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INTERVIEW: DJ Vlad On Solving Tupac's Murder, Calling Out Drake and Khaled, VladTV Viral Interviews + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.
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  Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club morning.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody is DJ n V Charlamagne the guy. We are
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  Speaker 3: the Breakfast Club. You got a special guest in the building. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: indeed I know miss DJ Vlad, but everybody else knows
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  Speaker 3: Miss blad TV. Flat here, what a lad?
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  Speaker 1: What's up? And Charlaine, it's been a minute.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we really can't call you DJ bladinmore. Why
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  Speaker 2: do we call you? You haven't been a DJ, but.
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  Speaker 1: He started off as a DJ exactly. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 4: First of all, Blad, I want to tell you congratulations
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  Speaker 4: because you you are responsible for helping the family of
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  Speaker 4: Tupac's your corps get justice enclosure. Because of some of
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  Speaker 4: your interviews you did with Keith d on Blad TV.
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  Speaker 4: I have already said it. I think you should win
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  Speaker 4: a Peabody. If you was any other journalist outside of
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  Speaker 4: hip hop, I think you would get get some type
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  Speaker 4: of an award for that.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: How do you feel?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the purpose wasn't really for him to get
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  Speaker 1: locked up or anything else like that, because, as I've
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  Speaker 1: said before, when Las Vegas ped reached out to me,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't respond. I didn't cooperate. You know, my whole thing.
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  Speaker 1: Was this the story I'd heard for I mean for
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  Speaker 1: a long time, for close to about eighteen years or so,
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  Speaker 1: and by actually sitting down with Keify getting his whole
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  Speaker 1: story from beginning to end, at the end of the interview,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I pretty much saw the case at
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  Speaker 1: this point. A shout out to Greg Kating, who actually
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  Speaker 1: got the you know, the original KVD confession. But in
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  Speaker 1: terms of the public that was the first time Kify
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  Speaker 1: actually told the entire story of how it happened, what
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  Speaker 1: led up to it, what happened that night, what happened afterwards. So,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, ultimately, I don't think anyone could really be
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  Speaker 1: surprised welcome.
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  Speaker 3: That was going to ask, you know, during the interview,
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  Speaker 3: because it's crazy when he was when he was arrested.
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  Speaker 3: You go down this rabbit hole of things that you
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  Speaker 3: know that you've investigated, that you've done interviews with. I
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  Speaker 3: thought from maybe the interviews it made it seem like
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  Speaker 3: he had a deal already on the table. Was any
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  Speaker 3: of that true? Like that thought that was the reason
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  Speaker 3: why he was able to talk about.
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  Speaker 1: It, right, So he had a profit agreement. So when
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  Speaker 1: Greg Katy met up with him, keefd was Greg Katying.
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  Speaker 1: Greg Katy was was an LAPD investigator who was looking
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  Speaker 1: into the entire case. So he had caught Keefe in
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  Speaker 1: this huge PCP ring and Keify was facing life in prison.
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  Speaker 1: So what happened was there's something called a profit agreement
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  Speaker 1: aka queen for a day, meaning that you could sit
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  Speaker 1: down with someone and they could ask you a whole
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  Speaker 1: bunch of questions and you could admit to all the
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  Speaker 1: crimes you did that day and you can't be charged
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  Speaker 1: with any of those crimes, and in exchange, they dropped
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  Speaker 1: the whole PCP case against him. He was able to
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  Speaker 1: walk free. But the thing about profit agreements, from what
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  Speaker 1: I understand, is that it's called queen for a day
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  Speaker 1: because it's only valid that particular day. So if you
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  Speaker 1: choose to retell that story afterwards, you could potentially get
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  Speaker 1: charged for it. It's a little bit of a gray area,
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  Speaker 1: you know. And I think that his lawyer is probably
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  Speaker 1: going to be fighting in terms of that. But I
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  Speaker 1: think Kefy was in an assumption that he said at
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  Speaker 1: once he could say it as many times as he wants,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't think that's the case when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to profer agreements.
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  Speaker 4: When you say that Vegas police wanted you to cooperate,
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  Speaker 4: what did that mean.
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  Speaker 1: I think they wanted the raw footage. Okay. I actually
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  Speaker 1: have the voicemails from them, like, oh, we've been trying
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  Speaker 1: to reach you and everything else like that, and I
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  Speaker 1: think they they thought that maybe there's a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: things in because we did two interviews that they could
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  Speaker 1: use in the case that we didn't publicly release. But
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  Speaker 1: if you know vlat TV and both of you have
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  Speaker 1: been on flat TV, we use damn near every second
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  Speaker 1: of the footage, so they're kind of barking up the
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  Speaker 1: wrong tree. But my whole thing was that if someone
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  Speaker 1: interviews on my platform, I'm not going to turn around
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  Speaker 1: and then work with the police against them, regardless of
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  Speaker 1: what it is that they said. It's just business wise,
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  Speaker 1: you know, in terms of my values. It's not what
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  Speaker 1: I do. So I didn't choose to cooperate.
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  Speaker 4: By the way, what could they ask you that they
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  Speaker 4: didn't hear themselves.
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  Speaker 2: It's all out.
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  Speaker 1: There, and he's done multiple interviews. It's not just Flat TV. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he did that. He did a few other ones. So
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of like.
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  Speaker 2: He wrote a book.
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  Speaker 1: He wrote a book. Well, and that's the whole thing.
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  Speaker 1: People thought that I got this whole confession out of
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  Speaker 1: the blue, like before we did the interview, we got
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  Speaker 1: a copy of the book. We read through the entire book,
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  Speaker 1: and that interview was the blueprint of that interview was
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  Speaker 1: that book. So there are certain parts where I asked
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  Speaker 1: him a question he didn't really want to answer it.
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  Speaker 1: My thing was like, well, the book says X, Y
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  Speaker 1: and Z and then so he had to kind of
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  Speaker 1: address that. But if you write a book about a crime,
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  Speaker 1: I have no problems interviewing you about the book that
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  Speaker 1: you wrote.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well I had a question.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you did this Kifid interview how long ago?
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  Speaker 1: Four years ago?
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  Speaker 2: Four years ago.
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  Speaker 3: Isn't it kind of strange that he's arrested recently opposed
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  Speaker 3: to because I mean, the book was out before you
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  Speaker 3: did the interview, so it almost seemed like nobody cared
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  Speaker 3: until actually you did the interview and it started getting
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  Speaker 3: a little press.
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  Speaker 1: Man, the wheels of justice turned slowly. You know, it
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  Speaker 1: takes a while to line everything up. You know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying, I mean, I guess. I mean, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: involved in the case, and it's really up to Las Vegas,
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  Speaker 1: PD and KIFY at the end of the day. But
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  Speaker 1: it takes a while to line something up, especially as
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  Speaker 1: epic and huge as this. And it happened what twenty
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  Speaker 1: six years ago, Yeah, back in nineteen ninety six. Like
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  Speaker 1: a lot has to be done in order to get
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  Speaker 1: a conviction, and it's not easy because the last thing
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  Speaker 1: that they want to do is go and spend you
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  Speaker 1: know whatever, potentially millions of dollars on the case for
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  Speaker 1: it to be found not guilty or just dismissed.
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  Speaker 4: Right, And it's not even just a KVD interview that
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  Speaker 4: I think, you know, I would say constitution winning something
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  Speaker 4: like a Peabody. It's all the interviews you did surrounding it.
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  Speaker 4: It's to be Grey Katy, who else?
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  Speaker 2: Who?
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  Speaker 4: Like this was the if this was the Vlad Cinematic universe,
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  Speaker 4: what would be all the interviews you got to watch
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  Speaker 4: to get the full start.
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  Speaker 1: I mean Greg, Greg Caty, who was the lead investigator,
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  Speaker 1: Chris Carroll who was the first responder that showed up,
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  Speaker 1: you know, at the scene after a po got shot
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  Speaker 1: and show got grace Edie. I mean, who's the car
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  Speaker 1: behind Tupac when he got killed?
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  Speaker 3: That was the young ladies that followed him.
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  Speaker 1: Now Edie's part of the outlaws.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if he was in that car with
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  Speaker 3: the with the young ladies.
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  Speaker 1: There were no young ladies in the car. It was
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  Speaker 1: like the cars were driving around or a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: girls like Tupac Tupac and then Pac like popped out
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  Speaker 1: the window and was like, Yo, what up? You know?
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  Speaker 1: So the ladies, you know? And I think like I
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  Speaker 1: think like Edie told me that he thought that maybe
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  Speaker 1: he was a setup by the girls, but but it wasn't.
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  Speaker 1: I guess the girls even got interviewed at one point
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  Speaker 1: they were like, no, we just saw Tupaca. We were
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  Speaker 1: calling out to him. And that's by them calling out Tupac.
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  Speaker 1: That's how Kifi and them saw that. Oh Tupac is
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  Speaker 1: right here and they've been looking for him.
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  Speaker 2: So to watch the watch the Kifi, Greg Caning.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Chris Carrol. Yeah, just a lot of pieces
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  Speaker 1: put together.
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  Speaker 3: Now did he ever say it was was Pack the
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  Speaker 3: attended target or was it Sugar the intended target? Or
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  Speaker 3: because I didn't see that, they thought Pak was grabbing
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  Speaker 3: a gun allegedly and they were returning fire or something
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  Speaker 3: like that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he didn't really. When I pressed him on that,
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  Speaker 1: he didn't really, uh, you know, admit to that. But
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  Speaker 1: from everything I heard, Like I remember, I talked to
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  Speaker 1: the co writer of that book and he told me
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  Speaker 1: that when he first met up with Kifi, he was like, look, man,
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  Speaker 1: I'm I'm very pro black, I'm very positive. How do
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  Speaker 1: you feel about, you know, your role in you know,
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  Speaker 1: killing one of you know, one of our great hip
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  Speaker 1: hop icons. And Keithy's response was, they had no business
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  Speaker 1: putting their hands on my my nephew like that, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And the thing is like everyone
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  Speaker 1: is so shocked because it's Tupac. But right now, somewhere
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  Speaker 1: in America, some some you know, gang affiliate gang member
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  Speaker 1: just got beat up and is out there grabbing their
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  Speaker 1: gun right now to go retaliate. Of course, this is
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  Speaker 1: standard procedure when it comes to this type of world.
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  Speaker 1: So so everyone's shocked because it's Tupaca. We love Tupac,
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  Speaker 1: but this is how things happen in this type of lifestyle.
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  Speaker 4: Unfortunately, how was a Pop's family respond to you?
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  Speaker 1: I haven't spoken directly to them, but a friend of
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  Speaker 1: mine who knows one of Pak's sisters, on his father's
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  Speaker 1: his biological father's side, said, you know, the family says
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  Speaker 1: thank you so much for you know, bringing some level
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  Speaker 1: of closure. But you know, you also got to understand
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  Speaker 1: that he's just got arrested. He didn't get convicted. I've
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  Speaker 1: gotten arrested, like.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that I went to prison like anyone
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  Speaker 1: can get arrested. So it's just the beginning of the process.
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  Speaker 3: Have you gotten any threats from from this ever since? No,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's interesting when you say your intention wasn't
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  Speaker 4: to solve the case. So I guess people would say, what,
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  Speaker 4: what is the point of doing all of these interviews?
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  Speaker 4: What is vlad TV's intention when he puts together all
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  Speaker 4: of these different interviews.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean when I say saw the case, my
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  Speaker 1: intention wasn't for him to be convicted, to put him
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  Speaker 1: in jail. Like I'm just a huge Tupac fan. Like
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  Speaker 1: if you you know, I loved All Eyes on Me
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  Speaker 1: is one of my favorite all time albums. I mean what,
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  Speaker 1: he's just such a charismatic individual. I mean, you could
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  Speaker 1: it'd be hard to argue that Tupac is not the
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  Speaker 1: greatest rapper of all time, you know, like shout out
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  Speaker 1: to Tabiggie, shout out to Nipsey. But if you look
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  Speaker 1: at worldwide, you see more Tupac murals around the world
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  Speaker 1: than any other rapp And that's because I think that
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  Speaker 1: outside of the rapping and the good songs, there's a
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  Speaker 1: social commentary involved in what he did. There was the
• 9:01
  Speaker 1: struggle and that everyone in every country could really relate to.
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  Speaker 1: So my whole thing was like, oh, this is my
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  Speaker 1: favorite rapper and here's a story that's unsolved. But like
• 9:10
  Speaker 1: everyone in law knew this story. It was like the
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  Speaker 1: worst kept secret in LA So let's try to put
• 9:16
  Speaker 1: it out there and bring out to the public because
• 9:18
  Speaker 1: there's so many conspiracy theories around it. Sug had him killed,
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  Speaker 1: the government had it killed, had him killed. He's in
• 9:23
  Speaker 1: Cuba somewhere, like you know what I mean, He's still alive.
• 9:26
  Speaker 1: He's you know, he faked his own death. It's like
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  Speaker 1: a lot of them. It was so ridiculous that I
• 9:31
  Speaker 1: wanted to put a piece together that that had all
• 9:33
  Speaker 1: the different angles of the same story and they're all
• 9:37
  Speaker 1: matching up. Chris Carroll story matches up, you know ed,
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  Speaker 1: I mean story matches up, you know, Greg Cating's story
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  Speaker 1: matches up, and then Keify's story is the last puzzle
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  Speaker 1: piece in that.
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  Speaker 3: Now, was you were supposed to interview keefy d again
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  Speaker 3: before he was raided up? What was that going to
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  Speaker 3: be about or what conversation was that gonna be or
• 9:53
  Speaker 3: did he reach out to you?
• 9:54
  Speaker 1: Well? Yeah, yeah, he reached out to me. We had
• 9:56
  Speaker 1: a conversation. He had already gotten arrested, when he already
• 9:58
  Speaker 1: got his house got raided or house got raided?
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  Speaker 3: Did they find a gun in there that they believe they.
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: Found bullets which had no I mean, who's going to
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: keep bullets from twenty seven years? Like it's crazy, But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: his house got raided and I'm like, all right, well,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna leave it alone. But then he reached
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  Speaker 1: out to me, had a conversation with me, and then
• 10:17
  Speaker 1: you know, his co writer was the one that who
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: I kind of communicate with a lot when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to this type of thing. They're like, he wants to
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  Speaker 1: do another interview. It's like, all right, you know, we
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: gave him a deposit. You know on the interview. He
• 10:28
  Speaker 1: hadn't asked for me paid for interview yeah, I paid
• 10:30
  Speaker 1: for for both of his interviews.
• 10:32
  Speaker 2: Pays for a lot of interviews. People don't know that
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  Speaker 2: it's like he does.
• 10:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for certain interviews and other ones that I don't
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: pay for. My regular guests all get paid. Yeah, absolutely,
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: which which makes sense.
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: Because we and T. K.
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: Kirk, all my regular guests get paid. If you see
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: him on flat TV over and over again, you know,
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: we make money, so we choose to compensate our guests
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: as well. So I mean, he reached out, We gave
• 10:56
  Speaker 1: him like a small deposit, wasn't It wasn't really a
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  Speaker 1: lot of money, And I figured that I'm probably not
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  Speaker 1: going to see this again because you know, his house
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  Speaker 1: got raided and I was hearing that there was a
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: grand jury underway and there was a possible indictment coming.
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: And from what I understand, he hit up a few
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: other outlets and got deposits from all of them. So
• 11:12
  Speaker 1: I think he was just trying to gather up money
• 11:14
  Speaker 1: because he knew that he was about to go away.
• 11:16
  Speaker 1: So it is what it is. To me. It was
• 11:18
  Speaker 1: not a big deal and it was to be expected.
• 11:20
  Speaker 2: And any truth to the rumor that he had like
• 11:22
  Speaker 2: cancer or something.
• 11:22
  Speaker 1: That's why he was like, well, originally four years ago,
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: four years ago government, if you watched the BT interview
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: that he did, he said that he has cancer. So
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: I but from what I understand, he beat it or
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: is in a remission or something like that. So I
• 11:34
  Speaker 1: think there's a certain degree of I have cancer and
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: I don't give a f about it. And I think
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: there's also a certain degree of when the tapes got released,
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: Like you know, for example, I talked to like BG Knockout,
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: who was friends with Orlando, Like I was told that
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: his family was like really upset over these confession tapes,
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: you know, him saying that you know that Orlando did
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: and everything else like that. So there was the whole
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: snitch tag that people were putting on him, and I
• 11:59
  Speaker 1: think to a certain degree he wanted to clear his
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: name and get his side of the story out there.
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: I mean me personally, when it comes to murder, it's
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: no satural limitations. I would have just kept my mouth shut.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean, like I said, they they wanted to
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: do it, so we did the interview.
• 12:15
  Speaker 2: Now you know, this situation doesn't help.
• 12:17
  Speaker 4: The rumors are the stigma of the lad curse. Curse
• 12:23
  Speaker 4: Lads defend people say a lot of folks get jammed
• 12:26
  Speaker 4: up after they interview with you. Do you ever feel
• 12:28
  Speaker 4: bad or regret, you know, doing those interviews after folks
• 12:32
  Speaker 4: get caught.
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: Well, this is the first interview that I'm aware of
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: that any level of footage that we recorded is actually
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: going to be used in a criminal case. Like every
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: other interview we've ever done, people have talked about things
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: that did in the past, and if they chose, they
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: chose to do a crime after the interview has nothing
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  Speaker 1: to do with anything in the interview, you see what
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it's kind of like the stigma's a stigma,
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: man like, like people going to say, please blattest the fans.
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  Speaker 1: I've heard it literally for fifteen years, you know, but
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: ultimately it's just not true. But in this case, I
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  Speaker 1: mean it is true to a certain degree. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: if people are mad at me for helping to solve
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  Speaker 1: the murder of the greatest rapper of all time, I'm
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  Speaker 1: okay with that.
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  Speaker 4: You've been mixing it up a lot this year, lad
• 13:20
  Speaker 4: Like it feels like it's this year, Like now always
• 13:23
  Speaker 4: wonders that you're really tweeting.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah's me.
• 13:27
  Speaker 2: How do you pick and choose what you want to
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: talk about or who you want to say.
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  Speaker 1: Something doing I mean things I feel strongly about, you know.
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  Speaker 1: I mean the fact that some of these tweets have
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: gotten three, four or five seven million impressions is a
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: little bit surprising because not like I have a huge
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: Twitter account, I have like maybe two hundred thousand followers,
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: but literally some things I said have hit a nerve
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  Speaker 1: with people.
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  Speaker 4: I wonder if lad the personality helps lad TV grow
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  Speaker 4: even more. Do you think, like you being more active,
• 13:53
  Speaker 4: doing more interviews, being more active on social media, do
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  Speaker 4: you think that helps the channel?
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  Speaker 2: Girl?
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  Speaker 1: I mean probably probably. I mean, listen, you could do
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: all the you know, the tricks that you want, but
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: ultimately it comes down to strong content. When we have
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: strong content, the channel grows and things do well. Yes,
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: you could try to go viral and everything else like that,
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: but people don't realize that a lot of times going
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: viral doesn't necessarily help your business, you know what I'm saying, Like, like,
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: we've had so many but we've had so many interviews,
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: like you know, for example, when glory Villez interviewed Neo
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: and he talked about the whole trans kids thinking about
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: how he doesn't support like a kid that's like twelve
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: years old becoming trans like, you know, the parents need
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: to step in. That went super viral and it was
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: on TMZ and it was everything else like that. But
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: a lot of times those videos they go viral that
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: are not on your own platform. So there'll be like
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: a TikTok that has like five million views, a Twitter
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: video that has two million views, but the video on
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: YouTube has like fifty thousand views, you know, and it
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: just gets stuck there. You know. Overall, that interview lost money.
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: So so people have to understand going viral and being
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: financially successful aren't always hand in hand.
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I always tell folks that I put value over viral.
• 15:03
  Speaker 4: I think this generation puts viral over value value, Like
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: there's platforms that have actual value, consistent value, as opposed
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: to these platforms who you might see every now and
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: then go viral.
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: But it ain't translating into odalards.
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: We run a business man, we have twenty employees, Like,
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: my focus is on the business, not going viral. Being
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: viral is cool and it's nice to have a look
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: here and there and so forth, but it's like we've
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: been doing it for fifteen years, and it's really about
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: the business and the catalog and the important interviews that
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: we put out there.
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: Now, also recently, you did an open letter to I
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: always call it an open letter.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: Open letter, it's kind of like an.
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: Open tweet, Yeah, to Drake and Cali. Correct, Now, why
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: did you feel like you wanted to write a tweet
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: to them?
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: Well, you sort of see what's been happening, right when
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: you used to look at the the Gayza Israel situation,
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: it's horrific. And I put out a statement about that
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: myself where I said that I feel sorry for all
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: the citizens you know from Israel and Palestine that are
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: caught up and what their leaders are choosing to do.
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I don't agree with what
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: Netanyahoo has done in Gaza in terms of blockading the
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: country and creating essentially an open air prison. And I
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: definitely don't support what Hamas did in terms of killing
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: hundreds of people, beheading babies and everything else like that.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: It's a serious topic. And when I sat back and
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: looked at it, it's like, Okay, Drake is the most
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: famous Jewish person on earth essentially, right, who else could
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: could do a tour and fill out colosseums worldwide. Who's
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: Jewish besides Drake? Right, Calin is the most famous Palestinian
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: in the world. But neither one of them has said
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: anything about this at all. And people are saying, well, well,
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: they're not politicians whatever. They influence hundreds of millions of people,
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: which ultimately has an influence on the world, and you're
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: not choosing to like to say anything. And Drake, who
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: has a Jewish mother, you know, which by Jewish law
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: makes them Jewish. But not only that, his parents got
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: divorced when he was five years old, and he grew
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: up with his Jewish mother and her Jewish relatives in
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: Forest Hills, which is a Jewish community in Toronto. He
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: had a bar mitzvah. And then when this happens, he
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: doesn't say anything because I think that he doesn't want
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: to potentially affect his record sales.
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: Well, why does he have to say anything? Him, Like,
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: why does him Mark Kalit have to say anything publicly?
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: They don't have to say anything. But I'm saying, as
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: representatives of these communities, their voices are powerful and they
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: should say something, just like I have said something.
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: What it is supposed to say, though, But you're educated
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: on the topic, clearly.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: And they don't have people around them that educate them.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: They have access to the highest level of everybody, you
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, in terms of professors, experts and
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: so forth.
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: But even being educated on something don't mean you have
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: an understanding of it to be able to express it.
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: And you don't want somebody to craft something for you
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: and just post it on your social media. And I've
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: been watching celebrities all week, you know, say some of
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: the stupidest Like I saw Justin Bieber post pray for Israel,
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: but he put up a picture of Palestine and had
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: to pray for Israel over the picture of Palatine.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: So it's kind of like one of those things. If
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: you really don't know what you're talking about, you probably
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: should just sit it.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: Out, but you probably should learn about it, because I mean,
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: this is before Drake was a rapper, he was Jewish,
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Before Khaled was a super producer, he was Palestinian. Like
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: this runs deep, you know what I'm saying that this
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: is the essence of who they are, of their families
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: and their communities. Like Drake was raised in a Jewish community.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: I'm sure his relatives feel a certain type of way
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: about this, and look like Drake has taken all types
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: of shots of Kanye, But when Kanye went on as
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: hitler Rance, Drake didn't say anything specifically about that, but
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: he takes shots at.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: Him, like if something happened with George Floyd or if
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: something happened in our community, and you say absolutely positively
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: nothing as a black person.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: Right, I don't think you have to, though.
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: I think if that's your thing, sure, but I don't
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: think you're obligated.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: You're not obligating, but I feel like you should say
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: something in your position. And my example was Tupac. When
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: something happens that's close to his community, Pac was was
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: gonna say something with the one to one though, Well yeah,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: but the caliber of you know, like where Drake is,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: where Tupac was something I.
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: Was about one on one as far as the type
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: of people they were, Like Tupac was socially conscious, you know,
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: like Tupac's mother was a radical, a black panther.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: That's not I don't I got it. That's not I'm not.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: I don't really know what's going on over there to
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: to speak on, but I get what you're saying right,
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: because if you look at what happened in our community
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: during the time with George Floyd and people were protesting.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: I think everybody that had a little bit of influence
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: as something, whether it was Lebron James, whether it's a comedian,
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: whether it's a celebrity, whether it's an actor, all of
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: these people always do.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: Those Lebron has just chimed in, but I'm.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Not always chiming in on social issues.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: That's what he's again, Michael Jordan has right, and people
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: were saying Michael Jordan didn't so.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: A criticism with him about that, Like I've chimed in.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: I've chimed in about all these issues always. I chimed
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: in about George Floyd. I mean we donated to NAACP
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: during the whole George Floyd, you know, riots and everything
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: else like that. Like I stand behind like I'm not
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: just sitting there pointy fingers, like I put my neck
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: on the line with saying things about it that other
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: people didn't like. But ultimately, I feel like when you're
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: at a certain level, like you have a responsibility because
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: you have so many people like you could shift global
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: thought with just a simple statement.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: But doesn't agree Shift Globe they interview jo Rule about
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: my statement.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: I saw that, But when I saw your statement, I
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: thought of Joa Rue. I was like, I don't want
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: to hear from drinking caller at a time like this,
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: you know, But because to me, I'm like, what if
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: drinking Kalen are doing things behind the scenes. I think
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: that's more powerful than a tweet or an Instagram postry.
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: You're not going to change people's minds on a seventy
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: five year old situation.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: How long had it just been going on for? How long?
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Thousands of years?
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Thousands?
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Yes, Oh shoot, I know thousands, Okay, No, I mean,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: Like seventy five.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean it's been around for seventy five. But
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, but there's been a confident that's been going
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: on forever. I mean, you could trace it back to
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: biblical times, is what I'm saying. It's a very complicated,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: messed up situation, and I honestly my heart goes out
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: to both parties.
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: And that's exactly when I'm watching, when I'm at home
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: watching seeing in an MSNBC, I don't know where people are from.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: All I see is people heard.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: People to dead.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's I'm just like, yeah, this
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: is terrible.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Twenty some Americans got killed in the process. I mean
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: that they went to a festival and just open fired.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: I knew that, killing hundreds and then and then you know,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: they went and start cutting off baby's heads. Like it's horrific.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: It's horrific, you know what I'm saying. But but you know,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: but I'm not a fan of you know. I mean,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of people feel like, if you
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: say anything bad about Israeli government, you're anti Semitic. And
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: I think that that's stupid. That's like saying you have
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: to support Trump or else you're anti American. No, you
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: could not like Trump and be pro American. You cannot
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: like net Yahoo and be pro you know, Jewish. You
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like the people are caught up
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: in this bullshit, you know what I mean. I mean,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: do you think that the people in Gaza are happy
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: that their buildings are being destroyed because Hamas chose to
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: do this? You know, crazy? You know attack Now people
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: are homeless, people are you know, have no electricity. I
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: heard the main power plant just got taken out, you know,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: they're just trying to live their lives and now they're
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: caught up in a situation that other people have thrown
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: them into and it's fucked up. And I don't want
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: it to turn into a Jewish versus Muslim, Muslim versus
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Jewish thing, because I have very close Muslim friends, you know,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: shout out to Napoleon, you know, shout out to you
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: know a lot of people who I do was, who
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: I have a lot of love for. But yeah, man, it's said,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: I just.
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: Don't want us to have a because I already think
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: America has like a healthy, unhealthy obsession with celebrity, and
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: like we're always looking for celebrity to fix.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: The world problems.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: Like when I when I start, I promise you when
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: I was the first time I heard about this, I
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: did not think of Drake A.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Col.
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: I went to people like scholars and academics, people I
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: know who actually know things about this situation, and I
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: asked them, Yo, man, you know what kind of global
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: impact is this going to have?
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: You know, what exactly is happening right now?
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: You know, that's the people I want to hear from.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, But like Charlotte May, like before you were on
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: the radio. You were black and you had to deal.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: You have a black family and you understand black issues,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: like you know, like you you could injure, like you
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: could walk out of the breakfast club right now and
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: become a private citizen and never have to do anything,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: but you'll still be black, you know what I'm saying.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: So it's like certain things should run deep with you,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: you know, with everyone.
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: We don't know if they don't though, Like we don't
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: know if we don't know how Drake a Kala feels
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: about it, Like what do we want to Instagram.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Post a tweet.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: That's true because we don't know what they're doing. They
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: could be behind it.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Just you know, name me a more famous Palastinian than Cal.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: I'm with you, but I don't know how. I can't
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: say he don't feel anything about the situation because he didn't.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Pot he's not, but he not speaking about it. But
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: he's speaking about his new Jordans, you know what I'm saying.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: He's doing sneaker shopping right now. You know, Drake is
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: doing this whole, this whole like literally writing paragraphs about
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Joe Budden because his feelings were hurt or album criticisms
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: so it's not like they're too busy. They have time
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: to put out things, you know, like for example, like
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Andrew Taate, uh was disparaging Canadian men. Did you see that? Yeah?
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: He was saying, oh, yeah, you know, you know what
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about it. He was saying, oh, a man
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: from Canada, There's no such thing. Drake's responds. Drake responds,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: green light on Andrew Tate. So so when Canada gets insulted,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: he needs to come up and say something. But when
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: his own community that he grew up with, his mother,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: his everyone's like that, he's remaining silent.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: You want to put green light on a mass.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: I do not want to do that, absolute absolutely, I'm
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: not going to stay behind that now Jesus. But I
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: feel like he should say something. And I mean I
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: mean clearly. I mean, Drake knows about me. He sees this,
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: you know he I'm sure this is honest radar. I'm
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: sure it's on Callent's radar, especially now you know what
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: I mean that The tweet has like three million impressions.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: But and by the way, it has only been what
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: when did when did they yesterday? No, I'm talking when
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: did the festival happened a couple.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Of days ago, a couple of days ago.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Well hopefully hopefully.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: Because people of that power and that you know, with
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: that influence, to your point, they can't just randomly jump
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: out there and post something. They want to probably take
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: a beat and let's figure out something really.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Powerful to do. Like I heard Floyd Maywe was sending
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: like his gets.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: You know, that's that's something that takes thought, Like I
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: want to I don't want to just post like everybody else.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: I want to come out and actually do something for people.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: So Drake took a lot of thought when he was
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: talking about Joe Bunden being broken flying first class on
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: special occasions. It took like it took like he has
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: a seven sixty seven jet and like, you know what
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, like people choose to do what they want
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: to do, and I'm going to stand behind this. These
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: are two very powerful voices and they have huge fan
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: bases behind them. And right now we're in a very
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: divisive time where people are taking sides.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: And which I don't understand, by the way.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: But this is this is the reality. People are taking sides,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: and you know, people are getting canceled and losing their jobs,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: everything else like that over it. And I'm not saying
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: to say ridiculous, crazy things, but you know, I put
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: out a tweet that basically said, I feel sorry for
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: both you know, I really feel sorry for both parties
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: and the people they're getting caught up in it, you know,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: regardless of what my background is and something that could
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: be said and put together by one of these guys
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: or both of them without getting canceled or ruining their careers.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: But I think ultimately, and in my tweet, I think
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: they're too worried about staying relevant, staying hot, and not
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: getting a certain group of people not supporting them anymore.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: That's what I think.
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I just don't see what a drake a calid
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: post is going to do to change anything that's going
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: on over there.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Did you see what John Lennon did when he was alive,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: John John Lennon did Leonard uh Peltier. I think John
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Lennon did a whole thing where he got behind it
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: was like this Native American guy who was arrested for protesting,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: and there's a whole story behind it, and he did
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: a whole concert behind him and everything else like that,
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: and Leonard Pelte ended up being freed because at the
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: end of the day, John Lennon was such a huge voice.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: That's a different circumstance though, Like that's an actual action.
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: That's somebody who's in prison. I don't know what he
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: was in prison for. But you hold a concert, you
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: raise awareness to it. Like, I don't see what could
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: Drake and Kalen do the start.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Drake did a free Larry Hoover concert.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: That makes more sense because that's an actual action, Like
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: that's something that raised awayness fort hopefully Larry who can
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: get free?
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: Like what can they do to stop a thousand year
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: old wold?
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: We can't stop? And you know, and he didn't stop
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Larry Hoover from still being in prison, right, Larry Hoover
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: still locked up, But he put his voice out there
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: and he put his support out there, and it may
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: make a difference in the long run, you know what
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, like these are powerful voices.
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: You're just saying that they have these platforms you'd like, Yes,
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: I understand what you're saying.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: I just I've never seen them do that, so I
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: don't know why they.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: And they haven't. Yeah, and that's that's unfortunate. And this
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: is why I think that as time goes on and
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: we're talking about many years in the future, people are
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: still talking about Tupac to this day absolutely because of
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: what he said, because of what he did and what
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: he stood for, and other people are just going to
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: be pop artists that, you know, after they pass away
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: and their fans eventually start to pass away, their relevance
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: will pass away as well. They won't live on for
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: you know, eternity like the iconic people that I mentioned,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: like a Tupac or Bob Marley. But but they're they're
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: free and do whatever it is, you know, whatever they
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: want to do. I'm just putting out my opinion on it.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: I want to go back for one second because I
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: just thought about something and maybe you can clear it up.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: So recently in the news, people are saying that Tupac
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: excuse me, that Diddy was partly responded responsive for being
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: killed and he lined pock up. Now with all these interviews,
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: have anybody said anything close to that.
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  Speaker 1: Or even Okay, So, according to Kifi d he had
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: a meeting with Puffy and according to him, Puffy said,
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  Speaker 1: I'll give a million dollars to get rid of Tupac
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  Speaker 1: and Shug because they're putting all this pressure on me
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  Speaker 1: and everything else like that. This is not my words
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: as a Kifi's words. I remembering Greg Kating about it,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: because he questioned Keify about this. From from Greg Kating's
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: point of view, it didn't sound like, Okay, if you
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: do this, I'm gonna give this money to you, and
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: here's how we're gonna do and so forth. It was
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: more of a frustration. It was like two people talking like, man,
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: I can't stand these guys. I'll do anything to get
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: rid of him, you know. According to According to to
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Greg Katie, so the shooting happened. According to Kify in
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: our interview, he said that Puffy called him and said
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: was that us don't know if it's true or not.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: This is this is strictly according to Kifi. Now when
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: you look at when you go deeper into the story,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: Keify said that Eric von Zip, who was an affiliate,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: a New York guy who's an affiliate of Puffy, was
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: the one that gave him the gun to do the
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: shooting that night. And according to Kifi Uh, Puffy gave
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: a million dollars to Eric von Zip to then hand
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: over to Kify for the shooting. But you know, according
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: to to the people involved, Eric van Zip kept the
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: money for himself. Now did this happen? Did this not happen?
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I interviewed Tk Kirkland, who was roommates
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: with Eric von Zip, very close friends. When I asked,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: do you think this is probable? He said, knowing Eric
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: von Zip, yeah, that's probably what happened. I remember I
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: interviewed Mike Tyson and he talked about how him and
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: von Zip essentially.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: His won Zip.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Now, no, he's dead. He's dead, Okay, Yeah, he died
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: of cancer some years back. This is why we're able
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: to kind of really talk about this. Mike Tyson told
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: me a story in our interview how he was hanging
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: out with von Zip and like Don King came up
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: with a bag of money and Eric von Zip essentially
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: robbed him for the money. They came hold on me,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: just hold on to this and kind of pushed Don
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: King out the door, and they just kept the money.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: So Zip has a history of robbing people essentially, So
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: did this happen? Did this not happen? Did Puffy really
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: pay a million dollars? Did Puffy say that they want
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: him dead. It's hard to say, but twenty six years later,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: with Puffy having the best lawyers the money could buy,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: with a bunch of hearsay, with convicted felons and so forth,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: I do not see Puffy getting convicted for any of this.
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: No, that's kind of crazy of people to be even
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: putting that out out there, Like why are we Why
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: people wishing that on Puff? Like, I didn't even you
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: asked him and I forgot about that yesterday. Yeah, I
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: was like that got I even have Puffed that. I
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: don't even know what doc I was referencing when I
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: when I asked him.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: That, Yeah, you asked him that, Yeah, bravo.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: He was like, we don't entertain nonsense. Remember, Yeah.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: All right, So what's what's next with lad TV? I
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: see you stepping out of the rain. You're doing more
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: than just interviews. YOU see you doing cars, automobiles, I
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: see you doing houses. I see you doing a little
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: bit of everything.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, we did a car feature and you're part
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: of your car collection. We did a feature on Boosy Estates,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: you know is eighty eight acre state. We actually have
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: a whole feature we haven't put out yet on LaVar
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Balls House, and you know, for me, MTV Cribs was
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: a very important show after my life because I grew up,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: you know, as a middle class kid in the Bay Area.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: I didn't have, you know, access to mansions and everything
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: else like that, and seeing these celebrities and these houses
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: was like it was so inspirational, inspiring me too. And
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: I remember, I just thought about this recently about how
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: my favorite episode on Cribs was Tommy Lee's house in Calabasas,
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: and I remember just watching, I'm like, yo, this house
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: is beautiful, the area is beautiful. Fast forward to twenty
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: twenty two, I bought a house in Calabasas, not too
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: far from Tommy Lee's house, and I just thought about
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: how that show, you know, without me thinking about it,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: influenced me all these years to go accomplished, to go
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: get that. And you know, when you look at the
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Boosy episode at Boosey Estates, like it's such a great episode.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: I mean it's gotten like two million views. Boosey bought
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: eighty eight acres and built like a thirty thousand square
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: foot house and built like six other houses. There's like
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: five houses in the back for his kids with streets
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: named after his kids and his dead homies, two basketball
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: courts and everything else like that.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: And what Boosy's community.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: He built a whole town around him, and like, you know,
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: you know real estate. Obviously, when I buy a house,
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: and you bought a house, you probably think about the
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: resell value. You think I might not live here forever,
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: So make sure I get the right area and I
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: could resell it at some later point if I choose
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: to go somewhere else or if I need the money.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Boosey was just all in. No One's gonna buy Boosy's
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: estate because it's so specific to what he did. I've
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: never seen anyone just go all in in their own
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: dreams and for their own family. It. I love it.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: I absolutely love it. And it's just like and he
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: even said, like, yo, I got out of prison. He
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: had lost his house while he was in prison because
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: he had a mortgage. He lost everything, lost his house,
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: lost his cars, and he said, okay, when I get out,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: he just bought the land. And he was like, yo,
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: I just built it week by week, twenty thousand here,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: thirty thousand here. You know, the main house took a
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: while to build. Then he built this, and he built that,
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: and every time he would get show money or whatever else,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: you just put a little something extra on it. Because
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: they were like crews working on the house when I
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: was over there, and it's just he's like, yo, if
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: I could do it, anyone could do it. And like
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: you look at the comments, like yo, I'm so inspired,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: like so many people are like, I'm gonna do it.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: That's that.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: That was actually before you're telling me this, that was
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: a dream of mine that I had. Uh, I can
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: never do it, But I always thought it'll be dope
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: if you can buy your own acres like this and
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: your family lives in your own town. I mean you can,
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: but it's expensive in New.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Jersey, New York. Yeah, you got to go down but.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: New York Jersey.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: But then also you don't know if your kids want
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: to live there, but I just do. I thought it
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: would be dope where you have your own community where
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: you know, he could put a gate on it and
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: that gate enters into Boosie's house, his daughter's house, his
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: son's house, his you know, sister in law's houses, but
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: where you have your own things. So it's like you
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: have your own community, your own basketball court, your own water,
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: so you don't have to supply, you don't have to
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: depend on anybody. And I just thought that was dope.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: I always thought that was amazing. Even if I could
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: buy every house on my block, where you know, I
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: could go next door to my kid's house, go next
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: door to my daughter, say, I just thought that would
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: be next across the street to mama house. Like, I
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: just thought that would be dope. So I commend Boosy
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: for doing that.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Hey, people talk about multigenerational wealth, but they don't usually
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: it's just a catchphrase. Like you're actually seeing him create
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: multi generational wealth. This huge property that's gonna be part
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: of Boosey's family and he has like I think nine
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: kids or something like that. It's like, yo, Like he
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: has a big family and he has a place for
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: that family to live, and it's amazing. So we're gonna
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: do a lot more house features, you know, a lot
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: more house features just just to inspire people. Really, I
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: love it.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: Well, we appreciate you for joining us. Blad TV, check
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: you out, follow you and all that good stuff.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: What interview should we be checking out right now?
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: I got a Leader Cohen interview that's about to drop o. Yep, yep,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: that's gonna be a big one. In the interview, actually
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: I asked him, I said, you're the most powerful person
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: in music. He was like, no, no, definitely not. I'm like, well,
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: the global head of YouTube music. YouTube is the biggest
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: music platform on earth, so by default, does that make
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: you the most powerful person in music. He's like, no, no,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: absolutely not, absolutely not. But yeah, that's a very dope
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: interview that's coming out out this new phase. All Love
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: Love interview that's out. I mean, just a bunch of
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: stuff in the works, a bunch of stuff in the works,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: but the leter Cone one is sort of a special
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: one that I've been holding on too for a little while.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: Okay, Dja Blad TV, it's the breakfast Club.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: Wake that answer up in the morning.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: Breakfast Club