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Josh's Soap Box: Is It Racist To Ask Where You're From? · Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps

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  It's supposed to be a time for reflection, for rejoicing.
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  Maybe rejoicing was last week and this week is the reflective, contemplative, what are
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  we going to make of 2023 moment, but there's so much stuff going on in my life.
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  And I don't even know if I'm allowed to say happy new year still.
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  I mean, it's, it we're a week in, Larry David, he's, he's nodding to it.
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  Hey, Larry!
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  Randy!
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  You got it.
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  Yeah.
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  I'm a friend of Susie's.
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  I know, I know, I know, yeah.
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  Happy New Year!
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  It's a little late, frankly, for the happy New Year's, you know?
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  Why?
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  Just happened a couple of weeks ago, right?
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  Yeah, that's too long.
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  Statute of limitations.
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  He's kind of run out on the New Year's.
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  Three days.
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  Plenty.
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  Three days.
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  By the way.
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  Everything does.
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  It doesn't have to be happy.
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  Why does everything have to be happy?
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  So I'm past Larry David's three days.
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  I like it.
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  I like happy New Year.
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  I think it's good.
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  My Christmas tree is still up.
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  It's a real one.
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  And I just want the place to smell of pine and mango for as long as possible.
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  But if you're not in Australia, then you don't understand this benefit of the festive season
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  down under.
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  It's hot.
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  And so there are tons of mangoes, the likes of which non-Australians simply can't fathom
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  how delicious an Australian mango is.
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  And, you know, because it's also hot, the Christmas trees are constantly wilting.
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  It's a battle against nature.
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  It's a battle against the good Lord to try to keep your Christmas tree adequately hydrated.
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  So your house ideally smells of festive Christmas tree oil hanging in the hot, humid air
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  and rotting a mango rather and pineapple, if you so choose, coming from the kitchen.
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  It's just delightful.
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  And I want to keep that going until at least Australia day, which last time I checked was still on January 26th.
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  But because that's the commemoration of the day on which the Europeans invaded the First Nations people
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  were not really supposed to celebrate that.
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  So we'll just say, I would keep the Christmas tree until the day formerly known as Australia day,
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  which I would never condone because genocide.
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  Is that okay?
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  Can we do that?
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  Oh, while I'm putting my foot in it, can I put my foot in something else also about race?
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  Can I also get canceled about some other racial thing because I got this piece of paper.
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  I'll get to it in a second.
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  The reason this came up in my little brain of mine is I was in a taxi cab.
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  And I missed an opportunity to have what I'm sure would have been a fascinating conversation.
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  With a guy, the driver turned out to be Iraqi.
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  But I only found out at the end of the cab because I'm now too cautious and politically correct
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  about asking anyone where they're from for fear that I'm somehow going to get canceled in a taxi.
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  I don't know who, I don't know why, but no, I want to be nice.
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  And I don't know if the Iraqi taxi driver is a 22 year old woke university student.
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  I mean, I know that he isn't because he's obviously not.
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  He's clearly a mid 50s Iraqi gentleman, not a 22 year old woke university student.
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  Nonetheless, I don't know what is what's going on in his brain and I just don't want to go there.
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  And it reminded me of some fabulous conversations that I've had with your taxi drivers from abroad
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  where I'd never be, I would never have been so rude as to be like, where are you from?
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  Or like, oh, oh, you sound not Australian.
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  You're clearly not one of us.
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  What are you doing in my country?
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  I wouldn't phrase it like that.
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  I wouldn't say, what are you doing here?
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  I wouldn't say, go back home to the land you came from.
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  You foreigner?
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  I wouldn't say such a thing.
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  The way I would phrase it is I would say, so did you grow up in Sydney?
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  That's what I'd say.
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  And they'd get the hint.
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  You know, they'd say, no.
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  No.
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  Of course, if not, they'd do the grudges here to listen for high speak.
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  Because they were all Israeli grosses, apparently.
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  But you know, you'd ask them, you'd try to tease it out of them and you go, how, how, you know, why did you go up here?
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  Well, you know, where are your parents from?
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  Well, like, you know, where did you grow up?
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  You know, you're from, you just, you find a way to do it that's a bit delicate.
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  I always was like that because I'm a polite gentle person.
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  And I'd have fascinating conversations with people because, you know, they're all like,
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  they're nuclear physicists and stuff who've been exiled from the Iranian regime
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  where it was like they either had a choice of having their fingers chopped off and being hanged in a public square
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  or they could leave.
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  And they, many of them wisely chose to leave for, frankly, a better place anyway.
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  Yeah, I'm sure Sydney's nicer than Tehran.
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  So you'd have these fascinating conversations with these people who wouldn't be qualified to work in the industries in which they were trained here.
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  You know, because we keep Australian jobs for Australians and whatnot, not for your Iranian cab drivers.
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  But nonetheless, they'd be, they'd be earning a living.
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  They'd be doing a, earning a good wicket, as we say, in cricket mad countries.
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  And I'd chat to them and we had great bonding moments like that.
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  Now, I get that nobody wants the kind of experience that one of my friends has had.
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  Australian as Australian can be born and raised in Australia.
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  Australian citizen, Australian resident, all her life.
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  Her parents are ethnically Chinese from Hong Kong.
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  And when she entered the US ones, had one of those asshole customs guys look at her passport and go where you're from.
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  And she was like, Australia, no, where you're from.
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  Australia, Australia, what do you mean?
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  No, where you're really from, like glaring at her.
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  And she's like, well, I was born and raised in Australia.
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  But if you mean why do I look like this, then it's because my parents, like that's horrible.
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  That's just fucking ignorant and stupid, especially since half of Australia has arrived since the Second World War.
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  And we're one of the most multi-ethnic countries in the entire world.
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  But that kind of, I mean, I've had shitty attitudes like that from customs people.
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  I used to live in a street called pineapple street in Brooklyn Heights in New York.
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  And coming through customs once, the bloke goes, hmm, pineapple street, huh?
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  A lot of fruits there.
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  I was like, what?
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  It's like a lot of fruits.
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  A lot of fruit, fruits.
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  A lot of fruity, toodies.
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  Like, I was like, what are you, so you're implying that I'm a homosexual?
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  Because I live in pineapple street.
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  I mean, yeah, you know, dickheads are going to be dickheads.
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  Nonetheless, I was unable to strike up a conversation with this Iraqi cab driver
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  because I didn't find out until the very last moments of the cab ride when he offered it to me without my inquiring
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  that he was from Iraq.
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  And I realized that the previous 20 minutes of my life could have been,
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  A, much more interesting.
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  And B, could have involved much more community in a sense of comedy and, I guess, connection
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  between me and this guy, two people who live in Sydney, mixing the cultures of the world, fostering good will,
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  and understanding between this planet's great nations, and also between this planet's great nations and Iraq.
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  The reason why I've been reticent to ask people is because, I don't know if you saw this thing that happened at the end of last year,
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  a little over a month ago, with the woman at Buckingham Palace.
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  If you know what I'm talking about, you know what I'm talking about.
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  There's this charity woman.
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  And Gozy Falani is her name, except it's not actually her name.
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  Apparently, her name is actually Marlena or Marlena Heedley.
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  Anyway, African English, you know, an English woman.
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  She's a, oh, see, I'm already canceled myself.
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  She's not an African English woman. She's an English woman.
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  She's a citizen, a resident, born and raised in the UK.
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  I think she was born, maybe.
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  Anyway, she grew up in London.
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  An appearance, though, immigrants from Barbados, and she's very African.
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  And when I say very African, I'm not talking about her skin color, although that also happens to be, frankly, very African.
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  I'm talking about the fact that whenever you see her on TV, as I just have on a clip from Good Morning Britain,
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  where she's talking about the tremendous horrors that she endured at the hands of the royal family,
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  she's wearing a head dress thing on over her head, which is a red yellow and green.
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  And she's wearing big dangly earrings that are red yellow and green.
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  And she's wearing a necklace of beads that are red yellow and green.
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  And she's wearing a shirt with red yellow and green stripes, flag stripes.
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  Now, if you know anything about flags, you know that red yellow and green is the Pan African flag.
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  That's the color of many African countries.
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  It's the color of the Ethiopian flag, the guinea and flag, the Cameroon flag, the Ghanaian flag, the Senegal flag, the Mali flag.
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  Green, yellow, red.
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  She's on this show, Good Morning Britain, complaining about the fact that a palace aid assumed that she was African, instead of British.
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  There was this function at Buckingham Palace.
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  And Prince Harry's godmother, is that who this person was? Lady Hussie. Her name's Hussie, really?
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  Unfortunately, I suppose 83 years ago, Hussie didn't mean what to say.
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  Anyway, Lady Hussie, 83 years old, is basically asking people where they're from.
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  But she's making chit-chat, essentially. But she's not just making chit-chat.
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  She's also trying to acquire information about all of the guests that she will subsequently pass on to the royals, so that the royals don't make mistakes.
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  And they know who they're talking to.
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  So she's the queen's senior lady in waiting. She's very senior at the Buckingham Palace.
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  I mean, she's 83 years old. Of course she's very senior.
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  You know, it'd be weird, wouldn't it? If she was a work experience girl.
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  She said, how long have you been here? You're 83 years old?
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  Yes, I just arrived three months ago. I'm on an internship. It's my first time in the palace.
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  No, she's been there for all her life. She's the queen's senior lady in waiting.
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  And she was subsequently been booted out of the palace because of this.
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  Sometimes people say, why do you focus on culture war things and identity politics?
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  When all it is is just people arguing on Twitter. It doesn't have any consequences.
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  There's nothing real. It's not real. It's just idiots on social media arguing with each other.
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  Well, to those who say I'm too online, is there anything less online than Buckingham Palace?
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  I mean, is there anything more old school and establishment and less new media than Buckingham Bloody Palace?
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  And this is where this kind of madness has gotten to.
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  And it's not that I have any sympathy for an 83 year old mildly racist lady.
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  It's that I have sympathy for the Iraqi cab driver who didn't get to have a nice chat with sparkling personality,
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  because I was too encumbered by a whole new set of norms that don't make any bloody sense.
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  So anyway, Lady Susan Hussie, that little Hussie.
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  Even after giving a personal apology to Benghazi Filani, whose name wasn't Benghazi Filani,
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  until she decided to become all Africanized, her name was Marlene Hedley.
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  So Benghazi was invited back to the palace for a personal apology after being asked where she was really from.
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  Actually, I should read the transcript, shouldn't know what happened.
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  This is according to Benghazi.
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  She tweeted this.
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  This is all comes from Twitter.
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  She tweets something and Prince Harry's godmother gets fired as a result.
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  And like the BBC was reporting on this, like, you know, there was an asteroid headed towards Earth
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  that Earth needed to tell people about for days on end.
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  Here's the full conversation as we counted on Twitter by Benghazi Filani.
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  Lady S.H.
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  Lady Susan Hussie.
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  Where are you from?
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  I'm assuming she speaks haven't heard of.
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  Me, this means Benghazi, sister space.
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  No, where do you come from?
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  We're based in Hackney.
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  No, what part of Africa are you from?
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  I don't know.
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  They didn't leave any records.
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  But you must know where you're from.
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  I spent time in France.
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  Where are you from?
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  Here, the UK.
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  No, but what nationality are you?
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  I'm born here and British.
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  No, but where do you really come from?
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  Where do your people come from?
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  My people, lady, what is this?
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  Oh, I can see I'm going to have a challenge getting you to say where you're from.
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  When did you first come here?
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  Lady, I'm a British national.
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  My parents came here in the 50s when, oh, I knew we'd get there in the end.
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  Your Caribbean, no lady, I'm of African heritage, Caribbean descent and British nationality.
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  Oh, so you're from, and that is where she leaves the conversation.
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  She's very specific.
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  I'm of African heritage, Caribbean descent and British nationality.
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  Like Lady Hussey should have guessed that, you know, should have been obvious all along.
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  I don't quite know what to do with all this.
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  So anyway, then she tweeted that the Buckingham Palace went into total and complete.
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  Meltdown.
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  The BBC was reporting on this.
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  The Guardian was reporting on this as if it was, you know, and then, of course,
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  because they were reporting on this so much, then the real racists come out of the woodwork
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  and spew an immense amount of hate at this poor woman in Gozifalani,
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  who then has to endure genuine racism.
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  I mean, this is part of the problem with the whole extent to which everyone has to tread on eggshells
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  and worry about accidentally triggering tripwires here.
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  The moment you do, it gives actual racists and true bigots ways to say, see,
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  the whole thing is kind of made up.
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  And actually, everyone is on our side.
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  This is just any sensible person would think that black people actually belong outside the UK.
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  This is what we've been saying all along.
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  Do you case for white people like people who believe that are only empowered and emboldened
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  and find sucker when you have these kinds of flare ups that divide reasonable people
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  because all of a sudden it seems like the number of people who are in this argument at all
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  is a significant number.
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  Nobody should be in this argument.
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  Nobody should be even on this terrain.
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  We shouldn't even be talking about any of this.
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  It should be obvious that if you're a person who wears African earrings and an African bead necklace
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  and an African shirt and an African headband
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  and you're bucking and palace chatting to an 83 year old Queen's lady in waiting
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  who is asking you questions presumably to understand your context
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  and is seeking to grasp a greater understanding of why you are there
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  and who you are and what you do,
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  then to take enormous umbrage at the fact that she's obviously inquiring about your background
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  is either a way of just drumming up publicity
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  or of being overly hypersensitive,
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  whatever it is, the consequence is to take us into terrain that we don't want to be playing on.
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  I mean these things, these skin color differences and cultural differences
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  should really be as unimportant as we can possibly make them.
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  I'm not sure that we want as a society to be opening up the panda or as box
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  of constantly thinking about people's race and background and everything
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  when it comes up it can come up.
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  But to insist that it must never come up
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  when you're kind of playing a role in provoking it's coming up
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  because you're wearing African garb,
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  that's so disingenuous as to be essentially poking a tiger that we really
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  should be content to leave sleeping,
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  the tiger of our various identities.
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  I'm not sure it's good to be exacerbating this stuff.
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  So anyway, then Lady Hussie gets fired at the age of 83
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  from her position as one of the ladies of the household.
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  That's the honorary position.
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  She offered her profound apologies for any hurt caused
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  and Gozifalani says that although she didn't experience physical violence
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  she would describe her encounter as, quote, a form of abuse.
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  So is that, are we agreeing on this consensus then that
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  we can't ask each other about our backgrounds?
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  Is that it?
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  I mean, I constantly deal with people miss not misgendering,
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  miss sexuality icing me and assuming that I'm straight and asking me about my wife.
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  Is that a form of abuse? Is that a microaggression?
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  When I was living in America for 12 years,
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  I was constantly misinterpreted as being from Britain,
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  sometimes New Zealand or South Africa.
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  Is that offensive?
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  I mean, I get that there's a context to anti-black racism that is heaps more severe
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  than being mistaken for a Brit when you're actually a Nozzy.
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  I suppose that depends on how much you look down on Brit's.
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  But, you know, the same can't be said of being gay,
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  that is also an oppressed minority historically.
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  I don't believe it is today, but then I don't believe that being black is on the whole
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  of liabilities today, all other things being equal.
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  And yes and yes, I can hear all the people gasping and hoping for the qualifications
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  that I need to add, the throat clearing, the things like saying,
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  of course it's still the case that racism exists and of course it's still the case
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  that there are massive disparities in health, wealth, income and well-being
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  between black people in English, in the anglosphere and white people.
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  But that's different depending on what community you look at.
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  If you look at Nigerian Americans, they're wealthier than white Americans.
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  And that's true for all kinds of different minorities.
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  So you can't say that that is directly the cause of modern day racism.
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  If you held all other things equal, if I were a university educated,
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  well-spoken white person, white male, say,
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  and I had exactly the same manner and education and way of comporting myself
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  and expertise, and I was a woman of color,
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  then do you seriously think that the advantage currently in 2023 goes to the white man
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  if we were, for example, going for a job,
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  or that diversity quotas would give me an advantage if I was a woman of color?
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  Now, of course it's likely a, if I'm a white male,
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  that I come from some privileged cohort clique and have gone to a private school
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  or whatever than if I'm a woman of color.
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  There are these structural things that we have to address as well.
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  But in 2023, I am not actively discriminated against as a gay man
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  and in Gozy-Falani is not actively discriminated against as a woman of color.
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  And to the extent that we are, that's because bigots are being bigots.
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  They should be rightly driven from the public square and sidelined and excluded.
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  But to treat every single person who fails to have gotten the memo on precisely how we,
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  as an upper middle class university educated a lit insist that everyone must speak about identity,
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  to treat all of those people as if they were the same as irredeemable white supremacists or homophobes,
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  is only going to cause problems.
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  Because then irredeemable white supremacists and homophobes think that they have a larger cohort of allies than they actually do.
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  So, I will go to bed wondering what the life story of my Iraqi cab driver truly was.
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  One last thing, it was not last, it's one other thing on this fantastical journey through my interesting week.
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  Demar Hamlin, the footballer who collapsed during an NFL game on Monday,
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  as a result of a cardiac arrest, he literally dropped dead live on TV, Monday night football,
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  horrifying stuff, he was revived on the field.
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  And this has now become, and I keep getting drawn into this, because somehow I miss myocarditis.
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  Speculation has been made, shall we say, by people who believe that vaccine side effects are being downplayed because of big farmer.
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  This is being used as, yet one more incident of probable vaccine injury.
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  So, I just want to address that briefly.
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  There's a condition called commotio cordus, or is it commotio cordus, which occurs when someone gets hit in the chest with serious trauma at a specific time during the heart cycle.
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  Now, it should be noted that more than 100 people die in contact sports every year.
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  I think it was professional contact sports in the United States.
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  I'll have to fact check that and get back to you, but I was reading an article saying,
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  it's actually not that rare that people get smashed in the heart and the heart can't take it.
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  A cardiologist, Carlito Jabri, went on Twitter to explain this.
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  It triggers ventricular fibrillation that causes people to collapse.
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  What happened to Damai Hamlin will have to presumably wait for a further investigation.
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  But what seems to have happened is he stood up for a few seconds, then lost consciousness.
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  That's perfectly consistent with commotio cordus.
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  The loss of consciousness starts about eight seconds after the last heartbeat and circulatory stance still occurs after about 10 to 15 seconds.
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  We don't know the vaccine status of Damai Hamlin, but many people in the anti-vax community, like Charlie Kirk, the right wing young poster boy activist,
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  said things like Hamlin's injury is all too familiar in recent years.
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  People will wake up to the truth about the vaccine.
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  A lot of anti-vaxes on social would just use the syringe emoji to imply that the vaccine was responsible for Hamlin's cardiac situation.
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  But what I loved the most was that there's this scientist, Dr. Paula Cannon, who's a professor of molecular microbiology and immunology and expert in vaccines at the University of Southern California at the Keck School of Medicine.
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  She's quoted in the Rolling Stone piece.
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  I wanted to get her on the show this week, but she said that she doesn't want to kick the hornets nest.
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  She's not a specialist in cardiologists. She's a vaccine expert.
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  But she says she's quoted as saying, why do people look for zebras instead of looking at the fucking big horse that hits him?
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  I love a scientist who just swears to a journalist and they print it.
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  When somebody is tackled in a football game, she says, and then seconds later, keels over, you know that's a big and very vanilla horse that hit him.
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  It's not an exotic endangered spotted leopard.
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  The rarity there that she's referring to is the extreme rarity of severe cardiac consequences from taking the vaccine.
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  The problem is, and I did do a story about this a couple of weeks ago because Karen Phelps, who is a physician and who used to be the head of the Australian Medical Association and a parliamentarian after that.
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  She and her wife both got side effects from the mRNA vaccines.
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  And so they've made a submission to a parliamentary inquiry in Australia into vaccines and into the into COVID into the pandemic and so on.
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  And she's saying we need to have more conversations.
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  The mainstream media has to have more conversations honestly about the side effects of vaccines.
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  So I had her on my radio show and my ABC radio show and I had a leading cardiologist in Sydney who is actually on the you know the anti-vaxxers would like him because he's someone who is excuse me speaking out about the significant increase in pericarditis and myocarditis that he's seeing among young male patients.
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  And he's saying that we should be aware of this. He's saying that if you're a young male, then just take AstraZeneca or Novavax, don't take Pfizer or Moderna because why would you bother with the risk.
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  Nonetheless, he's saying that the cases he sees are very mild. He hasn't seen any a single serious case.
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  You're talking about you know things that don't have any long term consequences by and large where you've got a kind of a mild puffiness essentially of the heart muscle which can be uncomfortable but which generally goes away.
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  And he's still saying that he's saying far more far more disproportionately more from unvaccinated young people who've had COVID.
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  It is 10 times. This is still in his opinion. 10 times.
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  Likelier to get a severe case of heart inflammation from catching COVID than from any of the vaccines.
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  And the reason I'm emphasizing this is because I still every single day I get tweets from people who spend too much time online.
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  And following you know his it now does seem that there are consequences from the mRNA vaccine of getting an inflamed heart, especially if you're a male under the age of 30.
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  But this is not being suppressed. The therapeutic goods administration in Australia, which is the invite the government advisory body that recommends things already said like six months ago in the middle of last year that males under 30 should avoid the
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  the mRNA vaccines and not for a different vaccine. It's not the it's not recommended if you go for months and months and months now if you go to a doctor and you're in that age cohort.
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  They've said don't don't get the mRNA vaccines because of this this you know moderate risk of a very mild condition that you will recover from.
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  That condition does not cause cardiac arrest.
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  Myocarditis does not cause cardiac arrest.
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  It does not fakely weaken your heart and make it more likely that when you get smashed in a football game, you're suddenly going to die of a heart attack.
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  That's not what the cardiologist say that's not the case pericarditis also does not cause cardiac arrest.
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  So Hamilton got CPR on the field. His heartbeat was restored.
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  And this immunologist Paula Cannon at the University of Southern California says that it is frustrating that we're talking about a completely unrelated issue a COVID vaccine when we should be talking about the elephant in the room, which is concussion sports.
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  And how we're still not making this sport safer.
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  So yes, if you're one of the people who keeps banging on about myocarditis because you keep seeing that there are increasing numbers of studies that show that there's a relationship between mRNA vaccines and mild inflammation of the heart.
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  I know I'm aware of that.
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  It doesn't change my opinion about anything that I said when Joe Rogan and I got into an argument about it last January, because what I was saying was that the risk of serious health complications from getting an inflammation anywhere in your body, but specifically the heart.
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  Greater when you catch COVID and with COVID virus causes information all over your body, including in your heart.
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  Then from getting any of the vaccines and that holds true in every age cohort and all of the vaccines, but the point is if you are going to get a vaccine and you should why would you bother getting the mRNA one when it has this elevated risk.
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  Let's do something fun now. Not that this hasn't been fun. I mean, this has been a fucking joy, right? I mean, this is who wants who wants anything else out of their day than hearing me ramble on with my uninformed medical opinions about American footballers and their fate.
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  Nonetheless, there's something even better that I have, which is that someone's died. I mean, that's not better. That's a bad thing for death, but the yields, there's something good that you're about to hear.
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  The gentleman's name is Chris Ledesma and he has died after 34 years of being the head of music on the Simpsons.
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  First of all, can you believe that the Simpsons have been around for 34 years? 1989. They started in the 80s. Is that true?
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  And he's just he retired in May last May 2022. And he was responsible for basically all of the music on all of the episodes of the Simpsons.
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  And if you cast your mind back to all of your favorite episodes of the Simpsons, man, there are a lot. I mean, the music is fantastic.
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  So let's hear some of it. I want to begin with one of my favorite episodes. It's written by Conan O'Brien. He got his start before he got even back in the day, you know, his first version of late night.
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  He was a writer on the Simpsons. That was his first big break. And he wrote an episode in which Springfield gets a monorail. And they get a monorail because a smooth, talking, traveling salesman named Lyle Landley comes to town and manages to sell them on this monorail.
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  He does so with this parody of the music man.
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  No good, sir. I'm on the level. The ring came off my pudding can. Take my pen. I've my good man. I swear it's Springfield's only choice. Throw up your hands and raise your voice.
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  The main street still all cracked and broken. Sorry, mom. The mom is smoking.
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  Model. Don't.
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  Possibly my favorite song from possibly my favorite episode of the Simpsons. One of the other great songs to revisit is when March stars as Blanche Dubois in a musical production of street car named Desire that ended with this important moral.
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  You can always depend on the kindness of strangers to come from the spirits. It should be from dangerous.
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  Now here's a tip from March. You won't require.
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  All strangers just don't pray. You have it there. You have it there.
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  Love it. Not quite as good in my opinion as my favorite music. Well, there are so many favorites. This is one of my many favorites. I still remember this was a moment at which I just realized the Simpsons was doing something completely different than anything I'd ever seen.
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  It's the episode where up who is he's going to lose the quicky-mart. You know, he runs the convenience store. I think he's not going to be able to keep it or something. I don't even remember the premise, but basically he realizes that he'd rather live with the Simpsons than work at the quicky-mart which he has made his professional life. And he sings this song about who needs the quicky-mart.
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  You see, whether Igloo had to lean to or a geodesic dome. There's no structure I have built to which I'd rather call my home.
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  That's okay.
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  But of course it wasn't that simple for up who later that night they see him on the roof.
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  Hey, he's not happy at all. He lied to us through song. I hate when people do that.
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  That may just be the greatest falsetto that I've ever heard in cartoon history. Although apparently up who is cancelled now, so we're not allowed to listen to that anymore.
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  There was also a time that Homer started his own barbershop quartet. Do you remember he starts the barbershop quartet and the only thing that comes to mind to write a song about is the little sticker that goes on the back of his car window that says baby on board.
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  Because he thinks you just look at something and then you figure out a song about it. It can't be that hard to write a song about whatever's right in front of you.
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  So why not write a song about the baby on board sticker.
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  I'm telling you, these things have legs as actual music. That's actually a good song.
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  Like the Planet of the Apes musical starring the failing movie star Troy McClure. Oh God bless Phil Hartman. How funny was he especially as Troy McClure playing the evil ape scientist.
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  And Troy McClure's main number in that musical is stop the Planet of the Apes I want to get off.
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