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Forbidden Door 2025 · ABJ

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What's going on everybody? And welcome back to Tornado Tag
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Tonight we cover this week in wrestling news Forbidden door
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card and our free predict our own.
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We're not predict, but we create our own Forbidden door
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pay-per-view. ABJ and BP Burke on the call.
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Let's start the show. What's going on, bud?
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Oh, nothing. Just forbidden Doran.
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Forbidden Doran. So wait until you see what I
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have. I I went too far.
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I think I I like it. I I I have all the excesses of
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WWEA&AEWI have a two night show with seven or excuse me, yeah,
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17 matches. No New Japan, no TNA and and
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NXT. Oh, no, I have, I have some New
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Japan. I have.
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I don't think I have anybody from TNA.
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I have one. I have, I have one person from
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TNAI take that back and I have a few people from New Japan, maybe
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some people from AAA. It's it's going to be a fun one.
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All right, CMLL, even if it's if it's not Orange Cassidy versus
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Mr. Iguana, I don't want to hear it.
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Not joking. Hey, you might be on to
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something there you. Might be OK.
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You might be scratching the surface on something.
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I like it, I like it. You know how I like my comedy
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wrestling. The chat is open if you're here
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But well, let's get right into ABP.
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Well, First off, I love the new background.
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OK, Yeah, you're. Lit.
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You're lit up real nice. You look, you look glorious
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right now. And last time we did, I didn't
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put a lot of clips off from last episodes.
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I felt horrible. I couldn't.
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I didn't have the time to sit down and edit and do everything
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and AI, the devil AI is on our service that they it automated
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and makes clips for us. The problem?
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Is boils the oceans? Yes, and it boils the oceans.
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Unfortunately AI is not smart enough to realize that Uma
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Thurman is not on the podcast and a lot of clips would Uma.
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Thurman is not on the podcast yet.
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Could you imagine her getting wrestling talks with us?
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That'd be great. Is she a pro wrestling?
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Fan you think there's no chance? No chance.
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OK, but anyway, the the the the AI would just attach to her face
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and it would cut us out of every clip.
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So I like BP. You got to move the poster.
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I know it's a great poster, but it's killing the AI.
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It looks good to see, but this is my wrestling wall.
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The wrestling wall is behind me. I have an autographed Cactus
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Jack shirt that's being obscured by my microphone.
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Behind my giant head is an autographed picture of
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Demolition, an autographed poster of Ric Flair Invader from
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Super Brawl 4I remember. What I was with you when you
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bought that. I have another autograph for
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you, I just keep forgetting to give it to you.
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I have your headbangers autograph for years now.
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Also obscured by the microphone is here's a here's a quick plug
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is a an autographed poster from the first fighter tainment of
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Pilgru Brewing. They're gonna be doing another
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one next Friday, August 29th. Raise the money for Jeff
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Cannonball on a swipe with ALS. We will both be there.
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Yep. I'll be doing some ring
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announcing. I'm going to be doing something.
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I don't know what I'm doing yet. I think I'm doing music.
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OK, that works. If if we're not doing one of
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three things at wrestling shows on these ones, right?
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Yeah, but let's get into the show.
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Our first topic is going to be WWE is PLE changes, show changes
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and counter programming, programming with AW.
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Yeah, aggressively. They've been doing it anyway.
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It, it started all the way back when they moved NXT to USA
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Wednesdays to go head to head with Dynamite.
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And they, they, they got whooped and, and since then they have
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gotten hotter, AW has gotten colder.
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So counter programming is a little more effective.
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Usually now when NXT and AW go head to head, NXT wins.
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But they do load up the shows. And so, yeah, this is going to
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be a little bit more aggressive than that.
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It starts with Wrestle Palooza on the 20th of September which
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is gonna go head to head with All Out.
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And that'll be on ESP. That'll be the first time we're
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using the ESPN deal. Yeah, so.
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Yeah, the the mainstream PL. ES are leaving Peacock early.
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That ESPN service launched today.
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I'm not sure if I have it or not.
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Like I've read things to say, 'cause I have YouTube TV.
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YouTube TV says they don't, they're not part of it but
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they're hoping to for WrestleMania.
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Their ESP NS carriage deal with with YouTube TV ends in I
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believe December, so that might be part of the negotiation for a
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new one. But I tried the app and I was
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able to watch like first take and stuff on my phone so I I
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honestly don't know if I have it or not.
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Yeah, well, I I plan on doing the Hulu package again, so I'm
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gonna get Hulu Live TV and that'll come with Disney and
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ESPN. Right.
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If you have Hulu with live TV, this thing is part of it.
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There's certain cable companies and live TV providers that do
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have it and some that apparently don't.
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But YouTube TV is supposed to be more of the ones that don't.
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And I tried it and I I seem to have it.
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Yeah, I mean, if you don't, I will.
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Obviously there there's ways. Yeah, we'll figure it out.
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Huge thank you to Brandon. This is his second time doing
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this. He is a member himself and just
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gifted away another membership. Did it last live stream and this
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one. Appreciate you so much, Brandon,
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for for donating and help and paying the bills here at the
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podcast that that helps out more than you know.
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And the chat's been saying to BP.
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And also, we have it on our notes that Saturday night main
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event will be moving to Peacock because I guess Peacock feels a
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little left out. Yeah, I'm going to drop off for
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one second. Literally 1.
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Yeah, you're good. Yeah.
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So they'll be moving to Peacock. I don't really know the card or
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the plans for future shows when it comes to Wrestle Palooza or
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Saturday night main event. I I did skip raw this week only
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because like, I just I was going how luck on artwork and I just
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decided to pass on raw this week.
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Plus I'm just really sick of these DQ finishes.
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I just yeah, the the WE product. I, I, I, I'm going to watch it
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for the sake of the content, but it is not for me.
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Well, the big announcement they did make was that that Saturday
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night's main event is going to be John Cena's last match.
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OK, yes, I believe December 13th and it's the same day as World's
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End and it's going to be, yeah, John Cena's last match is the
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big the big thing there. For me personally, and I'm not
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saying this for every wrestling fan, and maybe you can answer
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your side of it as well, but I if they're if they're counter
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programming, I'm not watching. I'm sticking with a EWI rather
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watch that programming. That's just me personally.
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Well, I'm pretty sure if I don't have the date wrong, December
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13th, I'm going to be at PPW. Yeah, if I'm not watching.
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Either if I'm not making wrestling content, if I'm not at
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a show helping make wrestling content, I'm choosing to watch
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AEW over any other. I, I haven't been happy with WWE
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lately either, but I have watched very little AW over the
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last five or six months. It just it's, it's not hitting
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for me right now. Yeah, I, I, I can definitely
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feel that. Thank you again, Brenda, for the
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$2.00 super chat. Appreciate you.
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I'm done with the, the the writing at WE for a while.
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Not hating. Yeah, I mean.
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Watching. Watching, I don't, I don't
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think, I think there is some decent storylines and stuff
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going there. It's just a presentation and and
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AE W has done some stuff. We'll kind of cover it in the
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next couple segments on their recently televised stuff that
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I'm just been not a fan of what storyline is as well.
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But I, I just, I feel like when I watch a match, I'm getting a
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conclusion and at least that that's enough for me right now.
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And I think the pay per views, AWP per views are a little more
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entertaining for me. Yeah, the last AWP per view I
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watched was the one I was at, so it's a little tricky for me.
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I was. What was that dynasty that was
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in Philly? Yeah.
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Yeah, so I mean that that was a fun show, but it was also very
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long. Yeah.
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And, and that tends to be my, my gripe with AW is we can't have a
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happy medium like WWE shows are like 3 hours long and only have
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five matches. And you're paying, you're paying
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$400 to sit crazy far away to watch four matches for $400.00,
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where AW is like, hey, it's it's 100 bucks and we're going to
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give you 438 matches. I, I, I believe all in Texas is
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still going on. Yeah, it's, but I don't mind.
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I mean, bang for your buck. I don't hate it.
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Like if I'm, if I'm in attendance or I'm paying for the
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pay-per-view, I don't. I don't mind the longer shows as
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long as they're on like Sundays are rough.
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Like, oh, you want me to watch all day Sunday?
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That's that's tough. But another big thing on the
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commentary side of things. Pat McAfee returns to wrestle
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Palooza on commentary on the new ESPN deal.
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Who'd a thunk? Yeah, how about that?
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How about that? Well, it's also I, I know part
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of it was him wanting to be paid compensated fairly for his, his
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time and a Pat McAfee makes a lot of money.
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He's he's, he's got a really sweet deal with ESPN.
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And so like with everything being simpatico there, I, I
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wonder if he's just going to be, maybe he's going to be a
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complicator for pay per views, or maybe he's back on RAW, who
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knows? Yeah, I, I think Pat should just
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be maybe like the pay-per-view guy or he'll show up for a match
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here and there. I don't, I don't think we're in
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for full shows. I I don't think, I don't hate
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Pat McAfee. There's some things on his
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commentary. I think he he blew his load too
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often with and he he he started becoming a gimmick with certain
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gimmick characters and certain on screen personalities.
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And then that was kind of his like he became more of the
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entrance than the entrance itself type deals.
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And and I feel like he petered out longer shows and I he I, to
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me it seems like he struggles with a three man booth where he
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kind of sits there with his teeth in his mouth when the
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third man sits down. Yeah, it's.
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And I know we we're of competing minds on this.
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I I like a commentator that kind of more unless you're gonna be
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like Bobby Heenan, unless you're like a great comedian or Jesse
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Ventura, like a great heel. I I tend to like a commentator
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that kind of emphasizes what's going on in the ring and kind of
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blends into the background a little bit more than Pat Mac if
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he does. But he at A at a point I'm just
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like, Oh my God, he's frat boy Mara Ranallo and it's driving me
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insane. So.
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So I, I, I appreciate the humor, I appreciate that stuff, but you
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got to pick and choose. You got to pick and choose.
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It can't be every match. And, and there's times where
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even like me, I mean, my style of commentary has been very
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similar to that. And I you got to, you got to
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learn to adapt and with your partners as well as too.
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It's like it's, it's a, it's an interesting battle.
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People think wrestling commentary is super easy.
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It's not, It's not. And you're really criticized
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heavily every time you do it. It's not easy, especially if
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they I can't do play by play. That's that's, that's not my
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thing. I if I have to, I'll do it, but
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it's not my go to. I don't know a lot of wrestling
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moves. Yeah.
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And, and, and it, it's hard because it's, it's also finding
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the balance between calling every single move and telling
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the story. And it's a little tough.
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It's a little tough for for all to find that balance.
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Yeah. So see in the chat, Maddie is
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here, but kind of segues a little bit into our next one.
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Maddie is going to be our first ever female to win the
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Cauliflower Alley Club Luthaz Award, which is pretty crazy.
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That's the big conference they do in Vegas, right?
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Yeah, yeah, it's a big convention of wrestlers who have
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been around for a while. I believe Brian Blair, I know he
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was one of the key people in there, but I don't know if he
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still is or not. But yeah, that that's it's, it's
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one of their higher honors. It's like a almost like a
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lifetime achievement award. And this is a this is a big
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milestone. Good for her.
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Natty is, is finally getting her flowers for a a really
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incredible career. Never was really the person in
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the division, but she's I think she has more matches by far than
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any other woman in history. And and she's been there like
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getting close to 20 years. It's amazing.
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And I, I do love, I know it doesn't people on the that watch
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mainstream wrestling do not give a shit about this.
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But like, I feel like it's almost like a badge of honor
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when certain people have worked their way to the Indies and get
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the TV or they're so high on TV that they don't need to work the
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Indies, but they come down to and put on really entertaining
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things. Like, like I, I was kind of
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reminiscing a little bit about this the other day, just kind of
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in my own thoughts and I wanted to bring it up for you on the
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podcast. But like I, I respect the fuck
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out of Cody. Like Cody for me will go down as
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one of the goats because he's he, I mean, I know WE didn't use
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him properly and they they made them the the joke character and
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but but at the end of the day, he's a Rhodes, you know what I
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mean? Like he didn't need to do what
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he did and and he could have gotten a paycheck and WE
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probably kept him forever and he did not need to leave and go to
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the indie scene and really just killed himself down there.
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Like he, he kind of, he made that blueprint, you know what I
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mean? Like he was the one like, I
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don't need to be here, but I'm going to.
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And he appreciated more and just kind of his story of like, yeah,
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I literally went from rags to riches essentially, like working
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those shows and, and, and just kind of working.
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I don't know. I just really respect it.
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I think Natty going down to, to like GCW shows and stuff has
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been really fun. And it really elevated her.
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I think it puts her on a different level again.
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It rejuvenated her career. Yeah, you would see people do
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that when they would get cut. The classic one was Drew
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McIntyre. He's part, he's part of three MB
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and he and three MB has this. If you ever see the We LC match,
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it was better than it had any right to be.
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It was like a pre show match on an early WWE Network
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pay-per-view with El Torito and Hornswoggle.
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And after that match, like pretty much everybody involved
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in the match, it basically became a six man tag with three
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MB and well, like A7 on three handicap match with three MB and
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Los Matadores and all this. And then I'm pretty sure like
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shortly after this happened, everybody in the match with
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Heath Slater got fired. I I don't think the colognes
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were there. No, the colognes may have stuck
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around a little bit longer, but you then you had you had Drew
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McIntyre gets fired, Ginger gets fired, El 3 gets fired, Swaggle
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gets fired and Drew McIntyre hit the pavement.
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He went to TNA when TNA was at a really low point.
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He was part of the real resurgence of the UK scene
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before WWE killed that. And he he made a name for
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himself and made his way back. And you know, unfortunately, his
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timing was off when it came time to become the guy.
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And it happened during the pandemic and it cut him off
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before he could even get started.
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But Cody did that on his own. He didn't wait to get cut.
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He probably would have gotten cut.
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He probably would have been a or if he would have would have been
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way later, he would have been in that Dolph Ziggler zone.
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He would have been in that like that perennial guy or even Ron
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Killings or somebody like that. But he he, his legacy is going
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to be he bet on himself and he won big.
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He won big. Yeah, it's it's, it's just, I
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don't know. I think I think he has a he has
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a different appreciate. I think certain guys like you
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can hear it a lot with interviews too, like the people
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who kind of come up through the indie scene and the and and
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versus the talent who kind of just hey, I was a * athlete and
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WWE brought me in for NXT. Like I, I just feel like they're
16:23
two different upbringings into the business and it's, I think
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there's a different, like you hear old Kevin stories or Sammy
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stories and they're like, bro, like I treat WrestleMania like
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it's like it's another because like they've just been through
16:34
it so often, you know? And I, I think there's a more of
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a love and appreciation for me anyway.
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Like you can kind of see it with wrestlers like Danielson.
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Danielson crazy, crazy and like, yeah.
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And Lily says nepotism too. Like Cody didn't have to do that
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as wrestling royalty, but he kind of was like the Prince that
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went down reverse Aladdin style, you know what I mean?
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Like I mean I, I. Mean that being said, I think
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Cody's name helps it definitely helps with framing his character
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and inheriting some of his father's charisma certainly
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didn't hurt genetically. But yeah it's it's he he had a
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little bit of a different track like Cody wanted to be an actor
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Cody Cody moved to LA did the whole thing and then when that
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didn't work, then it was like OK wrestling and and it and look it
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helped him like John Cena did the same thing.
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John Cena went to LA to be an actor and then wound up at UPW
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wrestling school with Rick Bassman and Tom Howard.
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And look where Cody just get a roll.
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Isn't there like 4 or five? Does he play stars?
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Yeah, in a Street Fighter movie, right?
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Yeah, he's, yeah, Cody's playing guile.
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I don't know a lot about Street Fighter characters, but it's I
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think. It's Guile Guile.
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Guile's the military guy with the the the high blonde hair
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does the Sonic are. They going to give him the real
17:49
unrealistic big. Hairy.
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It looks like it there was a thing of somebody tagged Cody in
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this post. You just see a shadow with the
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big looks like a giant triangle on his head.
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So it looks like. Yeah, he's in it.
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Roman Reigns is in it. I believe he's playing akuma.
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It's I'm trying to, I'm trying to think of other wrestlers I
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know. Oh, I forget which Japanese
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wrestlers playing E Honda. It might be Hiroki Goto, who I
18:15
believe was a sumo wrestler, but he's not a big guy.
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But a guy from New Japan is playing E Honda, not a wrestler,
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but Jason Momoa is playing, is playing Blanca.
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Oh, wow. Yeah.
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So that it's a, it's a strange cast.
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It's a It's a very strange cast. Side note related, did you watch
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any TV movie? Anything going on right now like
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TVTV? Yeah, anything.
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I mean Dexter. I'm really into the new Dexter.
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Is it good? It it's very good.
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It's it's very good. I have not watched anything past
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the first run of show. I didn't watch the the new one
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but now that I have I I went and got Paramount Plus again and I
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think for like another $2.00 they add Showtime.
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So I think I'm going to try to watch some of that again.
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Yeah, but. There's the reason I ask is
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because there's a lot of stuff on my watch list right now that
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I want to watch, and it has very heavily wrestling ties to it,
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right? So heels, I've never watched
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heels. That's on my list.
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Heels is good, heels is. It's a little unrealistic, but
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heels is good. OK.
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And then well, I did it. I'm sorry Cake Dragon, I
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understand Viacom is not good, but I, I I'm going to be
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completely straight up honest with you.
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The reason I got it, I want to watch RuPaul Drag Race, so I'm
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watching him from season 1 through right but and Dexter was
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on there and on my list of stuff I want to watch and
19:36
Californication I kind of want to go back and rewatch.
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But anyway, wrestling related Sweet Tooth is on there and I
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want to, I want to kind of go through that some Mojo's and
19:44
Sweet Tooth. And then there was another show,
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Twisted. Metal.
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Twisted metal. That's on Peacock.
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I'm sorry, yeah, Peacock. Yeah, that's that's something I
19:50
want to watch. And there was another one that
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just came out recently with some wrestler, a wrestler or
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something that I wanted to watch, but I'm just.
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Asking here, here's one to watch.
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Glow is so good and I'm so angry they never got a fourth season.
20:02
Glow is. Glow is excellent.
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It's on Netflix and it is. It it.
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It, it's strange because it's a, it's a, it's a comedy show.
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It's well written and it is probably more than almost
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anything I've ever seen, like a scripted TV show respectful of
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professional wrestling in a very strange way, incredibly
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respectful of professional wrestling.
20:27
But it it's it's a fun show and, and unfortunately they they
20:30
greenlit it for 1/4 and final season, but then the pandemic
20:33
hit and everybody's schedules got all crazy.
20:36
And it's like Allison Brees in it.
20:38
And she's in that movie now with her husband, Dave Franco.
20:42
It's the horror movie where the two people are connected like
20:45
they I. Didn't see that one it.
20:46
It it might literally be called Connected.
20:50
She's in it, Marc Maron's in it, and he's always very busy with
20:54
doing stand up and everything. But it is GLOW is a phenomenal
20:57
show. And Peacemaker was the other
21:00
one. I was going to say, 'cause I
21:00
seen it, Everyone said, 'cause they said this, this new launch
21:03
of DC, it started with Superman, but they said Peacemaker's going
21:06
to show a lot of the future of. These James James Gunn is
21:10
heavily involved. Heavily involved.
21:13
So if I kind of want to see how that kicks things off.
21:15
Another interesting wrestling related show.
21:17
Very short it's a. When you can binge very
21:21
interesting. You have to be OK with subtitles
21:23
or watch it dubbed. Queen of Villains.
21:26
It's a, it's a mini series. It's like 6 episodes, 6 or 7
21:29
episodes. And it's the story and it's,
21:31
it's, it's heavy, heavily fictionalized.
21:33
They make, they make a super interesting stylistic choice.
21:37
But it's, it's a, it's a biography of Dump Matsumoto, who
21:41
was like the biggest heel in Japanese women's wrestling in
21:44
the 1980s. But one of the subplots is kind
21:47
of far fetched if you're really in the professional wrestling.
21:50
Like there's this through line through the show that
21:53
eventually, like these girls decide their matches are going
21:55
to be shoots, which is strange because it didn't happen that
22:00
way. But it's interesting to see like
22:03
her to Goose and the guy, all these things and then the real
22:05
to Goose and the guy. Oh was the wrestling coordinator
22:08
for the show usually like if if it's a show in the United States
22:11
is usually Chavo Guerrero like Chavo?
22:12
Well, there was there was some Japan, I forget.
22:15
I wish my buddy Grappa wasn't here, but he he did a whole
22:18
thing he was telling about where like early wrestling, woman's
22:21
wrestling in Japan, a lot of it did turn into shoots because
22:25
like they would just wanted to be taken seriously.
22:27
So they went out there and beat. Oh no, they, they, they
22:31
absolutely beat the hell out of each other there.
22:33
There is a documentary called Gaia Girls.
22:37
I might, I don't know if I'm pronounce that right.
22:38
It's Gaea. It was an offshoot promotion.
22:41
And there is a clip where where Akira Hokkudo throws a dropkick
22:49
at a girl. She yells at the girl, whips her
22:51
in the ropes and hits her with a shoot dropkick.
22:55
Like just kicks her right in the face as hard as she can with a
22:59
drop kick and the sound it makes is insane.
23:05
Yeah, he was showing me this one where this girl literally got
23:07
her face broken, like to the point where like it ruined her
23:10
career, almost ended her because this girl shot on her and like,
23:13
beat her. Like you can see her skull.
23:16
Like, like it was bad. Now that that would happen in
23:18
Japan, but I'm talking about like from from bell to bell,
23:21
they're actually trying to defeat each other.
23:23
I'm not talking about yeah, yeah, yeah.
23:24
Going in the business for yourself or taking liberties or
23:26
anything like that. So like, like there, there are
23:30
instances of that in Japan, a cure.
23:32
Maida notoriously shot on Andre the Giant back in Japan, the a
23:39
cure. And then Maida did it all the
23:40
time. Maida had the shoot kick where
23:43
he kicked. He kicked but.
23:46
The one with the big white dude with the big white dude was no
23:49
sound. Oh, that was Enoki.
23:50
But that, well, the big white dude was no sound.
23:52
Oh, that that was Enoki and Antonio would be great, Yeah.
23:56
You know when he kicked him in the face, I was.
23:58
Like, well, it was like, there's out of that.
24:00
It was like UFC1. Remember when the UFC got kicked
24:03
in the mouth? There's Great Sasuke and Dirt
24:05
Bike kid, that's a famous one. No, I was thinking of Maida.
24:09
She he was leaving the promotion.
24:11
I believe he was leaving All Japan for New Japan if I'm not
24:13
mistaken. And it might have those flipped
24:15
and he kicked. And actually now I'm thinking he
24:17
left New Japan for All Japan 'cause he kicked, he kicked
24:21
Hiroshihase right in the face and broke his orbital bone.
24:24
And even when WWF went over there, Koji Katau, who was a
24:28
former sumo, he actually wrestled up WrestleMania 7, him
24:31
and Janichiro 10, Ruby Demolition.
24:34
Koji Katau tried to shoot on Earthquake.
24:38
Oh it shouldn't. It didn't end well.
24:40
I I think they had I think they had an old be from sumo cause
24:43
Earthquake was a sumo wrestler. Yeah, that's that's wild.
24:47
But anything I didn't, I didn't watch Raw this week, did you?
24:50
Did you get a chance to watch Raw or NXT?
24:52
Raw I I caught a little bit of NXTI really just wanted to see
24:55
that building cause NXT was at the Met in Philly.
24:58
Like theater, right? Yeah, like they're doing
25:01
wrestling at the Met. That's interesting.
25:03
The Met is it? It's the Metropolitan Opera
25:05
House. It's like an old theater and,
25:07
and it's very interesting to see wrestling there.
25:09
It's like a, it's like a smaller version of the Hammerstein
25:12
Ballroom. The room was like on a stage and
25:15
it was a very sparse set up because like there was not like
25:18
the hard camera. There's nothing behind it.
25:20
And then they just had the it's, it's, it's more for, it's more
25:25
for like concerts and stuff. It was very, it was very like.
25:28
A ballroom. I didn't.
25:29
I didn't actually see photos of the.
25:31
Yeah, but like usually usually at the usually at the
25:34
Hammerstein, they put they put the ring on the floor.
25:38
This like the ring was literally on the stage because there isn't
25:41
really a big floor section. It's it's more for like it's
25:44
like an orchestra set up more so than a more so than a wrestling
25:48
set up. But yeah, I mean, because Rob
25:50
was in Philly and then that was in that was also in Philly.
25:53
Now AWI think their residency at the 2000 arenas coming up.
25:58
Yeah, they're doing like a whole a whole like week long thing
26:00
there. Anything that stood out for you
26:03
storyline wise? Storyline wise, I'm trying to
26:08
think what happened on RAW. Not a whole lot.
26:13
Not a lot. Yeah, it it they're, they're
26:16
really just kind of making their way to this clash in Paris thing
26:21
and they're just trying to keep the keep the storylines alive.
26:24
I think that's an, one of the downsides of only doing like 5
26:27
or 6 matches is it's taking even longer to pay things off in, in
26:32
WWE, which is not great. But yeah, it is what it is.
26:38
We, we, we did get a little bit of I'm trying to remember what
26:40
happened to Raw. Now it's kind of I, I, I watch
26:43
raw, but I'm watching raw as I'm making TV.
26:45
So I'm, I'm editing the PPWTV show while I'm watching RAW.
26:49
So unless something really grabs me like a great promo or a great
26:52
match or something like that, unless something, I mean, the
26:54
funniest thing, the most standout thing was probably EO
26:57
Sky just screaming in Japanese as she runs away from Oscar and
27:03
and Ria Ripley and and Kyrie saying that was fun because she
27:05
was she was going she was going ham on it.
27:09
I wish you had the one. Who spoke a foreign language at
27:11
PPW? And just go send them out there
27:13
and be like, don't say a word of English.
27:15
Don't. It'd be great.
27:16
I want that so bad. Oh, and there was a special
27:19
guest appearance by the Lombardi Trophy.
27:21
That was nice because it was in Philly.
27:23
Cooper De Jean and and Big Dom, the security guy.
27:25
We're in the front row with the Lombardi Trophy.
27:28
Enjoy it, enjoy it now. We're common.
27:30
We're common for you. They it's funny, even before
27:34
that there were Eagles chance and it was either they were
27:37
seeing them come to their seats or it was when the New Day was
27:40
out, Xavier Woods wrestled Penta and Grayson Waller was out
27:43
there. And Grayson Waller is a huge
27:46
Eagles fan. Yeah, he's a Philly fan.
27:48
He likes. Philly, well, I, I think because
27:50
he's Australian and Jordan Milata is, is a, is a big deal
27:53
in Australia if you're an NFL fan.
27:55
But because, yeah, when they were in Detroit, he was he was
27:58
given Jameer Gibbs from the Lions, the business and it kind
28:02
of it kind of went a little viral.
28:03
No, it was it was a I'm trying to remember some things that
28:06
happened. I know we Roman showed up again
28:08
and they're they're still kind of oh, Jay USO, I believe
28:12
wrestle Braun Breaker. That was a decent match.
28:15
But yeah, it was, it was. It was an episode of Raw.
28:17
Yeah, I don't, I don't know, man.
28:19
I just, I feel like, I feel like weekly wrestling for, for WWE
28:23
for me is just turning to like as Sesame Street as you can make
28:25
it. You know what I mean?
28:26
I I understand why it works and why it's popular and who you're
28:29
marketing for. It just doesn't seem like it's
28:31
for me right now. It's so funny, if you could take
28:34
like the best parts of WWE and the best parts of AW, you would
28:38
really have something because what one does well, the other
28:41
struggles mightily with. Like AW is so hard to follow
28:46
because new people are showing up all the time.
28:48
You don't really get a lot of background on them.
28:50
It's like, oh, here, here's this guy from from New Japan.
28:53
I don't really watch New Japan. Who is oh, he's really good.
28:55
Trust us. Here, here's here's Brodito.
28:58
It's a new tag team. And and this this luchador who's
29:01
the Ring of Honor champion is going to team with with who's he
29:05
teaming with Brodie King for some reason.
29:08
Why? Who knows?
29:09
They're just good wrestlers. Enjoy it.
29:11
Don't ask any questions. WWE aw kind of adds to that this
29:16
week with the MJF bit. So that's that's what I want to
29:18
talk about. I love MJF.
29:20
You know I'm an MJF guy God. So you he agrees to do his
29:25
contract and that's the whole premise of this promo a week
29:29
ago. And then the new promo is AW, is
29:32
like, Hey, how do we book ourselves out of an angle that
29:34
we probably shouldn't have done? Oh, let's threaten to light
29:37
someone on fire. We haven't done that three times
29:40
in the past three years. You know what I mean?
29:41
Like, so like, OK, I'm going to commit homicide to Briscoe if
29:46
you don't have let me a get my contract back for a future date,
29:49
which tells me MJM is not winning and he's going to win
29:52
later with the contract. And that that just in my brain
29:56
immediately he's like you, you just open the door.
29:58
Like, OK, this is what we're that you.
29:59
I don't need to watch the match right now because you just told
30:03
me instead of the ending. And then also you can win or the
30:08
title can change in a DQ or a count out or all these crazy
30:11
things. And it's just like, it kind of
30:14
ruined the match for me a little bit.
30:15
Like I'm not stoked for it as much.
30:17
Yeah. I, I, I, I I'm never a fan of
30:19
that because like, like, just say, OK, yeah, we'll do that.
30:21
And then as soon as he goes away, arrest that man.
30:24
He just tried to murder a murder a guy.
30:25
I know. Yeah, I know, I know.
30:26
With wrestling, you have to put the blinders on a little bit.
30:28
But it the harder you make it to suspend your disbelief, the the
30:32
more you're going to lose people.
30:33
Yeah, I, I, I don't, I don't mind the disbelief part.
30:36
It's just like you, you made it like, oh crap, this is actually
30:40
a do or die moment for this character.
30:42
That makes me think of how you're going to book a going
30:44
forward. And then you change that whole
30:47
dynamic the week on a like the next promo to back out of it.
30:51
And then you're like, oh, you didn't you didn't want to
30:53
commit. Almost like you, you were
30:54
playing chicken with yourself and lost and then showed me your
30:58
hand and I just like yeah, fuck you.
31:02
And and it does the one thing you should never do, it neuters
31:04
your babyface. It makes your babyface look
31:06
lesser than like WWE. I remember WWE did this with
31:10
when they, they did the whole Survivor Series match where
31:13
Sting shows up and it's like, oh, we're going to get rid of
31:15
the authority. If they if, if John Cena's team
31:18
wins this match, the authority is gone forever.
31:21
And they were gone for a month. And then it was a thing where
31:24
somebody threatened to, I think it was Seth Rollins threatened
31:26
to break Edge's neck. And if unless John Cena said the
31:31
authority could come back And like that was the big angle, a
31:33
month later and it's like, well, you just told people that watch
31:37
Survivor Series, you wasted your time.
31:39
Yeah, pretty much. And that's kind of how I feel.
31:41
But there's this main event picture right now in AW, but I
31:45
am excited. Kind of had some scary health
31:48
issues for a while there. Reports were saying he's not
31:50
great. Things are looking good for him
31:53
and Luchasaurus, our kill switch.
31:57
I'm not, I think he's still going by kill switch, but he
32:00
came out in pretty much full Luchasaurus gear.
32:03
He went full green again but on the poster it says kill switch
32:07
that he's in the match. That that's curious because the
32:09
whole thing was like, Christian is so controlling over him he's
32:13
going to name him after his finish.
32:15
Yeah, but he he's still on the post.
32:17
Let me just double check. I I could be wrong, but I
32:20
believe he's still yeah, it says kill switch and Kip Sabian on
32:24
the on the poster, right? And, and, and I mean, it doesn't
32:28
have to be kill switch, but I think the name change is
32:30
probably for the best. And but here's my take.
32:33
It was the same outlook. Come out in black, don't come
32:36
out in green until you're making the change.
32:38
Right, No, but I, I, I think there should be 1/3 name just
32:41
because that name, that that gimmick has a ceiling.
32:43
And it's it's the same reason why why Jack Perry had to become
32:48
Jack Perry not be jungle boy anymore, because it's jungle
32:53
boy. It's like jungle boy just
32:55
screams mid card. Luchasaurus the wrestling
32:57
dinosaur just screams mid card. So I but they were a really fun
33:02
tag team. I like they were, they were a
33:04
fun mid card tag team. But if you want to elevate, so
33:07
and if you want to keep them in the mid card, that's fine.
33:09
There's no shame in being in the mid card.
33:11
Like people think that if you're not the world champion, you're a
33:14
failure. That's not how wrestling works.
33:16
I just think. They connected with the fans
33:17
more with those two characters. They did no comedy gimmicks, fun
33:22
baby faces get over. But it's hard to Jack Perry when
33:25
jungle boy in that battle royal with him when he squared off in
33:28
the finals with with Christian, people were so excited that
33:30
Christian was there, but they were like, yo, I don't mind if
33:33
Jack Perry wins this match. He's killing it right now.
33:35
Like, but in that promo they teased that possibly the person
33:39
resurrecting him like Frankenstein, maybe Jack Perry.
33:43
Like people are saying that maybe that's Jack Perry.
33:46
Honestly, I would like a more grittier, darker.
33:49
We're sick of the wrestling business pushing us around
33:52
Jurassic Express again, you know what I mean?
33:54
Like. Don't mind it.
33:57
I like the brief time they were called a boy and his dinosaur
33:59
that was. Fun.
34:03
Yeah, that's pretty much AW, I will go through the card here in
34:06
a minute. But another news, rumor, WB
34:09
Internet thing I try. I'm trying to dive a little more
34:12
into the Internet conspiracies and what the wrestling Internet
34:14
community is saying. It's got to be true.
34:16
It's got to be. Hard.
34:18
It's so hard. Some of the stuff people are
34:20
arguing and upset about are wild to me.
34:23
I, I think they're just for, for, for people to say how much
34:26
they love the industry. They love to hate this industry.
34:31
Well, first of all, the Internet is just a place for negativity
34:33
to flourish of all kinds. That's just that's just what the
34:36
Internet is. Yeah, but the rumor is Jericho's
34:41
contracts coming up and supposedly is trying to maybe go
34:45
back to WWE. Yeah, I'll believe it when I see
34:49
it. Jericho loves to do stuff like
34:51
this. Jericho loves to find people
34:54
that will spread rumors and plant seeds like that.
34:57
I'll never forget this was I think when he had his first
35:03
sabbatical. So this would have been around
35:06
like O 5:00-ish the first time he left.
35:12
And he had a, a graphic on his website which is him doing the,
35:17
the arms pose, the Chris Jericho pose he would do when he was Y2J
35:21
with the TNA background behind him.
35:23
And he was. And then I think TNA even played
35:25
a Fozzie video and people like, is Chris Jericho on the TNA?
35:31
It was like right around the time TNA got on Spike TV too.
35:34
So it would have been like the perfect time.
35:35
It was like 04/05. It would have been the perfect
35:37
time for them to bring in Chris Jericho.
35:39
If if, if the Carters really wanted to throw that kind of
35:41
money around. And no, he was just, he was just
35:44
playing with people. Chris Jericho likes to push
35:47
people's buttons, likes to play with people's expectations.
35:51
Do I think he'll come back eventually?
35:53
Yeah. Do I think it's now?
35:56
No. Like, if nothing else is going
35:57
to come back to go in the Hall of Fame.
35:59
Yeah, I agree with that. Yeah.
36:01
All right, well, let's go. Let's run down this this
36:03
forbidden door card. I'll, I'll start from the bottom
36:06
here. So we have the TBS championship
36:09
four way match Mercedes, and I'm not even going to try to say the
36:13
other two names because I'll probably fuck them up.
36:14
And Alex Windsor, who looks like she's wearing Willows gear.
36:18
I I just can't get over the fact that her and Willow are the same
36:20
gear. Who who is the celebrity that
36:23
Alex Windsor looks like? She looks like an actress.
36:28
Let me, let me. See here.
36:33
But this match up to me, BPI see four people in a match and I, I
36:39
the clear path looks like that we're probably getting a main
36:41
title change, which is probably going to open up for Athena to
36:45
to need a new challenger competitor.
36:47
And it looks like to me, it looks like Mercedes, his path is
36:51
going to be going after Athena probably for the world
36:54
championship. And she loses this match in a
36:56
four way. So she doesn't have to take the
36:57
fall. Yes.
36:59
So yeah, I I would definitely say Mercedes.
37:01
I know, I know. They're kind of oh, Bozilla and
37:05
Persephone. I wasn't even sure who was in
37:06
the match. Persephone, yeah, but that's and
37:08
Bozilla. I mean the Persephone looks like
37:10
a a beast. And I think I.
37:13
Think Alex Windsor walks out of here.
37:15
TBS Champion. Really.
37:16
Alex Windsor? Yeah, I mean, they are.
37:20
They are giving her quite a push.
37:21
It's good to have. It's good to have friends in
37:23
high places. Yeah, yeah.
37:26
Then the next one here is kind of the same thing for me.
37:29
When I see three teams in one match and one team looks like
37:32
there's no shot they're going to lose.
37:34
They're probably going to lose because they don't have to be
37:36
involved in the pin. And it looks like the Hurt
37:38
Syndicate versus FTR versus bro bro King or whatever.
37:43
The Brodito Brodito. It looks to me as if probably
37:48
title change here because I don't think they're creative
37:50
enough to find. What I'm seeing here is this is
37:55
an elimination match, so like I could see Mercedes losing
38:00
because she doesn't have to take the pin.
38:03
Alex Alex Windsor can pin Persephone or Brazila.
38:07
This being an elimination match, unless they're going to start
38:09
like an earnest Bobby Lashley singles push.
38:13
I, I, I think I, I could see FTR winning it, but I think it's
38:16
more likely that, that the Hurt Syndicate retains unless, again,
38:20
they're really trying to, to enhance what what, or unless
38:25
they're really going to start a really big singles push for, for
38:28
Lashley. Yeah, and then we have Oh my
38:32
goodness, like a computer is running like shit.
38:34
Donate to the stream to help me get a new computer 'cause it's
38:36
like. I I have the card here if you
38:37
want me to run through it here. Yeah, I was on the next one, the
38:40
Adam, the Cope and. Oh, she.
38:43
I'm on Wikipedia, so the order's a little bit different.
38:47
See, that is now going to be Yeah, Adam Copeland and
38:50
Christian Cage, or Cope and Christian Cage against Kip
38:53
Sabian and Killswitch taking the place of the injured Nick Wayne.
38:58
Yeah, Nick Wayne and then Jordan Oliver kind of makes an
39:01
appearance out of YEAH. East West Express.
39:04
East West. Express maybe that fantasy
39:06
booking I said a while ago where I think Christian Edge and
39:09
Christian get back together and I think the team that would be
39:11
fun to them compete against would be Wayne and and Jordan
39:14
Oliver. So fingers crossed for that.
39:16
Yeah, even before the Nick Wayne injury, this is clearly being
39:19
set up for for Copeland and Christian to win.
39:22
They're they're going to they're going to.
39:23
I think this this edgy Christian nostalgia runs going to go a
39:26
little longer than one match. They got her.
39:28
Wrestle young. I love I love this whole he's
39:31
staying a Dick head and cope was just like, he's my Dick head.
39:35
You know what I mean? Like I kind of like this this
39:38
angle they're playing on like I like because Christian's just
39:41
doing this really well as being a dirt ball.
39:43
And I kind of like this good cop, bad cop.
39:45
And, and if they have chemistry like they had in the past, yeah,
39:49
the The Young Bucks have to be a team they wrestle.
39:51
FTR has to be a team they wrestle.
39:53
Like there's a lot of cool. Tag team, yeah, no, they're,
39:56
they're just buddies so they're. Definitely where where do you
39:58
rank when it comes to the ladder match is overall success of
40:03
teams now we'll I think a lot of them both had singles runs as
40:06
well as tag team runs. Where do you rank 1-2 and three
40:09
between the Hardee's Edge and Christian and Devon and Bubba?
40:14
Hardee's Edge and Christian Dudley.
40:16
Well, Hardy's, Dudley's, Edge and Christian Just Because the
40:19
other two teams stayed teams Edge and Christian in the moment
40:23
were great, but they went, their run was so short that they they
40:29
went their separate ways after like what, two years?
40:33
But I like the fact that they were such a fun tag team that
40:36
did go their separate ways. Oh, they were incredible.
40:37
Anytime that you can tease them coming back, I feel like they
40:41
have more firepower because of their amazing.
40:43
Well, yeah, well, yeah, because. Well, now you, it's also you
40:46
have nostalgia playing. You have we haven't seen this in
40:49
forever where yet they like, yeah, the novelty helps a lot.
40:54
But as far as like legacies as A tag team, I, I would say
40:58
Hardy's, Dudley's as a Christian.
41:00
OK, just because just because the Hardys and the Hardys have
41:03
been tag team, tag team for 30 years.
41:06
The Dudley's were A tag team for 20 years as a Christian were A
41:08
tag team for like 3. Yeah, then we have Zach Saber
41:13
junior versus Nigel McGuinness. That's that's fun.
41:17
That's. Sign me up, I'll take that.
41:20
That's probably the match one of the matches I'm I'm I'm most
41:22
looking forward to on this card. I I feel like there is some
41:27
matches on this card though that don't feel very forbidden Dory
41:30
to me. Like I don't think Copeland
41:32
Christian kept saving and Nick Wayne should.
41:34
Be. Like that, that's an AW match.
41:36
I don't really the the the tag team match.
41:38
Is it an AW match the the four way?
41:41
Sure you have your stardom in CML in there, so I'm fine with
41:44
it. The lights out steel cage you
41:46
just added Tana Tanahashi with with Osprey, Kenny, Abushi and
41:51
Darby against, you know, the Death Riders and the Young
41:53
Bucks. It doesn't feel.
41:54
I mean, I guess him being there is fine, but so he moves like,
42:00
yeah, I hate the game. I'm going to be honest.
42:02
Maybe it's just because I'm I'm throwing a little more local
42:04
love to the local boy. I don't think I'm not a fan of
42:07
Wheeler being there every single week and busting his ass and be
42:10
in the face of that team. And then Gabe Kidd comes in and
42:12
gets the the the, the big, the big pay-per-view.
42:14
Man, well, that that's probably just a placate into Japan.
42:17
Yeah, I'm just not a fan. I I just think the guy worked
42:20
really hard and he's going to get in sidelined.
42:23
I'm sure he doesn't give a shit, but that's just my thing.
42:25
TNT Championship. It's also like probably the last
42:28
AW match for Tanahashi, and that's because he's retiring
42:32
period in. January pretty sick though, that
42:34
he worked at Dynamite. Like he worked a few that that
42:37
guy. I'm saying like he's on his
42:39
retirement run and he's working weekly television and and the
42:41
cool thing about that one is we got to see him team up with
42:44
speedball and then Wheeler got to be in that match and take the
42:48
pin by him. So that's kind of cool that he's
42:50
still got to say like, Hey, I wrestle Tanahashi before he
42:53
retired. Like I know, like in the
42:55
wrestling landscape of stats and wins, people don't give a shit
42:58
about that. But we know wrestlers and they
43:00
turn around like, I fucking wrestled that guy.
43:02
You know, I mean, like, it definitely means a lot to to
43:05
wrestle somebody, especially Hiroshi Tanahashi, because.
43:08
Yeah, like that's, that's fun. I'm.
43:10
I it's the guy who saved Jeopardy.
43:11
Wrestling, yeah. I don't know Wheeler on a
43:13
personal level that well, but we have enough friends who know
43:16
Wheeler and speak very highly of him.
43:18
I just root for him. Like when he has an opportunity
43:20
to say I work a match with this guy, I I really, I enjoy that
43:23
for Wheeler. Then we have Kyle Fletcher
43:26
versus Takahashi. I'm not sold on Takahashi.
43:29
I know people really, really love him.
43:31
Oh, I love Hiromu. Hiromu's.
43:32
Yeah, Hiromu's so good. It doesn't do it for me, but I I
43:35
think this match can be really good.
43:36
I think they're both very talented.
43:37
I think that's gonna be a fun one.
43:39
You would have loved Daryl. You would have loved Daryl.
43:42
OK, Daryl was his stuffed cat. Oh, Storm versus Athena.
43:47
This is the match I'm circling and I want pumped into my veins.
43:52
I, I think Athena wins that one. I'm going.
43:54
To be honest, yeah, most likely. It's her, her time is now.
43:58
Okada versus Strickland, I love that match up.
44:01
I think that's going to be a lot of fun to watch.
44:03
I'm excited for that one. And then obviously MJF and Adam
44:05
Page are going to be a fun match.
44:07
But I will say that the the the storyline beats have taken me
44:10
out of it a little bit with the the recent stuff.
44:14
Yeah, Wheeler does not need a haircut.
44:16
He needs to keep going, keep going.
44:20
The people in the chat saying Tony, so here's what we're going
44:24
to do. Go to pro wrestling dot
44:26
scorecards. It's in my link tree.
44:27
Sign up, join the ABJ faction and put your picks in and maybe
44:31
we'll have a little friendly competition.
44:32
I will play along this time. I always forget but I will do it
44:36
this time. I haven't done one of those in
44:38
years. I would be so bad at that.
44:39
I I watch so little awi don't know what anything.
44:42
I don't know anything. Yeah.
44:44
All right. Well, let's go through this this
44:48
this our own Forbidden Door card.
44:51
This is going to be fun. This is going to be.
44:53
Fun. I have four matches written down
44:54
and then I want to kind of bounce and wing and kind of go
44:57
with people on the chat and see what they say as well.
44:59
But can I? Can I pitch a match first?
45:02
Yeah, I have 17 matches. So we could be here for a
45:06
minute. Yeah, I have.
45:07
It's a two night forbidden door. I have a four way.
45:11
I don't know where it goes on the card, but it's a four way I
45:14
need. I need some Bullet Club leaders
45:17
to fight each other and I want. I thought about this.
45:19
I thought. Versus Kenny versus Jay White
45:23
versus AJ Styles. All right.
45:26
I like that. That's not.
45:28
A four way I that. That no love for Cody?
45:30
OK. Cody was like that interim
45:32
leader with Kenny and I think we could put, I think we could put
45:35
Cody somewhere else. Later on, what are you, Tony
45:37
Khan? No love for evil?
45:39
Yeah. I don't have evil on my card,
45:43
OK? I have his life on my card
45:45
though. OK, I, I, I I do as well.
45:50
And then you want me to the next one or you want to go next?
45:52
No, go for it, because I have so many of them.
45:54
All right, I think this match has to happen.
45:56
I think when it comes down to the two best in the world or the
45:59
two that claim to the best in the world, for me, I need Osprey
46:04
versus Seth Rollins. I have something very similar.
46:07
Yeah, that's that's where I go. I think for their their
46:11
generation and what they're doing, I need Seth and Will
46:15
Osprey. I have something close to that.
46:19
Now I, I was tossed up on this one, but I think this one for
46:22
me, I now I, I would normally put EO in this match, right?
46:25
I want EO in this match up, but only because it's a match.
46:29
I feel we never got in full and it was teased and it was hinted
46:32
at like women's royal rumbles where one person kind of touched
46:35
the other one, but we never fully got them in a one-on-one
46:38
action. And for where they're she's at
46:40
right now and where the other ones at before they get to to
46:43
gone, I need Athena versus Oscar.
46:47
I want that. Match up.
46:47
That would be very good. I want to and I wanted EO
46:50
versus. Oscar.
46:51
That never happened in NXT because I I feel like Ember Moon
46:54
wrestled Oscar before. She did, but I but when they
46:57
when they tease it like Amber was kind of on a different level
47:00
and doing her thing and then they're kind of teasing her and
47:03
Oscar on the main roster and it just never happened.
47:05
But I think, I think Athena now with what she's accomplished in
47:08
wrestling, I think getting that one batch back with Oscar would
47:12
be unbelievable. Makes sense?
47:14
And then I have a comedy match. No, wait till you hear My Comedy
47:17
Match. My Comedy Match is the best
47:19
comedy match ever. I think this one can rivalry it.
47:22
All right. It's a female comedy match.
47:25
OK. With Chelsea Green versus Harley
47:29
Cameron. How did I forget Chelsea Green?
47:32
Chelsea Green is not on my card now.
47:33
She's my favorite woman in wrestling right now and she's
47:36
not on my card. Yeah, I heard Harley Cameron.
47:39
That's a disgrace. I I forgot Chelsea Green.
47:43
How dare you? No, she she's the best.
47:45
She's the best. All right, so here we go with my
47:51
night one. We're going to start off hot.
47:53
We're going to start off with a spectacle.
47:55
We're going to start off with a we're going to start off with a
47:58
ladder match. So it can be a yeah, if if you
48:01
win, depending on what company you work for, you're getting a
48:03
chance of the junior heavyweight title, maybe the TNT title,
48:07
maybe the Intercontinental title.
48:09
But it's going to be the the ticking time bomb himself.
48:12
Aromu Takahashi from New Japan, Ricochet Penta El Desperado I
48:18
think is the junior heavyweight champion.
48:19
So that's going to be a little tough for him.
48:21
Speedball, Mike Bailey and the AAA mega heavyweight champion El
48:25
Gio del Vikingo. Oh, the only thing I would I
48:29
would, I would petition backstage for with this is now
48:31
that he's there, we got to throw Ace in.
48:34
I want I want Ace in that match somewhere.
48:36
There wasn't enough room. He he can he can make his name a
48:39
little bit a little. It'll be in the pre show battle
48:41
royal. All right, we'll throw him in
48:42
there. He'll be away.
48:44
Congratulations to Ace Austin, now signed to AW Love you and.
48:47
And happened as we were recording last week.
48:49
Do you think that, do you think that indicates or leads to that
48:54
they're interested in Chris Bay if he comes back and then doing
48:56
something? There that.
48:56
That would be amazing. Yeah, hopefully.
48:58
I would love that. I hope it means they're
49:00
interested in Gia Miller too. Please, could you imagine Renee
49:05
Paquette, Alicia Toot and Gia Miller as your backstage team?
49:09
Yeah, 2 Canadians and the most southern person you've ever met
49:12
in your life and all and all wonderful at their jobs.
49:17
Can I, can I add another person that I think would, if you put
49:20
out of the fourth woman to that roster of the backstage team and
49:23
possibly even commentary every now and then add Veda.
49:25
Give me Alicia Veda, Rene Paquette and Gia Miller as your
49:29
backstage correspondent team or commentary.
49:32
I'll take it all day long. That would be fun.
49:35
So I went a little bit of a different route with a with Will
49:39
Osprey because I think I think he can give us a glimpse of the
49:42
old version of this guy. I want to do Will Osprey and AJ
49:45
Styles because I think there are two guy, I think there are two
49:48
guys who evolved themselves. Will Osprey went from doing
49:53
these crazy aerial things to doing a lot some of the crazy
49:55
aerial things, but becoming very well-rounded a lot of a lot of
50:00
a. Lot of.
50:04
What it will Osprey does reminds me of AJ Styles in a very good
50:06
way. And Aji mean he's not a young
50:10
guy anymore. His his he's, you know, probably
50:13
getting close to the end, but I think he's got enough in the
50:15
tank to really, really, really deliver another classic with a
50:19
guy like Osprey. So that that's my match.
50:21
Here's my comedy match. I'm going to I'm going to raise
50:23
the stakes on the comedy match. This is a, an inter gender six
50:27
person tag match and we got a special referee on one side
50:32
representing the judgement day. We're going to have Dominic
50:34
Mysterio, Finn Balor and I, I put Liv Morgan, it could be
50:37
Roxanne Perez very easily. They're going to be taking on
50:41
the the, the, the most amazing trio of all time, Orange
50:44
Cassidy, Mr. Iguana and Harley Cameron.
50:48
And there is going to be a moment in this match where you
50:50
have the Finn Balor puppet, the Harley puppet, Lieska and and
50:57
the special guest referee in this match is from TNA
51:00
Wrestling, the director of authority Santino Marella, who
51:03
puts them in in check with the Cobra.
51:05
And it's the best comedy spot of all time.
51:07
They keep trying to put a puppet on Orange's hands, but they keep
51:10
stiffing. His hands.
51:10
No, no, there, there should be there, there should just be.
51:12
Like he's just going to do the thing where he just draws like a
51:14
thing, like eyes on his hand, like whatever.
51:17
That's what that's going to be. That's going to be his puppet,
51:19
right? There his his foot.
51:20
He'll put eyes on his foot and then when he does the small
51:22
kicks, that's his puppet. Yeah.
51:24
Yeah, we, we need an orange cast or, or it's going to be like a
51:26
one of those string puppets. But it, he just doesn't, it's
51:29
just limp. It's just hanging there.
51:31
But there, there's going to be an Orange Cassidy puppet too.
51:34
And then Dom and Liv Morgan is going to look like, what are we
51:37
doing here? Like they're going to be,
51:39
they're going to be the, the, the straight man for this.
51:42
So then we're going to go to, I had a tough time with, with what
51:46
to do with edging Christian, but I wanted edging Christian as a
51:48
team. I, I put them against.
51:51
I feel like we're going to get the bar 2.0.
51:53
I think we're building toward that on WWE right now because
51:56
the bar started with like Sheamus and and Cesaro or
51:59
Claudio now and before, like feuding with each other and then
52:02
they got this mutual respect. I think we're going the same way
52:04
with Sheamus and Rusev. So I'm going to do Shamus and
52:07
Rusev against Edge and Christian because I know Sheamus and Edge
52:09
are very good friends and it'll be a great match.
52:11
OK. I I do have another tag team.
52:13
I mean this is this is this is an easy one.
52:15
I mean this has to happen. We got to get the Bucks versus
52:18
the Usos. Kind of I have that this is
52:22
that's part of my night 1 main event Part 1.
52:24
But I do I do have two more women's matches too.
52:27
All right, do you want to? Do you want me to I?
52:29
I can see the table here. Tessa versus Charlotte Flair.
52:33
OK. I need Tessa Charlotte Flair and
52:36
I need Masha versus Stephanie Valkyr.
52:38
That would be fun too. Yeah, that'll be very fun.
52:41
So my next match here is going to be LA Knight against MJF.
52:47
The two the battle of the two talkers.
52:48
You're going to have a big, interesting promo.
52:51
Can I? Can I?
52:52
I had an idea for MJF and I'll pitch it to you.
52:55
I had two names. I was thinking Dom just because
52:59
of that scumbag of this and how that had.
53:00
Dom's locked in that comedy match.
53:03
Yeah. Or MJF versus Logan Paul,
53:07
because I think the that. Would be interesting.
53:09
Would be interesting. That would be very interesting.
53:13
I think they would work better as A tag team because I think
53:16
NGFNGFS character, Logan Paul's character would like one another
53:19
and so much as NGF could like anybody.
53:23
But yeah, I, I, I, I I would enjoy that.
53:25
But I, I think LA Knight and NGF is a good way to go with that.
53:28
You have to do this one timeless Tony Storm against Ria Ripley,
53:31
the two kind of faces of the women's divisions in both
53:34
companies. Yeah, they were.
53:38
They were. They wrestling for the UK
53:40
Women's Championship. I believe Ree was the first
53:42
champion and Tony was the second.
53:43
Yeah. And so I, I have Seth Rollins
53:48
wrestling Kenny Omega. I think that's, that's my 'cause
53:52
that's a match a lot of people talked about when AW was first
53:54
starting. I, I that, that's what I would
53:56
do with Seth Rollins more so than Osprey.
53:59
And if we can do business here and we're going to have to do
54:02
business here. But what What did Jerry Jarrett
54:06
always say? Personal issues, draw money.
54:10
So my night 1 semi main event CM Punk versus Jack Perry.
54:17
Interesting. If we can do business, if we can
54:19
do business, if we can coexist as as as as professionals, CM
54:25
Punk versus Jack Perry, that who that would get so much so many
54:29
people talking is are they going to be able to cooperate?
54:33
Is it are they is it going to break down like it would be
54:36
hotly anticipated? And then my main event for night
54:40
one, I forgot to say forbidden doors going to have two rings
54:43
because we're going to have a war games.
54:45
We're going to have a war. It's The Bloodline All Stars,
54:48
Roman Reigns, Solo Sakoa, The Usos and Sami Zayn taking on a
54:55
mishmash of the Blackpool Combat Club, the Death Riders, The
54:59
Elite and a few other things. Jon Moxley, Bryan Danielson
55:03
making a comeback, The Young Bucks and Kozuchko Okada.
55:07
Wow, the war games. OK, I, I I also was shopping.
55:13
Cena has to get a match and I think if Cena's on her
55:15
retirement and Okada's on his retirement, that has to happen.
55:20
Tahashi, I mean. Tahashi on his retirement.
55:22
I think that that can have that has I.
55:24
Think that was just night one. That was just night 1.
55:27
Even though I think Okada would be the better match up to
55:29
physically watch over Tahashi and John Cena I.
55:32
I have some, I have some smoke and mirrors we can do because
55:35
that's part of my night too. Night Night 2 is Night 2 is
55:40
going to showcase some of the up and coming stars some of the the
55:45
the future picks. We're going to start off.
55:48
We're going to start off with a three-way between Yoda Suji, who
55:51
has a ton of charisma as an up and Comer in New Japan, Kyle
55:54
Fletcher and Braun Breaker. And then we have a three-way
55:59
tag. I I'm kind of mixing stables
56:02
here a little bit for the WWE guys.
56:04
I have they've teamed before Bronson Reed and JC Mateo.
56:08
They were former PWG Tag Team Champions as as Jonah Rock and
56:13
Jeff Cobb taking on the New Day FTR and Bishamon from from New
56:19
Japan. OK, I like it.
56:22
We have a. Four way tag here, straight up
56:23
IWGP title match. I just would love to see this
56:25
match. Chad Gable against Zach Sabre
56:27
Junior, that would be incredible.
56:32
That and that is right up my alley.
56:35
Right up my alley. Chad Gable and Zach Sabre
56:37
Junior. I have a women's war games, I
56:40
have A and this is where I was like God damn, WWE has such a
56:45
deep women's roster. It is insane.
56:46
It is super how how deep and how talented WWS women's rosters
56:50
like the people I had to leave off.
56:52
So I wound up because we already had a match tonight, one EO Sky,
56:55
Becky Lynch, Tiffany Stratton, Bianca Bel Air and Stephanie
56:58
Vaquer against Mercedes Monet, Athena, Alex Windsor, Mina
57:03
Shirakawa and Chris Statlander. OK and now we have 4 matches
57:08
left, Swerve Strickland and Randy Orton.
57:11
I like that. I someone said someone said in
57:16
my chat the other night they wanted Swerve Strickland versus
57:18
Booker T. OK here.
57:22
Here's an here's here's the Legends match.
57:24
Here's here's the Legends match for you, John Cena, Hiroshi
57:28
Tanahashi, Mystico and Chris Jericho.
57:34
OK, Cena and Jericho one more time.
57:37
Yeah. And you can do enough smoke and
57:38
mirrors and that'll be a that'll be a match where it's like 4
57:41
people. A guy who really revived
57:45
Japanese wrestling guy really revived Mexican wrestling.
57:48
John Cena who's been the the face of WWE for 15 years.
57:52
And Chris Jericho, who was the guy who really helped put AW on
57:54
the map. I think, I think that's, that's
57:57
more of a symbolism match. And that leaves us with two
57:59
matches left. I will say this real quick,
58:02
Wheeler Yuda, it definitely doesn't suck if you if we've
58:05
watched him in a lot in the indie scene and then working his
58:08
way up, he's unbelievable. Don't let him get just because
58:12
he's always getting pinged and wrestling.
58:14
He's he's very, very. So I'm wrestling an hour in a
58:17
disgustingly hot building. I went out in the parking lot
58:19
and died a couple times. So we have two final matches and
58:22
this one might be the one I I want to see most of all.
58:26
Give me guther against Konoski to to catch the OK.
58:30
Do you think that do you think? The do you think the Keshna wins
58:32
the New Japan World title off Zack Sabre Junior, possibly
58:35
because he won the G1? That's interesting.
58:38
And people are like, they what I'm hearing the Japanese
58:40
audience hates it. They hate the Tana.
58:43
That's because he's an outsider. They feel like they're because
58:45
of the Det. Yeah, some of the chats, Nick
58:49
Wayne versus Javon Evans. I don't hate that matchup.
58:52
I, I, I very briefly before I put Vikinga when I had Javon
58:55
Evans in that, that ladder match, I, I did have Javon Evans
58:58
in there. Jericho versus AJ, Dan Housen
59:01
versus Mr. Iguana. I I did forget about Dan Housen.
59:05
Yeah, I suppose. I think he's going to be going
59:07
to WB once he's. Done well, he he asked to be
59:09
that his contract not be extended, but I think they they
59:11
extended it. Yeah, Microman versus
59:14
Hornswoggle Microman. Yeah, EO versus Mina.
59:18
I don't hate that. I like that matchup.
59:20
Yeah, Roxanne Perez versus Sky Blue.
59:25
Yeah. What else we got here, Seth
59:30
versus Will, Dom versus Wheeler, hair versus hair match.
59:34
OK, I don't mind that at all. Lashley versus Moose, I don't.
59:38
I don't hate that. That'll be fun.
59:41
Yeah, I like that one a lot. Colt versus Omega, I said that
59:44
that that's a match I think has to happen before either one of
59:47
them hang up the boots. I think if they're both in the
59:49
same company, they have to touch, well, at least once.
59:52
Like, even if it's a respect baby first babyface match on a
59:54
Dynamite, I don't care, you know?
59:56
I mean, just give it to me. Me versus JD from New York.
59:59
Not even a contest. Trying to get clicks.
1:00:05
Tony Khan versus Nick Khan, Jerry Springer style.
1:00:08
Big yeah. No religion.
1:00:10
Yeah. MJF versus John Cena.
1:00:12
So the one last match I had, and you kind of have to do it, is
1:00:16
Hangman and Cody Rhodes. Yeah, yeah, that's got to be the
1:00:19
match. I agree.
1:00:21
All right, well, that'll do it for us.
1:00:23
BPII got to cut out of here. I have to use the bathroom but
1:00:27
PPW September 13th A lot of stuff going up now for matches
1:00:31
as. Well, as as a matter of fact, as
1:00:33
soon as I'm done here and one's going up, if you were at the
1:00:36
show, you already know this one. But our golden ticket match is
1:00:40
we do what, every September now the golden ticket is up for
1:00:43
grabs and it will be two smooth. Sean Smith, Malik Delvante,
1:00:49
Matthew Yeager and Precious. And.
1:00:53
Precious. What a grouping.
1:00:54
What a grouping. I'm just saying this now, BP
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'cause I there there has been a small revolution happening on my
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Instagram. I don't know if you've been
1:01:01
seeing it, but I'm part of the hashtag Justice for Gem
1:01:05
movement. Because I don't make the poster.
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I don't make the posters. Don't.
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Not on the poster, not getting title shots.
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I don't know. I'm just saying clear.
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I'm looking at the camera. ABJ is not affiliated with the
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PPW booking or responsibility of who gets what matches.
1:01:21
I just talked to them backstage. The fans want justice for Jam
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BP. Like these get out of control.
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They yelled at me more when I was the backstage interview than
1:01:28
I am now as a general manager about.
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This I've been taking the blowback BP.
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No, I got a new name. I'm I'm bad news Blackwell.
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Do you have Harlem sewer rats? Not yet I'm working.
1:01:39
Are you, are you going to give somebody the ghetto blaster?
1:01:43
But awesome, awesome stuff going on over in the socials.
1:01:46
Thank you guys so much for for tuning in and supporting those
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those backstages. I actually been posting a lot of
1:01:52
the backstage interviews that I'm in as well over the tornado
1:01:54
tag side because I have a clips of all the old backstage stuff I
1:01:57
did over there. So I've been putting even more
1:01:59
of the newer content on the tornado tag page.
1:02:01
So you can check out the PPW backstage stuff.
1:02:04
You can check out some of the other things that we did over
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there. So definitely go and support
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that. I actually got called BPI, got a
1:02:10
little emotional. I was on the TikTok live with
1:02:12
some people and someone said that I'm the independent version
1:02:15
of Chris Van Vleet and it, it felt nice.
1:02:17
I'm not going to lie. I was like, thank you for that.
1:02:20
I appreciate that. I respect Chris Van Vleet.
1:02:22
Isn't Chris Van Vleet the independent version of Chris Van
1:02:24
Vleet? But.
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But he he he interviews more of the mainstream guys where I'm
1:02:30
doing more of the upcoming guys. Yeah.
1:02:31
Gotcha, gotcha. I think that's what they were
1:02:34
trying to say. But all right, well, let's get
1:02:35
out of here. BP.
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We'll see you guys next Thursday for more.
1:02:38
I'm sure we'll be covering Forbidden Door, what we thought
1:02:41
of it and what other happens that's going on.
1:02:44
Yeah, we'll be talking all that and maybe one of these days we
1:02:48
can get together and film a bonus episode that we can throw
1:02:50
out for you guys. Maybe a history lesson.
1:02:52
I may or may not have a belt be coming in.
1:02:54
We could do a belt episode. We could talk about the history
1:02:57
of a belt and out there, but we'll see you guys next.
1:02:59
Time not not this week or the week after, but that that
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September 4th, I'm going to be I'm going to be watching a
1:03:06
banner get raised and I'm going to be in front of Jerry Jones's
1:03:09
stupid face. So that that's that's going to
1:03:11
be something I've been looking. Forward to roll up to live.
1:03:14
Yeah, we'll not be live. We'll see you guys next time
1:03:16
we're out of here.