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(#19) How to Awaken the Feminine Within: Spacious, Sensual, Sovereign · Alignment With Jenn

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Hello, good morning. Welcome to this episode of
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receive. I believe it's our 19th episode,
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which is super duper exciting and I am your host and it's hazy
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and I am going to be sharing with you today a bit more about
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feminine energy. So the last episode that we had,
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I dove into some of the principles and the concepts
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behind feminine energy and how it helps us to manifest the
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things that we want in our life. And I almost feel like feminine
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energy nowadays is a lost art. It is something that has sort of
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been swept under the rug in the favor of a very masculine
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dominated society to the detriment of each one of us to
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men and women. Men are craving feminine energy
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and women are craving it as well.
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And it's leading to this epidemic of burnout, of us
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feeling unworthy, of us feeling not good enough.
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And so I want to dive further into this today.
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And at the end of the episode, I'm going to give you about 10
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different tools for you to cultivate and practice within
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your life in order to begin creating more feminine energy
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for yourself. So it's quite exciting.
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I'm really, really just so excited to talk about this
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concept today because it has truly transformed my life.
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And I believe that it was one of the key pieces, along with
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everything else that I teach. It was one of the key pieces
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that really allowed me to feel safe and calm and peaceful
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within my nervous system was recognizing that I don't need to
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be anything that I'm not because I'm not naturally a masculine
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being, right? And trying to fit into a mold
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that wasn't made for you is really uncomfortable and it
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doesn't feel good. So yeah, I'm really excited for
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this for you. So what I want to reiterate just
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from the last episode and go a little bit deeper into is first
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starting off with the difference between desire and need.
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Because this is so important and it cannot be over us.
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Estimated overemphasize. That's what I'm looking for.
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Desire is something that I think we have been taught to believe
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is a bad thing to believe that, oh, I shouldn't want that.
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I should hide my wanting. I should hide my desire for
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that, right? And so the reality is that
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desire is actually a positive, expansive energy of yes, of I
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want to call more of this into your life.
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If you do not have that energy, you are going to limit your
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ability to call things into your life.
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If shame yourself for wanting, then you're not going to on a
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subconscious level, allow yourself to want more.
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If I believe on some level that my desire for money is dirty and
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bad, then I'm going to struggle to call in more money.
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So we actually have to be very comfortable with desire,
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especially as the feminine, because as I mentioned, the
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feminine is already whole and full and she wants to be filled
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up more, right? And that's where desire comes
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in. If you think about it, what
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creates life? Desire, right?
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It takes desire on the part of the man and the woman in order
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to create a baby. Desire is where life is birthed
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from. And that is true for everything.
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Every single idea you have, every single manifestation that
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you want to create begins with desire.
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OK. And so if we do not have desire
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or if we are shameful about our desire, then we put ourselves
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into a place of lack. OK, but recognizing that desire
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is different from need. Desire comes from this place of
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already fullness and wholeness. This recognition of I will
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always be taken care of. I live in an abundant universe.
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It is this owning of your wanting, and it is a recognition
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of the abundance that already exists in the universe and your
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ability to tap into that abundance.
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Need comes from a place of lack. It comes from feeling like you
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are behind from this place of I am not good enough.
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I need. Need is something to fill this
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hole inside of me, or I need something to feel safe or I need
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something to feel better. It is a shaky foundation for
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creation when we are in need, right?
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Nobody likes to be with a very needy partner.
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Maybe some people do. I'm sure there are people out
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there that like that, but it doesn't feel good because need
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is this energy of taking and trying to get.
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Have you ever been in a conversation with somebody and
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you're talking to them and you can tell like, oh God, that
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person is like trying to get me to like them, or they're trying
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to get something out of me, or they're trying to make me do
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something because they have this big need.
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And vibrationally, you're feeling into that sense of need
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and it doesn't feel good, right? But if you meet someone that's
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just so excited about their next chapter, they're so excited
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about what they're creating, not from a place of need, but from a
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place of desire. It's a very different frequency
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and it creates a very different result because frequency is what
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determines form. It determines what is formed and
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created within our lives. So I wanted to reiterate that at
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that point, because it's, it's so crucial and I'd love for you
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to start thinking about in your life really like where am I
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coming from? A place of need of lack of if I
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don't have this, I won't be OK. And where am I coming from?
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A place of desire, right? For me, this podcast is purely
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from a place of desire. I really don't need this for my
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business. It's it's, I'm sure it's very
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helpful for my business, right? But I don't need it.
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I receive my revenue for my business in another way.
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But I love doing this podcast. I love waking up early in the
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morning, having a nice cup of tea, dimming the lights and
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letting just the sunrise be the light for this.
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I love it because it's from a place of desire.
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I feel called, I feel pulled to do this.
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So that's really our first concept that I want to really
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mention today. The second concept I want to
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mention as well is the feminine's ability to surrender
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is vastly important because surrender.
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And by surrender, I mean not needing to control everything,
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not needing to always know how it's going to work out, not
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micromanaging the outcome. Surrender is knowing life has a
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better plan for you and being OK with allowing life to unfold in
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a way that may look a little bit different than you expected, but
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recognizing that it will be better than you could have ever
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imagined. And the feminine's ability to
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surrender is one of her greatest gifts and one of her greatest
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attributes. The feminine is not meant to be
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in a controlling energy. Truly.
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A controlling energy is an energy of lack, or it's a
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masculine energy of trying to get an outcome.
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And I think about this just like in dating, right?
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The dance between in dating is so masculine and feminine and
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that dynamic and the feminine's ability to surrender and say,
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OK, you know what, I'm going to let him make the plans.
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I'm going to go with the flow. I'm going to wait for him to
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text me. I'm not going to text him first.
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I'm not going to try and make a plan.
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I'm not going to try and force him to see me again.
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Ultimately leads to a significantly better
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relationship. In my experience and what I've
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seen many, many times, again and goes with these principles,
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because she's able to surrender and trust that the right person
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will come to her and not try to force the outcome and create a
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masculine outcome. Because that allows her to call
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in a truly masculine partner. Because a truly masculine
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partner who really wants to be with her will pursue her.
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He will follow and he will pursue and he will try to see
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her again and again and again and again versus a man that's
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questioning whether he wants to be with her.
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He's not going to pursue her or a man who is in his feminine,
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which most feminine women do not want to be with.
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It doesn't feel safe for us. He will not pursue, OK.
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And so that's very clear signaling to us.
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So that ability to surrender and trust and say, you know what?
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This guy's not texting me. That means maybe he will, but
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maybe he's just not the right person for me.
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And that's OK. The universe has a better plan
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for me. That takes so much strength and
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so much courage and such a strong ability to surrender.
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But that woman is going to get a far better relationship than the
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woman who is trying to control who's texting him 500 times.
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When are we going to go out again?
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Or why haven't you texted me or oh, this is what I made for
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breakfast, right? It's going to be a very, very
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different relationship because you can even see in how I
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describe it, one comes up from a place of desire. 1 comes from a
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place of need. Then place of need creates that
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shaky foundation. So surrender is one of the
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greatest gifts of the feminine. It allows this inner play
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between her and the universe. It allows this inner play of Co
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creation of saying, you know what?
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I do want this outcome. I want my launch in my business
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to be so successful and I'm so excited about it that I'm going
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to show up. I'm going to do my absolute best
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and then I'm going to let it go and I'm going to allow the
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universe to bring in the right people for me.
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I'm going to surrender my need to control it.
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Does that mean that I don't devote myself to it and show up
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for what I love because I'm in love with loving it?
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No, it doesn't mean that, but it means that I let go of trying to
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control the outcome and I allow I open the door for divinity and
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divine grace to come in and do the Co creative part because
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we're not creating this life on our own.
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I'm sure you've realized that by now, right?
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We don't get to control everything.
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We don't really get to control much actually.
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And so when we allow in for that space for divinity to come in
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and support us when we surrender, we receive such a
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better. OK, so another piece of the
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puzzle that I want to mention to you as well, and this is the
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last piece I'll mention before I get into those tools because I
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want to make sure we have plenty of time for those is standards.
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The feminine is responsible for holding the standard and for the
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pacing. She decides what feels good to
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me, what feels like an expression, a high expression of
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myself, care of myself, love of myself, trust.
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What is my standard for my life. And then she allows the
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masculine, she allows the universe to meet her there.
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So you can think of the feminine standards as like this masculine
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container for her life, OK. And this is something that truly
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my understanding of feminine energy has evolved vastly over
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the last few years because I've been playing with these concepts
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in my life and I've seen that it's this dance, OK?
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And this is one of the things that I think most people don't
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understand about the feminine because the UN developed, the
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immature feminine thinks like, oh, I just flow.
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And like, you know, I just do my thing and like I allow the
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universe to take care of me. And la, la, la, la, la.
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And those that kind of feminine energy often ends up barely
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making any money, barely being able to take care of herself,
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being dependent on another person because she does not have
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standards for herself. She does not have a container in
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which that allows her feminine energy to flow because we all
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have masculine and feminine energy and standards allow us to
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almost like wrangle. And I'm thinking of like wild
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horses or like rushing water. Wrangle in that feminine energy.
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The feminine energy is the wild horses, the rushing water.
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And this is really, really important.
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Even if we have a partner, right, who helps and supports us
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and takes care of us, it's important for us to do this for
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ourselves because people will reflect back to us, our
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standards for ourselves. This is, I have an episode
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that's called Teaching the Universe to Treat you like a
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Queen. It's like 4 or five episodes
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back. That's a really good one to
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touch on and listen to because I dive deeper into this concept of
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like the reflective nature of the universe and how if you want
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to be treated like a queen, you have to start with treating
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yourself like a queen. And that's part of where our
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standards for our self come in, right?
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And it's part of where we say, OK, if I want to start a
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business, I'm going to dedicate my time and my energy to
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focusing and creating in that business, right?
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If it set, if we say I want to have a loving, healthy
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relationship and you know what, in the past, I've dated a bunch
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of losers who treat me like crap, then I'm going to dedicate
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time to healing my wounds, to learning about relationship
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dynamics so that way I can have that healthy relationship.
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Standards are what call forth our behavior.
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And if we have low standards for ourself, we have low standards
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and a low quality life, OK, that's the truth.
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And recognizing that standards can come in many different
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forms. And you get to decide the
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standards that you create for yourself, right?
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Some of the standards I create for myself are I navigate my
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triggers, I navigate my painful, uncomfortable emotions.
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I allow myself to feel them, and then I rise up and I allow
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myself to show up how I want to show up, right?
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I don't allow myself to get angry and unkind, really, in any
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situation. Does it happen once in a while?
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Absolutely. I'm human.
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But one of my standards that I continuously rising to reach is
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how I show up for other people. Am I kind to them in
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disagreements? Am I loving to them?
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Do I respect their opinion? Right.
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Standards can be how we show up. They can also be how what we
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believe. So my standards can be something
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like my life is meaningful and magical, and that is a standard.
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And do you see how just saying that starts to open these doors
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and these windows of possibility.
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So you can think of the feminine as this energy, that is, this
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energy of wild horses, this unbounded energy of the quantum
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field, of manifestation, of unseen forces, of raging wild
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water. And think of these standards as
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lane lines, like bowling lane lines that keep us from not
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showing up as the version of ourselves that we want to show
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up as. Because the truth is like, who
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do you want to be in the world? That's what your standard should
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reflect. OK.
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And so another one might be, I'm not available for lack.
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I'm not available for stress. If I recognize that I'm getting
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into a loop of lack and stress, then I will raise my
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consciousness. I will shift my thinking.
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I will change my Physiology to get myself out of that Ave.
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And the more the standards are not like, OK, I set a standard.
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If I don't meet it, then I suck, right?
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They're not perfectionism. They are what you're
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continuously rising to meet. You're continuously saying,
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these are my standards for myself.
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I'm not available for emotional dumping.
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This is something that I've had to really work on because I used
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to be the person that like my friends would call and then they
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would just like unload emotionally on and I'd end the
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call feeling terrible and then they would feel great.
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And so now I have guidelines around it, right?
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If I have a friend that calls me and wants to gossip around
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someone, I'm not available for that.
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I'm, it won't be unkind, but I'll redirect the conversation.
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I'll just say, you know what? This doesn't feel good.
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Why don't we talk about something else?
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I'm not available for things that don't light me up.
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I'm not available for fear. I don't know if that's a good
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one. Let me think about that.
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Am I not available for fear? You know, I'm not available for
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bowing to fear. Fear is OK.
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Fear is a normal emotion, but I'm not available for letting it
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run my life. So I think it can be really,
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really helpful if you answer these questions for yourself of
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how do I want to lead myself? That's really what your
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standards are. Their self leadership.
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They're saying who do I want to be in the world and what
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standards do I need to cultivate?
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A standard I have for myself is I exercise four to five times a
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week. That is something that is a non
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negotiable for me. And I know that when I move away
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from that standard, I don't feel as good.
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Okay, Another standard for me is I walk my dog every single day.
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That's a standard I've set because I value my relationship
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with him. I've done this ever since I got
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him. It's very rare, like I have to
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be sick to miss a day where I don't walk him because I, I even
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if I don't feel like it, it really matters to me that he has
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a good quality of life. And I know that those walks
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light him up, right. And so our standards could be
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about other people as well and our interactions with other
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people or other beings like our pets.
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I have standards for how I show up for my family, how we
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interact with my mom and dad. And a lot of these are probably
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unconscious for you, But I think it's worth it to look at each
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area of your life and ask, you know, what am I available for?
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What am I not available for? Have I went to lead myself?
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So those can be some really powerful journaling exercises
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for you. And I think we're going to
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actually work with this in my community this week in the
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manifestation accelerator because it's so juicy.
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So OK, those are some more aspects and tools of the
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feminine. And I'm sure you can see like we
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could honestly spend 6 months diving into feminine energy and
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how to cultivate it in each aspect of your life, from
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relationship to health to business.
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But what I really want to get into today, and maybe we will do
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that at some point, is I want to share with you the tools that I
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have found exceptionally helpful to cultivate this feminine
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energy. So cultivating feminine energy,
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the first thing I will say to you is spaciousness.
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Lay down your need to rush through life.
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OK? We all have it to some extent.
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Mine used to be awful. Like I always felt rushed.
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I always felt like there was like a monster on my back trying
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to be like, oh, you got to go faster, You got to go faster.
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Like you're going to die. You're going to get into lack if
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you don't go faster, right? My mom used to say that I had
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this, Apparently I've had this my whole life of hurry up and
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get it done, right? I would always hurry up and get
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it done. And I'm a very efficient person
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still, but I've begun allowing in this room for spaciousness.
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What that means is if I know I have an appointment and it's 20
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minutes away, I give myself 3035 minutes to get there, you know,
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and if I get there early, then I have a book and I'll sit there
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and I'll read my book and it's delicious and it's fun versus
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getting there right on time and then having to fill out the
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paperwork, right? Whatever it might be.
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Rushing through life is a subconscious indicator that
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creates lack and that creates fear.
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Think about it, right? Our ancestors when they were
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rushing around, that was an indicator that they were not
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safe. So when you're constantly
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rushing around, you're creating this subconscious feeling of not
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being safe. What that does is it
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disregulates your nervous system.
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It disconnects you from your intuition.
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It disconnects you from your high vibrational emotions and
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your ability to manifest things that you want.
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So giving yourself more spacious, right?
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Not packing your calendar with millions of things to do, giving
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yourself some time and some freedom.
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And I know this is harder for our Mamas, right, because we're
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mamaing, but it you can still do it.
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You can still do it in certain ways by asking others for more
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help, by finding pockets in your day, maybe waking up a little
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bit earlier to give yourself a little bit of that slow down
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time. I promise you, honestly, if you
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do nothing else that I'm going to share with you today, this is
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one of the most powerful things you can do is just allowing
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yourself to do a little bit less and saying, yeah, maybe I want
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to accomplish a bunch as much this week.
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Maybe I will be a little bit slower, but I'm going to feel so
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much better. I'm going to feel so much better
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doing it. So cultivating that
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spaciousness, I can't overemphasize it enough.
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Allowing yourself time to make a slow breakfast, right?
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Going, slowing down when you're walking.
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Some people just walk so Dang fast, especially like New
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Yorkers. I feel like in California, we
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don't have this problem as much, but we still do.
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We still, there's still some people that walk really fast
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fast, right? It's that rushing that
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dysregulates the nervous system. So the easiest thing you can do
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to show your nervous system that you're safe to tap into that
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parasympathetic, that rest and digest state where you'll
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receive more downloads is just slow down.
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Sometimes when I'm driving places, I'll literally just go
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over to the slow lane and I'll just slow down because I'm like,
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I do not want to be in this hustle and bustle.
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I do not want to be in this rush.
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You know, I'll check if I especially if I'm driving by the
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ocean, like heck yes, I'm going to slow down for that.
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Another piece of this feminine energy puzzle cultivation is
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also dance and movement. So a huge way that we connect
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into our feminine energy is through our bodies, right?
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The masculine is very mental. The feminine is very feelings
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and emotions based and that is in the body.
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So I love, I dance probably pretty much every day.
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I'm also taking a twerking class once a week, which is so much
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fun and I love it. And the music is so good.
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Dance is a really powerful way, and you know, I encourage you to
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do it in a space where you're alone.
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You put on some music and you just move to whatever rhythm
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your body wants to. It can look weird, it can look
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silly, it can look like a psychopath.
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You can hit the pillow, you can yell into the pillow.
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Allow yourself to use movement to move emotion because emotion
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is energy and motion. And so dance and movement allows
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you to move that right And movement.
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Something I've found for myself is that when I allow myself, and
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I have an episode on this, I don't know what it is, but it's
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about your cycle and about the different kinds of exercise and
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the different kinds of foods that are beneficial throughout
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your cycle and also the spiritual gifts that you can tap
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into at different points in your cycle.
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But I digress. Different kinds of movements
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throughout the month, especially.
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I mean, even if you're not menstruating, even if you've
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gone through menopause or things like that, you still will have a
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hormonal cycle. It's is just going to be more
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subtle. It will be more tied to the
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phases of the moon. So the moon affects us a lot as
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well. But recognizing that doing
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different kinds of movement throughout the month is OK.
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You don't have to be a man and do the same workout every single
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day. It's actually probably not very
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beneficial to you. So allowing yourself to do
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different kinds of movement throughout the month, maybe
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sometimes you do a little bit slower.
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I let myself do different kinds of movement throughout the week.
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So I have my standard for five workouts a week, four or five
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usually I guess it's 5, but within those five, it will
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fluctuate. I always love doing my dance
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class. There's a bar class I do every
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week, right? But other than that, maybe I'll
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do yoga, maybe I'll do a weight workout.
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I let myself flow and experience what my body wants to
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experience. And I trust that.
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I trust in the intuition of my body.
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So allowing yourself to have in that movement, walking and going
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on slow walks with a really nice podcast like some of you are
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probably doing right now. Another one is touch and
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sensuality, and this can be getting a massage if you're
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single. It can be touching yourself and
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it can be like sexual touch, but it can also be just literally
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like touching your arms and really slowly stroking your arms
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or stroking your legs. Because what happens is when we
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tap into our sense of touch, it takes energy.
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You're literally directing energy with your hands away from
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your analytical mind into the sensory experience.
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And senses really help pull us back into the present moment to
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experience what is. When we feel pleasure from
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touch, we are actually drawing our energy into the present
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moment and allowing ourselves to feel more connected, get out of
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our fearful over analyzing mind. So touch and sensuality.
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So by sensuality, what I really mean is just like connecting to
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your senses in a really, really present way.
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So this could be drawing yourself a really nice bath and
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just being in the bath, right? Maybe you don't put on a
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podcast, Maybe you put on some soft music and you just, you
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know, touch your arms, you touch your legs.
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Maybe you have bubble bath in there and you play with the
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bubble bath. It's being present in the moment
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with the sensations you're experiencing.
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It could even be as simple as closing your eyes, dropping your
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energy into your hearts face, putting your hands over your
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heart and feeling that energy and feeling that breath flow,
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right? It's very easy for us to
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reconnect into our senses. That leads me to the next one,
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which is really moving into your heart.
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And I, I do that by the heart centered breathing I just
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described where you put your hands over your heart, you pull
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your energy and your focus into your heart space at the center
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of your chest and you just slowly breathe into that space.
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You can even imagine a pink light, but that takes us sensory
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into our bodies, and it also brings energy into our heart,
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which harmonizes our emotional frequency.
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It harmonizes our energy, it creates coherence in our field.
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It reduces the static in our field.
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So another one is beautification.
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So this is something for a long time that when I was really like
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living in my masculine, I never did.
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It was like, it would be like, you know, beautifying your
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spaces. I lived with one of my
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boyfriend's for a long time and he was very minimal.
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And I remember our house was like so Dang minimal and it
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wasn't beautified, right? And I wasn't connected to my
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feminine so I didn't feel the need to beautify it.
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But and it doesn't mean necessarily beautifying your
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home, but you think about the beauty industry, right?
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We are naturally drawn to beautifying our vessel, to
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beautifying ourselves. It could be adorning your body
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with beautiful clothes or things that feel good for you.
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It could be being, you know, cooking yourself a nice meal and
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maybe plating. It could be decorating your home
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for Halloween. Yesterday, I just bought some
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pumpkins. I bought one of those like
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cinnamon brooms. You know, it's fun.
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It feels good to beautify spaces, to beautify experiences
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because it's a form of creation, right?
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And the feminine is the creatrix.
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She is literally the creator of life.
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She's bringing. She's a portal to bring life
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into this world. And part of that is through the
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beautification of our environment, right?
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They say that the masculine will get the house, the feminine will
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turn it into a home. That's that beautification.
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So the next thing I want to talk about is prioritization of
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pleasure and my pleasure. I'm really talking about more
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like sexual pleasure. It could be, you know, like the
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sensuality and pleasure in all regards, like baths and things
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like that, but also this sexual aspect because there's a lot of
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shame, there's a lot of judgment around sexuality, prioritizing
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pleasure in, you know, touching yourself, feeling into your
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body. Because if you read the work of
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Mama Gina, she has a ton of work around how really connecting to
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our pleasures can really, really benefit us and really connect us
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to our femininity and connect us to even a higher power.
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And she, she has this quote that says pleasure is a nutrient.
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If we don't have it, we aren't living the fullest, healthiest
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version of ourselves. And she when she talks about
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pleasure, she talks about it in all regards right from a bath to
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movement to sensuality. But she also talks a lot about
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connecting to your own personal pleasure and self pleasure
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through orgasm, through physical touch, through those kinds of
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things. Because when this is another
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quote from Mama Gina, she says when we are disconnected from
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our pleasure, we're disconnected from our voice.
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When we shame that aspect of ourselves, when we don't allow
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ourselves to connect to that aspect, then we are turning off
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a huge part of what it means to be feminine.
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There's nothing wrong with pleasuring yourself or having
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pleasure with your partner or pleasure with another person.
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It's actually really good. And so allowing yourself to
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weave that into your week is going to repay you tenfold.
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And it's not even just the things that I've already
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mentioned, but it also supports your hormones.
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It supports your chemical responses within your body.
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It's actually very healing to allow yourself to connect to
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that. So that's another one that's
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really valuable, soft practices like yen yoga or restorative
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yoga, things that allow you to slow down.
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Another one I will mention is sisterhood.
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So connecting with other women in a non competitive way,
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because remember the competitiveness is the
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masculine, but allowing each other to rise together, creating
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a sisterhood is one of the most valuable things that you can do.
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It's one of the things that the women that come into my
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community love the most is the supportive sisterhood.
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There's nothing but supportiveness and good vibes
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between each other because it's a true sisterhood.
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And that's what a true sisterhood is.
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And if you think back to hunter and gatherers, we were in
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sisterhood all the time, right? We weren't spending our days
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with the men. The men were out hunting.
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We were with other women. And there's something so
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powerful and so healing about a really beautiful sisterhood that
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supports one another, that rises together.
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So that is the final thing I will leave you with today.
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I hope you have absolutely, absolutely enjoyed this.
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If you're interested in going deeper into any of these
28:17
concepts to learning more, tune into the next podcast episodes.
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I think I'm going to do another one, probably about feminine
28:23
energy and some more concepts around this and listen to the
28:26
last episode. And please leave me some
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comments on this episode on Spotify or Apple and reviews.
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I'd love, love, love to hear from you.
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And I hope that you have thoroughly enjoyed this as I
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have thoroughly enjoyed sharing it with you.
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OK, bye, bye.