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- 0:03Speaker 1: From The Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm Kristan Amiot.
- 0:06Speaker 1: It's Monday, October sixth, twenty twenty five. The clock is
- 0:13Speaker 1: ticking on a Middle East peace deal proposed by US
- 0:15Speaker 1: President Donald Trump. HAMAS is split on whether to agree
- 0:19Speaker 1: to the plan, which would require the militant group to
- 0:22Speaker 1: fully disarm, destroy its weapons, and leave Gaza for good.
- 0:26Speaker 1: Talks between HAMAS and the United States will take place
- 0:29Speaker 1: in Egypt on Monday, while Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netnyahu
- 0:34Speaker 1: said he hopes all remaining hostages held in Gaza will
- 0:37Speaker 1: be returned in the coming days. Support for Pauline Hansen's
- 0:44Speaker 1: One Nation Party has almost doubled since the federal election
- 0:47Speaker 1: in May, while care support for the coalition is lingering
- 0:51Speaker 1: at record lows. That's according to new data from Newspoll,
- 0:54Speaker 1: which also says the Albanese Labour government has recorded its
- 0:58Speaker 1: strongest primary vote in more than two years. You can
- 1:02Speaker 1: read our experts analysis right now at the Australian dot
- 1:04Speaker 1: com dot au. Japan will usher in its newest prime
- 1:11Speaker 1: minister in as many years in a matter of weeks.
- 1:14Speaker 1: The question is can Sanai Takeichi the first woman to
- 1:18Speaker 1: be elevated to the top job. Hang on to it.
- 1:21Speaker 1: That's today's episode. She was so firm and uncompromising in
- 1:32Speaker 1: her politics they called her the Iron Lady. Margaret Thatcher
- 1:36Speaker 1: was the longest serving British Prime Minister of the twentieth
- 1:38Speaker 1: century and the first woman to hold the position.
- 1:42Speaker 2: It is our purpose to return the power and influence
- 1:48Speaker 2: of this House are not to denude it of many
- 1:51Speaker 2: of the powers.
- 1:53Speaker 1: The conservative ideology that drove her policies and also her
- 1:56Speaker 1: unique style came to be known as Thatcherism, and the
- 2:00Speaker 1: people who subscribe to it were dubbed Thatcher Rights. It's
- 2:04Speaker 1: a label. Sixty four year old Tona Takaichi bears proudly
- 2:10Speaker 1: a longtime admirer of Thatcher's. Takaiji is the first woman
- 2:14Speaker 1: to be elected to lead Japan's conservative Liberal Democratic Party,
- 2:18Speaker 1: clearing the way for her to become the country's new
- 2:21Speaker 1: Prime minister in a matter of weeks.
- 2:27Speaker 2: She's very much modeled herself as an inheritor of the
- 2:31Speaker 2: shinto Abe political tradition in Japan.
- 2:35Speaker 1: Will Glasgow is The Australian's North Asia correspondent.
- 2:40Speaker 2: And she's very much a conservative. She's from that Abe
- 2:43Speaker 2: wing of the ruling Liberal Democratic Party, But while she's
- 2:48Speaker 2: got a lot of the same political instincts or conservative
- 2:51Speaker 2: positions as Abe, she's not got anything like the track
- 2:55Speaker 2: record of electoral success that Abe has had. Now she's
- 2:59Speaker 2: won this part vote, but there's really a lot of
- 3:02Speaker 2: questions about will she actually get very far in prosecuting
- 3:07Speaker 2: that case to return to the Abe legacy.
- 3:13Speaker 1: Japan's Liberal Democratic Party has governed almost continuously since its
- 3:17Speaker 1: inception in the nineteen fifties. It oversaw Japan's recovery following
- 3:22Speaker 1: World War II, turning it into an economic superpower and
- 3:26Speaker 1: developing a pro America foreign policy. Sanai Takeichi is the
- 3:31Speaker 1: second party leader to be elected in the space of
- 3:33Speaker 1: a year.
- 3:35Speaker 3: Prime Minister Shigeru Ishiba has moments ago said he is resigning.
- 3:40Speaker 3: The decision to step down comes as Issuba works to
- 3:43Speaker 3: avoid a split within the ruling Liberal Democratic Party, the LDPS.
- 3:47Speaker 2: By the time he steps down, there will be five
- 3:49Speaker 2: former prime ministers from the LDP in the party room
- 3:53Speaker 2: when they gather five former and then this new prime minister,
- 3:57Speaker 2: So the churn has returned. So you've had a very
- 4:00Speaker 2: turbulent period within the LDP as the factions jostle with
- 4:05Speaker 2: one another for who should lead, with no one since
- 4:09Speaker 2: Abe resigned and he was later horrendously assassinated in twenty
- 4:14Speaker 2: twenty two. But since then, there's just been no one
- 4:16Speaker 2: who's been able to assert dominance over Japanese politics in
- 4:21Speaker 2: anything like that way, and look like they had a
- 4:23Speaker 2: firm grip on power. They've always been undermined by some
- 4:27Speaker 2: other faction within the party, and at every single election
- 4:31Speaker 2: since he stood down, they've performed poorly. So look in
- 4:36Speaker 2: her victory speech after winning the leadership contests on Saturday night,
- 4:41Speaker 2: she was very frank that the party's facing a very
- 4:44Speaker 2: difficult outlook. She said, rather than feeling happy now, I
- 4:48Speaker 2: feel the future is truly difficult, and really every analyst
- 4:52Speaker 2: of Japanese politics, all her party members would agree with that.
- 4:57Speaker 2: Her next challenge is to secure so poured from other
- 5:02Speaker 2: minor parties in the Japanese political system. She doesn't need
- 5:05Speaker 2: that to become the prime minister. She just needs the
- 5:08Speaker 2: most votes when the Japanese Parliament, the Diet meets most
- 5:12Speaker 2: likely in the next fortnight, but it's still to be
- 5:14Speaker 2: confirmed by the time we're talking. But then to pass
- 5:17Speaker 2: any legislation her LDP party is going to need the
- 5:21Speaker 2: support of minor parties in the Japanese system, and the
- 5:26Speaker 2: LDP's natural coalition partner, it's a much more moderate political party,
- 5:32Speaker 2: and Takashi was by far the least popular amongst that
- 5:38Speaker 2: minor party. So even the existing coalition agreement that the
- 5:42Speaker 2: LDP has, or coalition arrangement at least, even that's looking uncertain.
- 5:47Speaker 2: But then those two parties together don't now have enough
- 5:51Speaker 2: votes in the lower House, and that's where things get
- 5:53Speaker 2: really complicated for her and really complicated for Japanese politics.
- 5:59Speaker 2: It's an unusual state of affairs where so many of
- 6:02Speaker 2: the minor parties are in play and could potentially be
- 6:06Speaker 2: crucial to passing in any legislation. And it's why as
- 6:10Speaker 2: she's just won this party vote and is on the
- 6:13Speaker 2: cusp of making history as Japan's first female prime minister,
- 6:18Speaker 2: there are questions about how long is she going to
- 6:20Speaker 2: last in both of those roles.
- 6:23Speaker 1: So Ken Senai Takeichi right the ship.
- 6:27Speaker 2: Look, she's on me the conservative side of the Liberal
- 6:31Speaker 2: Democratic Party. There are much more conservative or hardline or nationalists,
- 6:36Speaker 2: and so the pitch that Takashi and her supporters have
- 6:40Speaker 2: made is that she's going to be able to bring
- 6:44Speaker 2: some of those voters who have drifted away from the
- 6:46Speaker 2: LDP towards these upstart parties. She's going to be able
- 6:50Speaker 2: to bring quite a few of them back, and it's
- 6:53Speaker 2: over to her to prove that. The flip is though
- 6:56Speaker 2: she lost to rivals who have much more appeal amongst
- 6:59Speaker 2: your hands, big cities and amongst Japan's younger voters, and
- 7:02Speaker 2: that's where all the polling shows she really struggles. So
- 7:07Speaker 2: there is no perfect candidate for the LDP who can
- 7:11Speaker 2: straddle both those worlds. They've tacked to her and perhaps
- 7:15Speaker 2: she's going to be able to arrest that decline and
- 7:18Speaker 2: votes from the right of the party and bring people
- 7:20Speaker 2: back in. But the danger for them is that she
- 7:24Speaker 2: loses more from the party's left amongst its moderate voters,
- 7:27Speaker 2: So you know, that's a real challenge she's got. And look, finally,
- 7:31Speaker 2: a key thing to note about her is in this
- 7:34Speaker 2: leadership tilled she spoke often quite vaguely on a lot
- 7:39Speaker 2: of topics, so on a whole bunch of policy issues.
- 7:42Speaker 2: It's just really unclear as a prime minister how she
- 7:46Speaker 2: going to behave compared to we know where she's been
- 7:49Speaker 2: as someone who's been free of that office, but it's
- 7:52Speaker 2: quite a different thing once she's the Japanese Prime minister
- 7:55Speaker 2: as to where she's going to land on a lot
- 7:56Speaker 2: of these things.
- 8:00Speaker 1: Takaichi is described as a China Hawk. Of course, Australia
- 8:03Speaker 1: is concerned about China's growing military might end its apparent
- 8:07Speaker 1: objectives in the Pacific. How is her election as party
- 8:11Speaker 1: leader and probable prime minister likely to influence that dynamic.
- 8:15Speaker 2: She's long been a hardliner or maybe you call her
- 8:18Speaker 2: a China hawk on relations with Beijing. Again during the campaign,
- 8:23Speaker 2: though she's spoke much more moderately about China. So even
- 8:27Speaker 2: in her foreign policy positions, where she's often been quite
- 8:32Speaker 2: loud and consistent up until this leadership contest, even there,
- 8:36Speaker 2: it's not quite clear how much of those positions she's
- 8:40Speaker 2: well known for in Japanese public life, how much of
- 8:42Speaker 2: those are going to endure in office. And I guess
- 8:45Speaker 2: one of the things a lot of people are watching
- 8:47Speaker 2: for clues on that are who is she going to
- 8:49Speaker 2: put into key posts. So we just have to wait
- 8:52Speaker 2: and see on that, and again it'll give us an
- 8:54Speaker 2: indicator into how she's going to behave Now some of
- 8:57Speaker 2: these questions, we won't be left asking for long. She's
- 9:00Speaker 2: going to be most likely becoming Japan's Prime minister just
- 9:04Speaker 2: before summit season, so she's expected to be at the
- 9:09Speaker 2: Asian Leaders Meeting towards the end of October that's in Malaysia,
- 9:13Speaker 2: and then right after that she's expected to host Donald Trump,
- 9:17Speaker 2: the American President, in Tokyo, just before they both go
- 9:22Speaker 2: to APEC, which is going to be in South Korea
- 9:25Speaker 2: on the last day of October, and then on too
- 9:27Speaker 2: November first, So she's going to meet at least on
- 9:31Speaker 2: the sidelines. We don't know if you'll have a formal
- 9:33Speaker 2: bilateral meeting, but she'll meet China's leader, Shijinping. So how
- 9:38Speaker 2: that meeting with she goes, how she behaves in the
- 9:42Speaker 2: meeting with Trump, how she goes with other regional leaders.
- 9:45Speaker 2: All of those questions are going to be answered very
- 9:47Speaker 2: soon by her on the global stage with all of
- 9:50Speaker 2: us watching. Coming up.
- 9:56Speaker 1: What the elevation of Sinai Takaichi means for Australia. In August,
- 10:16Speaker 1: Australia awarded a lucrative military contract to Japanese shipbuilder Mitsubishi
- 10:21Speaker 1: Heavy Industries. Well, Japan has won a fierce battle to
- 10:24Speaker 1: build a new fleet of Australian warships, winning a ten
- 10:27Speaker 1: billion dollar contract with the Albanese government. Add to that
- 10:31Speaker 1: a commitment to train Japanese troops alongside Australians and Americans
- 10:35Speaker 1: in the top end, and you've got the makings of
- 10:37Speaker 1: a strong geostrategic relationship. Just lastly, Will You wrote for
- 10:43Speaker 1: The Australian that this is Anthony Albanese's third Japanese counterpart
- 10:47Speaker 1: since he was elected as Prime Minister in twenty twenty two,
- 10:50Speaker 1: and that of course begs the question of what Sana
- 10:52Speaker 1: Takachi means for Australia's bilateral relationship with Japan.
- 10:57Speaker 2: History shows us that the Australian Japan relationship has been
- 11:01Speaker 2: able to not only endure, but actually strengthened despite a
- 11:07Speaker 2: lot of political instability. So in the Abe era, actually
- 11:12Speaker 2: Canberra was the source of instability, you know Shinzo Abe
- 11:15Speaker 2: when he was first elected. Julia Gillard was Australia's Prime
- 11:18Speaker 2: minister for a couple of months before Kevin Rudd returned
- 11:22Speaker 2: for a couple of months before Tony Abbott was elected
- 11:24Speaker 2: for a few years before Malcolm Turnbull came into power.
- 11:28Speaker 2: For a couple more years before Scott Morrison did so.
- 11:32Speaker 2: All through that though, Japan and Australia really improved and
- 11:37Speaker 2: more closely aligned their strategic relationship, working much more on
- 11:41Speaker 2: shared foreign policy and security goals. What really united them
- 11:46Speaker 2: was to share concern about Beijing, about the increased capabilities
- 11:51Speaker 2: of the People's Liberation Army and it's more assertive behavior
- 11:55Speaker 2: in the region. Now in the first Trump era, Washington's
- 12:00Speaker 2: unreliability also became a shared concern between Tokyo and Canberra.
- 12:05Speaker 2: And of course it is again so the strategic alignment
- 12:10Speaker 2: that brings the two countries together. If anything, it's only
- 12:13Speaker 2: intensified since then. So I think that, however long this
- 12:17Speaker 2: next Japanese Prime minister last, I think that the relationship
- 12:22Speaker 2: between Australia and Japan is just so strategically important, it's
- 12:28Speaker 2: also economically important. I mean, Japan is Australia's second biggest
- 12:31Speaker 2: economic market. All that said, though, it's not a new
- 12:35Speaker 2: thing that we've got short term Japanese prime ministers, and
- 12:39Speaker 2: that they're revolving within the LDP itself, going from one
- 12:43Speaker 2: faction to another. A concerning thing for Australia is that
- 12:48Speaker 2: the LDP's electoral popularity has fallen so much that there
- 12:53Speaker 2: are questions about is that pattern going to endure? You know,
- 12:57Speaker 2: if the LDP actually lost government an opposition came in,
- 13:02Speaker 2: then the band of foreign policy positions really grows, and
- 13:05Speaker 2: it's not clear that Australia Japanese alignment would be quite
- 13:09Speaker 2: so comfortable and natural as it has been throughout the
- 13:13Speaker 2: LDP period. And the worst case scenario for Australia is
- 13:17Speaker 2: that this is an unsuccessful prime ministership that even worsens
- 13:22Speaker 2: the party's position within the Japanese electorate to such a
- 13:25Speaker 2: point that the Japanese public goes for quite a different
- 13:29Speaker 2: sort of a medley of other parties, and that they
- 13:33Speaker 2: throw up some foreign policy positions that make that Australia
- 13:37Speaker 2: Japan relationship much less clear or makes working together much harder.
- 13:51Speaker 1: Well Glasgow is The Australian's North Asia correspondent. You can
- 13:54Speaker 1: read all his reporting and analysis right now at the
- 13:56Speaker 1: Australian dot com dot au