
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: have this many specials? Because I have a life. I
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: had a life before that I talked about. And then
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: I have a life, a current life. that you know
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: I'm still experiencing things so I'm going to talk about
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: things that that's a little different because I'm living and
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: I'm not stuck in sex is not the number one
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: thing I remember when I figured that I was sex
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: wasn't that big when I went to you know they
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: had the thing Netflix and chill and I actually wanted
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: to watch the movie get your hand off my leg
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to watch this movie You know what I'm saying?
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: That's funny. So it's a thing about the development in
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: this game of how you grow and what you think about.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: Well, I think comedy is just one of the problems
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: with the label is that there's no genres. It's not
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: like blues comedy, rock and roll comedy, hip-hop comedy, EDM comedy.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: It's just comedy. You don't know what it is. It's
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: just different people's perspective on things. And there's different kinds
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: of comedy that people like. You know, some people are
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: giant Richard Pryor fans. Some people are Sam Kinison fans.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: Some people are Jerry Seinfeld fans. And some people love
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: Bonnie Raitt. And some people love, you know, whatever. James Brown.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: Fill in the blank. There's a lot of different styles
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: of music. And there's a lot of different styles of comedy.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: And all that I care is that you enjoy what
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: you're doing. And you're doing it because you enjoy it.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: And if you're doing that, I don't give a fuck.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: I don't give a fuck what you're doing. I don't
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: care if you have props. I don't care if you
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: write signs and hold them up for the crowd. I
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: don't give a shit what you're doing. I don't care
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: if you do impressions. I don't give a fuck what
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: you're doing.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: That was a huge.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: So when you talk about the scope of comedy, I
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: can start with Carol Burnett, and I watched that, but
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: the guy who I watched on HBO a lot, I
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: knew I wasn't going to do that type of stand-up.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: That was just a whole different thing, but Gallagher. It
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: was crazy to me.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: Crazy.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: That was the craziest.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: Everybody wore plastic. They had garbage bags around their necks.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: Like the front, what, six rows?
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just getting splattered with watermelons and pineapples and coconuts
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: and whatever the fuck he was, cabbage.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: Ridiculous. Ridiculous.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: But he also had some good jokes.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: Some solid jokes in between then. Dude did a ton
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: of specials.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: You know the craziest story, the Gallagher story? Is Gallagher
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: retired and his brother took over. His brother was Gallagher 2.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: So he had a brother that kind of looked like Gallagher.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: I remember that.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: I remember Gallagher 2.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: And then somewhere down the line, Gallagher decided he wants
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: to start doing comedy again. And he's like, hey, Gallagher 2,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: the gig is up. And he's like, no, no, no, no, no.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: I'm making money.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: I'm Gallagher 2. I think there was some sort of
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: a legal dispute. Find out if that's correct. There was
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: a legal dispute between them. Gallagher's younger brother, Ron, who
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: shared a strong likeness to Leo, asked him for permission
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: to perform shows using Gallagher's trademark Sledge-O-Matic routine. Leo granted
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: his permission on the condition that Ron and his manager
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: clarified in promotional materials that this was Ron Gallagher, not
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: Leo Gallagher, who was performing. Ron typically performed in venues
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: smaller than those in which Leo Gallagher performed. After several years,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: Ron began promoting his act as Gallagher 2 or Gallagher
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: TOO or TWO. In some instances, Ron's act was promoted
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: in a way that left unclear the fact that he
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: was not the original Gallagher. Leo initially responded by requesting
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: only that his brother not use the sledge-o-matic routine. You
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: can't use the fucking, you can't use the sledgehammer. Ron
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: nonetheless continued to tour as Gallagher 2 using the routine.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: In August 2000, Leo sued his brother for trademark violations
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: and false advertising. The court ultimately sided with Leo and
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: granted an injunction prohibiting Ron from performing any act that
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: impersonated his brother in small clubs and venues. This injunction
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: also prohibited Ron from intentionally bearing likeness to Leo. What?
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: Imagine you can't look like your brother.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: You can't. Cut your mustache.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta change your mustache. You gotta get rid
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: of the beard. That's crazy. So did um did Gallagher
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: continue with his career after he kicked his brother out
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: did he come back probably was that part of it
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: yeah I think I don't know no but I mean
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: does it say it there didn't say.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 4: It here it doesn't say not specifically in this paragraph no.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: Does it did when did Gallagher start performing again put
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 3: that in a search See what it says. Because I
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: think he did start performing again.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he says he was rushed to the hospital after
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 4: a performance in 2011. Oh.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: So.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: Okay. And what year did he sue his brother?
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: 2000.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: Oh, so he did start doing comedy again. So that's it. Yeah.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: So he's like, hey, motherfucker.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he had a special in 2007 and 2014.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't be doing that with Gallagher 2 running
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: around siphoning off of your crowd. You know, people are like, honey,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: you want to spend 50 bucks and see Leo? Or
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: do you want to spend 20 bucks and see basically
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: the same shit?
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: And see Ron.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: See Ron smashing fucking cabbage.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: Then you had Carrot Top.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: And imagine saying, yeah, you can perform, but you can't
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: use a sledgehammer.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: I would use a mallet. What about a mallet? Can
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: I use a mallet?
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: Can I use a baseball bat? Can I just have
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: someone pitch me things and I smash them into the crowd?
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: You can't own that.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: That's a different thing. I'm handing out oranges and tomatoes
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: in the audience. Yeah.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: I honestly, I don't give a fuck what you do
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: as long as you like what you're doing. It's like
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: I love certain kinds of music that's completely opposite to
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: other shit that I love. I mean, I like all
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: kinds of stuff. I don't think you should pigeonhole yourself
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 3: with anything.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: But I would not take my kids, especially when they're
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: really young, to see someone who's like very sexual or
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: really rowdy or really raunchy.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: You know, the caveat to this is he was in
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: the green room and they were looking right at him.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, tell me. I didn't know they act.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: Oh, so he didn't say, hey, bro, you got young kids?
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, man. Because I would say, hey, man, tonight,
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: Set an event, bro.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: Oh, I would definitely do that, especially if you were
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: another comic and you brought your kids out.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: Bro. Yeah, because Juan Villarreal used to bring his kids.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: Seven minutes on dick sucking.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 3: We got.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 4: It.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: Like, yo, you got to get him out of here.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: They don't need to know about all these techniques.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's weird.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that is weird, but you know what I mean?
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: It's like time and a place. Like, who is he
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: doing it for? I mean, they probably knew what he
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: did before they hired him. They probably wanted that. Someone's
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: a fan, which is fine, but just don't invite kids.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: And like I said, all I did was, hey, Hasan,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: let's go. And that's it. I didn't, hey, y'all should
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: have been. I'm like, man, do what you do, but
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: I'm getting my kid out of here. And then you
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: get the phone call. Hey, man, why you leave? really
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: want to know why I'm leaving because you are terrorizing
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: my child so yeah you know but I definitely wouldn't
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: take my girls to like I'm like.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 5: They don't need to see that they don't need to
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 5: see that really not at all my wife got mad
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 5: at me when I think one of my daughters was
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 5: six the other one was eight I had them watch
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 5: the movie Alien you ever see that movie Alien the
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 5: original movie yeah fucking terrifying and I was like this
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 5: is too young This is too young.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: I fucked up.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: You know, I think Hassan watched Annabelle when he was young.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: Oh, Annabelle's creepy.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: He was traumatized. He watched it at somebody else's house
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: with some other kids. And they were like, I guess
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: they understood. But Hassan was, it was a whole problem.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: You talking about sleeping with all the lights on in
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: the house? Like, I want all the lights on and
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: I'm sleeping in your bed.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: Do you ever go to that place in Vegas? It's
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: Haunted Museum. He has the Annabelle doll there.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 3: There it is. Which one is the one on the right? Oh,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: hell no. That's the real one?
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: It's the one on the left, the movie one?
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: Oh, really?
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: Interesting.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: Wow. So that Annabelle is... Both of them creepy as
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: hell to me.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: Well, there's something kind of extra creepy about the one
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 3: with eyes like a person, the left one.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: That's insane.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: You believe in ghosts?
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 4: Really?
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: Have you had experience?
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: No. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. I have. Let
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: me go back. Let me say that. I do believe
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: in ghosts. So my old house, when my mom say
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: that now, there's a girl that lives there. You know,
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: I don't know what happened at this house, but it's
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: definitely a girl that lives in the house. But she
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: would only come from, like, the hallway bathroom to the kitchen.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: And I remember during the pandemic.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: Wait a minute. You say a girl. You mean a ghost.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That's a girl.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: She's definitely a girl. And I remember during the pandemic,
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: I was in the den, and I was working on something.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: And literally... I just turned and said, so you up, huh?
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: Because I could feel her. And I had to go
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: back through my family. A lot of people in my
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: family have experiences with past relatives that passed on. My
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: uncle said he saw his dad, which was my grandfather,
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: in his shoes. And my mom said she saw my
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: grandfather before that died in the house that they had
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: in Mississippi. But yeah, I believe in ghosts. I believe
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: in unsettled spirits. But you definitely had a girl that
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: lived in that house.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 3: My grandmother, the one I was telling you about before,
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 3: she was very interesting. And she really strongly believed in ghosts.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 3: And there was a guy that stayed with them for
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: a while. They had like an upstairs area that they
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 3: weren't using once the kids left. And so they rented
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 3: out like it was like an attic space that they
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: had converted. I forget exactly what it was. Anyway, they
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: rented out a room to this guy. wherever the circumstances were,
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 3: and he died. And my grandmother swore that that dude
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: stayed in the house.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe it.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 3: I think it's possible that if something happens to you,
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: that if you're dying, it's a very traumatic experience. And
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 3: I have a feeling that we don't totally understand memory.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 3: And we assume that memory is something that only human
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 3: beings have. Or that only animals have. Or that only
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: creatures have. Living creatures have. I don't think that's real.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: I have a feeling there may be a type of
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: memory from particularly traumatic experiences that stays in a space.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 3: And I think this is one of the reasons why
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: they have to disclose within a certain amount of time
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: someone's been murdered in a house in a lot of
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: places before you buy it. Because people don't want to
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 3: live in a house that's got that energy in it.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 3: Because I think things keep energy. I think they do.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 3: I think there's something more to memory than just as
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: simple as, Oh, remember when we were five? I think
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: there's something else there. I think, I think that's our memory,
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: but I think there's a type of memory in things.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 3: That's what I think.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: I believe in the unseen world. So I believe in genes,
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: you know, I believe in angels. So it's an unseen world.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: That's not, you know, our thing, but, That was things
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: here before us.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: I think there's things here with us.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely with us.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 3: And people who don't think that haven't smoked DMT.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: But I definitely believe in gin.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 3: Get a hold of some DMT and you're like, okay,
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 3: I don't know shit. There's things around me all the time.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 3: There's things that are influencing you all the time. And
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 3: this is like when we talk about good energy and
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: bad energy. One of the things you experience in psychedelic
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: states is a clear recognition of like good things that
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: you've done and bad things you've done. The good way
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: of thinking, the good way you think about things, a
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: positive way and bad. I remember having negative thoughts in
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: an experience once and it was all these like dark fractals.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: And then I realized it was trying to show me
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: that these dark fractals, these crazy geometric, these like scary
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 3: patterns that I was seeing was because of my own thoughts.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 3: And then I released them and it turned into beautiful
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 3: geometric patterns over and over. And it kept saying, like,
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 3: look at this and look at this. And I was like, oh,
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 3: it's actually the way you think changes the world around you.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 3: It has an effect. It might not have the ultimate effect.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 3: It might not be 100% of what happens to you
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 3: and in your life. But it has a meaningful effect.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 3: We just can't measure it. And there's things that are
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: out there, whatever they are. They have some kind of
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 3: consciousness that are around us all the time. We just
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: don't have the senses to take them in. Just like
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: when you wave your hand over an earthworm and it
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 3: has no fucking idea you're doing that. We don't have
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 3: the senses to understand that there's things around us. And
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 3: people have been writing about these things for so long
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: to discount them all. They're all liars. They're all delusional.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 3: They're all crazy.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: I think that people discount them due to thinking that
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: they were on drugs.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: Well, they probably were. But it doesn't.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: Mean they're wrong. It doesn't mean they're wrong. You know,
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: like a drunk really don't tell a lot of lies.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: That's a drunk.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: A drunk don't tell a lot of lies. I'm drunk.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: I can't remember all that. I'm just saying what it is. Right.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: But when you, when people like LSD, you know, halluciners,
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: you know, or mushrooms or These things, people are like, well,
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: you only saw that because you was on this. But
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: maybe that's the portal on how you see certain things.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 3: I think there's certain things that we block ourselves from
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 3: being able to see. By our own protective instincts, we
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 3: protect our thoughts. I mean, this is why people, I think,
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 3: get paranoid when they smoke weed. One of the things
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 3: that weed does is it dissolves all these artificial barriers
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 3: that you've put between you and the thoughts of real danger.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 3: They're all there. You realize your vulnerability. You realize... who
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: you are.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: So just think of how years ago how weed was viewed,
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: how marijuana was viewed. It was taught that marijuana is
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: a gateway drug to crack. I didn't believe that. How
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: did that even correlate? But it's for those who are
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: trying to find an ultimate high. Maybe you just smoke
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: weed and that's all you ever did. And you wasn't
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: trying to find another high. I think some people try
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: to find another high, like now, man, a lot of
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: these young people are on so many different things at
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: the same time. Like, what are you searching for? You know,
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: they popping pills, doing Coke, drinking lean, doing everything all
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: at the same time. Like what is, and drinking, like what, what,
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: what are you trying to escape or what are you
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: searching for? You know, and I just know people who
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: just smoke weed and still smoke joints. They don't smoke the,
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: I know people who grow their own, but they not
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: even trusting what's going on now. Now they finding fentanyl
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: and all this marijuana, you know.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 3: And pesticides, pesticides, horrible pesticides. Cause what people don't know
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: is that a giant percentage of all the drugs or
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 3: marijuana rather that people are buying in places where it's
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 3: illegal is They're growing them in national forests in California
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 3: and the cartel is doing it. And the cartel uses
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 3: a bunch of pesticides and herbicides that are illegal, like
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 3: real toxic shit. And they find them doing it all
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 3: the time. They find these grow ops in the forest
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 3: all the time because it's a misdemeanor. So because marijuana
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: is legal in the state of California, growing it is
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 3: just a misdemeanor. So you can have a full scale
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 3: grow op in public land out in the forest. And
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 3: these guys find them there all the time. A friend
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 3: of mine found one in a ranch that he works at.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 3: He followed these PVC pipes and he realized that some
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 3: guy was diverting water into this little area that was
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 3: on Tahone Ranch, which is a big ranch outside of Bakersfield.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 3: But this dude that was on my podcast before, his
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 3: name is John Norris. He wrote a book about it.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 3: He was a game warden and he had it turned
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 3: into a tactical unit. They had to get like dogs,
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 3: like Belgian Malmois and shit with bulletproof vests. And they're
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 3: going in there having shootouts with the cartel because the
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 3: cartel had set up these marijuana grow ops in the woods.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 3: And it was his job to police that area. It's like, OK,
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 3: I guess that's what we're doing now. And then it's
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 3: a crazy.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: Story, man. Sound like moonshine. That's why you do moonshine. Exactly.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: And this thing moonshine moonshining developed into NASCAR. Exactly. Exactly.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 3: They had to outrun the cops. Yeah, that's what NASCAR
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 3: came about from. It's fun. I mean, listen, also, it's
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 3: Al Capone. You know, it's all the mob. They were
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 3: all running alcohol. And there was a lot of people
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 3: that were connected to them. You know, some people believe
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 3: that JFK's dad was involved in alcohol, but that's disputed.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 3: But the point is, like, a lot of people were
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 3: making money selling alcohol, and they were all criminals, all
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 3: of them. And so what are you doing? Are you
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 3: stopping people from getting marijuana?
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 4: Nope.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 3: What you're doing is you're empowering a criminal empire. And
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 3: you're giving them an immense amount of money. And they're
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 3: probably going to have to kill a few people because
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 3: people get in the way. They're probably going to have
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 3: to rob a few people because people are competition. There's
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 3: a little bit of a problem over here. We got
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 3: another guy growing.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: We live in a society where the bad guy is
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: definitely romanticized.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: So how do you stop people from wanting to be
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: the bad guy when It's so romanticized in everything.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 3: It's romanticized to the point where John Wick is a
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 3: good guy.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: John Wick is a contract killer for the Russian mob.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 3: He kills who knows how many fucking people, and he's
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 3: the good guy.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: But you got a problem with the Iceman. Right. The
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: Iceman was a terrible person. Right.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 3: He did it with poison. John Wick at least looks
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 3: sexy in that suit.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: But you cannot wait for John Wick 6 to come out.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: I can't wait. I love those– well, the John Wick
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 3: movie though, he had a reason. They killed his dog
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 3: and they stole his car. They fucked up. They fucked up.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 3: They stole the wrong guy's car and they killed the
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 3: wrong guy's puppy. And so you're rooting for him. You're
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 3: rooting for him to kill all these bad Russian guys.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 3: But you don't realize like that guy has been a
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 3: contract killer for the Russian mob for who knows how–
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 3: how many dads has he assassinated? How many fucking people
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 3: that have families that will never come home to them
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 3: because of John Wick?
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: Yep. And sometimes, a lot of times, people don't care.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: We don't care. That's weird.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 3: Well, we're weird. We're a weird animal. We're a weird
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 3: animal in a constant flux of thoughts. And we're trying
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 3: to figure out what's the right way to think and
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 3: the wrong way to think. And people join religions for it.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 3: They'll join cults for it. They'll join political movements for it.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: They just want to find a way to think that
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 3: makes them feel better than the way they think right now.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: You know, with the need to feel better outside of yourself,
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: you know, or your family, you know, or being, you know,
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: great to society. I think that's detrimental to this society
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: where I personally need to feel better, but I don't
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: want the community around me to feel better. And in
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: my mind, if everybody around you in the community feels better,
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: I think it makes for a more harmonious, you know,
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: environment than me just being the only one.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's because you're a wise person. The problem
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: is there's a lot of people that aren't wise and
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 3: there's no one wise around them. And that's, that's the
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 3: real issue is that there's an extreme lack of like a, a,
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 3: a good direction book on how to lead a solid life.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 3: You're not taught at school. At school, you're taught to
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 3: sit down and learn some shit that you don't give
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 3: a fuck about learning. Memorize this. Do good on the test.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 3: You got to get a job. What's a job? Well,
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 3: you got to sit there and do some shit you
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 3: don't want to do to get some money. And with
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 3: the rest of your time, you can do whatever you
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 3: want as long as you keep showing up every morning
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 3: at the same spot. Okay. And then that sucks. And
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 3: so what do you want to do? I want to
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 3: escape this suck. So what do I need? Cold syrup? Okay.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 3: Give me some of that. What do I need?
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: Weed?
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 3: Give me some of that.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: Adderall?
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 3: Ooh, Adderall makes me like the job. Okay. I'll take
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 3: this shit every day. Now I don't give a fuck.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 3: Now I'm trying to get ahead. Next thing you know,
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 3: I'm moving up the corporate ladder, and I'm a fucking animal, bro,
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 3: because I'm on Adderall. You're basically on meth. You're on
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 3: a well-designed, slow-drip amphetamine, and you're out there fucking sleeping
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 3: four hours a day, getting shit done, you know, driving
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 3: a Jaguar. What the fuck? And this is the problem
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 3: with our society. People don't have a real– there's a
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 3: lot of people out there that don't really have a purpose.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 3: They don't have a real feeling of purpose.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: In their life.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 3: You are very fortunate because you found a thing that
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 3: you're really good at, that you love to do, and
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 3: you make a great living doing it. A lot of
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 3: people don't have a thing and they never were taught
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 3: to pursue a thing or they never saw anybody else
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 3: do it and they realized they could do it too.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 3: And then next thing you know, they're married and they
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 3: have kids and they're in their 30s and then they're
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 3: in their 40s and they feel like shit.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: I'll ask you a question. You have a team, correct?
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: Team of people.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 3: In terms of what?
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: Team of people.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: Okay. Do you think your team is happy doing whatever
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: they do for the team?
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 3: If I didn't think that, they wouldn't be working.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: Okay. So you don't want to be the only one happy.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 3: On the team. No, that's terrible. And you don't want
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 3: to also have someone on the team that is one
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 3: of those people that's just never happy. That's a problem, too.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 3: That's a problem, too. There's people out there you can't fix.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: So with, like, I produce other people's specials now. And
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: comics have hit me. Hey, man, I want you to
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: distribute my special. I want you to do this for
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: my special. And the hardest thing, because I'm a small company,
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: the hardest thing is when I have to explain to
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: somebody why it's a no, you know, on this particular special.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: And it's not just my no. It is for other
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: people's no because I tell people and I explain this.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: If we're doing a special with you, you have to
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: get the approval of all five of us because we
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: all $ 5. different things. And I want everybody who's involved
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: in your special to want to do it, not they
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: have to do it because it's a part of the company. No,
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: I want them to want to do it. And I say,
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: I'm not putting you through a process that I'm not
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: putting myself through. And I've tested this team with me
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: giving them a special that I knew that wasn't special.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: And I'm the head. I'm like, I sent it out,
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: and then we brought it back to the table, and
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: it was a lot of silence at first. I'm like,
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 2: so what are we thinking? And they was like, I
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 2: don't know. I think this is horrible. I'm like, And
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: I'm just listening to everybody's, you know, opinion on it.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 2: And they was like, I don't understand the direction. I
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: don't understand where you're going with this. I just, you know,
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: we're going to have to fix a lot of it.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: I'm like, and I'm just sitting there listening. And we
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: took the vote. And when we turned the vote in,
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: it was five no's. And it was like, so what
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 2: was your take on it? I said, I knew it
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 2: was a no from the beginning. I just wanted to
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: make sure that y'all wasn't going to try to fluff
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: me Because he's the head, we're going to say yes.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, good. So anytime we do a project,
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: I put it on the table just like I put
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: anybody else's project on the table. And you got to
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: get all five people. If you want me to finance,
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 2: you got to get me. Then you got to get
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: the marketing person that's going to market. Then you got
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 2: to get the director. You got to get the manager.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: You got to get everybody so they can feel good
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: about pushing your project. I don't want anybody pushing a
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: project that they don't like.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 3: That's very smart. Yeah, so you make it a democracy. Smart.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: So you got all five of us, then now we ready.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? And now I'm going to
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: feel good about somebody coming to me and saying, this
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 2: is going to cost this.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: Because I know they're doing it out of, hey, man,
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: this is what it's going to cost. We're going to
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: figure it out. And I'm like, cool. But even when
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: I do a special, man, it is a lot of.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: You don't want to talk about this part. Like, no,
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: like we should talk about this part. And, and it's
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: been some decisions that have been made. That was, it
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 2: was my call at the end, but it was somebody
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 2: else's idea. Like with domino effect, it would have never
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: been a domino effect two, three or four. If I
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 2: would have stuck with the name that I started with,
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: the name was 1983. so how what it was gonna
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: be 83 86 it's like it's like and I've rugged
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 2: um which won uh what three webby awards rugged was
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: was the original name was I'm not handy and Eric
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: called me was like no we were I've listened to
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: it I watched it so many times I think that
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 2: we should go with this name and he He gave
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 2: me the name, and I sat on it for a day,
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: and then I called him back. I'm like, yeah, you
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: about right.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 3: Well, that's good. That means you got good people.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: And I think that people should put, like right now
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: I'm on the Custom Fit Tour. Well, I'm off until
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: August because I'm going to take six weeks of vacation.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 2: But Custom Fit is not going to be a special.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: It's just the tour that I'm doing now, because the
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: specials that I'm writing are different than what I, I
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: just wanted to take this time to just do some material.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: I didn't want to have a theme, be working on
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 2: the special, but the theme is about people think custom
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 2: fit is about clothes. It's not about clothes. It's about
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 2: tailor making the people around you. I'm saying that can,
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 2: you can be a benefit to, it can be a
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: benefit to you. I'm saying not just having these people around.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: Cause you know, sometimes people have a bunch of people
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: around that, secretly despise them, you know, and secretly despise
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 2: their success. And that's, uh, that's detrimental to anything. Haters. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 3: Sometimes haters will get real close to you. Stay, stay
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 3: next to you. It's a problem. I mean, when you're
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 3: in a position like you're in too, when you're producing
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 3: other people's specials, you're going to get a bunch of
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 3: people to come to you that you don't want to
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 3: do their shit. It's just like owning the club, the
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 3: same issue. The way I bypass that, I, put all
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 3: the power into adam adam eget decides who's there and
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 3: who's not there and how the the club gets scheduled
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 3: and you know who passes and who doesn't and he's
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 3: really good at it you know he's really good at
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 3: it i trust him implicitly so i don't have to
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 3: think about it and i like it so that when
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 3: people say i want to work your club i'm like
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 3: well you got to talk to adam i just perform
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 3: i might be the owner but i just perform there
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 3: i don't i don't think about it in terms of
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 3: like how the scheduling is. I often have to check
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 3: the website to see who's there. I don't know who's there.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 3: It might be mine, but I got a guy who
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 3: does it, and he does it really well. So why
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 3: would I get involved in that? It's easier to not.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 2: When I had a club in Houston, I couldn't be
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 2: funny in the club at all. Why not? Because I
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 2: was actively working the club. So I'm on stage, and
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 2: I'm worried about Oh, I see. So many other things
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 2: going on. Like, yo, did you just drop a glass
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: on the ground? I didn't have enough help.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 3: You got to get the right help. I got very
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 3: fortunate in that a lot of the people that I
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 3: took to Austin, they were from the comedy store, and
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 3: they were out of work. So the comedy store closed
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 3: because of the fucking stupid government of L.A. They wouldn't
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 3: even allow them to do outside shows. You couldn't do
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 3: an outside show in the parking lot of the Comedy Store.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 3: They wouldn't allow it. It's so stupid. They were closed
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 3: for like a good solid year and a half. They
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 3: couldn't support paying all these people. So they had to
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 3: get rid of them. And I moved here. And it's
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 3: the same time. It just by chance. It happened at
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 3: the same time. And so they were all out of work.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 3: And I said, hey, let's get the band back together again.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 2: Do you guys.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 3: Want to move to Austin? So I paid for everybody
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 3: to come out here. And I paid for them. I
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 3: gave them a full salary with everything for like. A
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 3: year and a half or so, maybe even more, maybe
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 3: two years before anybody had to go to work because
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 3: the club wasn't open. So I was like, I want
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 3: to give you a job like so you could settle in,
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 3: get used to Austin. You're going to get paid like
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 3: you get paid, like you're working, but you don't have
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 3: to work. But I love you. I know you. And,
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 3: you know. Come here.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 2: Very admirable. With the store, I just performed at the
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 2: store main room for TDE. They had a thing before
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 2: BET World, so I popped in. And the comedy store
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 2: has a certain politics to it that, you know, I
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 2: like the other one a little more, you know, all
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 2: they serve is popcorn.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 3: The improv?
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 2: No, the other comedy store.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 3: Oh, La Jolla?
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 2: La Jolla is the shit.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 3: That place is the shit. What a club.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 2: They just don't have food.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 2: Popcorn, drinks.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 3: I don't believe in food at comedy clubs either. But
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 3: it's just a different environment. La Jolla is a very nice,
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 3: beautiful place. That club is awesome.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 2: I love performing there. And with the store in L.A.,
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 2: it's like you get there and it's very, it seems very,
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 2: you know, segregated.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 3: This is now to me.
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 2: That's when I, how long ago was this? I just performed, um,
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 2: last week, last Wednesday.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 3: That's, um, that's sad to hear. Cause it wasn't like
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 3: that before.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 2: It seemed like the main room in the room around
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 2: the corner and the belly, all these rooms are different spaces. And,
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 2: That's to me, and it may just be that feel
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 2: because I'm not there a lot, you know. But when
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: I come, before I came that time, but the management
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 2: walked up, was very pleasant.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 3: What do you mean by different spaces? Obviously, they're different rooms.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 3: What do you mean?
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: It seemed like the main room is different from the
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 2: room around the corner.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 3: Well, it is different, but what do you mean by
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 3: feels different?
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 2: It feels a little different.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, just by its design. It's a big showroom.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 3: It's brighter. The ceilings are taller. And then you get
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 3: into the original room, which is just tight and perfect.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 3: The original room is like that's where you find out
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 3: what's real. I've seen a lot of people have rough sets.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 3: They were real confident going into that room. That room
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 3: was a truth serum.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 2: I like a tight room like that.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 3: Well, then there's the belly room. The belly room is
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 3: the ultimate truth serum. Trying out new jokes in the
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 3: belly room is the place. Because it only seats 70 people.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 3: You can't bullshit those people.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 2: That's the creme de la creme to me. It's a tight,
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 2: small room.
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 3: The belly room is spectacular. Such a good room.
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 2: I came from small audiences.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 3: They're the best. It's the best for finding out if
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 3: jokes are real. There's nothing like a small crowd. Like
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 3: in our club, we have the little boy. Our rooms
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 3: are named after the bombs they dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 3: And Little Boy is only 110 seats. It's a super
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 3: low ceiling.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 2: This is when, you know, it's those times in comedy
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 2: when you knew that that's what you actually love to do.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 2: And I remember I was in San Antonio at this
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 2: place called Santa's. He literally owned the whole strip. The club,
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 2: the wash interior, the corner store, everything. The guy named Santa.
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 2: I didn't know that he owned it, but it was
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 2: like a rainstorm or something. The show got rained out.
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 2: And it is literally three people in this room. It's
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 2: two ladies and it's Santa. And I don't, I don't
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 2: know that this is him at the time. And we
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 2: had to go on to get paid. The promoter was like,
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 2: I'm not paying nobody who don't go on. We still
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 2: doing the show. I'm like, okay. So this is a
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 2: hundred dollars. He's getting paid a hundred dollars. And he
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 2: was like, who, who going up? I'm like, I'm definitely
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 2: going up and I'm going up first. Like, I don't,
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 2: I don't care. I did like an hour and 30
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 2: minutes for three people. And I was like, because I
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 2: kept looking. I was like, anybody else going over there?
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 2: He was like, no, we good. I'm like, I and Santa,
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 2: I remember he finally revealed that he was the owner
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 2: of the club. And he was like, well, let me
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: take you to the back. He took me to the back,
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 2: and he gave me like $ 700. He was saying for performing.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 2: He said, yeah, man, you wasn't scared. And me and
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 2: my friends had a good time. And it was like
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 2: three people. It was literally, the dude named Vance put
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 2: the show on. It was like three, Vance tell anybody,
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 2: so it was like, this is when I knew Ali
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 2: was different. When he went out, three people, he went first,
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 2: and he's like, I went 30. And he was like,
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 2: and it didn't look like he was coming down. I'm like, yo, bro,
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 2: I'm here. This is what I do. I don't, and
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 2: I need that $ 100. So, that's definitely some extra motivation.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 3: It's crazy that no one else wanted to go up.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 2: They was like, no. And, another time I was at Wiley, um,
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 2: it was a Wiley college and Marcus was performing and
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 2: the mic went out. And it's like all these people
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 2: in this, in this auditorium, the same place they shot, um,
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 2: Denzel shot the movie, the great debate. So we, and
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 2: we in this auditorium and the sound goes out and
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 2: they start ribbing Marcus. And I, and I was in
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 2: the back. I was like, what's going on? And he's like,
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 2: the sound went out and I walked out. I was like,
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 2: what's happening? And I said, hold on, Marcus, let me,
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 2: let me, let me ask him something. Wait a minute.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 2: I know damn well y'all not in there trying to
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 2: get somebody in a problem because y'all got us in,
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 2: we didn't bring this sound system, got us in fair
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 2: east side high performance, broken clock. And, and so I say, listen, Marcus,
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 2: Marcus sat down in the back. I was like, yo,
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 2: this is what we're going to do. I'm going to talk.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 2: Y'all going to laugh. Then I'm going to talk some more,
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 2: but y'all can't be laughing all along because we don't
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 2: have no sounds. I'm not supposed to use my real
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 2: voice in this. So, I'm at like 45, and I
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 2: look back at Mark, I say, hey, man, you want
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 2: to come back up? Mark was like, no. Like, you
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 2: got it? It's like an hour and 20. He's like, yo,
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 2: Ali's nuts. I'm like, no, this is what I do,
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 2: and I'm going to figure it out.
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 3: We did a show at the Improv once in Hollywood,
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 3: and the power went out, and they were going to
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 3: cancel the show. And we were sitting there talking, and
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 3: I said, why don't, can we light the stage somehow?
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 3: And they said, yeah, we can get an emergency light
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 3: attached to like a generator. And we could put a,
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 3: you know, run the wires through the crowd and put
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 3: an emergency light on the stage. I go, that's that.
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 3: We'll do that. And then we'll just do stand-up with
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 3: no mic. And we did the whole show with no mic.
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 3: It was the opening, middle, and then me. I did
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 3: a full hour. It was amazing. Everybody had a great
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 3: fucking time. It felt special. It felt very unusual. You
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 3: got to see what it's like when you don't have
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 3: a microphone and you're projecting to the back of the room.
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 3: Changed my pacing on things. But it was great. It
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 3: felt cool. It felt like you were doing something and
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 3: the audience was into it. I go, look, we're going
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 3: to have fun, right? Like, fuck it. Who cares? This
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 3: is never going to happen again probably ever. I've been
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 3: doing comedy 30-something years. I've never had that happen where
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 3: I did a show with no microphone except that one.
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 2: So this is the thing. These are the experiences that
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 2: as a comic going through the trenches that some comics
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 2: will never have. Right. Because they didn't come up that way.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 2: And you have a different set of chops when you
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 2: come up a certain type of way. I've come up
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 2: and just joking had to be the craziest place because
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 2: some nights you're coming in and it's like, Nine people.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 2: But these nine people are into comedy. And Alice would
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 2: be like, you got to do the show. We don't
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 2: have a limit. We got to do these people that's here.
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 2: Because the thing is, that whole idea that the show
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 2: must go on regardless too.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 3: Well, I learned that from Paul Mooney too. And one
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 3: of the things that I said, I did a show
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 3: at the comedy store. It's like the first time that
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 3: Mooney ever complimented me. I was always scared of him. Because, like,
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 3: if Mooney didn't like you, it was terrifying. Because he
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 3: was a legend. He was a legend. Wrote for Richard Pryor.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 3: And it was, like, the way he carried himself. Like,
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 3: he didn't like you.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 2: Like, ugh. And I was 27.
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 3: You know, I was young and stupid. And I went
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 3: up because I would always go up last or late.
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 3: I had late spots. And there was, like, 15 people
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 3: in the room. But I did my act. And I
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 3: heard in the back of the room, oh, oh, oh.
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 3: He was laughing, having fun. And then he grabbed me afterwards.
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 3: He goes, you're a real motherfucking comic. He goes, that's
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 3: what a real comic does. He goes, all these other motherfuckers,
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 3: they went up there and they did, oh, where you from? Bitch,
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 3: I know where I'm from. Tell me some fucking jokes.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 3: Do your fucking act. And that's what you did. And
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 3: I was like, wow. Paul Mooney likes me.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 2: Me and Paul had a different type of relationship.
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 3: Did you and Paul not get along?
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 2: One, I have to always say, I loved Paul until
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 2: I met him. it's like Paul was on some bullshit
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 2: when he when I met Paul man I was at
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 2: the improv and I was featuring for him and the
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 2: improv it got me to feature for him and I
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 2: was like cool I'm excited I get to meet one
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 2: of my idols in this game one of the people
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 2: who changed the course of my pacing cause it my
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 2: lineage just sitting down I passed through Paul so it's
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 2: When I first started, I was a crazy man. I
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 2: was all over the place. Thought that you had to
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 2: have all this energy. And then this guy named Dez
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 2: White walked into the club one night. I was there.
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 2: And Dez stood in the same exact place. He never
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 2: took the mic out of the stand, put his drink
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 2: down on the stool, and Dez just stood there. And
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 2: he was destroying this room. Never took the mic out
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 2: of the stand. And he always said, people say, Dez. Dez,
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 2: why you don't take the mic out of the stand?
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 2: And he's like, because there's a stand. Let it hold
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 2: the mic.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 3: Some of my favorite comics don't take the mic out
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 3: of the stand. Ron White.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 3: Ron White just stands there with a drink on a stool,
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 3: sometimes with a cigar, just killing with the microphone in
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 3: the stand.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 2: Oh, man.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 3: Joey Diaz. Joey Diaz keeps the fucking mic in the stand.
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 3: And he makes me laugh harder than any fucking human
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 3: being that's ever lived.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 2: That. So I'm going to finish Paul, then I'm going
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 2: to go to Ron.
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 3: So what did he do, though?
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 2: So I'm in the green room, and at the old Empire,
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 2: where they had a downstairs, you would come through the,
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 2: it used to be a rainforest cafe. Right, right, right. Yeah,
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 2: so it was spellbinders at first, and then it changed.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 2: So I'm sitting in the green room, and it's a
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 2: main part, then it's a smaller part. He walked into
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 2: the small part and said, hey, go count the room.
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 2: And I was like, what? Yeah, go count the room.
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 2: I was like, I don't work here like that. I
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 2: don't count the room. And he was like, yeah, all right.
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 2: Then he walked out. And then he came back like
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 2: maybe 25 minutes later. Yeah, tell you and your little
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 2: white friend that it's packed out there and I want
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 2: my bonus. Like what white friend? What are you talking about?
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 2: Raymond Cook is the manager of the club at the time.
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 2: He was talking about Raymond. And I was like, yo, Paul,
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 2: I don't count the room. I'm the feature. Why would
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 2: I be counting the fucking room? And then he said
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 2: something else negative to me, and I was like, yo, Paul,
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 2: if you say something else to me, I'm going to
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 2: kick your ass, Paul. I'm like, what is wrong with you?
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 2: So I called DL. I'm like, yo, I'm about to
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 2: fucking beat up Paul Mooney. He's like, you can't beat
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 2: up Paul Mooney. He's a legend. I'm like, even if
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 2: you beat him up, you're still not going to win.
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 2: It's like, it's going to be a loss. So I'm like, yo,
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 2: so then another time, oh, and then later on that,
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 2: that same weekend, he had this lady with him and
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 2: she was sitting at the top and I was sitting
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 2: up there and she got up and she left her purse.
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 2: So I didn't want to leave and leave the lady's
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 2: purse there. So I grabbed, I got the purse like this.
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 2: I came in. I'm like, Hey, ma'am, you love your purse.
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 2: And Paul turned around. What are you doing with her purse?
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 2: I said she left it. And then the only thing
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 2: in my head is D.L., you cannot beat up Paul Monette.
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 2: So I just walked out. I'm like, I'm going to
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 2: fuck Paul up.
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 3: What year was this?
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 2: This is like three years before he died. And this
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 2: was the old improv.
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 3: This is what I heard, just for clarity. He was
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 3: struggling in the last years of his life. So you
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 3: probably didn't get the best version of Paul Mooney.
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 2: So then we're here in Austin. We're performing at the
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 2: theater that's right next to the Paramount. It's another theater
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 2: that's connected to the Paramount. The black heritage, the black
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 2: art something, both of us not knowing that we had odds.
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 2: So I'm in my green room, and the lady comes in. Hey,
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 2: she's very nice. Hey, Ali, Paul Mooney's next door. everything
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 2: and you like to meet him and say and i
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 2: was like no i'm cool and then she goes paul
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 2: ali's next door you know i don't know if y'all
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 2: want to meet each other and paul's like no i'm
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 2: cool and i went up i'm in my green room
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 2: and the host is on stage and paul was getting
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 2: ready to go up and this was his apology he
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 2: walked by the room and came back like on um
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 2: Purple Rain came back and leaned in the room and
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 2: was like, hi, Ali. I mean, Paul's fucking nuts, man.
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but you got to take that. You know, there's
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 3: certain people that are just eccentric. That's Paul. I mean,
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't have counted the fucking room either. I would
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 3: have been like, that's not my job.
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 2: Ron White, I was in Orlando. Manager Orlando called me, saying, hey, Ali, um,
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 2: I know you have a feature, but Ron White would
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 2: like to feature for you. And I was like, I
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 2: don't know a person named Ron White. And she was like,
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 2: you don't know Ron White? I'm like, wait a minute. Like,
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 2: Ron White, Ron White? I thought he was like some
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 2: other guy who was using his name or something. Like,
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 2: his name happens to be Ron White. Like, Ron White,
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 2: Ron White? He's like, yeah. Yeah. I said, he want
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 2: a feature for who? He said, you. He called and asked.
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 2: I was like, the fuck? I said, hell yeah. So
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 2: I called Marcus. I'm like, yo, Marcus, you gonna go
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 2: up and then you gonna bring up Ron White.
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 3: When was this?
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 2: This was like maybe four years ago.
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 3: That's crazy.
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 2: And Ron shows up in this huge tour bus. Like,
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 2: I'm walking to the club and I'm like, buses this?
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh shit, it's Ron's bus. It's got
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 2: the tequila brand on it and all that. And he's
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 2: in his bus. He's not even in the green room.
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 2: Then I get a knock on the door and his manager,
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 2: he's like, hey, Ron would like to know, can he
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 2: come in the green room? I was like, Ron might
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 2: come in the green room. So he comes in. He's like, yo, man,
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 2: I just want to, I love what you do. I
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 2: just want to do some time. Ron went up there
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 2: and was destroying this room. And I couldn't wait to
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 2: get up because I wanted to just talk about fucking
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 2: Ron White just featured for me. And I destroyed his
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 2: room with Ron. He sat out and watched. He was like,
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 2: you're fucking amazing. And my mind is I'm still in
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 2: awe that Ron White wanted to fucking feature with me.
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 3: Wanted to work with you.
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 2: I was like, that shit was crazy to me.
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 3: That's so cool. Well, you know, when he's working on
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 3: new stuff, that's what he likes to do. He likes
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 3: to go around and does a lot of sets. He's
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 3: constantly active. He's at the club tonight. We're working tonight.
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 3: He's one of the main reasons I moved here. Ron
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 3: moved here before the pandemic. So I called him up
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 3: in like 2018. I loved having him at the store.
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 3: So he started coming to the store around 2014-ish, something
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 3: like that. And, oh, my God, we had so much
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 3: fun for years and years. And he had a beautiful
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 3: place up in Beverly Hills. And then he just got
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 3: sick because he's always traveling. He just got sick of
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 3: the long flights and the traffic. And I called him up.
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 3: I go, why'd you move to Texas? He goes, Austin's amazing.
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 3: The food's fucking great. Everyone's nice. It's in the middle
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 3: of the country. If I want to fly to Florida,
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 3: it's quick. If I want to fly to, I'm like,
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 3: God damn it. Can I live in Texas? And then
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 3: the shit hit the fan with COVID. And I was like,
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 3: I gotta get the fuck out of California. This place sucks.
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 3: They're telling me what to do. This is not what
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 3: I signed up for. You tell me I can work.
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 3: You tell me I have to wear a mask.
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 2: Fuck you.
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 3: I'm getting out of here. And when I came to Austin,
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 3: it was one of the main reasons why I was
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 3: willing to move here. I'm like, if we never do
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 3: comedy again, At least I can hang out with Ron.
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 2: That's amazing.
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then everybody else came. And then once, I mean,
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 3: so everybody says that I got everybody to move here.
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 3: Sort of. I got a lot of people to move here,
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 3: but Ron got me to move here. That's the most
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 3: important thing. Like, Ron got me to move here. And
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 3: then I realized how nice people are here and how
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 3: disconnected they are from show business. And I was like, oh,
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 3: this is so refreshing. Everyone's just normal. My neighbor's a
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 3: normal guy. Everyone's normal. They're regular people. Just people living
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 3: their lives, having a good time. And for me, because
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 3: I love hunting, everyone hunts out here. It's like a
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 3: normal pastime. I tell people I bow hunt in California.
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 2: Texas, we have been a gem for a long time,
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 2: and we just let other people feel like they're the
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 2: upper echelon. We're like, okay.
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 3: Texas ruled forever. I mean, you've got to think, Kenneson
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 3: and Hicks, two of the greatest of all time, came
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 3: out of Houston.
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 3: And when I was coming here all the time, I
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 3: knew it. Right. So one of the things that was
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 3: good about doing comedy is a lot of people that
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 3: moved during the pandemic just wanted to get out of California.
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 3: But they had no idea what the rest of the
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 3: world was going to be like. They'd never been to Nashville.
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 3: They'd never been to Austin. I'd been here a couple
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 3: dozen times. I knew I loved it. So I was like, look,
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 3: this will be all right. Like, I'll be fine. Like,
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 3: it looks like I'm never doing comedy again. I was like,
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 3: it looks like comedy is done. It looks like they're
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 3: going to fucking make us just stay indoors, especially in, like,
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 3: blue cities.
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 2: Like, this is crazy.
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 3: You have to have a vax card to eat at
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 3: a restaurant in New York City. I'm like, this is
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 3: fucking bananas. None of this shit makes any sense.
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 2: I remember you guys came. Mothership was coming. The next
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 2: thing I know, Creek in the Cave was here.
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 3: Creek in the Cave was here first.
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm saying how I heard about it. I'm like, oh,
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 2: Creek in the Cave. I'm like, damn, okay. Creek in
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 2: the Cave is coming from New York. And... Then Mothership
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 2: is here. But they had rooms. You know, the main
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 2: thing was the room that was so hard to get
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 2: in at first. It was the Austin Comedy Club. Damn,
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 2: I forget the name of it.
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 3: Velveeta Room?
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 2: No, no, it was the actual comedy club.
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 3: Cap City?
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 2: Cap City.
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 2: Cap City.
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 3: That place was always packed.
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 3: I almost bought that place.
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I heard that.
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I almost bought that whole mall. But the guy
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 3: who was trying to sell it to me wanted way
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 3: more than it was worth. And then he got roped
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 3: up in some FBI investigation. I was told while it
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 3: was going on that he was being investigated. And I
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 3: was like, oh, OK. And then he wound up getting arrested.
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 3: But that building was for sale. The whole thing was
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 3: for sale. And I went in there. I thought about
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 3: how many shows I'd been there, how many shows I'd
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 3: seen there, how many shows I'd performed there. I'm like,
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 3: I could own this place?
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. Cap City was the first place that
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 2: I did on the road with DL.
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 3: That was a great club. Fucking great club. Perfect club.
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 3: That place was amazing. Such a fun place to work.
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 2: I think that people didn't realize how the rich history
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 2: of Houston, Dallas, Austin.
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 3: Laugh Stop.
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 2: San Antonio.
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 3: Bro, Laugh Stop in Houston, in River Oaks, one of
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 3: the greatest clubs of all time. Somebody told me that
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 3: that building still exists like that, that it's still set
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 3: up like that, that there's nothing in it.
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 2: Is that true? There's nothing in it, no.
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 3: But it's still the same room? Yep. Man, we might
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 3: have to do a Mothership Houston.
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That's, yeah.
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 3: See, if there's another city that could support like a
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 3: large group of talented up-and-comers. Houston's one of them.
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so, you know, we have Seeker Group there.
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 3: They had the other Cap City that was upstairs. Remember
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 3: they opened up the second one? They closed that one
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 3: and they opened up another one.
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 2: You're talking about the Cap City? Oh, no, I'm sorry.
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 3: Laugh Stop.
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 2: That was the Laugh Spot. Oh, no, no, no.
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 3: They had that already. That already existed.
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 2: No, the Laugh Spot had went upstairs on Wall. They
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 2: had moved.
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 3: I thought that was the Laugh Stop. I thought it
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 3: was the same group that... No, it was the same
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 3: group that owned the Laugh Stop in River Oaks. The
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 3: Laugh Spot was another place. I knew that because when
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 3: I was working at the Laugh Stop, Ralphie May was
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 3: working at the Laugh Spot. And we got together and
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 3: we're hanging out and eat dinner. But that was.
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 3: That was the old spot. Then there was the other
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 3: laugh stop that they put upstairs. It was a new,
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 3: but it didn't last. It was only for a couple years.
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't go to that.
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 3: It was a good spot.
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 3: Then it went under.
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Ari Shaffir did it with a Hitler mustache once.
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 3: He trimmed his mustache to look like Adolf Hitler.
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 2: Ari is, Ari is. is by far the craziest person
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 2: that I know. Like, I thought my Uncle Mac was
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 2: the craziest person, and then I met Ari. I'm like,
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 2: this is the craziest person that I know.
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's awesome.
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 3: He just moved to England. I'm like, bro, they're going
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 3: to stab you.
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 2: He moved to England.
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 3: They will fucking stab you. They stab people there. Don't
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 3: get stabbed.
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 2: Ari is nuts, but he's such a cool dude. But
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 2: he's fucking nuts. I went to go see him at
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 2: the Creek in the Cave when he was getting ready
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 2: to film his special. And I like, yo, Ari is
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 2: so crazy. If you just... If people... It took time.
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 2: Just go through the many looks of Ari Shaffir on
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 2: the internet. The one that killed me was the half.
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 2: He was just bald on one side. I was like, yo,
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 2: is he doing Two-Face? He is insane.
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 3: He did Two-Face for Batman. Yeah, he's out of his mind.
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 3: But that's really who he is. He's not trying.
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not trying.
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 3: That's what he is. He's out of his mind.
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 2: He's a fucking maniac.
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 3: Complete maniac.
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 2: When he tore up Bert, when I heard about him
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 2: tearing up Bert's check, it was like $ 25, 000. He's like, yo,
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 2: I just made $ 25, 000. He just tore the check up.
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 2: He's like, they'll write you another one. I'm like, are
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 2: you insane? He's the greatest person.
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 3: He's fun.
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 2: I've had some great conversations on the phone with him,
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 2: and he's just.
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 3: And I was very fucking smart, dude. I was very.
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 2: Smart when he called me to do the, um, his last,
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 2: the endless, you know, I was like, that's cool. Cause that,
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 2: that's where I, that's a pivoting point, a major point
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 2: in my career when I did, um, this is not happening.
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 3: That was a great show, man. It was a great idea.
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 3: I remember when he started doing it, he started doing
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 3: it at the lab at the improv. So you remember
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 3: the lab?
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 3: Another little room.
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 2: Cool, pretty room.
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 3: Cool little room. Um, they should have never got rid
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 3: of that room. They, they changed that place and they
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 3: fucked it up. In my opinion, that's the room, the,
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 3: the main room still awesome, but the lab used to
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 3: be in the back and it was like, there wasn't
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 3: a big bar there.
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 2: I think it's still there. It's different now. Yeah. Dion Cole.
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 2: I went last time I was there, Dion Cole.
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's different. It's not, it's not the same setup.
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 3: It used to be, you went through a door and
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 3: it was like another small room. And in that small room,
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 3: it was separated from the front door. They moved the
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 3: front door, and now everybody went in through the parking lot, right?
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 3: And so they went into the lab through the parking lot.
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 3: So the front door was back there now. And when
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 3: you would open it, it was all this noise from
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 3: the street. And they had a curtain to block off
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 3: the noise. And you'd hear people talk. They were like
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 3: right next to your stage where they were buying tickets.
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 3: It was annoying. And then there was the bar, which
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 3: was right there. It's still a cool little small room
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 3: once everybody settles in. But the original setup was way better.
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 3: And Ari started doing it there. And I was like,
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 3: what are you doing? And he's like, I'm going to
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 3: do a storyteller show. I was like, what the fuck
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 3: is that? That's what I thought. I was like, why
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 3: are you doing that? And then he said, well, it
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 3: really helps you without like having to have like punchlines
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 3: and setups and have everything really tight. You could find
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 3: the beats in a story. And I was like, oh, well, actually,
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 3: that's brilliant. That's pretty fucking smart. It's a good alternative
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 3: sort of way to develop bits. You develop bits by
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 3: working it out, but in a more loose format of
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 3: telling a story.
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 2: And I didn't even know that that was the premise
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 2: behind it, because when I got it, it was like,
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 2: you go on and you tell a true story. And
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 2: I was like, okay, cool, that's my thing. And I
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 2: had just won Comedy Central's Comic to Watch in 2013.
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 2: So you get a package, you get an album, you
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 2: get a half hour, and you get a chance to
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 2: go on one of the shows that's already on Comedy Central.
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 2: So they was pitching me the Adam Devine show, and
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 2: I was like, hmm, I don't like it. And it
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 2: was another show. I was like, nah, I'm cool. So
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 2: every show that they would say that they wanted me
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 2: to go on, I was like, nah, that really ain't
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 2: my thing. So then Chase DeRusso, young comic called me
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 2: and said, hey, listen, you might want to go on
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 2: This Is Not Happening. I was like, what's that? He said,
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 2: it's a show, start on the internet. You know, you...
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 2: I went on it, I watched both, I think both
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 2: seasons of it on the internet. And I was like, yo,
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 2: this is the one. So I called Anne Harris, that comic,
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 2: I was like, this is a show that I want
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 2: to do. And Ari didn't know me. Ari's like... I
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 2: don't know him, but Eric Abrams is one of the
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 2: co-creators of the show. He's like, I know him, so
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 2: he's pretty good. You should bring him on. And Ari
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 2: was telling everybody, he's like, I didn't know what he
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 2: was going to do. But all I know, it was
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 2: a true, all you had to do was tell a
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 2: true story. And I was like, perfect. Eric thought that
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 2: I was going to do the story that I did
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 2: on the second time that I was on. And I'm like,
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 2: when I got there, I was listening to people's stories.
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 2: And I was like, nah, I'm going to do a
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 2: lighter story. Because the second story is Mitchell. It's like
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 2: when I was going to kill his CO. And I
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 2: was like, nah, I should do a lighter one. And
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 2: then I did the prison ride, which is affectionately known
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 2: as Mexican Got On Boots. And Ari's like, best fucking
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 2: story I ever heard. Me telling the story about a riot,
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 2: a prison riot. And I was telling what happened. And
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 2: I only did like 16 minutes of what happened. That
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 2: was a whole, that was a whole ordeal. Like it
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 2: wasn't a 16 minute riot. It was like nine hours.
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 2: Like the whole thing is like nine hours. I only
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 2: told the beginning part of it, which was, you know,
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 2: pretty cool.
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 3: You know what happened? I already lost the show, right?
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. And so that, so when the show came back,
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 2: it was with Roy Woods, they called me to do it.
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 2: And the loyal spirit in me, I called Ari first.
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 2: I was like, Hey, they want me to do this show.
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 2: I'm really not fucking with it. And he's like, no, no,
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 2: do it. I was like, what? He's like, I heard
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 2: about all the stuff. He's like, man, do it. Eric,
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 2: Eric is still shooting it. He was saying, so you
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 2: should do it because we wanted you to be the host,
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 2: but they didn't, they didn't want you to do it.
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 2: You know, they, Got Roy, which is cool.
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 3: I don't think they wanted anybody affiliated with Ari to
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 3: do it. They were punishing Ari.
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 2: So when they asked me.
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 3: We should tell people why. So for people that don't know,
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 3: Ari got a deal. He got an offer to do
• 2:04:52
  Speaker 3: a Netflix special, and he wanted to do it. And
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 3: they wanted him to do the special on Comedy Central.
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 3: And he said, well, I don't have to. It's not
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 3: in my contract. They said, well, if you don't do it,
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 3: we're going to cancel your show. And he was like, wow.
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 3: I can't believe you would do that.
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 2: And that ain't what you did to Ari.
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 4: Nope.
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 2: Nope.
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 3: So we were trying to figure it out. I offered
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 3: to host it for free. I said, I will come
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 3: in and host it. I'd already done it. So I'll
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 3: come in and I'll host it for no money. I
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 3: go because he wanted to make sure that everybody was paid.
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 3: He was going to take out a loan and Ari
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 3: was going to pay all the grips, all the camera people.
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 3: Because they, you know, these people, they chart out their year.
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 3: They're like, oh, I'm doing this is not happening for
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 3: the next six weeks. And then I'm doing this for
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 3: five weeks. And that's their year. And that's how they
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 3: budget their life. And Ari decided that he was going
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 3: to take out a loan to pay everybody. And I'm like, wow.
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 3: I go, listen, man. I go, tell Comedy Central that
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 3: I'll host it for free. They weren't interested. They weren't
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 3: interested in anybody affiliated with him. He offered up a
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 3: bunch of other comics. They weren't interested.
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 2: So I was in that group of the bunch because
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 2: I know it was you. It was Joey, me, Bert.
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 2: And they just got me to. do it. Once Ari
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 2: told me it was cool, he was like, man, do it.
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Ari would never try to stop anybody from working.
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 2: So what I went on and did in my protest
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 2: of you didn't want Ari, so what I did was
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 2: told a story about Ari. I just told her, like, okay, cool.
• 2:06:27
  Speaker 2: My story is Mushroom's story, which is And Ari, I
• 2:06:35
  Speaker 2: was like, second season I did this show, Ari gave
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 2: me mushrooms. And I went through the whole thing of
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 2: what happened when Ari gave me the mushrooms. I ate
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 2: the mushrooms. I didn't know that they were mushrooms, mushrooms.
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 2: I thought they were something else. And it was like,
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 2: I ate an eighth of mushrooms. And it was a
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 2: long day.
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 3: What a rude thing to not tell you to not
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 3: eat all of them.
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 2: And... I remember Janice. Janice was my assistant, and I
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 2: remember I had to fly the next day, and I'm
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 2: still gone. I'm out of my shit. So I get
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 2: to the airport, and I call Janice. I said, Janice,
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 2: people are going through this machine, and then I'm not
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 2: seeing them anymore. And it's like, he's nuts. He's gone, like.
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 2: And Janet said, they probably going to various places. And
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 2: I was like, but I don't want to go to various.
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 2: I want to go to Houston. So then when I
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 2: get up to the TSA and I said, hey, I'm
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 2: seeing a lot of people go through this machine and
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 2: then I'm not seeing them anymore. Where are they going?
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 2: The man said, man, various places. And I got out
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 2: the line. I called jan i said you are right
• 2:07:56
  Speaker 2: they are going to various that's like he's nuts like
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 2: he's losing it i'm like yo i was so toasted
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 2: and just getting on the plane with still full of
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 2: mushrooms it was i just i wanted to just close
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 2: my eyes but the shit just wasn't working it was
• 2:08:12
  Speaker 2: like i was out of it i never it's mushrooms
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 2: the crazy thing It's a crazy thing. And that same week,
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 2: because I was there for a couple of days, Joy
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 2: Diaz gave me a black star. And I remember calling
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 2: somebody and he was like, yo, don't you eat that shit.
• 2:08:35
  Speaker 2: He said, if you want to lose it, don't you.
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 2: This is an episode of I'm on Joy Diaz. This
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 2: is back when I was smoking. I took an edible
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 2: with the blind Jew and me and him It's like
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 2: you literally see us. I was fine at first. And
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 2: then you, Joy is the only person that's in this
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 2: studio that's still together. And you just slowly see us
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 2: just melting. We both did. And then I know I
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 2: was speaking very good English at one point. Then I
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 2: was like, yeah. Joy was like, no. I understand. I
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 2: don't understand.
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 3: The Church of What's Happening Now had some of the
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 3: greatest overdose on weed moments ever in the history of
• 2:09:20
  Speaker 3: the internet.
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 2: Just Lee.
• 2:09:22
  Speaker 3: Just seeing Lee Syatt just melting.
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 2: He can't keep his eyes open.
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 3: He's just melting in his chair.
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 2: At first, I was like, yo, he's tripping. Then all
• 2:09:32
  Speaker 2: of a sudden, I'm like, this is not happening to me.
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 2: It was crazy.
• 2:09:36
  Speaker 3: Joey Diaz doesn't give a fuck.
• 2:09:38
  Speaker 2: He goes, I want to see the devil. The other
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 2: side of that story is another comic with me named
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 2: Billy Sorrells. He had taken some edibles, but he ain't
• 2:09:48
  Speaker 2: on the show, so he's outside. He didn't just melt
• 2:09:51
  Speaker 2: it outside. Like, he's just sitting on the ground outside
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 2: the studio like, yo.
• 2:09:57
  Speaker 3: Those black stars are 500 milligrams.
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 2: Yo. That was, yeah.
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 3: I saw Joey eat two of those once. He just
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 3: chucked down two of them. I'm like, that is so crazy.
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 3: That's so much. You know, Jamie doesn't feel it. Edibles
• 2:10:16
  Speaker 3: don't work on him. Jamie's got some weird fucking biological condition.
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 4: Throw it at me.
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 2: I'll try it. Yeah.
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 3: I'm not afraid. He doesn't give a fuck. He's not
• 2:10:26
  Speaker 3: scared of edibles at all.
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 2: I've done two different types of mushrooms. I didn't know
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 2: that there were. It's like the ones where I was
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 2: really on one. That's the one that Ari gave me.
• 2:10:35
  Speaker 2: And then there's some other ones that made me very talkative.
• 2:10:39
  Speaker 4: Like, Go get Lee.
• 2:10:52
  Speaker 2: Drool on his shirt.
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 3: Bro, he's in another dimension right now. He can't keep
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 3: the headphones on. He doesn't know what to do. Joey's
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 3: the best. They're back. They're doing it again.
• 2:11:05
  Speaker 2: They're back?
• 2:11:05
  Speaker 3: They're back together again.
• 2:11:06
  Speaker 2: Oh, man.
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 3: Are they doing it out of New Jersey? Is that
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 3: what they're doing? It has to be.
• 2:11:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 3: He's the best.
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 2: I remember I called Moses Malone for Joey because he's
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 2: a big Moses Malone fan. Before Moses died, I called him.
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 2: He's like, you know Moses Malone? There's no fucking way
• 2:11:24
  Speaker 2: you know Moses Malone. I'm like, yeah, I know fucking Moses.
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 2: Moses was nuts too. Moses Malone was a fucking nut.
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 3: Have you heard about these new mushrooms that make you
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 3: see little tiny people?
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, no. No, I haven't. The targeted ones were Like,
• 2:11:40
  Speaker 2: I called a lot of people on my phone, and
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 2: everybody's same report was, you know, you call me, like,
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 2: 3 in the morning, tell me you want to talk
• 2:11:48
  Speaker 2: to me about my life.
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 3: Which ones are those? What did you take? It's not psilocybin?
• 2:11:55
  Speaker 3: It's something different?
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's something different. It made me very talkative. D-Lay,
• 2:12:00
  Speaker 2: I told D-Lay about him.
• 2:12:02
  Speaker 3: I don't know what that would be.
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 2: His comic name, D-Lay, I told him about him because
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 2: I called him, and I talked to him for, like, hours.
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 2: Just about. So then he ended up taking the same mushrooms.
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 2: He called me, and I knew what it was. I
• 2:12:15
  Speaker 2: was like, go ahead. Just talk. He was talking his
• 2:12:21
  Speaker 2: ass off. I had put the phone down and went
• 2:12:22
  Speaker 2: to sleep. I woke up. He was still talking. I
• 2:12:25
  Speaker 2: was like, yo, this shit is crazy.
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 3: What is it?
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 2: Man, I got to.
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 3: Jamie, put that into perplexity.
• 2:12:31
  Speaker 2: I got to call.
• 2:12:32
  Speaker 3: Put that into our AI sponsor and find out what
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 3: mushrooms make you talkative.
• 2:12:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know who gave them to me, so I
• 2:12:38
  Speaker 2: call her and ask, hey, what was them shrooms that
• 2:12:40
  Speaker 2: you gave me? Because she went and bought them, and
• 2:12:43
  Speaker 2: I was a fucking talkative mess.
• 2:12:45
  Speaker 3: I don't know what that is. I've never heard of
• 2:12:47
  Speaker 3: that before. Most of the time when people take shrooms,
• 2:12:49
  Speaker 3: they can't talk. It's like, ugh.
• 2:12:51
  Speaker 2: No, I was on one. That's crazy. I wonder what
• 2:12:55
  Speaker 2: that is. Because the ones that Ari gave me.
• 2:12:57
  Speaker 4: It's just the smashed mushrooms, just in general. Huh. Some
• 2:12:59
  Speaker 4: people's response to it.
• 2:13:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it seems that there's different responses to different ones.
• 2:13:04
  Speaker 4: I know what I'm saying. On the screen, it says
• 2:13:06
  Speaker 4: what I just said.
• 2:13:06
  Speaker 3: Huh. I don't think there's enough research for perplexity to
• 2:13:09
  Speaker 3: have an educated answer.
• 2:13:11
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 2:13:11
  Speaker 3: How much research are they doing out there? Talkative social
• 2:13:15
  Speaker 3: on magic mushrooms, but there's no specific mushroom reliably proven
• 2:13:19
  Speaker 3: to make you talkative.
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 3: Ask if there's a mushroom that makes you see little people.
• 2:13:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's different.
• 2:13:26
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 2:13:26
  Speaker 3: I know, but I want to see what perplexity has
• 2:13:28
  Speaker 3: to say about it. What does perplexity say? Ask it about,
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 3: is there a mushroom that makes you see little people?
• 2:13:36
  Speaker 3: Let's see if it really is up on its psychedelic science.
• 2:13:42
  Speaker 3: I want to see what it says, though. It's just
• 2:13:46
  Speaker 3: a question to see how it handles this.
• 2:13:50
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 2:13:51
  Speaker 3: A specific edible mushroom called lanmoa. Asiatica has been reported
• 2:13:59
  Speaker 3: to cause very vivid hallucinations. You say hallucinations. Maybe they're
• 2:14:03
  Speaker 3: really little people right there. Of little people when it's undercooked,
• 2:14:07
  Speaker 3: a phenomenon known as Lilliputian hallucinations. So the thing is,
• 2:14:11
  Speaker 3: how do you know it's a hallucination? Maybe you're just
• 2:14:15
  Speaker 3: now can see these things that people have been writing
• 2:14:18
  Speaker 3: about for eons. How ignorant are people and how arrogant
• 2:14:22
  Speaker 3: are we? That we know everything that's going on all
• 2:14:25
  Speaker 3: around us all the time.
• 2:14:26
  Speaker 2: We don't.
• 2:14:27
  Speaker 3: People have always thought gremlins were real and gnomes were real.
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 3: And fairies.
• 2:14:32
  Speaker 4: Studying that since the 60s.
• 2:14:34
  Speaker 3: Of course they have been. I'm studying it right now.
• 2:14:37
  Speaker 3: Let's study. Let's go study mushrooms.
• 2:14:40
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 2:14:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they've been studying it, but the real problem is
• 2:14:45
  Speaker 3: there's got to be a bunch of... I know for
• 2:14:47
  Speaker 3: sure there's other strains that are much more potent because
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 3: I know a guy who's a mushroom guy. He's like,
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 3: deep in the world of mushrooms. And he was explaining
• 2:14:55
  Speaker 3: to me, you know, there's one that's like 10X stronger,
• 2:14:58
  Speaker 3: and there's new ones that they found. I think they
• 2:15:00
  Speaker 3: found a new one, I want to say in China,
• 2:15:03
  Speaker 3: they found a new hallucinogenic mushroom. But this one, this
• 2:15:06
  Speaker 3: Lilliputian one is weird because it's not psilocybin.
• 2:15:09
  Speaker 4: So it's cooked. This has something to do with cooking it.
• 2:15:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 2:15:12
  Speaker 4: Once you know it, you're supposed to eat them raw.
• 2:15:14
  Speaker 3: No, it's... that I think this might be the Chinese
• 2:15:17
  Speaker 3: one because I think it's a, is it?
• 2:15:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:15:19
  Speaker 3: Okay. So this is, I conflated the two. So they
• 2:15:23
  Speaker 3: eat it. If you cook it and you do a
• 2:15:25
  Speaker 3: real good job cooking it, you don't trip. But apparently
• 2:15:28
  Speaker 3: some people have not cooked it and eaten it and go, Oh,
• 2:15:31
  Speaker 3: wait a minute. What are we cooking out of this?
• 2:15:33
  Speaker 3: When you're, you might be cooking out whatever the mushroom
• 2:15:36
  Speaker 3: is giving you to let you see the spirit world
• 2:15:38
  Speaker 3: or see the fairy world or the gnome world or,
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 3: Whatever it is.
• 2:15:42
  Speaker 4: You can get it in restaurants.
• 2:15:44
  Speaker 3: Let's go. I'd be like, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
• 2:15:46
  Speaker 2: Undercook my....
• 2:15:49
  Speaker 3: Just put it on some salad dressing. Set that shit out.
• 2:15:52
  Speaker 3: Let's go.
• 2:15:52
  Speaker 2: I don't have... Unfortunately, I don't have a problem with mushrooms.
• 2:15:57
  Speaker 2: I think that... Unfortunately?
• 2:15:59
  Speaker 3: What do you mean?
• 2:16:00
  Speaker 2: Because, you know, some people are like, you shouldn't be
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 2: on there. But I don't have a problem with mushrooms,
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 2: especially if I'm in a safe environment. But Being at
• 2:16:12
  Speaker 2: the Lowe's on mushrooms, that's not the best place to be.
• 2:16:18
  Speaker 3: Also, trying to fight it. If you fight it, you're fucked.
• 2:16:22
  Speaker 3: If you start going and you start, no, I don't
• 2:16:24
  Speaker 3: like this. Like, uh-oh, it's going to get dark on you.
• 2:16:28
  Speaker 2: Trying to wrestle with it. I've had them in chocolate,
• 2:16:31
  Speaker 2: like little chocolate squares, and it's been a time. It's
• 2:16:37
  Speaker 2: been a time.
• 2:16:38
  Speaker 3: Sometimes it can get rough.
• 2:16:39
  Speaker 2: To see little people... I definitely want to be somewhere
• 2:16:43
  Speaker 2: where I just need to be somewhere safe.
• 2:16:48
  Speaker 3: Brian Simpson has a hilarious story about someone gave him
• 2:16:50
  Speaker 3: a mushroom chocolate bar and he put it in his
• 2:16:53
  Speaker 3: freezer and forgot. Forgot that it was a mushroom bar
• 2:16:56
  Speaker 3: and then just ate the whole thing and just went
• 2:16:59
  Speaker 3: to Pluto. He's like Dr. Manhattan sitting on Mars in
• 2:17:07
  Speaker 3: a fucking lotus position.
• 2:17:09
  Speaker 4: This one's kind of strange. It says it doesn't matter
• 2:17:11
  Speaker 4: who you are or what you do, you're going to
• 2:17:14
  Speaker 4: have the same experience as everybody else who's done it. Okay.
• 2:17:17
  Speaker 3: At that point in time, when do we start to
• 2:17:20
  Speaker 3: say maybe there's something in this substance, this compound, this
• 2:17:24
  Speaker 3: molecule that lets you interact with something that's real, that's
• 2:17:27
  Speaker 3: around you? If it's repeatable over and over and over again,
• 2:17:30
  Speaker 3: if all these people see the same thing over and
• 2:17:32
  Speaker 3: over and over again, and people have been writing about
• 2:17:35
  Speaker 3: it since the beginning of time, they've been writing about
• 2:17:37
  Speaker 3: elves and fairies and gnomes and magic people in the woods.
• 2:17:41
  Speaker 3: What do you think they were doing? They were probably
• 2:17:42
  Speaker 3: eating these fucking mushrooms.
• 2:17:44
  Speaker 2: So, it's this show that I watch that I still
• 2:17:48
  Speaker 2: don't know what this show is about. But I've watched,
• 2:17:52
  Speaker 2: I'm on season number four. And I have no idea
• 2:17:57
  Speaker 2: what it's called from.
• 2:17:58
  Speaker 3: Ah, I've been watching it. I love that show. I'm
• 2:18:01
  Speaker 3: in the middle of season four right now.
• 2:18:03
  Speaker 2: And so, you know, he's taking Mushroom.
• 2:18:04
  Speaker 3: The one guy did. Spoiler alert.
• 2:18:07
  Speaker 2: No, but you know.
• 2:18:08
  Speaker 3: But you know already. Big spoiler. I know, but the
• 2:18:10
  Speaker 3: people that are listening don't know. It's still going to
• 2:18:13
  Speaker 3: be fantastic. Don't fuck this up. It's good.
• 2:18:15
  Speaker 2: No, it's on MG. No, they're moving it.
• 2:18:17
  Speaker 3: Oh, they're moving it?
• 2:18:18
  Speaker 4: Oh, shit. One of these new shows that's been talked
• 2:18:19
  Speaker 4: about is getting moved.
• 2:18:20
  Speaker 2: No, no, no.
• 2:18:21
  Speaker 3: That's still on Paramount. I think it's MGM. I think
• 2:18:26
  Speaker 3: it says MGM. Great fucking show. Very original. From is
• 2:18:33
  Speaker 3: officially on Netflix.
• 2:18:34
  Speaker 2: There it is. Oh, damn.
• 2:18:35
  Speaker 3: Oh, wait a minute. Hold on. Maybe it's on Netflix
• 2:18:39
  Speaker 3: as well.
• 2:18:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all I was saying.
• 2:18:41
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's what it is. It debuted on Epix.
• 2:18:45
  Speaker 2: But you watched all these seasons. Good show. But you
• 2:18:49
  Speaker 2: have no idea what... There's no rules. And so I
• 2:18:55
  Speaker 2: called my director. I said, hey, I want to make
• 2:18:58
  Speaker 2: a show that is about whatever we're doing. And he's like, well,
• 2:19:05
  Speaker 2: give me an example. And I say, watch From. Like,
• 2:19:08
  Speaker 2: I've watched all. I cannot tell you what this show
• 2:19:13
  Speaker 2: is about. It's like, I just know that this shit
• 2:19:17
  Speaker 2: is good.
• 2:19:17
  Speaker 3: For people that don't know, that want to watch it,
• 2:19:19
  Speaker 3: it's people trapped in this town. They all have the
• 2:19:22
  Speaker 3: same circumstance. There's a downed tree in the road. They
• 2:19:25
  Speaker 3: can't go further. So they turn around, and they find
• 2:19:29
  Speaker 3: themselves in a loop that keeps leading them through this town.
• 2:19:31
  Speaker 2: To the same town.
• 2:19:32
  Speaker 3: Over and over and over and over again. And no
• 2:19:33
  Speaker 3: one in the town can escape. And at nighttime, monsters
• 2:19:36
  Speaker 3: come out. And they look like people. They look like
• 2:19:38
  Speaker 3: a mailman. They look very normal.
• 2:19:41
  Speaker 2: That scary-ass milkman. That milkman is insane.
• 2:19:46
  Speaker 3: That old lady that knocks on the window.
• 2:19:49
  Speaker 2: Terrifying.
• 2:19:50
  Speaker 3: Terrifying show it's it gives me anxiety and i know
• 2:19:53
  Speaker 3: it's all fake.
• 2:19:54
  Speaker 2: It's it's like it's a crazy show yeah and season
• 2:20:01
  Speaker 2: four is even more bizarre yeah like everything that i'd
• 2:20:05
  Speaker 2: be thinking i was like yo i think this is
• 2:20:08
  Speaker 2: what it is and then it don't it doesn't be
• 2:20:11
  Speaker 2: that but then it come and i'm like see and
• 2:20:14
  Speaker 2: like but i'm like see what like what am i
• 2:20:16
  Speaker 2: like i don't know the Freak, this show is going.
• 2:20:19
  Speaker 3: They don't know. No one knows where it's going. But
• 2:20:21
  Speaker 3: it's like Lost. The same people that made Lost made
• 2:20:24
  Speaker 3: that show.
• 2:20:25
  Speaker 2: Word? Yeah.
• 2:20:25
  Speaker 3: That's why. It has that same sort of feel. Like crazy.
• 2:20:29
  Speaker 3: You can't predict what's going to happen. You cannot predict.
• 2:20:32
  Speaker 3: Nothing makes sense. Very entertaining.
• 2:20:35
  Speaker 2: Lloyd tickles this shit out of me. Lloyd is mad
• 2:20:37
  Speaker 2: about every guy. But it's a crazy show. It's crazy,
• 2:20:44
  Speaker 2: but it's very interesting. Like, I don't miss it.
• 2:20:46
  Speaker 3: I love it. Yeah, I've been binging it. So I started,
• 2:20:51
  Speaker 3: I guess me and my wife started about a month
• 2:20:55
  Speaker 3: ago or so, and we burned through the first three seasons,
• 2:20:59
  Speaker 3: and now we're into the fourth.
• 2:21:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:21:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's good. And I think the next season's coming
• 2:21:04
  Speaker 3: out in 2027. But I think the next season's the
• 2:21:07
  Speaker 3: last season, unless they decide to keep it going. Finale.
• 2:21:10
  Speaker 2: Finale.
• 2:21:11
  Speaker 3: It's the finale?
• 2:21:12
  Speaker 4: They just announced that it's going to be the last season.
• 2:21:15
  Speaker 3: Maybe when that money comes rolling in. But the thing
• 2:21:18
  Speaker 3: about this kind of show is you can do whatever
• 2:21:20
  Speaker 3: you want. You can go back in time. You can
• 2:21:22
  Speaker 3: do wild shit. I don't want to give anything away,
• 2:21:24
  Speaker 3: but there's no rules. You can make anything happen.
• 2:21:29
  Speaker 2: You can make anything happen.
• 2:21:30
  Speaker 3: It's a very strange show, but it's very entertaining.
• 2:21:33
  Speaker 2: Oh, man.
• 2:21:34
  Speaker 3: It's a very entertaining show. But if you want to
• 2:21:37
  Speaker 3: just sit at home and watch shit and not do anything... Man,
• 2:21:41
  Speaker 3: you never picked a better time to be alive. You
• 2:21:45
  Speaker 3: could waste your whole life just staring at a screen.
• 2:21:49
  Speaker 2: When I ask people, because my palate for what I
• 2:21:52
  Speaker 2: take in is different than a lot of people. And
• 2:21:57
  Speaker 2: I turn people on to a show. When I turned
• 2:21:59
  Speaker 2: my boy on to Pinky Blinders, I was like, yo.
• 2:22:01
  Speaker 2: Pinky Blinders is a great show. I was like, yo,
• 2:22:03
  Speaker 2: you got to watch Pinky Blinders. He called me and
• 2:22:05
  Speaker 2: was like, yo, this is a great show. And I
• 2:22:08
  Speaker 2: remember my boy D-Lake got so invested. And what was
• 2:22:12
  Speaker 2: the first show? The motorcycle show that I turned him
• 2:22:14
  Speaker 2: on to.
• 2:22:15
  Speaker 3: I know what you're talking about. I never watched it.
• 2:22:20
  Speaker 3: What is that show? That motorcycle show that everybody liked?
• 2:22:22
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm talking about, Channing?
• 2:22:24
  Speaker 2: Sons of Anarchy. That's it. Sons of Anarchy. I turned
• 2:22:26
  Speaker 2: him on to Sons of Anarchy. And it's a person
• 2:22:29
  Speaker 2: on there that you kind of get invested in. And
• 2:22:32
  Speaker 2: I remember he called me and said something about him.
• 2:22:35
  Speaker 2: And I was like, yo, who? Like who?
• 2:22:38
  Speaker 3: What?
• 2:22:38
  Speaker 2: What'd you say? and I'm putting on my shoes, and
• 2:22:41
  Speaker 2: then I notice, are you talking about the person on
• 2:22:44
  Speaker 2: Sons of Anarchy? He said, yeah, that's fucked up what
• 2:22:47
  Speaker 2: they did. I was like, yo, you a crazy man.
• 2:22:52
  Speaker 2: He's like, no, I'm so invested. I was like, yo, man,
• 2:22:57
  Speaker 2: you a wild person. But, you know, Sons of Anarchy,
• 2:23:01
  Speaker 2: Pinky Blinders, like, I was big on Yellowstone, and now
• 2:23:06
  Speaker 2: the two spin-offs of Yellowstone, Marshalls, And the Dutton Ranch,
• 2:23:11
  Speaker 2: I can't not watch it. Like, it's some good shows
• 2:23:16
  Speaker 2: out there. And I just can't watch the typical stuff.
• 2:23:21
  Speaker 2: I got to watch something that has a little more
• 2:23:24
  Speaker 2: to it than what normal people would watch. Because I
• 2:23:30
  Speaker 2: like to see normal people in shows, like something I
• 2:23:33
  Speaker 2: can relate to. The Dutton Ranch, you know, being Texas,
• 2:23:38
  Speaker 2: this is, I don't, How ranching is, this is how
• 2:23:42
  Speaker 2: I always experience how ranching goes with cows and how
• 2:23:47
  Speaker 2: you keep your land and all these different fights that
• 2:23:50
  Speaker 2: people have over land. I'm like, shit is pretty interesting.
• 2:23:54
  Speaker 3: It's very interesting. Taylor Sheridan's a friend of mine. The
• 2:23:58
  Speaker 3: guy made that. He was on here the other day
• 2:24:02
  Speaker 3: talking about it. But the other show that I love
• 2:24:04
  Speaker 3: is Landman. Same kind of deal. Mm-hmm. It's all about
• 2:24:07
  Speaker 3: the oil industry. You just realize, like, oh, Jesus, is
• 2:24:10
  Speaker 3: this how all this works?
• 2:24:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's other things happening in life, and it's way
• 2:24:15
  Speaker 2: more notorious people than a drug dealing show. This is, man,
• 2:24:21
  Speaker 2: crude oil is a business.
• 2:24:24
  Speaker 3: So it's such a big business, of course you're going
• 2:24:26
  Speaker 3: to get devious shit going on.
• 2:24:28
  Speaker 2: You're going to get shit happening. Has to. Yeah.
• 2:24:31
  Speaker 3: The real world of oil must be nuts. It must
• 2:24:34
  Speaker 3: be nuts. I mean, that's why we're in war right now.
• 2:24:36
  Speaker 2: And you have to be ruthless, you know, with oil. Like,
• 2:24:41
  Speaker 2: that's a big thing. And I don't understand fake meat. Like,
• 2:24:45
  Speaker 2: why would people be giving somebody fake meat?
• 2:24:48
  Speaker 3: Well, because they make money selling fake meat. That's why.
• 2:24:52
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's what a lot of people were trying
• 2:24:54
  Speaker 3: to push while they were saying that cows are bad. Cows,
• 2:24:57
  Speaker 3: the methane, the environment, man, it's bullshit. All they're doing
• 2:25:02
  Speaker 3: is trying to– someone is pushing this idea that we
• 2:25:05
  Speaker 3: need to stop eating meat because they're profiting off of
• 2:25:07
  Speaker 3: us not eating meat. That's what it is. That's all
• 2:25:10
  Speaker 3: it is. It's not bad for you. It's good for you.
• 2:25:12
  Speaker 2: You need it.
• 2:25:13
  Speaker 3: It's protein. It's super healthy and one of the best
• 2:25:15
  Speaker 3: foods in the world for you. There's just a bunch
• 2:25:17
  Speaker 3: of horse shit out there saying that we need to
• 2:25:19
  Speaker 3: eat less meat for the environment. No, we need to
• 2:25:23
  Speaker 3: figure out how to not pollute. That's for sure. But
• 2:25:26
  Speaker 3: regenerative farms aren't polluting. You're full of shit. It's not true.
• 2:25:30
  Speaker 3: If you want to say we need to stop doing
• 2:25:32
  Speaker 3: factory farming, okay, maybe. Yeah, that's probably a good thing
• 2:25:36
  Speaker 3: to do. But you need to figure out how to
• 2:25:37
  Speaker 3: feed all these fucking people. You've developed a system that's
• 2:25:41
  Speaker 3: entirely reliant on massive amounts of animals moving through. The
• 2:25:44
  Speaker 3: amount of chickens that people eat in America every day
• 2:25:48
  Speaker 3: is crazy. What are the amount of chickens that get
• 2:25:52
  Speaker 3: consumed in America every day? Let's guess.
• 2:25:55
  Speaker 2: 20 million.
• 2:25:58
  Speaker 3: At least. At least. I'm going to say 50 million.
• 2:26:02
  Speaker 3: 50 million chickens a day. How many million chickens a
• 2:26:05
  Speaker 3: day get killed?
• 2:26:06
  Speaker 4: Oh, that's a different question.
• 2:26:08
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay. How many do we eat? How many millions
• 2:26:10
  Speaker 3: of chickens do we eat every day in America?
• 2:26:13
  Speaker 2: Because I know I can account for three in my house.
• 2:26:18
  Speaker 4: 22 million?
• 2:26:18
  Speaker 3: 22 million chickens every day, son.
• 2:26:21
  Speaker 2: That's nuts.
• 2:26:23
  Speaker 3: That is a crazy amount. That's way bigger than the
• 2:26:25
  Speaker 3: entire residence of Los Angeles. If every person was a chicken,
• 2:26:32
  Speaker 3: we eat that amount in this country every day.
• 2:26:34
  Speaker 2: That's crazy. In my home alone, if we roasting chicken,
• 2:26:40
  Speaker 2: if we going to get a roast chicken, we're going
• 2:26:41
  Speaker 2: to get three of them. I didn't even know that
• 2:26:44
  Speaker 2: I could eat a whole chicken by myself until I
• 2:26:47
  Speaker 2: did it. It's like, yo, man, this Muslim... grocery store
• 2:26:56
  Speaker 2: they sell them in there it's already roasted and you
• 2:26:58
  Speaker 2: get two garlic sauces with each chicken and once you
• 2:27:03
  Speaker 2: dip a piece of that chicken in that garlic sauce
• 2:27:05
  Speaker 2: it's not going to survive like it's like I bought
• 2:27:08
  Speaker 2: three of them because I know if two are going
• 2:27:10
  Speaker 2: to make it home I have to eat this one
• 2:27:12
  Speaker 2: by myself and they put on a piece of pita
• 2:27:14
  Speaker 2: bread it's already roasted and it's insane that I would
• 2:27:20
  Speaker 2: eat a whole chicken by myself.
• 2:27:21
  Speaker 3: Estimates suggest 24 to 26 million chickens are killed every
• 2:27:25
  Speaker 3: day in the United States for meat. So if you
• 2:27:29
  Speaker 3: don't want factory farming, you've got to figure out a
• 2:27:32
  Speaker 3: solution where you can get 26 million chickens a day.
• 2:27:35
  Speaker 3: Or you convince people they need to stop eating meat.
• 2:27:39
  Speaker 2: But if we look at, like, say if I'm looking
• 2:27:42
  Speaker 2: at a show, Game of Thrones or House of Dragons,
• 2:27:47
  Speaker 2: when I would see them sit down to eat, it
• 2:27:50
  Speaker 2: was a lot of meat on that table.
• 2:27:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:27:54
  Speaker 2: Variations of meat. It's a whole— I've never seen the
• 2:27:57
  Speaker 2: king sit down. It wasn't a whole entire pig on
• 2:28:01
  Speaker 2: the table. And then if you most people haven't bought
• 2:28:07
  Speaker 2: a lamb and you think that a lamb is enough.
• 2:28:11
  Speaker 2: It depends on what you on who's there. If you
• 2:28:15
  Speaker 2: if we if it's it and it's after the fast.
• 2:28:19
  Speaker 2: and you put a lamb on a spew, and all
• 2:28:22
  Speaker 2: these Muslim families come to your house, that's not enough.
• 2:28:25
  Speaker 2: You need another lamb. You need two lambs. Like, whole lambs. Man,
• 2:28:32
  Speaker 2: meat is delicious. It's great for you, too. Don't let
• 2:28:35
  Speaker 2: anybody tell you any different. They can, but I'm not
• 2:28:38
  Speaker 2: really listening. Like, when somebody tell me about a vegan situation,
• 2:28:43
  Speaker 2: I'll listen to you, but none of it is going,
• 2:28:48
  Speaker 2: it's like, You know how they say something comes in
• 2:28:51
  Speaker 2: one ear and go out the other? It's not even
• 2:28:52
  Speaker 2: going in the ear. It's like I've already made my decision. Okay,
• 2:28:56
  Speaker 2: I'll hear you. But I'm not really listening to you.
• 2:29:00
  Speaker 2: I'm eating the lamb. Goat, I'm eating it.
• 2:29:03
  Speaker 3: Life eats life. It's just the factory farming thing is
• 2:29:06
  Speaker 3: the uncomfortable part. That's the gross part. And if you
• 2:29:10
  Speaker 3: just were on a ranch, it's natural.
• 2:29:12
  Speaker 2: It's natural. If you want to get overtaken, just let
• 2:29:16
  Speaker 2: the animals just do their thing. Chocolate. and see how many, see, see,
• 2:29:20
  Speaker 2: don't you see a, I am legend taught you that.
• 2:29:23
  Speaker 2: It's like, yo, how many antlers ran through a place,
• 2:29:29
  Speaker 2: a stampede? Like it's a, so even like with, with
• 2:29:33
  Speaker 2: the thing that happens in the ocean, sardines, right? So mass,
• 2:29:38
  Speaker 2: all these mass sardines come one spot. Then the whales
• 2:29:42
  Speaker 2: come first. Then the sharks come. And then, then we
• 2:29:47
  Speaker 2: still get sardines. after all these, this ecosystem is eating,
• 2:29:51
  Speaker 2: we still get sardines. It's, you're not running out of natural,
• 2:29:57
  Speaker 2: if you let everything do its thing. You know, do
• 2:29:59
  Speaker 2: you know how many jellyfish it is? Somebody should start
• 2:30:02
  Speaker 2: eating them. You know what I mean? Because that is
• 2:30:04
  Speaker 2: a crazy, jellyfish can mob out. Like, mob out.
• 2:30:09
  Speaker 3: And they can kill you.
• 2:30:10
  Speaker 2: And they can kill you.
• 2:30:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:30:11
  Speaker 2: Somebody eat them. Something eats them.
• 2:30:14
  Speaker 3: You can eat them at Chinese restaurants. I've had jellyfish before.
• 2:30:17
  Speaker 2: Was it good?
• 2:30:17
  Speaker 3: I don't remember it being good. I don't remember where
• 2:30:20
  Speaker 3: I ate it, but I remember someone cooked a specific
• 2:30:23
  Speaker 3: type of jellyfish, and I was like, okay. I didn't
• 2:30:25
  Speaker 3: even know you could cook that.
• 2:30:27
  Speaker 2: In Texas and Louisiana.
• 2:30:28
  Speaker 3: What kind of jellyfish are edible? Find that out.
• 2:30:31
  Speaker 2: In Texas and Louisiana, the amount of crawfish that we
• 2:30:35
  Speaker 2: eat in two months is literally insane.
• 2:30:39
  Speaker 3: Imagine if they didn't. Imagine what crawfish would be.
• 2:30:42
  Speaker 2: Imagine. I know I can account for at least 50
• 2:30:47
  Speaker 2: pounds by myself.
• 2:30:49
  Speaker 3: Think of how many crawfish there would be if people
• 2:30:52
  Speaker 3: weren't eating them. Like when I was a kid, I
• 2:30:54
  Speaker 3: grew up in Florida for a while. We lived in
• 2:30:56
  Speaker 3: Florida in Gainesville, and there was alligators there. Gainesville, Florida.
• 2:30:59
  Speaker 3: But they were protected.
• 2:31:00
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 2:31:01
  Speaker 3: Back then, the alligators were protected.
• 2:31:03
  Speaker 2: Like the Everglades.
• 2:31:04
  Speaker 3: Well, it wasn't the Everglades. Okay, hold on. Edible jellyfish.
• 2:31:09
  Speaker 3: Best known edible species used in Asian cuisine.
• 2:31:12
  Speaker 2: Oh, boy.
• 2:31:13
  Speaker 3: Try to say that word. Ropilema. Escalentum, often referred to
• 2:31:19
  Speaker 3: as the Japanese edible jellyfish. That's a lot easier. Or
• 2:31:22
  Speaker 3: flame jellyfish. So there's a few different species of jellyfish. Anyway,
• 2:31:28
  Speaker 3: my point was when I was a kid, alligators were protected.
• 2:31:32
  Speaker 3: And they were at this lake. And you could see them.
• 2:31:34
  Speaker 3: And people would throw marshmallows in the water. And the
• 2:31:35
  Speaker 3: alligators would eat them. And then now there's too many. Like,
• 2:31:42
  Speaker 3: there's so many alligators there now. Like, they can't get
• 2:31:45
  Speaker 3: rid of them. They're in every body of water. Everywhere
• 2:31:47
  Speaker 3: you go, there's alligators.
• 2:31:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:31:49
  Speaker 3: The entire Everglades is filled with alligators. Golf courses filled
• 2:31:54
  Speaker 3: with alligators.
• 2:31:54
  Speaker 2: I remember when that kid got eaten.
• 2:31:59
  Speaker 3: Oh, Disney World?
• 2:32:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And I was like, yo, that's insanity. Because I
• 2:32:04
  Speaker 2: don't trust a puddle of water in Florida. No.
• 2:32:07
  Speaker 4: I don't.
• 2:32:08
  Speaker 2: A puddle. It could be a puddle. I'm like, it's
• 2:32:10
  Speaker 2: an alligator. What they remove? 400 some odd alligators from
• 2:32:15
  Speaker 2: Disney World.
• 2:32:16
  Speaker 3: Oh, they remove them all the time. They have to
• 2:32:19
  Speaker 3: check every day. They have to go back there and
• 2:32:21
  Speaker 3: make sure that there's no alligators.
• 2:32:22
  Speaker 2: It's like a huge number.
• 2:32:24
  Speaker 3: It's a huge number.
• 2:32:26
  Speaker 2: Maybe 24 this year, 40 or something this year, but
• 2:32:29
  Speaker 2: it's 400 or something a while. That's insane.
• 2:32:32
  Speaker 3: You know, Disney World has a bass fishing lake. You
• 2:32:35
  Speaker 3: can go bass fishing at Disney World. There's like a
• 2:32:38
  Speaker 3: little trip that you take. You go there. 414 alligators
• 2:32:42
  Speaker 3: removed from Disney World since Toddler's death 10 years ago.
• 2:32:47
  Speaker 3: That's a lot of monsters. That's a lot of monsters, man.
• 2:32:51
  Speaker 3: They're legit monsters.
• 2:32:53
  Speaker 2: I remember when I was in Guam. I was in
• 2:32:55
  Speaker 2: Guam doing a show. And I think the military had
• 2:32:58
  Speaker 2: moved there. And there was a bird that they were
• 2:33:00
  Speaker 2: trying to protect. And so they killed all these snakes.
• 2:33:05
  Speaker 2: And this is how when you change the ecosystem to something,
• 2:33:07
  Speaker 2: something happens. So the snakes, not only were they eating
• 2:33:12
  Speaker 2: that bird, but they were eating and controlling the toad population.
• 2:33:18
  Speaker 2: So when they got rid of the snake, we were
• 2:33:22
  Speaker 2: coming back from the show and it's like, it's literally
• 2:33:27
  Speaker 2: hundreds of thousands of frogs that come out at night.
• 2:33:30
  Speaker 4: They're everywhere.
• 2:33:34
  Speaker 2: It's like you just see them flat in the street
• 2:33:36
  Speaker 2: because you can't miss them. It was hundreds of thousands
• 2:33:41
  Speaker 2: of frogs on Guam. And I was like, yo, man.
• 2:33:45
  Speaker 3: People fuck up everything.
• 2:33:46
  Speaker 2: They got to do something, man.
• 2:33:47
  Speaker 3: People meddle. Yeah, they got to bring the snake back.
• 2:33:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, got to bring the snake back. Stop.
• 2:33:51
  Speaker 4: Stop.
• 2:33:52
  Speaker 3: Stop your bullshit. People just meddle. I mean, there's so
• 2:33:57
  Speaker 3: many countries that are infested with animals that people brought
• 2:34:00
  Speaker 3: in to kill other animals. You know, like Australia has
• 2:34:03
  Speaker 3: a giant feral cat problem. They brought in feral cats,
• 2:34:07
  Speaker 3: I think, to kill it. I forget what species. I
• 2:34:09
  Speaker 3: think it was a toad they were trying to kill off.
• 2:34:11
  Speaker 2: My neighborhood has a goddamn cat problem. My neighborhood is
• 2:34:16
  Speaker 2: like one cat has some babies. And my family has
• 2:34:22
  Speaker 2: something to do with it. We fed the cat and
• 2:34:25
  Speaker 2: then shit. Of course.
• 2:34:27
  Speaker 3: You want to be nice. Meanwhile, they're killing billions of
• 2:34:30
  Speaker 3: birds every year in this country. cats I love cats
• 2:34:34
  Speaker 3: I love cats too but they kill billions house cats
• 2:34:37
  Speaker 3: kill billions of birds and mammals in this country.
• 2:34:39
  Speaker 2: Every year if you you don't have a bug problem
• 2:34:42
  Speaker 2: you have a cat in your house because we you
• 2:34:44
  Speaker 2: know we had these water bugs they call them cockroaches
• 2:34:47
  Speaker 2: but I've watched it before I left the cat that's
• 2:34:50
  Speaker 2: just outside he was just slapping one around it's like
• 2:34:52
  Speaker 2: five of them dead out there he's just slapping one
• 2:34:55
  Speaker 2: around like just toying with him like but I don't
• 2:34:58
  Speaker 2: mind because then they never make it into my house
• 2:35:02
  Speaker 2: It's like cat's eye.
• 2:35:03
  Speaker 4: You know about the four pest campaign that happened in China?
• 2:35:07
  Speaker 2: What is that?
• 2:35:08
  Speaker 3: What did they do?
• 2:35:08
  Speaker 4: It explains it to you in just these little four.
• 2:35:10
  Speaker 3: Under Mao, aimed at exterminating rats, flies, mosquitoes, and sparrows
• 2:35:14
  Speaker 3: as a part of the Great Leap Forward. It was
• 2:35:17
  Speaker 3: framed as a public hygiene and agricultural protection drive meant
• 2:35:20
  Speaker 3: to reduce disease and protect grain from being eaten or contaminated.
• 2:35:23
  Speaker 3: Mass mobilization methods included. Trapping and poisoning rats, swatting flies
• 2:35:28
  Speaker 3: and mosquitoes, and organized efforts to scare and kill sparrows.
• 2:35:34
  Speaker 4: Before you get to the end here, they had one
• 2:35:36
  Speaker 4: little problem, so they introduced something else to fix that problem.
• 2:35:38
  Speaker 4: That created a new problem, so they introduced something else
• 2:35:40
  Speaker 4: to fix that problem.
• 2:35:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:35:42
  Speaker 4: And it ended here with tens of millions of people
• 2:35:45
  Speaker 4: dying from a famine because they didn't have the natural
• 2:35:48
  Speaker 4: ecosystem to protect their rights.
• 2:35:50
  Speaker 3: This is crazy. Sparrows were targeted because they ate grain seeds,
• 2:35:54
  Speaker 3: but they also consumed large numbers of crop-eating insects. Their
• 2:35:58
  Speaker 3: near extinction caused an ecological imbalance, leading to insect population booms,
• 2:36:02
  Speaker 3: lower crop yields, and contributing to Chinese famine, the Great
• 2:36:05
  Speaker 3: Chinese Famine, which tens of millions died. Wow.
• 2:36:09
  Speaker 2: You got to give something to get something.
• 2:36:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, man. Don't think you're smarter than nature, you dumb fuck.
• 2:36:16
  Speaker 2: You got to give something to get something.
• 2:36:18
  Speaker 3: There's a balance out there, and we don't totally understand
• 2:36:20
  Speaker 3: that balance.
• 2:36:21
  Speaker 2: What's this fish that we have now?
• 2:36:24
  Speaker 3: Asian carp, the one that's infested all the different lakes.
• 2:36:27
  Speaker 3: And then the snakehead, that's another one.
• 2:36:29
  Speaker 2: Then that torpedoes up.
• 2:36:32
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's the Asian carp. They fly through the air
• 2:36:34
  Speaker 3: when you're in a boat. They just, for whatever reason,
• 2:36:36
  Speaker 3: when you're in a boat, they just try to throw
• 2:36:38
  Speaker 3: themselves onto the boat. They're like, get me the fuck
• 2:36:43
  Speaker 3: out of this lake. There's so many of them. And
• 2:36:46
  Speaker 3: they don't have a natural predator. And they bring them
• 2:36:48
  Speaker 3: into places sometimes to clean up the algae. And then
• 2:36:51
  Speaker 3: also now you have a carp problem. Now the carp
• 2:36:54
  Speaker 3: eat all the algae. They eat everything. Your whole lake
• 2:36:57
  Speaker 3: looks like a swimming pool. There's no algae left. Look
• 2:37:00
  Speaker 3: at these fucking things. That is crazy. That's the Illinois River.
• 2:37:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, this is just hundreds of fish just flying
• 2:37:08
  Speaker 3: through the air everywhere they go. How nuts is that?
• 2:37:12
  Speaker 3: You ever see people, they shoot them with bows and arrows?
• 2:37:15
  Speaker 3: So they wait for him to hop up in the
• 2:37:16
  Speaker 3: air and they try to catch him in the air
• 2:37:17
  Speaker 3: with a bow and arrow.
• 2:37:18
  Speaker 2: With the string on it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 2:37:19
  Speaker 3: There's a bunch of people do that. That's a very
• 2:37:23
  Speaker 3: popular sport.
• 2:37:26
  Speaker 2: Is this fish edible?
• 2:37:27
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I've never heard of it.
• 2:37:30
  Speaker 2: Eating.
• 2:37:30
  Speaker 3: I know people eat regular carp. I don't know if Asian.
• 2:37:33
  Speaker 3: Is Asian carp edible?
• 2:37:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:37:36
  Speaker 3: Yep. There you go. It's lean and nutritious?
• 2:37:39
  Speaker 4: It has a clean, mild flavor.
• 2:37:42
  Speaker 2: So I would just have a net rolling behind me.
• 2:37:45
  Speaker 3: Filet of fish. There you go. Don't you guys need product?
• 2:37:48
  Speaker 3: There you go. Get out there with bows and arrows
• 2:37:51
  Speaker 3: and get it done.
• 2:37:52
  Speaker 2: How many crawfish does Texas and Louisiana consume in crawfish season?
• 2:37:57
  Speaker 3: That's a good question. I guess you would have to
• 2:37:59
  Speaker 3: do it in pounds, right? Would you do it in
• 2:38:01
  Speaker 3: pounds or millions of actual crawfish? Because they don't measure
• 2:38:05
  Speaker 3: them in individuals. They weigh them by weight, right?
• 2:38:09
  Speaker 2: Because they're kind of little. Yeah, they go by weight.
• 2:38:11
  Speaker 3: How many pounds of crawfish do you think? Texas, just
• 2:38:14
  Speaker 3: say Texas and Louisiana in a year.
• 2:38:16
  Speaker 2: 50 million?
• 2:38:18
  Speaker 3: 50 million?
• 2:38:19
  Speaker 4: I have to ask again, but it did give me
• 2:38:23
  Speaker 4: 90% of the farm crawfish comes from Louisiana.
• 2:38:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Wow. 90%.
• 2:38:28
  Speaker 3: How many pounds?
• 2:38:29
  Speaker 4: That didn't give me the answer.
• 2:38:31
  Speaker 3: How many pounds does Texas– I went way too high.
• 2:38:34
  Speaker 3: How many pounds does Texas and Louisiana consume in a year?
• 2:38:39
  Speaker 3: I'm going to say 2 million pounds.
• 2:38:41
  Speaker 2: No, it's got to be more. Really?
• 2:38:43
  Speaker 3: Two million pounds is a lot. It's fucking way more
• 2:38:47
  Speaker 3: than that.
• 2:38:47
  Speaker 2: What is it?
• 2:38:48
  Speaker 3: What is it?
• 2:38:48
  Speaker 4: Seventy percent of the consumed amount is eaten in Louisiana,
• 2:38:53
  Speaker 4: and the total is upwards of 150 million pounds. Yeah,
• 2:38:59
  Speaker 4: I'm telling you. 120 to 150 million annually.
• 2:39:02
  Speaker 2: Whoa. Yeah.
• 2:39:04
  Speaker 3: Just in Louisiana.
• 2:39:05
  Speaker 4: Seventy percent, which is almost 100 million pounds of that
• 2:39:07
  Speaker 4: is just in Louisiana.
• 2:39:10
  Speaker 2: That's crazy. Between crawfish boils and crawfish egg touffee, that is...
• 2:39:15
  Speaker 2: Fucking delicious. That's a thing.
• 2:39:19
  Speaker 3: That is a crazy thing.
• 2:39:20
  Speaker 4: Texas doesn't have a number. It's just tens of millions.
• 2:39:23
  Speaker 3: Well, all we need, we've got the Louisiana. I would
• 2:39:27
  Speaker 3: have thought there would be double what the whole country ate.
• 2:39:30
  Speaker 2: That's crazy. Like, Maryland actually thinks that they are big
• 2:39:34
  Speaker 2: on crab, and we'd just be shaking our head like, okay...
• 2:39:42
  Speaker 2: I think we ship crab to them. The Chesapeake Bay
• 2:39:47
  Speaker 2: cannot outdo the Gulf of Mexico. Gulf of America now,
• 2:39:51
  Speaker 2: by the way. We still Gulf of Mexico. I don't
• 2:39:57
  Speaker 2: think Mexico agreed. I don't think they did either. This
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  Speaker 2: is not the Gulf of America.
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  Speaker 3: We're not saying that.
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  Speaker 2: That's hilarious.
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  Speaker 3: Well, hey, brother. It's great to talk to you again,
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  Speaker 3: as always. It's always fun.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 3: Very good to do.
• 2:40:15
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: Do it more often.
• 2:40:16
  Speaker 2: Man, I'm here. Okay.
• 2:40:19
  Speaker 3: Let's do it. It's always fun.
• 2:40:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:40:21
  Speaker 3: Tell everybody if they want to consume all your specials.
• 2:40:24
  Speaker 3: All of it's on YouTube. Is it?
• 2:40:25
  Speaker 2: All of it's on YouTube, but you can go to AliSadiq.com.
• 2:40:29
  Speaker 2: The new special out, My Father, is getting busy right now.
• 2:40:33
  Speaker 2: It is a great special. It really is.
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  Speaker 3: Where did you record this?
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  Speaker 2: That was in Detroit.
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  Speaker 3: Beautiful. Like I said, I love what you do. I
• 2:40:46
  Speaker 3: love the fact that you're so prolific and that you've
• 2:40:49
  Speaker 3: built this whole thing just on the hard work. So congratulations.
• 2:40:53
  Speaker 2: Appreciate you. Thank you very much. Always good to see you.
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  Speaker 4: Bye. Bye.
• 2:40:55
  Speaker 2: Bye. Bye.