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Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, December 9 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Here's the Jaguars pending the extra point by John Party.
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  Speaker 1: I am god. It is Monday, December nine. This is
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour. Jaguars Happy Hour is presented by Jet
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  Speaker 1: Home Loans and now the broken bones that St. Paul
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  Speaker 1: is referring to. J P. Shadra. Welcome in Jaguars Happy
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  Speaker 1: Hour presented by Jet Home Loans, j P. Shadrick, Tony Vaselli,
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  Speaker 1: Pete Priscoe. In the aftermath of a forty five tin
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  Speaker 1: loss to the Los Angeles Chargers, five consecutive losses for
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  Speaker 1: the Jags, Here's what's coming up on the program today,
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  Speaker 1: will recap that ball game. Of course, the defense seems
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  Speaker 1: like it's done. There's no offensive magic even with Minshew.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna open it up fell draft talk tonight. Officially,
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  Speaker 1: the Jags are eliminated from postseason contention. Social media questions, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: social media questions, AFC South breakdown that will go around
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  Speaker 1: the National Football League. Gentlemen, Good afternoon, Tony, How are you, sir?
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  Speaker 1: I'm good. Pete, how are you? It? Depending? It depends
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  Speaker 1: on part of my life you talk about, like overall,
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  Speaker 1: like life's good. My football life right now not so good.
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  Speaker 1: I'm great. I'm fantastic because you have no loyalty. You
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  Speaker 1: have no loyalty to anyone but yourself. True, true, that
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  Speaker 1: is true. So it's hard to be bad. As long
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  Speaker 1: as you're doing good. As long as everything's going good
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  Speaker 1: for me and my wife, I'm happy. Yeah, you're correct, um, Tony.
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  Speaker 1: That is the worst football team I've ever seen right
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  Speaker 1: there for a five game stretch. Well, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe since n because it's the first teams to lose
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  Speaker 1: five straight games by seventeen or more. Yeah, who was
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  Speaker 1: the last team to do that? Thats who were weren't
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  Speaker 1: very good either, But it's the worst Jaguars team by far. Well. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: if you're expansion team, if you played them, would be
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  Speaker 1: favored by a touchdown. It's shocking. It is shocking how
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  Speaker 1: bad they are. And I mean it's painful to say
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  Speaker 1: because obviously love the team and love the franchise and
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  Speaker 1: all that and and friends on in the building. But
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  Speaker 1: they're bad. I mean, there's no two ways about it.
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  Speaker 1: They are a bad football team right now and there
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  Speaker 1: as we sit here right now, they're the worst team
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  Speaker 1: in the National Football League. Yes, that was gon. Are
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  Speaker 1: they worse than the Bengals. Yes, Bengals are hanging in games.
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  Speaker 1: Yes they are. Tony Dolphins are. Dolphins are hanging in games.
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  Speaker 1: The Giants, we'll see tonight, but they're hanging in games.
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  Speaker 1: Get a quarterback. The Redskins hung around a little bit
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  Speaker 1: with the Packers on the road yesterday. If this Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: team went to play Rogers and that gang in Green Bay, seven,
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  Speaker 1: yeah we are. Yep, that's fair. And the sad thing
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  Speaker 1: about it is they are the worst team in the league,
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  Speaker 1: but they have no chance to get the top overall
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  Speaker 1: pick none. Even if you guaranteed three straight wins, which
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  Speaker 1: somebody said you did, I have no chance. I never
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  Speaker 1: guaranteed three straight wins. We're gonna win three straight, guaranteed
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  Speaker 1: seven straight. I got a text. I got a text
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  Speaker 1: from somebody that said you locked the last three three games.
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  Speaker 1: That's not accurate. I've not locked anything. I said they
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  Speaker 1: would not win again if they continue to play it
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  Speaker 1: this way. Well, you don't have to. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: you don't have to put that little qualifier on the
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  Speaker 1: end of it. They will not win again, is what
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  Speaker 1: just You can stop right there. Okay, fine, that's fine.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna argue that I never whoever told you
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  Speaker 1: that lied little already's in Jacksonville that you know they chirp, Well,
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  Speaker 1: they can chirp all they want. They're chirping. Crap in
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  Speaker 1: your ears what they're chirping. I don't know if I'm
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  Speaker 1: allowed to say that word, but I just didn't. He
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  Speaker 1: just did. So we are we all are in agreement
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  Speaker 1: right now that they're the worst team in the National
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  Speaker 1: Football League right now as they are right now? Yes, yes, yes,
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  Speaker 1: well did they get I mean, so I want to
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  Speaker 1: argue that point. I'm not sure you can't argue that point.
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  Speaker 1: So they've been one. Seventy four to fifty seven is
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  Speaker 1: the score of the last five games. Here's a better question,
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  Speaker 1: because now the season is over, so who cares what
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  Speaker 1: the records already? Moore and some would argue, you'd be
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  Speaker 1: better off having the worst record in the NFL at
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  Speaker 1: this point to get the one number one overall pick
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  Speaker 1: um do that, though, why can't you, Pete, Because the
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  Speaker 1: worst that the Bengals would be would be four, and
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  Speaker 1: they beat the Bengals, the Bengals could lose the next
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  Speaker 1: three and they oh yeah, four, that's right. Yeah, m hmm. Um,
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  Speaker 1: so they can um pete uh. And the Bengals aren't
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  Speaker 1: warning three straights, so it doesn't matter anyways, they play
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  Speaker 1: New England this week. Yeah, they're here's a better question.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know if we can do it on
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  Speaker 1: the radio or not, because I mean it would have
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  Speaker 1: to be it would be tough to do player by player.
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  Speaker 1: Is it the worst roster in the NFL? Well, look,
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  Speaker 1: you can start with the quarterback and compare him to
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  Speaker 1: who's playing for the teams right now right they're not
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  Speaker 1: the Minshoe is not better than Ryan Fitzpatrick right now.
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  Speaker 1: He's not. He's not better than Andy Dalton right now.
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  Speaker 1: He's probably better than Dwayne Haskins right now or as good.
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  Speaker 1: So we're going through the worst teams. These are the
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  Speaker 1: worst team. He is he better than n Eeli Manning
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  Speaker 1: or Daniel Jones? No? Okay, so he started that position.
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  Speaker 1: The only one that's there is that puts you into
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  Speaker 1: conversation with the red Skins. Is the Jackson offensive line
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  Speaker 1: better than Washington's offensive line? Tony, I haven't done the
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  Speaker 1: Redskins this year. If they're okay, they're not good upfront,
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  Speaker 1: they don't have a lot. Actually I did the Redskins
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  Speaker 1: against the Vikings earlier. They weren't bad. They were terrible.
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  Speaker 1: They're all right, all right, but not much difference. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean nothing, Yeah, okay, all right. Running Peterson is
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  Speaker 1: not better than four net. He's hurt again. He's hurt again.
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  Speaker 1: Mcclarin is good, but he's not better than Chark when
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  Speaker 1: he's on the field. So are they are the receiving
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  Speaker 1: corps equal to each other? No, the Redskins are worse,
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  Speaker 1: I think. Okay, tight end, Okay, I don't care who
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  Speaker 1: they have a tight end. They're better the defense. The
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  Speaker 1: defense is much better in Washington, probably at every level. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they had like DAGs had six or seven undrafted guys
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  Speaker 1: on the field every yesterday, including Boy and Avery. But yes, well,
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  Speaker 1: and here's the thing with that, there's only two injuries
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  Speaker 1: on the defense. So it's not like these are guys
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  Speaker 1: who are playing because they have all these injuries. It's
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  Speaker 1: Jack who are the injured guys? Jack and in Harrison well,
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  Speaker 1: and he's he wasn't that good anyways, He's apparently coming
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  Speaker 1: back this week. And Jack wasn't playing very well. Um,
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  Speaker 1: so it might be the worst roster. Well, defensively, it's
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  Speaker 1: certainly the worst roster. You have two major assets, like
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  Speaker 1: we always talk about in Allen and in Gockway, and
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  Speaker 1: clais is a shell of himself now and Boy's okay.
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  Speaker 1: The rest of it is a bunch of who are you?
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  Speaker 1: And you paid and you paid a lot of money
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  Speaker 1: for one of those who are you right now? Well
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  Speaker 1: one of the injured guys? Yeah, and Jack. It's not
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  Speaker 1: a good it's it's it's not a good situation at all. Period.
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  Speaker 1: That's the other thing we were talking about before the show, Tony,
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  Speaker 1: Is it the worst situation in the league right now? Well,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's tough to overcome. The situation would be
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  Speaker 1: the worst situation in the NFL as long as the
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  Speaker 1: Redskins and Daniel Snyder are involved and Bruce Allen, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, as long as long as I mean that
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  Speaker 1: group's kind of doing what they're doing, I think you're
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  Speaker 1: safe to say. It's really it's like, are you thirty
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  Speaker 1: feet way? You cover the league as much as anybody,
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  Speaker 1: do you disagree with? Yeah? I mean I would take
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  Speaker 1: Sean kan over Daniel Snider anything, anybody. Why I would
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  Speaker 1: take Sean Kahn over a lot of owners. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he's not the issue. That's not the issue. Perform a
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  Speaker 1: football standpoint, Bruce Allen isn't better than anything they have there.
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  Speaker 1: But that's not saying much. The other thing is. But
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  Speaker 1: here's the other Me and j P were talking about this.
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  Speaker 1: They at least have a young quarterback they really like
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  Speaker 1: that they draft in the first round. That whether he's
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  Speaker 1: playing to that level, who knows, but that's a guy
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  Speaker 1: they they clearly drafted him with an I on being
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  Speaker 1: the franchise quarterback Jacksonville spent and he's cheap. Jacksonvill spent
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  Speaker 1: all that money on a guy they thought would be
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  Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback and they sat him down. Well, and
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  Speaker 1: that's the tough thing is I mean you, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: saying you're in cap hell or anything or cap jail
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  Speaker 1: as a team, but it's not a great cap situation
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  Speaker 1: here either. I mean, you're gonna have to let it
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  Speaker 1: go a lot of guys, a lot of defensive guys
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  Speaker 1: from a defense that's not playing well to begin with,
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  Speaker 1: because you can't afford them. Um, how do we how
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  Speaker 1: did Pete? I mean, I'm gonna ask you because I
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  Speaker 1: think sometimes for JP and myself and other people on
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguar network that are around it. You can get
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  Speaker 1: too close to it, and it's dangerous because you either
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  Speaker 1: can be blinded or be overly negative like either those
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  Speaker 1: are real possibilities that when you get really close to something. Man,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's human nature. I think we've tried to
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  Speaker 1: be pretty balanced and pretty uh, you know, fair about
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  Speaker 1: how we do this. But Pete, from the distance, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you're sitting, you sitting cover the entire league. You're sitting
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  Speaker 1: Fort Lauderdale, and you kind of at CBS, You're you're
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  Speaker 1: see a wide spectrum and you hear things and you
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  Speaker 1: know things and you talk to people. How did this
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  Speaker 1: team get here? How did it become? We just went
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  Speaker 1: through and let me just recap what we said. We
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  Speaker 1: said it probably is the worst or one of the worst.
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  Speaker 1: Let's not forget worse because it's hard. That's you're splitting
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  Speaker 1: hairs at the bottom. It doesn't matter. But one of
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  Speaker 1: the worst rosters in the NFL. Correct, And how did
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  Speaker 1: how did that happen? Well, it starts with two thousand
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  Speaker 1: and seventeen. Go back to what me and you always say,
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  Speaker 1: Tony being an aberration. That was an aberration and you
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  Speaker 1: say it all the time. I say it all the time.
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna have that season where the ball bounced your way,
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  Speaker 1: two quarterbacks in your division, don't play um, you get
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  Speaker 1: all those things go your way, and that season they were.
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  Speaker 1: Then they got the play off game in Pittsburgh. They
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  Speaker 1: played well and quite prickly, they played well. Okay, I
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  Speaker 1: get it, but you're not you're not telling me how
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  Speaker 1: we got here. I mean, because we we we we're
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  Speaker 1: talking about the aberration. We're talking about now, we're just
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  Speaker 1: talking about players something. How did as as a team.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna move from that aberration
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  Speaker 1: to how it happened. They bought in the Bordles. He
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  Speaker 1: was a mirage, right, so you pay Bordles and you
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  Speaker 1: keep Bordles, and that prevents you from getting a quarterback
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  Speaker 1: for the future. Okay, you had a lot of veteran
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  Speaker 1: free Let's stop. Let's stop there real quickly, because I'm
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  Speaker 1: not sure Bordles was a mirage, because when did we
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  Speaker 1: ever say he was a rookie in fourteen, fifteen or
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  Speaker 1: sixteen did at any point during those times did we
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  Speaker 1: ever think that he was a guy that you could
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  Speaker 1: win a championship with those first three years. No, but
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  Speaker 1: but when they paid them, they clearly thought that okay, okay,
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  Speaker 1: they did okay, keep going all right, So that prevents
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  Speaker 1: you from doing some of the things you need to do. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: you're the draft a quarterback b so then your quarterback
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  Speaker 1: out when he plays like he normally plays, when everything
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  Speaker 1: around him isn't falling into place. The defense, the two
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  Speaker 1: safeties were older free agents that you signed. They had
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  Speaker 1: they started to decline. Off they go. Malik Jackson when
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  Speaker 1: you signed him, that was a good signing by the
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  Speaker 1: end of it, was it a good signing? No? Off
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  Speaker 1: he goes? And now you look at Kelvin Smith left,
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  Speaker 1: not that he was a great player. After Paul pause,
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  Speaker 1: Leslie n left, Paul pause les n f. Then what
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  Speaker 1: do you have? You have hold linebacker. Then all of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden, your draft picks which you you thought were great, Look,
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  Speaker 1: Jal Ramsey, great player. Look what happened? Miles Jackie thought
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  Speaker 1: you stole him in the second round. Now you don't
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  Speaker 1: think you stole him in the second round. So you start,
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  Speaker 1: you know, looking comparing to the defensive players, to the
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  Speaker 1: draft picks that are blown. All of a sudden, your
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  Speaker 1: defense is a disaster. Clay is campbell age crepped in
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  Speaker 1: big problem. He's starting to show it. So that's why
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  Speaker 1: the defense is where it is, right, So let me listen.
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  Speaker 1: I want to just break down and then you go
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  Speaker 1: to the offense. And so basically is what you're saying
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  Speaker 1: is you built a defense. You missed on draft picks
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  Speaker 1: on defense, and you built it to free agency, which
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  Speaker 1: is a short window and age quickly and create cap issues.
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  Speaker 1: Now now you're sitting there paying the price for a
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  Speaker 1: missing draft picks and paying for paying too much. For
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  Speaker 1: not paying too much you always do, but just going
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  Speaker 1: trying to build to free agency. Is that not paying
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  Speaker 1: your draft picks? Okay, that's a that's on the offensive
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  Speaker 1: side of the ball. You what happened was is you
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  Speaker 1: decided you were going to draft a running back forth overall.
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  Speaker 1: There's your first, first, and foremost. That's your number one problem.
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  Speaker 1: And why did they draft the running back running back
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  Speaker 1: forth overall Tony because they thought they had portals. If
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  Speaker 1: they don't believe in Bortles and they don't get caught
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  Speaker 1: up at all, that they don't sign them to the
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  Speaker 1: long term deal and they probably draft Mahomes or Watson
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  Speaker 1: in that spot. And suddenly, now you look at the franchise,
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  Speaker 1: you go, Okay, they still might have an aging defense,
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  Speaker 1: but now they have a quarterback who could carry them
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  Speaker 1: through that defense. And so I think that was part
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  Speaker 1: of the problem. Who whoever in that building and I
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  Speaker 1: have an idea who it was because I know his history.
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  Speaker 1: Whoever in that building wanted the draft letterd for that.
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  Speaker 1: This is not an indictment of Leonard for Net, because
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  Speaker 1: I think he's turned things around. He's become a better player,
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  Speaker 1: and he's become a much better person. But you don't
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  Speaker 1: draft that running back at four when you have an
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  Speaker 1: opportunity to get a quarterback. There's the problem. On offense.
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  Speaker 1: Who was it Pete? Then it was Tom? It was
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  Speaker 1: clearly Tom. I mean I can go back and it
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  Speaker 1: referenced Curtis Enis and and you know they years ago
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  Speaker 1: they were gonna draft Curtis. What was Curtis Enis? He
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  Speaker 1: was a big, physical back who he thought could come
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  Speaker 1: in and pound the football. He didn't get him. He
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  Speaker 1: was infurious that he didn't get him. What was letter
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  Speaker 1: for Net when he drafted him? A big, powerful back,
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  Speaker 1: That's why he drafted him. Yeah, but I mean I think,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, listen, he does. And ultimately, since Tom's been here,
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  Speaker 1: we don't need to know whose decision it was because
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, he has to sign
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  Speaker 1: off on all of this Asians, he's the boss, and
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  Speaker 1: so um that's just that's reality. But Pete, this goes
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  Speaker 1: beyond just that seventeen draft. I mean, that's just three
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  Speaker 1: years ago. Your foundation is built, is supposed to be built.
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  Speaker 1: You're supposed to have depth because over you keep draft
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  Speaker 1: picks for you signed them the second deals you you know,
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  Speaker 1: so the draft is supposed to build you you know,
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  Speaker 1: at least a handful of guys over six, seven, eight years, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's why you have to go out in free agency
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  Speaker 1: and sign these guys because you draft didn't work out, right,
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  Speaker 1: And so I just want to make sure, I mean, well,
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  Speaker 1: since I mean, at the end of the days, it's
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  Speaker 1: Tom's ben here, it's his responsibility. That's the way it is. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: let's go, Tony, let's go through. Tom's first draft was okay,
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  Speaker 1: four net for overall, that's not a good pick. Pretty
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  Speaker 1: good player, but not a good pick in that spot.
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  Speaker 1: Cam Robinson second round, that's a terrible pick right now,
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  Speaker 1: smooth their round. He's he's a backup D. D. Westbrook
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  Speaker 1: in the fourth round, he's your third receiver right now.
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  Speaker 1: That's not a bad pick that, but the rest of
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  Speaker 1: that draft terrible. I mean, okay, but here's the problem.
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  Speaker 1: Here's where you run into your problems and you're you,
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  Speaker 1: you're spot on with this. They drafted well in fourteen
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  Speaker 1: except for Bordles. There's Mark Easley. You can't count on
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  Speaker 1: the guy getting hurt. Allen Robinson they let go. Well,
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  Speaker 1: So that's like I thought about that the other night
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  Speaker 1: watching Allen Robinson. I did the Bears, the Bears Chicago
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  Speaker 1: of this Bears Cowboys game, and I'm like, here's a
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  Speaker 1: number one receiver on a team that went to the
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  Speaker 1: playoffs last year, is in the wild card hunt right
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  Speaker 1: now with a okay quarterback. But he's the number one
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  Speaker 1: guy and is a good player, and we drafted him.
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  Speaker 1: Did they not offer him something though? Before we left?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I've heard of well, and I've heard all
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  Speaker 1: kinds of different things, and I don't know what's right
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  Speaker 1: or wrong. But some people say, and again this is hearsay,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm you know, but we're on a radio show.
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  Speaker 1: That's what you do, right. What happens here is that
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  Speaker 1: he didn't want to play with Blake, that he didn't
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  Speaker 1: like he wanted to go handed up with Blake. Be
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  Speaker 1: careful what you wish for um now, whether that's true
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  Speaker 1: or not, but the bottom line is there's a guy
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  Speaker 1: that we drafted. It's a good player. No longer here,
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  Speaker 1: but you go here an the other one, Tony, I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna give you this one. This is a perfect example
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  Speaker 1: of how you get into trouble. They used the second
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  Speaker 1: round pick on Jonathan Cyprian in two thousand and thirteen.
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  Speaker 1: They used the fourth round pick on James Sample in
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  Speaker 1: two thousand and fifteen. When you go into two thousand
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  Speaker 1: and seventeen, those two are supposed to be your starting
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  Speaker 1: Well you're welcome back to Glad you can make it. Glad,
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  Speaker 1: you can make it back. Are you talking about that's
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  Speaker 1: the best best two minutes of the shows. When he's
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  Speaker 1: I almost didn't come. I was talking to your old
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  Speaker 1: been out of control negative. I mean, how could you
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  Speaker 1: not be though? Realistically, at least before the show. I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna ask you how many people were really there? Give
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  Speaker 1: me a guest of it. Let's see if you and
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  Speaker 1: JP agree. I thought thirty eight, Oh your your way
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  Speaker 1: over where JP thought it was. I thought it be honest,
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  Speaker 1: there was it was. It was more than it was.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Thirty eight toty count seats as people now. No, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: because you have to carry all the standing area and
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  Speaker 1: everything else, because they have a bunch of the bud zone.
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  Speaker 1: And I bet you was. I bet you. We're gonna
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  Speaker 1: find out. They'll tell me it was thirty eight forty
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: it was. It looked I'm gonna tell you it looked
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: terrible on TV. It was terrible. Let me tell you.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Doesn't look quite look that bad. Yes it does in
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: the stadium that holds sixty eight. Yes it does. They
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: had thirty eight to forty in that stadium before, and
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: we just saw it again Pete talking about I'm I'm
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: leaning more towards JP's number. Okay, I'll go find out.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Does it really matter? No, just I'm not gonna talk
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: about on the air, but I'll call Pete after the show.
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  Speaker 1: Does it really matter? Yeah, because I want to fight, Pete,
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  Speaker 1: I wanna be right about talking about empty stadium's feet.
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  Speaker 1: I did Thursday night in Atlanta on Thanksgiving. It was
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: half I mean, there was nobody there. Nobody there and
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: that's usually a rivalry game with a lot of Saints
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  Speaker 1: fans there. It was empty. No you know who were
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: the only people were there were Saints fans. It was
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: louder when the Saints did something positive than when the
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  Speaker 1: UH Falcons did something positive. I'll be honest with you.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: I think the NFL hasn't not just the NFL, but
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: I think football has an attendance problem. Really. I don't
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: know because you say that here why because it's a
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: TV game. Now, Well, but here's the thing. You watched
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Buffalo yesterday and there wasn't a seat right when you're winning,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: aside from when you're really winning. I'm talking about. So
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: we're like like, like I looked at the college football
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: play the playoff games, the championship games. There are empty
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: seats almost in every one of them. Well, I think
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: even the Sea was packed. It's packed. The problem with
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: those is it's last minute and you have to get in,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Like in Northern California, which is not a rich you know,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: uh a rich college football tradition place. You have to
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  Speaker 1: get the home teams to travel on a Friday night
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  Speaker 1: with five days notice, six days notice. So it's hard,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Like I get I'll bet you anything, Pete. Next year
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  Speaker 1: when they start to pack twelve championships in Vegas, I
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: bet you that place is packed because it's easier to
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: get to from California. It's easy to get there. It's
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: there's the sun devils will get there. They'll have an
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: easy way to get there. That's gonna be easy for
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: that next year. But now also and like like if
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: you look at the NFL, I did Thursday nights every week. Obviously,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: what did you do last you did the game last week? Yeah?
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Where was I can't remember? Oh, Chicago, Chicago packed? Yea,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: when Cleveland when they were four and six packed. Now Houston,
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Houston colts to for for first place three quarters, it
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: was like empty seats everywhere kickoff. So it's like it's weird,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: it's weird. The legacy teams will sell their seats, the
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: newer teams might not. But you look at last night,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: the generations of fans built up. Well, you say that
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Seattle is packed every week? The Rams last night in
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: l A. Do you see that it was packed? Was
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: it packed? Yes, it looked like it was packed. Well,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: the TV shots of the lower part look packed. I
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: didn't see the higher part. And I bet you there
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: were a bunch of Seattle fans in there too. But like,
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  Speaker 1: so you're I'm not saying you're wrong, Pete. Like there's
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: a handful of markets that like, wow, that's if you're
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: not winning. Like yeah, Like Arizona is one of those markets.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: When they win, they sell out. Yesterday they had they
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: were full of Steeler fans. So my buddy went to
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: my buddy who's a Steeler fan, went to that game.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: I talked to him today. He says, eighty of the
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: fans in Arizona or Steeler fans. He says, I've never
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: seen anything like it. It was incredible. I just you know,
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: and Jele, that has to be concerning two shod when
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: you look up and you see that many empty seats,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: because you know, as you know, it's not just the revenue,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: it's the it's it's not just the ticket it's it's
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: it's the good sessions, the parking, all of it. So
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: now I means such a great product on TV. Obviously,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: you know that affects it a little bit, But I
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: think the biggest thing that affects it is when you
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: don't win. You can't blame the fans. I can't blame
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: the fans for not going. I think I heard you
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: say on the radio this morning there were no charge
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: of fans because they don't have any. It was it
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: was a bad It was bad. There was no juice
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: in the stadium and all yesterday, which that's about the
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: third or fourth time you had that this year too,
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: by the way. It was. It was just but the
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: team doesn't do anything to bring it out. I mean,
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: when you lose five straight by seventeen plus points, and
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: if you look at the average, it's they are losing
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: by an average of more than twenty. They're losing by
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: more than twenty points a game for five straight games.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Who how many people will be there for the finale?
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Friends and family? It's Christmas weekend, right, it's the week
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: after Yeah, a holiday week though. Yeah, I mean, the
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: only thing that could save that game is it's the
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: last time you get to see a team until next
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: you know, summer. So well, I think I think the
• 29:47
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• 29:50
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• 29:54
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• 29:56
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• 30:01
  Speaker 1: that team. It's the worst. And the reason I say
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: that is the young kids that were young when you
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: guys were playing Tony. They're the die hards. Now those
• 30:12
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• 30:14
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• 30:17
  Speaker 1: boys are huge Jack fans, and they wore me out
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: after the game esterday. I'm like, listen, don't like. I
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: don't need to be yelled at by you. It's like,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: I get it. Tell him to send into something on Twitter.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: U we'll get ready. No, no, no, they're yeah, yeah, Well,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: if they want their car pay, if they want their
• 30:39
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• 30:41
  Speaker 1: not do anything like that. Sell boys, let's get us one.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Remember one year when his daughter called in, Remember that Pete.
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  Speaker 1: can call in. They're very nice, they're kind their dad,
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• 31:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I'm very I'm very kind
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  Speaker 1: I can promise you never get your ever raised voice.
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  Speaker 1: You're just calm and collected. Ever get bothered by anything.
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  Speaker 1: Pete never bothers you. Oh, come on, unbelievable back in
• 31:39
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  Speaker 1: within him. I mean, that wasn't like great quarterback play.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: That was just bad defense. I mean that is guys
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: not doing their job. That's guys being lost in the
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: back half through a dime the Hunter head you for
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: about thirty five yards that was dropped. I'm not I'm
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: not saying he played bad. I'm just saying I attribute
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: that more. I would just I would just say, like
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: that's like more on bad defense, then you know, great
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: quarterback play. I mean, those are guys. I mean, those
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: are simple plays that we did not defend. Who's responsible
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: on that play? Right there? Can you tell it's the linebackers.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: It's either and it was, it's it's a sneak rout.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: It's a naked blue leg right, They're gonna sneak the
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: hunter Henry out. And literally you have both uh Quincy
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: Williams and and uh Donald Payne chasing ghosts like there's
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: no one over there. There at one on that play,
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: there were three or four Jags in the right side
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: of the field with not one charger, not one charger
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: with it from the hash to the sideline on outside
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: of the field. Everyone else was on the back side.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: And there was no Jaguars on that back side. Ye
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: look at this, there's where are we going? Mhm? I
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: mean it was. And I want to be careful here
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: because I want I mean, it's so easy just to
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: be so critical and and you know, fire this guy,
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: fire this guy whatever. And I get I've been in
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: these situations as a player where it's just miserable and
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: it's going the wrong way. I've never been on a a
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: team that's lost by this margin. This. You know, many
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: games in a row, but in bended situation where it's
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: just going against you and it feels like you're digging
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: a hole and you just can't get out. But when
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: I saw on tape and the performance of our back half,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: and I'll just stick with the linebackers', I don't know
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: if I've ever seen anything like that in the NFL
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: from an assignment standpoint, from just a recognition in doing
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: your job, It's like, I mean, what are you doing
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: all week? Well? And again, wasn't that the criticism of
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: Quincy Williams earlier in the season. That's why I got
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: set down. I mean, I mean, listen, let's talk about
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: Quincy Williams. I actually think Quincy Williams one day could
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: be a like a solid pro, maybe a good He's
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: got the speed in the ability to become a solid pro.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: The guy was playing nickel corner last year in Division
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: one Double A college football. Like the fact that we
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: think that like as a five ten fast linebacker who's
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: not afraid to hit, but has never played the position,
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: played a different completely position in college, whether you want
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: of him, call him nickel or a safety, whatever, and
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: then we're gonna bring him up and playing and asked
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: him to start at will linebacker for US. I don't
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: understand that. Well, he clearly he only played thirty five
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: snaps yesterday because he got benched at halftime because it
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: was so bad they I mean really, it was so bad.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: He was he was lost back there and not like that.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: And then Donald Payne, I mean, he's a guy. He
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: tries hard, he works hard, had a good game last week.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: He had a good game in the run game last week.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: But in the week, but he's but he's not He's
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: a he's not a big man like you're your two linebackers,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: like our five ten each eleven, maybe Donald Payne is,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: and they get overwhelmed, and then you're gonna ask Donald
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: paying I mean, it's just it's it is. And then
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: he come off the bench with Caltro. But who else
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: are you gonna play? Pete? What I'm saying, there's nothing.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: There's nothing I'm gonna go through. I'm gonna go through
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: the PF grades. I don't even care they're bad. I'm curious.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: I want to hear if Jones played good. Abrey Yeah, yeah,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: I thought a played well. Aby is a solid player
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: like Abrey to is. If you can get if you
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: can ask him to do what he did in seventeen,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: which is a rotational player, Like he's a good, solid
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: football player. Like he's a guy like you're you can
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: win with with him on your team. They said Brian
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: was okay in the pass rush and negative in the
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: run defense. Yeah, yeah, nothing, Klais and Unique got positive
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: grades and pass rush. Would you say yes, sir? I
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: mean yeah, I guess is that a good twist game sack?
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: He got a little bit of pressure. I don't remember
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: Yahn doing a lot. He got a couple of hits,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: but now fairness he on that. You know, Philip gets
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: rid of the ball quick, so it's always tough to
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: get to him. Yeah. And and the two linebackers got
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: terrible terrible grades. What we're what we're clays is in
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Yond's grade in the run uh negative for Yahn and
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: slightly above. Yeah, I agree with that. Okay, everybody else
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: got pain except for Wilson. Like there's another guy. I
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: think Jared Wilson is a solid Like if he was
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: your special team's guy and was your third safety or
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: maybe your second safety, if he had a stud number
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: one safety back there, like Jared Wilson is like a
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: guy shows up, works hard, like he's a solid guy.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: Like if he has if he has like ed read
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: next to him. Yeah, fine, here's the grade I have.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: They gave up five yards to the Chargers. It it's
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: an F. No, No, it's not an F. It's an
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: F minus. It's terrible. They they set Philip Rivers down
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: after three quarters. That never happens in the NFL. Like
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: this is this is a game, like if you want
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: to equate it to a grades in school, Like you
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: just took a class and a bunch of classes in
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: this semester and it was so bad that the dean
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: of the school called you in and said, listen, we're
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: gonna have to ask you to leave. We need you
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: to withdraw like you. We don't want you a part
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: of our university any longer. Tody, could I ask you
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: a questions? Now? Seriously, this is dead serious question. There's
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: gotta be a way to figure out maybe this regime
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: has gone so it's not gonna matter. Josh Allen should
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: be on the field more than thirty six maps. I
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: would be playing Josh Allen a lot more. I agree
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: with you, Pete, I'm not sure what the rotation is
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: there um, if nothing else, just to get him reps
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: to get him better for getting ready for next year.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: Like Josh Allen is a big, strong guy. He needs
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: to he needs to work on his pass rush. He
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: needs more reps at the pass for us. He's not
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: because he's not natural at it. He uses his his
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: athletic ability to strength and everything else. He's a good
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: run defender like I would play Josh Allen Moore as well. Okay,
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: let me run down the defense real quick. Tell me
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: who's starting next year, Avery Jones. No, here's a better question.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: Why don't you go to tell me in which one
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: of these guys are NFL starters in the league. Okay,
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Avery Jones. I think as Abrey is a you starting
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: next year for this team. And I think he's a
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: rotational player on most teams. Like he's he's been playing.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: He's playing ta Tavin Bryant has gotten better. I'll give
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: him credit. He has gotten better this year. He is strong,
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: he's explosive. He is not an instinctual player. He should
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: be a backup. He should be the you know, he
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: should be your second three that can come to make
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: and help Calais Campbell for the right price based on
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, you can't pay him with his number is
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: next year. I don't know what Claiss wants to do.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: But if Clais was playing, you know, again your big end,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: a rotational guy, he's your starting end. But he's gonna play,
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: you know, of sixty five snaps. He's gonna play thirty
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: thirty five. Like Clays is still productive. He's you know,
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: he's getting older. I think when he gets tired. He's
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: on the ground a lot at times, but he is
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: still um. I think he, you know, for the right price,
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: but you can't pay him, you know, fifteen million bucks. Ye, like, yeah,
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: it's a good pass rusher. I still don't think Jan
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: has been playing the run great. And I think that
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: is a question you have to ask yourself when the
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: style of defense you're gonna play, Can Yon be your
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: every down player? What's tyle of defense is gonna play?
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know who's gonna be here,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: Like I mean a Ti n and Allan be standing
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: up both on the field at the same time. I
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: think I think uh Alan can play a defensive end
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: or you can play an outside linebacker, you know, in
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: a three or four type of style. I mean, he's
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: a he's athletic, he's big. I think Yan could maybe
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: be an outside linebacker to three four. He's a good
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: pass rusher, There's no doubt about that. The guy can
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: rush the passer. But being a defensive end on and
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: every down, like, you really have to scheme him if
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: you're the defensive coordin if you're gonna play it for
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: three right, Quincy Williams and Donald Payne, No, I think
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: Trey would be he he is a pro, works his
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: tail off. I think in the perfect world, he's your
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: fourth corner. Jared Wilson, we already talked about him. Way
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: to guard No. No a J boy a J. I
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: don't think he's playing very well right now. No, he's not.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: He had a bad game yesterday. And d J Hayden.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: D J Hayden is a very good knuckle tough He
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: is a pro. I mean he were he you want
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: him on your team. I think he's your starting nickel
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: next year. Now. The rest of these guys, Smooth Spence, Jacobs, Calitro,
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: gilt Crest, that's nothing. We just pete this is I mean,
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: maybe like in fairness to everyone, I'm sure people listening
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: to this, and if you know, I'm probably not the
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: most popular, you know opinion right now, I'm giving and
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: maybe I'm too close to it, but I watch a
• 46:47
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• 46:50
  Speaker 1: the national games, and I'm just telling you this is
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: what I see. Let's come back, We'll get into the offense.
• 46:58
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  Speaker 1: I've had a little momentum where we're hitting UM and
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  Speaker 1: then we kind of got all schedule. UM had some
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  Speaker 1: Gardner mins you the second Jaguar's quarterback back in the
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: starting line up yesterday, jaf Shadrick, Tony Maselli. We'll get
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  Speaker 1: back with Pete Prisco in just a few minutes. The um.
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  Speaker 1: We've covered the defense. Let's touch on the offense. Some
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: of the big changed yesterday. Of course, Gardner meant you
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  Speaker 1: back in the lineup. They had a fourteen play drive
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: to open the game with a field goal at the
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: end three nothing. Jags and then it didn't really look
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: great after that on offense, well, and we talked about it.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: This team struggled all year with the red zone production,
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: the thirty one in the NFL right now in converting
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: touchdowns once inside the tent. You know, I mean, Gardners
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: a rookie, and if you judged him based on saying
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: this is like, this is like because he's played so
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: much football now for us, Like if you would have said,
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: if you would have picked Gardner Minshew in the first round,
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: if he was like with Daniel Jones or the you know,
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: the Haskins and that group, Calm Marie, and you said,
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: we took this guy at the end of the first
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: let's say, early second or whatever, and you were getting
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: this type of production where he won four games for you.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: You know, he's been Rookie of the Month, Rookie of
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: the Week several times. You'd be like, hey, we got
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: a guy who's progressing, and like, we have a chance
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: with our this quarterback. And so you have to try
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: to keep that in mind. And I think overall, I
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: don't think Gardner miss you had a great game last
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: yesterday watching the film, I think he missed some stuff. Um,
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: I think he's a little bit quick in the pocket
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: at times, but he's a rookie. Now, I think Gardner
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: Mitshow is gonna get better. I think Gardner Mitshow is
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: really smart. I think he'll learn to see things better
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: because he's a smart football player and and that's the
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: typical progression. He's a you know, a good athlete. He
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: has movement skills. Like my only question of Gardner, Misshu,
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: is his arm strong enough to make all the throws
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: in the NFL, and especially when you're like you're under pressure,
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: can he you know, make the off balance throws that
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: are down the field? Can he drive it on the field,
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: because one thing we didn't see yesterday wouldn't drive anything
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: down the field. Now, I'm not saying that's because of
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew. Maybe it wasn't called. But that's the only
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: question with Gardner Minshew. But overall, if you look at
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: it as a rookie like Gardener Minshew's, I'm in a
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: fine year. He's not the problem. Pee Priss go back
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: with us now down in South Florida. But Tony there too.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: He's too quick to get out of the pocket. Pete,
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: I just said the same thing. My point was this though,
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: and I don't think you're on the line yet if
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: you would have drafted Gardner Minshew in the first round,
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: so let's say he was part of the Haskins and
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: and so you have like when you draft a guy
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: in the first round or even early second, like you
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: feel better about him at the start because like you're saying,
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: this is our guy, and so he has a longer rope,
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: and what you see you always believe the best in.
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: That's human nature. Because you picked at your guy like
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: his year this year, you'd be like, hey, it's a good,
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: solid year for a rookie. He's been Offensive player of
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: the month, offensive Player of the Week several times, won
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: four games games, Like he's progressing like you, but like,
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: but he's a rookie. So you'd be like, all right,
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: we have a chance with this guy because he's gonna
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: grow and progress. And I think Gardner smart and I
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: think he has a chance. And I do think he
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: leaves a pocket a little bit early right now. I
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: don't think he sees it all the time. But what
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: rookie does, Pete, they don't You're right, And so the
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: only question Garterer, Mitch you, in my mind is his
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: arm strong enough and can you get a little bit stronger?
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: Drew brees on got stronger as he got older. That
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: was a question about Drew brees when he came out
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: of for du Was his arm strong enough? Sure? But
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: there were things yesterday that made me start to question
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: whether he could be the long term guy. And what
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: was that, Pete? Well, more of the pocket, dilly dally
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: and spinning around when there was pressure. I'm gonna I'm
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: gonna press you on this and this is why. Because
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  Speaker 1: there was a guy two years ago that was picked
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  Speaker 1: that you thought was the best quarterback in the draft
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  Speaker 1: named Josh al One correct, and after his rookie year
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people said he can't get it, and
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  Speaker 1: early this year people were questioning can he be the guy?
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  Speaker 1: And the reason they questioned it because it does he
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  Speaker 1: see it and he gets out of the pocket way
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  Speaker 1: too fast when he doesn't. What's the difference, Pete, Well,
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  Speaker 1: he's a good runner for one, But I agree with you,
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: but guard men, she was a pretty good run okay.
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  Speaker 1: But here's the reason Josh Allen did it in Buffalo
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  Speaker 1: in large party because he was a rookie, but be
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  Speaker 1: because his line was terrible this was. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if it's not playing very well right very good right now.
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  Speaker 1: But but okay, because I'm gonna ask you this, because
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: you're the defender of all lines, is this line bad
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: right now? Um? It's not good. It's not playing good
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: now across the board? Yeah, I mean, I mean they're
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  Speaker 1: not I mean, I don't think it's a bad I'd
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  Speaker 1: say it's an average offensive line. Right now. You might
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  Speaker 1: be kind. Okay, maybe I'm probably being nicer than I
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  Speaker 1: need to be, but I'll say average. You're always nicer
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  Speaker 1: to like the only reason Josh Allen got more like
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: you felt like that about Josh Allen, there's two reasons.
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  Speaker 1: One is he was a first rounder and you loved
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: him coming out. You didn't love Gardner Minshew. And two
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: he has a rocket arm. I give him that. And
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: he's big and he's big. All right, we'll continue this discussion.
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  Speaker 1: though I'm not laughing, right, are we laughing? No, I'm crying.
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  Speaker 1: I'm crying. We've touched on the offense a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: not a lot today, but it's mainly the defensive we
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  Speaker 1: talked about. We've talked about the line a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: talked about Gardner Minshew. I mean, do you disagree with
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  Speaker 1: my my point about Gardner? Minshewn's been fine. It just
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  Speaker 1: I still have my reservations about and you said it
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  Speaker 1: this morning on the show. Should they draft a quarterback?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's gonna be an issue. Well in and
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  Speaker 1: just so for those who don't listen to the award
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  Speaker 1: me one. No, not Angie, she's not a fan, um Is.
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  Speaker 1: I said that. They we're talking about like who do
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  Speaker 1: you draft? So you have two draft picks and I said,
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  Speaker 1: it depends on where are you draft? And they said,
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  Speaker 1: gonna absolutely do your homework. And if you're like if
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  Speaker 1: you if you were drafted number two and you do
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  Speaker 1: your homework. In the Bengals passed on Joe Burrows. I'm
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  Speaker 1: just using his name. I've only watched two games, but
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  Speaker 1: he's the number one guy right now and everyone's board
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  Speaker 1: and you have him rated as a franchise quarterback who's
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  Speaker 1: a starter, all pro level guy who can take you
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  Speaker 1: to the super Bowl. Heck yeah, I'm taking them because
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  Speaker 1: I'm not convinced that I have that right now. You
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  Speaker 1: probably don't, and so but I don't know if there's
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  Speaker 1: that guy. But I'm also understood. I've said it multiple times,
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  Speaker 1: Pete and I've talked about this, like you have to
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  Speaker 1: have in the NFL. You have to have the guy who's,
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  Speaker 1: you know, calling the signals and pulling the trigger. He
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  Speaker 1: doesn't have to be top five, but he has to
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  Speaker 1: be in the upper half of the NFL that can
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  Speaker 1: win the game when it when you need him to.
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking about the quarterback. After that, you need big
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: people and I and it starts with your defense and
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  Speaker 1: offensive lines. After that, you need to corner will be
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: the next highest and where you look at this team
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  Speaker 1: right now. You need some linebackers, but you gotta start
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: with the big people. You gotta solidify the offensive defensive lines.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm only adding linebackers in there. I'm not saying
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  Speaker 1: i'd use it first. You know, the first first rounder
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  Speaker 1: on him unless you unless you think it's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: ray Lewis. But he was a late first rounder. But
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  Speaker 1: you need guys in the linebacker position right now because
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: you don't have anyone. You do not have a high
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  Speaker 1: end linebacker. Now, maybe Myles can come back from injury.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe this is the year was an aberration. He's had
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: a bad year. Who knows, maybe if you move in
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  Speaker 1: the will he's better. I don't know any of that.
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  Speaker 1: You never played will. I agree with you. I'm just
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  Speaker 1: making out, putting out scenarios out there. But regardless, you
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  Speaker 1: need linebackers on this team. But you watch you watch
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  Speaker 1: the forty Niners right and then they granted they didn't
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: have a good defensive game Sunday, but their linebackers Warner
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  Speaker 1: you can fly and they found him from b y
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  Speaker 1: U and the kid. They remember Quaxander. They paid but
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  Speaker 1: he got hurt and they're playing Dak Greenlaw and linebacker.
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  Speaker 1: He's a blown up safety and they run to the football,
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  Speaker 1: and they get to the football. Then you look around.
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  Speaker 1: Like other teams they find linebackers in the third, fourth,
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  Speaker 1: and fifth round. That's where you find those guys. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not yeah, I'm not saying. I'm not saying I would
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  Speaker 1: pick one of those in the first I'm just saying
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  Speaker 1: in the draft, you need to address linebacker this year
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  Speaker 1: unless you have a special guy, unless you see a
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  Speaker 1: special guy like like the Bucks drafted. Okay, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: ask you this, Devon White, Devon White, would you have
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  Speaker 1: taken him? And that I wouldn't have. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: the value is there in the top ten though pretty
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  Speaker 1: good against the Jags last week. No, he's a very
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: good player. Get a touchdown and a fumble recovery. He's
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: a great player. I'm not saying that. But they mistaken
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  Speaker 1: they passed on No. Yeah, they passed on Josh Allen
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  Speaker 1: and take him. I don't know where would they picked
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  Speaker 1: me for us or after us? I don't remember before him,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: and I think they passed on him. You don't on
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  Speaker 1: a pass rusher to take a linebacker. I wouldn't. I
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't but I'm with you, Tony. I'm an agreement with you.
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  Speaker 1: We've had guys that we have guys at our place
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  Speaker 1: that do mock drafts every week, and they put a
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  Speaker 1: receiver in there one day, and I told him, I said, no, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: big and big and or if you find a corner,
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  Speaker 1: if you if you see a guy that's a shut
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  Speaker 1: down corner. And let's say you're picking um four or
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  Speaker 1: five or six wherever we end up picking, and the
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  Speaker 1: highest rated player and he's higher than any of the
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  Speaker 1: big people is a shutdown corner. Okay, I'm fine with that.
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  Speaker 1: But you need people. But you need big people on
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  Speaker 1: this team, and you need big Your defensive line is
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: there's no depth in You're You're still you're. Here's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: Your best defensive linement is still plays Campbell and he's
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  Speaker 1: aging and so you have you know this, Tony. Aside
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  Speaker 1: from just big people, big people, the franchise is the
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  Speaker 1: way the game is played. Now are built quarterback. Guy
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  Speaker 1: who knocks the quarterback down, guy who protects the quarterback,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: the guy who knock the quarterbacks passes down. And now
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: it's a five pronged approach because you gotta have a
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: big play receiver. So if you look at jat Wars,
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  Speaker 1: do they have a quarterback position solved? No? Do they
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  Speaker 1: have the left tackle position solved? Mm hmm no. Do
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  Speaker 1: they have the pass rushing position solved? Maybe? Do they
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: have the corner position solved? Do they have the big
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: play receiver position solved? That one I give him with
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: the chart. Yeah, those out of those five spots, one
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  Speaker 1: is chart yes. Two. If Josh Allen is what you
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  Speaker 1: think he is and then god Way comes back, then yes.
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  Speaker 1: But other than that the other three no, absolute nos. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, and it's not just I mean, let's I
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: want to make sure to me, it is not just
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: the pass rusher on the defensive line. You have to
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  Speaker 1: be able to stop the run. I have to. You
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  Speaker 1: have to in this league. And I will argue to
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  Speaker 1: the end of time. I know it's a passing league,
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: but you have to run the ball in this league.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: You go look at the the go look at the teams.
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  Speaker 1: You're good this year. The Ravens they run the ball,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: not just with Lamar Jackson, Yes, he's a big part
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: of it. They have a good offensive line and they
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: have good backs. The San Francisco forty Niners. They run
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  Speaker 1: the ball. Kyle Shanahan his whole offense and all the
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: geniusness that everyone says how Grady was. It was no
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: different when they had Matt Ryan and Julio Jones and Snow.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: That team was built on running the ball inside outside zone.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: That's what they did. They ran it with Tevin Coleman
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  Speaker 1: and Freeman. If you go look at the uh uh.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: If you go look at the Saints, the Saints and
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: Sean Payton, they run the ball. So the common thing
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: of those teams so it is that they have the
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: threat and the ability to throw it too. I'm not
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: saying you can't just be a one dimensional team. That's
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: what this team was. Jp you're not listening. I started
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: this whole conversation. You have to have a quarterback, Yes,
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: I agree with that. Bait Blake Portles couldn't throw the ball,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: so there was no threat, right, So so that's a given.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: But you have to be able to run the ball
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: and you have to stop the run. You have to
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: because you can't get the passing situations if you don't
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: stop the run. So the pass rusher is useless if
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: you can't stop the run. And Tony but one. One
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  Speaker 1: thing that's you see two is a lot of times
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  Speaker 1: you'll find a guy and hit on him as a
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: run stopper. We've seen that play out over the course
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: of this you know what I mean, Like a guy
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: who didn't quite work out bulks up and he becomes
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: a run stopper. I'm gonna give you a perfect example.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: Mike Purcell, who's playing in Denver right now. Scrappet pick up,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: bulked up. Now he's one of the better run stuffers
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: in the league. You remember guys back in the day
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: that used to do that. We used to see what
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: the guy from Buffalo that did that bulked up to
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: about three Pat, not Pat Williams, but Williams. Remember those
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: guys they did They find him in like the fifth
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: or sixth round, they fail at someplace bulk up and
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: become a big time run stopper. The Jaguars don't have
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: a big time run stuff like that. And here's the thing.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: If you're gonna run the ball, you have to decide
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: what kind of running team you want to be. Like
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: we've been saying this, like Leonard for Nette is a
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: good downhill gap scheme runner. He's not an outside zone
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: inside zone guy, he's for sure on outside zone and
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: so like he's effective, Like he's having a good year.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: He's a good player. But you have to build your
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: offense based on your personnel, and so if you're gonna
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: have him, you better have a big, physical offensive line.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: You better have a blocking tight end. You better have
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: a fullback. We have no blocking tight end. We have
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: no fullback. Have you done Denver at all this year
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: other than the game you guys did, Yes, I did
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: him against uh Kansas City? All right, David a linebacker
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  Speaker 1: named Advander Johnson. He's yea free agent. Well, the merch
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  Speaker 1: is a pretty good player. Yeah, But Pete, there's history
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: there why he was a free agent. I know. But
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: he's a good player. I'm just saying, but there's risk there.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's I'm just saying there's there's more
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  Speaker 1: and I don't want to get into exactly, but there's
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  Speaker 1: a backstory there that there's some risk with it. But
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: Tamorrio Davis perfect example, third round pick of the Jets
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  Speaker 1: that trade. He's fantastic for the great I'm not Pete.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: I never said draft a linebacker in the first round. No,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just saying you have to address it. Yes, you
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  Speaker 1: have to address it. But this game, this game, at
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: the end of the day, at the end of time,
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: the teams who can run the ball and stop the
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: run win as long as you have a quarterback like
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: go tell me the go tell me the great receivers
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  Speaker 1: that they have, Emmanuel Sanders is coming from Achilles Tendon.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: Have guys, they have good guys. They're solid, good players.
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  Speaker 1: these mock drafts are stupid. Right now will change fifteen times.
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  Speaker 1: Some of these guys in the first ten picks won't
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  Speaker 1: even get drafted. The fourth round and then they had
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: and then the second first round. Think about this, Toney,
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  Speaker 1: how much would you go they have them taken well,
• 1:12:37
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  Speaker 1: I mean that's the formula. Like you look, you gotta build,
• 1:12:47
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• 1:12:49
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• 1:12:52
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  Speaker 1: second highest run percentage in the NFL last year. With
• 1:12:58
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  Speaker 1: you better be able to run the ball, better control
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• 1:13:46
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• 1:13:51
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  Speaker 1: The Atlanta Falcons are one of the worst teams in
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  Speaker 1: the end. See they have Julio Jones, top ten pick,
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: one of the highest paid receivers. They's not the highest
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  Speaker 1: paid receiver in football. They have Calvin Ridley, first round pick.
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  Speaker 1: They have uh Hooper Deondi Freeman running back. They have
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: Matt Ryan when the highest paid players at his positions.
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  Speaker 1: They have Hooper at tight end. And they can't move
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: the ball, they can't run it, they can't block, and
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: they can't win because they can't win in the trenches. Well,
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  Speaker 1: they moved there yesterday and they won yesterday. And because
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  Speaker 1: they drafted at Lynstrom kid and he's finally playing right
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  Speaker 1: and McGary's getting better rookies playing on the right side.
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  Speaker 1: I agree with you. I agree with you, Pete. I
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  Speaker 1: watched McGary and they play it good. Caroline good right now, Carolina,
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, Carolina can't stop anybody. They're terrible.
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  Speaker 1: They can't stop anybody. What is the Falcons record? Not good?
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  Speaker 1: Coach for night four and nine? So four nine with
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: all the investment in the skill positions, but they invested
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: in the line last year. It's not just investing, it's
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: investing the right guys, right. But it's tough when you
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  Speaker 1: lose the guy you drafted in the first round and
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: then you lose them. That's hard. Oh, I'm not saying
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not being critical. I'm just my point is,
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're not trying to do it. But
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: where if they've invested their draft picks and their collateral
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: lately until last year? Correct? Yeah, well Jake Matthews was
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: the first round there, I'm fine, and Lynch from helps him.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: If they get the offensive line figured out, they have some.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: They're very little on defense as well, Pete. You know that.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: Then a little defense, a little defensive line that can't stop,
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: they can't hold up. And my whole point, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: being overly critical of the Falcons or anything else. I'm
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: just trying to make the point where everyone starts talking
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: about all these skill guys, and I want good skill guys,
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: but if you want big people, you can't win this
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: You cannot win in this league. It's improven year in
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: and year out. The fact, look at look at Baltimore's line.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: Stanley and Brown are good at tackles. You know, Yonda
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: is good. Bozeman's playing well at left guard as as
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: a kid out of Alabama. And then they got a
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: second backup centers playing. Now go look at those big
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: defensive lignment into the interior. It's hard to run against them, right,
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: Pearson Williams tough? All right, you done, I'm done. Okay,
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: let's get my rant is over. But that's what has
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: to be, that's what has to happen in my opinion.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: Let's get to social media questions, and we've got some
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: good ones again today. Of course at John big g
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  Speaker 1: A is Tony Boselli going to coach o line? Ken
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: Prisco take an advisory role in the front office Jaguars.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: We need some milk. I don't know what that means,
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: but no, I will not be coaching the offensive line,
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: and no, people will not be an advisory war role
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: role as well. I don't know, but I think I've
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: been offered that job. No one, no one's offer No
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: one's offered you that job. You'd be surprised. I know
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: for a fact, if Tom coflin the role he is in,
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: he is not inviting Pete risco in, He's not making
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: that decision. I'm taking his job. So you've talked to Shot,
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: I've talked to I'm taking over for Tom. In case
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: anybody's wondering, my god, No, I will not be drafting
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: and running back fourth overall. Ever, I guess I gotta
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: get my reds may warmed up to go look for
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: someone because I can't be around Pete that much, one
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: time a week already. It's a lot. Apparently we need
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: some milk as a meme. I'm told I don't know
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: what that means. Right, Let's move on at Samuel of Duval.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know who would make the worst GM between
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: Priscoe and a Seally. Priscoe's team would consist of an
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: undrafted running back in a statue of a quarterback, while
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: but Selly would feel a team consisting of first round
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: lineman the likes of Luke Jokol Insane Beatles. That's not
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: really a question, that's a statement. So you basically and
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: also saying Beatles wasn't the first round. First of all,
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: this is I think the point I was Tony would
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: draft him in the first round. No, I wouldn't. That's stupid.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: Why would you put that up there. That's not a question.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: That's a cheap shot, that makes no sense, and it's
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: not accurate. Prestcost part is probably no, I don't think
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: Pete wants a statue of a quarterback. No, I don't.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: I want a guy who can move. But I would
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: I take uh, I take my homes he can move. Yeah,
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: I mean that's is dumb. That's dumb. Next I would
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: I would have an undrafted not an undrafted, but my
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: running back would come in the third round, third round. Yeah,
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: I'm not drafted. I certainly wouldn't draft him in the
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: first round. Look at look at the look at the guy.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: Look at the guys who got paid and drafted the
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: first round. David Johnson, Zeke, Kellyott. David Johnson wasn't the
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: first rounder. I don't think Pete no, but he got paid.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: It's what I'm saying. He was in the first rounder. Though. No,
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying the guy who got drafted the first
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: round and or got paid. That's not what you said.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: But that's fine. That's what I said. Let's not spoop.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: HEAs here at Kelsey, Joe and a T eight Tony.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: In your opinion, if you were shot, con would you
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: clean house now? Not asking what you think will happen,
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: asking what you personally think should happen, like right now, No,
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: I would not. I see no purpose of making a
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: change with three weeks in the season left, other than
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: getting a jump start start on the process. You're gonna
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: but Pete, you're gonna plenty of time as soon as
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: the season's over to get a jump shot, jump start
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: on the process. And there's rules of who you can
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: interview anyways when teams are in the interview, but you
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: can get going on it. Okay, everybody's going on in anyways,
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: is what you're saying. Yeah, it's like, just because you
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: haven't made changes doesn't mean you can't start preparing for
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: what you're gonna do. Here's a question I have and
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: I'm not a Twitter guy, but I'm gonna ask Tony
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: this would Ron Rivera be on your radar? Sure? Absolutely,
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: two time Coach of the Year, took a team to
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Yeah, I think Ron will be a
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: great hire for whoever gets him. I definitely one would
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: be who's your coordinator? I definitely want to interview him,
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: who's your offensive coordinator? Sure? I mean, by the way,
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: that's a question i'd ask any but but but that
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: isn't that an important one for a defensive coach? I
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: personally think that's an important question for any head coach
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: you're interviewing is who are your coordinators? Because those are
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: key roles in the organization. But a defensive minded coach,
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: you want to know who the offensive coaches because you
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: want to see what kind of style he's gonna play, sure,
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: and what you gotta do at quarterback and other physicians
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: and all that. Are you gonna play offense? It's kind
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: of important lest I checked, No, less important if you
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: hire an offensive coaches, who's your defensive defense? So, Tony,
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: you don't think the Redskins and the Panthers right now
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: have a little edge on the Jaguars, don't. Okay? Next
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: question at no toes down? Are there any position groups
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: we can be optimistic about going into the offseason. The
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: only when I see is defensive end, and that's only
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: if we keep it Gockway, I think. I think DJ
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: Chark has been a bright spot. That's one receiver, but
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: group though group, it's one receiver. Um, okay, I mean
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: no defensive ends? Did if in Godways on the team,
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: So let's if a Godways on the team, not on
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: the team. There's no position Okay. I don't know if
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: I agree with that. No running back? Maybe running back
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: because if you and if you're gonna run the right
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: style of offense, I think it running back. You're fine.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: I think listen, I think if you have charking. Uh
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: are you so all of a sudden you're done with Westbrook?
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: He can't be a good number three slow receiver. Oh
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: but you need another guy so you don't feel great
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: about the group. Well, you need another defensive end too.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: We got to you need a big end m Man crickets.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: It's not good. You need a big end of the
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: style defensive playing now. But you don't need I mean
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: you can get by with with two passing ends if
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: you have two big guys in the middle. Okay, it
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: means there's some work to be done in the offseason.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, i's a lot. Say what, it was a
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: big end on your team when you were good? Uh?
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: We we We had Smangy, we had Logman, we had Brackens.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: They're not big ends. They were they were not big ends. No,
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: but the style ends they But Smangy was two hundred
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: and seventy pounds sixty five pounds. He was a big dude.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: He could hold the point with the tight end over there.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: But you're talking like when you talk big and in
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: their defense, you're talking about Clay. I'm just talking about
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: close side and and I guess you know John, I
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: mean Josh Allen's big enough. He could do it all right, right?
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: Uh final question, Uh, Mr sach Ray. In twenty five years,
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: this franchise has seen little success. What is the root cause?
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: I feel like we talked about things on the surface,
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: but we can never pinpoint the root of the problem.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: Small market problems. Why can't we seem to get the
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: right people on and off the field to bring success.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: I don't think small market has anything to do with it.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: I mean Green Bay is a smaller market and they're
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: pretty successful. Um, it's drafting. Lay it out there. At
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: the end of the day, it's about It's about the
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: leadership and draft and building the right getting the right pieces,
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: the right Jimmy's and Joe's on the field, and then
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: coaching them up and having them execute. That's I mean. Look, Tony,
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: I always go back to your draft. Your draft. Okay,
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: you had extra picks in the draft, and this is
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: a perfect taste illustration of what happens when you miss
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: on draft picks. You big hit James Stewart, solid hit,
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: not a great hit, solid hit. DeMarco with Schwartz ended
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: up being a with and here's and here's the one.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: Chris Hudson was a miss. So what do they do
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: when they miss Chris Hudson? Come back two years later
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: and they take Mike Logan. What happens when they missed
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: Mike Logan? They have to use a first round pick
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: in on Donovan Darius. There's where all the problems come
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: into play for a franchise. When you miss drafting, you
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: try and compensate at a either at a later draft
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: or through free agency, and it comes back to bite
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: you behind. Who is the best or what are something?
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: Give us some of the best organizations at drafting right
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: now and they all miss. I think the Ravens have
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: had great drafts over the years. The Ravens have traditionally
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: been one of those teams where I'll let my free
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: agent go because I got a guy over here I
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: can get. Yeah, I can put them in, you know,
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: like they let Sugs go and now ju don is
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: having a great year. They just know how to replace.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: That's what good good organizations do. They replace right now?
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: Is there any replace? I mean, Herndon's playing because he
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: had to. But is there a replaced guy in the
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: on the on the field on defense right now or replace? No? No,
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: And the Steelers are historically been great a drafting. Yes,
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: how about the Seahawks lately over the the run over
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: the last and I don't know, I can't go through
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: the whole roster, but a lot of the Seahawks good
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: players are guys they drafted. I mean, they traded for
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: Dwayne Brown the left Happle Clowney is there now and
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: Clowney they got on the trade but it was the
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: greatest trade ever. But the but the good Seahawks team
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: teams were built on the draft, through the draft, right
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: I think that was my point? Yeah, yeah, yeah, like yeah,
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: like Sherman and and uh but even if you look
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: at it now, they're they're best players. Russell Wilson drafted
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: their two backs, drafted Bobby Wagner, drafted kJ Wright. I
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: think he was a draft Um there he was there,
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: good corner right now? Uh what's his name? Twin brothers
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: on the team. I came think he's a draft pick.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: But I mean, like here here's their draft traded. For example,
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: two thousand and ten, o'coon who started Earl Thomas, Golden Tate,
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: Cam Chancellor. That's four guys in that draft. Then you
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: come back and you get kg kJ right in the
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: fourth round, Richard Sherman and the fifth Malcolm Smith, remember
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: he was a Super Bowl MVP. Uh in the seventh
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: then he come back the next year, Bruce Servant didn't
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: quite work out but wasn't awful, Bobby Wagner, Russell Wilson, Jake,
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: and then Sweezy came in the seventh round. Then he
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: come back the next year. They blew at the year
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: because they got Kristin Kristin, Michael Member, he was a bust,
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: but they get Luke Wilson, Spencer Ware who end up
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: playing league. You come back, you get Paul Richardson, Justin
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: Britt Cassius Marsh which isn't great, and then Frank Clark,
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett, Mark Lewinsky who's now starting in in Indianapolis.
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: So they're drafts. Effetti read Vanette Quentin Jefferson. I mean
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: they get guys that play. So I was right that.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: Here's the other thing though, if they don't get Russell Wilson,
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: they got they don't get if they don't hit him
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: in the third round. It's still there's still floundering if
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: you go through. I mean, we could do this all night.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: But if you go through, most of the teams that
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: are in the division lead or are fighting for the
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: wild card. But let's just do the division leaders are
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: the best teams. It's built to the draft. They traded
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: for Jimmy g but most of their guys are draft picks. Um.
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: They did some, they did some free agents, but the
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: majority of their basis is the draft. If you like, Okay,
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: let's go through Bosa, the big These are guys contributing
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: this year. Bosa Samuel I mentioned green Law, he was
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: a fifth round pick. Uh. Then you get McGlinchey, first
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: round pick, Pet Warner third round pick. Uh DJ, I mean,
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: these guys are all later picks. Then you get to
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: the next Solomon Thomas was a miss as a first
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: round pick. He's a miss. Ruben Foster is a miss.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: But what happened to him, that's why. But then they
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: get Henderson in the third round. They get Kid on
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: the fifth round in that same draft. Then d J. Jones,
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: who starts on the nose, came in the sixth. So
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: they missed the first two. First they have two first
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: round picks. Think about that for a second Tony two
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: first round picks that year, miss on Thomas, miss on Foster.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: But they get starting corner and Witherspoon the best tight
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: end in the NFL right now, and Kittle and DJ
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: Jones is their starting nose in the sixth round. That's
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: how you compensate and make up for it, and that's
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: why your team is good. I mean, the Saints are
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: though different, the Saints is you know, obviously Drew Brees
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: was a free agent, but the Saints have drafted. They
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: draft a lot of good players Green Bay, I mean,
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: and so the drect you like, free agency is important
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: is to feel a couple like just bits and pieces.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: But the team, the good teams are built through the draft.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: It's the bottom line. You're gonna have misses. Everyone misses,
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: but you have to have a lot. You have to
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: have more hits than misses. And that's not happening. How
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: many ahead people and the forty Niners did draft a
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: running back in the top ten? Mm hmm, thanks Pete.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: Pete loves going back to that. That's just that is
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: literally his like trump card. Okay, I'm a great hand,
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: but here it is, and I applaud, I applaud Leonard
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: for net for what he's done and how he's changed.
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: But it's just the value of the position. You just
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: don't take that there. How many misses is too many misses? Oh?
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a numbers one person that
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: would know that. The owner of the team. Well, right now, no,
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: it's I mean that right now, it's I mean, I
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: still think the way it's where we sit today is
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: it's the evaluation of of Tom. I mean Tom is
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: the one who evaluate is going to evaluate all that
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: until further notice. I mean, but as we sit today,
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: so basically what you're talking, he's evaluating himself because he's
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: drafted him. Yeah, I guess you're right. I can't evaluate you, okay,
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: but silly, based on your evaluation of your effort in
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: this radio show, I think A plus A plus. I'm
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: an A plus and me and JP, you are really
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: doing the evaluation, might give you a C plus. Maybe
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: something would be lower than that. On that that hurts
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: D D D. But you understand what you're just what
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, Tony, how could Tom do the critiquing of
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: the draft when he did it let's gonna break. You
• 1:36:05
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• 1:36:08
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• 1:36:11
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• 1:36:13
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• 1:36:17
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• 1:36:20
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  Speaker 1: You know that busted busted things, and you know, those
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• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: him in good position. We work on things during the week,
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: but um, you know, if you don't have that performance
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: on the field, and it's a reflection on everyone. Sorry,
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: Doug interrupted, Doug Marone there Jaguars head. That was embarrassing,
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: Jaguar's head coach. That's why you get a D minus.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: WHOA wow, you're throwing out grades now, how about that?
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: That's Tony started the grades you threw Pete started it. Okay,
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: he gave you too high, but I gave I gave
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: Hi a C plus. You said, way low. I said
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: D plus. I said D plus, you said C plus.
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: At least it's not an F. But look at the
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: right side of Ellie. You did what you wanted to do.
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: You danced around the question. When I asked you the question,
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: you deflected. He's a deflector. Certainly is he deflects. I
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  Speaker 1: bull rushed him and he did what he did to
• 1:40:47
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• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: and didn't answer my question. But what's the answer? Then?
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: What was the question? Again? Shouldn't golf and be held
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: it was he critique? He should be held accountable. But
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: for all is picks, he's the one who made him.
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: You agree, yes, absolutely should be Okay, what what would
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: you say, Pete? Just out of curiosity and none of
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: us really know, if you took all your draft picks,
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: what should be your hit rate over you know, a
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: six year period, Well, you should hit on if you
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: say you have six first round picks, and I'm gonna
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: say if you hit six d if you have six
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: round picks, you gotta hit him five first round try okay,
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: second round picks. Okay, because it's different variables. You're not
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: gonna hit on all your seven. You gotta if you
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: hit one seventh round pick in that six years, you
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: should do cart wheels if you hit. So, let's just
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: say five of six first round picks, four of the
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: six second round picks, three of the six third round picks,
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: two fours and then one all the way through. You
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: do that, you're having a good You're drafted? Well, were
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: you great? Is that a good formula? Sure? I guess
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 1: where do you think this team is? Okay, go through
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: their draft picks. They haven't hit on five of the
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: six first round picks. Okay, go through read the first
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: round picks real quick, quickly. Last last year, Josh Allen, Yeah,
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: Davin Bryan, keep going. I think lays a hit. I
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: know you don't like you. It's not a it's not
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: a hit based on the value that. Okay, fine, it's
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: not not a hit at four. It's a hit at for.
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: It's not a Ramsey Jayleen Ramsey is a hit is
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: it's not the roster. It's the right pick. He's a
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: good player. Okay, just go Foler Bortles, no joke. No,
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: how many of that? That's what? How many graph picks
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: who had a having two out of seven two out
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: of seven. Pete says it's a hit. Okay, let's go
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: to second round. Oh gosh, okay, it's gonna be a while.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: This is good. This is good to hear. I like
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: to hear this myself. Joan Taylor hit yes. DJ Chark
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: hit yes. Cam Robinson no, thank you, Miles Jack no,
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: t J Yeldon no, No, markis Lee No. Well, I
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: think if you would, it's hard to fact that the
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: end because of the injury. But the answer is now, okay,
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: I would say I'm gonna get Marquis Yes, m you
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: sign him to a second deal. No, it's a no, Tony,
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: he's not. He hasn't been a contributor for her going around.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: Jonathan No. Allen Robinson, Oh yeah, that was another second
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 1: round pick. Allen Robinson. Yes, yes, well, I don't know.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: He's not on the roster. But no, two, that's two
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 1: out of eight because if you hit them, they should
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: still be on the roster. This is not a good
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: ratio so far. Should we do the third round here,
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: let's do the third round? Okay, the ratio here? I
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: bet they get three of these. Josh Oliver, Josh Oliver
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: and Quincy Williams two early Ronnie Harrison No, Dwan Smoot
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: no Unique and got Way Yes, a J. Can Yes,
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: they've resigned him. They started the most games, right, yes,
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: Brandon Linder, Yes, yes, Dwayne rots Oh so that's three
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: out of six, believe it? Okay? In the third round,
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: you want to fourth although a J. A j. Is
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: a starter, but he's not good. Do you want to
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 1: you want to the fourth round? Signed, Hey, let's just
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: go through the four then we'll call it here. No
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: fourth round pick this year. Last year it would have
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: been will Richardson Jr. To be determined. D D. Westbrook
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: in seventeen. Yes, Sheldon Day, Well he's played on another team,
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: but no, James Sample he No, Aaron Colvin. No, you
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: didn't resign because you couldn't afford him. He was a
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: good player. I think he's a hit. Hous I'm giving
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: him a hit. Go ahead? Wow, uh, Ace Sanders, that's
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: the fourth rounders, so you have that's two out of
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: six with the one he's not on the roster, so
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: it's not a hit. That's two out of six with
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: an undetermined in will Richardson. Wow. Not good, not good,
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: not good. Um, we could play this game all night.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: Let's just move along to the ANFC South. Let's start
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: with the results from yesterday around the division. The Broncos
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: beat the Texans. Watson's day a couple of interceptions and
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: a couple of touchdown runs, but Drew Lock looking good
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  Speaker 1: the last three weeks of the season. Head to hit,
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  Speaker 1: that is a bad loss for the for the Texans,
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  Speaker 1: a bad loss. And I didn't see the game. Is
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  Speaker 1: Drew Lock the real deal? Pete? Yeah, I mean he can.
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  Speaker 1: here's a question. If you're the Jaguars, would rather have
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  Speaker 1: The question would be do you want Drew Lock and
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  Speaker 1: Darius Leonard. Yeah, he's got as many interceptions as he
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• 1:48:21
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  Speaker 1: out of seven? Seven? Really too, because I know you
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  Speaker 1: think Leonard for it's the wrong guy because of the value.
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  Speaker 1: or seven you took off Leonard. I gave them Jalen.
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  Speaker 1: that you don't have, and when you lose that, it
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  Speaker 1: guys who make a difference on Sunday, and that's and
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  Speaker 1: that's it's hard to win games well. And the other thing,
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  Speaker 1: Tony is when they're high first round picks, it's even
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  Speaker 1: worse because you're expecting those guys to be Pro Bowl players.
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  Speaker 1: They've all been high frust round picks everyone, but right
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  Speaker 1: so that there's there's your width bordles with foul or
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna go and you go back to Leonard who's
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  Speaker 1: having a very good year, and let's take Pete's opinion
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: off the board that you don't pick a running back
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  Speaker 1: that high. If you pick him that high, well then
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  Speaker 1: you have to build your offense based on the runner
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  Speaker 1: he is, which does not happened. I mean much like
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  Speaker 1: I mean you look at uh Carolina, they took uh
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  Speaker 1: McCaffrey what ten or nine, ten, eleven, whatever you want
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  Speaker 1: in that area, and the offense is built around what
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 1: he does well inside outside zone, use them out of
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 1: the backfield. As a receiver, get the ball in his hands.
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  Speaker 1: I mean that they built the offense around him and
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 1: gave the personnel to do it. And so let me
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  Speaker 1: ask you this Tony, is Leonard now a better receiver
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: than he is runner? No, I listen. I think he's
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  Speaker 1: caught the most balls on this team this year, which
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 1: is a lot of them. Are I mean his yards
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  Speaker 1: per a tent or yards per catches, He's got more
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 1: than not yards per catching. Um. I still say Leonard
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  Speaker 1: four Nette as a gap runner is a good running back.
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  Speaker 1: If you want to say we're gonna be a gap team,
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 1: We're gonna counter, we're gonna get we're gonna run power,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna run what I would call base whatever you want.
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  Speaker 1: Where was getting a bunch of bubble teams and you know,
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: and letting him pick the whole type of deal. Like
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 1: he's like he's a physical guy. He's not gonna make
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  Speaker 1: him miss. He's not a great jump cut guy. He's
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 1: he's his go to move is to spin. I mean,
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 1: but he's downhill north and south guy. And like he's
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: affect like Henry, Like Henry Henry. Henry has great feat
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: Henry is a jump cut. Henry has a good jump cut.
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  Speaker 1: He could run inside zone. He's effective at that. Uh Like,
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: but you have to build that, like you've just to
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: decide that's where we're gonna be. Then we have to
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 1: build it like that. We're gonna play all our play
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 1: action pass and all that stuff is gonna be off
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 1: the power and counter stuff we do. But then you
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: have to have big people. You have to big tight end,
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: you have a big physical office. Lie you have to
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  Speaker 1: fall back things we've said all night, and so I like,
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  Speaker 1: I would not pick back number four either, Pete. But like,
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 1: if you want to be fair to let her like
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: he's having a productive year, he's a good player, he's
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 1: done a good I'm giving him credit for what he's done.
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  Speaker 1: And I think right now he's one of those guys
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 1: that's turned things around. Credit them. It's just the value
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  Speaker 1: of the position isn't there for me? And I don't
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  Speaker 1: think he's the type of back in the NFL that
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 1: that you know makes people miss. And it's an air
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: game now you gotta make people miss. Let's touch on
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 1: some of the games around the league yesterday. Falcons over
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 1: the Panthers forty to twenty. The Ravens looking good again,
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 1: seventeen over the Bills. Um the Browns beat the Bengals
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 1: nineteen and then Baker Mayfield talking about the training staff
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 1: after the game. Odell Beckham, Um, they was asking him
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: about what what was it, Peter about Odell Beckham? And
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 1: he said, some problems and he's gonna have the three
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 1: And so he took a little shot at the training stare.
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  Speaker 1: Let me, let me say something about the Ravens. Can
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 1: they at some point he's gonna have to start completing
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: passes to the wide receivers. I'm sorry, He's just going
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 1: to have to. And the Bills did an outstanding job
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 1: on Lamar Jackson yesterday. I don't know if you guys
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 1: saw any bits and pieces of that. He didn't throw
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: the ball very well. He had one, you know, busted
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 1: coverage for sixty yards. Other than that, I think he
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 1: was under He had like seventy five yards passing and
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 1: he didn't run that well. So if I play the Ravens,
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  Speaker 1: I'm daring him. I'm taking away the middle of the
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 1: field of daring him and throw the receivers. And I'm
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: not letting him run handed off to mark Ingram. I'm
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 1: stopping that running game. I'm gonna take my chances with it. Eventually,
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: it's gonna catch up with them. Well, now, listen, the
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 1: Bills are a good defense. R Sean McDermot and Leslie
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: Fraser both good defensive minds. I mean, they got good
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 1: person down and they did a good job. That's a
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 1: good football team in the Buffalo Bills. They might end
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 1: up winning the FCS because right now the Patriots are
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 1: just scrambling figuring out how to score points. Now that
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 1: Patriot Chief came, How are they cheating? You didn't see
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 1: the story today that they were the Bengals. Who needs
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 1: to film the Bengals, right? That'd be like filming the
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 1: Jaguars enough. But I'll say this that Patriot defense is good.
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 1: They did a good job against the Chief's offense. It
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 1: is time now for Monday Night Football. After a few
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 1: weeks of great matchups, we're back to the horrible, underachieving
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 1: NFC East. With Daniel Jones injured, here comes Eli Manning
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 1: off the bench at quarterback for the two and ten
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 1: New York Football Giants. They're headed to South Philly to
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 1: face the underachieving five and seven Philadelphia Eagles, who could
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 1: overtake the horrible first place Dallas Cowboys down the stretch?
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 1: Yuh oh you got tonight. Well, they can't overtake them
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 1: this week because even if they win, they have the
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 1: same record. But they already lost to the Cowboys once
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 1: they they match up or meet up week sixteen. That's
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 1: why I said down the stretch, down the Stretch. I know,
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, just letting people know, thank you. Down
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 1: the Stretch means down the Stretch. The Giants and Redskins
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 1: in consecutive weeks before that. It's uh, it's a bad division.
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 1: It's we've had so many good Monday Night games as
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 1: of late. I guess we're do with stink here. I
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 1: think the Eagles win pretty easily. I think it's gonna
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 1: be high scoring, Eli manning back into saddle. It's a
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 1: Swan song. The next couple of weeks, I think you
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 1: see a lot of points. But I think the Eagles
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 1: winned too. Alright. Boys. By the way, we never talked
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 1: after last week's Monday Night game when Pete said that
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 1: the Rams are gonna beat the Ravens and I picked
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 1: the rate last week. That was close, but you were
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 1: almost there. They only lost by five touchdowns. That wasn't
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 1: last week. Okay, two weeks ago, so that was two
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 1: weeks ago. They lost by eight touchdowns. Good call, Pete.
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 1: That's why you're an expert picker. I'm sure CBS is
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 1: proud to have you. Selly, I'm JP Shadowick. We'll talk
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