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Our Own "Whatever It Takes" Moments · Whatever It Takes with Carli Lloyd and Jenny Taft

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Speaker 1: Well, welcome to Whatever It Takes. I am your host,
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Speaker 1: Carly Lloyd, and I am, of course, joined by my
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Speaker 1: friend and co-host, Jenny Taft. So today we are actually
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Speaker 1: going to talk about our own Whatever It Takes. We've
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Speaker 1: had several episodes that we've come out with. And we
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Speaker 1: have yet to share our own, both on the professional
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Speaker 1: side and personal side. So I'm kind of excited about this.
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Speaker 1: I had to do some, you know, really deep diving
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Speaker 1: into my brain a little bit. I'm like, what does
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Speaker 1: whatever it takes mean to me? So really looking forward
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Speaker 1: to this, especially hearing your story, Jenny.
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Speaker 2: Want to dive in? Yeah, I'm excited.
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Speaker 3: We've shared this on a couple episodes, but the name
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Speaker 3: of the show, Whatever It Takes, I think really came
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Speaker 3: from you and your journey and you as an athlete
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Speaker 3: and getting to know you and just, you know, I've
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Speaker 3: said this and I'll keep saying it, but your success
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Speaker 3: is so inspiring. And I just have always viewed you
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Speaker 3: as someone who was going to do whatever it takes
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Speaker 3: to be the best of the best, which you accomplished.
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Speaker 3: And I think that's what's so cool. But it no
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Speaker 3: one knows the steps to get to that point, right?
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Speaker 3: So I think that's why our stories will be fun.
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Speaker 3: And we figured this episode, we could do a family, personal,
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Speaker 3: whatever it takes moment and a professional one.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's perfect. I'm excited.
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Speaker 1: Okay. And you've done whatever it takes too. So don't
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Speaker 1: just single me out as, you know, this headlining this
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Speaker 1: podcast of ours.
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Speaker 3: I do, but it's funny because I so vividly remember,
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Speaker 3: I mean, this is weird too. I was like, taking
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Speaker 3: a shower and I was like, this is it, whatever
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Speaker 3: it takes.
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Speaker 2: Like it just hit me.
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Speaker 3: I kept thinking about, that's weird, I guess, that I
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Speaker 3: was thinking about the podcast of the shower, but whatever.
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Speaker 2: It is what it is.
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Speaker 3: But I was thinking about you and just those like words,
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Speaker 3: you know, we had so many ideas that were not great,
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Speaker 3: you know, I can't even remember.
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Speaker 2: We had a lot. We had a lot, but they
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Speaker 2: were great names.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I mean, whatever it takes. And now we've had two
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Speaker 3: guests share their Whatever It Takes moments. And we do
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Speaker 3: want to encourage our listeners to share their Whatever It
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Speaker 3: Takes moments. So at least throughout the show, if you're
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Speaker 3: listening and something comes to mind, please do share it
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Speaker 3: with us on social.
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Speaker 2: We're going to try to be more active. Like, subscribe, review,
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Speaker 2: share all the things.
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Speaker 3: But we want to hear from our listeners too. And
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Speaker 3: I think that that's what will be so fun. This
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Speaker 3: is a community.
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Speaker 2: Yes, I agree.
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Speaker 1: And I think, you know, with whatever it takes doesn't
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Speaker 1: necessarily have to be, which is what I wanted to
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Speaker 1: throw out, doesn't have to necessarily be something that makes
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Speaker 1: you successful. I think whatever it takes can be doing
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Speaker 1: whatever it takes as a parent, as a spouse, as
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Speaker 1: a friend, as a sibling, all these different avenues of life, right?
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Speaker 1: And obviously we are in the business and you're in
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Speaker 1: the TV space. You know, I used to play and
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Speaker 1: those measures of success, we had to be willing to
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Speaker 1: do whatever it takes. So I think that's a good
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Speaker 1: point to put out to the listeners that you don't
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Speaker 1: have to be a professional athlete or a, you know,
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Speaker 1: mainstream TV sideline reporter.
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Speaker 2: So all good. Got to do whatever it takes.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I was thinking about last weekend, like the
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Speaker 3: interviews with coaches, like it's chaotic, it's crazy, whatever it takes,
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Speaker 3: like find a way. Sometimes they'll chat longer. Sometimes they'll
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Speaker 3: chat shorter. You know, you just got to be ready
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Speaker 3: to go with the flow.
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Speaker 2: So, okay. Let's get into it. Personal story first.
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Speaker 1: I want to hear this lacrosse story that you've got.
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Speaker 2: Oh, okay. This is fun.
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Speaker 3: You know, the other thing that's so unique, now living
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Speaker 3: in Boston again, and I know you know Matt is
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Speaker 3: now coaching at BU, so it feels like so many
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Speaker 3: of my college memories are coming back and just on
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Speaker 3: my mind living here. It's really been fun to be
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Speaker 3: back here, but My story that I wanted to share
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Speaker 3: with you, my whatever-it-takes moment that I always go back to,
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Speaker 3: as you know, I played lacrosse at BU, and I
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Speaker 3: was a walk-on. But what I probably didn't tell you,
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Speaker 3: I actually tried out and was cut first. So I'm
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Speaker 3: from Minnesota, which, of course, you know, in Minnesota, I
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Speaker 3: was a good lacrosse player. I won, like, Minnesota Lacrosse
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Speaker 3: Player of the Year, which seems very fancy, but at
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Speaker 3: the time, there were probably 20 of us playing.
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Speaker 2: So it was exciting, but I was also.
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Speaker 3: athletic so being good at lacrosse in Minnesota at the
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Speaker 3: time because it was kind of a new sport was
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Speaker 3: really just being athletic and being fast because I liked
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Speaker 3: lacrosse more than soccer and that's really why I made
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Speaker 3: the transition because it was so much more high scoring
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Speaker 3: and I was a forward I was a tack and
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Speaker 3: I wanted to score fast you had some I was
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Speaker 3: fast yeah like I was I was fast comparing how
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Speaker 3: fast some of my college teammates were I don't know
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Speaker 3: if I was that fast but at least in high
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Speaker 3: school I was fast and I wanted to score so
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Speaker 3: I would just run down the field and score. And
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Speaker 3: I was a lefty, which was definitely an advantage in lacrosse.
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Speaker 3: You know, strong side was my left side. So point
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Speaker 3: of the story is I had some opportunities to play
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Speaker 3: Division I hockey or D3 hockey or lacrosse, but mostly
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Speaker 3: D3 because lacrosse was still growing and I was kind
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Speaker 3: of not a name.
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Speaker 2: I tried to scout or recruit myself a little bit.
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Speaker 3: I would go to camps, but I was obsessed with
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Speaker 3: the idea of going to the East Coast to play
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Speaker 3: lacrosse or ice hockey. And there was this vision in
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Speaker 3: my mind that I could be the first Minnesota player
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Speaker 3: to play Division I lacrosse, which I think it had
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Speaker 3: happened before, but it was really just so.
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Speaker 2: Rare at the time.
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Speaker 3: So fast forward, I applied to every school, really wanted
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Speaker 3: to go to BC. And that's why this came to
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Speaker 3: my mind yesterday, because I had a babysitter come over
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Speaker 3: last night, a BC student. So I picked her up
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Speaker 3: on campus and I was like, wow, I really wanted
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Speaker 3: to go here. And I did not get in. And
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Speaker 3: it really hurt. Like, I thought my... I was going
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Speaker 3: to end up at BC. You know, it looks like Hogwarts.
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Speaker 3: It's got the Catholic background. I really liked BC.
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Speaker 2: That was your dream school. That was the dream. And
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Speaker 2: I didn't get in. From a young age? What was that?
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Speaker 2: From a young age? You always wanted to go there?
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Speaker 3: I don't know when it started, but it became this
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Speaker 3: like East Coast obsession. And they had a lacrosse and
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Speaker 3: ice hockey team. So in my mind... I was good enough.
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Speaker 3: I talked to the hockey coach a little bit. It
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Speaker 3: would probably still have been like a walk-on situation, but
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Speaker 3: I liked B.C. I did have this visual of B.C.,
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Speaker 3: and I got waitlisted, and then I got denied, and
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Speaker 3: that really hurt. Wow. That hurt Jenny Taft at Edina
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Speaker 3: High School. Not easy. But my dad had taken me.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it hurt.
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Speaker 3: My dad had taken me on a Boston tour, and
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Speaker 3: he was an ice hockey player, and he played at Wisconsin,
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Speaker 3: and he said, I remember playing at B.U., And loving
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Speaker 3: the rink and the atmosphere. And we hadn't really even
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Speaker 3: thought about BU. I didn't know a lot about BU.
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Speaker 3: But BU had a great journalism school.
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Speaker 2: So I applied to BU. I fell in love with BU.
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Speaker 3: And I really do think, you know, I'm going to
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Speaker 3: try to walk onto the lacrosse team. And BU lacrosse
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Speaker 3: was really, really good at the time. We were top
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Speaker 3: 10 pretty much my whole four years.
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Speaker 2: Wow. You guys were Big East, right? We were Big
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Speaker 2: East at the time. Mm-hmm. I think we were Merrick
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Speaker 2: East at one point. Like, it changed a couple times.
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Speaker 2: Those are things I should know.
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Speaker 1: I'm getting confused because I feel like maybe Rutgers, we played,
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Speaker 1: maybe we did play Boston College, Big East.
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Speaker 2: I can't remember if they were playoffs. They've changed. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: the conferences. And it was a good team.
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Speaker 3: So I knew that it was going to be a stretch,
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Speaker 3: but I figured, why not? I think there were 10
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Speaker 3: girls who tried out as walk-ons. It was a new
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Speaker 3: coach at BU. So I went to the tryouts. I
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Speaker 3: think it was a week-long process. I knew I was
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Speaker 3: athletic enough, but it was very clear that my right
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Speaker 3: side was not as good as everyone else because I
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Speaker 3: just got away with it in Minnesota. There was really
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Speaker 3: no need to use left and right. So I was
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Speaker 3: very consciously aware that I was not up to par.
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Speaker 3: Like there were so many stick handling tests and my
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Speaker 3: right side just wasn't strong enough. And I mean, frankly,
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Speaker 3: it It still definitely isn't.
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Speaker 2: So they want a lot of players to be good
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Speaker 2: with both then? You have to.
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Speaker 3: Now it's pretty much not even, you always, of course,
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Speaker 3: have a dominant side, but you have to be able
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Speaker 3: to use both hands. Like it's just, yeah, you would
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Speaker 3: really stand out if you could not. So I just
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Speaker 3: didn't have to. The competition wasn't good enough in Minnesota.
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Speaker 3: So go to tryouts. I feel good about it. I
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Speaker 3: ended up being my best friend at school. Caitlin was
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Speaker 3: another walk-on. And she, end of the week, she texts
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Speaker 3: me that she makes the team, right? Or call, I
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Speaker 3: don't know if we were texting, emails me. And I
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Speaker 3: got an email that I did not. And I guess
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Speaker 3: it came from the head coach, Liz, at the time.
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Speaker 3: And I cannot, for the life of me, figure out
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Speaker 3: why I had the confidence to email her back and say,
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Speaker 3: I wish I could find the email. I looked and
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Speaker 3: it must have been my BU email so that I
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Speaker 3: don't have it anymore. But I put together a great
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Speaker 3: email and I basically listed all the reasons why that
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Speaker 3: was a mistake that I didn't make the team.
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Speaker 2: And I said, please give me another shot.
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Speaker 3: Like, just let me prove to you that I'm good
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Speaker 3: enough to be on this team because I really believe
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Speaker 3: that I am along those lines. And I remember sitting
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Speaker 3: there like, wow, I'm really, but why not? Like what,
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Speaker 3: where she says is absolutely not, this is crazy. And
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Speaker 3: I got an email back from her pretty quickly.
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Speaker 2: And all it said was like, please come to my office.
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Speaker 3: So I did, I sprinted over to the lacrosse office,
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Speaker 3: which was pretty close to my dorm at the time.
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Speaker 3: And she brought me in and she was like, I
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Speaker 3: have never had anyone do that. Like, respond to being
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Speaker 3: cut and say, no, no, no, you made a mistake
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Speaker 3: and I actually want to prove you wrong.
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Speaker 2: And she was like.
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Speaker 3: I don't know if I like it or I hate it,
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Speaker 3: but I guess I'm going to give you another shot.
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Speaker 3: And it was so crazy.
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Speaker 2: So I sat there. Wait, so your parents didn't tell
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Speaker 2: you to do it? Like nobody told you to do this? Mm-mm.
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Speaker 3: I remember someone, like my roommate, told me not to.
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Speaker 2: She was like, this is insane. You can't email her back.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I would probably say, yeah, probably not. Don't
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Speaker 2: do that. Don't do that.
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Speaker 3: And I just, I really truly believed that I was
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Speaker 3: supposed to play lacrosse at BU. I really felt it.
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Speaker 3: And I just, I did know I could be good enough.
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Speaker 3: And I did know I would improve given a chance
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Speaker 3: to play with such talented players. And I think she
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Speaker 3: kept me in her office and she ended up going
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Speaker 3: to the back and finding a jersey and some shorts.
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Speaker 3: And they were extra large. I do have a picture
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Speaker 3: of that. They were huge because she was like, I
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Speaker 3: don't have anything left. And I was number five. There
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Speaker 3: was no choice. She was like, this is the only
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Speaker 3: number we have left. And this is the only size
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Speaker 3: we have left. But yeah, you can come to practice
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Speaker 3: and we'll figure it out. So we had this plan,
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Speaker 3: like at the end of the month, we would reevaluate.
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Speaker 3: And it was the hardest month of my life, for sure.
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Speaker 3: And I did train and I would just sit on
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Speaker 3: the wall and just practice. And so my friend Caitlin
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Speaker 3: and I would do it together. We would just sit,
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Speaker 3: play wall ball and get better. Oh, man.
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Speaker 2: I did. I just I worked hard. I knew I
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Speaker 2: could hang.
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Speaker 3: And at the end of the month, she kind of
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Speaker 3: like I remember knocking on her office door and I
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Speaker 3: was like, hey, Liz, like and she was like, Jenny,
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Speaker 3: you know, you're on the team. Like, obviously, you made
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Speaker 3: the team. But I just still wanted her to say it.
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Speaker 3: So it was crazy. I mean, I truly got cut.
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Speaker 3: Emailed her back, said, please give me a shot. I
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Speaker 3: want to do whatever it takes to prove you wrong.
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Speaker 3: And It worked, and I played all four years, and
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Speaker 3: I ended up kind of earning scholarships along the way,
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Speaker 3: and it was an amazing experience, and I can't imagine
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Speaker 3: my BU time without lacrosse. I met Matt through playing lacrosse.
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Speaker 3: Just so many things. I think I truly was supposed
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Speaker 3: to be on that team. It took me a little
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Speaker 3: longer to get there, but yeah, that's my whatever-it-takes personal moment.
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Speaker 1: Wow, I absolutely love that. Were you always, do you
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Speaker 1: think you were always like that as a kid, young girl?
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Speaker 3: I was pretty confident and driven and not afraid to
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Speaker 3: share my opinion.
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Speaker 2: Although, you know, that's the part that's so crazy.
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Speaker 3: Like, I just, I've never had that thought before. Like,
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Speaker 3: I'm going to email a coach back after not making
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Speaker 3: the team. And maybe in a lot of ways, I
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Speaker 3: often did make the team. So I wasn't used to
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Speaker 3: that feeling. But yeah, I was not good enough when
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Speaker 3: I tried out. I know the level of my right
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Speaker 3: hand was not there.
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Speaker 2: So that was clear.
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Speaker 3: And I just felt like I needed more time to
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Speaker 3: to get better. And I'm just so grateful that I
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Speaker 3: was able to play the four years. And I, you know, Liz,
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Speaker 3: who is not the head coach anymore, but she's still
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Speaker 3: watches me like she'll send me notes at times like
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Speaker 3: about about, you know, watching me as a reporter and
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Speaker 3: remembering that.
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Speaker 2: So I think it's just one of those. It was
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Speaker 2: supposed to happen.
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Speaker 3: And I'm glad I followed that gut instinct to to.
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Speaker 2: Follow up there.
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Speaker 3: And she was she there the whole four years? She
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Speaker 3: was there the whole four years. And she had also
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Speaker 3: just gotten the job at BU. The previous coach left
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Speaker 3: kind of unexpectedly. So I think she was new. She
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Speaker 3: was like, I'm new.
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Speaker 2: You're new. You know, why not?
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Speaker 3: I can give this girl a try. But it's so,
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Speaker 3: I should probably ask her. Like, she really didn't have
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Speaker 3: to do that.
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Speaker 2: No, she didn't. And give me that opportunity.
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Speaker 1: I mean, she could have gave you an opportunity, but
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Speaker 1: she sounds like she Gave you the opportunity and said
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Speaker 1: you were on the team.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: So I made the team. Pretty cool. And I knew it.
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Speaker 2: At the end of the month, though, I did know
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Speaker 2: I was good enough.
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Speaker 3: It wasn't like, oh, no, I'm still not good enough,
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Speaker 3: but I'm going to convince myself, convince everyone to let
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Speaker 3: me stay. So that was just, I just think back
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Speaker 3: on how different my BU experience would have been. I
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Speaker 3: actually went out to the sailing team. for like a
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Speaker 3: day before lacrosse tryouts had happened. I was like, well,
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Speaker 3: this ain't it. It's not sailing. So I really wanted
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Speaker 3: to be.
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Speaker 2: Lacrosse needs to work. I just wanted lacrosse. And maybe
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Speaker 2: I would have tried to walk onto the hockey team.
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Speaker 3: That's another thing that sometimes comes to mind because I
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Speaker 3: was close with the ice hockey coach. He was a
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Speaker 3: pretty legendary women's ice hockey coach. And I really, I
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Speaker 3: liked him a lot. And I'm like, I think I
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Speaker 3: would have maybe been a better ice hockey player in
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Speaker 3: the end. But look, I'm just glad that lacrosse happened.
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Speaker 3: And yeah, that's my story.
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Speaker 2: I love that. Worked out. It's no surprise with your
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Speaker 2: resilience and hard work now and what you're doing. That's
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Speaker 2: really cool. Well, thank you.
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Speaker 3: I'm like trying to think if I ever get cut
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Speaker 3: from any broadcast things.
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Speaker 2: Actually, guys, you have this wrong. Please give me another shot.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah, I'll probably will
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Speaker 2: do that one day.
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Speaker 3: But yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. confident me back at.
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Speaker 1: BU drove through campus the other day that's great that's
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Speaker 1: awesome also we're old I feel old I know my
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Speaker 1: academic advisor I'm friends with actually started at Rutgers the
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Speaker 1: same time that I did and she just reminded me
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Speaker 1: actually 2001 because of all 9-11 coming up it was
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Speaker 1: 25 years she's like you've been out of college for
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Speaker 1: 25 years I'm like Oh, my goodness.
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Speaker 2: And she's like, and I've been at Rutgers for 25 years.
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Speaker 2: I'm like, wow. That is crazy. Crazy to think about.
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Speaker 2: It really is. It's going too fast.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Like, if only we could go back to our younger
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Speaker 1: years of not worry about some of the stuff that
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Speaker 1: we worried about and just kind of lived a little
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Speaker 1: bit more freely.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: And it felt so complicated at the time and hard
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Speaker 3: and busy. And, you know, now I'm around so many
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Speaker 3: college athletes. And this new era, you don't stay for
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Speaker 3: four years. And it's so wild to think back, right?
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Speaker 3: Like how different college experience would be for us now.
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Speaker 2: So different.
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Speaker 3: Had we had the opportunity. Maybe I would have transferred.
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Speaker 3: Because I didn't play a ton at BU. I did play.
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Speaker 3: Like it was still, I was still on the bottom
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Speaker 3: of the level. I mean, I played, but I was
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Speaker 3: still not our star player. I'm not going to confuse
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Speaker 3: the two. But we were really good. So I wonder, like,
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Speaker 3: if I would have had the opportunity to transfer, would
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Speaker 3: I have transferred?
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Speaker 2: Done that? I don't know.
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Speaker 3: I know.
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Speaker 1: That's a whole another topic in itself, which we could
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Speaker 1: probably bring up at one point.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to hear yours.
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Speaker 1: So my whatever it takes moment from a personal standpoint.
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Speaker 1: So I am the oldest of three. I have a
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Speaker 1: younger sister who's the middle, a younger brother. All of
16:57
Speaker 1: us played sports for the most part. We all played soccer,
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Speaker 1: but I was always... You know, I was just, that
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Speaker 1: was my obsession. I, my sister was a little bit
17:09
Speaker 1: more social than me, kind of enjoyed hanging with her friends.
17:13
Speaker 1: My brother, you know, kind of did both. But for me,
17:17
Speaker 1: I was always outside practicing. I was typical tomboy growing up,
17:22
Speaker 1: played any and all sports. Our house, we sat on
17:25
Speaker 1: the corner in Dahlrand, New Jersey, and there were just
17:29
Speaker 1: kids everywhere, which was so much fun. A little bit
17:33
Speaker 1: different than Harper and this next baby we'll be growing
17:36
Speaker 1: up with. We live a little bit more secluded on
17:38
Speaker 1: like eight acres. So I'm like, you know, there's pros
17:41
Speaker 1: and cons to both. But I loved, absolutely loved my
17:44
Speaker 1: childhood because I could go outside. I could play with
17:47
Speaker 1: the neighbor across the street, you know, play football and basketball.
17:52
Speaker 1: And I would actually play some roller hockey in the street.
17:56
Speaker 1: We would, you know, do all sorts of games and
17:58
Speaker 1: tag and jailbreak games. So I just kind of navigated
18:02
Speaker 1: through that whole life of the sports world.
18:06
Speaker 2: And there was a select team.
18:10
Speaker 1: I played town or rec soccer in Duran and then,
18:15
Speaker 1: you know, moved to travel. And unlike today's day and
18:20
Speaker 1: age where kids are specializing at the age of five, six,
18:24
Speaker 1: or seven, or, you know, getting a personal trainer at
18:27
Speaker 1: those ages or jumping right to clubs, I kind of
18:31
Speaker 1: took my time a little bit, and I was actually
18:33
Speaker 1: one of the first few that kind of considered leaving
18:38
Speaker 1: the town team, which was a huge deal.
18:40
Speaker 2: Okay.
18:41
Speaker 1: So I had this opportunity for the select team to
18:45
Speaker 1: try out, and I went. It was, you know, I
18:50
Speaker 1: think I was entering middle school age. And believe it or.
18:54
Speaker 2: Not, I didn't make it. And I was like, whoa, like...
18:59
Speaker 2: I mean, I thought I was pretty good. Really? And,
19:02
Speaker 2: you know, it's funny how things work out.
19:04
Speaker 1: Like you talk about you felt like you were meant
19:08
Speaker 1: to play lacrosse there.
19:10
Speaker 2: I do, yeah.
19:11
Speaker 1: And for me, I feel like things worked out the
19:16
Speaker 1: way that they were supposed to work out. And so
19:18
Speaker 1: I didn't make this team. And there was a dad
19:22
Speaker 1: who brought his daughter as well. She also didn't make
19:26
Speaker 1: the team.
19:27
Speaker 2: Hmm.
19:28
Speaker 1: Their good friend didn't make the team as well. And
19:32
Speaker 1: then there were these two other players that, you know,
19:37
Speaker 1: were close by that didn't make the team as well.
19:39
Speaker 2: So you had five of us that didn't make this team.
19:44
Speaker 1: And so what the dad did was he created another
19:48
Speaker 1: team shortly after that. And I got a letter from
19:51
Speaker 1: him asking if I wanted to join this team. And
19:54
Speaker 1: it was the Medford Strikers Soccer Club. Now the club was,
19:57
Speaker 1: you know, there were other teams, other age groups. It wasn't,
20:01
Speaker 1: I mean, we weren't, it wasn't like how clubs are
20:03
Speaker 1: now where they're, you know, kind of fully integrated together.
20:08
Speaker 1: Everybody sort of had their own, you know, their own
20:11
Speaker 1: coach and their own trainer. And you maybe saw some
20:14
Speaker 1: other teams and whatnot. And so, yeah, this dad started
20:18
Speaker 1: the team. I was one of the five original players
20:21
Speaker 1: that took place on this team. And it was honestly
20:25
Speaker 1: the best team I had ever played on. And not
20:27
Speaker 1: just from a successful standpoint. We did win two state championships.
20:33
Speaker 1: But just the camaraderie, the friendships. The amount of time
20:37
Speaker 1: we spent together.
20:38
Speaker 2: I was one of... Myself and another girl were.
20:42
Speaker 1: You know, we were a grade below everybody else. So
20:45
Speaker 1: once everybody reached the senior level, that was pretty much
20:49
Speaker 1: when our team had kind of dismantled and everybody went
20:52
Speaker 1: off to college.
20:54
Speaker 2: But we took trips together.
20:56
Speaker 1: We... you know, traveled together. We had dinners at people's houses.
21:01
Speaker 1: You know, we got recruited by colleges. We went to
21:04
Speaker 1: college showcase tournaments. And that was, you know, when I
21:07
Speaker 1: look back on my childhood, I'm like, of course I
21:09
Speaker 1: had fun on all these other teams and fun playing
21:12
Speaker 1: on the national team.
21:13
Speaker 2: It's just a different type of fun.
21:15
Speaker 1: But this was for me, like kind of where everything started,
21:21
Speaker 1: where my dreams kind of started. I then got, you know,
21:24
Speaker 1: offers for to go to college and And I think,
21:27
Speaker 1: you know, my whatever it takes moment was I just
21:31
Speaker 1: was willing to do what so many other players weren't
21:34
Speaker 1: willing to do. And that was pretty much dedicate my
21:38
Speaker 1: entire life to soccer because I loved it, you know,
21:40
Speaker 1: and it was an easy choice for me to make.
21:43
Speaker 1: But that just jumpstarted me through really everything. And my parents,
21:49
Speaker 1: you know, I grew up, you know, my parents didn't
21:51
Speaker 1: have a lot of money. It was expensive to play
21:54
Speaker 1: back then, believe it or not. It's even more expensive
21:57
Speaker 1: to play now. And I remember, you know, my dad
22:01
Speaker 1: actually would talk about it and, you know, they were obviously,
22:05
Speaker 1: you know, concerned about money and how they're going to
22:08
Speaker 1: pay and this and that. And he told my mom, look,
22:10
Speaker 1: I don't want you to complain about, not complain, but,
22:15
Speaker 1: you know, worry or complain about money. You know, we're
22:20
Speaker 1: going to do whatever it takes to give Carly the
22:24
Speaker 1: opportunities that that she needs. We don't know where this
22:28
Speaker 1: is going. We don't know if she's even going to
22:30
Speaker 1: get a college scholarship. We know she loves it. She's
22:34
Speaker 1: good at it. And we're going to do whatever it takes.
22:37
Speaker 1: And so I thought that that was really cool, you know,
22:40
Speaker 1: as parents to, yeah, I mean, to sometimes live paycheck
22:45
Speaker 1: to paycheck and have to go away to Cocoa Beach
22:49
Speaker 1: tournament and figure out, you know, how you're going to
22:51
Speaker 1: pay for it.
22:52
Speaker 2: But it just made me appreciate, you.
22:54
Speaker 1: Know, obviously now as an adult, just appreciate the way
22:59
Speaker 1: that I grew up. You know, I had one pair
23:01
Speaker 1: of cleats. I had some Copa cleats that had to
23:03
Speaker 1: last me an entire year. And I remember coming home
23:07
Speaker 1: from training and games and cleaning them off and polishing
23:12
Speaker 1: them up with some like leather conditioner just to make
23:15
Speaker 1: sure that they would last. Having one ball I remember
23:19
Speaker 1: giving my dad crap because he I had this brine
23:23
Speaker 1: ball that was brand new. And when I was playing
23:26
Speaker 1: through ODP, he decided to color every panel so that
23:32
Speaker 1: no one would take because people would take the balls.
23:34
Speaker 2: And I was like, you just destroyed my brand new ball.
23:38
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm forever.
23:39
Speaker 1: I'm forever like, you know. tarnished from that um so
23:43
Speaker 1: funny but yeah it just you know it kind of
23:46
Speaker 1: made me appreciate a lot of things and obviously I'm
23:49
Speaker 1: you know very grateful and it worked out you know
23:53
Speaker 1: not every situation like that works out but that was
23:55
Speaker 1: my kind of big moment that I would say that
24:00
Speaker 1: yeah that just kind of laid the foundation of sort
24:03
Speaker 1: of this trajectory of kind of where I went in
24:06
Speaker 1: my career.
24:08
Speaker 2: I love so much about that story, and I have
24:11
Speaker 2: so many questions.
24:13
Speaker 3: One thing about your parents, kind of whatever it takes
24:16
Speaker 3: to make sure you had those opportunities, did you personally
24:20
Speaker 3: feel that pressure?
24:21
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like we always, you know, when
24:23
Speaker 1: Christmas came and we weren't a family that went out
24:27
Speaker 1: to eat a lot, and I don't think a lot
24:30
Speaker 1: of families did that back then, but Yeah, I mean,
24:33
Speaker 1: I think being the oldest, I was four years older
24:36
Speaker 1: than my sister, seven from my brother. I mean, I
24:39
Speaker 1: knew that, you know, my parents, you know, we weren't
24:43
Speaker 1: poor by any means, but I knew that, you know,
24:46
Speaker 1: it took a lot out of them. It took that,
24:49
Speaker 1: but I didn't feel any sort of pressure from that standpoint.
24:53
Speaker 1: And like Christmas came and, you know, like we were given...
24:58
Speaker 1: things that meant a lot to us. It wasn't like
25:01
Speaker 1: a whole big extravaganza of gifts or like what Santa
25:06
Speaker 1: was bringing. But yeah, they just made it, they made
25:09
Speaker 1: it a great childhood for what they had and how
25:13
Speaker 1: they could, you know, do the means of providing and
25:17
Speaker 1: all of that. But I didn't really feel, I didn't
25:20
Speaker 1: feel the pressure per se to make it. Like I
25:23
Speaker 1: just watched Santa Djokovic's documentary on Amazon Prime.
25:27
Speaker 2: I need to watch it. I don't know if you
25:28
Speaker 2: watch that.
25:29
Speaker 1: I need to.
25:29
Speaker 2: Really good. Really good.
25:30
Speaker 3: Okay.
25:31
Speaker 1: I mean, from age 12, I mean, they were borrowing
25:34
Speaker 1: money from people. They were asking for investments and not
25:37
Speaker 1: only asking for investments, but him having, you know, contractually
25:43
Speaker 1: repaying some people.
25:44
Speaker 3: Wow.
25:45
Speaker 1: The money that they provided and then also a percentage
25:47
Speaker 1: on top of that. So, yeah, I didn't have anything
25:50
Speaker 1: like that in regards to the pressure.
25:53
Speaker 2: Interesting.
25:54
Speaker 3: And then, How about your team that you were so
25:57
Speaker 3: close with back then? Are you close with any of
26:00
Speaker 3: those teammates still?
26:02
Speaker 1: We've tried to keep in touch. I mean, we have
26:04
Speaker 1: so many memories. And unfortunately, the coach, he had passed away.
26:08
Speaker 1: You know, very sad. The five originals, they had all
26:13
Speaker 1: kind of come to my retirement ceremony that I had
26:16
Speaker 1: in my town recently. And they've been to, you know,
26:18
Speaker 1: some of the local games. Actually, one of the girls, too, within...
26:23
Speaker 1: The last year or two passed away as well, which
26:27
Speaker 1: is heartbreaking.
26:28
Speaker 2: Gosh, so hard. So, you know, things get weird as
26:31
Speaker 2: you get older.
26:32
Speaker 1: You know, things that you never thought about as kids. And, yeah,
26:37
Speaker 1: it was really sad because we just had so many
26:39
Speaker 1: memories together. But we're all, you know, we all, we haven't,
26:42
Speaker 1: it's hard now. I mean, we've had, us five originals,
26:45
Speaker 1: we kind of kept in touch. And then there were
26:47
Speaker 1: obviously other players who... had kind of come and gone
26:51
Speaker 1: throughout some of the moments. Some were only maybe there
26:54
Speaker 1: for a year.
26:56
Speaker 2: But yeah, we had just such a fun, fun, cool team.
27:00
Speaker 3: You were meant to be on that team, right? I mean,
27:02
Speaker 3: that kind of goes back to there was a reason
27:04
Speaker 3: you didn't make that team. Yeah. And that was all
27:07
Speaker 3: by design. And I don't think that stuff happens by chance.
27:12
Speaker 3: But I also can't imagine you getting cut from anything.
27:15
Speaker 3: It's really hard for.
27:15
Speaker 2: Me to picture. I know. I can't see it. Hard
27:18
Speaker 2: to believe, but I have been, I have definitely been
27:20
Speaker 2: cut from teams. I just, I don't know that version
27:24
Speaker 2: of you. I just don't know it.
27:25
Speaker 1: I know.
27:26
Speaker 2: Oh, well, I love that story. Thank you for sharing. Yeah.
27:30
Speaker 1: And I guess we can maybe take a quick break
27:33
Speaker 1: and then come back to our professional whatever it takes moments.
27:38
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll figure out the lighting. I've got like the
27:40
Speaker 2: sun beaming in on me. Yeah.
27:44
Speaker 1: I think I hear Harper waking up from her nap,
27:46
Speaker 1: so it's a perfect segue into our break.
27:49
Speaker 2: All right, go check out Harper. We'll be right back.
28:01
Speaker 2: Welcome back to Whatever It Takes.
28:04
Speaker 1: Harper's not crying anymore, so I think Brian grabbed her.
28:08
Speaker 1: Changed her. She can't get enough of being outside. She
28:11
Speaker 1: is like an outdoorsy girl.
28:13
Speaker 2: I love that.
28:15
Speaker 1: Loves the quad, loves the tractor, tells Brian where she
28:19
Speaker 1: wants to go on the rides.
28:21
Speaker 2: She's got places to be.
28:23
Speaker 3: How do you think that she will handle a little
28:28
Speaker 3: brother running around too?
28:29
Speaker 2: You know what? I don't know.
28:31
Speaker 1: I'm really curious. Today, she actually had her first day
28:35
Speaker 1: of school.
28:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, how did that go? I meant to ask.
28:37
Speaker 1: I mean, preschool, two and a half hours, two days
28:40
Speaker 1: a week. She did really well, yeah. I mean, she
28:42
Speaker 1: got a little weird when we were leaving, but they
28:45
Speaker 1: said she did great. She's very independent. She loves being outside.
28:49
Speaker 1: That's her happy place. They did sort of like handprints
28:53
Speaker 1: on a pizza box, and she didn't want to do it.
28:56
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's my, like, OCD of, like,
28:59
Speaker 1: wiping her hands off all the time.
29:02
Speaker 3: Probably.
29:02
Speaker 2: She's like, I'm not getting messy. Yeah. But, yeah, no,
29:05
Speaker 2: it was good. It's good, so. Oh, gosh. I'm happy
29:08
Speaker 2: that she's doing that. How old is Harper exactly? She is, like,
29:12
Speaker 2: a month shy of two. That's what I was thinking.
29:15
Speaker 2: She's pretty young. She just started. Two and a half. Like, yeah.
29:18
Speaker 2: And that's the class she's in.
29:20
Speaker 3: Yeah.
29:20
Speaker 2: It's technically two and a half. Two and a half. Yeah,
29:23
Speaker 2: it's good for her.
29:30
Speaker 3: I mean, I loved the little school that Gigi... She's
29:32
Speaker 3: at a new school now, but I love the little community.
29:34
Speaker 2: And you meet people in the same stage, which is
29:37
Speaker 2: kind of fun. Yes, it's all good.
29:39
Speaker 1: My sister sent all three of her girls there. Her
29:42
Speaker 1: youngest is actually still there. So it was so cute
29:44
Speaker 1: when we pulled up, you know, Evie and Harper saw
29:47
Speaker 1: Evie ran to her.
29:48
Speaker 2: And yeah, it was exciting to see. They love seeing
29:52
Speaker 2: each other. So it was cool. Oh, I love it. Okay, well, I.
29:59
Speaker 2: I'm still distracted by the light. The light, yeah, you
30:01
Speaker 2: got some.
30:02
Speaker 3: I'm just going to go really close to talk to you.
30:05
Speaker 3: I would love your professional whatever-it-takes moment because there's so
30:10
Speaker 3: many directions.
30:11
Speaker 2: You could go. Soccer, broadcasting. Curious what comes to mind.
30:16
Speaker 2: So I think it's interesting.
30:18
Speaker 1: I kind of like to chop up my life into
30:22
Speaker 1: like two halves, like the first half being a youth player,
30:26
Speaker 1: second half being, you know, kind of in the professional
30:29
Speaker 1: realm of things. I was, the way I was as
30:34
Speaker 1: a young girl growing up, I was very talented.
30:37
Speaker 2: I was very driven. Like you, I always felt like
30:40
Speaker 2: I could prove people wrong.
30:42
Speaker 1: And if somebody told me I couldn't do something, I
30:44
Speaker 1: was going to be able to show them that I
30:46
Speaker 1: could do it. And so all of that, that love, passion,
30:50
Speaker 1: that dedication for Soccer in particular is what drove me
30:55
Speaker 1: and what laid the foundation for everything. Had I not
30:58
Speaker 1: had that or had my parents forced me to do things,
31:02
Speaker 1: my career wouldn't have turned out the way that it did.
31:04
Speaker 2: So I kind of went through.
31:06
Speaker 1: Life just being the best on all the teams I
31:09
Speaker 1: played on. And when I talked about my personal, whatever
31:14
Speaker 1: it takes moment of not making that team. And you
31:17
Speaker 1: were shocked to hear that I didn't make teams. Well,
31:20
Speaker 1: I didn't make teams. And I think that that was
31:23
Speaker 1: an important.
31:24
Speaker 2: Aspect to a lot of things. And I was always
31:29
Speaker 2: used to kind of making some teams.
31:31
Speaker 1: And as I got older, I was on the under
31:34
Speaker 1: 21 national team and I didn't make that team. There
31:39
Speaker 1: was a selection for a Nordic Cup tournament that happened
31:42
Speaker 1: every summer. And I was told that I was pretty talented,
31:47
Speaker 1: but I wasn't fit enough and just wasn't good enough
31:50
Speaker 1: to be on the team.
31:51
Speaker 2: And I was pretty shocked.
31:53
Speaker 1: And immediately, my reaction was to blame the coach and
31:57
Speaker 1: blame the players and look for excuses of any which
32:01
Speaker 1: way that I could. And I was angry, went home,
32:04
Speaker 1: told my parents that I didn't want to play anymore and,
32:08
Speaker 1: you know, just take the easy way out and just
32:11
Speaker 1: finish out my collegiate career at Rutgers University. And then
32:15
Speaker 1: I don't know what I would do. So obviously they
32:18
Speaker 1: didn't want to see that happen. And I, you know,
32:22
Speaker 1: had to figure out what I wanted to do. My
32:26
Speaker 1: dad actually introduced me to a local trainer who I
32:31
Speaker 1: ended up working with for a really long time, which
32:34
Speaker 1: didn't end well, um, He's pretty narcissistic and controlling and manipulative.
32:41
Speaker 2: At the time, we obviously didn't know that.
32:44
Speaker 1: But what's really weird is in a strange, weird way,
32:49
Speaker 1: he still helped me. And I obviously helped him pretty
32:54
Speaker 1: much built his entire empire on the success that I
32:57
Speaker 1: had as a player. And so one of the big
33:00
Speaker 1: things with me was to change my mindset. I think
33:06
Speaker 1: when I look at my whatever it takes moment of
33:09
Speaker 1: why I made it, of course you can say, you know,
33:11
Speaker 1: you got to work hard and you got to be
33:13
Speaker 1: dedicated and do all these things. But I was willing
33:17
Speaker 1: to do what most people weren't willing to do. And
33:20
Speaker 1: it wasn't all the easy things. It was doing all
33:22
Speaker 1: of the things that, quite frankly, was the reason why
33:25
Speaker 1: I didn't make the under 21 team.
33:27
Speaker 2: Or maybe I.
33:28
Speaker 1: Didn't reach the heights that I could have in college.
33:33
Speaker 1: I wasn't physically fit.
33:34
Speaker 2: I wasn't mentally strong and tough enough. I made excuses.
33:39
Speaker 1: I pointed fingers and nothing was being looked at internally of,
33:44
Speaker 1: you know, how can I be the best? And so
33:46
Speaker 1: I basically changed my mindset of competing against myself, putting
33:51
Speaker 1: myself in uncomfortable positions, doing all the things that I
33:54
Speaker 1: absolutely hated doing. And that meant starting to run and
33:58
Speaker 1: starting to get myself fit. What's funny is that everybody
34:01
Speaker 1: kind of talks about my career as, being fit.
34:04
Speaker 2: And I'm sure you have.
34:06
Speaker 1: Only known me as being someone that.
34:11
Speaker 2: Would do whatever it takes, right? Would run through a
34:14
Speaker 2: brick wall.
34:14
Speaker 1: But I actually wasn't like that for the whole first
34:17
Speaker 1: half of my life.
34:20
Speaker 2: It was hard for me to even go on a
34:21
Speaker 2: 10 minute run. No way.
34:23
Speaker 3: Yeah.
34:24
Speaker 2: Hated it. Brian knows because, you know, we've been dating
34:28
Speaker 2: since high school. It took me, oh man.
34:31
Speaker 1: Those first few runs, it probably took me an hour
34:34
Speaker 1: and a half to get myself out of the door.
34:36
Speaker 2: What? Like you would just... To go for a 12,
34:39
Speaker 2: 10 to 12 minute run.
34:40
Speaker 3: Really?
34:40
Speaker 2: I'd get like a cramp and I'd get this, yeah.
34:44
Speaker 2: It was really difficult. I was really unfit.
34:46
Speaker 3: So the mindset, but unfit, okay, so that's still crazy
34:49
Speaker 3: to me. You were still playing soccer though. You just
34:51
Speaker 3: were not needing to be more fit at the time?
34:55
Speaker 2: I was, I was talented. I.
34:59
Speaker 1: could do a lot of things other players couldn't do,
35:02
Speaker 1: there would be a moment, right? And I.
35:07
Speaker 2: Would pull something out and do something. With a natural gift.
35:12
Speaker 2: Natural gift.
35:13
Speaker 1: But as we know, talent alone can only get you
35:17
Speaker 1: so far. And so once you get to the national
35:20
Speaker 1: team level, everybody's talented. Everybody has those unique traits that
35:25
Speaker 1: make them great, that make them part of a national
35:28
Speaker 1: team program. And so I had to do all these
35:30
Speaker 1: other extra things to make sure that that is what
35:37
Speaker 1: separated me from everybody else. So I was willing to then,
35:41
Speaker 1: I made a commitment to myself at that point, from
35:45
Speaker 1: the moment I start to the moment I'm done, that
35:48
Speaker 1: I'm going to commit myself to do anything possible. to
35:51
Speaker 1: do whatever it takes. And if that meant training on
35:53
Speaker 1: Christmas morning, I would do that. If that meant, you know,
35:56
Speaker 1: training nine.
35:57
Speaker 2: O'clock at night, I would do that.
35:59
Speaker 1: If that meant I'm doing an appearance on the road
36:03
Speaker 1: and I'm in a hotel and I can't find a
36:04
Speaker 1: patch of grass to do some extra running, I run
36:07
Speaker 1: the stairwell. It's just no excuses, doing whatever it takes
36:12
Speaker 1: to make something possible.
36:14
Speaker 2: And that was sort of, that was just my MO,
36:17
Speaker 2: like my entire career. And I didn't stop.
36:20
Speaker 1: And I was obsessed with improving, doing extra, everything just
36:25
Speaker 1: kind of consumed my mind, making sure I was getting
36:28
Speaker 1: enough reps, you know, always thinking about, well, I know
36:31
Speaker 1: I'm training more than this person next to me and
36:34
Speaker 1: this player, but also just focusing on myself and competing
36:37
Speaker 1: against myself. Like no one else was my competition, but myself,
36:40
Speaker 1: holding myself accountable. And then, you know, obviously that bled
36:45
Speaker 1: into kind of off the field things as well, all
36:48
Speaker 1: the opportunities that I had and making sure I treat
36:50
Speaker 1: people with respect and even people that could never do
36:54
Speaker 1: anything for me. You know, that was just, I always
36:57
Speaker 1: wanted to make people feel good about themselves and be
37:01
Speaker 1: respectful of them. And yeah, taking reps, doing speaking engagements,
37:06
Speaker 1: preparing for interviews. I was telling you before, I believe
37:09
Speaker 1: in one of the interviews, one of the episodes that
37:12
Speaker 1: we did.
37:12
Speaker 2: Of, you know, that essentially helped my TV.
37:16
Speaker 1: To this very, very day, you know, and doing that.
37:21
Speaker 2: So, Yeah, I think that was the biggest thing is
37:24
Speaker 2: just kind of that shift in mindset.
37:26
Speaker 1: And I had to really do a complete like 360.
37:30
Speaker 3: Do you remember the day where you made that commitment
37:34
Speaker 3: to yourself or the situation? Were you at training? Was
37:38
Speaker 3: this a conversation with your coach? And you just said, look,
37:41
Speaker 3: I'm committing to this. I'm going to always do more.
37:44
Speaker 2: Yeah.
37:46
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was kind of, you know, sitting down with
37:48
Speaker 1: him and talking about what I wanted. And I obviously
37:52
Speaker 1: wanted to play on the U.S. Women's National Team. That
37:54
Speaker 1: was my goal. And I would say that I was 90% there, right?
38:00
Speaker 1: There's all these small margins when you get to the top,
38:04
Speaker 1: but they make all the difference. So that extra 10%
38:08
Speaker 1: of somebody believing in me, somebody helping me, steer me
38:14
Speaker 1: in the right direction, change my mindset, you know, those
38:18
Speaker 1: things were something that I needed that I really hadn't
38:22
Speaker 1: gotten up until that point. So it was sitting down,
38:25
Speaker 1: it was committing to that and saying, okay, like these
38:28
Speaker 1: are the things I'm going to have to do.
38:30
Speaker 2: It's not going to be easy. And it was not easy.
38:32
Speaker 1: I mean, the beginning of, you know, having to barely
38:35
Speaker 1: being able to run 10 minutes straight as a soccer player.
38:39
Speaker 1: I mean, that's really quite embarrassing to then running 90
38:43
Speaker 1: minutes straight. Like that was my goal.
38:45
Speaker 2: And then it just became, it became part of me.
38:49
Speaker 1: It became so easy to just go out and go
38:52
Speaker 1: for a run and do what I needed to do.
38:54
Speaker 2: And there were moments though, where I had.
38:57
Speaker 1: To push myself a little bit more. And then again,
39:00
Speaker 1: I feel like kind of every moment you get to
39:04
Speaker 1: where you're pushing yourself a little bit more, it does
39:07
Speaker 1: get a little harder. But then once you hit that threshold,
39:10
Speaker 1: like then your body can be pushed even more. It
39:12
Speaker 1: just is this cycle of just, yeah, pushing your body
39:16
Speaker 1: to limits that you don't think you can, but the
39:20
Speaker 1: mind is the most powerful thing. So yeah, I don't
39:23
Speaker 1: think I was giving myself as much credit as I
39:27
Speaker 1: should have because I was the woman in the arena. Yes,
39:30
Speaker 1: I had someone helping me and people helping me, but
39:34
Speaker 1: I was actually the one that was getting the job
39:36
Speaker 1: done inside that arena.
39:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, you had to show up.
39:40
Speaker 3: And do you enjoy the running and the fitness now?
39:45
Speaker 3: I mean, I know being pregnant is a different scenario,
39:47
Speaker 3: but the work that went into your fitness, like, do
39:50
Speaker 3: you still take joy in that?
39:52
Speaker 1: It's definitely harder. I mean, I've been out of the
39:55
Speaker 1: game now for five years, which is crazy. I think
39:57
Speaker 1: this November will be five years. It was Carly. I don't, yeah, this,
40:02
Speaker 1: this episode, I'm not sure when this episode will be dropping,
40:04
Speaker 1: but I will definitely have had the baby by then.
40:09
Speaker 1: So yeah, two, two kids later, I thought that I
40:12
Speaker 1: was going to still have the passion to not hardcore train,
40:17
Speaker 1: but like go out and it'd be easy, but it
40:21
Speaker 1: wasn't that easy because I felt like it was, it
40:24
Speaker 1: consumed me so much and I was motivated by wanting
40:28
Speaker 1: to be the best that I possibly could be. So
40:31
Speaker 1: it was easy to get myself out and go do that.
40:34
Speaker 1: I think now it's turned into burning calories and just
40:38
Speaker 1: keeping myself healthy and moving. But I am looking forward to,
40:41
Speaker 1: you know, post-pregnancy of like getting myself back fit and
40:45
Speaker 1: healthy and just all the things. But it was a
40:49
Speaker 1: harder adjustment than I had thought. That makes sense.
40:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it does make sense. I went on a
40:57
Speaker 2: run today.
40:57
Speaker 3: It was like, I was back to the, it's hard
41:00
Speaker 3: for me to run 10 minutes vibes today, but I
41:02
Speaker 3: did it.
41:03
Speaker 2: How long did you run?
41:03
Speaker 1: I put it off.
41:04
Speaker 2: I ran like three miles. It was slow. That's good.
41:07
Speaker 3: It was a beautiful day in Boston. Frankly, the running
41:10
Speaker 3: for me is more the mental I enjoy just being
41:14
Speaker 3: outside and listening to music. I sometimes can listen to
41:18
Speaker 3: a podcast, but most of the time I just want
41:21
Speaker 3: to not, I just turn off my brain with a run. Yeah.
41:25
Speaker 1: And I'm like a 20 to 30 minute runner now.
41:30
Speaker 1: Just because I've beaten up my body so badly that,
41:33
Speaker 1: you know, I prefer to be able to do this
41:36
Speaker 1: as long as I can.
41:37
Speaker 3: I think your mindset and just, I think at another episode,
41:41
Speaker 3: we should dig into it even more, just the training
41:45
Speaker 3: and the commitment, because I do think some listeners would
41:48
Speaker 3: learn a lot from what you went through in that
41:50
Speaker 3: respect and also listeners who have kids. And it still
41:54
Speaker 3: has to be self-driven, the success. We could go in
41:57
Speaker 3: about that, right? But how many athletes that we've now
42:01
Speaker 3: been around, it has to come from the athlete. And
42:03
Speaker 3: in your case, it was you. You made the choice
42:05
Speaker 3: to be the best and you put the work in.
42:07
Speaker 3: So it very much inspires me.
42:09
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Yeah. And on the broadcasting side, just to
42:12
Speaker 1: touch on that, like very briefly, it was, again, sort
42:16
Speaker 1: of the same thing of just being uncomfortable.
42:20
Speaker 2: Like I didn't want to do it. I didn't want
42:21
Speaker 2: to enter the TV space, the media space. But I'm like,
42:24
Speaker 2: you know what? This is what I did my entire career.
42:27
Speaker 1: I put myself in uncomfortable positions and I worked on
42:31
Speaker 1: things I wasn't good at and I was vulnerable and
42:34
Speaker 1: I did it. And I was like really thankful that
42:37
Speaker 1: I did it. So, and I'm very thankful that I
42:39
Speaker 1: tried to be a studio analyst.
42:42
Speaker 2: I love it. I love, I mean, thank goodness. Because
42:43
Speaker 2: we probably wouldn't be doing our podcast together at all.
42:46
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm so glad. Who would have thought? I always
42:49
Speaker 3: think back on 2015. Jenny and Carla are going to
42:52
Speaker 3: have a podcast one day.
42:53
Speaker 2: That I love. I love the visual of the beginning.
42:56
Speaker 3: Well, I love your story and I think it does
42:59
Speaker 3: serve as a great reminder for so many that the
43:02
Speaker 3: mindset and the strength needed, you can accomplish what you
43:06
Speaker 3: want to accomplish if you put your mind to it,
43:07
Speaker 3: which you're the perfect example of that. So I think
43:10
Speaker 3: we should take a quick break and I will share
43:13
Speaker 3: my professional whatever it takes moment after the break.
43:28
Speaker 2: All righty. Welcome back.
43:29
Speaker 1: To whatever it takes I'm out of breath because I
43:33
Speaker 1: need to have this baby ASAP sitting here sitting sitting
43:38
Speaker 1: has now become very uncomfortable we can.
43:41
Speaker 3: Do standing podcasts together I know I know I'm like
43:45
Speaker 3: yeah the sitting I can imagine that's it's time you're feeling.
43:49
Speaker 1: It low feeling it but anyway so I've shared my
43:52
Speaker 1: whatever it takes moment from a professional standpoint and now
43:56
Speaker 1: it's time to hear yours.
43:59
Speaker 2: Well, thank you.
44:00
Speaker 3: It's fun to think about these because it does feel
44:03
Speaker 3: like in various stages of life, we have examples. So
44:07
Speaker 3: I'm going to share, you know, my early days at Fox.
44:11
Speaker 3: And we've talked a little bit about it in some
44:13
Speaker 3: other podcasts. But, you know, I got the job at
44:16
Speaker 3: FS1 in 2013, moved to LA, knew no one, really
44:22
Speaker 3: believed I should be a reporter and believed in myself.
44:25
Speaker 3: But They hired me really without any idea of what
44:28
Speaker 3: I would do. I got hired as a desk reporter,
44:31
Speaker 3: and it was three things you need to know. So
44:33
Speaker 3: I would come on air and we'd say, hi, I'm Jenny,
44:36
Speaker 3: and here are three things you need to know happening
44:39
Speaker 3: in sports today. That is since, you know, disappeared, that role.
44:43
Speaker 3: But it was a great way to get in the door.
44:45
Speaker 3: So I think I a little bit shared this story
44:47
Speaker 3: with you, but my first real big break at Fox
44:49
Speaker 3: was covering motocross.
44:51
Speaker 2: And I a little bit lied.
44:53
Speaker 3: I feel like lying isn't great to admit, but Jacob Ullman,
44:57
Speaker 3: who's still at Fox, and a dear friend because he
45:00
Speaker 3: really ultimately also trusted, you know, me enough to give
45:04
Speaker 3: me the audition in the first place.
45:05
Speaker 2: To get to FS1.
45:06
Speaker 3: But he and I were passing each other in the
45:08
Speaker 3: hallway and he was like, what do you know about motorcycles?
45:11
Speaker 2: And I said, oh, Ricky Carmichael, he's the GOAT. And
45:14
Speaker 2: that is true. I did know that. But that was it.
45:17
Speaker 2: That was the extent of my moto knowledge.
45:19
Speaker 3: And my brother had been a motorcycle fan, or at
45:21
Speaker 3: least he was a BMX fan, you know, like the
45:24
Speaker 3: video games back in the day and So I knew so,
45:27
Speaker 3: so little. And they were looking for a reporter to
45:29
Speaker 3: cover Supercross. It's going to air on FS1. It was
45:33
Speaker 3: a 17-week season. So I would travel.
45:37
Speaker 2: I know.
45:38
Speaker 3: And I did it for five years, which thinking about
45:40
Speaker 3: that now, a couple of years, I would do football.
45:44
Speaker 3: Once I finally got the chance to cover football, I
45:46
Speaker 3: was doing a football season and a Supercross season. So
45:49
Speaker 3: I was pretty much on the road for two full
45:52
Speaker 3: football seasons back to back. But I got a chance
45:56
Speaker 3: to cover Supercross, and I had the most amazing producers
46:02
Speaker 3: and teammates and, you know, co-workers because they all embraced
46:05
Speaker 3: me and welcomed me, but I studied and studied and
46:09
Speaker 3: learned it and just became a part of that Supercross community,
46:14
Speaker 3: so much so that I still watch the races. You know,
46:16
Speaker 3: some of the riders I'm still in contact with, their families,
46:20
Speaker 3: but it was... this whatever it takes, I will do
46:23
Speaker 3: whatever it takes to figure out this job, to learn
46:26
Speaker 3: this sport. And it was so scary, but it was
46:31
Speaker 3: also so rewarding at the same time. So I like
46:33
Speaker 3: to remind reporters, the dream might be college football, and
46:37
Speaker 3: I'm so glad, or football, that I'm covering it, but
46:39
Speaker 3: that doesn't have to be the start. Like, you can
46:41
Speaker 3: cover anything. You can learn any single sport. You can
46:44
Speaker 3: learn anything. Like, you're never too old. You know, I
46:48
Speaker 3: know a ton about ice hockey. I've never really worked
46:50
Speaker 3: in it.
46:51
Speaker 2: But it's just the repetition of... It's the reps.
46:54
Speaker 1: Yes.
46:54
Speaker 2: And Supercross was that.
46:56
Speaker 1: I cannot imagine Super... I mean, it's not like you're
46:59
Speaker 1: coming into this and it's like, I don't know, field hockey.
47:05
Speaker 2: It was Supercross. So I knew nothing. Nothing.
47:07
Speaker 3: And the thing about the sport that is so cool,
47:11
Speaker 3: these are athletes that are incredibly talented. I would put
47:14
Speaker 3: their fitness up against any sport because if you think
47:17
Speaker 3: of it, almost like a jockey on a motorcycle and
47:20
Speaker 3: how heavy a motorcycle is and how fit these guys are.
47:22
Speaker 3: Their cycling, their fitness is just endurance. It's the cardiovascular training,
47:28
Speaker 3: the endurance. I mean, just incredible athletes. And I absolutely
47:33
Speaker 3: loved doing this. Like it was the highlight. One of
47:36
Speaker 3: the highlights of my career was covering a sport I
47:38
Speaker 3: knew nothing about with amazing people, amazing athletes.
47:42
Speaker 2: And it was on.
47:43
Speaker 3: Fox for five years. I think I did all five years.
47:47
Speaker 3: So it ended up, it didn't get re-signed by FS1,
47:51
Speaker 3: but I still watch it. I mean, I've gone to
47:53
Speaker 3: the races. I'm in touch with one of the chiropractors who,
47:58
Speaker 3: if you can put Supercross guys, moto guys back together,
48:01
Speaker 3: you're a really good chiropractor.
48:02
Speaker 2: It's a great sign.
48:03
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
48:03
Speaker 2: And he's in Newport.
48:05
Speaker 3: And I just visited him when I was there for
48:06
Speaker 3: the World Cup and got an adjustment and just saw him.
48:09
Speaker 3: So I just think that a lot of people, I
48:12
Speaker 3: remember some other people that I worked with kind of
48:14
Speaker 3: looking down on Supercross in a way of like, oh,
48:17
Speaker 3: you're going to go cover motorcycle racing. And it was
48:21
Speaker 3: the best thing that ever happened to me. So I
48:22
Speaker 3: always just say, take the job, do the homework, you'll
48:26
Speaker 3: figure it out.
48:27
Speaker 2: And get the reps because Supercross, I was always on air.
48:31
Speaker 2: I would do broadcasts.
48:32
Speaker 3: It was actually one French rider, Melvin Musquin, and I
48:37
Speaker 3: remember interviewing him in French. Like, had I not done
48:40
Speaker 3: that at Supercross, there's no way I would have had
48:42
Speaker 3: the confidence to do it with the French national team
48:44
Speaker 3: at a World Cup. It's another whatever it takes a
48:47
Speaker 3: little bit because my French isn't perfect, but I found
48:50
Speaker 3: a way to make it work.
48:51
Speaker 2: It sounded good to me.
48:52
Speaker 3: You know.
48:53
Speaker 2: It was good enough. It wasn't perfect.
48:55
Speaker 1: And maybe if you had just gone right into college
48:59
Speaker 1: football or some other big sport, not that there was
49:03
Speaker 1: room for error for you, but you probably didn't feel
49:06
Speaker 1: a whole lot of sense of enormous pressure, right?
49:10
Speaker 2: So you could try to make some mistakes.
49:13
Speaker 3: I did feel pressure because I was so new into
49:17
Speaker 3: the sport. I was very aware of how I would
49:21
Speaker 3: talk about the riders and the racing and the whoops
49:24
Speaker 3: and the jumps. And I was just so aware that
49:27
Speaker 3: I didn't want to make a mistake. But I also
49:29
Speaker 3: really believed in my storytelling. And I agree with you.
49:32
Speaker 3: You know, you have to get your rep somewhere. I
49:34
Speaker 3: don't care if you go pretend to go if you
49:37
Speaker 3: go if you want to be a reporter. I think now, too,
49:40
Speaker 3: I get a lot of college students who want to
49:42
Speaker 3: do what I'm doing. And I always say, well, what
49:44
Speaker 3: are you doing now? And it's kind of hard for
49:46
Speaker 3: me if they're not doing anything in terms of practicing.
49:49
Speaker 3: Because nowadays, go to a high school football game, set
49:53
Speaker 3: up a camera, and just pretend. Make up stories. Pretend
49:57
Speaker 3: like you're going to interview the coach. You really can
49:59
Speaker 3: practice nowadays. So for me, covering racing was this great
50:05
Speaker 3: chance to do something totally new.
50:07
Speaker 2: And there was... less pressure, yes, than a football game.
50:10
Speaker 3: But, you know, Supergrass has this loyal fan base that
50:13
Speaker 3: watches every Saturday and they'll let you know if.
50:18
Speaker 2: You make a mistake.
50:19
Speaker 3: So it was still very apparent that, you know, people
50:22
Speaker 3: are watching and listening and in TV they always are.
50:25
Speaker 3: But I just, I remember I got this huge book
50:28
Speaker 3: about motorcycles, you know, and I just studied it and
50:31
Speaker 3: I studied it, you know, I learned from others and
50:34
Speaker 3: I absolutely loved it. So it's, Just you never know
50:37
Speaker 3: what opportunities will come your way. But if you didn't
50:40
Speaker 3: take that, what would have happened? I would not have
50:43
Speaker 3: covered you at a World Cup.
50:44
Speaker 1: So because you didn't know the sport and you had
50:46
Speaker 1: to prepare a lot, did that help your preparation for
50:51
Speaker 1: then going into all the other TV stuff that you did?
50:54
Speaker 3: Sure.
50:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a great point.
50:56
Speaker 3: I think so much of what I do, you know,
51:00
Speaker 3: nowadays you just I had a girl shadow me last
51:03
Speaker 3: weekend and she was like, how do you prepare for teams?
51:05
Speaker 3: And there's no perfect way. I, especially in college football,
51:10
Speaker 3: the teams change every week for me. I get lucky
51:12
Speaker 3: that I have a, you know, this week I'm going
51:13
Speaker 3: to Ohio State and then I'm going to have Ohio
51:15
Speaker 3: State back to back. Incredible that I can just be
51:17
Speaker 3: with teams back to back. But it really is just
51:20
Speaker 3: deep diving on all the teams, players, just storylines. I
51:23
Speaker 3: almost go down these crazy Google searches and just see what,
51:26
Speaker 3: where I find stories and themes. You're watching a lot
51:29
Speaker 3: of games with Supercrosses. With that as an example, I
51:32
Speaker 3: would watch races back. I would watch what other reporters
51:35
Speaker 3: would do. I would watch myself back. I mean, I
51:37
Speaker 3: used to rewatch myself a lot.
51:40
Speaker 2: And now I do. Which isn't easy. It's not easy.
51:44
Speaker 2: It's not easy.
51:45
Speaker 3: I mean, I just watched my report from halftime last
51:48
Speaker 3: weekend because I thought I said something a little bit
51:51
Speaker 3: weird and I actually didn't.
51:52
Speaker 2: My hair looked bad. Like, I don't love watching myself back.
51:56
Speaker 2: No one wanted to tell me just to like Uh-huh.
51:59
Speaker 2: Your crew didn't tell you? I got to remind them, no.
52:02
Speaker 3: I mean, it was a small minor, but, you know,
52:04
Speaker 3: I did watch myself back and learn from it and
52:07
Speaker 3: study it. And I'm just glad I was able to
52:09
Speaker 3: get the reps of doing something like that and learning
52:13
Speaker 3: a sport.
52:13
Speaker 2: And it was just, it changed my life. So that's
52:16
Speaker 2: a fun one for me. Yeah, I love that.
52:18
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's where I'm like, we're very
52:21
Speaker 1: similar because I think nowadays, like you mentioned, today's generation,
52:27
Speaker 1: they almost want to skip all these steps. And we've
52:30
Speaker 1: talked on our pod before about the long game approach
52:33
Speaker 1: and just doing all the steps that maybe aren't directly
52:39
Speaker 1: as to what you want in your life or you're
52:42
Speaker 1: striving for, but all these little steps just add up
52:45
Speaker 1: and the repetition. And for me, speaking and taking some
52:51
Speaker 1: of these small speaking engagements to little companies in the
52:55
Speaker 1: beginning of my career, which I absolutely hated and was uncomfortable,
52:58
Speaker 1: but then essentially has helped me now in my life,
53:02
Speaker 1: you know, and, and doing all that and speaking publicly.
53:05
Speaker 1: But I think that's what's, you know, you and I
53:08
Speaker 1: both have just taken these opportunities and done whatever it takes.
53:12
Speaker 2: And, you know, I mean, I don't know if I
53:15
Speaker 2: could cover. You could.
53:16
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I know Brian, he does do a
53:20
Speaker 1: little dirt bike riding and stuff.
53:22
Speaker 2: Do you guys have a dirt bike in your backyard?
53:24
Speaker 1: I mean, he does. I can't figure out the... I'm
53:27
Speaker 1: a four-wheel girl.
53:29
Speaker 3: Yeah. It's not a sport, as much as I enjoyed it,
53:32
Speaker 3: it's a dangerous sport that I would have a hard
53:34
Speaker 3: time watching my kids.
53:35
Speaker 2: If they really wanted to... It's going to be hard.
53:37
Speaker 3: If our kids are passionate about whatever they want to do,
53:40
Speaker 3: of course, we're going to probably want to support them.
53:42
Speaker 3: But that wouldn't be one I would push purely because
53:44
Speaker 3: I've just seen so many injuries.
53:45
Speaker 2: But I think a lot of people in that world
53:47
Speaker 2: would say the same thing.
53:48
Speaker 3: I mean, I've... There were times during Supercross, and there's
53:51
Speaker 3: one specifically that I remember where I did not know if.
53:54
Speaker 2: Someone was okay. Yikes.
53:57
Speaker 3: And I'm going over there to find out. Of course,
53:59
Speaker 3: there's a medical crew, but there are just some really,
54:02
Speaker 3: really gnarly, dangerous injuries. But also, there's so much fitness
54:06
Speaker 3: in it as well. And I just have so much
54:09
Speaker 3: respect for them. Even NASCAR, race car drivers, Formula One.
54:13
Speaker 3: I think when you don't know about the sport, you
54:16
Speaker 3: don't know what it entails and what goes through it.
54:20
Speaker 3: But yeah, those, those guys and gals. Yeah.
54:24
Speaker 2: There's some gals. I know.
54:25
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
54:26
Speaker 2: There's guys and gals. So where would you be stationed
54:29
Speaker 2: when you were covering Supercross?
54:31
Speaker 3: Supercross is fun because there's two different seasons in the,
54:35
Speaker 3: the sport is motocross, right? There's a summer like season
54:39
Speaker 3: and then there's Supercross, which is kind of the winter.
54:41
Speaker 3: It starts after the new year and they race in stadiums. So,
54:45
Speaker 3: The locations were actually very fun. Like we would be
54:47
Speaker 3: in major stadiums. I went to see Supercross when it
54:51
Speaker 3: was here in Boston at Gillette. So like you're in
54:54
Speaker 3: major stadiums. So that's kind of fun. Like we'd go
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Speaker 3: to MetLife. We would go all over the place. So
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Speaker 3: I had a really good time kind of experiencing the
55:01
Speaker 3: racing in that way.
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Speaker 2: And the fans are obsessed. Like they show up. So
55:06
Speaker 2: it has a following. It has a niche audience. I
55:09
Speaker 2: still get messages on my social like, come back to Supercross.
55:13
Speaker 2: That's cool.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
55:14
Speaker 2: And Jamie Little. Yeah, it really is.
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Speaker 3: She's a great, we should have her on the podcast.
55:19
Speaker 3: She's Fox's best of the best NASCAR reporter.
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Speaker 2: I don't know if, have you met Jamie before? I
55:24
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't think I have. She's awesome. And she,
55:28
Speaker 2: it's so fun. Her first big break was Supercross too. Oh,
55:31
Speaker 2: no way.
55:32
Speaker 3: And we kind of look alike. Like we look enough
55:36
Speaker 3: alike where people are like, are you guys sisters? Like,
55:39
Speaker 3: Some people would say, is this Jamie's sister doing Supercross now?
55:42
Speaker 3: And her first big gig was Supercross racing, and now
55:45
Speaker 3: she obviously covers NASCAR. So she's stayed in that moto world.
55:48
Speaker 3: But we laugh about how it was just this big
55:52
Speaker 3: break for both of us. And we should get her
55:54
Speaker 3: on the pod. She's really, really great. And I think
55:56
Speaker 3: NASCAR reporting is a fascinating gig.
55:59
Speaker 2: So did she want to stay kind of in that?
56:01
Speaker 1: She did.
56:02
Speaker 2: Or she just happened to? She did. Yeah, I think
56:04
Speaker 2: a little of both. She ended up at ESPN for
56:06
Speaker 2: a while.
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Speaker 3: And.
56:08
Speaker 3: We'll definitely have to get her on to go back
56:11
Speaker 3: into that story. I think she would say back then
56:13
Speaker 3: at ESPN, if you were hired to do one thing,
56:16
Speaker 3: you kind of stayed in that role. So I'm not
56:19
Speaker 3: sure if they had Supercross or if she just got
56:21
Speaker 3: hired after Supercross to do NASCAR at ESPN.
56:25
Speaker 2: And she's fascinating.
56:27
Speaker 3: She was pregnant as a NASCAR reporter wearing those crazy
56:30
Speaker 3: fire suits with this huge belly and just working, working, working.
56:34
Speaker 3: And I very much respect her.
56:36
Speaker 2: Right there, right? And you're in it.
56:39
Speaker 3: So I think back then she kind of just did
56:42
Speaker 3: racing and then Fox hired her. Gosh, she's probably been
56:45
Speaker 3: back at Fox Sports for maybe 10 years now. She's
56:48
Speaker 3: wonderful and we'll get her on. She's a fun working mom,
56:53
Speaker 3: two kids. She'd be a really nice discussion.
56:56
Speaker 2: So there you just then went into what? Well, Supercross.
57:01
Speaker 3: I did the five seasons and it was during that
57:05
Speaker 3: run was the women's world cup too right so i
57:08
Speaker 3: still went back to supercross after after the women's world
57:10
Speaker 3: cup had no i think my last season was 2017
57:14
Speaker 3: of supercross and then football opportunities kind of slowly developed
57:18
Speaker 3: but i did have so much more confidence coming off
57:21
Speaker 3: of supercross and the reps yeah oh yeah absolutely.
57:24
Speaker 1: That's cool i love that well whatever it takes hey
57:27
Speaker 1: i mean i think that's what uh has made us
57:31
Speaker 1: both you know successful in in our fields of just
57:35
Speaker 1: taken our opportunities and maybe those opportunities aren't, you know.
57:39
Speaker 2: What we are exactly wanting.
57:41
Speaker 1: I know that a lot of people want quick, instant success,
57:44
Speaker 1: but it definitely takes time.
57:47
Speaker 3: I love that you've said that about nowadays kids just
57:50
Speaker 3: kind of skipping the steps, but it is a good
57:52
Speaker 3: reminder that you have to, I don't want to say
57:54
Speaker 3: like pay your dues because I loved the opportunity, but
57:57
Speaker 3: you do still have to learn and grow and with
57:59
Speaker 3: any job, like it's not going to be immediately perfect
58:02
Speaker 3: a lot of times and It's a good reminder. And
58:05
Speaker 3: I think both of our stories, all of our stories
58:07
Speaker 3: are kind of that. But we're hoping our listeners can
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58:14
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58:17
Speaker 3: Of course, give us permission to share the story. But
58:20
Speaker 3: I think it'd be fun to get some listener stories.
58:23
Speaker 2: It will. Yeah, I agree.
58:25
Speaker 1: And again, doesn't need to be anything on the professional level.
58:29
Speaker 1: This could be your parenting approach.
58:32
Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
58:32
Speaker 2: Accepting some criticism from your job, your spouse, whatever it is.
58:36
Speaker 2: But yeah, we would love to hear it. We'd love
58:38
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58:39
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58:44
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58:45
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58:59
Speaker 3: Yeah. Thank you for listening and share your stories with us.
59:02
Speaker 3: And Carly, sending all the love your way. I hope
59:06
Speaker 3: next time we chat, we've got a baby.
59:07
Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm like, right now I've got a... the restroom
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Speaker 2: and stand up for a second. All right. I'll talk
59:15
Speaker 2: to you soon.