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The Next Round: Roman Harper on Alabama Football, Tennessee Rivalry & SEC Predictions · The Next Round

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  Speaker 1: Jim Dunaway, Lance Taylor, Ryan Brown, live. The next round
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  Speaker 1: is on now. As you would imagine, we will get
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  Speaker 1: to a ton of college football today coming up, including
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  Speaker 1: massive injury reports that came out in college football yesterday
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  Speaker 1: with impactful players everywhere. We've got a big NFL game tonight,
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  Speaker 1: Seahawks and Broncos we'll jump into. In the city we
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  Speaker 1: live in, UAB plays a football game on a Thursday
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  Speaker 1: night on national TV tonight. We'll talk about that. But
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  Speaker 1: it occasionally dawns on me because of the way we
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  Speaker 1: do this show now for almost 18 years that people
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  Speaker 1: are still, I guess we're such, we set the bar
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  Speaker 1: so low on this show that that people are always
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  Speaker 1: amazed that we occasionally are okay broadcasters. Again, we set
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  Speaker 1: the bar so low here for four hours a day
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  Speaker 1: that when we jump on to do an exhibition basketball
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  Speaker 1: game on YouTube last night, people are like, hey, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you guys are pretty good. I got a lot of
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  Speaker 1: good feedback. That was the feedback I got last night.
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  Speaker 1: For those that missed it, we called the Auburn-Florida State game,
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  Speaker 1: and they were like.
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  Speaker 2: You guys are actually pretty good. I did not have
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  Speaker 2: one person tell me anything. Oh, good or bad. It's
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  Speaker 2: all on social media. I got a lot of compliments
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  Speaker 2: on you.
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  Speaker 1: Don't worry. I'm glad you guys are getting it. No, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: You were part of it. You got compliments.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you guys, the only play-by-play I've done, and
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  Speaker 2: I've done a lot of it, is baseball. And baseball,
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  Speaker 2: some people say, is the most difficult game. Some people
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  Speaker 2: say it's easier, you know, because it just depends on
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  Speaker 2: if you're able to do the rapid action. But you
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  Speaker 2: guys have both done basketball before. Brown does a great job.
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  Speaker 2: I've never really heard you do basketball at all.
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  Speaker 1: It's actually what I'm best at.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sitting there on the bench in what
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  Speaker 1: I'm best at. I suck at football. We've been asked
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  Speaker 1: to do another game. It's a regular season game for
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  Speaker 1: the SEC Network. Do you want to do play-by-play on
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  Speaker 1: that one? We're doing an SEC Network. No, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: We've been asked. SEC Network Plus. We've been asked, but
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  Speaker 1: it is true. It's fun. I might let you two
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  Speaker 1: have this one. Yeah, I'm just saying if you want
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  Speaker 1: to do play-by-play, I'll do color. Well, I'll need to
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  Speaker 1: know who's involved. You saw one of the teams last night.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to Tallahassee?
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, with all that said, it's more difficult than people
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  Speaker 2: think because if you do this, Let's say that who
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  Speaker 2: are some of the best broadcasters week in, week out
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  Speaker 2: in college basketball?
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  Speaker 1: College basketball? I do like Dan Shulman. I think he
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  Speaker 1: and Billis are a good team. Tom Hart does a
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  Speaker 1: good job. I was going to say, I enjoy Tom Hart.
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  Speaker 1: Tom's good at everything he does.
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  Speaker 2: Doing it all the time, you get familiar, just like
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  Speaker 2: we get familiar watching college basketball throughout the year. And
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  Speaker 2: we know with Transfer Portal and just I mean, you
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  Speaker 2: brought this up last night. Only 5% of the offensive
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  Speaker 2: production returned for Luke Laux and Florida State in year two.
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  Speaker 3: That's right.
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  Speaker 1: So you've got to completely.
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  Speaker 3: you.
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  Speaker 2: Know revamp this roster and at the same time we've
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  Speaker 2: got to go through all of these bios and and
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  Speaker 2: go through all of these numbers and it's just it's
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  Speaker 2: a lot of work for one call yeah but you
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  Speaker 2: know once you get into the season and you've seen
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  Speaker 2: these team multiple times it gets a little easier but
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  Speaker 2: i mean to do it you know once a year
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  Speaker 2: one time going in with all this information it's a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah and i tell brown you know me i overanalyze
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  Speaker 1: everything i thought i got a lot better the final
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  Speaker 1: 30 minutes of the game than I did the first
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  Speaker 1: 10 minutes. I was very quiet the first 10 minutes.
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't jump in.
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  Speaker 2: Like Brown probably told you, I have no idea. It
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  Speaker 2: seemed like the whole broadcast was about the same.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you did a wonderful job early on filling in
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  Speaker 1: when I was afraid to talk, and then I jumped in.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I enjoy doing the play-by-play. I really do
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  Speaker 1: enjoy that. Somebody asked me today, a golf buddy of mine,
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  Speaker 1: was like, why do you not do that more?
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  Speaker 3: And I'm like, I don't.
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  Speaker 1: Know that i'm any good at it number one and
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  Speaker 1: number two there just aren't opportunities i mean where am
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  Speaker 1: i supposed to go i did back in the early
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  Speaker 1: when i was in my 20s um i did the
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  Speaker 1: super six you guys the super six for those that
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  Speaker 1: don't know is the high school football championship games back
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  Speaker 1: in the day here in birmingham you're sure with herb
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  Speaker 1: right i did i did it with herb and matt
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  Speaker 1: coulter and people like that was on radio no it's
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  Speaker 1: tv they had tv when you were in your 20s
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  Speaker 1: You're getting older. It's an old joke. And I did it,
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  Speaker 1: and one of the directors was a guy they brought in.
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  Speaker 1: They spent a lot of money, and they brought him in.
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  Speaker 1: He did ESPN games, and he was like, hey, have
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  Speaker 1: you ever thought about doing play-by-play? I was like, I
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  Speaker 1: enjoy doing it.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: He goes, well, man, I could get you some ESPN games.
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  Speaker 1: He goes, now, I'm just going to be blunt with you.
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  Speaker 1: They're not going to pay you. He said, I'm just
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  Speaker 1: going to be blunt with you. He said, you could
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  Speaker 1: work all fall next year. I can get you all
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  Speaker 1: fall next year. He said, but you're going to have
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  Speaker 1: to do the bottom-of-the-barrel games probably for two or three years,
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  Speaker 1: but I think you can climb the ladder. And that
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  Speaker 1: just sounded miserable, like spending every college football Saturday. That's
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  Speaker 1: what would get me. I would love doing basketball because
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  Speaker 1: it's basketball season. You don't feel like you're missing everything.
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  Speaker 1: That's right, but I couldn't miss a college football Saturday.
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  Speaker 1: No offense, but if I was stuck doing... Well, I
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  Speaker 1: was about to. I shouldn't name a school, but I will.
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  Speaker 1: If I had to do all of a sudden I'll
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  Speaker 1: say La Tech playing FIU, it'd be nice to be
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  Speaker 1: at the beach in Boca, but Well, I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: would hate to be doing that while Alabama and Tennessee
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  Speaker 1: and Texas and Florida are playing on the other channel.
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  Speaker 1: I went home and talked to Jennifer and I'm like, I'm,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'll talk to this guy, but we'd be going,
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  Speaker 1: I'd be going every weekend. And then she's like, well,
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  Speaker 1: like where? And I'm like, you know, Monroe, Louisiana, for instance.
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  Speaker 1: And then I started naming all these cities and I'm like, God,
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  Speaker 1: that sounds miserable.
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  Speaker 2: You know, if you want it to be the next
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  Speaker 2: Tom Hart, then that's the path you got to take.
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  Speaker 2: You talked about David Pollack and his journey and to
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  Speaker 2: get into broadcasting, he was taking $ 1, 200 a month. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: if that's what you ultimately want to do, but that
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  Speaker 2: was just going to be kind of a side hustle
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  Speaker 2: for you, and that does seem like a grind. I
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  Speaker 2: love the fact that night 80 gave us an opportunity
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  Speaker 2: to do it. It was a great atmosphere. It was
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  Speaker 2: a lot of fun. Auburn fans should be excited about
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  Speaker 2: the team they've got if Tahad doesn't shoot you out
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  Speaker 2: of games night in, night out.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I did a poor job of expressing my feelings
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  Speaker 1: near the end of that game, but he had 20 points,
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  Speaker 1: and I was like, Florida State won the game, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, if you didn't pay attention. They beat Auburn
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  Speaker 1: last night pretty easily when it was all said and done.
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  Speaker 1: Tahad led all scorers. Pettiford did with 20. And I
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  Speaker 1: was trying to tell Forrester, and I tried to say
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  Speaker 1: it on the broadcast last night, it's like 20 points
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  Speaker 1: in space. It's like it didn't impact the game.
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  Speaker 2: Well, because it took him 18 shots to score 20 points,
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  Speaker 2: and that is an inefficient.
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  Speaker 1: Line right there. That's how Florida State's big ends up
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  Speaker 1: with 21 boards. I'm with Lance. It was like 20 points, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but they were empty calories. That's what it felt like.
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  Speaker 1: They were empty calories. We'll jump into the state of
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  Speaker 1: Auburn basketball coming up in the second half of our show,
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  Speaker 1: the next round. You can get that if you're watching
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  Speaker 1: That helps us in our little small business that we
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  Speaker 1: have in Birmingham, Alabama. We jump in, though, to what's
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  Speaker 1: going on on a national scale. First with the NFL tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Very interesting dynamic. Seahawks-Broncos, 7-15 on prime. where the Broncos
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  Speaker 1: at Hard Rock Bet I have as a two-and-a-half point
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  Speaker 1: favorite in this game. I've seen it as high as three-and-a-half.
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  Speaker 2: I guess depending on where you're shopping it, hopefully you're
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  Speaker 2: they've got it at two-and-a-half, yeah, I have seen it
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  Speaker 2: drop to two-and-a-half now.
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  Speaker 1: So two-and-a-half in a game where, to me, the Broncos offense,
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  Speaker 1: with Sean Payton calling plays again, is still searching for
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  Speaker 1: itself with Bo Nix. Is that offense an offense you
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  Speaker 1: can trust? on any given Sunday or, in this case, Thursday?
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  Speaker 1: Real quick, you said the Broncos are favored 2.5. Seattle's
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  Speaker 1: favored 2.5.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Seattle's.
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  Speaker 1: I wrote that down. So Seattle's favored 2.5.
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  Speaker 2: To answer your question, after coming off the win in
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  Speaker 2: SoFi against the Chargers this week, 223 yards of total
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  Speaker 2: offense for this Broncos offense. You saw the Rams shut
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  Speaker 2: them out in a first half a couple of Sunday
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  Speaker 2: nights ago. They were able to come back and win
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  Speaker 2: that game. Pick six really helped that out. Denver is
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  Speaker 2: really good at forcing the turnovers. I will tell you, Seattle,
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  Speaker 2: they've been so uneven as far as turning the football over.
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  Speaker 2: 3-0 when they don't turn it over, and their two losses,
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  Speaker 2: seven turnovers. Four against the Commanders, three this past weekend,
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  Speaker 2: or three against the Commanders, four this past weekend against
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  Speaker 2: the 49ers. When Seattle plays clean football, everything's great. When
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  Speaker 2: they turn it over, like most teams in the NFL,
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  Speaker 2: they have a serious problem. And you've got a new
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  Speaker 2: offensive coordinator in Brian Flory. He's starting to get the
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  Speaker 2: heat Ryan Grubb got a couple of years ago. Because
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  Speaker 2: Seattle ran the ball so effectively last year with Kenneth Walker,
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  Speaker 2: they can't run it right now. Look, Jadarian Price is
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  Speaker 2: already on IR. They don't have the personnel they had
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  Speaker 2: in the past, but they're just not running the football.
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  Speaker 1: And when they don't run the football, it puts a
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  Speaker 1: lot more pressure on Darnold. No Patrick Sertan for Denver, right?
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  Speaker 1: He's out, so that opens.
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  Speaker 3: Up one corner.
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  Speaker 2: Hufanga's out, too, the guy that had the pick six
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  Speaker 2: against the Rams.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's an interesting play tonight. Brownie Seahawks-Broncos tonight.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, when you're a two-and-a-half-point road favorite in the NFL,
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  Speaker 1: you're probably a two-and-a-half-road favorite. 200-point road favorite for a reason.
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  Speaker 1: I think I probably like Seattle in this situation. Broncos
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  Speaker 1: are my play. Are they? I think the interesting thing
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  Speaker 1: on this game, do you guys like Sean Payton? I
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  Speaker 1: do not like Sean Payton. I knew you didn't. Where
• 9:56
  Speaker 1: are you on Sean Payton? I like Sean Payton. Of
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  Speaker 1: course you do. I've liked him ever since he waved
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  Speaker 1: at me while he was riding a bike down on
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  Speaker 1: 38 one time. That's all it took, huh? Oh, there's
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  Speaker 1: Sean Payton on a bike.
• 10:06
  Speaker 2: I waved, he waved back. I was like, I like
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  Speaker 2: that guy. He's a pretentious dick. So Lance is not
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  Speaker 2: a fan.
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  Speaker 4: He is.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think anybody that knows Sean Payton would
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  Speaker 1: tell you that. So am I. So that's maybe why
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  Speaker 1: I like him. So you would say you hope it
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  Speaker 1: is a complete disaster for Bonex tonight. Nope, not necessarily,
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  Speaker 1: depending on which side I've got. I forgot about that.
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  Speaker 1: If you could remove yourself from that, though, if you
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  Speaker 1: don't like Sean Payton and he takes over play calling,
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  Speaker 1: you're like, I.
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  Speaker 2: Hope it's a total disaster. Yeah, I mean, against, you know,
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  Speaker 2: one of the AFC West rivals. But, I mean, they're playing–
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  Speaker 2: doesn't matter what side I've got tonight, I'm pulling for
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  Speaker 2: Denver because if Seattle loses, they're 3-3.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. You've got too much skin in this game
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  Speaker 1: to answer my question. I know what your point is.
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  Speaker 1: If you don't like Sean Payton, I'm the smartest guy.
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  Speaker 1: I let my guy call plays, and boy, he did
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  Speaker 1: so bad in four games. He's done with it, or
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  Speaker 1: five games, whatever it is. He's done with it. I'm
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  Speaker 1: calling plays now. I'm taking it back over. I gave
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  Speaker 1: him a month to do it. He couldn't get it done.
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  Speaker 1: I'm taking it back over. You want him to fail
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  Speaker 1: if you don't like him, right? Because you want Sean
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  Speaker 1: Payton to realize, buddy, you're not the genius you think
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  Speaker 1: you are. Now, I happen to think Sean Payton's Can
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  Speaker 1: be an offensive genius at times. Made Drew Brees a
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  Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. Yeah, and if Bo Nix doesn't break
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  Speaker 1: his foot, his ankle, whatever he did in the playoffs
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  Speaker 1: last year, they beat New England in the AFC Championship.
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  Speaker 1: They're in the Super Bowl, yes. They're in the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: They get whipped just like New England did. Probably so.
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  Speaker 1: They're there.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I would have liked Denver's defense a little bit better
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  Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl than I did New England's last year.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know anything about Davis Webb other than the
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  Speaker 1: fact that people think he's going to be an NFL
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  Speaker 1: head coach one day, so he's probably going to be okay.
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  Speaker 1: I just kind of feel bad for him because... I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you try to put yourself in his position to be
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  Speaker 1: an offensive play caller in the NFL. That's a life
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  Speaker 1: ambition for that guy, probably, once he started coaching. And
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  Speaker 1: a path to being a head coach. And a path
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  Speaker 1: to being a head coach. When you're successful, you get it.
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  Speaker 1: And almost everybody to the man, the moment you got it,
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  Speaker 1: is like, yeah, let's see how long that lasts. Not
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  Speaker 1: because they thought he was going to suck, but because
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  Speaker 1: they thought his head coach could never stop calling plays.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you knew if you're Davis Webb, it's a
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  Speaker 2: great opportunity. But at the same time, you knew more
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  Speaker 2: than likely.
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  Speaker 3: If.
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  Speaker 1: Anything went south... The minute we struggle. Yeah, that's going
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  Speaker 1: to get revoked. Yeah, and I kind of feel bad
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  Speaker 1: for Davis Webb for that. Don't know, Davis Webb could
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  Speaker 1: be just as unlikable as Sean Payton. I have no
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  Speaker 1: earthly idea. But given that opportunity, and it's like you
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  Speaker 1: get a month to do it, and you knew this
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  Speaker 1: was going to happen. Everybody, I mean, it's been a
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  Speaker 1: running joke with us and Brock for two or three weeks,
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  Speaker 1: like how long is Sean Payton not going to call plays?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, everybody knew this was going to happen. So
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: that's the NFL tonight. Really interesting. I got a pro
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  Speaker 1: next year. A little something has happened in the quarterback market.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk about that at some point today or tomorrow.
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• 15:07
  Speaker 1: Milwaukee's a plus 130 favorite in this one. And the
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: Dodgers are down LT three games to zero. The Brewers
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: went again last night. And we're talking about payroll discrepancy,
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: Dodgers gap, some other teams gap, and then you eventually
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: get down to the Brewers and everybody else. What's happening
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: to the Dodgers going for that rare three-peat is pretty
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: amazing that they could get swept out of this thing
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: in the NLCS.
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: Well, the last time they were down 3-0 in a
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: seven-game series, a 1966 World Series against.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: The Orioles, they got swept out there. Look, they're not
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: going to win this series.
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: If there is any team equipped to win a seven-game
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: series down 0-3, it would be the Dodgers just because
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: you have so many Cy Youngs, another one that Gave
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: up back-to-back home runs for the first time in his career.
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: Tom Green's little brother, Blake Snell. God, he pitched so
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: well after giving up that leadoff home run all the
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: way into the seventh. But they do have the front-line starters.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: They've obviously got the offense, but it just hasn't been there.
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: Max Muncy was asked after the game, you know, What's
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: going on? He was like, well, we're playing like shit,
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: and they're playing well. I mean, it's pretty obvious, but
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: the Brewers had the better record. They had the better
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: season splits against the Dodgers. They're the better team right now.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's just no denying it. Baseball's a weird sport.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: You guys know this. It seems like every other year
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: we have a wild card that gets in. They make
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: this incredible run. They win a World Series, and I
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: know the Dodgers have done it back-to-back, but the Brewers
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: are just a better team.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: The angriest the Braves fans have ever been at Dunaway.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: was that Dodgers come back on Atlanta that was 3-1
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: though right that wasn't 3-0 that was 3-1 yeah it
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: was 3-1 okay I'm just trying I mean yeah coming
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: out of a 3-0 I mean I asked Lance last
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: night it was after the basketball game we grabbed the
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: bike to eat after you left and He's like, man,
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: the Dodgers are going to lose again. I was like,
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: it's over, right? He's like, oh, it's over. I mean,
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: you just don't come out of a 3-0.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: You can't.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: I don't care how good you are.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: And I love that everybody will bring up the Red
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: Sox and the Yankees because it's the one time we've
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: seen it.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's the one time ever, right? Yeah, that's it.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: And they do documentaries on that. Yeah, there's a reason
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: you do a documentary on that because it never happens. Yeah,
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: and the Brewers.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, baseball is a weird sport, but you can
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: get a feel on when a team's coming together. And
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: there's just something magical about this Brewers run. I think
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: they're going to win the whole thing. I don't think
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: there's any doubt.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you beat the Dodgers, you're the best
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: team at that point. But, you know, I've said here
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: with Tampa Bay and they've got to take care of Cleveland.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: But my wish was, man, if somebody can knock off
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: the Dodgers, there's a path there to maybe Tampa Bay
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: could win the World Series. Do you really want the Brewers?
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: And now all of a sudden, and to his point,
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: the Brewers had home field advantage because they had the
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: best record in the National League. which gave him the
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: best record in all of baseball over Tampa Bay.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: But if you're Dave Roberts, it really is like Tyler
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: Glass now, a guy that's been in this situation a
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: million times.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: He's on the Hill tonight.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: So you get one, and then you get to the weekend,
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: and maybe you get game five, and then it goes
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: back to Milwaukee, where I wouldn't be surprised if it
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: goes back to Milwaukee for game six. Milwaukee's going to
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: win one of those two games. I don't think there's
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: any way it gets to a seventh game, but I
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised if the Dodgers grab these next two.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: But I also wouldn't be surprised if Glass now pitches
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: well tonight. The Dodgers lose 2-1.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: They just can't swing it right now. But that's the
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: way the Red Sox came back is they won one game,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: and then they won that second one. Then all of
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: a sudden, when you're up 3-0, and then all of
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: a sudden it's 3-2 again, the pressure– is on the
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: other team at that point. We need to finish it
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: here in game six because if it goes game seven,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: we don't want that to happen. You don't want to
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: start looking in the mirror like, are we collapsing? You
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: don't even want that to enter your mind.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: It's just wild that the Dodgers can be so good
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: offensively at certain times. I know Tani's hurt, but he
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: was one for two, so now he's four of 22.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: In this postseason.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: Will Smith, who was incredible in the NLCS and World
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: Series last year, is one of 25 this postseason. I mean,
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: these are just insane numbers that are going the opposite direction.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: For the Dodgers.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: All right, a lot of fun things to get to.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: Roman Harper in our next segment. Brown is going to
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: give us in the commercial break six games, and we're
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: going to rank them confidence level one through six on
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: picking to win that game. All you got to do
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: is pick the winner. The one we're most confident at one,
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: the least confident at six of six of the biggest
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: games on this massive college football weekend. We'll dry erase
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: board that here on this Thursday. That's coming up. The
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Righteous Gemstones are back. 6-1 week one of the Righteous Gemstones.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Last week, 1-6. That makes you 7-7 on the year.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: I've got 10 locks today that I told Brown I
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: think I can go 10-0 on. okay you know yeah
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: that's right you know these aren't just winners these are
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: uh you know yardage and things like that seems very
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: probable so seven and seven I'll fire some stat-based winners
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: coming up. And how did you come up with your
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: prop numbers? Well, that's the problem. If I used real
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: prop numbers, I think I'd be almost perfect. I'd throw
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: out some outrageous numbers. I will just give a tip
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: to everybody out there listening. When he throws his numbers out.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: What you do is write down what he likes and
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: then wait until the actual number comes out on these
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: props to see how far off he is.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: That's true. That's a good way to play that. I'm
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: just saying I'm good up until a certain point is
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: what I like to say. So a quick break here.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Roman Harper on the other side. It's the next round
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: presented by Hard Rock Bet on Sport and State. Here's
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: my favorite thing. When I was young, there was this
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: thing called radio, and they used to play music on radio.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: And you could have a DJ call up, and they'd
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: play your favorite song. right before you could have your
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: favorite song on your phone. That's right. And I told
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Brown earlier this week, I was like, man, we hadn't
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: had Roman Harper on. I want Roman Harper on. And
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: it was like total request live. You got Roman Harper
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: on for me, and I appreciate it. Yeah, this one
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: goes out to Jim in Alabaster, Alabama. Roman Harper with us.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: What's up, Harp?
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: How are you? What's up? I appreciate the radio voice
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: right there.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: I appreciate that.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: I can throw that on. How you been, man? Everything good?
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: Everything's been good.
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: Just dad my ass off over here. The grind don't stop.
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: Whenever I'm not on TV, I'm just grinding over here.
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: So yeah, but it's been good though, man. I've really
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: enjoyed this season so far. A new cast on SEC Nation,
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: but the vibes have been high. The guys have been really,
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: really good and it's been fun. It's been energetic and
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: The crowds have been really good so far as well.
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: So and we're just talking ball. So it's been good.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: What's what's the kids ages now? All your kids.
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: My daughters are 14 and 12, 14 year old. She's
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: still just so loving and so nice and so sweet.
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: Boys are starting to become a situation, but she's not
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: really that interested.
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: But they're definitely interested. So, you know.
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: You know, it's like Martin Lawrence, Will Smith all over
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: again in Bad Boys. You know, it's like, you know
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: what I mean? It's like, bro, it's a thing. My 12-year-old,
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: she's doing great. She's probably my best athlete, even though
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: her care factor is kind of low. And all of
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: a sudden, she's also the tallest woman in the house, too.
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: So that became a thing this year, too.
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know.
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: And then my sons are 10 and 6, and my oldest,
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: he's ball all the time.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: He's 100%. He's all boy all the time.
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: He doesn't really think a lot, which is kind of bad,
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: but it's kind of like, kind of comes with the territory.
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: And it's not like boys are dumb.
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: They just make whatever the easiest answer is. They just like, oh,
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: I didn't think about B or C. It was just like,
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: A showed up. It was like, dude, I'm doing A.
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: That's just what it is. And it's consistent. I'm kind
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: of the same way. I look up and I'm like, yeah,
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: I kind of get that.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: We've been doing that since the caveman, man. I'll just
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: live in this hole right here.
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: I'm cool.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: I don't think I need to upgrade until my wife
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: is like, dude, what are we doing? I like this.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: I like the cave.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: No, I don't like the cave.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: So, Harp, I know you've got to be excited about
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: your Tide.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: I know they're coming off a loss, but they're 5-1,
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: and they look to be one of the maybe elite
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: teams in college football. We were talking about this secondary
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: in the past defense, and it's kind of interesting because
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: they're 12th in the SEC right now. and they're giving
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: up 236-plus yards per game through the air, but they're
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: forcing turnovers, nine interceptions, four pick sixes. Where are you
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: right now on the secondary that's had a couple of
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: miscues here and there, but they still have a ton
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: of talent?
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: You know, talent's not an issue.
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: Talent's not an issue at a lot of schools.
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: And I also wouldn't use the word excited.
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: I think this past Saturday was a great opportunity for
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: this Alabama team as far as, like, like a measuring stick.
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: Whether you win or lose the game, you could still
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: end up out of the playoffs regardless.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: But it was a good performance overall.
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: And if I charted 68 plays for this Alabama defense,
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: I think 59 of them were damn good.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: The effort was there.
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: The run fits, the intensity, like winning football, 59 plays.
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: But those other nine plays, you got to find ways
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: to fit runs better. You've got to be able to
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: get off blocks. We got to not overrun a wide receiver,
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: Bray Hubbard, and give up a big explosive play right
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: down the middle of the field early on in that game.
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: It's those plays that continue to hinder this secondary and
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: this defense from being all that they can be. I
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: would also say a couple times Gunnar Stockton just looked
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: up and said, where's Dijon Lee at? I'm throwing it
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: his way because he's either going to PI the wide receiver,
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: or I think I got a chance on a one-on-one
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: pass play. And so understanding that if you're Dijon Lee,
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: he was in great position on both of them. He's
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: just got to not panic on one of the pass
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: interference and the other one. He looks back shoulder when
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: all the tendencies of the wide receiver telling you that
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: it's over the top. And so you got to play
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: your technique all the way through and through. And I'm
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: telling you right now, until you fix the leak, people
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: are going to continue to try and do it. And
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: so he has to be able to stand up and
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: make these plays and say, I'm good enough to be here.
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: believe in himself and go make the plays. I think
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: that's what it's all about. And you got to give
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: Georgia and Gunner Stockton and that receiving group and not
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: just receivers, but.
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: Tight ends as well.
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: They made every tough catch in that game in one-on-one situations.
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: They deserve a lot of credit for that because they
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: own scholarship too.
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: And so.
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: Tough throws under tough duress and tough, tight windows.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: They made them.
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: They made every single one of those plays. And so
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: if you're Alabama, you got to find a way to
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: make some.
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: Of those plays.
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: And the next time, if you have to match up
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: with a team. of Georgia's stature. And ultimately, that's what
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: the game came down to. Oh, and besides the play
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: we're not supposed.
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: To talk about, right? Because we're not penalty vultures over here.
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: So, you can't talk about that play like it didn't
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: affect the end of the game.
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: But, you know, other than that, it was a great game.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: And I agree with you on that. The Dijon Lee
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: thing and... The penalty at the end will never happen again.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: So I never think about that. But the actual playing
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: of the position, I love the way you talked about that.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: If I remember correctly, Terry and Arnold was that guy
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: at one point in his career that they targeted and
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: then he grew into a first round draft pick. So
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: how does that transition happen for Dijon? Is it a
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: growth thing? Is it a rep thing? What happens to
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: where you're the target one year and by the time
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: you're leaving Alabama, you're a first round draft pick? How
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: does that transformation happen?
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: It's all of those things. It's growth. It's trial and error.
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: It's messing up a lot and learning from your mistakes, ultimately. Like,
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: the reason why I was able to play football for
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: as long as I was because I messed up a lot,
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: but I wasn't a repeat offender. Like, if you beat
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: me on something once, you had to beat me on
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: something else the next time. Like, that's constantly evolving, changing
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: your game, learning what teams are doing against you. And
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: so I can counteract that. And so here we go.
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: I'm going a little quick teaching lesson. And so what
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: do I mean by, you know, he's looking back shoulder
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: versus over the top. And so when you're covering guys
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: in one on one situations and I'm in phase, which
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: means I can reach out and touch it with my hand.
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: That means I can play the ball now. If I'm
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: out of phase and I can't touch him, I just
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: got to get in phase.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: I'm just running to get in phase. He was in
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: phase in every single one of these plays, which means
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: he can touch the receiver. So now you're allowed to
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: play the ball. Well, what indicators give you to where
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: you can play the ball?
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: It's hands.
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: If a wide receiver shows you his hands, play the hands.
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: Like that's the first indicator, hands. If his hands show,
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: play the hands.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: Next one is his eyes.
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: For you who have not been in that position, you're
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: 40 yards down the field. You're looking at the wide receiver,
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: his eyes start to get big. That means the ball's coming. Like,
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: it just happens. Your eyes start to get big. So
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: now you're ready.
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: Okay. His eyes are telling me the ball is coming.
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: And then the last one is the V of the net,
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: which means if I'm looking this way, the ball's coming
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: from this angle.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: If I look this way, the ball's coming back shoulder.
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: So it's a difference between when the V of the
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: neck's telling you back shoulder, where I got to play here,
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: or it's coming over the top.
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: And now I got to be ready to play the
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: ball over the top as well.
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: And so the one that he made the catch on,
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: the wide receiver made the catch on, was Dijon Lee
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: was in great position.
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: He turned it like it was going back shoulder when.
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: The wide receiver's clearly telling you it's coming over the
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: top because of the V of his neck. And so, like,
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: these are the little things that I'm like, ah, it's like, you.
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: Got to trust yourself. Don't panic.
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: Just what are we teaching you and use those techniques.
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: And you got to trust it. And ultimately, you can't
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: be afraid of the blind spot, which is just like
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: sometimes you lose a receiver and you just got to
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: play the tendencies. And it's OK. Like all of these
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: things happen. And so that's what I mean by that.
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: Like if he just does those things, you're going to
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: knock one of these passes down. Then they're not going
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: to throw it at you next time.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Dude, you can read eyeballs and V's of necks and
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: run at the same time. That's amazing. You got to
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: have that. And we go backwards.
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: And we go backwards.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: That's amazing, man.
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: So it's like, yes.
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: But these are the little intricate details. I'm telling you,
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: when you're playing for as long as I was able to,
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: when you're running with guys, the ball placement in the
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: NFL is so good. You have to have like, these
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: little details. Because how am I gonna know when the
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: dude's going back shoulder versus over the top? It's like, oh, well,
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: you look at how his body, what his body language
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: telling you.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: If the eyes start to get big, oh, no, the
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: ball's coming. So what do I need to do?
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: And I don't need to panic and grab him, because
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: you can't touch anybody in the NFL after five yards.
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: So you read the eyes and the V of the neck. Like,
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: all those things is like, oh... That's how you know
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: it's going back shoulder because his head told you. So
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: you play it here versus it's going here. So now
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: I need to be ready to play the hands.
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: Over the top.
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: It's simple to me, but I understand where you guys
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: are coming from.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: You see Roman Harper on the SEC Network and ESPN.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Let me ask you, when a player takes a chewing
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: like that, like he did and all national TV saw it,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: but sometimes the TVs don't see it, right? When a
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: player takes a chewing like that, once the emotions have settled,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: what is that meeting like? next time with the head
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: coach or the defensive coordinator or whoever it is emotions
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: are aside now we got to move forward what's that
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: first discussion like you think.
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: Uh i hope it's you know calm at the end
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: of the day understanding like it's the biggest thing is
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: is out of all most of my leaders like i
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: don't want to and i hope the board i know
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: the board he'd probably say this is like he's not
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: here to attack people i'm here to attack problems And
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: so the penalty is a problem. I don't care who
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: did it. You just happened to do it this time.
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: But I got to attack the problem, make sure it
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: does not happen again. Like, that is what we're here
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: to do. And that's winning football. Like, the penalty is terrible.
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: The timing of it, even worse. And so I'm yelling
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: because the ferocity and... the urgency of the moment must
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: be met by the right emotions.
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: And so I thought that part was correct.
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: And so, you know, I understand Dijon Lee is defeated
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: right there, was kind of walking off, doesn't want to
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: hear anything. But ultimately, you got to sit there and
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: you got to take that chewing. And then you got
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: to come back and say, guys, I messed that up. Like,
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: I cost us an opportunity, which I think the game
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: was still over.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: I agree. I agree.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the game, like, it's not, that play didn't cost
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: the team. It did not.
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: But is it a play or an opportunity where now
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: we can sit up and say, hey, these are something
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: that we can improve on and we can get better at.
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: And if we do these things, guys, this is what's
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: holding us back. We got to get these things cleaned up.
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: That's one of those nine plays that I'm talking about.
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: And so that's all you can do. And so I
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: think it was totally fine. And I applaud HaHa, Clint
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: Dix for understanding it too. And like, hey, dude, coach
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: is addressing, just sit here for a second, take the
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: butt chew and then move on. Like, you know what
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: I mean? Just like do that and move on. It's
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: four seconds of your life.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: You know, like HaHa had gotten them from the best
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: butt chewer in the history of football. So like, he
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: knew like, this is pretty mild, son. You just sit
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: here and get this one.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, it's fine. It's four seconds, dude. Sit here. Uh-huh, uh-huh. Okay. Yes, sir.
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: And just go on.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: It's nothing like that. Coach just.
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: He's got to go on to the next play, bro.
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: He ain't got time to chase you down the sideline.
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: He's on to the next one. So, it's okay.
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: And, you know, ultimately, like I said, Dijon Lee, who
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: I thought had struggled early in this year with confidence,
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: and all of a sudden now... working his way back
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: to where he is. I think he's just got to
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: keep playing, man. Just keep playing and everything will be
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: just fine.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: We want to get into some of these games, the
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: other games with you, but I want to talk about
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: the Alabama program as a whole. We're all watching the
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: Saban doc. I'm through four episodes. I think Brown's through four.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: I think Dunaway's through three. I don't know if you've
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: seen any of it, Harp.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: I haven't.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, it is about a lot of different
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: things with Saban, obviously, but it shows how he built
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: the LSU program and how he built the Alabama program.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Where Kalen DeBoer is in year three, there is no
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: denying from year one to year two, there was growth.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: From year two to year three, it looks like serious growth.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: And such a difficult transition coming off the greatest ever
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: do it, going from Nick Saban to Kalen DeBoer. But
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: right now, how different is the internal culture? And is
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: it 100% DeBoer's program finally in year three?
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: I think so.
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: But I think ultimately, it's still Alabama. So, like, you
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: have to live with that. Like, it doesn't matter the traditions. Like,
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: I'll never forget, Alabama hadn't won a national championship since
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: 92 when they were recruiting me.
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: But when we go there on.
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: Campus, my dad, when I left, he was like, I
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: don't know how you gonna turn this down.
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: It's a lot of tradition. It's a lot of pageantry.
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: It's just.
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: It still feels different and it still feels bigger than
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: what it is because it's still Alabama. You still have
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: to live up to that standard. And so that part
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: will forever be there. I think it was the perfect
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: marriage to get Nick Saban to come there at the
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: right time, as desperate as Alabama was, to get something
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: right as far as football was and giving him all
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: the resources. And then he's able to recruit at the
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: high clip he was. He gets that one recruiting class
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: with Julio, Mark Ingram, Mark Barron, all those guys that
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: are now funneling in. And then, boom, you got magic there.
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: You know, you got to hit some things right. And ultimately,
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: I do feel like this is Kalen's team. And everything
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: that they built up to this point, it's kind of
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: led to this. And they got their quarterback. They got
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: their players. It's a good team right now. Really, really
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: good team with a lot of potential.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: After Georgia and Alabama, who's really good in the SEC? Like,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: for a moment, I thought, man, this Florida team's going
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: to look good.
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: I thought Texas for a second.
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: Well, Florida, Florida can only win on their terms, right?
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: Where they're up, they're running the football. It's on their
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: terms without VB three, total different operation offensively and defensively.
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: They've kind of been exposed that they haven't been that great.
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: They've just been able to play with the lead all year.
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: So like that helps.
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: Them, uh, Texas.
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: I think Texas has somewhat been underwhelming all year long,
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: especially on the offensive side of the football. Um, and
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: I also believe, and I, and I, I say this
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: with all due respect because I think he could win
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: a national championship there, but Steve Sarkeesian is a lot
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: like Ryan day, right? It's like in these big games,
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: these big moments, sometimes things happen. You're like, what was
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: that coach? Uh, Ryan day's got a national championship. I
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: think Steve Sarkeesian could win one at Texas, but that
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: doesn't mean they're not the same. Like they will blow
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: a lead or something will happen in these games where
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: you just, you just don't understand it. Um, So I
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: think Missouri, in my honest opinion, as crazy as that.
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: Sounds, Missouri is my....
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: 3A, 3B, the third to fourth best team out there, Missouri.
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: And that's because of the way they play football. Defensively,
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: they're better than what everybody anticipated. Eli Drinkwitz knew he
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: had a good salty front up front. They've been really
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: good up there in what they've been doing that front
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: on the defensive line. And then offensively, still been able
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: to run the football with Jamal Roberts in this zone
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: run scheme where Coach Shanahan, for years ran wreck shop
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: in the NFL with three or four different thousand yard
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: running backs in.
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: Denver because of the zone run scheme. It's the scheme.
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: They do it extremely well down there in Missouri, up
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: in Missouri as well. But this year is different because
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: they got the quarterback in Austin Simmons. that is throwing
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: the football all over the ballpark. Missouri's a pass-first team,
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: so teams and defenses adjust, so they spread them out
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: to then be able to run it, and it takes
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: more guys out of the box, and it's allowing Jamal
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: Roberts to have a really big year.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: The problem for Missouri is, and I don't disagree with you,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: I think they're obviously really good, but this is life
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: in the SEC. They have absolutely got their hands full
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: Saturday and could take their second conference loss at Ole Miss.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's just life in the SEC. I mean,
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: they could be out of this thing by Saturday. Yeah,
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: and not only that, but Ole Miss could be out
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: of it, too. That's right.
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: Because Ole Miss plays no.
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: All right, so Ole Miss was worst defense in a
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: whole bunch of categories. They played Vanderbilt. They got to, like, 12, okay?
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: So they moved up a little bit. If Missouri's able
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: to play this game on their terms and stop Kiwan Lacy,
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: make Ole Miss one-dimensional, if.
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: They take care of the football... Missouri could be a
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: lot of problems for Ole Miss.
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: Just the way that Missouri plays, like their style, could
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: be a big problem for Ole Miss. So that's going
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: to be a dynamite matchup as well. And Ole Miss
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: is really good. And this may be the first game
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: if Ole Miss loses, people at Ole Miss are going
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: to be questioning is Pete Golding as well. So this
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: would be a great test for not only Ole Miss,
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: but for Pete Golding, his coaching style.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: You've got to love the Will Stein attitude. I mean,
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: they're 15th right now nationally. The one lost to Alabama.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: They played a really bad second half. Alabama dominated in Lexington.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: The wins now don't look as great for Kentucky, and
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: Will Stein said as much at his press conference. But
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: just the attitude of this team, believing week in, week out.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: Right now, where are you on Kentucky in year one
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: under Stein?
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: Look, confidence is real, you know?
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: It's something to be said about a guy that runs
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: a four or five, but believes he runs a four
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: or three. That means he's probably going to run closer
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: to a four, four. And so that's what Kentucky is
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: right now. I was also shout out me because I
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: was the only one that picked him in all of
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: ESPN last week. So just want to, you know, I
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: like being right. So shout out to them as well.
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: And it's something about feeling a bit disrespected as well.
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: I mean, you go on the road, you still won
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: at South Carolina and you fall out of the top 25.
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: I think motivation was a big factor last week versus LSU.
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: And LSU, you can't just throw the ball out there
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: and think, oh, we're just going to show up and
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: beat teams. You're not better than everybody, especially in year
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: one of putting together this operation where You paid a
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: lot of money, everybody's told you how talented you are,
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: but you're missing Trey Des Green, you're missing Wick Weeks
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: on defense, really big players, and the depth is not there.
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: And your quarterback continues to find and create ways to
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: turn the football over.
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: That's going to keep a lot of teams in games.
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: And it's just a really good way.
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: And I applaud Kentucky because they continue to fight for
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: this coach. And they are finding creative ways. And Kenny Mintz,
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: he's a smart quarterback. And he's not turning the ball over.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: I have said this for a long time. Since we're
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: talking about Will Stein, it's applicable here. If I've got
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: the ball second in the first overtime, I'm going for
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: two every single time. Because in the next overtime, Harp,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: you've got to run your best two-point play. Why not
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: do it when I can walk off? At what point
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: do you think you'll see coaches that get the ball
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: first start going for two? Like, not even risk it. Like,
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: I can't kick the extra point. Never do you think
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: they'll always kick the point.
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: No, it's just not in the coach's manual to do it. Like,
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: unless you're the most secure coach of all time and
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: you're ready to, like, If anybody questions anything, you're going to, like,
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: cuss them out and tell them to go F off.
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: They don't know what they're talking about. If you're ready
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: to be that guy, then you do it first.
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: But ultimately, you don't. And the funny thing is, we
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: talked to Will Stein this.
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: Week on Read Rack, Cole Kublik and I did.
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: And that wasn't even a quarterback draw. It was not
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: even a call.
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: Like, it was actually option right, like stick odds, like
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: a stick nod option concept on the right. And Kenny
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: Menchie got out there and they spread them out. and
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: there was nobody in the paint. So he just took
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: the ball, the rush came, and then he just took
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: off running. It was all the quarterback. He was like, dude,
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: that was not the call. But, you know, when you're
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: living right, you know.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: It looked like the call. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: was the Red Sea.
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you're over talking about perfect call. I was like, dude,
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: that was not even the call. That was not even
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: the call. So sometimes, man, when you're.
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: Living right and things just are happening for you, like
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: I said, when you're hot, You know, I've been on
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: two teams in the NFL. One was 13-0. The other
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: one started 14-0. And in between those 13 games, dude,
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: you win a couple games. We're like, there was no
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: way you're supposed to win it. We're at Washington. We're
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: supposed to lose. They missed a 27-yard kick. We come down, score. Like, boom,
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: we win a game. And when you win games, like,
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: that you're not supposed to win, dude, you're going to
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: win another game later on in the season that you, like,
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: Because you just have this ultimate belief like we got it.
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: Like we're going to turn the ship around. That's what happens.
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: And that's what I see out of this Kentucky team,
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: even this weekend.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: Well, we were talking about Sean Payton earlier. You obviously
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: played for him. You got a ring with him with
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: the Saints back in the day. We were talking about
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: this situation with Davis Webb calling plays for the Broncos.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: He's taking that back over. I mean, is he one
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: of the most controlling coaches you've ever played for?
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: No, his offense stinks, and he's a talented caller, play caller.
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: They're struggling right now. And you know what? Sean has ego,
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: all right? Sean has ego. And I can totally see Sean,
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: you know, his teams are struggling. Last week when they're
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: playing the 49ers and that linebacker cusses him out after
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: the game and his offense can't score.
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: Sean's probably like, you know what? Like, F this, bro.
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: Like, if I'm calling plays, I know I could get 20,
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: you know? And so I think that plays a role
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: in it. And ultimately, the only reason Davis Webb is
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: calling plays is because somebody else wanted him to be
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: an OC. And Sean said, you know what? I'll let
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: you call plays here. And it hasn't worked well. And
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: so he just did it just to appease so he
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: would get him to stay because he likes him and
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: he wants him to.
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: He thinks he's a good coach. But, you know, if...
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: You know, if it's not doing the job well and, like,
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: you only get.
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: One season and the team changes and he knows if
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: you don't win, somebody's going to get fired because that's
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: how the NFL rolls. It may not be Sean, but
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: something has to change and shift up. And so you
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: got to try and give it your best effort.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: Was that everything you wanted it to be? That's it, man.
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: Great.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, the eyeball v-neck, man. I'm going to
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: go home and practice that. You're going to go practice?
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: I mean, sorry, I can teach you out of phase,
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: in phase.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: No.
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: And I try not to use too much football terms
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: because I can get really deep on some of this stuff.
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: You know, this is what happens when you're my son, right?
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: You get to hear all of this when you're like.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: Hey, I'm like, dude, you're not playing the hands. Yeah,
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: our audience will eat that up. They'll eat that up.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: That explanation, they'll eat it up.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: And just one more, because you respect really good receivers.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: Is Jeremiah Smith the best college receiver we've ever seen?
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: Uh, yes, he'll have to win the Heisman this year
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: to be totally like secure that.
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: But yes, I think he's the complete cheat code.
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: I don't even know how good Ohio state and Julian
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: saying are because they just throw it up to Jeremiah Smith.
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: And like he, I don't even know what the big
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: 10 D coordinators are doing. The fact that you continue
• 44:06
  Speaker 5: to allow this guy be one-on-one with anybody. I would
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: play with nine other guys. Cause two of them are
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: going to be on him the whole game. And I
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: get in the low red zone, I'm doing punt coverage
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: where I'm jamming him. I'm putting two jammers up there
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: like you do on punt coverage. That's what I'm doing.
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: And he's already had one D coordinator fired this year,
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: Jeremiah Smith has. So, I mean, just keep racking him up.
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: The dude is a cheat code. He's so good.
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: Another wide receiver who a lot.
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: Of people are sleeping on, Anthony Evans III out of
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: Mississippi State. Really big fan of his as well. And
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: if that quarterback is healthy, watch out. Mississippi State has
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: a good chance this weekend versus the LSU team that's
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: kind of beat up, who needs to kind of figure
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: out who they are, and they need some home cooking
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: at home. And everybody in Louisiana is pissed off because
• 44:53
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• 44:56
  Speaker 4: So the weekends are just all messed up.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: All right, Harp, go read some next, man. Go read
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: some next.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks, guys. Appreciate it. And I don't do that anymore,
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: but if I need to, I could still get out
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  Speaker 1: Brownie gave us six games. Our most confident pick, this
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  Speaker 1: is just money line, it's straight up, straight up. Most
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: confident is one, least confident is six of these six games.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: Start us off, Lance. You want me to give them
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: the game so everybody knows what we're doing here?
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: We're doing Ohio State at Indiana. Okay. The third Saturday
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: in October, Alabama at Tennessee. Missouri at Ole Miss. Notre
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Dame at BYU. Wisconsin at UCLA. And Kentucky at Oklahoma. Uh,
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: number one for me is going to be Alabama. Oh man.
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: Look, I know they're coming off a difficult physical loss.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: I just don't think George McIntyre will be able to
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: do anything offensively against this defense. I know Alabama's lost
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: back-to-back games in Neyland, but Alabama running the football, limiting
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: what Deshaun Bishop does on the ground. I really liked
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: the tide there. Notre Dame has got two games on
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: their schedule. They have known this in the entire season.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: Now they're rolling into Provo. The atmosphere is going to
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: be incredible. but Notre Dame has found their run game.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: CJ Carr, one of the best quarterbacks in football, but
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: Jonas Walton, the true freshman, over 300 yards the last
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: couple of games on the ground. Notre Dame as a team,
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: over 600 yards. on the ground the last two games.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: I think running the football will be key to victory
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: for Notre Dame. Oklahoma, defense way too much for this
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: Kentucky offense. I know it's been a great story. Oklahoma's
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: offense scares me to death. They have not gone more
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: than 400 yards on a power four offense since week
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: two of the 2025 season. So that is still a concern,
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: but Oklahoma will get it done defensively. Wisconsin, Luke Fickle's
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: got this team four and one. Now you're going against
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: a backup quarterback. This Wisconsin defense has held three straight
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: opponents to under 250 total yards of offense.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: I'm surprised you have them that low on this.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: It's just hard to doubt Bob Chesney right now and
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: Wayne Knight's ability to run the football. Ole Miss, uh
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: the defense scares me to death I think it'll be
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: a hell of a game but I'm gonna favor the
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: home team here and then uh finally Indiana the last
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: time they lost you guys remember when I went to
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: see the Rams play the Jets that was that weekend
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: good lord yeah so it's literally.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: Almost been uh 23 months.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: Since the last time they lost a game Brownie what
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: do you have I've got Alabama number one.
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: Confidence.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: It's high going against George McIntyre making his second start.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: Before anybody turns the show off, I do not have
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: Alabama number one.
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: Oklahoma.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: Lance and I are fairly aligned with them. Our biggest
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: difference is Notre Dame. I'll get to that in a moment.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: I think Ohio State beats Indiana. They are the better team.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: Indiana's due a loss. For the record, all these are
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: tough games. That's why we picked them. They are tough games.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: This is why ranking them on your confidence level is difficult.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: I do think Wisconsin upsets UCLA, but boy, if you
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: think I am going to give a ton of faith
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: in a Wisconsin team coached by Luke Fickle, come on now. Yeah,
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: and if we're 3-3 on Wisconsin, I might flip back
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: around the other way. Yeah, really. Get ready, brother. Stand tight.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, to me, this might have been the most difficult.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: These two were the most difficult for me, obviously, because
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: I got confidence points. But the most difficult to pick
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: a winner, if this makes sense, even though I have
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: on number six, Ole Miss-Missouri is.
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: Such a tight game.
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: You almost switched because of Roman saying such nice things
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: about Missouri. I mean, I don't disagree with him on Missouri.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: It's just a tough spot for them.
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: But it does feel like the best game of that
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: window for sure in the SEC.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And it's on the SEC network.
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: And then Notre Dame. Look, I just think Notre Dame
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: has been untested. And this will be a difficult environment.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: That environment, Provo night time. It's a tough time to
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: play him. You've got him sixth. He's got him number two.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: That's why I'm saying that was our biggest departure. I
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: like BYU. They could get dick kicked here.
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: Uh-oh.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, not having their running back is huge. It's huge.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: For BYU. Yeah, huge. LJ Martin, right?
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, LJ Martin is going to be out the next
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: couple of games at least. And, look, he was kind
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: of the engine that drove that train. And I do
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: believe Bear Bachmeier will try to single-handedly get this thing done,
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: but I don't think he can do it.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: Against Notre Dame's defense.
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: No LJ Martin, no chance for me. Notre Dame's my
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: most confident team. Oh, it's your most confident.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: By the way, the biggest number on all these two,
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: Notre Dame's 10.5 point favorite for a reason.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: Wisconsin is next for me. This Wisconsin team, who played
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: Notre Dame really well for a half, I liked them
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: at UCLA because of the quarterback situation. But I've got
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: more coming up in the Righteous Jimson on this. I
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: don't expect that to be a high-scoring game. Easier to
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: pick the winner for me than a point spreader. Yeah,
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: I don't think you're going to get a lot of
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: great quarterback play from either side. Curtis Joseph's not going
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: to tear it up for the Badgers. Don't turn this
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: on too much. People throw it all over the field.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: Iowa fans will watch that and be like, if we
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: put either one of these teams in black and gold,
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: they look familiar. I go Alabama third. I'm not number
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: one confidence level there. I go Ohio State fourth. All
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: due respect to Indiana. I just feel like their team
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: is not Ohio State.
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: And I kind of agree what Harp said, though. Ohio
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: State's not whole right now. They are missing two key
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: starters on the offensive line. Whether or not those guys
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: will play this weekend, I don't know. I think two
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: are out and one other one's questionable. What is their identity?
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: Bo Jackson's good, but it's just more been about Jeremiah
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: Smith and nothing else.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: And I'm like you, Brown. I didn't know which team
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: to pick here, Ole Miss and Missouri. Tough game, man.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: And I went with the Sooners down here, but with
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: their offense, I'm not confident. And there does seem something
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: magical going on with Kentucky. So I went with the
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: Sooners least here, Notre Dame my most confident. We'd love
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: to see where you guys are at confidence level in
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: the chat room. Real quick, which of the two Ohio
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: State running backs, what are their names?
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: Bo Jackson and– No, not– I'm sorry, offensive lineman that
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: you're worried about.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: Oh. Well, they've got two that are listed out. I
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: don't know which two you're talking about, though. Jackson Powell
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: is out, and Austin Searfield is out.
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: Austin is the starter. Okay, so he's out.
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: He's out.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: He's out on the injury report, so he's not playing
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: against Indiana. And they've got a couple of other starters
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: that are banged up. I don't know if they're on
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: the injury report. Dante Armstrong is another offensive lineman. He
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: is questionable. So, yeah, they've got some injury issues up front.
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: We'll get into that injury report coming up a little
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: bit later on in the show. In fact, we'll do
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: it in part of the next segment along with our
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: righteous gemstone picks. But those are not against the spread
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: if you're watching now. That's not the hard rock bet
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: spread picks. Those are the just money line, confidence level, Alabama, Alabama,
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: number one for those two, number three for me. And
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: then we're all over the board on Notre Dame and BYU.
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we really are.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: I'm probably wrong on that then. Notre Dame and BYU,
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: a fun weekend coming up. We'll also look at that
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: pro football mock draft coming up in the next segment
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: before we do the Righteous Gym Zone. Interesting where the
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: quarterback class has flipped. And maybe one of the guys
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: that's hard to pick a winner now showing up as
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: a first-round quarterback. That's when we come back on Sport
• 54:10
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  Speaker 1: a moment, but... Listen, I butchered the lines early on
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: in the start of the segment, rushed from our outing
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: last night. East Carolina in town to play UAB. I
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: have ECU as a five-and-a-half point favorite on the road
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: at UAB tonight, 630 ESPN, hard rock bet if you
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: want to play that. The Seahawks in the NFL game,
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: two-and-a-half Seahawks in Denver against the Broncos. I had wrong
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: team favorite there, 715. Wrong team favorite. Actually, if I'm
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: playing at hard rock bet, I do take the Broncos
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: in that one. Probably Moneyline, that thing, too. So you
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: think they went out right at home?
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: I do.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: They have moved the Tampa Bay Rays-Cleveland Guardian game up,
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: game three, to 12 Central, 1 Eastern, because of weather
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: that's moving into Cleveland Outdoor Stadium. I said Tampa Bay
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: was the favorite. That's absolutely wrong. Cleveland's the minus-130 favorite.
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: Minus 130. Gavin Williams on the hill led the AL
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: in strikeouts. Tampa on the road is a favorite. Seemed
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: reasonable in the ALCS.
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: Sure.
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: And then Brewers-Dodgers game four tonight. Brewers up 3-0, 7
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: o'clock FS1. I said the Brewers were a plus 130 favorite. Jim,
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: it's plus 130. That's not the favorite. It's the Dodgers
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: that are favored, minus 157. How's your morning going? It's
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: going great. Thanks to Crockett Coffee. You had this morning
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: last Thursday, didn't you? I did, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: I was the butt of the joke last Thursday. I'm
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: going to give you some grace, though, Jim. Yeah, well,
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate that.
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: All right, so here are some injury report news. I
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: guess the biggest news is the Mississippi State-LSU game, the
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: most impactful injury. They're still not committing all the way
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: to Kamario Taylor being out of this game. Influx is
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: the way people are having it. He is listed as questionable,
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: as is Fluff Bothwell, the big running back. If neither
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: one of those guys play, path to victory for Mississippi
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: State seems to be zero. Yeah, it really does.
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: And look, there wasn't this kind of expectation with Mississippi State.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: When Kamario Taylor was playing like he was in September,
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: the expectations went a different way. But for LSU, the expectation...
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: has been the expectation since Lane Kiffin was hired, and
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: this would be a devastating loss. I will stick with it.
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: Kamario Taylor will not play in this game.
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: I will eat crow if he does. I will be
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: absolutely shocked if he plays in this game. Can I
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: just say, though, real quick, Levy did not have him
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: on the availability report as questionable, doubtful, or anything going
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: into the Alabama game, and he clearly was not 100%
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: going into that game. So I'm not quite certain how
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: legitimate Mississippi State's availability reports are. And I've had State fans,
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: when I brought that up, say, it's an availability report.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: He was available. They only call it an availability report
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: because you have to include suspended players on there as well.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: So it's not just.
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: Strictly an injury report. Brown brought this up last night
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: in the car. I was looking at something because of
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: the broadcast last night. I was like, damn, these Mississippi
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: State fans, because I don't check Twitter that much. I
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: was like, they are coming after me. I know Brooks
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: is really good at pushing buttons and getting things out
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: there that are going to get clicks. So, boy, they're
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: coming after me like, you don't know what you're talking about.
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: Camario's not hurt. There wasn't any kind of procedure. Just
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: wait and see.
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: If I'm completely wrong on this, I'll own it. Okay,
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: back to that injury report. If you can show me
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: Mississippi State, LSU one more time, Forrester. The LSU part
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: of that, though, is concerning to me as well. Out
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: is Whit Weeks again and Tredez Green out again. Tredez
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: is such a big part of their passing game, and
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: Leavitt is struggling throwing the football to the right jerseys
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: right now. If they do get anything from Camario Taylor,
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: that is another possible loss for LSU there.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: Oh, if Camario was playing, if he was playing and
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: he was healthy, Mississippi State would have every opportunity. By
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: the way, this number would only be like 6.5 or 7.
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: There's a reason it's 13.5 right now. I actually got
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: a text from Vegas yesterday. Hey, Camario's going to be
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: out in this game, right?
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: Wow. Lance Taylor, purveyor of Mississippi State information.
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: No, I think the knowledge is like, and it's not
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: like Levy can try to hide this all he wants.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: LSU knows. Vegas knows. Yeah, good point. And Lance knows. Missouri,
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: we don't know if Forrester says he doesn't know if
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: Missouri's taking the availability report seriously or not. Forrester, what
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: does theirs look like today, man? There's a couple of names.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: That's their roster. So really it's like who's not on
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: their availability report. Now it is the initial report, and
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: that would get pared down. This is probably punishment for
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: a grad assistant. Probable, questionable, and out. Got a campus situation.
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, that is just a ton of names there.
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: But some serious names around the league quickly before we
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: get to the righteous gemstones, the locks coming up for
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: this weekend. We mentioned Mississippi State LSU. In that Florida game,
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: Philo is questionable. Vernell Brown questionable. Oof. quarterback and best
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: wide receiver yeah Trammell Jones is apparently at least in
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: the discussion to be making his first start as a
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: Florida Gator and you're gonna have to do it on
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: the road against that Texas defense good.
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: Luck with Bob really struggling and Vernell Brown you know
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: possibly not playing again you know your best offensive weapon
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: at least on the perimeter Hey, look, Trammell Jones might
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: be the next best, the next great quarterback.
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: This is a tough spot for any quarterback.
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, really, really difficult spot, and Florida just is trending
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: in the wrong direction. For Georgia, Chauncey Bowens is out,
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: and they're starting to talk about he may be out
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: in an extended period of time, maybe even the season.
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: Nate Frazier not on the availability report, which means he
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: is available and could be back and running the football
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: for Georgia this week as they play host to Auburn.
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: And I had a lot of Georgia fans, you know, like,
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: make sure you mention that– Frazier didn't play about it.
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, guys, I don't think it would have
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: been any different. Like, I don't think, I mean, Georgia
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: ran for 220. I don't think with Frazier playing, they
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: were going to run for much more than 220. They've
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: got depth at running back.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: But it still is impressive when you're down to your
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: third string guy.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: And look, Frazier is obviously their alpha.
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  Speaker 2: You know, he tried to play against Vanderbilt a couple
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: of carries with the sore ribs and couldn't go. But
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: for Dwight Phillips to be able to just step in
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: and go 120 on the ground against that defense.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: And I'm not diminishing that. I'm just saying there's like
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: this school of thought that if Frazier had played that
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: the game would have been a blowout. I'm like, no,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: the score is no different with Frazier in there. I
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: don't disagree with that. He's just got the yard somebody
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: else had. One more SEC game. Kentucky at Oklahoma. Kentucky's
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: great running back, C.J.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: Baxter.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: Questionable for the game after getting banged up a little
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: bit in the LSU contest.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's, you know, look, we're going to know
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: about Kenny Menchie this week because you're playing an elite
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: defense and you're doing it on the road. And if
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: they can continue to score in the 30s and win
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: these types of games, watch out. Like, this will be
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: the moment for me with Kentucky. I know it should
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: have been last week, but it was against LSU. Again,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of things internally going on with the injuries.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: Now it's a road game against a great defense.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and so this would be another big statement for
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: Will Stein.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: Outside of the SEC. Oregon, Dante out again. Dante Moore
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: not playing.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: I love the drama, though, because Raiola, as good as
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: he was in relief in the Coliseum and just playing
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: flawless football, he was awful with the three turnovers before.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: He got benched last week. Got benched, though.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: But he is going to get the start in this
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: against his former team. So we got a lot of
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: drama here, and we'll see how well he plays.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: And the best receiver he has, Evan Stewart, questionable in
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: this game as well, too, for Oregon. So they're a
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: little banged up there. We mentioned Ohio State's offensive lineman
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: that is out, one of their starters, and some others
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: that are injured. In the upset alert news for Brooks
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: and I, Cal, I'll let Lance say it, but JKS
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: is not on the availability report. He looks like he's
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: back this week. Sagapula Telly. Yep, so it looks like
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: he's back. That's big for Cal as underdogs at home
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: this week. Duke. No Nate Shepard, at least right now,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: he's questionable for the big game for Duke against UNC. Yeah, look,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: and UNC's.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: Got a legitimate defense, and they're coming off a nice
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: win against Pittsburgh where they completely dominated. Holden Gerner was
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: terrible in the second half against that defense, but no
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: Nate Shepard, this offense doesn't run.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: And then Georgia Tech, which has struggled offensively, especially to
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: run the football, Justice Haynes, doubtful in this game now.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: Not even questionable. He's doubtful for this game. Just with him,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know the... reason he left Michigan and ended
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: up at Georgia Tech, but boy, is he just to
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: have such a good start for his career at Alabama
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: and then go to Michigan. I mean, his, the end
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: of his career is just, it's off Broadway.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: You know, they're two and three. So Georgia Tech's under
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: the radar. Nobody's talking about it, but he hasn't, I mean,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: he's on pace for over a thousand yards. He's averaging
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: over five yards carry. So he hadn't been bad.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: It's just the offense. The defense has been terrible.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: The fourth worst scoring defense right now. in the ACC.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: So the defense has been bad. The offense hasn't been good,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: but he hasn't been bad.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: He's just kind of off the radar. That's my point.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah. All right.
• 1:03:13
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• 1:03:16
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  Speaker 1: Let's do it. Welcome to the choir room.
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  Speaker 3: Let's go.
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  Speaker 1: How did we do last week? Do we have a record?
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: We were one and six last week.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: That's the old bounce back.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: Coming off six and one, though. That's right. So that
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: makes us seven and seven on the year. We're 500.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: You know you weren't supposed to do segments more than
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: one time, though.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: That's right. This is episode three.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: You should have buried it after one. It was so
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: good the first week. I like it. I want to
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: keep it. Don't worry about the record. We are rolling.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: Pipe that organ up a little bit. Pretend it's the
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: rim mic from our broadcast last night. Turn that organ up.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: I'm almost talking over it. Got some complaints about that.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know about you. I got three plays in
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: one game here. You ready?
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  Speaker 5: All right.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: Of my ten threes in one game, Utah, Colorado, righteous
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: Jim Stone Locke. Take Utah, minus nine and a half
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: in the first half. There are reasons why. Because Wayshon
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: Parker is going to run his tail off. I don't
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: know if you can bet on this anywhere, but I've
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: got Wayshon Parker with two touchdown runs over 30 yards
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: on those touchdown runs. So one touchdown, 30-plus run from scrimmage.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: Another touchdown run, 30-plus yard from scrimmage. Long running touchdowns
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: from Wayshon Parker. That would never be a prop, but
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: that's getting out there. That's a good one, though. I
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: like it. Let's keep up with it. And then, listen,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: Utah beat Colorado last year, Deion's worst touchdown. Margin of
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: victory ever, 46 points. Deion keeps it under the 46.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: They lose by only 45 or 44. It's a beatdown,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: but it won't be as bad as last year. So
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: a little positive for Deion there. They'll lose by less
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: than 46.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: They have gone 15 games against Power Fours without scoring
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: more than 24 points.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: How do you do that in college football? That's a
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: great question. Ohio State and Indiana. I don't know what
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: the lines are in any of this, right? But if
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: you can bet stacks here, Ohio State right now, 109th
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: in sack rate. They're not sacking the quarterbacks like they
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: were last year. They come back this week. I've got
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: Ohio State over two and a half sacks. I don't
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: know if you can bet on this anywhere. You probably
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: could on that one, right? Probably.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, again, there's just so many college games, but
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: that is the marquee game.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: You like that one? I like that one. Over two
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: and a half sacks for Ohio State. They're 109th in
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: sack rate. Welcome back, Ohio State's past rushes. BYU, Notre Dame. BYU,
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: by the way, 23-9 Kalani and Satake against the spread.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: They're really a covering machine. BYU is. Ten and a
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: half this week. I don't know who covers what in
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: this one, but I don't think BYU can go over
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: 17.5 their team total. So give me BYU under their
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: team total 17.5. I don't think they score a lot
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: of points against Notre Dame.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: Man, Satake has just done such a good job with
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: this program. They're 28-4 of their last 32.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: Games straight up. Pump that music. He's jamming. Pump it up.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: Just let it ride. Let it eat. Wisconsin-UCLA. This is
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: going to be such bad offensive football. I'm going to
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: take under one and a half total offensive touchdowns in
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: this game. Combine both teams. You'll get one offensive touchdown.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: The whole game? The whole game. Both teams combined. Under
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: one and a half. That's a prop that you won't
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: be able to get either. Well, you just bet the
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: under at that point, right? What is the total in
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: that game? I think it's still in the 40s. I'll
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: tell you here in one sec. Florida, by the way.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: Getting ready to play who? Florida's playing Texas. They're choosing Texas.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: Florida and Texas. Five times they were sacked last week.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: Two interceptions. Uh-huh.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to see.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: Was Florida that had the five sacks and the two interceptions?
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: Who did Florida play last week? Last week, Florida got
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: beat by South Carolina.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: Oh, no.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: They gave up the five sacks. It was Arch that
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: gave up five sacks and two interceptions. That's correct. Arch
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: gets sacked zero times this week. Oh, I would agree
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: with that one. Over, under a half.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: Arch, zero sacks.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 4: Take the under.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: Florida's defense is on a historically bad trend right now. Yeah,
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: these are so wild, I'll stop writing them down. No sacks. Arch,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: no sacks this week.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: Malachi Toney, back on the main stage. Miami against Florida State.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: Malachi Toney, I'm good with him up to 199 and
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: a half yards 200 more or more receiving yards for
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: Malachi Tony I don't know what the prop is I
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: don't know what the total is man I'm taking Malachi
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: Tony over 200 so last week against Maryland And this
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: was a big deal.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: I was listening to the V-CIN guys, and I think
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: Jeremiah Smith's prop was like 140 receiving yards against Maryland.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: They were like, that is massive. But, like, you don't
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: want to play under. Malachi Tony at 200. Well, Jim's
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: got it at 199.5. I'm good to 199.5. So anywhere
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: at 199.5, play the over because I'm good 200-plus. I
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: kind of like that play, to be honest with you.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, Florida State's defense last week against Louisville was terrible.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: I've got two more, and then I'll recap for you.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: I've got an Alabama-Tennessee this week. Deshaun Bishop averaging 113
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: yards rushing. Yep. Last week, Georgia's number, I'll point it
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: out for the Georgia folks, number three running back, number
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: four running back, ran through Alabama like you know what
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: through a 10 horn.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: Uh-huh.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: Deshaun Bishop under 100 yards rushing in the Alabama game.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: Whatever the prop is, I'm good up to 99.5 of
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: playing the under rushing yards for Deshaun Bishop. He's averaging
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: 113 the game. Deshaun Bishop under 100. And then the
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: last one of the righteous... That'll be a blowout, by
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: the way.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: If Deshaun Bishop is under 100 yards, Alabama will win
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: by double digits going away.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: The last one involves Mississippi State hosting LSU. Your thoughts
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: on the Mississippi State quarterback situation? I think we will
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: see a guy that we've never seen before. He came
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: in against Alabama, the Puckett kid. Good bologna sandwich in Franklin, Nashville.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: Not a good quarterback in Starkville at Puckett's. I take
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: LSU's defense. Combination, if you put the sacks and the interceptions.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: Put them together. Combination. I'm good all the way up
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: to nine and a half in that one. Ten combination
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: sacks and interceptions for LSU in this game. Combination sacks
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: and interceptions. Ten or more for LSU. My God.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: That's a righteous Jim Stone lock.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: Interceptions and sacks.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: Giving them away like a Pez machine in Starkville this weekend.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: Those are the righteous Jim Stone locks. If you stopped
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: writing them down.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 3: For any reason.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: They got absurd, he said. I can't even read them anymore.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: That's your righteous Jim Stone locks for the week. We
• 1:11:28
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• 1:11:30
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  Speaker 1: Where were you the last time Indiana lost a football game?
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  Speaker 1: So they're on an unbelievable streak.
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  Speaker 3: Indiana.
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  Speaker 1: This record, they've researched it back 50 years. It was 2024,
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: by the way. Yeah, 50 years they've researched. I don't
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: know if we didn't have point spreads before 50 years
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: ago or what, but they've gone back 50 years. Indiana's
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: the first home dog in 50 years to have a
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: 20-game win streak or more and be a home dog
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: while still in the middle of that win streak. And
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: this should tell you, Everything you need to know. I
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: cannot believe you've got Indiana written on that board right there.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: I can't believe you would go against Cignetti. It's Ohio
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: freaking State. But has Ohio State impressed you this year? No,
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: but they're Ohio State. And that's why they're favored. That's
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: the only reason they're favored. That's not the only reason.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: That is the only reason they're favored.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 4: Favorite.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: The only reason that Vegas has Ohio state favorite is
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: because the name Ohio state Vegas does not look at that.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: And so you, I mean, look, they've got a ton
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: of talent, no doubt, but I'm just saying if it
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: was anybody else, it's because it is that brand.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: When you say has Ohio state impressed you this year?
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: Ohio State's had one bad quarter all year, basically. I mean,
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: they have not blown me away. I'm not saying that, but...
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, they were pretty mid in those first three quarters.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: They built a nice lead, but Texas is very vanilla, too.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: They are, but Ohio State, who else have they played
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: other than Texas? Well, they played Illinois, who's not any good.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: At Iowa, to me, that was much more impressive... I
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: shouldn't say much more impressive. Just the way they dominated Iowa.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: They won, what, 31-14? 31-14. And that was in Iowa City,
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: so that's a difficult game.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: That's a good win. Yeah, it's a very good win.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: The Texas loss, though. That was one bad quarter. It
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: was a terrible quarter. It was a terrible quarter. I
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: don't disagree with that. To Lance's point, Indiana brings the,
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: how can I say this, the most consistent, talented offense.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: They've played so far, Ohio State.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: Because Iowa doesn't have a consistent offense. Texas definitely doesn't
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: have a consistent offense. So as far as consistency with talent,
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: Indiana is the biggest. They did not show consistency last
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: week against Nebraska. And that's why I was going to
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: bring this up, though.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: I wonder, and not that you want to play with fire,
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: because they were down 17-6 in that fourth quarter, but
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: it's almost like when I was watching them, I was
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: blown away with how bad the offense was for the
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: first three quarters. Like, how vanilla were they? Were they
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: maybe looking ahead already? It almost bit them in the ass.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: As you know, I picked Nebraska, and that's part of
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: why I did, because I thought they would struggle looking
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: ahead to the Ohio State game. That was part of
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: what factored into me picking Nebraska to win that game. Now,
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: I can't say, Lance, if that was for certain or
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: if maybe their offense just isn't as good as it
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: was last year. And that's certainly a possibility. Look, they
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: got two great receivers. Josh Hoover hasn't been what I
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: thought he would be, but he's been really good. But
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, still, if.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: This was anybody else not following Mendoza, he has completed
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: over 68% of his passes. For over 1,300 yards, 17 touchdowns,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: and zero turnovers.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what else you want.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: It hasn't looked aesthetically like we saw last year with
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: the guy that won the Heisman Trophy. But I think
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: Charlie Becker and Nick Marsh could have big games against
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: this Ohio State defense. And I do think this is
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: the moment for Josh Hoover. This is why we paid
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: you a lot of money to come in and be
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: our quarterback. And not just the win streak of Indiana.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: There's another streak of college football going on right now
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: happening this weekend. Kansas State, in that rivalry game with Kansas,
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: has won 17 straight in the rivalry game.
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  Speaker 1: Did you know that?
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Kansas has had some good moments here recently. I did
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: not know it had gotten that bad. So the Sunflower,
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: is it the Sunflower Showdown?
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: The Sunflower Showdown, the 124th edition coming up. But yeah,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: 17 straight.
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  Speaker 3: That's crazy. 17 straight.
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  Speaker 1: Ron Prince was the coach of Kansas State the last
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: time they won. But more importantly, the Marvel movie series,
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: Marvel Comics, only had two movies in the Marvel Universe
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: the last time that Kansas won this game. The iPad
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: did not exist the last time that Kansas won this game.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: Let's see what else. I got one for you.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: OK, just to put in college football terms, Colin Klein,
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: the head coach at Kansas State, was a redshirt freshman
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: the last time.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: A redshirt freshman quarterback. George W. Bush was the president. GTA.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: It was GTA four had come out the last time.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: What is it, six now? Yeah, GTA 4 looks old, too,
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: if you.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 4: Go back and look at that.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: That was the last time Kansas won. Breaking Bad was
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: in its first season when Kansas won this game last.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: Long time ago. Nobody had even met Gus Fring. Steph
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: Curry was still in college the last time Kansas. I'm
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: going to show this to Brown, but I'm not going
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: to say it out loud. I'll show it to you.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: That's true. That is true. It's facts. Instagram didn't exist
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: the last time Kansas won this game. And Dark Knight
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: was the highest grossing movie in the theaters the last
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: time Kansas won this rivalry. It's been a while. They
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: got a shot here, but I don't feel good about it.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: Who do you think owns the– real quick.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: Who do you think owns the– series oh Kansas lifetime
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: oh really yeah because Kansas State used to be one
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: of the worst teams ever what is Kansas yeah it's
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: pretty close I saw it it's pretty close 64 54
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: and 5 Kansas does have a 10 game advantage.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: There Kansas State was always one of those teams in
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: my dad's playboy that the football edition that would come
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: out before the season that I would only read for
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: the football articles would have the 10 worst teams in
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: college football and kansas state was always until bill snyder
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: woke him up yeah all right clay travis joins us
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: now founder of sport and state you see him on
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: fox sports uh big nude kick clay and buck coming
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: up right after we are finished here on sport and
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: state what is up clay how are you today I'm
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: doing well.
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  Speaker 3: How are y'all?
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: We're doing fantastic. Thanks a lot. Let's start with your
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: Tennessee volunteers. They take on Alabama this week. George McIntyre,
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: reported by Chris Lowe, among others, is going to start
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: this game, his second start. You watched him against Arkansas.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: How do you feel about McIntyre starting against the Tide
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: in Knoxville?
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 3: Well, if he turns the ball over three times, Tennessee's
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 3: going to be in trouble, and that's what he did
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 3: at Arkansas. But on the positive side, he made a
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 3: lot of really good throws, I thought. Now, It was
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 3: against Arkansas. And my standard for play in the SEC
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 3: is pretty low after how bad Faison Brandon was to
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 3: start the game against Texas. And then, frankly, Tennessee was
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 3: almost unable to throw the ball at all in the
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 3: game against Auburn, which I'm sure a lot of people watched.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 3: I think this Tennessee team is not that dissimilar from
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 3: the 2024 Tennessee team when Nico was a first-year starter
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 3: and the defense led the way. Uh, I think defensively
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 3: Tennessee is pretty good. You know, one of the three
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 3: or four best defenses, I think in the sec, uh,
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 3: if at quarterback, they can just get game manager style play,
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 3: which is what Nico did. Uh, then I think they
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 3: can beat a lot of people. Um, if they turn
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 3: the ball over, uh, then I think they can lose
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 3: to a lot of people. So I still say, look,
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 3: I think it's unfortunate for Tennessee. If Joey Aguilar were
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 3: back this year, uh, I think Tennessee would almost certainly
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 3: be a playoff team. And I think they'd be undefeated
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 3: right now because mediocre quarterback play against Texas would have
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 3: gotten Tennessee the win a couple of weeks ago in
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 3: Neyland for that game. And so I think if Tennessee
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 3: is going to have a chance to win, then this
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 3: will be a low-scoring, defensive-style game, not that much different
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 3: than what we saw in the Georgia game, and not
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 3: that much different than what we saw in Neyland a
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: couple of years ago. And so that's kind of the
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: way I'm on the under in this game. I think
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 3: Tennessee's defense will have some success. And I think Tennessee's
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 3: offense will struggle. And if you told me one team
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 3: is going to get to 28, I would feel pretty
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 3: good about that team's chances to win. Even 24, I
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 3: think could be a winnable number in this game.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: Clay, I agree.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: If Joey Aguilar was your starting quarterback, Tennessee probably would
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: be undefeated. But I still think Aguilar is a C-plus quarterback.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: I never thought he was great. Last season, he was solid.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: With all that said, go back to Joe Milton. You've
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: got to go to Hendon Hooker the last time Josh
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: Heupel had an elite quarterback. It's just strange because there's
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: so many elite quarterbacks, or really, really good quarterbacks, I
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: shouldn't say elite, that are coming through college football. You've
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: got one of those guys at Missouri right now. I'm
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: just blown away that Josh Heupel hasn't really gotten quarterback right.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're correct. And not only, remember, he got Hendon
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 3: Hooker wrong because Joe Milton won the job that year.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 3: And then Joe Milton came out and performed poorly. Hendon
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 3: Hooker came in, played the rest of that year, and
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 3: then obviously was very, very good in 2022. And so
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 3: it certainly is unexpected that Tennessee would be as good
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 3: defensively as they have often been over the past several years.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 3: And as, you know, middle of the road as they
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 3: have been offensively, considering Heupel was supposed to be an
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 3: offensive guy when he got this job. And I think
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 3: it's also the case that I think it's five straight
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 3: years Josh Heupel has had a new quarterback. There's been
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 3: no continuity at all. And I think that factors in
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 3: quite a bit. Hendon Hooker in 2022 was the last
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 3: time Tennessee had a returning quarterback who started the year before.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 3: So you're talking about 23, 24, 25, 26, and then
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 3: obviously in 22, five different quarterbacks basically in five different years.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: Listen, nobody likes to be told what to do, Clay.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: But the ACC, the Big 12, the Big 10, everybody
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: lets us listen to replay now. You're very tight with
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: the commissioner and the SEC offices. Do you think there's
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: any movement on allowing us to listen to instant replay,
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: like why there was no targeting called on Ryan Coleman
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: Williams this past weekend against Georgia? And then what about
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: some kind of statement or availability of the white hat
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: in postgame? like occasionally happens in the NFL, do you
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: think that is something that is needed in college football?
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 3: I think anytime you can provide more honest, real-time audio
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: and or video... the better it is because that helps
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 3: to tamp down on the idea that there's some sort
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 3: of fix in. I think what generally happens is humans
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 3: are imperfect and they screw up. You know, the back
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 3: judge missed that call on the pass interference. Dunaway, you
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 3: and I ref the a day game, I don't know, seven, eight,
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 3: 10 years ago, whatever it's been now. Uh, and you
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 3: remember that I missed a pretty egregious pass interference call.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 3: I wasn't, you know, in the tank for the, the,
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 3: the red team or the white team in the a
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 3: day game. I just screwed it up. Right. And, um,
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 3: to me, that is a part of the game. I,
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 3: I do think, uh, the targeting question, I still think
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 3: Alabama intercepted the ball. You know, at the 24 early
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 3: in the third quarter, if I remember correctly, you guys
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 3: probably remember the exact time in the game better than
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 3: I do. But I don't know how you had incontrovertible
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 3: evidence to overturn that call, given what was made on
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 3: the field either. So I thought a couple of those
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 3: calls went against Alabama. And and I do think the
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 3: more you can shine a light on how those decisions
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 3: are made and the better it is in general. Now,
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 3: you guys remember the SEC got into a really punitive
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 3: era back when Mike Slive was there and started suspending
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 3: officials for errors that they made in the game. And
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 3: I think the general consensus was that actually made things worse.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 3: because the officials felt like they were getting singled out.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 3: It made a multi-day story out of officiating errors. I
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 3: can tell you without a shadow of a doubt, Greg
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 3: Sankey is a good friend, but every commissioner that I've
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 3: ever met in big games, they say they only root
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 3: for one group, the officials, because They don't want to
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 3: have to deal with the controversy that comes out of
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 3: a call that should or should not have been made.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 3: A game that's decided by the players and the coaches
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 3: on the field is what every commissioner wants beyond a
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 3: shadow of a doubt.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: Because I've always said, look, officials, I don't know why
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: they can't face the media just like coaches and players
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: have to, right? I know they're not getting paid the
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: same amount and all that, but if the head official
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: did a press conference after every game, I've never understood
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: why that's an issue. I really don't.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 3: I think sometimes it's a fear of.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 3: A lot of people are not used to getting grilled
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 3: by media. And who's going to watch that? Nobody's going
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 3: to watch it, but you don't think the Alabama media
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 3: that covers Alabama would have wanted to ask the head official,
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 3: can you explain to us why the penalty wasn't called?
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: It should almost be like a White House pool.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they would have been grilled. I actually
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 3: think what would be better is if they just put
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 3: out a statement. Um, and, uh, I don't know that
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 3: the questions being asked necessarily is necessary. It's pretty clear
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 3: after every game, you know, you could have one guy, uh,
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 3: from each team who is deputized to say, Hey, you
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 3: get to ask two questions of the official. Um, it's
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 3: pretty clear at the end of the game, the questions
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 3: that might be asked. Um, and, uh, I think you
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 3: could allow a written response to it, um, as opposed
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 3: to requiring somebody, I mean, The officials aren't necessarily skilled
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 3: in the art of PR. They might not answer the
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 3: question exactly as you want it to be answered. So
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 3: I understand on some level that's also incredibly intimidating. And
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 3: to your point, I mean, I don't know what the
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 3: average SEC official makes in a year, but I bet
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 3: it's 75 or 80K. And I might be a little
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 3: bit wrong. Maybe it's 120 or something like that relative
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 3: to the amount of pressure they're under. I'm not sure
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 3: there are very many people in America who make less
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 3: and are judged more harshly than college football officials. And certainly, look,
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 3: I mean, I have argued this for a long time.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 3: I think that giving coaches the ability to challenge non-calls
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 3: is actually a good thing to add, right? I mean,
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 3: I've been on this for a long time. I lost,
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 3: you guys may remember $ 30, 000 on the Rams non or
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 3: the Rams pass interference call that they got away with
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 3: against the saints. I'm sure LT still celebrating it. You know,
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 3: I lost $ 30, 000 on that game. So you know, in
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 3: a gambling era, I do think the pressure is ratcheted
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 3: up because in addition to the number of fans out
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 3: there that are big adherents of a particular team, there's
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 3: a lot of money swinging one way or the other.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 3: I mean, I was on Alabama and the over, if
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 3: that pass interference call gets made correctly, I think at
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 3: a minimum, we may well have gone to overtime. Right.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 3: And you start talking about how much money was wagered
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 3: on that game. That flag not being thrown could have swung,
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 3: I don't know, a hundred million dollars in different directions
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 3: based on, based on the outcome. So, Again, in general,
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 3: I'm in favor of trying to be as transparent and
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 3: open as you can be. People will still be upset
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 3: because humans are imperfect. But I think when you're as
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 3: honest and open as you can be, you tend to
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 3: tamp down on some of the nastier conspiracy theories out there.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: That NFC Championship game eight years ago, and you could
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: probably find $ 30, 000 in your couch right now.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: So Lance does not feel bad for you. Different moment
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: in time for you.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 2: Hey, have you seen Saban, any of the docuseries right
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: now on ESPN?
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 3: I've only seen the clips. I saw the clip. I
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 3: haven't had time. In fact, I'm sitting with my 12-year-old
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 3: right now. We should watch that documentary this weekend. Maybe
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 3: we can watch it tonight or tomorrow.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: The reason I bring it up, Clay, look, you're obviously
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 2: well-versed in politics. You talk about it every day with Buck.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: You talk about it right here on Sport and State.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: But the more I watch Saban just do his thing,
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, he could have been a president, right? I mean,
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 2: I know that sounds crazy, but there is no doubt
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: that he could run– any and all fortune 500 companies
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 2: uh would you have any doubt that he could have
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: been an effective president have you seen some.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 3: Of them no no i mean i've said this before
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 3: i mean i the joke i made is um i
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 3: think the joke i made is what if abraham lincoln
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 3: had been like a college football coach instead of a
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 3: president wouldn't wouldn't you feel like we kind of wasted
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 3: him you know uh I think in some way, I mean,
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 3: it's great that Nick Saban won six national championships. And,
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 3: you know, I mean, for Alabama, University of Alabama and
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 3: the state of Alabama, I mean, he's obviously been very impactful.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 3: But I do think his skill set is such that
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 3: it could have translated into something more. I don't disagree
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 3: with you, LT. I think his skill set is something
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 3: that it could have translated into. into using those talents
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 3: in a way that benefited more people than maybe just
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 3: becoming an expert in how to run a college football program.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 3: And I do wonder, I'd like to see Nick Saban
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 3: ask that question on some level. I mean, I know
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 3: he's hyper-competitive, and obviously he's been interacting with Trump quite
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 3: a lot on the Protect College Sports Act and trying
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 3: to solve some of those issues. I think Saban's answer
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 3: probably and I don't know him personally at all, but
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 3: I think his answer probably would be that he doesn't
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 3: have time to suffer the fools that you have to
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 3: suffer to be a political figure in America. Like he
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 3: knows what the right answer is and he's just going
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 3: to do it. And the fact that you have to
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 3: go out and sell the public on, hey, this is
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 3: what we have to do. This is why we have
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 3: to move things. I think Saban would be a great
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 3: benevolent dictator. I'm not sure that he is somebody who
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 3: wants to be you know, kind of calling senators and
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 3: cajoling them to to support something that he knows is
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 3: a no brainer, basic common sense move that would make
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 3: the country better.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, his Saban's head would explode. The inefficiency in our government,
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: the inefficiency you have to deal with in our government.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: It'd be an incredible reality show.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 3: One of my favorite stories, I was talking to a
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 3: big Alabama booster right after Saban got hired. And they
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 3: were flying on a plane. You guys may have heard
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 3: this guy's story, too. These are guys that give crazy
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 3: amounts of money to the university. They're used to being glad,
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 3: glad handled, you know, chatting, chatted up everything else. Saban
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 3: gets on the plane, private plane going to an event,
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 3: shake hands with everybody, immediately puts on his headset and
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 3: starts looking at game film. was just not going to
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 3: waste the one-hour plane flight just chatting up the guys
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 3: who make all the money and donate all the money
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 3: to the university. He's like, I got a job to do.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 3: My time is limited. I'm not wasting this hour when
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 3: I could be getting better at what my job is.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 3: And I thought that was kind of a perfect Saban story.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 3: And I do think on some level his talents, while...
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 3: really incredible in what he accomplished in college football could
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 3: have been used in a way that would have maybe
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 3: made the country better as opposed to a football team better.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: In your scenario, would Abe Lincoln have stayed in the
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: land of Lincoln and coached the Illini?
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, maybe he would have been the John
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 3: Wooden of Illinois, but it is just kind of a
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 3: funny question, right? Like, skill sets are relatively rare, like Saban's.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 3: You know, it's a reason why CEOs get paid as
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 3: much as they do, because that's a difficult job and
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 3: most people can't do it well. Same thing is true,
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 3: by the way, of college football coaches, lots of different
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 3: jobs out there that have to have a unique skill
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 3: set that isn't readily common. But I do think it's
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 3: kind of kind of funny to to put it in
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 3: that context, because I do think And I don't even
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 3: know what Saban's politics are. I just think he would
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 3: make rational, common sense choices that would benefit the majority
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 3: of Americans.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: But, you know, President Reagan, Ronald Reagan never enters politics.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: He entered politics because his movie career was in decline.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: Like he had to find something else to do. We
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: never would have known that, though. He's a great actor.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 3: I asked President Trump if he had bought an NFL
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 3: franchise like he flirted with doing for a long time.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 3: Do you think he ever would have entered politics? I
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 3: don't think I asked him this in public, but he
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 3: was like, probably not. You know, I mean, but I mean,
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 3: you know, Jerry Jones is a good example of that.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 3: I remember Jerry Jones bought the Cowboys for 140 million 1989.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 3: Everybody said he was crazy. And now the Cowboys probably
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 3: worth 15 or 20 billion dollars. But there's probably an
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 3: alternative multiverse where Jerry Jones doesn't buy the Cowboys. has
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 3: the same sort of garrulous energy and chutzpah, right, and
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 3: ends up running for political office in Texas or Oklahoma
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 3: or Arkansas. And I don't think it's crazy to think
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 3: that Jerry Jones could have been a high-level politician in
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 3: a totally different world.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, here's the crazy one. When President Obama was running
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: for Senate for the first time in Illinois— his Republican
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: opponent got caught in some sort of sex scandal. It's
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: some sort of crazy sex scandal and had to drop
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: out of the race. Clay, do you remember who the
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: Republicans thought they had to replace him?
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 4: Who?
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: Mike Ditka.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 4: Oh, wow.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 3: Oh, wow.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: Apparently Ditko was like, he went up to like the
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: 11th hour considering running as the Republican. He would have
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: wiped the floor with President Obama.
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, that's very funny. Remember, Obama lost his
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 3: congressional campaign. Everybody forgets it. He ran in a Chicago
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 3: inner city district and got crushed, smoked, ended up going,
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 3: you know, being a state senator. And to your point,
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, much of politics... is being in the right
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 3: place at the right time and, you know, catching the
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 3: wave of your political career, being in the right place
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 3: to catch that wave.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: If I remember correctly, President Trump had all the money
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: he needed to own an NFL team when he owned
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: the New Jersey Generals. They just would never, the owners
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: never would have approved him to buy a team, right?
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: He wanted to buy one. They wouldn't, nobody would sell
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: him the team.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there was some element of that. There was also,
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 3: I mean, the truth of the matter is, NFL franchise,
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 3: pro sports franchises in general. This is the president and
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 3: I were talking about this actually. the other day when
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 3: he called me, as one does, all about how much
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 3: professional sports franchises had increased. I had a segment on
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 3: my sports show on FS1 that he had seen. I mean,
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 3: he's a monster sports fan. He wanted to call and
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 3: talk about it. And the whole thing was, my thesis is,
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 3: and I think it's true, that people keep trying to
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 3: value pro sports teams on their earnings and what the
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 3: multiple of the earnings are and all those things. But
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 3: the reality is pro sports franchises are just really expensive
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 3: paintings and they aren't necessarily pegged to any realistic value. Uh,
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 3: you know, how do you justify somebody paying for a
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 3: Van Gogh or somebody paying for, uh, a Da Vinci
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 3: or any of these crazy expensive, uh, portraits that people
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 3: choose to hang on their wall. A lot of it
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 3: is just super rich guys decide that they want an
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 3: asset that is a trophy so that other people can
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 3: see that they have the ability to do it. And
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 3: so in many ways, pro sports franchises are just super
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 3: expensive paintings that rich guys can hang on their wall
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 3: and say like, hey, This is my team. And check
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 3: it out. And that's why they're not necessarily pegged to
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 3: any particular valuation relative to the earnings. Most of these
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 3: teams don't make that much money in terms of comparing
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 3: them to big business. But obviously the cachet and the
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 3: social capital of owning a franchise like this is something
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 3: that attracts super rich guys.
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: All right, Clay Travis, you'll see him on Big New Kick,
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: see him on Fox. And Clay and Buck, follow us
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: right here on Sport and State.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 3: And by the way, you guys have a cool show.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 3: We're kind of cross-pollinating some tomorrow, right?
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: In Gatlinburg at the Tennessee Shine Company Tasting Room. It's
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: right there on the main strip in Gatlinburg. And Withrow
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: is out of town, so Lance and I are going
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: to be up there. We're going to co-host a little
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: bit with Hutton on the early show. and then do
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: some Friday work with him as well, previewing Alabama-Tennessee. So, yeah,
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: we'll be there.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 3: And by the way, for anybody who is going to
• 1:37:50
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• 1:38:08
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• 1:38:11
  Speaker 3: Bama fans will be betting on Tennessee.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: I didn't think about that. So if you're an Alabama
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: fan driving to the game, going to the game, as
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• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: got new copy points the next two days yeah.
• 1:38:32
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• 1:38:38
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• 1:38:41
  Speaker 3: state for the weekend There you go.
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: It's going to be football weather up there, too. Nice
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: and cold in the 40s.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 3: It should be awesome. I'm excited. Alabama in their reds,
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 3: Tennessee in their oranges. It hasn't happened since the 1970s,
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 3: I think, if I'm correct, in Neyland. Both teams get
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 3: to wear the home uniform, so it should be a
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 3: pretty awesome sort of spectacle on Saturday afternoon in Neyland.
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: All right, Clay, thank you. Have a great weekend.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 3: Hey, y'all too. Appreciate it.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: All right, buddy. Clay Travis with us on Sporting State.
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  Speaker 4: Why not?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: and more going to be exposed to that without you
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: around to help them through it. So I use it
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  Speaker 1: as a teaching moment and whatever message you want to
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  Speaker 1: send them in relation.
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  Speaker 3: To that thing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't know. Like, what are you trying?
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  Speaker 2: Like, what are you educating them on what the product
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  Speaker 2: is or like this is a hot half dress girl?
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  Speaker 1: Like probably both. I would say at that point, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you know, whatever it is that you think. Or you
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  Speaker 1: just break out the birds and the bee book at
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  Speaker 1: that point. I mean, depending on the age. I don't
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: know how old his son is. If he's calling him Dada,
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  Speaker 1: probably pretty young. Yeah, but I guess you don't want
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  Speaker 1: to be forced to early birds and bees while you're
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: trying to watch game three of a championship series.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a tough time to have that. Yeah, well,
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  Speaker 2: I get that. And then birds and the bees to
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 2: Megan Fox. What's she promoting?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, not the birds or the bees. Yeah, the birds
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: get old, son.
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  Speaker 2: I've seen a lot of complaints about the prevalence of
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 2: horror movie commercials during.
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  Speaker 1: The games as well. I mean, to some degree, I
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  Speaker 1: understand it all. But to the people that broadcast the
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  Speaker 1: games trying to make money, I understand their side of
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  Speaker 1: it too. It's a tough balance. And again, I would
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  Speaker 1: just say as a parent, if I were to give
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  Speaker 1: parental advice, it's irrational to think that your child is
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  Speaker 1: not going to be exposed to absolutely everything this world
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  Speaker 1: has to offer. It's on you as a parent to
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  Speaker 1: educate them on how you think they should make those choices.
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: Final 90 seconds of the show, TV ratings this past week.
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  Speaker 1: Monster game, second most watched game of the year, Georgia
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: and Alabama. 12.24 million people watched Georgia and Alabama. That's
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: behind only Texas, Ohio State. You know, I told you,
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 1: and I'm not going to be, yeah, probably so. I
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: told you I was going to have the number to
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  Speaker 1: compare that to last year's game because you're fearing that
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: TV numbers are dropping. We'll do that in the next show.
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: By the time we start the second half here, I'll
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: have that number. Second most watched game of the season. Texas-Oklahoma,
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: by the way, very healthy, 9.82 million people. The third
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: was Indiana-Nebraska, 6.73. Those numbers seem to be a little
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: more healthier than what we saw last year. The two
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: previous weeks were barely 6 million people were my concern,
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: and some of them were big-name games. So a very
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: healthy number, though, for Georgia and Alabama, the first of
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: what I would imagine Alabama fans hope for at least
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: two meetings with the Georgia Bulldogs coming up this year.
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  Speaker 1: All right, when we come back on the other side,
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: if you're sticking with us on the next round on
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: all of our platforms, we will get into Alabama basketball
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  Speaker 1: tonight with an exhibition game against Ole Miss in Birmingham.
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  Speaker 1: What we expect from them, how concerned should you be
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: if you're an Auburn basketball fan. We'll talk about filling
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: the hole of Ryan Coleman-Williams, who is out this weekend
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: for Alabama, and what is a step forward for Auburn
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: football if winning is off the table this weekend. What
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: are you looking for for Auburn at Georgia? That's all
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: coming up on the next round's second half. But for
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: those of you on Sporting State, y'all have a great day.