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The 8 most shocking celebrity coming out stories · Naughty But Nice with Rob Shuter

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Speaker 1: Scrible advice shops. Hello, Hello, Hellollo, Welcome to the Naughty
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Speaker 1: but Night Show. I'm rub Shooter, your host giving you
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Speaker 1: all the celebrity gossip here from New York City. This
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Speaker 1: is a very special show today. My friend Corey Andrew
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Speaker 1: from Instinct Magazine. He's here. Hello Corey. How are you?
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Speaker 1: They Rob? I am well, great to be here, Good
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Speaker 1: to see you. So Corey works at Instinct Magazine, a gay, lesbian,
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Speaker 1: bisexual focused magazine, and Corey did a profile on me.
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Speaker 1: Thank you very much, You're welcomes fine. It was really
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Speaker 1: what surprised you the most? I had to answer questions, Christina,
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Speaker 1: the producer I did Corey interviewed me. It was really
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Speaker 1: weird being on the other end of it. See, well,
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Speaker 1: you know what I thought was the most surprising. It
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Speaker 1: was actually, um that you really are nice. Oh I'm
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Speaker 1: not right, and then don't tell anyone you're really the
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Speaker 1: real deal. What's that I hear? It's the chimes of
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Speaker 1: Big Ben, which means only one thing around here. It
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Speaker 1: means that it's tea time. And so because we have
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Speaker 1: Corey here today, we're doing a special show. This is
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Speaker 1: the most shocking celebrity coming out stories of all time.
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Speaker 1: So l g B t Q visibility, it's increased enormous
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Speaker 1: amount over the past few years, but pushing forward and
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Speaker 1: having celebrities come out is still vitally important, many of
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Speaker 1: which have done. So we've got our top celebrities today
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Speaker 1: just for you. Okay, So Melissa Etherage and now as
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Speaker 1: he's a rock star, of course, she came out during
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Speaker 1: the Triangle Ball and that's significant because it was the
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Speaker 1: first ball ever for the l g B t Q
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Speaker 1: under an inauguration for a president, and the president was
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Speaker 1: Bill Clinton, so that was really really significant. I really
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Speaker 1: remember at the time, so it's easy now to think
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Speaker 1: how how simple this was. She came out pretty much
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Speaker 1: before anybody else. Three was still really what It was
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Speaker 1: very tricky and potentially you could lose your career. Was
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Speaker 1: there an impact on her or did she do No,
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Speaker 1: she was fine because there was not really Um she
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Speaker 1: wasn't a pop star so to speak. She was a rocker,
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Speaker 1: so rockers rebellious anyway, So Melissa was like, I'm going
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Speaker 1: to do this and we're good. So she just kind
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Speaker 1: of went up there and basically when she went to
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Speaker 1: the awards the Triangle Ball, she said you know, looking back,
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Speaker 1: I didn't even think I was going to come out there.
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Speaker 1: I was like, gee, I'm really just excited to be here,
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Speaker 1: and I'm really proud to have been a lesbian all
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Speaker 1: my life. And a big cheer went up, and then
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Speaker 1: she says, like Katie Lang came out and gave her
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Speaker 1: a hug, and she said she walked back to her seat,
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Speaker 1: and her friend said, I think you just came out.
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Speaker 1: So this wasn't planned. Like now, when celebrities come out
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Speaker 1: on the cover of US Weekly or People magazine, publicists
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Speaker 1: and agents and managers are all together in a room planning.
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Speaker 1: It's sort of like launching a shuttle, right, there's a
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Speaker 1: lot of work. When Melissa came out, she just got up.
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Speaker 1: Girls have a good day by Boom. And next celebrity
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Speaker 1: that shocked the world when he came out is George
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Speaker 1: Michael in nine. This is a little bit of a
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Speaker 1: more sad and complicated story. George had been caught performing
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Speaker 1: a lewd act in a public restroom in l A.
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Speaker 1: It blew up the world at the time. I remember
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Speaker 1: watching this on TV. It was scandalous that this had happened.
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Speaker 1: Then George Michael sat down with CNN to talk about
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Speaker 1: the incident, and while he was doing that interview, he
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Speaker 1: came out of the closet saying, I have not been
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Speaker 1: in a relationship with a woman for the past ten years. Later,
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Speaker 1: George Michael actually spoofed the incident in a music video
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Speaker 1: for his single Outside. So George was sort of forced that.
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Speaker 1: I think, had that incident in the bathroom not have happened,
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure he would have come out at that moment.
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Speaker 1: What do you think, Corey, I don't think so either.
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Speaker 1: And also I don't recall him ever really being with
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Speaker 1: a woman, so that's peculiar too. I mean, I was
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Speaker 1: a big fan. I don't recall any time there was
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Speaker 1: a story with him dating a woman, So I think
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Speaker 1: also that is just sort of a bit of a veil, right.
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Speaker 1: But I think at the time, and remember it was
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Speaker 1: so it was after Melissa, but it still was before
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Speaker 1: we had a lot of people coming out. It still
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Speaker 1: was sort of news world, and he is today. I
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Speaker 1: guess when you come out, it's not quite a shocking maybe,
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Speaker 1: but it was a massive, massive moment I should say
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Speaker 1: to George has been was now he's no longer with us,
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Speaker 1: But George was very private for somebody as famous as
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Speaker 1: he was he is, he kept his private life private.
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Speaker 1: Do you think it was a good idea of him
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Speaker 1: to spoof this and make fun of the act in
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Speaker 1: a video. No, because actually no, he had a big
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Speaker 1: lawsuit with Sony if you recall, because he claimed they
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Speaker 1: were explored in him and he was being sort of
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Speaker 1: used as like a commodity. And then so the ironic
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Speaker 1: thing is in later on to spoof himself as a
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Speaker 1: commodity just looked like he was trying to save face.
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Speaker 1: I don't think it was the best thing from an
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Speaker 1: integrity standpoint. But I love George Michael. I will always
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Speaker 1: be a fan music forever. So one of the Pikes
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Speaker 1: two thousand eight. Now I love one dislike she's comedian actress.
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Speaker 1: You guys know where she doesn't. You know, she's just
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Speaker 1: out there. She's awesome now. And November two thousand and eight,
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Speaker 1: while speaking at an anti Prop eight rally in Las Vegas,
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Speaker 1: Sikes said, I got married on October. I don't really
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Speaker 1: talk about my sexual orientation. I felt like I was
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Speaker 1: living my life. I wasn't in the closet. I was
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Speaker 1: just living my life. Now, everybody knows me personally, they
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Speaker 1: know I'm gay, and that's the way people should be
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Speaker 1: able to live their lives. Really like, we shouldn't have
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Speaker 1: to walk around and be standing out there demanding something
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Speaker 1: we automatically should have as a citizen of this country.
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Speaker 1: Fascinating one. I think so interesting about this, and this
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Speaker 1: has been my experience with celebrities coming out. They're in
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Speaker 1: a circle always yeah, So it's not that they're hiding
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Speaker 1: that side of themselves to everybody that their friends, their
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Speaker 1: family often no Melissa Melissa Efforts, who we spoke about
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Speaker 1: when she came out, we all sort of knew and
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Speaker 1: her friends new. I think the same with with with
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Speaker 1: Wonder people knew but the public hadn't. Do you think,
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Speaker 1: as an expert in this, you have to put the
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Speaker 1: flag in the ground. If you're a big star, even
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Speaker 1: though your family know, your friends know, do you still
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Speaker 1: have to stand up and say, hey, world, I'm coming out.
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Speaker 1: Is so deeply personal and it can impact so many
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Speaker 1: areas of your life, from your finances to your just
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Speaker 1: your your livelihood in general, your social aspects. So I
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Speaker 1: think it's a personal choice. I don't believe in people
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Speaker 1: who are closeted and also being detrimental to the to
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Speaker 1: the community. But I get that it's personal and you
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Speaker 1: can't really blame someone for not coming out. And reminds
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Speaker 1: me of Jody Foster. You know. She came out and
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Speaker 1: she was like, I've never been in, but that's all
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Speaker 1: I can say. Now you are now, But she was
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Speaker 1: never in to begin with. So it's like it depends.
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Speaker 1: It's very personal. Lands Bass came out from end Sync
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Speaker 1: in two thousand and six. He came out on the
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Speaker 1: cover of People magazine. There've been a ton of rumors
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Speaker 1: about Lands and finally he decided it was the moment
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Speaker 1: to come out. In July two thousand and six, it
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Speaker 1: was past end sync's glory days, so the group was
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Speaker 1: no longer the biggest group in the world. However, he
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Speaker 1: still was a big star, and he said when asked,
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Speaker 1: why did you decide to come out now, he said,
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Speaker 1: the main reason I wanted to speak my mind was
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Speaker 1: that the rumors really was starting to affect my daily life.
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Speaker 1: I'm at peace with my family and friends, myself and God,
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Speaker 1: and so that's why he came out. It's interesting he's
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Speaker 1: reflecting what we just said. People's friends and family, they
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Speaker 1: always know, it's that decision to go public, and you
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Speaker 1: can never decide in somebody's career or life when that
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Speaker 1: moment is. But Lance decided to come out in two
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Speaker 1: thousand and six. My reporting indicates that everybody in the Bandoo,
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Speaker 1: they were all cool about it. Justin lou They hung
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Speaker 1: out with each other during those those years when they
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Speaker 1: were growing up. They all knew about Lance. What do
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Speaker 1: you think about when Lance came out? It makes perfect sense.
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Speaker 1: You know, he was a kid too in that group,
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Speaker 1: so you're still trying to figure things out when you're
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Speaker 1: young and you're part of this big joggernaut of like
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Speaker 1: a corporate owned record LA more commodity. So yeah, he
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Speaker 1: did it right. Thing well, I guess, keeping in that
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Speaker 1: whole boy band theme. Jonathan Knight from New Kids on
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Speaker 1: the Block in two thousand and eleven. Now he was
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Speaker 1: outed by fellow eighties team pop star Tiffany in January.
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Speaker 1: We have to do this one. So I love Tiffany.
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Speaker 1: I think, yes, I love to be on Debbie Gibson.
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Speaker 1: I was team Tiffany because she reminded me of Pat Benatar,
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Speaker 1: So that voice, I think I was Debbie Gibson. But
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Speaker 1: we're off the point, um, Tiffany did an interview and
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Speaker 1: she don't think she did it to be me, And
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Speaker 1: I don't know. When I look at what she said,
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Speaker 1: it's a little I mean, you know, it was a
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Speaker 1: little shady. So basically, in two thousand and eleven, she
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Speaker 1: revealed that she had dated at Night. But then she
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Speaker 1: put in quotes like before he became gay, now she
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Speaker 1: knew good and well, nobody knew that information. So why
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Speaker 1: would she do that in an open interview in two
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Speaker 1: thousand and eleven without knowing if he had come out yet.
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Speaker 1: But in response, Night posted a message on his own
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Speaker 1: website and he said, I have never been outed by
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Speaker 1: anyone but myself. I did so almost twenty years ago.
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Speaker 1: I never know that I would have to do it
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Speaker 1: all over again publicly, just because I had renained it
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Speaker 1: with in Ko t B, which was the acronym for
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Speaker 1: new kids, of course. And I have lived my life
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Speaker 1: very openly and have never hidden the fact that I
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Speaker 1: am gay. He was mad with Tiffany, you know, he
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Speaker 1: called her up and was like, girl, oh he phoned up.
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Speaker 1: I am told my sources, tell me they're fine now,
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Speaker 1: and that that their friends. Now. I think they did
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Speaker 1: some sort of reunion to as well. But it's interesting
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Speaker 1: Jonathan is once again going back to what we were saying,
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Speaker 1: which is a lot of select what is do not
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Speaker 1: think it is your business for them to come out.
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Speaker 1: If their friends know and their family knows, they think
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Speaker 1: they're out. It's very interesting. I don't think I'll ever
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Speaker 1: have that occasion. I'm not a celebrity, I'm not famous.
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Speaker 1: So after I've told my mom and dad and my
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Speaker 1: family knew I was day, I didn't realize I had
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Speaker 1: to repress New York Times. If I did, they wouldn't
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Speaker 1: have wanted it. But Jonathan fighting back there against Tiffany
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Speaker 1: Zachary Quinto. That's right from Star Trek came out in
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Speaker 1: two thousand and eleven, much more recent, so there are
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Speaker 1: a lot of rumors about him. He did a profile
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Speaker 1: with New York Magazine and that's when he came out.
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Speaker 1: He said that after the death of a close friend,
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Speaker 1: he realized he had to come out publicly. He was
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Speaker 1: in a blockbuster around this time, doesn't get much bigger
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Speaker 1: than Star Trek, and so he felt at that point
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Speaker 1: he had reached the level fame where he did need
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Speaker 1: to issue a statement. I like him a lot, and
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Speaker 1: he does a lot for the gay community. I'm thrilled
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Speaker 1: that he is out and living his best life. Now,
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Speaker 1: this is my girl who I love. Miss Ellen DeGeneres.
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Speaker 1: She had she had to be. I mean, she's like
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Speaker 1: really iconic in that regard. The Generous came out on
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Speaker 1: her show, both in real life as well, and so
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Speaker 1: on her TV sitcom Ellen Now. It was called the
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Speaker 1: Puppy Episode which aired April, and it included Oprah Wemfrey,
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Speaker 1: Demi Moore, Billy, Bob Floor and Honey and Laura Dern
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Speaker 1: as Ellen's love interest. Like everybody was in that episode,
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Speaker 1: but me and de Generous is first. You know, she
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Speaker 1: was the first character out lesbian character in a leading
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Speaker 1: role and that's a prime time time slot, so that's
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Speaker 1: really really significant. The visibility, if it was massive. I
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Speaker 1: I looked this up and over forty million Americans tuned
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Speaker 1: in to see Ellen coming out. There was a backlash
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Speaker 1: so after Ellen came shortly afterwards her TV show This
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Speaker 1: is not her talk show, This is her sitcom, it
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Speaker 1: was canceled and then Ellen said she was in the
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Speaker 1: wilderness for a while. She didn't work, and then they
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Speaker 1: took a chance on Ellen with a TV show that
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Speaker 1: people at the time this is hard to believe now,
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Speaker 1: but a lot of executives the public, we weren't sure
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Speaker 1: if it would be a hit. We didn't think should
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Speaker 1: be the next Oprah. We just didn't really know. So
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Speaker 1: they gave Ellen a chance, and the people that worked
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Speaker 1: on the show had very short contracts because they didn't
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Speaker 1: think it would be around that long. Fifteen, sixteen, seventeen
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Speaker 1: years later, the show is a staple of Daytime. It's
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Speaker 1: getting bigger and bigger every year. I think I think
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Speaker 1: Ellen has probably done more, my opinion, for the gay
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Speaker 1: community than any celebrity I can I can think of.
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Speaker 1: She's got to be up there in the top five. No,
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Speaker 1: I agree totally. And I tell you it's funny. When
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Speaker 1: that show Daytime Talk Show got green lighted and and
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Speaker 1: he read about it, I was always confident, and I
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Speaker 1: will tell you I followed it. I do stand up,
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Speaker 1: as some may now, and I have always followed Ellen
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Speaker 1: as before the TV success as a brilliant stand up comedian,
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Speaker 1: and that's so her her Daytime talk show encompasses there.
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Speaker 1: And I knew that she'd be really great in that environment.
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Speaker 1: And I'm just saying I predicted her. You are a
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Speaker 1: good guy for that. I've been to the show. I've
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Speaker 1: not been on it, but I've been backstage many times.
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Speaker 1: It's one of the nicest shows you can go to.
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Speaker 1: It is organized beautifully. They treat the guests with respect,
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Speaker 1: they treat their audience with respect. It is pure class. Ellen,
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Speaker 1: we tip our hat. And now a number one celebrity
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Speaker 1: that came out the most shocking, maybe the most influential.
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Speaker 1: I think we've found somebody that maybe just slightly tops Ellen,
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Speaker 1: and it's Elton John. Let me tell you why. He
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Speaker 1: came out in nineteen seventies six. So that entire list
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Speaker 1: we've just done, nobody came out before Elton John. He
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Speaker 1: was in the wilderness by himself for a very long time.
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Speaker 1: He did an interview with Rolling Stone magazine and that's
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Speaker 1: when he came out. He he said he was bisexual
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Speaker 1: at the time, so he was tiptoeing into the water.
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Speaker 1: But at this point, I remember I was growing up.
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Speaker 1: I was a very I was just I was born
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Speaker 1: in seventy three, so it's only three years old. But
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Speaker 1: he was always there. There was always a gay celebrity
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Speaker 1: in my life because of what Elton did in nineteen
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Speaker 1: seventies six. Also, too, we should point out Elton has
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Speaker 1: raised tens of millions of dollars for people with HIV
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Speaker 1: and AIDS through his charities. He's at the forefront of
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Speaker 1: our community, and I have to thank you for it.
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Speaker 1: Where are you on, Elton Corey Love. So it's interesting
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Speaker 1: you bring that up because and I'm glad you you
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Speaker 1: said that, because that's a really positive caveat there, because
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Speaker 1: he has been scrutinized lately negatively because of these bizarre
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Speaker 1: sort of performances he's done, like at rush Limba's wedding,
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Speaker 1: which was a little strange the country. You're right, and
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Speaker 1: seemingly defending Eminem who has like a homophobic lyrics. So look,
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Speaker 1: I get it. On one hand, of course he's an
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Speaker 1: icon and he's done stuff with the community, but the
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Speaker 1: gay community is also going Mike Elton were confused, right
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Speaker 1: it is? You are right, and I'm glad you pointed
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Speaker 1: it out. Nobody in life is a hero or a villain.
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Speaker 1: We're all sort of shades of gray here. I would argue,
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Speaker 1: though the work he's done, the support is showing the brave,
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Speaker 1: the courage he has outweighs that Elton John, you're the
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Speaker 1: top of our list. We're going to take a quick break,
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Speaker 1: but when we come back, we've got a Naughtiest and
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Speaker 1: the nicest of the day. Welcome back to the naught
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Speaker 1: even I shall I'm rub shooted with my friend Corey
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Speaker 1: Andrew from Instinct magazine and we have the nicest of
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Speaker 1: the day. So Laura Dern, who was like a really
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Speaker 1: big pop culture icon once again, I mean, I've always
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Speaker 1: loved her and she's been a big icon. Um, so
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Speaker 1: she needed a full security detail after starting on the
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Speaker 1: Ellen Degenera show when that coming out at episode, which
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Speaker 1: just shows you how far we've come, or maybe not um,
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Speaker 1: but durn was a guest you know on the show
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Speaker 1: and she she played as a lesbian who helps Ellen
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Speaker 1: dejen who helps Ellen de generous character realized that she's
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Speaker 1: also gay, and she says she first received calls from
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Speaker 1: a couple of her advisors in Hollywood who were out
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Speaker 1: gay men, and they told her do not do the show.
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Speaker 1: To do the show, she played Ellen's lover us on
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Speaker 1: the show, and they were like, don't do this. Path.
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Speaker 1: They really were concerned about her, and for good reason,
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Speaker 1: because you know, it's like she talked about the first
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Speaker 1: time she became aware of like how serious it was.
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Speaker 1: She says, she and Oprah we're having a snack. I
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Speaker 1: was was it weight Watchers wasn't. And then and suddenly
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Speaker 1: there's a flood of cops who swarmed the set and
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Speaker 1: the stage while they were rehearsing, and they're like, hey,
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Speaker 1: there's been a bomb threat. We're sweeping the stage and
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Speaker 1: they were like rushing us off the stage during recalls.
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Speaker 1: And um, you know, the episode went on to win
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Speaker 1: a Peabody Award and an Emmy Award, and it's a
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Speaker 1: very iconic episode and monumental for the gay community. Um
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Speaker 1: but but Durn says she lost a lot of work.
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Speaker 1: It's amazing afterwards she didn't get she couldn't get hired.
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Speaker 1: Jurassic Park at the time, the most successful movie of
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Speaker 1: all time. This was before the Avatar and the title
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Speaker 1: and she said she couldn't get work after that because
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Speaker 1: of the Ellen episode. And this is why you're the
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Speaker 1: nicest of the day, Laura Durn. She said she wouldn't
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Speaker 1: change anything. It's yes, she does say despite the backlash,
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Speaker 1: she said that you know, she went on and it
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Speaker 1: was the greatest role of her career, she felt because
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Speaker 1: it was like an incredible honor, and she says, Ellen
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Speaker 1: looked at her and she was quivering, and you know,
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Speaker 1: it was a great episode of the Nicest of the
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Speaker 1: Day and now and Naughtiest of the Day. Kurt Cameron's
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Speaker 1: The Naughtiest the Day, the star of the eighties sitcom
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Speaker 1: Growing Pains, He appeared on PS Morgan tonight remember when
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Speaker 1: PS was on CNN in two thousand and twelve, and
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Speaker 1: shared his belief that homosexuality is quote a natural, detrimental
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Speaker 1: and ultimately destructive to so many of the foundations of civilization.
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Speaker 1: You can have your views, you can share your views,
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Speaker 1: but we can also make you and naughtiest of the day.
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Speaker 1: And that's time for a moment of rob So normally
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Speaker 1: here in the show, Corey, we give an inspirational quote,
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Speaker 1: maybe from me, maybe from somebody else. We looked up
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Speaker 1: some quotes that would summarize today's very special show, and
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Speaker 1: we found Lynn Manuel Miranda, the creator of Hamilton's, had
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Speaker 1: probably the best one. He said the following quote that
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Speaker 1: nothing here is promised, not one day. And love is
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Speaker 1: love is love is love is love is love is
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Speaker 1: love is love is Love cannot be killed or swept aside.
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