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The Bolt Report | 23 October · The Bolt Report

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  Speaker 1: Kids. He's the Reform.
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  Speaker 2: Well. Good evening and welcome to the Bolt Report. I'm
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  Speaker 2: James Macpherson coming up tonight. The Prime Minister's back in
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  Speaker 2: Australia today, riding high after his better than expected meeting
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  Speaker 2: with President Trump. But what exactly did Albaneze get for Australia.
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  Speaker 3: From that trip.
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  Speaker 2: I'll put that question to Andrew Bolt in just a moment,
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  Speaker 2: and I'll be joined by the man who dominated headlines
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  Speaker 2: at the start of the week after suggestions he could
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  Speaker 2: be about to join One Nation. Former Deputy Prime Minister
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  Speaker 2: Barnaby Joyce will be with me in a moment. Also
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  Speaker 2: coming up, the e Safety Commissioner pressures the Coalition to
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  Speaker 2: drop calls for an inquiry into her extraordinary powers. I'll
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  Speaker 2: talk about that with my panel and I'll catch up
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  Speaker 2: with Patrick Christie's in the UK about how things are
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  Speaker 2: going from bad to worse, replied Minister Keir Starmer. All
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  Speaker 2: of that soon, but first I have to ask what
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  Speaker 2: on earth is wrong with Victorian magistrates.
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  Speaker 3: I asked that in.
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  Speaker 2: The same tone you might use to ask what's wrong
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  Speaker 2: with the plumbing, because clearly something's leaking and it stinks.
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  Speaker 3: Last night, three teenagers.
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  Speaker 2: Were charged over a violent machete attack outside Melbourne's Lunar
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  Speaker 2: Park and yet given bail. One of the boys released
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  Speaker 2: back onto the streets is suspected of two other offenses
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  Speaker 2: involving machetes. Magistrate Felicity Broughton called the allegations quote extremely
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  Speaker 2: serious and then unbelievably in my opinion, told the accused
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  Speaker 2: he was free to go home. Make it make sense,
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  Speaker 2: because I certainly can't. Maybe it's one of those abstract
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  Speaker 2: modern art pieces, you know, the kind where you're told
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  Speaker 2: it's brilliant, but all you see is absolute nonsense. This kid,
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  Speaker 2: Abbas Masrahwi was one of three boys charged over an
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  Speaker 2: alleged machete attack on Sunday afternoon.
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  Speaker 4: A fight between two groups inside Lunar Park has ended
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  Speaker 4: in a terrifying machete attack in the heart of Saint Kilda.
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  Speaker 4: Jordan Quinn is there and Jordan this all played out
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  Speaker 4: in front of stunned witnesses.
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  Speaker 3: Mitch.
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  Speaker 5: It was a busy night here at the park. Big
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  Speaker 5: crowds were also piling into the Palais Theater to see
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  Speaker 5: an American comedian. When a man armed with a machete
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  Speaker 5: slashed two teenagers during a fight on Cavell Street.
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  Speaker 2: A machete attack at four point thirty pm right outside
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  Speaker 2: Lunar Park as families were trying to enjoy the sunshine
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  Speaker 2: without being sliced like Shashimi. Magistrate Felicity brought and told
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  Speaker 2: the teenager he should be thankful more serious injuries were
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  Speaker 2: not inflicted on the three alleged victims, who all suffered lacerations.
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  Speaker 2: I imagine the alleged victims were also thankful that more
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  Speaker 2: serious injuries weren't inflicted. Honestly, as fed up as we
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  Speaker 2: are with youth crime, I think it's time we got
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  Speaker 2: fed up with magistrates who time and time again appear
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  Speaker 2: to sit in their ivory towers oblivious to the youth
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  Speaker 2: crime they're supposed to be dealing with. Why would any
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  Speaker 2: court grant bail to any teenager accused of violent offenses.
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  Speaker 3: It's absolutely beyond me.
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  Speaker 2: In this case, looking at a nineteen year old who
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  Speaker 2: was allegedly involved in a machete attack right outside Luda
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  Speaker 2: Park before allegedly escaping in a car that was then
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  Speaker 2: involved in an accident after which he allegedly absconded, Felicity
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  Speaker 2: brought and told him and I quote, you need to
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  Speaker 2: grow up fast and have a bit of insight. I
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  Speaker 2: have questions for our judicial system, and I think it's
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  Speaker 2: fair to ask when will our courts start focusing on
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  Speaker 2: protecting the public. Most people won't care what age an
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  Speaker 2: alleged defender is if he or she are accused of
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  Speaker 2: a violent offense, and right now many of those seem
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  Speaker 2: to involve machetes. Shouldn't that be a red flashing light?
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  Speaker 2: If they're a teenager, will surely better to deal with
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  Speaker 2: it now, head on, not wait until they're in their
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  Speaker 2: twenties or thirties. At what age should we expect this
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  Speaker 2: special insight to kick in? According to court reporters who
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  Speaker 2: were present, magistrate brought and told the accused how dispirited
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  Speaker 2: his parents.
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  Speaker 3: Would have been by his behavior. Spare me.
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  Speaker 2: Can someone please tell Victorian magistrates they're sitting at the
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  Speaker 2: bench to dispense justice, not to provide family therapy, Your honor,
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  Speaker 2: if I may, you're not his guidance counselor you're supposed
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  Speaker 2: to be the consequences department. This nineteen year old was
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  Speaker 2: told that when his parents immigrated to Australia from Iran,
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  Speaker 2: they would not have expected him to end up in
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  Speaker 2: court will boohoo, how about the expectation of every Australian
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  Speaker 2: that when the now nineteen year old was welcomed into
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  Speaker 2: our country, we would not have expected him to be
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  Speaker 2: running around Melbourne allegedly attacking people with a machete. The
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  Speaker 2: court justified its decision to grant bail because of the
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  Speaker 2: teenager's age. It was nineteen, it was his first time
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  Speaker 2: in custody, and there were some delays in the justice system.
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  Speaker 2: But honestly, Victorians have had enough of courts failing to
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  Speaker 2: meet community expectations when it comes to dealing with people
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  Speaker 2: charged with violent crimes.
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  Speaker 3: Premier just sent to allen let.
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  Speaker 2: Us all to believe that officials understood community outrage, had
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  Speaker 2: listened to the outcry, and we're now going to make
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  Speaker 2: judgments that reflected the way in which I don't know
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  Speaker 2: normal people would think.
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  Speaker 6: As we've introduced new legislation, take the tough new by
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  Speaker 6: laws we have here in Victoria and make them even tougher.
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  Speaker 6: We've done this because we've been listening, listening to victims
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  Speaker 6: of crime, understanding the Victorians are disgusted with repeat serious offending.
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  Speaker 6: The Victorians are rightly concerned about communities well, so am I.
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  Speaker 6: That's why we've put community safety first for all bail decisions,
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  Speaker 6: and we're making Victoria's tough by a laws even tougher
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  Speaker 6: with the changes we've brought to the Victorian Parliament today.
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  Speaker 3: You've been listening with a tin ear.
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  Speaker 2: Promises like that ring hollow in the face of decisions
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  Speaker 2: like the one last night. Police told the court that
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  Speaker 2: just two weeks ago, this teenager was suspected of putting
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  Speaker 2: him achette into the face of a woman, and when
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  Speaker 2: served with a court order preventing him from going near
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  Speaker 2: the woman again, it's alleged the young man laughed and giggled.
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  Speaker 2: Magistrate brought and says, the alleged defender needs to gain
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  Speaker 2: some insight. Let me offer the Victorian judiciary a little insight.
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  Speaker 2: Many people bought before the court regard the court.
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  Speaker 3: System as a joke. But see this is a different
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  Speaker 3: kind of joke.
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  Speaker 2: It's the one where the alleged defender laughs so hard
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  Speaker 2: everyone else ends up in stitches. And the alleged defender
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  Speaker 2: they can afford to laugh, can't they, because they're the
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  Speaker 2: ones armed with machetes. The rest of us or we're
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  Speaker 2: just taking our chances. Every time we venture into the CBD.
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  Speaker 2: Police said the accused had been given an infringement noticed
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  Speaker 2: last year for carrying a machete down his pants, and
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  Speaker 2: in March he was cautioned for concealing a large knife
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  Speaker 2: in his pants. Police also said he was suspected of
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  Speaker 2: involvement in that massive machete brawl at broad Meadow shopping
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  Speaker 2: Center earlier this month, where members of the public were
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  Speaker 2: made to run for their lives. Police told the court
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  Speaker 2: this young man had no concern for public safety, that
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  Speaker 2: it was only a matter of time until someone was
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  Speaker 2: killed in a machete attack, and there are now people
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  Speaker 2: so traumatized by machete attacks they're too afraid to go
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  Speaker 2: out in their own city. Magistrate brought and agreed, agreed
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  Speaker 2: that it was serious, saying, quote, young men acting and
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  Speaker 2: behaving like this are a high risk to the community.
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  Speaker 2: And then she told the young man he could go
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  Speaker 2: back home, albeit with strict bail conditions. Get picked up again.
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  Speaker 2: You won't be getting bail, She told him, Well, that'll
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  Speaker 2: teach him. And just in case you thought this was
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  Speaker 2: an isolated event, two other alleged machete wielding teams from
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  Speaker 2: the same alleged attack were also granted bail by a
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  Speaker 2: different magistrate. A youth justice worker described one of the
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  Speaker 2: alleged machetey attackers as and I'm quoting, very polite when
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  Speaker 2: she assessed his suitability for a knife crime education program.
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  Speaker 2: He was polite when assessed for the education program. I'm
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  Speaker 2: just wondering if he was polite when allegedly slashing his victims.
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  Speaker 2: And forgive me, but what is a knife crime education program?
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  Speaker 3: What are they learn?
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to machete manners one oh one. Knives are sharp.
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  Speaker 2: Try not to poke them in people, because if you do,
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  Speaker 2: will you'll be made to I don't know, come back
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  Speaker 2: and repeat this course. Honestly, I give up. I think
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  Speaker 2: a lot of Victorians have as well.
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  Speaker 7: Well.
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  Speaker 2: The rest of Victoria's sleeps behind locked doors, our magistrates.
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  Speaker 2: I think they sleep pretty soundly under the soft doner
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  Speaker 2: of ideology. And I hope they do sleep well because
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  Speaker 2: they're the only ones who can afford to Jacinta Allen
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  Speaker 2: keeps saying Victoria has a machete problem, Well do they?
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  Speaker 2: Or do they have a magistrate problem? Joining me now
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  Speaker 2: is Sky News host Andrew Bolt. Andrew, thanks for joining
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  Speaker 2: me tonight. It's great to see you, and you're back
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  Speaker 2: hosting the program on Monday night, which I think a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people looking forward to, and I'm sure you're
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  Speaker 2: anxious to get back as well.
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  Speaker 7: Absolutely, mate. I got to say you're editorial. I mean,
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  Speaker 7: I know that the first of those two magistrates you
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  Speaker 7: mentioned was in charge. It was a part of a
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  Speaker 7: committee of overseeing the magistracy in Victoria that's in charge
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  Speaker 7: of therapeutic jurisprudence sort of you know, focused on the
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  Speaker 7: offender rather than on the victims.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, and that seems to be the way things are
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  Speaker 2: going anyway. Everyone's looking forward to having you back on Monday.
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  Speaker 2: It's great to see you and next week will be fantastic.
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  Speaker 2: I want to talk to you about Prime Minister Anthony
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  Speaker 2: Albanesi arriving back in Australia today after what many have
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  Speaker 2: hailed as a diplomatic triumph at his meeting with Trump.
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  Speaker 2: But Andrew You argued in The Herald's Son that while
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  Speaker 2: it might have been a success for Albanzi personally, the
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  Speaker 2: outcome for Australia is not quite as rosy as many
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  Speaker 2: would have us believe.
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  Speaker 7: Well, it was a lot of give to the US
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  Speaker 7: and not quite as much. Get I hadn't looked at
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  Speaker 7: the usmbers in Canberra, and it's put on its website
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  Speaker 7: a press release about this thing. And the way it reads,
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  Speaker 7: I mean, just the headline alone tells you everything. It
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  Speaker 7: says fact sheet President Donald J. Trump closes billion dollar
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  Speaker 7: deals with Australia. They think they're making a motster out
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  Speaker 7: of us. And when you look at it, I mean
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  Speaker 7: the gift that we've got. We're going to spend six
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  Speaker 7: billion dollars on weaponry over there, which the US Embassy
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  Speaker 7: boast is going to help people in Texas, Florida, Arkansas,
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  Speaker 7: and Alabama. We're going to give them another billion dollars
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  Speaker 7: to help them make submarines in America, of which we
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  Speaker 7: hope three might come to Australia, but there was no
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  Speaker 7: guarantee of that the superannuation funds in Australia. This is
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  Speaker 7: still the embassy boasting in this deal. They're going to
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  Speaker 7: devote one billion, one trillion, excuse me, one trillion dollars
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  Speaker 7: to the US. They're going to invest in the US
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  Speaker 7: and US jobs over the next decade or so. And
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  Speaker 7: it's supposed to that they've got more access to you
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  Speaker 7: to Australian markets us BF and you're going to ask
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  Speaker 7: what did we get in exchange for all this, Well,
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  Speaker 7: not much. US in Australia together are going to invest
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  Speaker 7: three billion dollars in critical minerals. That might some of
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  Speaker 7: that investment might stay in America though, And the US
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  Speaker 7: Department of War is going to invest in a gallium
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  Speaker 7: factory in Western Australia. That's it. There was no change
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  Speaker 7: in tariffs. You know, the Trump is imposes to extra
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  Speaker 7: tariffs once, particularly aluminium steel, no cun in that just
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  Speaker 7: to guarantee that, yes, not even a guarantee. Trump said, oh,
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  Speaker 7: you know, we'll get you your three nuclear submarines. We'll
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  Speaker 7: give them to you. This is part of a deal
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  Speaker 7: that's going to cost US three hundred and sixty eight
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  Speaker 7: billion dollars. So I don't know, mate, It seems to
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  Speaker 7: me an awful lot of give just to have Trump
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  Speaker 7: say to Alban easy, you're a great prime minister.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think that was the point, wasn't it. That's
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  Speaker 2: what the Prime minister wanted from this trip. He wanted
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  Speaker 2: a commendation from Trump. And I tell you what, it's
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  Speaker 2: causing all sorts of problems for the Coalition. I never
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  Speaker 2: imagined trump slapdown of Kevin Rudd was going to end
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  Speaker 2: up as a problem for Susan Lee, but it seems
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  Speaker 2: to be. She said on Tuesday Rudd should be sacked
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  Speaker 2: after that embarrassing interaction.
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  Speaker 3: But now our own backbenches have.
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  Speaker 2: Turned on her, and can you believe it they're supporting
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  Speaker 2: Kevin Rudd.
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  Speaker 3: You had Jane Hume yesterday calling Lee's.
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  Speaker 2: Call for Rudd to be replaced as churlish, and today
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  Speaker 2: Andrew Hasty has insisted there's no need for Rudd to
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  Speaker 2: go anywhere.
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  Speaker 8: Andrew Hasty, we all make unwise comments, but he copped
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  Speaker 8: it on the chin for the country and we don't
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  Speaker 8: need to relive the humiliation.
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  Speaker 4: Trolling Israel and ambassador was good TV, but in the
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  Speaker 4: end Kevin Rudd copped it on the chin for the
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  Speaker 4: country and we move forward.
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  Speaker 2: So, Andrew, what do you make of all of that?
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  Speaker 2: I just can't believe this has become a problem for
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  Speaker 2: the coalition.
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  Speaker 7: Well, exactly, very interesting how they've turned what should have
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  Speaker 7: been a free kick into an own goal. But it
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  Speaker 7: strikes me that Susan Lee and a number of others
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  Speaker 7: should remember that the Prime Minister that they want to
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  Speaker 7: get rid of. It's not Kevin Rudd, who lost his
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  Speaker 7: job many years ago, but the current guy, so calling
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  Speaker 7: for him to be sacked. It's not going to happen.
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  Speaker 7: And the whole thing, you know this susanly rushed out
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  Speaker 7: and said that was the big takeout for her, got
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  Speaker 7: to get rid of Kevin Rudd as ambassador. But then
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  Speaker 7: came a leak from the leak sort of salting the
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  Speaker 7: mind from the from the Prime Minister's office saying Kevin
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  Speaker 7: Rudd then apologized personally to the to the President Trump,
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  Speaker 7: and President Trump then said all it's forgiven. I'm not
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  Speaker 7: sure if that's true, but that is what was widely reported,
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  Speaker 7: which makes calling for his you know, resignation after you
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  Speaker 7: know he's at least got this what's apparently at least
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  Speaker 7: a political triumph for Alban easy. I think that is,
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  Speaker 7: as Jane Hume said, a bit churlish more actually beside
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  Speaker 7: the point. And the thing is here is Andrew Hasty,
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  Speaker 7: here is Jane Hume, both of them on the back bench.
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  Speaker 7: I think they were just drawing attention to her her mistakes.
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  Speaker 7: I think it was an enemy action from them as well.
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  Speaker 7: So all in all, a sign of total disloyalty dysfunction
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  Speaker 7: in the Liberal party.
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  Speaker 2: Certainly was I want to talk to you about the
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  Speaker 2: conflict in the Middle East. Israel has halted its military
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  Speaker 2: action in Gaza, but Palestinians continue to suffer at the
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  Speaker 2: hands of Hamas. Days after footage of Hamas executing seven
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  Speaker 2: men for supposedly collaborating with Israel, there's been more footage
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  Speaker 2: emerging of Palestinians being beaten, shot, killed by the terrorist regime,
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  Speaker 2: which begs the question where's the outrage and the warning?
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  Speaker 2: The video we're about to play is distressing.
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  Speaker 3: Have a look.
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  Speaker 9: Hamas is executing Palestinians in Gaza, public executions in broad daylight.
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  Speaker 9: Where are you all the loud voices, the human rights warriors,
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  Speaker 9: the moral preachers, the queers for Palestine? Are these your
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  Speaker 9: freedom fighters? The ones you march for?
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  Speaker 1: You vanished?
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  Speaker 9: Hamas must go.
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  Speaker 2: Andrew that video put out by the Israeli government. It
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  Speaker 2: makes a pretty good point, don't you think?
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  Speaker 7: Well? You covered before a few days ago seven Palestinians
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  Speaker 7: shot in their head in the in the street by Hamas.
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  Speaker 7: Now there's more video of men getting shot, and there
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  Speaker 7: was another as I saw other evidence of a man
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  Speaker 7: getting his legs broken by Hamas. And this is always
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  Speaker 7: the thing, you know, when Albanis he said, I'm going
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  Speaker 7: to recognize, I'm going to recognize a Palestinian state, and
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  Speaker 7: we said, well, half of it's actually run by Hamas.
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  Speaker 1: You know that.
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  Speaker 7: And now that Israel has been pulling out under this
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  Speaker 7: so called you know peace Deel, Hamas has been reasserting
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  Speaker 7: yourself by killing Palestinians. By the way, I did wonder
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  Speaker 7: why how ALBINIZI was going to enforce the guarantee that
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  Speaker 7: he was given he said by the Palestinian authority that
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  Speaker 7: Hamas would be disarmed. A good news, James, As you
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  Speaker 7: may have heard the Strand government's going to send one
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  Speaker 7: person to Israel, not even to Gaza, to oversee this
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  Speaker 7: peace Deel, one person.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, can you believe it?
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  Speaker 7: Oh my gosh. The whole thing is just a sick joke.
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  Speaker 7: And as you say, where are the protests, where are
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  Speaker 7: the protests? There are thirty two organizations behind a protest
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  Speaker 7: the other day you know where police in Victoria got kicked,
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  Speaker 7: you know, hit and injured and had rocks thrown of them.
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  Speaker 7: Thirty two lots of Palestinian groups, Aboriginal groups, Marxist groups,
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  Speaker 7: Socialist groups. Not one of those thirty two could organize
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  Speaker 7: a protest on Sunday saying, yeah, we really were concerned
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  Speaker 7: about Palestinian lives and so we're going to complain about Hamas.
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  Speaker 2: Not one, Well, Andrew, they would have complained about Hamas
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  Speaker 2: and stood up for Palestine lives and they weren't so
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  Speaker 2: busy protesting Israel.
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  Speaker 3: I think that was the conflict. They were double booked.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, just before we go to a break, I've got
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  Speaker 2: to ask you about King Charles.
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  Speaker 3: So I go ahead, King Charles.
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  Speaker 7: Now, I was just thinking, can you imagine if I
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  Speaker 7: want to film shooting dead Palestinians in their head in
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  Speaker 7: the street, what the outrage would have been. You know,
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  Speaker 7: that'd be before the International Battle Court and all that.
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  Speaker 7: But Hamas does it? Oh, a poor Hamas. You know,
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  Speaker 7: let's look the other way.
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  Speaker 2: I want to ask you about King Charles. He's due
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  Speaker 2: to arrive at the Vatican shortly, where he'll pray with
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  Speaker 2: Pope Leo. This is the first time that an English
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  Speaker 2: monarch and the Pope have prayed together since England split
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  Speaker 2: with the Catholic Church five hundred years ago. Are the
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  Speaker 2: Palace put out a curious statement saying, at times of
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  Speaker 2: such global challenge, it has seldom been more important for
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  Speaker 2: Christian communities around the world to unite in faith and.
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  Speaker 3: Fellowship with our partners.
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  Speaker 2: This provides a bulwark against those promoting conflict, division and tyranny,
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  Speaker 2: and supports our work together in promoting harmony to protect
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  Speaker 2: nature God's creation. I'm just curious, Andrew, is this a
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: show of Christian unity and the face of increased persecution
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: and the rise of antichrist ideologies that are running rampant across.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: The world, or is there something else going on here?
• 19:36
  Speaker 7: Look, there are two halves of that statement that you
• 19:38
  Speaker 7: just read out that I think are really fascinating, one good,
• 19:40
  Speaker 7: one bad. The good bit if I might be reading
• 19:44
  Speaker 7: too much into what King Charles is saying, a bullwark
• 19:48
  Speaker 7: against to have the Anglican Church come together with the
• 19:53
  Speaker 7: Catholic Church, Christians together as a bulwark against those who
• 19:59
  Speaker 7: promote conflict, division and tyranny. So it's that an assumption
• 20:02
  Speaker 7: by Charles at lasts and sort of concession the Christianity
• 20:06
  Speaker 7: is a bulwark against tyranny, that Christians have led that
• 20:10
  Speaker 7: kind of fight against the tyranny, standing up for the individual,
• 20:14
  Speaker 7: the rights of the individual in a way that other
• 20:17
  Speaker 7: religions have not, particularly Islam. Right, you have a look
• 20:21
  Speaker 7: at the Christian countries in the world, almost all probably
• 20:24
  Speaker 7: all democratic, apart from the Russian Orthodox Russia and something
• 20:29
  Speaker 7: like that. But basically that would be a concession, I
• 20:33
  Speaker 7: would have thought. But the other half of that of
• 20:35
  Speaker 7: the statement was we work together in harmony to protect nature.
• 20:37
  Speaker 7: And this is where King Charles's love of you know,
• 20:41
  Speaker 7: sort of heretic view that it's almost a nature religion
• 20:46
  Speaker 7: comes into play. Also, you've got to remember he's been
• 20:51
  Speaker 7: a real fan of Islam. He learned Arabic or tried
• 20:55
  Speaker 7: to learn Arabic so he could read the Quran. He's
• 20:58
  Speaker 7: the patron of of the Oxford Center for Islamic Studies,
• 21:04
  Speaker 7: and it's always held up Islam. Oh, it's a repository
• 21:08
  Speaker 7: of great wisdom and this and that, and said it
• 21:11
  Speaker 7: loves nature or has a reverence that we in the
• 21:15
  Speaker 7: progressive West and you know, futuristic and developed, developed develop
• 21:20
  Speaker 7: have lost. And I think I'm just wondering whether this
• 21:24
  Speaker 7: is a meeting where they say Christianity is a defense
• 21:29
  Speaker 7: against tyranny or whether it's look, let's love Islam because boy,
• 21:33
  Speaker 7: they're in touch with nature in the way that we
• 21:35
  Speaker 7: in the progress in the developed West.
• 21:37
  Speaker 8: Or not.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: They're great questions, Andrew, and I think everyone will be
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: watching that meeting, will have coverage on it on Sky
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: later this evening with great interest.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: As I said, you're back on the desk.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Monday night, hosting a program again. Looking forward to it.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Thanks so much for coming on tonight. Or we're going
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: to go to a break. But the questions just won't
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: go away around Barnaby Joyce's future in the Nationals as
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: he ponders a potential switch to Pauline Hanson's One Nation
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Party Plus. Just days after the pm gleefully reaffirmed the
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: future of our orchestele, the Defense Department is told to
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: delay projects and cut costs to save money. It'll go
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: down well in Washington. Barnaby Joyce joins me next well,
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: welcome back to the program. Joining me now is the
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: man whose domination of the headlines this week has been
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: rivaled only by Kevin Rudd. Barnaby Joyce, Welcome to the program.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: I want to get into the news of the day
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: with you, but we have to first talk about where
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: your political future lies. And I guess you're not surprised
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: by this because you understand the conversation is going to
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: be repeated over and over again for the next three years,
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: or at least until you make a decision on your future.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: You understand that.
• 22:52
  Speaker 8: I'm sure, yeah, I look and probably will be saying
• 22:57
  Speaker 8: the same things. First four want to go to anything
• 23:01
  Speaker 8: that's throwing the plates around the kitchen. It's not what
• 23:04
  Speaker 8: I want to be big issue for me, as you know,
• 23:07
  Speaker 8: I've been banging on about forever getting.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Out of that zero.
• 23:10
  Speaker 8: It's so damaging to our nation, to our defense, to
• 23:14
  Speaker 8: what's happening to farming communities, our de industrialization of Australia,
• 23:20
  Speaker 8: power prices through the roof.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Poor people becoming poorer.
• 23:23
  Speaker 8: This is just wrong in every level and the only
• 23:25
  Speaker 8: beneficiary billionaires.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Outrageous. So I'll continue that fight. Away from that, I
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: believe that.
• 23:34
  Speaker 8: The relationship with with David Little Proud fell apart, and.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: I don't think anyone can deny that.
• 23:41
  Speaker 8: You can see it with you can see it with
• 23:44
  Speaker 8: you know, having to stay in the electorate during the election,
• 23:48
  Speaker 8: being moved for generational change before the election. Even Peter Dutton,
• 23:54
  Speaker 8: God bless his soul, just asking me straight out to
• 23:56
  Speaker 8: leave it. And then you know it's just if you
• 24:01
  Speaker 8: hang around, you start feeling pathetic. So you've got to
• 24:03
  Speaker 8: get to a point where you say the logical thing
• 24:06
  Speaker 8: to do is.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: To move on.
• 24:08
  Speaker 8: And I am moving on and for this seat for
• 24:12
  Speaker 8: New England. They'll have another candidate soon and hopefully, you know,
• 24:17
  Speaker 8: the conservative side of politics gets up at the next election.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: I will not be standing for New England.
• 24:21
  Speaker 8: And you know, away from that, I'm currently still the
• 24:25
  Speaker 8: National Party, having joined One Nation. I just wanted to
• 24:29
  Speaker 8: quieten down a bit and then I can make a
• 24:32
  Speaker 8: clearer decision about what I'm doing.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Just a couple of questions that I personally have, just
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: so I understand you're not going to run again for
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: that seat, but you're not quitting politics. You'll definitely run
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: again for a political office at the next election.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: Correct.
• 24:49
  Speaker 8: I've definitely kept James that option open because you're looking
• 24:54
  Speaker 8: at well.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: I can sorry when you say sorry, Barnaby, when you
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: say you've kept the option. When you say you've kept
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: the option open, are you saying it's an option that
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: you might be lost to politics altogether?
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Possibly? Yep, that's that's also an option.
• 25:10
  Speaker 8: I look, James, see that that's where I work the
• 25:14
  Speaker 8: rest of the times, the farm, and I love it
• 25:18
  Speaker 8: and it's it's my soul.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: There are the.
• 25:22
  Speaker 8: People from business who say good ay to me from
• 25:25
  Speaker 8: time to time, but I'm absolutely I'm always as I
• 25:29
  Speaker 8: say to me, you're getting out of politics is like
• 25:33
  Speaker 8: fish getting out of the sea. You just you, you'll, you'll.
• 25:37
  Speaker 8: You're enthralled by the fight. And I suppose in a
• 25:40
  Speaker 8: way I am so. You know, I do believe there
• 25:43
  Speaker 8: are a lot of fights that need to continue on
• 25:45
  Speaker 8: for the betterment of Australia more so than for the
• 25:48
  Speaker 8: betterment of me.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: And you know we're in the middle of one right now,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: getting rid of a net zero.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: So you haven't quit the Nationals.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: Is there any chance at all that you would stay
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: on with the Nationals, not in that seat, but you'd
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: stick with the Nationals going into the next election.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: Is that any chance at all?
• 26:08
  Speaker 8: It's pretty unlikely, James. Pretty unlikely, James, to be honest,
• 26:12
  Speaker 8: you don't leave a party. Look at things build up
• 26:16
  Speaker 8: over a long period of time and you're looking for
• 26:19
  Speaker 8: a resolution. You're looking for possibly things ameliorating and getting better.
• 26:25
  Speaker 8: But I think when you make the decision, I just don't.
• 26:27
  Speaker 8: I'm not going to go around rubbishing the National Party.
• 26:30
  Speaker 8: I love the National Party, I love the membership. It's
• 26:33
  Speaker 8: not my style, as I said, going throw the plates
• 26:35
  Speaker 8: around the kitchen. I want to keep some of dignity
• 26:39
  Speaker 8: in this, but it's such a monumental move that I'd
• 26:43
  Speaker 8: find it a little bit difficult to go back on.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: To be honest, I want to get your thoughts on
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: comments from your colleague. Bridget mackenzie on Sky News this morning.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Here's what she had to say.
• 26:58
  Speaker 10: I hope he comes back an enormous contribution to make
• 27:02
  Speaker 10: We're a small but mighty force and when better when
• 27:05
  Speaker 10: we all fight together, and it's really up to David
• 27:08
  Speaker 10: to really repair that relationship so that that can happen.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: She says, it's David Little Proud's move to make. Has
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: David Little Prowd been in contact with you personally since
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: all of this broke into the news. I guess Monday
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: we had a.
• 27:26
  Speaker 8: Brief conversation from him. Yes, we had a brief He
• 27:30
  Speaker 8: rang me, I missed the call. I rang him back.
• 27:31
  Speaker 8: I had a brief conversation as I was going to
• 27:34
  Speaker 8: Rockampton Airport. I was up there actually helping out the
• 27:38
  Speaker 8: LMP in the Federal Divisional Council meetings. But we had
• 27:42
  Speaker 8: a brief conversation was courteous. I don't know whether it
• 27:46
  Speaker 8: resolved anything, but it was courteous, and that's the way
• 27:50
  Speaker 8: I'd like to keep it. It's a Bridget. She's a
• 27:54
  Speaker 8: great person, right Bridge. It's a really decent, wonderful human being.
• 27:58
  Speaker 8: And I oligine I rained Bridget and just apologize for
• 28:02
  Speaker 8: any hurt that I may have caused her, as I
• 28:06
  Speaker 8: do with other colleagues, because that is not my intention.
• 28:08
  Speaker 8: I just you get to a point where you just
• 28:10
  Speaker 8: think that, okay, that's it. And people have sort of
• 28:15
  Speaker 8: mocked me if you use in the metaphor of a marriage,
• 28:17
  Speaker 8: But it's very similar in politics, and there's a lot
• 28:20
  Speaker 8: of emotions and when you decide you're out, it's pretty
• 28:26
  Speaker 8: pretty gut wrenching and you you just but you can't
• 28:30
  Speaker 8: sort of go out of it and then go back
• 28:32
  Speaker 8: into it, you know what I mean. It's people say, well,
• 28:34
  Speaker 8: why do you create all that hurt if you're going
• 28:36
  Speaker 8: to come back in? You know, So that's that's that's
• 28:39
  Speaker 8: sort of what's at the forefront of my mind. And
• 28:41
  Speaker 8: I don't wish Ill and anybody. I want them to
• 28:43
  Speaker 8: do the very best job they can. It's their duty
• 28:46
  Speaker 8: on behalf of their nation. But I just feel that
• 28:49
  Speaker 8: I couldn't do that job. Sitting in the back corner
• 28:54
  Speaker 8: of the chamber and with generational change, I just felt
• 28:59
  Speaker 8: like it was all messages for me to get out,
• 29:02
  Speaker 8: and I had to be an adult and read those
• 29:04
  Speaker 8: messages and understand and understand what they meant.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, let me move on to something you're passionate about,
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: and that is the energy debate. There was a US
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: government climate report that's been released. It completely dismantles the
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: Prime Minister's climate panic messaging. The US Department of Energy
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: has reported that the costs of climate change are far
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: less catastrophic than predicted. Extreme weather events have not become
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: more frequent or severe, climate change models are hardly reliable,
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: and even if the US made big cuts to emissions,
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: it would barely make a difference to global temperatures. This
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: release report comes just months after Albanezi used the Bush
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: Summit you may remember, to preach drastic emission cuts as
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: a way to prevent a climate catastrophe. But to me,
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: the report doesn't deny that human activity contributes to warming,
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: but it's adamant human activity is neither the major cause
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: nor can it be the major cure. This is the
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: US Energy Department. This is exactly what people like you
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: have been saying now for years.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and let's extrapolate that out, James.
• 30:13
  Speaker 8: If the US is not going to make a big
• 30:14
  Speaker 8: difference to the climate, Australia is going to make none.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: But we are making a big difference to our capacities
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: to defend ourselves. We are making a.
• 30:22
  Speaker 8: Big difference to as we basically take the poor people
• 30:29
  Speaker 8: into the absolute destitution of not being able to afford
• 30:31
  Speaker 8: their power.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: We've smashed the cost of living.
• 30:34
  Speaker 8: We've lost our aluminium industry, plastics industry, your ear industry,
• 30:38
  Speaker 8: glass industry.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: Down to do ail refineries, and on and on and
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: on it goes.
• 30:42
  Speaker 8: The only thing we're changing is the prospects of Australia
• 30:46
  Speaker 8: and it's driving us into the dirt. And this idea
• 30:49
  Speaker 8: you will get like we might be heading into a
• 30:51
  Speaker 8: drought now on the gods of the lights. Hello, we
• 30:54
  Speaker 8: might be going to a drought now, and you mention
• 30:56
  Speaker 8: your life.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: People said, I'm.
• 30:57
  Speaker 11: Going climate change, climate change, climate change, and this becomes
• 31:00
  Speaker 11: the excuse for basically billionaires to make more billions of dollars.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: And I've had enough of that.
• 31:06
  Speaker 11: You know this, every idea, everything you hear, climate change.
• 31:09
  Speaker 11: You know my horse doesn't come into the races climate change.
• 31:11
  Speaker 11: I had an argument with my neighbor climate change. You've
• 31:14
  Speaker 11: got a flat tire. Climate change. You know, it's it's
• 31:17
  Speaker 11: it's the it's the excuse for everything. But the idea
• 31:20
  Speaker 11: that Chris Bowen and a room in Canberra can change
• 31:25
  Speaker 11: the arc of heaven is patently absurd. But what she
• 31:29
  Speaker 11: can do and you are doing is destroying your nation.
• 31:32
  Speaker 11: And you've got to stop.
• 31:33
  Speaker 8: And I'm a lot more passionate about that than my
• 31:36
  Speaker 8: political future.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Believe you me.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: Well, Barnaby.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Personally, I do trust your remaining politics because we need
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: someone to keep making that argument. And I appreciate you
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: joining me tonight. Thanks so much.
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: Well.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Coming up, an AFL mascot has made headlines for reportedly
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: storming out of a teenager's but mitzvah.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: You won't believe why.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: And speaking of climate activists, a climate activist's climate hypocrisy
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: exposed by panel with that next well, the Melbourne AFL
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: team Carlton didn't do too well during the season and
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: they're not doing that well out of the season either.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: The club's mascot stormed out of a teenage fans bar
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: mitzvah after finding out money being raised at the function
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: would go towards helping wounded Israeli soldiers. The man dressed
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: as Captain Carlton was allegedly heard saying I'm not doing
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: this for effing zios. It's understood he's no longer working
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: for the club, which issued this statement. The statement reads,
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: the club is aware of a matter that occurred at
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: a private event and has taken the appropriate steps to
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: address it in a manner of the lines with our
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: values and responsibilities as a club. Indeed, joining me is
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Jemmy Tolnini from GT Communications and Sky News contributor Caroline
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: de Russo. Jim up good on the Carlton Footy Club
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: for acting so swiftly.
• 33:04
  Speaker 12: I'm a bit confused, which is actually not that unusual
• 33:07
  Speaker 12: for this time of the week. But question was this
• 33:09
  Speaker 12: chap there as a guest or was he there working,
• 33:13
  Speaker 12: because presumably if he's a guest at a bar mitzvah,
• 33:16
  Speaker 12: it would be not an unusual leap to see that
• 33:21
  Speaker 12: money donated. And that's that's something that's really beautiful about
• 33:24
  Speaker 12: bar mitzvah's and but mitzvah's the children who are who's
• 33:27
  Speaker 12: whose event it is. They do what's called a mitzvah,
• 33:29
  Speaker 12: and they asked their guests to I went to butt MITZRHM.
• 33:33
  Speaker 12: We all bought a book and the books were then donated.
• 33:34
  Speaker 12: So it's that kind of thing. But it's not a
• 33:36
  Speaker 12: massive stretch if you're going to a bar mitzvah for
• 33:38
  Speaker 12: the money raised to go to perhaps the wounded soldiers.
• 33:42
  Speaker 12: Was the person there as a guest or were they working?
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: No, I believe he was working.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of the Jewish community of big supporters,
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: right happen football club makes more.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: But our social was an event.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is an event to celebrate a thirteen
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: year old Caroline. Can you believe that anti Semitism and
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: that the feeling around it is so strong and so
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: pernicious that even a thirteen year old's event would be
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: spoiled by this?
• 34:18
  Speaker 13: And that was my thought when I read the story.
• 34:20
  Speaker 13: I mean, think about it. You're there representing or working
• 34:24
  Speaker 13: for a sports club and you're there to celebrate a
• 34:29
  Speaker 13: milestone event for a child and you can't manage to leave.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: Your politics at home.
• 34:34
  Speaker 13: So that just tells me that you're probably not quite
• 34:38
  Speaker 13: balanced any sort of adult. And look, we all have
• 34:41
  Speaker 13: to do things in the course of o unemployment that
• 34:43
  Speaker 13: we don't necessarily love.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: But you would think even.
• 34:47
  Speaker 13: If you had that thought in your mind, that it
• 34:50
  Speaker 13: wouldn't pass through to your mouth, and so that there
• 34:53
  Speaker 13: I think. Look, and I generally I get a little
• 34:57
  Speaker 13: bit upset when people lose their jobs over these of
• 35:00
  Speaker 13: things in general, right because I think it's a really
• 35:03
  Speaker 13: silly thing to lose your job over. But if anti
• 35:06
  Speaker 13: Semitism is becoming just so casual in the course of
• 35:11
  Speaker 13: you know, some being because every day is this, then
• 35:13
  Speaker 13: that's a real problem because that there would not be
• 35:16
  Speaker 13: acceptable for any other religious or racial group. So I
• 35:20
  Speaker 13: don't understand why it would be acceptable in this particular case.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: So cute, oscut, And.
• 35:26
  Speaker 12: If I could just jump back in there, I don't
• 35:28
  Speaker 12: have a problem with people losing their jobs for that
• 35:30
  Speaker 12: very reason, Caro, because, as you so rightly pointed out,
• 35:34
  Speaker 12: if it was a borring words like that about a
• 35:38
  Speaker 12: Muslim Australian, an Indigenous Australian, you would that those.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: People would no longer be an employment.
• 35:44
  Speaker 12: It's called choice and consequences. I respect that person's right
• 35:48
  Speaker 12: to express their views, their views are no longer congruent
• 35:51
  Speaker 12: with the values of their employer. End of story.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: BINGO, Absolutely all right.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: Speaking of values, it's been revealed that climate activist Mike
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: cannon Brooks spent five point seven million dollars flying around
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: the world on his private jet last year. This is
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: the same man who aggressively campaigned for the closure of
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: agl's coal fired power stations back to the climate group
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: behind the Teal Wave at the last election, and says
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: he'll spend one point five billion dollars on climate projects.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: By twenty thirty, shareholders had a letter from the company
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: explaining this private jet use.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: Here's how it was explained to them.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: The arrangements allow for significant benefits in terms of safety, security, efficiency, privacy, confidentiality,
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: flexibility and productivity for mister cannon Brook's role as CEO.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: Jemma.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: This is one of the reasons I don't buy the
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: whole climate catastrophe narrative because the people propagating it, if
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: they really believed it, they wouldn't be jetting around the world,
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: and certainly not on private jets.
• 36:55
  Speaker 12: I wonder if he has a deep personal turmoil over
• 36:57
  Speaker 12: this decision, like he did getting the jet in the
• 37:00
  Speaker 12: first place. I mean, it's just not a serious proposition,
• 37:03
  Speaker 12: is it. Like imagine spending that kind of coin and
• 37:07
  Speaker 12: not facing up, ponying up to the truth that it's
• 37:10
  Speaker 12: not going to do a single thing so long as
• 37:13
  Speaker 12: China and India are still on the planet. I mean,
• 37:14
  Speaker 12: this has got nothing. I don't think it's got anything
• 37:16
  Speaker 12: to do with the climate personally. And the other thing
• 37:19
  Speaker 12: about it is this the climate is changing?
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: Is there a crisis?
• 37:23
  Speaker 12: No?
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  Speaker 3: How do I know this? Two words?
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  Speaker 12: Al Gore, No forwards, Tim Flannery.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's not hard.
• 37:30
  Speaker 12: The evidence is right there. So if he wants to
• 37:33
  Speaker 12: squander that money and shareholders let him and it's his money, look,
• 37:36
  Speaker 12: knock yourself out. But if you think it's going to
• 37:39
  Speaker 12: do anything other than I suppose you know, fulfill your
• 37:44
  Speaker 12: own desires and that's you know, that's a place here
• 37:47
  Speaker 12: he is entitled to live in.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: Caroline, help me understand the mindsets of these elites who
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: always seem to demand the highest standard from everyone else
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: than they themselves are willing to give. How does this
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: work in their minds? How do they put it together?
• 38:05
  Speaker 13: Oh, they're just filthy, indulged hypocrites. And I had to
• 38:09
  Speaker 13: look at some of the flights, mate, I had to
• 38:11
  Speaker 13: look at.
• 38:11
  Speaker 8: Some of the flights.
• 38:13
  Speaker 13: There was one flight that was eleven minutes long. Even
• 38:17
  Speaker 13: Elizabeth Taylor could get in a limo and go somewhere
• 38:21
  Speaker 13: thirty seven kilometers. Imagine a ceo being a bigger diva
• 38:26
  Speaker 13: than Elizabeth Taylor. There's another flight that was eighty seven
• 38:30
  Speaker 13: kilometers long and took half an hour, and actually it
• 38:33
  Speaker 13: was from Gerona to Barcelona, and Jemma and I had
• 38:35
  Speaker 13: a belt.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: Of a holiday back.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good train.
• 38:39
  Speaker 13: We jumped on the train your own people, you can
• 38:43
  Speaker 13: have forty five minutes of not having perfect little bubble
• 38:47
  Speaker 13: of privacy around you while you get from Girona to Barcelona.
• 38:51
  Speaker 13: I don't reckon he's just putridly spoiled.
• 38:54
  Speaker 12: I don't reckon anyone on that train would have a
• 38:56
  Speaker 12: clue who he is.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: Especially I had no idea, no idea.
• 38:59
  Speaker 12: I think, absolutely embarrassing. But a cracking train ride with
• 39:04
  Speaker 12: some very nice Henery that he now missed out on.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Indeed, poor James, you would be aware of, and that
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: is I didn't know we're going to get highlights of
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: your holidays, but I'm very interested.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: I got to say.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: I tell you who else viewers would be familiar with,
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: and that is Australia's e Safety Commissioner, Julie Imnan Grant.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: She's an unelected bureaucrat page just shy of half a
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: million bucks to fuss over what we can and can't
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: see on social media. The Coalition we're pushing for an
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: inquiry into her powers, which I think a lot of
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: people would welcome. But thanks to freedom of information laws,
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: we now have a copy of a lengthy letter she
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: wrote to the opposition trying to get them to drop
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: the inquiry.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: Caroline, let me go.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: To you, how unusual is it for civil servants to
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: seek to influence politicians like this?
• 39:56
  Speaker 13: Well, on that there, I'm not one hundred percent sure.
• 39:58
  Speaker 13: And while I'm involved in in politics, I've never been
• 40:01
  Speaker 13: a poly and mercifully never been a staffer, so I
• 40:04
  Speaker 13: haven't seen that back end of that mechanics there. But
• 40:08
  Speaker 13: I mean the simple fact of the matter is she
• 40:10
  Speaker 13: took a job and she knew what was required of her,
• 40:15
  Speaker 13: and I would.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Accept or what I would expect.
• 40:18
  Speaker 13: I should say that she would understand how these sorts
• 40:21
  Speaker 13: of things work. And if you don't want to be accountable,
• 40:24
  Speaker 13: then maybe try something else.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: That's good advice.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: Jimma, how concerned should we be about the power wielded
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: by unelected bureaucrats in our government? Because it does seem
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: to be a problem. She's a classic example, but she's
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: not Robinson Crusso.
• 40:41
  Speaker 12: No, absolutely not. Obviously, all bureaucrats are unelected. That's the
• 40:45
  Speaker 12: point of them. Where she we don't know what the
• 40:47
  Speaker 12: point of him is most of the time. But in
• 40:50
  Speaker 12: this case, someone who is so aggressively seeking to not
• 40:55
  Speaker 12: have this inquiry, I think that for me, that's.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: A red flag.
• 40:58
  Speaker 12: Like the whole idea of look, come have a lotle,
• 41:00
  Speaker 12: lift up the hood, kick the tires, do all of
• 41:02
  Speaker 12: those things. And at the end of the day, my
• 41:05
  Speaker 12: message to all politicians and bureaucrats at as senior level
• 41:09
  Speaker 12: as you work for us, you work for taxpayers. You
• 41:12
  Speaker 12: serve at the pleasure of the government, and you are
• 41:14
  Speaker 12: there to serve the public. So if there is value,
• 41:19
  Speaker 12: and I certainly as a voter, I think there's value.
• 41:20
  Speaker 12: We'n understanding the length of these powers, the breadth of them,
• 41:24
  Speaker 12: how they're structured, asking difficult questions, as I said, lifting
• 41:27
  Speaker 12: up the hood and having a bit of a poke
• 41:29
  Speaker 12: around in there. Then the correct response from any bureaucrat who,
• 41:33
  Speaker 12: as I said, works for you and I is, by
• 41:35
  Speaker 12: all means, can I make you a cup of tea
• 41:37
  Speaker 12: while you look around?
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: Very very well said, I think everyone watching would absolutely
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: agree with you. Jem At Caroline, thanks so much for
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: joining me tonight when.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: We go to a break, but when we come back.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: The ridiculous story of the migrant to cross into the
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: UK was sent back to France and then managed to
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: cross again into the UK just weeks later. You couldn't
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: make it up us Kiirths Starmer is apparently prepared to
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: back an inquiry into the finances of Prince Andrew across
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: life to London with Patrick Christie's.
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: After this.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: Well, British Prime Minister Kirs Starmer promised voters he'd take
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: strong action on illegal migration, organizing a deal with France
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: that he promised meant for every one illegal in there'd
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: be one illegal removed, but increasingly his one in, one
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: out policy is looking more like one in, one out
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: and back in again.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: Joining me in our live from London.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: Is GB news host Patrick Christie's Patrick, an asylum seeker
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: removed from the UK under Starmer's deal with France, arrived
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: right back about four weeks later.
• 42:44
  Speaker 14: Yeah, like an Iranian boomerang. So this was indeed an
• 42:48
  Speaker 14: Iranian man that we deporuted and we allowed back in.
• 42:51
  Speaker 14: Deportations of as a whole have fallham by seven point
• 42:55
  Speaker 14: four percent under labor, So just a bit of contest.
• 42:58
  Speaker 14: Labour have allowed every single person who has entered this
• 43:01
  Speaker 14: country illegally to try to claim asylum, and the fifty
• 43:05
  Speaker 14: thousand of them across the channel, we've sent forty two back,
• 43:08
  Speaker 14: but as you point out, there's only forty one now
• 43:10
  Speaker 14: because one of them has come back again.
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: He is Iranian. But don't worry.
• 43:13
  Speaker 14: Iranians top the list of people who have been given
• 43:16
  Speaker 14: fake baptisms in migrant hotels. We put them in hotels,
• 43:19
  Speaker 14: are very well meaning church minister will come around and
• 43:22
  Speaker 14: they are baptizing them in the bath so they can
• 43:24
  Speaker 14: claim to be Christian and therefore they can't be deported
• 43:27
  Speaker 14: back to Iran. Just to say as well, I'm reading
• 43:29
  Speaker 14: some of our government statements about this migrant deal. Right,
• 43:33
  Speaker 14: you will be deported, don't cross, you will be deported,
• 43:37
  Speaker 14: no second chances. If you arrive illegally, you can be
• 43:40
  Speaker 14: detained and returned. Well, yeah, but it turns out that
• 43:43
  Speaker 14: we'll send you back only for you to come back again.
• 43:46
  Speaker 14: I mean, it's an absolute farce.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: And of course you said there's only been about did
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: you say forty two with this man's return, forty one
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: migrants who have been sent back to France. I mean,
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: the Prime Minister lay such a bit big deal of
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: this policy. It's made no difference whatsoever.
• 44:05
  Speaker 14: It's made no difference whatsoever. In fact, the problem has
• 44:07
  Speaker 14: got much worse. And the big test now will be
• 44:09
  Speaker 14: whether or not we can categorically deport this man again.
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: Because you know, all you have.
• 44:14
  Speaker 14: To do in this country at the moment is get
• 44:17
  Speaker 14: a tattoo of a crucifix somewhere on your body. That
• 44:20
  Speaker 14: means that you're now a god fearing Christian man. We
• 44:22
  Speaker 14: can't send you back to any Muslim country according to
• 44:25
  Speaker 14: our own laws. Or you could marry someone over here,
• 44:28
  Speaker 14: say that your son doesn't like foreign chicken nuggets. We
• 44:31
  Speaker 14: can't deport you back to Albania. These are all real
• 44:33
  Speaker 14: cases that have happened. So if we can't deport this
• 44:36
  Speaker 14: guy now, then that really is the big green light
• 44:39
  Speaker 14: for absolutely everybody to come to Britain and spend time
• 44:43
  Speaker 14: in a margrant hotel before we give you a house.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: Can I just ask Patrick, this guy, like so many others,
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: came across the channel from France.
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: Why are they trying to escape France?
• 44:55
  Speaker 7: Well?
• 44:55
  Speaker 14: Quite, there's no war in France, is there?
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: Of course?
• 44:58
  Speaker 14: The joke is that if there had been a war
• 44:59
  Speaker 14: in fro the French would have already surrendered. But no,
• 45:02
  Speaker 14: there is no war in France. And there are a
• 45:03
  Speaker 14: big question marks here about what the French have been
• 45:06
  Speaker 14: playing at because the terms of this deal, as we
• 45:09
  Speaker 14: understand it, is that we send them back to France
• 45:12
  Speaker 14: and then France processes them and either deports them themselves,
• 45:15
  Speaker 14: of course, or decides that they can stay in France.
• 45:17
  Speaker 14: The French have clearly just released this guy back out
• 45:20
  Speaker 14: to the same beaches in northern France from whence she came,
• 45:24
  Speaker 14: and and they're happy to continue doing that. I mean,
• 45:27
  Speaker 14: it is a complete and utter far and you know,
• 45:30
  Speaker 14: the problems of the British public here are are absolutely vast.
• 45:33
  Speaker 14: We have had documented cases of ISIS terrorists, our kind
• 45:36
  Speaker 14: of terrorists, Hamas and Hasbala terrorists coming across the channel.
• 45:40
  Speaker 14: I'm not saying that this guy is necessarily one of those,
• 45:41
  Speaker 14: of course, but the point is we don't know, do we.
• 45:44
  Speaker 14: And it's just it's just full blown incompetence really from
• 45:48
  Speaker 14: from our government and a lack of will from the
• 45:50
  Speaker 14: French who was supposed to be our allies.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: All Right, I want to talk about the Royal family,
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: and if you're talking about the Royal family at the moment,
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: usually is Prince Andrew. The Prime Minister seems to be
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: prepared to back an inquiry into royal finances, which would
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: see Prince Andrew potentially answering questions in Parliament. What would
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: the inquiry examine specifically and how big a spectacle would
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: this be if it goes ahead?
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 46:20
  Speaker 14: Well, initially, what they're saying the inquiry would examine would
• 46:23
  Speaker 14: be the terms of the Crown Estate, so basically the
• 46:27
  Speaker 14: living arrangements of Prince Andrew. He's been living in a
• 46:30
  Speaker 14: thirty room mansion called Royal lodge and has paid a
• 46:33
  Speaker 14: peppercorn rent for the last twenty years. Clearly everything's blown
• 46:38
  Speaker 14: up again about links to not just Jeffrey Epstein by
• 46:40
  Speaker 14: the way, and Virginia Giffrey and all of that, but
• 46:43
  Speaker 14: also potentially as spy masters, specifically Chinese spy masters as well.
• 46:48
  Speaker 14: So it's all looking incredibly dodgy for Prince Andrew, and
• 46:52
  Speaker 14: the finances of the Royal family are also now being
• 46:56
  Speaker 14: called into question. The other aspect of it is to
• 46:59
  Speaker 14: do with his title. So basically he has now voluntarily
• 47:03
  Speaker 14: resigned his titles like the Duke of York, et cetera. However,
• 47:08
  Speaker 14: there's a motion going through or was about to go
• 47:09
  Speaker 14: through Parliament anyway, really trying to get informally stripped of that.
• 47:13
  Speaker 14: In order to get him totally stripped of that in
• 47:15
  Speaker 14: his prince title, you would have to pass a new law,
• 47:18
  Speaker 14: which is what's happening. This would get very messy, very
• 47:20
  Speaker 14: quick to the Royal family because they've never before been
• 47:22
  Speaker 14: someone before a committee in Parliament. They've never been asked
• 47:25
  Speaker 14: to answer the questions about their own finances.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: I mean.
• 47:29
  Speaker 14: The concern here for me is that whilst Prince Andrew
• 47:32
  Speaker 14: is in my view basically a wrong and right. I
• 47:35
  Speaker 14: don't want to see the tearing down of the entire
• 47:37
  Speaker 14: royal family as a result of this. So we are
• 47:40
  Speaker 14: in an age now where you know, we're ripping down statues,
• 47:43
  Speaker 14: we're disgracing British history, all of that stuff. You know,
• 47:46
  Speaker 14: I'm concerned that we might go a little bit too
• 47:48
  Speaker 14: far here and before you know it, you know, there
• 47:50
  Speaker 14: are calls to it, well more, calls anyway to abolish
• 47:53
  Speaker 14: the monarchy, do away with the king, all of that
• 47:55
  Speaker 14: stuff as a result of Prince Andrew and whatever we
• 47:58
  Speaker 14: might find out about his finance. So we need to
• 48:01
  Speaker 14: tread very carefully here in my view.
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you make a really good point.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: There are people who don't like the royals, and with
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: the smell of blood in the water, you can just
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: imagine the absolute pile on that would result if he
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: was called to give evidence in Parliament. What a spectacle
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: that would be. Patrick Christie's it's always great to talk
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: with you. Thanks for joining me from London tonight. That's
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: it from me, As I said earlier in the program,
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: next week Monday.
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: Andrew, we're back in the chair. We're all looking forward
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: to that.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: But right now, stick around Deniko de Giorgio is hosting
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: Shari's program, She's Up Now.