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Speaker 1: from house Stuff Works dot com. Hey, and welcome to
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Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Josh Clark with me as always as
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Speaker 1: Charles W. Bryant. I'm always there for you, Josh as always. Yes,
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Speaker 1: I'm contractually obligated today. I know, I know, I know.
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Speaker 1: So Chuck, you doing are Yeah, dude, how are you doing?
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Speaker 1: Pretty good? It's Thursday, it's not Friday, but it's a
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Speaker 1: little gray out for my tastes. Yeah, it's sprinkling, by
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Speaker 1: the way, I thought it was like pouring rain. Is
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Speaker 1: it sprinkling? It's sprinkling. That's good. So, um, Chuck, do
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Speaker 1: you remember can we go back year or so May two, eight?
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Speaker 1: How many years after Ghostbusters? Let's see how it was?
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Speaker 1: And yes, we do know that there is a four
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Speaker 1: years a sequel coming by the way, Yes, Ghostbusters three.
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Speaker 1: That's gonna be awesome. Should be the entire original caste
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Speaker 1: except for Sigourney Weaver, which that's okay. Um, yeah, Ghostbusters
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Speaker 1: three coming out? Right? Where are we So we're we're
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Speaker 1: twenty four years after Ghostbusters? And um, the news cycle
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Speaker 1: had this kind of strange occurrence where a bunch of
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Speaker 1: undiscovered human beings were splashed across the front pages of
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Speaker 1: newspapers everywhere. Yeah. Yeah, so there's this photo. There are
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Speaker 1: several photos of these people living in um primitive huts
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Speaker 1: actually primitive longhouses is what it looks like. Uh. And
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Speaker 1: they are the it's an aerial photo taken from a
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Speaker 1: low flying helicopter and they are piste. They have their
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Speaker 1: like aiming their bows and arrows at the at the camera.
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Speaker 1: Like see the picture is pretty cool, yea, like get
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Speaker 1: out of here. Um. And so yeah, like this this
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Speaker 1: whole thing made the made the news cycle. And Chuck,
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Speaker 1: I imagine I take from what you said before we
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Speaker 1: started recording that you have a tad bit of disdain
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Speaker 1: for the let's see journalism that was applied to this. Yeah. Well,
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Speaker 1: first of all, should we go ahead and refute it?
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Speaker 1: Why not? Because they were not, in fact under undiscovered people. No,
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Speaker 1: And there's actually a huge, huge distinction between undiscovered people
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Speaker 1: and uncontacted or isolated people, right right, But you would
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Speaker 1: not know that by reading the Independent from London, which
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Speaker 1: I'm disappointed because I like that paper. No, I'm sorry,
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Speaker 1: I could care less about the Independence The Guardian Like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: you like the Guardian, not the Daily Mail the Independent. Uh.
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Speaker 1: Here's here's how the article opens up. Beneath the picture
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Speaker 1: of the you know, clearly savage and everything, with the
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Speaker 1: arrow pointing at the helicopter, three near naked figures are
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Speaker 1: visible in the forest clearing. Two of them are in
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Speaker 1: their bodies daubed with a red dye and are aiming
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Speaker 1: their bows at the sky. A third figure appears to
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Speaker 1: be a woman, her body blackened and only her pale
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Speaker 1: hands and face betraying her natural color. This remarkable photograph
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Speaker 1: is the first proof of existence of one of the
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Speaker 1: world's last uncontacted tribes. So they do say uncontacted. That's good,
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Speaker 1: but not everybody did, though sure it's a little overblown.
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Speaker 1: That was a fine dramatic reading their chuck. I think
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Speaker 1: the funniest thing that would have happened is if he
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Speaker 1: would have shot that arrow and it would have somehow
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Speaker 1: disrupted the propeller of the helicopter and it would have,
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Speaker 1: you know, landed safely on the beach for them to
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Speaker 1: be eaten. That would have been a nice ending. There
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Speaker 1: are tons of rumors of cannibalism about undiscovered purple right. Um.
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Speaker 1: In this specific case, there is a guy named Carlos
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Speaker 1: dos race Moreles. My Spanish is a little rusty, but
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Speaker 1: I think that's about right. Um. And uh he is
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Speaker 1: an Indian expert. I just made air quotes and these
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Speaker 1: photos were taken in Brazil, right Um. This guy laid
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Speaker 1: the search for this tribe, right and um. As the
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Speaker 1: as I guess he kind of watched with horror hopefully
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Speaker 1: as they were described as undiscovered and knowing had ever
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Speaker 1: found them before. He's he came out and was like, wait, wait,
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Speaker 1: now I've been following these people for the last twenty years,
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Speaker 1: so they're not undiscovered. See, I thought he that was
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Speaker 1: part of the deploy for him. That was he taken
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Speaker 1: aback by that, you think? I thought, maybe that's how
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Speaker 1: we got the funding to get the research team, by
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Speaker 1: saying that we'll find out. Well, let's talk about it.
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Speaker 1: Is it even possible to be undiscovered? Well that's what
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Speaker 1: this podcast is about, buddy. And you know what, it's
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Speaker 1: kind of impossible these days. Yeah. We have things like GPS,
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Speaker 1: we have things like heat sensors that can be attached
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Speaker 1: to airplanes, which you know, body heat sensors. Um. There
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Speaker 1: is almost complete and total encroachment and harnessment of any
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Speaker 1: square parcel of land on the planet. Yeah, most everywhere.
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Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean that there aren't people who are
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Speaker 1: who live outside I guess the French, who live primitively
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Speaker 1: and remain in a I guess primitive state. These are
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Speaker 1: the uncontacted people. Yeah, isolation. Basically, they first they called
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Speaker 1: them undiscovered, then they say uncontacted, and then they finally
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Speaker 1: settle on isolated, which means more than anything is they
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Speaker 1: don't want any part of us, Yeah, and that we
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Speaker 1: don't want a part of them, because we're always interested.
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Speaker 1: We are, and usually with um murderous results. Right. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: these people have learned the hard way. Um. And some
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Speaker 1: of these uncontacted tribes also, we should say, don't even
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Speaker 1: we have no idea what they call themselves. Right. So
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Speaker 1: there's this there's a group actually called Survival International, and
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Speaker 1: they are dedicated to preserving indigenous ways of lives these tribes,
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Speaker 1: for these for uncontacted tribes who have rejected modernization. Right,
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Speaker 1: because that's the thing you think about it, when it's
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Speaker 1: undiscovered or they're uncontacted, you you kind of pointed out,
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Speaker 1: we just tend to think like, oh, they don't know
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Speaker 1: about civilization or you know, these poor fools they don't
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Speaker 1: know about you know, television or running theft Auto six
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Speaker 1: And they would clearly be better off if we gave
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Speaker 1: them TV, or made them Christians, or or did whatever
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Speaker 1: you know, made them slaves. Yeah, which we have a fine,
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Speaker 1: fine tradition of doing. And um in this Uh, who's
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Speaker 1: this kid who wrote this? Patrick Kaiger? Yeah, I hadn't either,
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Speaker 1: but he's pretty good. Yeah, he does say that it
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Speaker 1: goes back to Columbus, it goes well back before that. Um.
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Speaker 1: The Portuguese in particular love to enslave Africans, and actually
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Speaker 1: African tribes used to enslave one another. They had a
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Speaker 1: completely different method and system of slavery. Uh. Slaves were
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Speaker 1: treated much better among African tribes, especially West African tribes,
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Speaker 1: um so where they would eat at the same table
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Speaker 1: as the people that own them. And of course the
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Speaker 1: Romans use slaves. The jew spent a good portion of
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Speaker 1: their history as slaves of the Egyptians. So I mean
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Speaker 1: whenever we come upon new people or subjugate them, we
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Speaker 1: we have a history of enslaving them. Like, yeah, we
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Speaker 1: tend to conquer. Like Chris Columbus met the very friendly
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Speaker 1: Arowack people and instead of saying, well, we can learn
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Speaker 1: from them, he thought they would make really good servants, right,
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Speaker 1: how hard working they are and they don't even speak English,
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Speaker 1: so who cares, right, exactly? Well. They were also looked
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Speaker 1: upon as savages are less than human, which definitely aided
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Speaker 1: the subjugation of their their I don't know, blood right,
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Speaker 1: Do you know why? Why? Because back before everything was
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Speaker 1: discovered and there was still a lot of undiscovered land
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Speaker 1: and they were making maps, the map makers would often
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Speaker 1: chart these undiscovered lands as being filled with you know,
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Speaker 1: mutant human beings and scary beasts for some reason, like
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Speaker 1: here there be monsters because we haven't gotten around the
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Speaker 1: mapping this area yet, so just assume that there's some
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Speaker 1: sort of water serpent that's going to eat your boat. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I guess I don't know why. They tended to strike
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Speaker 1: fear into people into explorers instead of saying there might
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Speaker 1: be very friendly people. Maybe caution fear of the unknown.
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Speaker 1: You think so, But Josh, these days, virtually every corner
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Speaker 1: of the Earth has been explored, except for obviously parts
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Speaker 1: of Antarctica and map which I had never heard of, you,
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Speaker 1: whereas in Brazil, and they said that this territory in
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Speaker 1: northern Brazil is still unexplored forest, right, so it's possible
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Speaker 1: there are undiscovered people out there maybe, right, If there
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Speaker 1: are undiscovered people out there, they are in big trouble
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Speaker 1: because if the uncontacted or isolated people are any indication
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Speaker 1: in their polite um, then yeah, any undiscovered people are
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Speaker 1: really kind of screwed. Um. You know, we talked about
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Speaker 1: Chris Columbus and subjugating people and actually, uh, Columbus is
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Speaker 1: quite the little genocidal maniac was. We covered that in
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Speaker 1: one of the other podcasts we did. We did um
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Speaker 1: because not only did he enslave them, he killed them,
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Speaker 1: had them killed like the entire groups of people are
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Speaker 1: assumed to have been wiped out by European colonization, and
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Speaker 1: not just through brute force, but this, uh, this type
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Speaker 1: of genocide, and especially if you look at a genocide
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Speaker 1: as the the by its definition that it's the systematic
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Speaker 1: wiping out of a group, right like a people or
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Speaker 1: a population, then it's still continues today as recently as
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Speaker 1: the the eighties the nineties in Brazil are you talking
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Speaker 1: about the microbes or are you talking about outright violence,
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Speaker 1: violence specifically against the akun Zoo. Yes, Josh, the akun
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Speaker 1: Zoo who seemed like a friendly tribe that grew corn
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Speaker 1: and hunted and remote Brazil for thousands of years until
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Speaker 1: they were discovered and it was discovered that their land
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Speaker 1: could be used for soy cultivation and cattle right so
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Speaker 1: uh and log actually right, So the companies put in
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Speaker 1: logging roads and into these this virgin territory where the
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Speaker 1: accun Zoo lived, and they actually came upon them. And
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Speaker 1: it's part of Brazil's constitution that, um, the moment you
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Speaker 1: meet an uncontacted tribes person or an undiscovered person, all
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Speaker 1: work stops. So with the logging companies and the soybean
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Speaker 1: farming concerns and the cattle ranchers did was higher assassins
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Speaker 1: like death squads. When they did meet the accun Zoo
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Speaker 1: uh and sent them in and actually masacred them with guns.
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Speaker 1: These people used bows and arrows, and these guys came
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Speaker 1: in with machine guns and killed all but seven of
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Speaker 1: the entire tribe. Then they fled, sadly they fled, and
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Speaker 1: into just last year, a newspaper reported that there were
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Speaker 1: only five living a kun zoo in the world and
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Speaker 1: that was that wasn't you know, very shameful. Yeah, but
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Speaker 1: they are not Josh the most isolated tribe according to
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Speaker 1: Survival International, aren't they know? That would be the Sentinel Ees.
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Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of these guys? Now? I hadn't
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Speaker 1: and I saw that video you sent me. There's a
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Speaker 1: clip on you tube. Yeah, I think what did you
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Speaker 1: just search the centinnalies and it came up there was
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Speaker 1: a couple of eclips, I think nat g. I went
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Speaker 1: down there and they did the same thing. They came
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Speaker 1: out of the jungle onto the beach and what it
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Speaker 1: looked like in the video, or that is their interpretation,
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Speaker 1: was they were making friendly gestures. Um. I did see
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Speaker 1: another one where they had the bow and arrow out
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Speaker 1: and um I was laughing that. When I was watching
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Speaker 1: it earlier, part of me expected like hippie Rob to
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Speaker 1: come out as their leader. Yeah, he's like the God,
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Speaker 1: He's like Brando and Apocalypse now exactly. Um and the
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Speaker 1: Sentinel needs Josh where they They are believed to be
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Speaker 1: descended from the very first humans in Africa, and technically
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Speaker 1: we all are, but These people are directly descended from
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Speaker 1: the first group that migrated out about sixty thousand years ago. Right.
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Speaker 1: They live on the and Aman Islands, Indian Ocean. And
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Speaker 1: did you notice how clear that water was and how
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Speaker 1: white those beaches were. I wouldn't leave either, dude, it
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Speaker 1: was gorgeous. Needs TV and Xbox when you've got that,
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Speaker 1: you know, Right, So these people will come out of
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Speaker 1: the jungle if you throw coconuts into the water at
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Speaker 1: the beach. That's what they were doing, right, what was it. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: these this group of people were sitting there throwing coconuts
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Speaker 1: into the water, and the uh sentinels came out and
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Speaker 1: we're like, thanks for the coconuts. Well, they probably thought
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Speaker 1: it's raining coconuts from the giant monster. But they are
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Speaker 1: actually not primitive Stone age folks from what they say.
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Speaker 1: Survival International says they're actually do make tools and weapons
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Speaker 1: from recovered metal from shipwrecks. Right, pretty cool. They are
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Speaker 1: actually not threatened. They're very isolated and relatively uncontacted. Um,
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Speaker 1: but they're not threatened. They live on an island that
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Speaker 1: no one really has any interest in, right exactly. But
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Speaker 1: as we saw with the a Kunzo though, UM if
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Speaker 1: there is money to be made off of the indigenous land,
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Speaker 1: you're you're in trouble. Soy oil, Yeah, Cattle Survival International
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Speaker 1: actually named all of those oil um farming, cattle and
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Speaker 1: logging UH as the the dominant threat to uncontacted tribes.
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Speaker 1: There's supposedly an estimated hundred uncontacted tribes in the world. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I was kind of surprised. That's a lot. And it's
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Speaker 1: sad that these people are around for sixty thou years
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Speaker 1: doing their thing, doing their thing long before us, and
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Speaker 1: we just come in and say, hey, this would make
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Speaker 1: a great soy farm. So I'm going to massacre you.
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Speaker 1: Then about the bail out and they're like, we're staying here,
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Speaker 1: not for us now. So UM, there's five regions that
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Speaker 1: are under the greatest threat right now and they're in Brazil, Paraguay,
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Speaker 1: and Peru. And actually there's tons of evidence there's groups
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Speaker 1: dedicated like Rival International UM and other n g o s.
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Speaker 1: And then there's actually government ministries set up in Brazil
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Speaker 1: and in Peru and I think Paraguay UM that are
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Speaker 1: in charge of keeping track of these uncontacted tribes, which
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Speaker 1: is really difficult to do UH. And a lot of times.
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Speaker 1: These uncontacted tribes are slivers offshoots of other tribes that
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Speaker 1: have had their land disturbed by logging or um mining
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Speaker 1: oil companies. So they would join up with another tribe
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Speaker 1: and you know, they just take off into the forest.
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Speaker 1: No one would know how many there were, that kind
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Speaker 1: of thing, but yeah, they would be living primitively, but
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Speaker 1: they're getting pushed further and further out or being massacred,
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Speaker 1: or they're coming into contact with disease. Right, Yeah, that's
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Speaker 1: what I'm talking about with the microbes. Violence is obviously
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Speaker 1: a big threat, but they say that a bigger threat
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Speaker 1: are uh, these people that these tribes that lack communities
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Speaker 1: to these awful diseases that twentieth century man has twenty
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Speaker 1: century man, excuse me, sure it's the future. Yeah, uh yeah,
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Speaker 1: there's actually uh that favorite book of mine in four
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Speaker 1: Charles C. Man talks about how there's an estimated hundred
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Speaker 1: million people living on in the America's uh in four
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Speaker 1: and then I think nine were wiped out by smallpox,
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Speaker 1: thank you, like within a few decades. And Josh, it
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Speaker 1: didn't just happen way back then, like you said. In
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Speaker 1: the eighties, the some Christian missionaries made contact with the
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Speaker 1: Zoe tribe in Brazil, and in pretty short form, forty
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Speaker 1: five members of that tribe died from the flu, malaria,
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Speaker 1: and respiratory diseases. Just like that. And uh, more recently,
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Speaker 1: in nine half of the Maroon whoa maroona whoa tribe
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Speaker 1: I think in Brazil. Uh, they were contacted by illegal
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Speaker 1: loggers and half of the tribe was wiped out, um
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Speaker 1: from respiratory illnesses. I think. So it's not like to
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Speaker 1: bring up one of our favorite movies again. It's not
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Speaker 1: like bringing orange soda to the Waponi Woo. Joe versus
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Speaker 1: the Volcano. Oh yeah, it's not like that in real life.
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Speaker 1: I thought you were talking about, Um, the gods must
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Speaker 1: be crazy. Not another good one though. But it's not
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Speaker 1: like the Joe Versus Volcano. It's not all happy, go lucky.
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Speaker 1: They usually make contact with them. And even in the
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Speaker 1: case of the Christian missionaries who were trying to do
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Speaker 1: good I guess, and ended up killing a lot of them,
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Speaker 1: and the Brazilian government stepped in and actually kicked them
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Speaker 1: out the religious group and said now you gotta get
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Speaker 1: out of here. Yeah. And apparently even when the thing
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Speaker 1: is when contact is made as safely as possible and
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Speaker 1: there's a medical contingency plan in place. Uh, it's expected
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Speaker 1: that a lot of the tribes people will die. But
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Speaker 1: if there's if it's if they're made through illegal loggers
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Speaker 1: or a Christian missionary group that doesn't know what they're doing,
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Speaker 1: then uh, yeah, a lot of people die. If not
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Speaker 1: the entire group. Right, That tribe did recover, though, we
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Speaker 1: should note, yeah, which is good news to get out
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Speaker 1: of here Christian missionary so we can live peacefully and helpfully.
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Speaker 1: So Chuck, is it good to even contact these people? Well,
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Speaker 1: it can be good and bad because obviously if you
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Speaker 1: make contact and you know a little bit about their
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Speaker 1: way of life, you can protect them. But it's also,
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Speaker 1: like this newspaper article, it also opens them up to
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Speaker 1: a being invaded or watched or in this case, what
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Speaker 1: what was the the tourism trip? Tell him about that
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Speaker 1: that's awful savage tourism. Yeah. Actually, the guy who um
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Speaker 1: was responsible for leading the expedition that produced those photographs
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Speaker 1: that made the paper in two thousand and eight was
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Speaker 1: apparently approached by travel agents who wanted him to set
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Speaker 1: up a savage tourism trip, which can't you just see
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Speaker 1: a bunch of like fat white Germans and Americans Like
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Speaker 1: who I want to touch you right now? Your whole
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Speaker 1: tribes wiped out And now let's get back on the
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Speaker 1: cruise ship and look at the ice sculpture. Like like
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Speaker 1: I said, Um, the Brazil has it in has mentioned
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Speaker 1: uncontacted and undiscovered people in its constitution in large part
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Speaker 1: because of that unexplored forests in that just that one territory.
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Speaker 1: They have a real You don't have that in America,
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Speaker 1: Like we don't have to worry about, you know, how
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Speaker 1: to treat undiscovered tribes. We figured out how to treat
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Speaker 1: the ones we're familiar with badly enough, right, Um. But
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Speaker 1: so Brazil apparently recognizes that like, hey, this is your land,
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Speaker 1: right and you legally own it. If you're an uncontacted
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Speaker 1: or isolated tribe, nobody can touch it, but then has
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Speaker 1: a really terrible history of following through on stopping people
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Speaker 1: from going in logging in oil. Peru's history is even worse.
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Speaker 1: They have some uncontacted tribes and threatened uncontacted tribes and
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Speaker 1: Peru's president is like, I'm not even sure they exist.
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Speaker 1: And by the way, the French oil company that's working
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Speaker 1: in this area where they supposedly exist. I've now just
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Speaker 1: decreed that their work is a national nessas city. So
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Speaker 1: when you when you're an uncontacted tribe and you're butting
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Speaker 1: heads with an oil company, you're gonna lose. Yeah, I
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Speaker 1: would say so, but I will say Paraguay, hats off
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Speaker 1: to Paraguay because they actually the environmental nice Chuck just
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Speaker 1: took his head off to the environmental ministry revoked the
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Speaker 1: license of a ranching concern that was just decimating and
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Speaker 1: I don't mean in the literal like removing ten percent term, right,
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Speaker 1: I mean like decimating all you Latin speakers out there,
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Speaker 1: the um the this land that technically belongs to the
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Speaker 1: indigenous uncontacted tribes there. So so they booted them out
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Speaker 1: or they just took away their permits. They took away
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Speaker 1: their permits, which is pretty much tantamount to booting them out. Awesome. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's just so sad that when you know, such a
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Speaker 1: modernist point of view to see these undiscovered or uncontacted
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Speaker 1: people and think that their savages and that their way
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Speaker 1: of life is is savage and primitive. It's just they
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Speaker 1: were here first. Well, I mean we were, we were,
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Speaker 1: we were all here first, we were all here at
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Speaker 1: the same time. But it's just a complete lack of
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Speaker 1: recognition of other people's choices. Yeah, and in respect for
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Speaker 1: other other cultures in ways of life, and because again
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Speaker 1: didn't fly around here. There's no grand theft auto in
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Speaker 1: the jungle. No, there's not. No, there's no auto. If
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Speaker 1: you want to learn more about people undiscovered or otherwise,
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Speaker 1: you should try typing in people in the Andy serge
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Speaker 1: bar How stuff works dot com. It brings up a
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Speaker 1: what Chuck listener mail, Yes, Josh, it is. And before
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Speaker 1: we do that, we want to send a thank you
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Speaker 1: to Dan of the pottery Dan Dan made, Dan made.
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Speaker 1: He has a little uh etsy website, Dan made dot
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Speaker 1: et s y dot com and he makes pottery. And
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Speaker 1: he sent us some really awesome coffee mugs. Yes, Dan
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Speaker 1: made very cool mugs. And actually it's my my work mug.
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Speaker 1: Now that's what do he is? I noticed cool detail.
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Speaker 1: You've got an octopus on yours with a pipe smoking
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Speaker 1: a pipe. I can't tell what mine is. It's some
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Speaker 1: little dude. But it's just got cool details, got swirls
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Speaker 1: in the bottom, little intentions, and only some parts of
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Speaker 1: it are glazed and others raw. It's Dan, Maide knows
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Speaker 1: what he's doing. So thanks Dan, and you know what,
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Speaker 1: you want to bring up people who have been sending
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Speaker 1: us little gifts, and it's just really nice to come
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Speaker 1: her name that sent us the Twinkie the homemade Twinkie
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Speaker 1: the Kid shirts. I don't remember her name. She's like
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Speaker 1: Kaya or something like Kyla. I believe she should write
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Speaker 1: in because I told her that I would mention her
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Speaker 1: little website too. Okay, yeah, yeah, we got Twinky the
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Speaker 1: we wanted something. So with that listener, ma'am all right,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna call this, uh organ donation details from someone
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Speaker 1: who knows. Uh. Hi, Josh and Chuckers and Jerry. I'm
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Speaker 1: an anesthesiologist who specializes an organ transplantation, specifically livers and kidneys.
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Speaker 1: In fact, we performed a liver transplant just last night
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Speaker 1: and I'm home resting after what is always an exhausting procedure. Ah,
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Speaker 1: he thought we might want a few more details about
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Speaker 1: organ donations. So he says this um they do not
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Speaker 1: get to meet the donor and the recipient until after
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Speaker 1: a period of time, usually a year, and only after
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Speaker 1: both agreed to meet. But we also had people that
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Speaker 1: wrote in and said they met like weeks later, So
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Speaker 1: it might vary by hospital or state. Yeah, I'm not sure,
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Speaker 1: or maybe there's just an agreement you go into. But
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Speaker 1: he says, they can trade letters and get very basic,
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Speaker 1: unidentifiable information about each other, but it all gets censored
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Speaker 1: by the organ procurement organization. This is because of this
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Speaker 1: recipient does not live or the organ fails, the recipient
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Speaker 1: or donor won't blame the donor or in their families. Also,
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Speaker 1: if the organ works, they don't want the parties involved
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Speaker 1: feeling unduly indebted to the donor. After all, it's supposed
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Speaker 1: to be a free gift with no strings attached. After
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Speaker 1: they have both had time to adjust to their new
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Speaker 1: lives and agreed and prepared to meet, they can meet.
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Speaker 1: That being said, people can still find each other if
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Speaker 1: they are looking in turn to the same websites specifically
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Speaker 1: designed to link donor to recipient. Although it is strongly discouraged,
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Speaker 1: So maybe that was the deal. They did it in serpticism.
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Speaker 1: So I thought somebody came up at the website and
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Speaker 1: make money off of people who want to meet the
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Speaker 1: people who donated a kidney to them. What a great
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Speaker 1: world we live in. I thought your listeners would want
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Speaker 1: to know this, and I hope it encourages would be
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Speaker 1: donors that they don't have to meet the recipient if
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Speaker 1: they think it would be too difficult with guards. Todd.
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Speaker 1: Thanks Todd the anesthesiologist. Yeah, and didn't he say that
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Speaker 1: it's uh like you. You die very easily if you're
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Speaker 1: over anesthetized during a liver Yeah, he's a ps here.
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Speaker 1: If you want to know why an anesty caesiologist would
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Speaker 1: need to specialize in liver transplantation, ask yourself if you
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Speaker 1: would like to wake up during a procedure where patients
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Speaker 1: don't tolerate anesthetics very well, and if you would like
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Speaker 1: your new liver to have something to cleanse. He says,
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Speaker 1: very mysterious. Stud I just asked myself that, and I
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