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College Football's Change Means THIS for Oklahoma's FUTURE | Sooner or Later Sports (S2 E5) · Sooner or Later Sports

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how are you doing on this beautiful day? Hey, good, good,
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good good here. We missed you last week. We have been Yeah,
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we have been scarce as a group. I have been extremely scarce.
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Just a lot of a lot of fun life stuff, like glad it's in
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the off week or the off season for whatever whatever we can call the off
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season Nowaday. But you know, once we once you said hey, listen,
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let's let's make this happen today, I was excited, very excited to
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get back in. Yeah, me too, man, I'm glad to have
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you back. Yeah. It's it's been a four in that really really really
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quiet time. And so I in a way feel bad for you all as
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viewers. This is kind of like the more stressful time of the year for
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me. And what's funny is that it's stressful because I'm trying to make sure
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that we're coming up with content that you all would enjoy. And I'm a
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very I'm very hard on myself, so I guess I should admit that out
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loud so I can hear that from me too. I think we just lost
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Coop, which is always a great thing to see. Okay, the camera
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just was off. That's weird. I'm pretty hard on myself. I like
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to make sure that I'm giving you guys the best. And yeah, so
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this is a stressful time for me, so you know, bear with me
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as we figure things out. But we got some fun topics to talk about
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today we're gonna jump into. We'll talk about college football and the changes we're
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hearing about the playoffs, which came this week, which is very much fascinating.
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We're gonna talk more about coaching rankings, get coops thoughts around the latest
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coaching ranking from two four seven from the SEC coaches. We'll dive into the
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latest coach We just added new staff member, which is a very big deal
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that people don't understand. And then we're going to wrap things up. We'll
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talk about, you know, preparation for springball, we'll talk about running for
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the playoffs. We got a lot of things to really just jump into the
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head these conversations. So thank you for up hoping the comments. Please let
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us know how you feel, what's your thoughts. We definitely want you guys
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to jump in. And yes, Steven, you're one hundred percent right.
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We have a project. What's up? Lemon? You were first. We're
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we're streaming on both channels right now, which is always dope. Uh yeah,
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coop your soft on your mic. But I could hear you fine,
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So I guess I think we'll be all right. My shirt is very much
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he does yell, yell a lot more and uh and I'm very very medicated.
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So ah, there you go. And Stephen, you're correct. That
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y'all could the link it's in the description below. I've reopened it up.
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We'll be filtering and clearing people out if you're in there, showing you
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behind just f y. Well, we got a lot of angles and stuff
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we're gonna work on wait and yeah, yeah, yeah, Sean, we
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bring you on. Don't don't worry. We're gonna we're gonna make a plan
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for that. We're gonna make a plan for that. You know what,
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We're gonna map out all the next two weeks. I don't know which days
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it's gonna happen. And I'll just say this is, uh this Scott Hall
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reference. Damn, like so good. I don't know. So listen,
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just if you've been wondering what has Coop been doing, like in the past
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two months, like what has he been doing? And what guys actually,
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outside of myself, I don't think anybody's wondered that. But I randomly turned
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on TV a couple of weeks back, the night that The Rock showed back
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up on RAW. Oh yeah, I haven't watched I haven't watched like wrestling
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in a few years, and so when I turned it on, I see
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that and I'm like, oh cool, they're playing wrestling replays from several years
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ago. And then like, of course I look at the Twitter and it's
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going crazy. So but yeah, no, that was that was pretty good.
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But uh, the Scott Hall reference. Okay, the that. That's
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that's that's dope. I love it. Uh yeah, that warms my heart.
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And yeah, so we will we will make that happen here in March.
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Tan. So that's a great March idea, especially cause Marsh Madis is
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gonna hit. Baby, you know, basketball is gonna be here. I'll
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be traveling. I'm going to my annual trip. So if anybody is in
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Vegas during March Madness, find me. I will be there at a sportsbook
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watching games somewhere. And if you're gonna be there, just let me know.
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We'll we'll find a way to connect. I'm glad to connect and grab
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a drink and chill or whatnot and all of that jazz. So but no,
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cool, let's talk jump to the first topic, right. I don't
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know if y'all realize this, but the NCAA has been having conversations all week.
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I dropped a video early this week on it about the playoffs, and
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so they've come up with the structure for the collegetball playoffs. We'll see a
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five plus seven model, with the top five conference champions being given the first
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five seeds and then at larges will be the next ranked seven teams that's gonna
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be real interesting to see just how they just how they put that together.
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But the only thing good that the Collegeball Playoff has going for them is that
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they waked until almost mid season before they start ranking, so we actually know
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who's what. I just don't like that they reference back to what the APS
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people ranked and the coaches palled people ranked at the beginning of the season,
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because you don't really know, right, It's levels of disrespect. Sometimes you're
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blowing out you're blowing out ranked teams and you're like, wait, but they're
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not even ranked like five weeks in, So off my soapbox on that.
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But that's one thing. Now the next thing, and this is the one
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thing that cool we have to talk about, especially in regards to Oklahoma,
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because they're talking about going from twelve to fourteen in twenty twenty six now,
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so they're talking about adding more in there. Cool when you hear that what
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what what? What? What jumps out to you on it? Why now?
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Like why now? Like why are we? Like? I feel like
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there really needs to be some separation between what is what is actual like n
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c A A and what is actually like people amongst college football, just because
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I'm like, the NCAA has had no teeth, and then all of a
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sudden, you know, they get the injunction the other day with the recruiting
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stuff with Tennessee so bad. Yeah, and then and so I'm just you
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know, it kind of bothers me just because, like listen, it's it's
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kind of like you coming home from college and your mom asked you to do
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something, and then when you're like, yo, I was gonna leave and
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she's like, I'm going to spank your butt, you would look at and
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be like, we're past that. Like I feel like I feel like major
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college football's past the NCAA. We've outgrown it and it's just absolutely gone.
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So it's maybe it's you know, it's also that little thing of like,
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hey, what I'm going to do right now is I'm going to hop in
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here and I'm gonna try to help out some stuff and I'm gonna try to
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make some rules and regulations because I'm still part of this guys. Don't forget
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me. Remember I'm the fun uncle. Like nobody's said nobody, nobody literally
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the NCAA talks, and then everybody's like do we really have to listen to
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them yet, And I mean, I think that behind closed doors, the
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Mega conference conversation is already having and so you know it'll be a situation where,
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you know, like the OU Texas announcement, we knew that was coming
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and then it wasn't like official for a few months. And uh so I
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think that's that. So my biggest issue you on the overall if we're ready
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for that part on the overall thing is I had this idea a while back
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because I was explaining it to somebody that I work with, and I was
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just like, you know, I don't really love the first round by because
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say you're Georgia Oklahoma and you get you get a bye, and then but
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those first round games are played at you know, the home the home home
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fields, and so you would have I mean, just think of the NFL.
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I mean it's like, hey, listen, we're gonna take Kansas City,
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we're gonna take Baltimore, we're gonna take San Francisco, and we're gonna
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take what other team that didn't win the Super Bowl, and just all of
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a sudden, go, hey, listen, you guys' first round you're gonna
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have a buy second round. We're gonna come back, let's see here in
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Baltimore. We're gonna have you play in Indianapolis because why not? And like
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there wouldn't be any home field advantage for that second round, which is which
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is kind of something, you know, insane. So, I mean,
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there is just a lot right now to where it's why are we making changes
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to something we haven't started yet? Like that's another question, like why are
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we still discussing this? This is always going to say this. It's none
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of us have this figured out, and people are already trying to make changes
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to make it better before it's even started. So it's going to be a
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process. It's kind of all that to say this. It's going to be
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a process. Yeah, and that's the thing. We're doing that because there's
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money involved here, right. ESPN's already talking about the money that they want
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to spend on this, and so yeah, we're doing this because there's money
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involved. That's the only reason why you do all of this. And it's
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I think it's pretty preposterous that the first thing we're thinking about doing is going
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into expansion before even like you said, testing out the twelve team model,
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which I mean twelteen miles cool. This is what the schedule looks like.
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You got you know, we're gonna the Friday and Saturday games are on campus,
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which I mean, if you're the first round playoff game, it's kind
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of cool, I mean, you know, but it's also like, you
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know, right before the holidays. Then you've got the quarterfinals, which would
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be at the Bowl the Big Bowl sites, and then you've got the semis
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and in the Natty. And so for me one, Notre Dame got screwed
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out of all of this because there's no way they can actually be one of
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the four. In order to get a first round by, you have to
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be a team, a conference champion. No, we all know, we
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all know not to day an' uh. The next one is you're not gonna
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get the teams that get the first round by. They're not gonna get that
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revenue from the on campus games the week before, which is gonna be weird.
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Yeah yeah, right, So how do you share revenue with that?
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So it's gonna be a complated, complicated conversation. But if you're going to
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fourteen for Oklahoma, I say, if the Sooners want to be able to
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make the playoff, finish with at least nine wins, right, and you're
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gonna have to win some games against ranked teams, and I guess you have
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to win them against ranked teams in the Cossetball Playoffs piece, which I hope
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that that's what they're gonna leverage. I'm hoping that that's what we're gonna go
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with and not really leverage the AP portion of it. Focus on what the
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Collegetball Playoff ranks it and then give them give people points for winning ranked teams
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that are that we are ranked or were ranked at the time of play,
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so that it makes more sense. Right that way, you can actually waive
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if teams a good or not. But it's going to be a cluster.
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So for Oklahoma, the biggest thing that we're gonna have to focus on dog
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is like making sure that we finish every year with nine wins. Granted,
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being in the SEC is beautiful because you have like six non conference games it
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feels like, or six home games total, and so there's a good chance
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with what four non con and then the rest, which I think the SEC
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is trying to go to nine. So that takes away one game in which
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if anybody in here was interested in Betlam coming back, good luck because we
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got to figure out an opening for that game to even show up, because
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if they go nine, takes away one of your non conference games, which
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means a team like Maine's always gonna be there. You gotta have a cupcake.
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But then it takes away your power five non conference games because like we
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have what once we have three games? You got Houston, Temple, Intu
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Lane as far as power five and then Maine. Yeah yeah, I'm more
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so thinking like your power five for power four? Now your your power four
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and your group of five? What do it be a group of six?
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Now do those two count as a group anyway? Group of five and P
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four teams you got for college football? Yeah, I have no clue.
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I'm confused as to what they're going to figure out, but I know that
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it's so we got Tulane, Houston, and Temple. So two P four's
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and one well no one P four two G five. Uh for now,
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I think to Lane is cann eventually get bumped up, and then you got
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Maine, which is your traditional SEC cupcake game before a major game, which
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we're doing at that's before oh miss. I think, yeah, so that's
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a big one to go with. So Anyway, we got a lot,
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a lot of a lot of people pop it in. What's good? What's
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good? Who is this? Uh? SBC baits, what's up? From
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Rollies will be again? And also what round do you think Drake goes in?
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All right, I'm gonna put a star on that. We'll talk about
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that once we finish the next topic around the coaching rankings. This will be
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next up, So Coop, make sure you keep me honest. We will
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dive into that because that is a very good saving to dive into. So
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So what's up B and and yeah, I'm I mean, listen, let's
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go ahead and see what happens. Because my thought process is, yes,
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it's a money play. Do the teams that can potentially win the national championship
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start getting bigger? No? I really don't think that they did. I
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really think that you're still gonna have your select few teams who win the national
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championship, who have a chance to really win the national championship. I just
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don't see much Cinderella type of situations happening. Like I don't see you know,
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Georgia going up against let's go with I don't know, Tulane and then
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Tulane making a run and winning an anati like that. I feel like,
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what can happen in a basketball and what can happen on the football field completely
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different games. But why do we do this anyway? And why this at
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all? Because you know there is there is you know, we're getting to
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a point right now to where it is let's get everybody a chance, even
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if they really don't deserve a chance. This puts away stuff like the Florida
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state issue we had this year. You know, if we have this the
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year to where TCU and Baylor played in the Big Twelve Championship and they got
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left out there. You go even go back to the one year of actual
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legitimate, mentionable success that Oklahoma State has had in the past thirty where they
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you know, should have probably gone and played Bamham. They don't have that
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to you know, remember back in high school type of conversations. So there's
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a lot good and there's a lot bad. I think that the the semi
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final rounds this year, I guess is it semi final or whatever the second
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round is is you're going to have the Sugar Bowl, the Rose Bowl,
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the Fiesta Bowl, and the Peach Bowl are the first rounds. I know
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that we're you know, working on a couple committees at work, you know,
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trying to put some you know, pretty cool trips around stuff like that,
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and so it's just there's there's a lot of lot to be excited about.
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And I think that the pageantry around this is going to get blown up
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the closer into summer that we get. Right now, everybody's will tied up
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with you know, potential NCAA game coming out, but uh, you know,
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you're gonna see a lot of momentum, a lot of momentum, and
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I can see us having a lot of activities and stuff, like you said,
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wrapped around this, because I mean, it's gonna be fun. The
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best part about the playoffs to me is it's gonna make me think about how
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fun March Madness is. The first weekend, right, the most exciting part
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about watching college basketball is the tournament because in that first weekend, those four
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days always is you always an upset, something crazy is gonna happen, and
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boom, you're gonna have a chance to see some sort of an upset and
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get everybody excited. There's gonna be some games coming down to the wire.
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That's where we gets you going. But then, of course, you know,
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the cream rises to the top, and then your best team to always
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end up in the final four, which we know it's gonna happen here too.
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You know the best team's gonna end up winning it. So your goal
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is gonna be to try to get that first round. By that way,
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it's a lot easier. But coach did, what's good? You're right?
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I think nine. I think nine can get you there. Ten probably is
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gonna be the minimum. You might be right. It just kind of depends
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on how much of a slaughtering do we see in the SEC? Do they
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cannibalize each other because they're gonna find ways to get the SEC into this.
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And the even funnier part is is they were talking about trying to make it
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to where the SEC gets four guaranteed spots. Same thing with the Big ten,
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and then the other the Big twelve, ACC gets two and then you
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just have two left over, and it's like, wait, what, how
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do you have all these guaranteed spot that's gonna help a nine then three team
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somehow get in if you're one of the guaranteed spots for the SEC. Now
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again, it all depends on how the crazy the season gets and if it
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gets cannibalized where everybody loses at least a game, if not two. But
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your goal, of course, is to when every single game possible. All
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So all right, coop, let's talk about this. Coaching rankings came out
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two four seven. Of course I dropped a video. I I didn't lose
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my mind on Warburant Ventibles is located on this like I typically would, but
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there's no reason to before we do that, wipe your feet like and sub
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as well as share why because sharing is caring. Look at this coop.
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You tell me when you see this, how did this make you feel?
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On this rink? Do you remember my answer after our loss to Kansas and
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you're like, hey, I think we're still ranked number eleven in the BCS,
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do you remember my answer? No, I don't. I don't give
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a shit, Like it don't matter. It's going to be the same here
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and here's why. It's really Kirby smart. And then there's a bunch of
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other people. Yeah, like, let's just because hell in the hell are
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you gonna rake? You've got Sarkisian, Josh Iipel drink wits stoops. I
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guess you can say venables like these guys have very very limited coaching, you
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know proud, I mean I as tenure. They've had one good season.
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I mean, if you look at Sark sarks good season was you had everything
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in front of you and you dropped the bag. You know, you look
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at Brian Kelly, nobody knows what the hell Brian Kelly still is after years.
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I don't care if he's still at Notre Dame or whatever. Let's see
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what happens when you don't have a first round draft pick at quarterback. You
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know, I love I love Lane. He is an absolute crazy uncle.
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And we'll see you see missus Durry and Lane. I don't think that we're
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This list won't make sense after this year either. Yeah, and I'll just
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so, Jeff Levy still has not coached a single game, not coached a
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single game, right, and so, no matter how great of a coach
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Nick Saban is, he was doll crap in the NFL. No matter how
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big of a how great of a coach, Bill Belichick was outside of having
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Tom Brady, Belichick was never a guy that knew but a lot of people
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didn't know dude's name. Is that fair? So you're throwing a melding of
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Kirby Smart and a bunch of other guys, I don't. I mean,
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let's let's do this in five years because we have we have a lot of
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guys who are coming into new conferences. I gotta say the list looks pretty
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dope. I mean, this is a pretty nice list. Uh, you
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know, most people don't know who Clark Lee is. And I think that
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Billy Napier has the strongest down trending arrow, you know, emoji next to
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his name, but he really does. But I mean, like, how
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are you going to elevate Kaylen d Boer up here and where he's at by
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taking over Alabama? Like we all, how do you lose the best coach
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potentially in history. I don't care who's the next guy, Like he hasn't
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done those things yet. So but you elevate Kaylen de Boer for taking a
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great program and he's done great at Washington and now he's stepping in here.
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This is a different game. You're not playing Stanford, You're not playing Arizona
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State. You're not going to play cal You're going to play Georgia. You're
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going to play Oklahoma, You're going to play Texas. You're gonna like those
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are your bigger games, right Whereas I mean you're potentially playing Oregon. Uh
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So you got kalin Is elevated, but Dad Elko is sitting there at a
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number eleven with zero elevation when he has done the same thing at Duke Elko
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has done at Washington well, so now I disagree with you there one hundred
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percent. Du Boor went to the national championship with the Washington team that had
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much less talent in Texas. Let's be real, like, I don't even
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care how the pack play. They beat Texas, And this, I think
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is the thing that bothered me with this. If I'm putting the list like
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you said, you're right on this, it's Kirby Smart and the Pips at
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this point, like we don't know, sure, Brian Kelly's twenty and seven
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in his first two years there at LSU. But cool, cool story,
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right? Why is the boar behind Sarkisian and Kellen de Boor is two and
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zero versus Texas? Right, And that's the last two years. That's the
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thing I didn't get. If I'm putting sark anywhere, I'm putting him five.
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I will gladly put kellend board number two. And I only give it
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to him there because yes, he's taking over for Nick Saban and unfortunately for
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him, he's following the goat, but he's got more talent there than he's
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ever had at Washington or San Diego to anybody else he's been like Kellen is
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I think Kellen's legit, but the fact that he's beaten Sarkisian twice on neutral
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site Alamobo as well as in the playoffs, yet he kind of should be
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up there. He should be ahead of sark At this point. Alabama lost
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some talent. They didn't lose everything, right, They still got a lot
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of those blue chippers that Sabing and them brought in. He's still got Freddie
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Roach, so he's gonna have a good defensive line, he's still got some
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folks. The bigger thing from into board, I want to see what he
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looks like with Milrok. But your point is right, Elko. What sucks
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for him is he was a part of that Texas A and M regime before
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he left and went to Duke that actually they were actually decent. That twenty
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twenty team was like what nine and two, So he kind of should get
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a little bit more love than what he's getting. But he's also taken over
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a true dumpster fire. I mean, they lost every single five star from
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that historical class that they had, you know, so they've got a lot
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to clean up there. But at the same time, last point, this
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is off season, so we've got to have some it's off season banter.
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It's exactly, it's off season. And you know, and I went on
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with Jason at Hall of Fame and he definitely messed my list up because I
26:48
think I had Brent Vinables right in the middle, and I think he is
26:51
extremely fluid to go one way or the other. Like, is it in
26:55
two years could Brent Vinnables be number one? Sure? Could he not be
26:59
on this? Sure? You know, I don't. I'm not a big
27:03
doom pod guy, but I think that this is a big season where a
27:07
lot can go one way or the other. And at Oklahoma you don't have
27:11
to have a crap season in order to have a bad season. In Oklahoma.
27:15
You could have again a nine to three too many times in a row
27:18
and you're gonna get shown the door. Same thing at Bamaday. You're right,
27:22
you're right, which is the same thing here. But you know,
27:25
one thing I do want to kind of point out, which which is kind
27:26
of crazy, Like you look at this list and like, let's go with
27:32
you know, Vanderbilt, I don't know if they're ever going to put a
27:33
coach on the hot seat. I mean, you got to basically lose like
27:36
more games than you played to get fired at Vanderbilt, but it like,
27:41
yeah, but you know, let's look at Clark Lee could potentially not be
27:47
there next year, Jeff Levy, that could go one way or the other.
27:49
And if he doesn't, I mean that he's got two years to like
27:52
show something in you know, in Mississippi, because if he doesn't, Starkfield
27:57
will all of a sudden go you know what. Uh, there's a lot
28:00
of love here for our football team and this saint where it's going. And
28:03
I think that we're gonna see We're gonna see a lot more people ready with
28:07
a quick hook now because I feel like with the way the NIL is now
28:12
the twelve team playoff, I feel like you're gonna see a different type of
28:18
hot seat. You're gonna see programs who are like, here's the deal.
28:21
If you can't make it in the twelve team playoff after a three year window,
28:25
you're gone. And yeah, it's not just blue bloods because guys,
28:30
I still think the dumbest damn firing in the history of college football was Frank
28:36
Solich. I think it was the absolute worst firing ever because they haven't had
28:41
that. I mean, they were like, we went nine to three two
28:42
years in a row. And now I promise you you go up to Lincoln,
28:47
Nebraska, and there's not going to hand in the lap of say who
28:49
wants to go nine to three this year? Every single one of them would
28:52
take that. And then you have the same thing with Mac Brown. Right,
28:56
Texas hasn't truly been back since Mac Brown left. Same thing, a
29:00
couple of nine to three seasons, a couple eight and fours, and then
29:03
obviously it went south, really really big. So I say this in the
29:07
sixteen people here, I think damn near everybody outside of Kirby Smart could be
29:15
gone in two years with the wrong sample size. No, and and that's
29:21
not You're not wrong that I can see jobs being It's crazy, but that's
29:27
the world of college football. And what's even worse about it is those buyouts.
29:30
Some of these coaches are hoping to get fired Bills probably he's fired me.
29:36
That's thirty to sit at the crib right. A lot of these situations,
29:41
they might not even have to try to find jobs, like like Jimmy
29:45
Sexton has negotiated some of the best contracts ever. But real quick, Lemon,
29:49
I totally get this statement. But less Miles is the worst one.
29:55
The reason why Placing he got lazy, right, he wouldn't fire was a
30:02
camp Cameron, his offensive coordinator. If you just just fired him, like
30:04
five years earlier, probably been okay. But he was comfortable that. That
30:08
seems to be the l s U thing. It's like you go there,
30:12
you win a Natty, you get super comfortable, which is the last two
30:15
because Saban wasn't like that. Saban actually had aspirations, so that's why he
30:18
went to the NFL. But it gets super comfortable and then they love and
30:22
then they just like stopped working. Like at Ojeron was having women at practice
30:26
calling plays like who does that? Well? At Oon does that? Did
30:30
I tell you all about the time I saw it ozon uh in Vegas?
30:34
I tell you at the time tis Yeah, I saw Ojeron in Vegas last
30:44
year while I was out there from March Madness. Tell me about that.
30:48
Yeah, it seemed like nothing had changed for him with who he had with
30:52
him. But anyway, I digress. I need to want to jump outside
30:57
of that. So the Boors should be ahead of Sarkisian Lane Kiffin. First
31:02
time in ole Mis's history they got an eleven win season. He's been pretty
31:04
consistent. The question is is when is the scandal gonna happen. He's gonna
31:08
lose his job. He has that tendency. That's just who he is.
31:12
Hypel's had two decent He had two solid season, a nine win and a
31:15
ten win season at Tennessee, something Tennessee ain't sinked in forever. So now
31:19
we'll see what Nico looks like. I don't understand to drink at seven.
31:25
He had one good year and he's been there for four years. That's trying
31:30
to I was trying not to make it about this, but but I love
31:34
this that everybody's in here saying how weird he is, like drinking so cringe
31:37
by dominic that's one hundred percent, But who wants to play for him?
31:41
Like why, I'm just I'm just saying that, Like I want to know
31:45
if there's legit a legit count of like times that drink has been walking around
31:49
a parking lot talking on a cell phone, like outside of a school,
31:52
and he's got like sex trafficker reports called in on him, because I mean,
31:57
he kind of kind of looks like he puts lotion in the basket.
32:02
So I'll digress on this Yeah, let's move on to the next thing on
32:07
that. But no, this is one hundred percent true on that's hilarious that
32:10
he does look like he really does look like that all the time. I
32:15
know way he celebrates is but you're right, Dominic, this is this is
32:17
the thing that I preached when I made the video is I'm fine with Venables
32:22
between seven and ten. The only thing that helps Venables is that he's won
32:27
two Natty He's won three Natties everywhere he's been an assistant, and he's been
32:30
underneath some legendary coaches. We're starting to see the OU defense rankings wise and
32:37
efficiency trend in the Brent Vinables way. When he got to Clemson, they
32:40
were pretty bad. The next year they moved up into the thirties, and
32:44
in the year after that they were the top defense in college football, or
32:47
at least top five defensive college football. That is one of those I think
32:52
that Venables at the point that he's starting to trend up for that, and
32:55
next year the defense with seventy four percent of production coming back, that defense
33:00
shows up like that, like we we sense it's going to boa Vinnables is
33:05
going to be moving into top five easily because he'll have the defense needed and
33:09
all we gotta do is Masha Jackson Nald goes out there and do what we
33:13
anticipate he should do to show out. So I think it's fair for Venables
33:17
is y'all can hop in the comments send me. I think this is a
33:20
fair spot by Dominic. You made the great point. No matter what,
33:22
we still got to prove ourselves and I am totally okay with us doing that.
33:29
It's like again, Brent Vinnables. I will say this, Brent Venables
33:34
can be fighting for number one in two to three years or he could not
33:37
be the coach at Oklahoma. I feel, I mean, I fully believe
33:40
that it does not matter. You know, I had an employee one time
33:46
and any type of like, you know, correction, any type of like
33:51
you know, you know, talk about a job performance and thing like that.
33:53
He said the right words all the time. He had a structure,
33:58
he had everything set up, but when it came time to the sheet showing
34:02
what the sales looked like, there was nothing there. So Brent Vinnables can
34:07
do everything from a coachal standpoint and all this, and he could have all
34:10
the right things and he could just not press the right buttons in game.
34:15
And you see it with the Big twelve in basketball right now, when you
34:20
have such an awesome lineup of coaches and you make a couple wrong choices,
34:25
you know, decisions as a coach, you can't come back from that.
34:30
And that's how it's going to be. Again. That being said, I
34:36
fully believe that this year we have a full on This is the full on
34:40
opportunity. This is like coming into this year when we saw OU ranked a
34:44
number nineteen, you know, preseason, I'm fine for it. Let's go
34:49
out and prove it again. You said it. Our defense and what we
34:52
were returning is something that I am extremely excited about because you have a baseline
35:00
knowledge of this is what our defense is going to look like. And you
35:02
also have an influx of pretty dad gum sweet talent, if I may say,
35:07
And that's coming in. And so now you have guys, you have
35:13
young, high hopes guys pushing experienced defensive guys on the other side, and
35:22
you're gonna see energy and intelligence and if everything is right in that defensive line
35:28
room, everything's right now backfield defensive backfield guys like that, we're going to
35:34
see defense with Oklahoma football, legitimate all year round defense and that has me
35:38
excited. Same. Thanks right here from Mike asson the Legends podcast. Go
35:45
check him out. He drops some legendary stuff. Thanks my man. So
35:50
you're okay with BV spot at the moment. I appreciate that. Thank you
35:53
for the two bucks. We appreciate always of love. It's a cowboy.
35:57
I actually like this. This is a very good point. We lose one
36:00
to four games, we got questions. If we lose three, question is
36:05
who do we lose to? And that that's fair, and then going into
36:08
two losses we should be in the playoffs and then one yep, playing the
36:12
Natty. I have one hundred percent agree with you that lineup's that's spot on
36:16
because that's what I see when it comes to based on who we've got to
36:21
play against. Not too many questions about, you know, those other games
36:24
we've broken down the schedule, like literally the only teams that I have concerns
36:29
about truly, it's on the road at LSU because it's on the road and
36:32
it's the last game of the season. I have a little bit of concerns
36:37
around the Old Mess game and maybe red River. The rest of the games.
36:39
Nah, we should have no problem with that, just because of the
36:42
way our defense is now. Red River, honestly, they're third on the
36:45
list for me. As far as concerns too, they're not. I don't
36:47
see anything about them that makes me say, oh, I'm just terrified.
36:52
The bigger thing is is what does Jackson Arnold look like in these warm up
36:54
games the first three games of the season. If he looks good in the
36:58
warm ups, yeah, I think we're fine. And we have what the
37:02
considered second hardest schedule in college football is what we were listened as, right
37:07
behind Florida. Yeah, if we come out of that double digits, dot,
37:14
I don't care if anybody says Rerevnables should be up there for Coach of
37:16
the Year, he should be considered top five in conference I gotta do.
37:21
If we win ten games, definitely should be top because that's a gauntlet,
37:24
that's a tough that's a tough schedule, and the road games are tough ones.
37:30
With Auburn and Ole miss and LSU and Missouri, there are games that
37:36
you gotta, you know, really think about. So yeah, ten,
37:39
Yeah, I think We'll be fine on that one. So all right,
37:45
Coop, let's jump on this one. I actually like this question from sbce
37:52
Baits. I like this question. So following Rowlee, so only players that
38:00
left to enroll is epl and Tatum if I'm correct? Is there anybody else
38:07
that I'm missing here? I'm thinking so I can apologize everybody. Thank you.
38:13
We had somebody who just came over so right in the front door.
38:15
But yeah, it's it's the the fall sports guys, the track stuff.
38:21
So I think you've got Nesta was here working out here. Do you know
38:27
is he here good for good? Because yeah, I think he's here for
38:30
good. I don't think he's playing. I don't think he's playing. Seeing
38:32
your high school baseball, I'm gonna I think I'm gonna maybe try to drop
38:37
a hint and without dropping a hint, without saying this, but there's a
38:42
lot of reasons why potential portal transfers didn't happen. Guys. It isn't just
38:47
like a you know what, let's just make this, let's just let's just
38:52
I just want to switch. I think McCarty might be one of them.
38:54
McCarty might be one that's not here too. But if you do a if
39:04
you do you know, if we get the opportunity to keep doing the two
39:07
sports stars we're going to run into this, but there's a situation with one
39:13
potential transfer that the way that where they are at the school year doesn't line
39:17
up exactly with what we're doing here. And you know, it's why we
39:22
got Lance Mitchell way back in the early two thousands. So sometimes there's some
39:25
pieces like that that happened. And then you know, if you're running track
39:31
or playing baseball in school and a guy like Taylor Tatum, he's going to
39:36
be doing that. So I mean, that's that's why he's not here with
39:40
EPL was he also doing track too? I think he's doing some sort I
39:45
think he's doing something in track, but I know that he's not here.
39:47
I know that he's not here yet. I know Reggie Powers is oh koye.
39:54
Actually, you know what, let me just pull this up so everybody
39:57
can kind of see as I scroll through this, and I'll say, I'm
40:00
trying to get I'm trying to get the Danny or Nigel or one of the
40:04
guys to come back. You know, kind of let us know, a
40:07
couple weeks before the spring game, what's been going on, Like who looks
40:09
good? I mean, the life is is changing for these cats, and
40:15
it's cool to kind of talk to them about this. So, oh yeah,
40:17
it's fun. So of course Stone is here, We've seen him in
40:20
his pictures. Tatum's not so as as only Khuno has pointed out, Taylor
40:25
Tatum is the big name. It's the only one that's not here. I
40:29
know, Zion's here from Craig Eugene Brooks is here, sing Tim Koye.
40:32
Of course Powers is here, Nigel Smith is here, Fawn is here,
40:37
carry On is here, and I man hearing great things about him. Michael
40:40
Hawkins, Hardy Jackson, Nesta from Kreik Nest is here. I think I
40:47
saw him go from and this was like in the middle of January. He
40:52
went from football workout to baseball workout or vice versa, one of the two.
40:55
So I think he is here. Uh, Jeremiah umb the one I
41:00
don't know. I think he is here. It's said so only is saying
41:06
that. kJ Daniels, Devin Jordan, Let's sen, Jeremiah Newcomb, Patterson
41:10
McDonald, Reagan's and Tatum I think is not here. Newcomb's not here.
41:21
I thought Mike Keill was, but probably I could see that. I know
41:24
he well, he's probably just on campus kicking it on the regular basis.
41:27
Zion's not here, yes, and Jordan there you go makes sense, makes
41:30
sense? And then is here yep, hopefully watching you know here's right now
41:40
is not where you're right. Right before spring is when they usually like to
41:45
do these do the games as far as like the plus's you know, weight
41:51
gains and stuff like that. So we should here hear more of that coming
41:53
out. I think this we get closer to the spring game, you know,
41:57
we're gonna have some opportunity to you know, hear a little bit about
42:00
that. But uh, trust me, it's you get these guys on and
42:06
if you're a So we have a lot defensively coming back, right, we
42:09
have a lot of We have a lot offensively to be I mean, if
42:14
if we're just going to doom pod, it's all going to teeter on our
42:16
offensive line. If it's if our offensive line is a sieve and Jackson Arnold's
42:23
running the entire year, we got bad bad times coming. If the offensive
42:30
line is poor, then we're gonna have a lot of frustrations that we can't
42:36
push over the edge into games. If the offensive line holds it own,
42:42
holds its own. That's where I think that we're pushing that nine to three.
42:45
If our offensive line looks like it's actually got a chance and continues to
42:49
get better and takes that six weeks but continues to get better, you know
42:53
we're going to go to the playoffs, and but we just may not have
42:57
the opportunity to do anything big. So you've got We've got a lot that's
43:02
going on there. I think the rest if we had the offensive line we
43:06
had coming into this year, going into next year, I think this is
43:10
a top five team can be. It can and with with the production we're
43:17
bringing back on defense. And then, like you said, the one question
43:24
is the offensive line. And as mentioned here, i've heard, of course
43:30
the saying the old line interior wise sounds like it's gonna be really, really
43:36
good. And there's some players that are abusing and looking really good. And
43:44
so I'm not concerned about the offensive line. Like everybody I put it like
43:46
this, I'm not concerned about the offensive line, just like I wasn't concerned
43:49
too much about the wide receiver room. I mean, Bill beatingbow Is always
43:52
figured it out. If I always targeted particular players specific types and they get
43:58
them in there and then you notice, oh wait, there's some athletic freaks.
44:00
Wow, this is ridiculous, and they do it like I went back
44:06
the other day and looked at my video on Tyler Goyton, one of the
44:10
first videos I really made and really getting into the game right, and boy,
44:16
comment section there brutal, brutal, brutal. People was looking at talk.
44:25
I don't know what you excited about him? Fo, he looks horrible.
44:29
What's so good about him? He's about to be drafted first round?
44:32
I mean, in all honesty, was he a tight end? Was he
44:37
a quarterback? He was? He came into college as a defensive lineman,
44:42
moved to tight end because he's an athletic freak. He really is. And
44:45
he barely he caught one touchdown, but he barely played. He played h
44:49
back a little bit at TCU and then we got him. We put his
44:52
but at that right at that tackle, and you're like, oh wait,
44:55
he is good, like good goods And and to be honest with you,
45:04
what's crazy about this is I bet you going into the draft I thought Cody
45:09
Ford was going to be an perenneal All pro MM hmm. If you asked
45:15
me going into the end of the season for Anton Harrison last year or even
45:21
Geydon this year, like I'm happy that they're going to get drafted high,
45:25
and you know, we can throw some cloud on it, but it's like
45:28
I just didn't believe that either that Anton Harrison was going to be a good
45:31
tackle in the NFL. He killed it this year, you know, yeah,
45:38
yes, Now, Creed, I mean, listen, the Jags had
45:42
other issues, but Creed Humphrey, even though he had some issues snapping the
45:45
ball in the Super Bowl, Creed Humphrey is now. I mean, he
45:51
is pressing for the best center in the league. If Kelsey leaves that argument
45:54
pretty much is a moot point from this point going forward. I think he's
46:00
I think he is dope. You look at Trent Williams, a silver back.
46:02
Dude may be the best player to come out of Oklahoma in the past
46:07
thirty years. There's a legit chance, which is crazy to say when you've
46:10
got like Adrian Peterson existing in Tommy Harris as well as even Gerald McCoy.
46:15
That is the wildest thing, and it's so true. It's it's so true.
46:20
I promise you the casual fan doesn't know Trent Williams went to Oklahoma.
46:24
I mean just literally doesn't and and so but I digress. I just got
46:32
to I gotta say this last piece, Like you absolutely, you absolutely have
46:40
so many really really really good opportunities with great coaches on this staff. And
46:46
so if we see Ali come in and do this. But something that you
46:51
said was last year, I didn't have any issues with receivers because I trusted
46:55
you didn't know a damn thing about Emmatt Jones going into Lotlast year, you
47:00
and I made this, had this talk multiple times. You knew nothing,
47:04
and you had a little bit of trust in the receiving group. Yep.
47:07
Now going in it's like, if we ever have an issue at receiver ever
47:09
again with him still here, something's going to happen, something's wrong receiver and
47:16
it's still Yeah, but if you were a beating ball hater or if you're
47:22
a beating boul lover, I say this, just look at what's going on.
47:28
I mean, Janier Morris is dumping gatorade to win the Super Bowl,
47:31
and Andy Reid and as a rookie, he actually started gett seeing some game
47:37
late in the season, so you know, a lot, a lot like
47:40
they like Oklahoma guys. But yeah, it's it's we got it. We
47:46
got to relax. Now we're going into the SEC. Please please, folks,
47:51
just just just keep this in mind. The SEC. We've said this,
47:58
so if you're just a random person walking this for the first time,
48:00
I love you. Thank you for being here. We are so excited to
48:02
have you here. Most of the SEC SEC crap comes from people that are
48:09
not in the are in fan bases like Vanderbilt and South Carolina and Texas,
48:15
A and M and all these places. They ain't coming out of Georgia.
48:19
It ain't coming out of Alabama. I know that we're going to the SEC.
48:22
I know that there's a jump up, but I fully believe this is
48:27
we are going to have the opportunity to slow it down. Gay Biker talked
48:30
about it a little bit. Is when you push, you push the tempo,
48:34
temple tempo like we did this year, that is your only chance to
48:37
mask and that's that's that's your card, that's the one up the sleeve,
48:42
that's your thing. That's what we have to have that opportunity to do.
48:45
They're like, we're not going to do that. We are going to slow
48:47
the ball down a little bit more. It is not going to be so
48:51
RPO heavy, which our PO heavy offense makes it harder for a lot of
48:57
people to look at our offensive alignment and go, I think this is a
49:01
good idea to draft this guy or not, because offensive lineman and the r
49:05
P O it is it is look what's around you and kind of just give
49:10
us your best guess. Because in my blocking for the run am I downs
49:15
I'm not sure this is going to be great. It's the the the the
49:20
progress of this offensive line, I fully believe because of the opportunity to back
49:23
off on the r PO, to slow it down a little bit, to
49:28
actually work on our offensive efficiency. Use that line and run blocking is the
49:34
easiest thing for being about to go up there and say, guys, we're
49:37
not getting a couple of things. Why don't we just put our hands in
49:39
the dirt and go kick the ass of the person across from you. If
49:43
you do that, these guys are gonna start growing. That's what I sense
49:46
to that all it's going to take is beating bow looking at him saying just
49:52
just go win when you're battle in front of you, and I think we'll
49:53
be fine with that, and James makes a good point we slow it down,
49:57
which we will. I can see. I can see a good season
50:00
out of us now, Dominic, you make a good point here. This
50:02
is kind of what I was thinking about in a way, is but I
50:06
don't think it's gonna be o line that holds us back, right, And
50:09
y'all, y'all ain't gonna want to hear this. I'm gonna be honest,
50:14
y'all not gonna hear this. I want to hear this. But I think
50:16
our progression this year falls in only one hand Jackson Arnold. He's coming in
50:23
as a true sophomore, so the question is gonna be I don't question if
50:30
he's ready. I think that he has the capabilities of it. As long
50:34
as he goes out there and plays as much mistake free football as possible.
50:38
Yes, I think we'll be just fine. Now. We saw glimpses of
50:42
it in the Arizona game. Midway through it what I think we'll probably see
50:45
most of the season. Think that beginning and end. I don't think that
50:50
that will be him. But at the same time, those are tendencies we
50:52
gotta keep our eyes open for. But I don't think that we'll see that
50:53
most of the time, so I think we'll be fine there. And so
50:57
Jimmy, you asking a question around. I actually saw a couple people asking
51:00
a rout about our boy Ali. How is he doing? I mean,
51:06
so far, it looks like he's got recruits liking him, and I mean
51:08
he's little Brent, so I don't think that he's gonna be I think that
51:15
I think we'll see what it looks like we started to bring in recruits,
51:17
Let's put it that way. I'm waiting to see what it looks like on
51:20
the recruiting trail practice. I can't what I've heard is that it ain't much
51:27
change with him being there because honestly, who's really running the linebacker room right
51:31
now? It's probably Ventables. They're his dudes, right He's a linebacker by
51:36
trade, he's CEO in it, but he's probably still involved in the linebacker
51:39
side because that's just who he is. But Zach's probably gonna we'll have to
51:43
see what Zach looks like come spring game. I think closer to the spring
51:45
game, we'll probably hear a few more reports or conversations. Actually, when
51:50
they got more availability to the media, because I haven't heard any players talk
51:53
about them much either, besides that they he reminds them of Enables. That's
51:57
I think that's the only thing I've heard on one of the red dirt rams
52:00
or whatnot. So, but Ali is gonna be a fun one. Speaking
52:05
of coaches, let's go ahead jump into this real quick as soon as it's
52:07
add another coach. We have a special team's core no coordinator analyst on staff
52:15
now in Doug Deacon who was over at San Diego State. He was there
52:20
for seventeen years from tight end coach to special teams. Right, so we've
52:27
got a guy that experienced on the special team side. If you remember the
52:30
punt God, the dude that would punt the ball like ten million yards.
52:35
Guess what he's here, right, and real quick, thank thank you so
52:40
much for the twenty dollars. We appreciate it. As you stay very excited
52:45
about the coming season, we will be a telltale sign of what this team
52:47
and BV can do. Boomer sooner, baby, one hundred percent. You
52:51
are right that, my friend, is what we have to kind of be
52:58
patient with and waiting see what it turns out to be, because that's really
53:01
what what everything's gonna look like it is what it's gonna tell us everything is,
53:05
what this season is, is how we do going into this year.
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But I don't want to judge everything on this year. I think for who
53:14
mentioned this actually only Kun I think you may have mentioned this before too.
53:16
But twenty twenty fives the year. If there's a year to look at,
53:22
Koop, twenty twenty fives the year, that's when just about everybody's season.
53:28
Well, we'll we'll lose the three defensive guys, but everybody else will be
53:31
juniors and seniors at that point. Twenty twenty fives a year, everybody's really
53:36
circling Jackson. I don't have two years under his belt all of that.
53:39
Right, So, new coach, how'd you feel about the special teams analysts
53:43
coming in Cooke? How'd you feel about that? You know, we always
53:49
wonder do does all of our bitching on Twitter and complaining to each other and
53:55
on message boards and who who has said i' must stop right there? I
54:07
think that they hurt us, like they're severe, Like everybody was frustrated about
54:12
Rufe, you know, because it's like, hey, it's time for Pops
54:15
to have his medicine and go to bed like, it's it's just that time,
54:20
so I listen, it is what it is, And so that got
54:24
changed with zach Ally. Zach Ally coming in the number one reason why I
54:30
think that this is going to be such a phenomenal success is he knows what
54:36
Brent wants. But zach Ally doesn't have to walk into the linebacker room and
54:39
earn those guys respect. He was. They were probably issued some respect to
54:45
hand over to him from BB before he arrived. But you can't tell me
54:50
that Danny Stutsman as that leader that that group, Cannick as his you know,
54:57
as his little brother, and then Kip and co be like those guys
55:01
want to be phenomenal and they are probably working it is. It is great
55:07
to have such experience in leadership in that area to bring I mean, to
55:12
bring Ali in and to be like, hey, listen, let's work.
55:15
Let's you know that open conversation. If that was a bunch of freshmen who
55:19
were recruited by another guy, I think that that could be a big issue.
55:22
But since it is experience, it is older guys coming in with the
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dude who is going to who is Brent Vinnable's like little guy like and no
55:30
offense, you know, says to Zach like it's going to be great on
55:37
the special teams. That was an issue. Right ever since that Dan Burrito,
55:40
this has just been absolutely terrible. There has been nothing good about any
55:45
type of that. So I am going to say, listen, we're gonna
55:51
have somebody who's in there. He's got great, great experience. You know,
55:53
obviously he's he worked under Chuck Long because I think Chuck Lung would have
55:58
probably been in right at the beginning of his seventeen year tenure. And so
56:05
yeah, I mean this is this is great. I mean, they're adding
56:07
coaches to focus in on that. I think that as long as you can
56:10
have space for the coaches on the sideline, you can hire as many as
56:14
you want or whatever the rule is nowadays. But I think I might be
56:19
hired as one of the other analysts here soon too, so you know,
56:22
I'll be the game day atmosphere coordinator. But anyway, Yeah, we got
56:30
new guys, you know, Brent Ventables just continuing to do more and more
56:32
and more. We haven't talked about it, but the Curtis Lofton and all
56:37
that issue. This program is being put together and with the details and some
56:42
of the things that are coming in. If you have any wavering about BVS,
56:45
like how can he manage a program? He's doing things that nobody's ever
56:51
done before here, and he's doing him well, and he's doing it looks
56:55
pretty well put together. So I think that we've he's got he's got great
57:00
mentors between Barry and Bob. So, I mean you got to think that,
57:05
like if BB did something and Barry and Bob were against it, I
57:08
think that those two guys have that relationship, they would cody him and be
57:12
like, hey, explain your thinking around this one there, Brent. So
57:16
I'm looking looking happy because if we turn around and improve and become a top
57:23
ten defense and a damn kicker or punter, is the reason why we lose
57:28
something and kind of get screwed, I'm gonna be upset. Yeah, I'll
57:32
be pretty pretty mad as well if that's what causes us to lose. But
57:37
the good thing is is that we're bringing in a dude that has a lot
57:40
of experience, been doing this for a while. And the bigger thing is
57:45
is that I mean, as an analyst, what that means comparison to being
57:49
especially uds coordinator, which he was at San Diego State. Is that he
57:52
can't really communicate with the players during the game, like he can't be on
57:54
the sideline calling stuff, but they'll have an actual plan. My thing about
57:59
him is putting the right people out there that need to be out there.
58:04
That's the most important thing. If you have the right people out there,
58:07
we'll be just fine. That's the struggle part, right. And yeah,
58:12
he'll have some tricks and stuff or whatnot. He'll probably do a really good
58:15
job of recruiting kickers and punters and bringing us hopefully another punk god that would
58:20
be fun to have. But the big thing is is having a do like
58:22
this that actually knows special teams well and actually had some high rate. I
58:29
mean his on the ESPN's efficiency rating on special teams efficiency top five the last
58:34
three years, so he's doing the job. We need bad bad special teams.
58:44
Yeah, fair, that's a fair point there. Having bad special teams
58:50
is a good sign of being a national title caliber as Florida State as well
58:53
as Bama. I mean, that's not wrong, but I would like to
58:57
have a kick returner and a kick return set up to where we can have
59:00
like a dude like for Roup be out there and be like Peter Warrick and
59:02
just juke people out and go. We need to be able to put some
59:06
guys that need to return the ball. Put the right people back there,
59:09
like I've been hearing, like Peyton Bowen is a name that a lot of
59:12
people would like to see as a return man. That concerns me, I
59:15
don't. I don't know. So if PB wants to go back there,
59:20
I will one hundred percent let him have his run. He was. That
59:22
was one of the main things I was excited about about his recruitment was that.
59:27
And then you know, because again and I believe, so there's James
59:32
so Sooner Legends podcast. If you got we kind of mentioned this earlier.
59:37
If you guys go give him, go give him a look at see because
59:42
one of the really really cool things that he does is, you know,
59:45
he'll ask, what do you want to hear about? And I told him,
59:49
Hey, put to Antonio Perkins three punt return day because I was there
59:52
that game and it was electric because he had three somewhere in the third quarter
59:59
and punted two to three more times afterwards, and every everybody's holding the number
1:00:04
four in the air. Everybody's going crazy. You know, he didn't get
1:00:07
anywhere near breaking the fourth one, but every single attempt at tackle looked like
1:00:13
it was a shoe string tackle, even though it was like targeting, you
1:00:16
know, but it was. That was one of the most exciting things,
1:00:21
like going back and you know, the beginning of my days and you know,
1:00:24
shout out again and Barry still watching. The reason why I love those
1:00:29
two thousand receivers between Savage and Wolfolk and Mackie was in Josh Norman was because
1:00:37
of those guys willing to go back and return to. Savage was a phenomenal
1:00:42
kick returner. J T. Thatcher was an amazing punt returner. Like now,
1:00:45
like the special teams runs out and it's not only that, like it's
1:00:51
not only that shit we failed on offense, but then you're like, oh
1:00:53
crap, and we suck at special teams like it was terrifying. So and
1:01:00
Dominica, I love you, man, but I feel like our safety room
1:01:04
is so strong right now that like that's a place we could afford or a
1:01:08
for Ruke going out there, which I'm okay with, or even like a
1:01:14
that's where I'm at. I don't mind if Ruke. I don't know.
1:01:16
I don't. Honestly, I don't want Bowen because I want bowing to play
1:01:20
more defense, like that's how talenty is. I want him to be especially
1:01:24
when he Yeah, when Bowen does things, it's great. So I'm just
1:01:30
thinking, like, do we have the safeties to have him out there between
1:01:36
powers and between uh you know, Bowman and Robert Spears, Jennings and Heart,
1:01:44
Like we've got so many bodies there, like Peyton Bowen may never Peyton
1:01:50
Bowen may have like thirty five starts by time he leaves ou because he's going
1:01:53
to be bouncing around on so many different things. And you said, Brendan
1:01:59
Thompson, The only reason why I don't like Brandon Thompson is he weighs about
1:02:02
one hundred and twenty pounds, and I'm feel like, I feel I feel
1:02:07
like Farrouke is more built for that. You know, Alex ross I saw
1:02:10
that there was also who was It helped me everybody in the chat, Jay
1:02:15
who was the punt returner. He was a wide receiver in his name,
1:02:21
but I believe his tray it's not Matwire because he was the win exposure guy.
1:02:27
Trey who when did he it was Trey? It was it Trey Franks.
1:02:31
Oh, Dominique Franks. No, no, no, I think it
1:02:35
was Trey. But he always tripped over like a taller blade of grass.
1:02:39
I feel like he could never get out of his own way. Like we've
1:02:44
been looking for a dominant kick returner punt returner for a long time. It's
1:02:49
been a while. Like Ceedee Lamb was returning punts. Guys, do you
1:02:52
guys remember this freaking Ceedee Lamb's returning punts at one point, Yeah, he
1:02:58
was, and it was Dominique Franks is one that we had. I know
1:03:00
that he works now at TU. He was a dB and I think he
1:03:04
did return punts at one point in his life, which is of course I
1:03:08
got to uh I was DJed. Yes, he returned a lot of punts
1:03:13
in his career. Twenty nine U punt returns for three hundred and something yards.
1:03:17
Yeah, I was. I was very few djaying a wedding and dom
1:03:22
was one of the one of the grooms men, and I just straight up
1:03:27
asked him. I mean, this is obviously a long time ago. I
1:03:30
asked him and I'm like, hey, brother, uh something to someone the
1:03:32
next year and he's like, oh yeah, so uh yeah, I think
1:03:36
I'm going to the NFL, And I remember like knowing if I would have
1:03:39
happened now, I would have been tweeting the shit out of that, yeah,
1:03:44
back in the day. But back in the day, I couldn't.
1:03:46
There's nobody I could really tell. I think I told my boy Cardig and
1:03:50
I tell you so somebody else and I was just like, I don't think
1:03:52
he's ready. And you know, he did pretty well for a while there
1:03:54
for the Falcons, but anyway, it's yeah, I just I don't know
1:03:58
if we want to throw out there like is Freeman the answer? No,
1:04:02
I don't like that at all. I don't like the Freeman issue. I
1:04:08
don't know if there is like a request pedaway opportunity because I mean, yeah,
1:04:12
Jalen Saunders was, I mean, I still remember, but we haven't
1:04:15
had like j Yeah, that's your Perkins and I just can't Broyle's was pretty
1:04:27
good, Yeah, Broils was I miss Perkins though, Park record and stuff.
1:04:33
I miss I miss Perkins. Man. I like, we were given
1:04:38
who is it we were given? We're given Mario Williams, you know,
1:04:43
a lot of crap. But then like he hit the transfer portal and I
1:04:45
thought, man, what if he transferred here, and it's just more of
1:04:48
the same because he had issues, you know, against Utah with the punt
1:04:50
returns, and it's just yeah, it's he. I see Freeman back there,
1:04:56
and and I'm just like, I'm just praying that we don't turn the
1:04:58
ball over. Like imagine just going like holding your breath because you think you
1:05:01
could potentially turn into something like you know, a sixty yard kid from Jinks
1:05:09
played run running back, transferred to Missouri. Mmmm, Jinks. That's a
1:05:20
good question. I can't remember. I know that you had to shark choice
1:05:26
who transferred to Georgia. Georgia and he's coach down in Texas, right,
1:05:32
Oh, it must be Wease. You have the Oese? Uh THEO.
1:05:35
Yeah, yeah, theos of Its a good year. I think I think
1:05:41
he was not THEO. Wasn't a Tulsa guy, the Texas. Oh he's
1:05:46
allan Texas, allan Texas kid. My bad, So no, he's that
1:05:48
it's not him. No, I don't know if we've had a Yeah,
1:05:53
there's Alex Ross way back in the day. Alex Ross. Yeah, Alex
1:06:00
Ross was great. I mean he was a he's a legit four three guy
1:06:03
and he was the next a d from a body type and yeah, yeah,
1:06:12
it wasn't behind Adrian Peterson. Yes, it was Alex Ross because he
1:06:16
played at uh Jinks, Oklahoma and then he went to miss did did Mark
1:06:23
Bradley every day returns? I tell you what, if you asked that question
1:06:26
in the wrong crowd, you could get stabbed. That's funny. It's a
1:06:33
choice of all people that man was. Yeah, it was, yeah,
1:06:43
it is the Yeah, it's yeah, he was. And he was a
1:06:48
high four star guy. And why did you say that? Wait are you
1:06:57
are if we're talking about why would I say that Bradley? Because Bradley is
1:07:03
the one who fumbled the punt return and turned the tide in the National Championship
1:07:09
game against USC. Oh yeah, oh yeah, you guys. I think
1:07:16
that that was like the five minutes later we were down by twenty five.
1:07:20
It was nuts. But yeah, no, Shark Choyce should have stayed.
1:07:25
I mean he was great. I mean just the number of running backs that
1:07:29
you know, we had great expectations for, Like you know, I still
1:07:32
think Ronaldo Works is one of my favorite running backs ever. And he in
1:07:38
middle school. Ronald's a great dude. Yeah, I mean he was never
1:07:41
a starter. But every single time that we needed a momentum shifting something,
1:07:46
you know, a third down, you know something like that, Ronaldo would
1:07:49
you know, Ronaldo would do magic. And so yeah, I love I
1:07:54
mean he was one of my favorites. Roy Finch. Roy Finch is one
1:07:59
that a lot of people say that he is never he was the dude who
1:08:03
never never got his opportunity. But uh, that guy, that guy never
1:08:10
came out of the doghouse. Yeah. And the actual ape, actual AP
1:08:14
was good too. That that is a P. Yeah, the actual a
1:08:17
P. He was actually pretty good. Never understood how Yeah, Jay,
1:08:25
I've just literally turned this into whatso Yeah, we're just gonna we're just guys
1:08:30
here speaking out old running backs from our college names. That's another just yeah,
1:08:34
great things about being But anyway, uh well, we've been rolling for
1:08:43
about an hour. Man, I think I'm we'll have to jump on some
1:08:45
of these other topics on the next one. We've got a lot of stuff
1:08:47
still lined up. We got to talk about. You know, battles is
1:08:50
gonna be going into the spring game because we've got a lot of uh,
1:08:54
we got a lot of players that you gotta keep your eyes on and just
1:08:57
like boy only Kuno mentioned man the running back room, the offensive line is
1:09:05
going to be a lot better than y'all think, and based upon reports,
1:09:09
it's sounding really good again, which that's what I am excited about going into
1:09:15
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