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BeBe Winans On His Father’s Words at 16, Marriage Lessons, Faith & Healing, Discipline, Health at 62 · Love You Moore with Willie Moore Jr.

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  [SPEAKER_05]: Next on the Love You Worship.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: When I was twenty-two and I got married twenty-two.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: When I looked back I knew I was in love.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: but I was too young to understand what love was.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And what it was going to cost me, right?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But I'm doing the right thing, as you just said, because I was in love.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And it still is the only person I have a phone in love with.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We were married for sixteen almost seventeen years.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And when I decided,
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  [SPEAKER_01]: This is not going to continue.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Hey family, William O'June, you're here and welcome to another amazing love you more show.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Let me tell you something.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I am so excited about today's guest, but before we get to that, I wanna give you the opportunity right now to stop just spine on loving yourself more and actually do it and how do you do that?
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Now, if you know to the show, the love you more show is for people who have been through hurts, habits, breakups and how they overcame those different things in their lives.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: So many times, people don't see the room for improvement.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I know it's the biggest room.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And so this show is designed for people just like you who know exactly what's going on in your life and you know the things can get just a little bit better.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: You feel that you're shining on?
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I know you do.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Today I get the opportunity to hang out with a gentleman that I've been so blessed to call for him.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: When I tell you, he is probably one of the most hilarious men on and off the court, right?
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Because he is authentically who he is.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Now, many of you all know him for a lot of awards that he's wore.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: A lot of you actually probably know him, especially my ladies out there because whenever I put him on the internet, you call him Zaddy with a Z.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't call them there.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I actually just call him B.B.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: One.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And he's here today.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: What's going on, B.B.?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I was supposed to respond to that.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Let me just say this though, as I look over your head.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was willing more.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But it's love you more.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm on a love boat.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: It's, it's a boat of sorts.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I would say that it is a boat of sorts.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: But really it's just designed when I went through the wars.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And I was going through all that stuff.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I realized, why do you mean it?
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I have to love me because if the approval of people is going to make me be who I am, then I about to sink on this low boat because they weren't really really happy with my own decision.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And I'm like, how do I allow myself to move how guys call them eat a move?
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  [SPEAKER_04]: predicated on how people feel about me.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And so I said listen, why don't I talk to people who have been through similar situations and or different things so I can learn.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: So this has been healing for me.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And I'm beyond with you.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't plan to be healed by you.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Not even a little bit on this interview because you don't know how to be the man of God that I know that you are happy called to be a baby.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: You just ran at you were eight miles a day.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: He's in Texas.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Just kidding.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I've already learned my eight miles.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I seen that little.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I see that little workout that you were doing.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: So here's the thing, I've never went out there waiting, don't.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I told you, I'm good with it.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Wait, never going out there waiting.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Why didn't Miles and how long has it been since you started doing this?
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Am I wrong?
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Probably nine years of running like that, but I started off at thirty three.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I was getting out of the shower.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Me and CC were in Los Angeles.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We were doing the relationship album.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I was thirty three years old.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I was getting out the shower and this big mirror was in front of me and I said, who are these people getting out the shower?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: This was came out of my mouth.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I look like five people.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And so I got dressed and went downstairs as where it was near Jim.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Let me see if we're going to be there for about a month.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I found the gym, signed up, and I haven't stopped since.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: at thirty three years of thirty three years.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So you were saying, oh, you're going to get fat again.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, I got a plane.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, I got a plan.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: So is that kind of your goal?
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  [SPEAKER_04]: You see this older guy, you like, I will never be him ever, ever.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, you know, I, you know, I have great friends.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I have over the years I've had some wonderful relationships.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And so Luther van Joss was a great, great, great friend.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And when I started this journey of losing weight, I was talking with him, I was saying, look, I don't understand.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: How you can lose weight and gain it all back.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I said, I guarantee you, I get it off.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Where didn't come it back?
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, big looter was a little better than little looter.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Like big looter Kuro was good.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: but little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little to little little to little little to little little to little little to little little to little little to little little to little little to little little to little little to little little to little little to little little to little little to little
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  [SPEAKER_01]: their tour he was going to do and he said baby I'm looking at all this material because you know he was he was the one that got the dresses for the background and his feet and everything oh yeah he was all in defaction so he said I'm looking at all this material for the tour and I said he said but you know it's it's just my suit it was so much with
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You got to do some about it and keep it off.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So I kept it off with people would say, oh, you're going to gain it back because you travel.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so much.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And you know, you may give into what people say because some of it may be true.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I was traveling a lot at the same time.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Something whispered to me and said, there's a banana in every state you go to.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: There is a banana ministry.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Even in the gas station.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: They start putting them bananas in the gas station.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And every city, so I didn't have to give in to what people said.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we'll be honest with you, man, to see the journey.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I know I joke with you a lot, and I know I'm always like teasing like, oh, he's on my own number five.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I just want to say this on the apologetically, man, you look amazing.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: It is always an amazing time when I get a, like, I always leave with something that's going to make me better.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And sometimes you gotta become the product that you plan to tell people like, you know, man, God's going to do it.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Then you see somebody, you be like,
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,
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  [SPEAKER_01]: sixty-two sixty-two and feel good yeah how do you what what age do you feel like how do you feel you know it's it's as you grow older and you've experienced this a little bit yeah but when you hit a certain age you start thinking oh how did that happen yeah so I sit here saying how did sixty-two happen I know what happened God gave me another day and bless with another day but at the same time I feel
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  [SPEAKER_01]: like that guy that graduated in a nineteen eighty.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So I still feel like that baby.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Matter of fact that was Benjamin because then the binomial as a baby weren't school and I was going on that.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So I still feel that way.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I just think differently.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Got it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Not so much on what I feel is what I view.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And so my viewpoint
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's amazing.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, shout out to everybody who's watching right now.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: You kind of feeling you're shining like sixty-two.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Yep, sixty-two.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Which means you too can get the BB wine and work out plan.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: We're starting to work on it now.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: We'll be be listening.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: We like to have icebreakers and because you are a musician, we use music.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And in this particular scenario, because it's a love you more serious as well, I'm just kind of leaving a funeral and then my uncle, Uncle G, he picks me up.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And I realized that this was a moment that I was going to get my turning point that I would never go and look back from this moment on.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Focus your attention to the screen of your mind.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: See a lot of people don't understand again, right?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And it's no stability in this dollar You live in off-road, it's a dream, you ever say If people are buying your news, if you don't eat, that's all It don't get half ways, I'm telling you, I'm gonna tell you not to read I'm gonna tell you not to read I'm gonna tell you not to read I'm gonna tell you not to read
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  [SPEAKER_02]: My problem is that times I wanna break down No one loves us, me It's time I'm going up and going back down If you will need to do what I need Take him around the book called She's time to get in order Do what we gotta do in the feed I saw us and know us You already got survival Then you got your world You just told me to claim it And I saw that girl living in my city street Nobody
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  [SPEAKER_04]: The name of the song is turning point.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: So make sure that you check it out wherever you strain music.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Name of the song is turning point.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, baby.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: So this name of the song be a turning point.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I use this going to just bring that on me.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Come on man.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I had to hit you with the song when you go to London.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I think you decided me.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: So really, this is my audition.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That was, that was fantastic.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But come on, you got to warn me on that.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You just do that on me.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That was great.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: When did you do that?
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  [SPEAKER_04]: So we started this series last year.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And so I got a bunch of active friends.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And then I'm probably going to shoot season two in Nashville.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I run with you and make it real funny.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: But just really telling my story through music and comedy and fun.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And man, just finding a new way to put out music.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no doubt.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh man.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That's I mean, that is the bravery and the blessing that music gives.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Being a writer.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I've been able to write my story, you know, of ups and downs and my songs, the blueprint of my life.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So that's part of your life.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Three point is a part of your life, which goes from
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  [SPEAKER_01]: your heart to someone else's heart.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, you can tell when something is written and you listen to something, at least I can and I can say, oh, that's, that's an experience.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's powerful.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: That was great.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Man, I appreciate this.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: So it cannot open up for BBB.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't want to be there.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Mine is experienced because you hate the word tour.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm just like, everybody know this.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm allergic.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: If you say tour, I mess around and say that I want to say like second interview I'll ever be with BBB mining.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: He said, no, no, no, I'm allergic to that.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And I'm like this young radio guy.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I messed up now.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: He's like, no, I'm allergic to that.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And you don't know he's playing it like this face never changed.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: He's like,
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I like that.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't mess up now.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: But when I think about all the turning points that you had, and just a discipline you have at sixty two, I'll begin to think about pop-windings.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: The barber, the person who really spoke to your heart at one time, because you were a little different.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Talk to me a little bit about your relationship with your father and how that really made you be the unfiltered version that we get a chance to see today.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I was the seventh child.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So six older brothers.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And baby boy.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I watched my father's relationship with all my older brothers.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, so at sixteen my father would tap you and say, oh, where you going?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Seventeen is coming up.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I've done my part.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You're getting out of here.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You're going somewhere.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You're going somewhere.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And so my father was an only child.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And so I saw how he was every man.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He was a father.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He was a husband.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He was a son.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: A son that his father denied was he is.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, wow.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So my father had a not a great relationship with his father.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But had an incredible relationship with his father.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: His grandfather.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: His grandfather.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So understand my last name was Glenn from me on up.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Our last name was Glenn because my father took on his mother's name.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So until nineteen sixty four my father, um, who loved his father, his grandfather, uh, which is I W. wine and asked him to change his name.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: because he wanted his name to remain in the earth after he left.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And so my father marched us up to the courthouse and changed our names from Glenn to Wynes.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So how were you on this app?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I was too.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So the only of the first Wynes that was born with C.C.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: as a Wynes.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And so, but my father was his own man.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So that
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I fell in love with.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And one of the things he said to me that would always stay with me was he taught us to know who we were before we left the house.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So when the world tells you who you are, you won't believe him because you already know.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: So what's he, what's he affirmation guy was he, or was he, you just catch it as he's going.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You just can't catch it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Because he was too busy to do too much.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Because he was working.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He was driving the car.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He was doing the bobby.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He was playing.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He was working at four.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He was doing all those things to take care of us.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So you knew the love was there.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: My mom was an unbelievable supporter as well.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But when it was moments, my father was cutting my hair.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I was sixteen.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I was waiting on things.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I was fifteen.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Waiting on things to happen in the music world.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: In my right before, he cut my hair.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He twisted the chair around and he said, you got everything in you that you need.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Stop waiting on someone else and turn my chair back around.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That's when it changed for me.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I knew who I was.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Sixteen.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Sixteen.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Different from my brothers.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I knew I was a songwriter.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Got it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Now, CC used to laugh at all our songs because I used to make her sing them.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, anybody don't sing this?
• 15:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know about it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you're going to sing it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And so it was, I fell in love with myself.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: more love you more podcast after this.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So honestly, I think my next marriage is to the lamb.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: To the what?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: To the lamb.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: When Jesus comes back.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: But I'm a man in the man God needs that.
• 16:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh man, that needs that.
• 16:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: All of us have needs.
• 16:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 16:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: But if you feel your time with other things, you leave behind some of those needs.
• 16:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you realize some of those needs are really just wants.
• 16:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh man, I won't stand out.
• 16:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
• 16:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh man, guys, I won't do that.
• 16:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: He got the hell.
• 16:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: They turned it to me.
• 16:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's coming.
• 16:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: Love you more.
• 16:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was the I fell in love with myself.
• 16:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: Jason, it's sixteen.
• 16:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
• 16:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: So you go on, I know you go with the PTO singers.
• 16:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: You move to Charlotte, North Carolina, kind of know the whole story.
• 16:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: Your name is Benjamin at this time.
• 17:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: And then one of the owners, I guess, he comes in and he's hearing some sound.
• 17:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: What's the sound he's hearing?
• 17:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: We belong.
• 17:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: From the officer in the gentleman, the movie officer in the gentleman.
• 17:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: And he came into our rehearsal.
• 17:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: And said, I heard you song with a radio, and I wanted to change a couple of words.
• 17:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: And he looked at C.C.
• 17:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: looked at me and said, you and C.C.
• 17:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: going to do this together as a doer.
• 17:29
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
• 17:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that's how we became a doer.
• 17:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: And your name wouldn't be B.B.
• 17:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: and C.C.
• 17:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: see name?
• 17:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Our nickname was B.B.
• 17:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: and C.C.
• 17:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: but no one knew it until we sang that song.
• 17:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: And Jim's introduced us as B.B.
• 17:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: and C.C.
• 17:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
• 17:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: So here go the thing.
• 17:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think I ever told you that, but I thought when I was about, I think I about seven years old, because we just play y'all song at the house party for giving.
• 17:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: This won't tell you that.
• 17:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: Can we play that at the hospital?
• 17:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: We thought that was the eye.
• 17:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
• 18:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm from San Jose.
• 18:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: I was like, baby and C C, they go hand in good.
• 18:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I'm saying?
• 18:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: They go together and I found that later in life.
• 18:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's your sister.
• 18:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: And the song was about God.
• 18:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: Uh huh.
• 18:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: How much slack did you all get for being so mainstream with the music that you created?
• 18:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: To total.
• 18:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: not devastating because I knew who I was.
• 18:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: But we were destroyed, which could have been confusing, because you pick up a mainstream magazine that says these are such incredible, godly gospel artists being in season.
• 18:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: You pick up a Christian magazine that said the devil is with these two people.
• 18:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was amazing!
• 18:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Passes was preaching against us and it was laughable because I knew who I was and me and Sissy knew who we were.
• 18:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it didn't sting the way it would have if we didn't know who we were.
• 19:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: So you have this massive success on all sides, not just African American people, white people all across the globe, BB is beginning to be a name, and CC is becoming a name.
• 19:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: and then you start to get into relationship.
• 19:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: And then you pick someone to be your wife.
• 19:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: What did you see at that particular time for a wife?
• 19:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: Was it something that you were looking for?
• 19:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: Case and point.
• 19:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: Here's the thing.
• 19:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: When I look back going through therapy, I realized that because I was adopted, I just wanted a family.
• 19:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: And the truth is, beautiful woman, great thing.
• 19:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: But anybody could have feel that, because that was just something that I wanted as a man.
• 19:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, I'm starting my family.
• 19:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's what I'm looking at the numbers.
• 19:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: Everybody who's successful, they're going to have a family.
• 19:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: And this shows that I'm responsible, you know what I mean?
• 19:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: And so, you know, I'm twenty five years old.
• 20:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I do, you know, I'm like, hey, I just want to get married.
• 20:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: I remember my daddy telling me, my dad, you know, he, he old school, you know, he said, man, look at your man.
• 20:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: Hell, I don't think you know what the hell you do.
• 20:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: Not that you're picking the wrong woman.
• 20:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: I just thank you picking the wrong.
• 20:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: You're thinking that the wrong time.
• 20:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: You don't even know who you are yet.
• 20:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: You're still in transition trying to figure things out.
• 20:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: You won't Jesus and you won't want to be.
• 20:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: You trying to figure things out, man.
• 20:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm a figure out before I say I do, but look here, man.
• 20:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: Marriage ain't like Jim.
• 20:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: If you were the world, but the world tells you, especially when I was coming up that you had to do this at this time, at this moment.
• 20:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: And they have kids at this moment, so you'll be still young enough to care for them and have a great time with them.
• 20:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: How old were you when I was twenty-two when I got married?
• 20:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Twenty-two.
• 20:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: When I look back, I knew I was in love.
• 20:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I was too young to understand what love was.
• 21:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: And what it was going to cost me, right?
• 21:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I'm doing the right thing, as you just said, because I was in love.
• 21:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it still is the only person I have a phone in love with.
• 21:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: We were married for sixteen almost seventeen years.
• 21:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: And when I decided,
• 21:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is not going to continue.
• 21:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: I had a great, a great, he's still a great friend of mine.
• 21:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Country.
• 21:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Country, Chuck.
• 21:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: He used to call him.
• 21:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's a writer.
• 21:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: I called him Chuck a book.
• 21:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Chuck a book.
• 21:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was a country and was at his studio and he said, baby, baby.
• 21:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now I know, you know, you're getting divorced.
• 21:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: So look, baby, this is what you do.
• 21:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's just a chapter in your journey in your book.
• 21:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now it's just you need to turn the page.
• 22:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: and another chapter begins.
• 22:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: So he taught me in that moment that it's not the end of my life.
• 22:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's just the end of this chapter in my life.
• 22:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: And there were so many chapters that were coming after that.
• 22:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: But in the midst of the, you know, you know, when you read the book, you know, it's like, oh my god, he's going to fall off the cliff.
• 22:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's gone.
• 22:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's gone.
• 22:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then you don't want to turn the page because you know, in reading what's given it.
• 22:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: It happened.
• 22:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's falling off the cliff.
• 22:38
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
• 22:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: But sometimes you may put the book, put the book down, pick back up and you realize he fell into a swimming pool.
• 22:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: Ladies, I just want to tell you that was not in reference to you, but every time he says anything about water or cold, there's my Instagram accent for his number.
• 23:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: I love you.
• 23:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe I got to ask you this, though, like, you're this gospel Christian mega star.
• 23:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, it is not social media.
• 23:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: I want to kind of get prefaced today.
• 23:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: And it's not like social media where everybody sees the inside of your life.
• 23:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's it's Michael Jackson.
• 23:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's with the Houston.
• 23:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's Luther Vandrov.
• 23:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's BBSCC one.
• 23:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: These are the people that we see in these books.
• 23:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: You make this strong decision.
• 23:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like what is what is mine in pop wine and then say when you have to make a decision for yourself after sixteen years of marriage?
• 23:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, it was interesting.
• 23:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: I flew home.
• 23:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Again, the answer is easy, but I flew home after I made a decision, and I set with my mom and dad.
• 23:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was funny.
• 23:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: I tell you that because I know what happened, we're saying that it's stable, and I tell
• 23:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, my mom and dad, that I've made them online, I'm going to get the divorce, and my father right away.
• 23:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: You can't do that.
• 24:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, you just got to stay, son, to do that and I was to that.
• 24:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because they didn't know what I endured.
• 24:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
• 24:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, sometimes people think, you know, they know everything, but they didn't know everything.
• 24:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: And when I started sharing some of the things I endured,
• 24:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: We'd say that because my father, we would say my father's mind changed like the weather.
• 24:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so after I told him it's up a thing, he said, what?
• 24:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: You should have left him on time.
• 24:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know my, no, I tell you.
• 24:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then he looked at my mom and he said, y'all think she an angel.
• 24:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: I she you know she don't do everything right you know, but but they were they were very supportive yeah
• 24:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I appreciate, you know, I really do appreciate my parents.
• 24:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: They were incredible parents and still is my mom who turns eighty-eight on the twenty-second of September.
• 25:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Certain people walk with you.
• 25:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: And when I say certain people, I just don't mean family.
• 25:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean friends as well.
• 25:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: That will walk through with you through those storms.
• 25:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: And God will show you who they are because you can't tell.
• 25:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: You can't tell everybody everything.
• 25:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I had people who walked with me and one of the things that I know it was God that spoke to my heart.
• 25:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: He told me to stay silent.
• 25:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a day silent.
• 25:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: We used to sing a song in church all the time.
• 25:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Victory victory shall be mine.
• 25:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Victory victory shall be mine.
• 25:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: But this is the part that was hard.
• 25:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: If I hold my piece and let the Lord fight my battles.
• 25:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Victory shall be mine.
• 26:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, there's a moment that you don't want to own your piece.
• 26:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: You want to say, oh, let me tell you something.
• 26:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I learned so much about me through those tests and trials.
• 26:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: I remember calling you and I was in a very tough spot.
• 26:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: And you called me back.
• 26:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: And it was just like a lot of stuff on social media.
• 26:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: And BB's energy never changes as always.
• 26:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, he's, he's that everything's going to be okay.
• 26:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: And he told me not to fight, don't fight out loud, but
• 26:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: Make sure that you take care of those children and give them a perspective of what's going on.
• 26:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: That is the only time you speak.
• 26:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: Do it in love.
• 26:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: Do it in honor.
• 26:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: But don't just let them think one thing, like going there and doing what you're supposed to do.
• 26:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: And then the one thing that I say about your leadership and just, you know, brotherhood is that you don't leave people where they are, you always say what it can be.
• 26:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: And then he said, I mean, look at me.
• 27:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm doing good, you know.
• 27:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: My mom's in this standard.
• 27:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, what am I lonely with my children?
• 27:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: You'll be fine.
• 27:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: But I tell you that helped me so much because the Lord also told me to just be silent.
• 27:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: Just be silent.
• 27:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: This is a battle that he would fight and it wouldn't be anything that I could actually do because if I'd given to it, it was only going to get bigger.
• 27:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: But when it came to my children, I began to refine the narrative by simply sharing, hey, this is my truth.
• 27:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: Nothing has to do with mom and nothing like that.
• 27:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: But I did it in a way that was digestible for them to understand that daddy is just not this bad guy.
• 27:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: Daddy is a guy who has went
• 27:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if those seeds, I don't know if I would have planted those seeds five years ago, four years ago.
• 27:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, one of the things that I learned and still learning.
• 27:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: You're still growing, you're still going to learn, but that the definition, I traded out the definition of test and tribulation for God's definition of it.
• 28:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: So when everything and anything is happening in my life that seems to be going wrong, it's not to destroy me.
• 28:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's to make me strong.
• 28:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: He allows things to come in our lives to make us strong.
• 28:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm stronger because of everything that I endure.
• 28:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm stronger because I kept silent.
• 28:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is why, you know, we read vengeance is mine, said the Lord.
• 28:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know why that is?
• 28:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: It hit me about a month ago.
• 28:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm reading and I realize, oh, we can't handle vengeance.
• 28:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because my vengeance
• 28:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: You wouldn't exist.
• 28:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: You would be gone and all your lineage would be gone.
• 28:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: But God can handle vengeance because He's gone.
• 28:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't have to pay you back.
• 29:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't have to tell you all.
• 29:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't have to correct you.
• 29:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't have to do any of that because it's in God's hand.
• 29:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: So therefore I can have peace in the middle of the store.
• 29:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Man, that's not my MPs.
• 29:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Peace looks good.
• 29:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Peace looks good.
• 29:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: If he feels even better.
• 29:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 29:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: Now y'all have the hills back there, direct messages and all that, so they really couldn't touch you.
• 29:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: No, I just pray for my deans, Lord God.
• 29:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: I try to get some kind of amount to hire you for them.
• 29:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, my deans.
• 29:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, but now you're this guy who's down BB one and it's thirty three.
• 29:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: He changes his entire body that happens when people, you don't go through some type of stuff or whatever.
• 29:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: And so how does BB
• 29:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: not get caught up with because there's the proposition for you every single day from someone like how do you set your boundaries and borders knowing that you're free man with everything that you can actually it's it's it's funny how there is so much more to get involved in
• 30:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: that leaves those other things behind.
• 30:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: If you understand what I'm saying, you know, exercising is wonderful.
• 30:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: It takes up time.
• 30:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Reading is wonderful.
• 30:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: It takes up time.
• 30:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: So if you feel your time with every other thing that is good for you, you don't have time for food.
• 30:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is like my father's.
• 30:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: I got time for food.
• 30:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he didn't have that.
• 30:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: So a lot of things that people say is just foolishness to me.
• 30:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't have time for it, but if you just don't have nothing in your life and you just have idle time, you can get caught up in foolishness.
• 30:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so my life is so full, I don't have time to be lonely.
• 30:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: Do you have a desire for companionship with this ASCII?
• 30:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: No.
• 30:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: What is that?
• 30:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: No.
• 31:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: I went to the movies the other day.
• 31:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I have the most wonderful time at the movies because it's just me.
• 31:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: I got a word about where I got to sit.
• 31:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: But what time we got to leave out?
• 31:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's, I'm enjoying.
• 31:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: So honestly, I think my next marriage is to the lamb.
• 31:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: To the lamb when Jesus comes back.
• 31:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: But I'm a man and a man got knees down.
• 31:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: The man got knees down.
• 31:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: All of us have knees.
• 31:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 31:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: But if you feel your time with other things, you leave behind some of those knees.
• 31:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you realize some of those needs are really just wants.
• 31:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well man, I won't stand that.
• 31:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
• 31:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I got the world today, he got the hell.
• 31:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: They're turning me.
• 31:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: Come on.
• 31:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right, so this, this is just real.
• 31:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 31:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
• 31:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: So one day the Lord told me, give me your sex life.
• 32:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, we say that the Lord said, give me your cares.
• 32:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Give me your concerns.
• 32:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Give me, tell me, give you my sex life.
• 32:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I gave it.
• 32:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you know what?
• 32:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: He can handle that.
• 32:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: more, you can handle it.
• 32:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: So any and everything that we go through, any and everything that we need, we can turn it over.
• 32:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: He says, given, and what he gives in return, it is peace beyond your imagination.
• 32:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Jesus.
• 32:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: I remember my mom with my father passed.
• 32:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's so I was sitting with my mom and we were talking about the funeral arrangements and I looked at her and I said, Mom, now look, I'm gonna give you two years to mourn, to mourn and then I'm gonna find a rich Christian man.
• 32:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: She said, oh boy, please.
• 33:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to see another man in my life.
• 33:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: Your father would do it.
• 33:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, it's what you allow God to be in your life.
• 33:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now, if you limit him, then you're going to have to hit that bell a couple of times.
• 33:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: But if you don't limit him, man.
• 33:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: So like, all right, God, I got to give you my give you give it to him.
• 33:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'll give you this part of my life too.
• 33:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: You can handle that.
• 33:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's good.
• 33:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: God can handle that.
• 33:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: Do me a favor if you watch and subscribe to this channel real quick and share this with many people.
• 33:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's possible.
• 33:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: Baby, I do have to ask you this because now you are, you know, really, really kind of hopping back in the studio.
• 33:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: We've been hearing about out for the last three years.
• 33:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, they say you tore in the round.
• 33:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: You sold out some stadiums in Africa.
• 33:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: I seen the pictures.
• 33:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: I said, I ain't going to never get a chance to talk to him again.
• 34:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I was screaming to look too loud for that.
• 34:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: So, so musically now is writing still cathartic for you to go out there and do what you're doing in the studio.
• 34:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: It is, it is.
• 34:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: But again, I'm on my own time.
• 34:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that's one of the things I enjoy.
• 34:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: I am still excited to share everything that God has brought me through through song.
• 34:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I'm still writing those songs.
• 34:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: So at this point, I may have recorded probably twenty songs.
• 34:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: And every time I go in with my, my, my co-producer in engineering, I said, this is the last song.
• 34:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: We rapping this up.
• 34:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: And he said, you know, you said that around ten songs ago.
• 34:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 34:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I'm, I'm at that point where I believe everything that I should have.
• 34:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: written about and placed, I'm ready to release that.
• 34:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because it's songs of ups and downs, it's songs of fears, it's songs of regrets.
• 35:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: And as all those things that humans go through, I mean, we give things to God, this is the funny part, and then we take it back from them.
• 35:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: We don't give myself away.
• 35:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Wait a minute, I'll take my phone.
• 35:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm telling you.
• 35:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm telling you.
• 35:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, but as human beings, we are so fast to take back what we gave God.
• 35:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so I've written about that.
• 35:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I've written about there's a song that I wrote in nineteen ninety four.
• 35:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: I went to a movie and it was called The Paper.
• 35:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: And in this movie, there was a scene that Michael Keaton and Meryl Street was near the end of the movie.
• 35:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: She wanted to run a story about something that they really didn't have the facts on.
• 36:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: So Michael was reluctant.
• 36:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: He looked at her and he said, you know, but I just don't
• 36:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: We just don't have the facts.
• 36:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: You said, run it today.
• 36:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: And if we're wrong, we'll correct it tomorrow.
• 36:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: And he looked at her and said, but I don't want to be wrong today.
• 36:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: I want to be wrong today.
• 36:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: I want to be wrong today.
• 36:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: I want to be wrong today.
• 36:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's real.
• 36:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I said, that's a song.
• 36:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: That is a song.
• 36:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I went home.
• 36:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: I started writing this song.
• 36:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I just finished it.
• 36:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Did you record it?
• 36:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just recorded it.
• 36:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: He did a little bit of it.
• 36:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: We all are humans.
• 36:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: And here's what that means.
• 36:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: We all have our ups and downs.
• 36:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: For the life we're living, there's a prize we've deemed based on what we do here and now.
• 36:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: And what I'm saying, there's a right and wrong and always a choice at hand.
• 36:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Instructions given for us to take along in a simple course as I've been wrong in so many ways, but
• 37:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to be wrong today.
• 37:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Come on, baby.
• 37:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Come on, baby.
• 37:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: No more.
• 37:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't be wrong.
• 37:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's so many ways.
• 37:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's so many ways.
• 37:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: The truth comes down.
• 37:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Somebody pays, but I don't want to be wrong, do we?
• 37:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't want to be wrong today.
• 37:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I found a solution that changed my ways now.
• 37:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't have to be wrong today.
• 37:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: He's turning, he's turning the baby off me.
• 37:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: He's bending before a little while.
• 37:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm turning the baby off me.
• 37:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, how many times you hear this now?
• 37:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: Because now you're trying to be funny now.
• 37:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: But I just feel like sometimes I so glad you got your life to Jesus in your name.
• 37:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: But I just feel like if you with it, I don't want to be wrong, baby.
• 37:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like if you want to hear the baby right there, why not like a little R&B?
• 37:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: Because you are the age, not where it's like, man, I don't really want men who know, like, I remember when people be like, I'm in the gospel music industry.
• 38:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: I can tell when they got to put their knuckles together.
• 38:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: They Jesus all the way, because they know this is the way the truth and the life and the way to my paycheck.
• 38:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's not your call.
• 38:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, have you ever do what they're there with Luther Van Dross and Whitney Houston and write anything besides gospel Christian.
• 38:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: I had desires for my music to be heard everywhere when I was young and I wanted that and people said the only way that could happen
• 38:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: to be on the R&B charts, be on pop charts, you had to sing those songs.
• 38:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Again, the Lord told me, give me your songs.
• 38:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: You knew my desires, but I gave it to him.
• 38:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: and he just outdid himself.
• 38:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: He did.
• 38:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Really did.
• 38:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so why would I look back now and say, I mean, change this formula?
• 39:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, so it is a wonderful thing when people come up to you and say, hey, you know, I heard your music when I was on the dance floor and the club and it touched me and it brought me to a place where, oh,
• 39:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's talking about, come on, come on, and my life was changed.
• 39:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Man, it says everything that I have endured
• 39:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's worth it.
• 39:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: Um, wait, just a minute.
• 39:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: More love you more show right after this.
• 39:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, I'm doing a live show.
• 39:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, going live in St.
• 39:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: Louis, Missouri.
• 39:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
• 39:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: This Friday, October the fourth at a very disclosed like location.
• 39:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: So I'm not gonna say it on here.
• 39:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: However, general admission is available right now.
• 39:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: So I want to encourage you to get your general admission tickets, still going to be beautiful with the tightness stuff.
• 40:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: You're going to be able to see everything.
• 40:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: But I'm sitting down with Murphy Lee from the sign loan attics.
• 40:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: Now Lee sign loan attics.
• 40:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: Murphy probably probably won my favorite loan attics to be quite honest.
• 40:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I'm getting an opportunity to sit down with him.
• 40:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not talking about a lot about this career although he did do a song with Diddy back in the day.
• 40:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: We do it for fun.
• 40:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: The mega, you know, that joint.
• 40:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: So we might talk a little bit about that, but what I'm more excited about is to talk to a rapper who has a wife, he just had a baby, and he just doing his thing, and so I'm just intrigued by a story.
• 40:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: He had some ups and downs, so I want to know what it is.
• 40:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: So I'm gonna get a chance to talk to him and you're gonna channel with witnesses live.
• 40:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: Murphy might not be rapping.
• 40:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, let's get this out the way.
• 40:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: Um, I'm singing a little bit.
• 40:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm a guy that's singing some of the classics and I got a new song called Clockwork that I want everybody here.
• 40:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: So I'm gonna sing a little bit.
• 40:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm gonna do a little story.
• 40:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's gonna be off to try and listen.
• 40:59
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• 41:06
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• 41:10
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• 41:12
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• 41:13
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• 41:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 41:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: was really worth it.
• 41:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so they'll have anything against wonderful music.
• 41:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: I have this song that
• 41:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: that I absolutely love to hear, that they're not gospel songs.
• 41:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, one of my favorite songs was, I was driving my mother's Nova.
• 41:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know nothing about Nova.
• 41:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: I knew about Nova.
• 41:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know about Nova.
• 41:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know about Nova.
• 41:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know about Nova.
• 41:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know about Nova.
• 41:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know about Nova.
• 41:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know about Nova.
• 41:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know about Nova.
• 41:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: I know about Nova.
• 41:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: I know about Nova.
• 41:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: I know about Nova.
• 41:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: I know about Nova.
• 41:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: I know about Nova.
• 41:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: I know about Nova.
• 41:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: I know about Nova.
• 41:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: I know about Nova.
• 41:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: I know about Nova.
• 41:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: I know about Nova.
• 41:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: I know about Nova.
• 41:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: I know about Nova.
• 41:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: I know about Nova.
• 41:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: I know about Nova.
• 41:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: I know about Nova.
• 41:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: I know about Nova.
• 41:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: I know about Nova.
• 41:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: I know about Nova.
• 41:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: I know about Nova.
• 41:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: But then flovers, almost falling out there, nervous.
• 41:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: See, we got a party at the time of the year.
• 41:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was driving my arms, okay, I was driving my mom's right in the sun, came in the radio.
• 42:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it said, when I wake up, he's morning trying to find myself.
• 42:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: And if I never the least unsure, I always remind myself, though you're someone in this world, that I always choose to love.
• 42:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: From now on, you're only someone that I used to love.
• 42:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
• 42:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: My God, thank you.
• 42:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Who wrote down good God from Zion?
• 42:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Who I used to love?
• 42:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: I need this song.
• 42:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: I need this song.
• 42:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Natalie Cole was saying that.
• 42:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: And in understanding the lyric,
• 42:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was a relationship that went a different way.
• 42:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: But she chose to still love herself and keep moving on.
• 43:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: And boy, did I play a part of my life?
• 43:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: Man, listen, you are the epitome of peace, bro.
• 43:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: I've never really met anybody.
• 43:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's all peaceful with itself.
• 43:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think you had something to recover to this day.
• 43:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: And then everybody was called, and he was like,
• 43:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: No, I think I just want to talk to my friend, Willie.
• 43:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: And that's the only outlet that I want to talk to you about.
• 43:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: I was like, man, I can't wait to not be wrong, man.
• 43:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: And just say what you want to say.
• 43:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: But now understand, at sixteen, like you were able to, it was, it was a seed that happened at sixteen in the city.
• 43:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: I know who I am.
• 43:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, sometimes you don't.
• 43:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes you don't know what people think of you.
• 43:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: or understand about you, right?
• 43:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so my mom, I laugh because this came from my brother Daniel, who's a year older than me.
• 43:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: We co-host a dinner, birthday dinner from my mother.
• 44:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so Daniel was saying, all right, this is the last thing I'm gonna say.
• 44:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: And he said to my family and all the friends that was there, he said, in case you're not, didn't know.
• 44:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: BB loves himself.
• 44:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: So no matter what y'all say, he doesn't care.
• 44:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: And he went on and went on.
• 44:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just went to laughing, but it was true about what he said about me.
• 44:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: So in order to do anything for God,
• 44:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: You have to know who you are because people are not going to like you people are not going to be in your corner people are waiting for you to fall people are waiting to destroy you, right?
• 44:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: So if you don't know who you are if you don't love you not understand loving you does not mean you're perfect loving yourself means you have to deal with the ups and the downs to good bad enough
• 45:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: is so important.
• 45:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's so important.
• 45:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it's success or without success.
• 45:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: I enjoy myself.
• 45:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: We definitely know that today true.
• 45:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: Come on somebody.
• 45:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe I got to ask you just one more question.
• 45:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: What's the complete necessity when you're in the studio right?
• 45:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like what's one thing?
• 45:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: What's one thing you have to have when you're in the studio?
• 45:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Just people around me who tell the truth.
• 45:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Got it.
• 45:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, for instance, there's an engineer that has been my engineer since BVNCC first started.
• 45:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: His name is Jeff.
• 45:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Jeff has been my engineer for forty years.
• 45:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the reason why he's still my engineer, because he'll say, Baby, that was a horrible take.
• 45:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I believe them.
• 45:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't question when people who I know love me, whether in the studio, whether working or around me, that's going to tell me the truth.
• 46:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I need truth around me, in my private life, in my public life, in any and everything that I do.
• 46:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: I want truth surrounding me.
• 46:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Listen.
• 46:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I just want to talk to you real quick, just as we put a ball this day.
• 46:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, we play a lot in Joker life, but what I heard today, and of course, I don't be before a while now, but I just never really understood that see, that changed everything.
• 46:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: And it was at sixteen years old when he realized that everything that he needed was on the inside of him.
• 46:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: And so maybe you didn't get the Australian privilege.
• 46:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like many people didn't have a father speaking to your life and give you the affirmation that it's okay to be you.
• 46:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: Listen, I'm not attempting to be anybody's father, but I do want to lead you to a father who made you fearfully and wonderfully made.
• 46:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I want you to know today that he says that it's okay to be you.
• 46:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: Baby, when he made you, he broke the mold.
• 46:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: Don't continue to live your life as a carbon copy of somebody else, be unapologetically yourself.
• 47:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know I'm going to keep you in one hundred with you.
• 47:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: I spent a lot of time in the identity crisis.
• 47:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I necessarily know who I was, what my board is, what my boundaries was, like I literally struggle and still struggle sometimes with that codependency thing, where you just want everybody to be happy.
• 47:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: But these last three years, four years have taught me that it's totally impossible to keep everybody happy.
• 47:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: and have peace with yourself.
• 47:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: And so I release you today to be free and Christ.
• 47:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: And what does that look like?
• 47:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: That means that listen, you don't always get it right, but you know what to run to.
• 47:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: That doesn't mean that you always say the right things, but baby guess what?
• 47:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know who to run to.
• 47:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: And so I'm challenging you right now to be unapologetically yourself.
• 47:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: Every single day I do my best to be so much of me that it repels everything that doesn't like me.
• 47:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't want any great areas either you like me or you don't pay.
• 47:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: because that's how much of me that I have to be.
• 47:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: And today, I pray that you're saying somebody who's living in life at sixty-two.
• 47:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't really like saying this, but the man looked good.
• 47:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: He looked better than he did when he was thirty-three.
• 48:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: But maybe at thirty-three he discovered that that was a version of yourself that he saw at sixty-two that he wanted to become at thirty-three.
• 48:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: Physically mentally and spiritually and every day brick by brick he continues to live that out.
• 48:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: consistency is the key.
• 48:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: You, too, can win with consistency.
• 48:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: Be yourself here.
• 48:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: I love you on the apologetically.
• 48:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: Make sure that you subscribe to this channel.
• 48:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: Share this with as many people as possible.
• 48:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: And we're coming to a city near you.
• 48:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: We're going live.
• 48:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think we're going to say lose depending on when you see this.
• 48:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: We're in Atlanta.
• 48:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: We're going to be in DC and so many other cities, typing live recordings.
• 48:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: And you never know who will come pop up on you.
• 48:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: Now if you will in my journey and I promise you this, I'm going to have my calf muscles out if it's over fifty degrees.
• 48:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: Hallelujah.
• 48:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: Love yourself more, flat out.
• 48:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, Lord.
• 48:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, I gotta keep your real with you.
• 48:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: But what I want you to do is I want to make sure that you share this, you comment, you click like, engage with us.
• 48:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: Listen, everybody wants to be celebrating.
• 48:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: Not just tolerated.
• 49:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm just tolerated.
• 49:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: Celebrate us.
• 49:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: I like you, Sherry, and comment it.
• 49:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: Can't do it without you.
• 49:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: So I gotta do it.
• 49:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's clicking.
• 49:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: Do that for me.
• 49:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: See you next week.
• 49:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.