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It's laced up. Let's go. It's time for Banter
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with the Boys. Welcome back to Banter with the
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Boys. Gridiron updates our week 11 preview and
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picks show. Rob is here again. Yes, I am still
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here. Still kicking. Yeah, even after that tough
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foul. Yeah, I know. Trust me, I know. But we're
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going to move on. That's why it's preview and
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picks. We're talking about this week. Yeah. So
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it's all good. Vikes are going to get a job this
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week. You know what I mean? Smelty's here as
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well. That's me. Kev behind the cameras, obviously
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getting everything done for us as always. So
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let's dive right into it. Roberto, the Bears
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traveling to the Minnesota Vikings. Bears. I
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mean, I picked the Bears to beat the Vikings
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in week one. You were wrong. I was wrong. I was
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wrong that time. But the Bears haven't been doing
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too bad since, Rob. So who do you got in this
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one? Who do you feel? Oh, I mean, I'm going Vikings
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at home on this one. Yeah, I mean. Week one,
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like you said, Bears blew kind of a 17 -6 lead.
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That's kind of where we saw JJ come in and do
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a little second half thing. I think what's Vegas
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got? Bears, Vikings by three on this one. Really?
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So just better than home field advantage. So
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it's just that competitive division game, especially
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at home. Hopefully the fans are just, you know,
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I feel like the fans got kind of. quiet in the
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second half a little bit for sure um but i guess
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you gotta have something to cheer about a little
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bit for sure you know also true also true so
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the bears you know rushing attack Swift's had
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actually a pretty nice little year so far. I
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know he's been banged up lately. He likes it
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okay against the rushing this past weekend. Okay.
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Okay. It was 150. At least it wasn't to one person
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this time. So, yeah, I think it's going to be
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a close 17 to 16 style of game. We're not going
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to get too big of a blowout. I'm thinking like
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28, 24. Okay. It's definitely in the 20s for
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me. I mean, Moneyline's 48 and a half. So that's
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24 to 24 and a half if you did the math, my Ortonville
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math. You know, carry the one, judge his ruling.
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And do the thing. And the Vikings against, you
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know, yeah, they. This is such a tough game.
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I only have one Bears right now. One bears right
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now, huh? Yeah. Everybody else's bikes, including
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yourself, yours truly, of course. All right.
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Yeah, I just think the difference, I like that
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we have our line back a little bit. JJ throwing
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42 times last week. Under 50 % throwing. We need
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to tighten that up a little bit. So it'll be
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interesting if the Bears run a lot of man against
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us, or we definitely need to see a little more
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TJ Hawkinson in the middle. I'd like to see that
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safety past that linebacker, that second level,
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be exposed. Bears do have a couple good linebackers
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with White and blanking the other guy's name.
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But it'll be interesting. turf hopefully we need
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to establish that running game we need aaron
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jones at least run the ball you know 12 to 15
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times And then we can get Jordan Mason, you know,
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eight carries in there. And then you probably
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McCarthy will have, you know, three to five on
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the couple of scrambles. Definitely his legs
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look legit. And he definitely looks like an ability.
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And I feel like he somewhat protects himself.
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He does a little quicker dive. What I see versus
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the slide. I almost like that a little better
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because then it kind of takes away that big hit,
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even though I think it's a little. I'd like to
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get rid of sliding in the NFL in general so we
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don't have to even have these rules. How are
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you feeling on this? What's the difference maker
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for you? You did say that you were picking the
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Vikings. I did, and you really hit it all in
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the head right there, to be honest. Get the run
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game established early, and let's make sure Swift
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doesn't do the same to us. That's the biggest
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key to the game. We know both quarterbacks can
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throw a deep ball. We know they're both trying
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to stretch the field, whether it's Roma, Doonesley,
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or Jettos. It's really about who's going to establish
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the run game first and be able to continue that
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throughout the game. So Fikes for me all day
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in this one. The only one to take the Bears?
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Ben. Oh, Packers fan. You want to know what Ben's
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record is? Sorry, Ben, I got to do this to you.
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Actually, it's not as bad. He's been coming back
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up now. He's 7 -18. Okay, okay. But there was
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a time. Where he was really bad. Really bad.
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I mean, it was really bad. Really bad. He was
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3 -12 at one point. So he's making some progress.
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You know what I mean? Yeah. It's all football
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turnovers right now. You know, the Bears lead
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the NFL in turnover margin. And Caleb Williams
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actually leads the NFL in winning drives this
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season. So we'll see. So, yeah, his escapability
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out of that pocket. You saw it late last week
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with that late touchdown to kind of seal that
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game for them. Turnovers. We've got to limit
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the turnovers. Mr. Price wanted to try to give
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the ball up twice last week to Price. Well, let's
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not do it again. We'll see if he's returning
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kicks this week. Chiefs at Broncos is the next
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game. We got a little bit of a mixed bag here
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a little bit, but I know for me, I got to go
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Chiefs. We're only a few weeks removed from them
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beating the Lions, and every loss the Chiefs
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have had this year have been fairly close, actually.
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So I think this is still a Chiefs team that's
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going to be a tough out no matter what. Yes,
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they're playing in Denver, but, again, this is
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a Chiefs team that has experience in doing stuff
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like this. You have the right guy at quarterback.
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I don't know. Things are shaping up for the Chiefs
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to get this win in Denver for me. Yeah, Vegas
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has got three and a half for the Chiefs. What,
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really? Yeah, if you look at our little graphic
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up there. Oh, no way. Chiefs coming off a bye.
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I figured the Broncos would be favored. Yeah,
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and Andy Reid, 22 -4 coming off a bye. So it's
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going to be an interesting matchup with Denver's
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defense. my third fewest points per game. But
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it's all for them is their inconsistency offense.
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What Denver Broncos, Bo Nix, are you going to
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get? Last few games, they've been really struggling
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against Houston. And last week, I'm trying to
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think where they played last week and didn't
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put up a ton of boys, but squeaked it out again
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late. So Mahomes, I think, Travis Kelsey. Rice,
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you know, really coming on right now. They got
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to get Pacheco. He's probably out of this game.
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So it's going to be, you know, that front four
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with what's the defensive end for Denver? It
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starts with a B. I can't think of it. I don't
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know. Both something. And I'm only doing that
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because that's what you said. Yeah, buddy. I'm
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pulling them up right now. You know what I mean?
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Benito. Yeah, that's what I said. Yeah, exactly.
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You're right on it. I'm actually going with you.
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I'm going to go Chiefs, squeak one out at home.
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Oh, snap. Going Chiefs. I did not expect that
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out of you. I thought for sure you were going
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to go Denver. Wow, I spelled Chiefs wrong. If
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Denver was a little more consistent on offense,
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I'd definitely go Denver because I think the
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defense is a lead on that side of the ball. I
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just don't know if Chiefs get up by 14, whether
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they have enough firepower to go against a decent
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Chiefs defense. Spag always brings something
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special each week, designs some special packages,
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especially coming off a bye week, give them another
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week to design and come up some things. Let's
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stare at that tape that Denver's struggling.
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So, yeah, I'm going Chiefs, baby. Chiefs, baby.
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All right, well. Let's roll right into our third
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game here. It's going to be the Bucs traveling
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to the Buffalo Bills. The Bills coming off an
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ugly one against the Miami Dolphins. Bucs also
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coming off a loss. You want this or you want
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me to go first? Go first. I'm going Bucs. I'm
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going Bucs because that Bills game last week
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has me concerned. I'm more concerned about the
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Bills. coming out of that game than I am the
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Bucs coming out of their game, if that makes
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any sense. Because, again, the Bucs had an opportunity.
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They just stalled out on that last drive for
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whatever reason. I don't understand. But the
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Bills, man, they could not stop the run this
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past weekend. And, you know, Bucky Irving's not
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back, right? No. Godwin and Irving are most likely
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to miss this game. And like you were saying,
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Dalton Kincaid is questionable at this point.
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Yeah, I'll transition. Did you pick who's in?
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I'm going Bucs. You're going Bucs, yeah. No timetable
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for Bucky Irving or Chris Godwin. Literally the
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rebound bowl is kind of what I'm looking at for
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this game. It is. Both of them coming off losses
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as favorites last week. You know, Bills getting
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beat by Miami and then Bucs getting upside by
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the Patriots. Buffalo's still been pretty strong
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at home, so I'm probably going with the Bills
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here if they can establish a running game. james
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cook and we'll see if the weather might be our
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first issue this week is it supposed to be some
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rain and wind is kind of in the forecast so you
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know is that slow down the passing game and without
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bucky irvin that's where my advantage goes to
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the bills on this one so Five and a half, Vegas
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got the Bills right now. So I think they're going
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to rebound and win that rebound bowl. All right.
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Bills with the rebound bowl. Let's see. The only
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other person to take Bucks with me is Dom. Dom.
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The other person to take the Chiefs with us,
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Coach Dan. Coach. Coach Dan. So there it is.
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Yeah, Coach Dan. Here we go. This one's definitely
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a split across the four picks that I've gotten
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from people. Seahawks at Rams. Big division match.
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I mean, this is probably game of the week for
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Banter with the boys, to be honest. Let's be
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real. First place showdown. No doubt. That's
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why you're going to go first. Yeah. Both teams
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riding a four game winning streak. Vegas got
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the Rams at two and a half. And you got Sam and
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his stable offense. Seahawks defense flying over
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the ball. And then they're matching up. I'm actually
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go Seahawks here. And I think that Devante Adams
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loss or injury is going to be the difference.
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I know Safford's been playing a really good ball.
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And it is in L .A., too, so you don't have the
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12th man, which you said earlier this year no
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longer exists, FYI. No, I thought that was you.
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No, that was totally you. I would never say that.
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Okay. That's where we have that rewind. Oh, we're
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going to rewind that. I'm going to go back and
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look for that. I'm going to go with the Seahawks
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on this one, this divisional matchup for both
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of these seven and two teams. Okay. I'm going
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Rams. I'm going Rams. I think Kyron Williams
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is going to get hot early, and he's going to
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be able to. To help kind of offset the Devontae
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Williams loss there. They're going to need a
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big one. And again, like you said, in L .A. But
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Seattle fans in general, no matter what sport,
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travel really well. So there's going to be a
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lot of them there, no matter what. And it's not
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that far compared to if we were to go to L .A.
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right now. It's quite a bit farther. Yeah, don't
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they have a high -speed train in California you
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can zip on down? I don't know. I don't go out
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there, man. I don't even know. Who knows what's
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going on out there. Fun fact, though, for the
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Rams, they're debuting in their midnight mode
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uniforms. What do those look like? Have you seen
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them? I don't know. I just have it in my notes.
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Midnight mode uniforms. Maybe Kevin can pull
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it up real quick here. Just for the fun of it,
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why not? I'm looking at them right now. It looks
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like a dark blue jersey. Oh, wait. Let me see.
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Okay. The chest and the back is darker, and then
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the lighter blue is on the shoulders there with
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the horn. Okay. Okay. I like the contrast. The
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helmet's dark. I like the contrast with the yellow
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onto it. No, it looks good. It looks good. Kevin
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might pop it up here for you YouTube people.
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There it is. No, maybe. No, maybe. Whoops. Anyway.
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No, we're not all there it is right there. Look,
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Kevin, just fast and quick. Those dark unis.
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Okay. Yeah, we'll see. That'll look good at home.
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So at SoFi. Is this a Sunday night game? When
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is this game? Good question. Is this Sunday night?
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No, it's a Sunday afternoon game. Okay. Hopefully
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it's not on ABC or ESPN so I can watch it. It's
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on Fox. Thank you, Fox, for not arguing against
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my cable provider. Let's see. The next game,
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the final game, is the Sunday night game. Lions
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traveling to Philadelphia. One and a half. For
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Philadelphia, I'm assuming. You are correct.
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I'm going Eagles all day. And it's only because,
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I mean, it's because, yes, they're at home, but.
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Just the way that defense plays, man. I'm really
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curious to see your boy, Jared Golf, to see what
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he can. Slice. I had to put that in there. I
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know. I'm real curious to see, though, what he
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can do with that defense compared to what J .J.
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McCarthy was able to do. You know what I mean?
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So that'll be the big thing for me. Yes, we know
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Jameer Gibbs is a cheat code, so it'll be fun
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to watch how the Eagles are able to game plan
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for him and shut him down if they're able to.
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So that's my thing. Eagles defense for Shamir
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Gibbs, really, over Jared Goff. But it's going
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to be the Eagles all day. Again, Jalen Hurts
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will do just enough. Saquon will probably have
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a better day, though, than he did against the
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Vikings, if I had to reckon. Yeah, yardage -wise,
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he's down a little bit this year compared to
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the season past. But you can't even compare.
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We knew there was going to be regression there.
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You're not going to put up numbers like that
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all the time. You know what I mean? So I hope
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people don't think, like, Saquon's taking a step
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back. Nah, man. He's still the same player. It's
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just you're not going to do. what he did two
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years in a row. JT's not going to do what he's
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doing right now next season. You know what I
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mean? That's true. He's on a hot one right now.
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Yeah, you can't have career numbers multiple
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years in a row. Every single year. It's not a
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career number. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I'm actually
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going Eagles in this one at home. You and I are
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the only ones who take the Eagles, by the way.
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A lot of people are looking at this as a possible
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NFC matchup preview right here. Oh, for sure.
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Especially the Lions coming off, dropping 44
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on a very banged up, I almost said Redskins,
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but Commanders team. You still said it. Well,
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it is what it is. But at least I corrected myself
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as I went through it. You caught yourself after
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you said it. But it's really interesting. I saw
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last week was Dan Campbell taking over the play
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calling duties. So that'll be really fun and
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interesting to see if he continues still calling
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the plays with the offensive coordinator still
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sitting up in the booth. Um, Philly kind of defense
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getting after the ball. Like you said, the lions,
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like Gibbs is going to be the difference maker.
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And then whether Jared goth gets. Gets the ball
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out real quick against that front four against
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the Eagles. But I think the Eagles are. And getting
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out quick, like you said. I mean, that's just
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so key. Yeah, yeah. So quick slants, a lot of
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quick plays. They got the skill set players to
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do it. So it's just going to be a good, fun game.
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I'm excited. That's going to be a good Sunday
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night game. Or we're going to get the exact same
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thing as we did this week. It's going to be 10
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-7. Yeah. And then the same scenario as the Bills
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game, weather. We got weather moving up to the
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East Coast, looks like, on Sunday. So we need
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some wet weather in Philly. That's where I think.
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it's going to favor the Eagles a little more
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ball control style defense or offense versus
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the high power of throwing, you know, quick,
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you know, maybe the footing will be a little
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slower and that might slow down Gibbs. Yeah.
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So maybe you'll see a little more Montgomery
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display. So it'll be really interesting though.
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How, what's your feeling on Hutch this year?
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You feel like he's performing to what you believe
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or, or I mean, he missed part of the beginning
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of the season. No. No, he was already. But do
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you feel like he's fully back? No. He's not as
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dominant as he was before he got injured. Yeah.
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So I'm hoping there's not still lingering effects
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from the injury or something that's holding him
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back. Because I would like to see him dominate
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again. Just not against the Vikes, but everybody
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else, it's fine. You know what I mean? Yeah.
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I would say he's not as dominant right now. And
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that good matchup on the receiver side of the
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Eagles going against Arnold and Robertson and
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stuff of the branch and that secondary of the
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Lions. And that secondary of the Lions has really
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freaking turned it up. It's really been interesting
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to watch. None of those guys are necessarily.
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top tier guys you consider but they're getting
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like together collectively that's a good group
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man yeah yeah so yeah and then did lane johnson
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one of the linemen went out uh for the eagles
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for the eagles yeah he did and he came back in
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in the second half last night um Was it last
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night they played? Yeah, last night. He did come
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back, though, and I think he completed the game.
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So we'll see. Maybe he just doesn't practice
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this week. Because that's that Hutch -Johnson
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matchup you're going to be looking. Otherwise,
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it's going to be a backup on there. I guess I
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keep naming things where the Lions could win
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the game here. You really want the Lions to win,
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even though you're picking the Eagles. I think
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it's going to be a really good game. Like you
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said, this could possibly be that NFC Championship
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preview level of quality games. Absolutely. Hopefully
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it'll be better than the Packers -Eagles this
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last week. It'll be a great Sunday night game
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for sure. Before we depart, let's just update
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you. I finally did the freaking standings and
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our predictions here or whatever. You, me, and
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all of our guests, of course. We didn't get Kevin
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here. I don't know why. We should have just for
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shiggles. He's undefeated. Yeah, yeah. So if
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we're going by win percentage. Yeah, that sounds
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way better probably. Technically, D 'Angelo is
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winning. He only has one week of picks in. He
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didn't give me his picks this week. We'll see.
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We need two weeks to be qualified. They've got
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to get to me before Thursday, D 'Angelo. You've
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got to get them to me, buddy. Second place then,
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or technically first, if we're not counting that,
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is your boy, F520. You've been doing real well
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this year. Nah, I'm starting to kind of calm
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down. I started hot, and you started bad. And
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now we're kind of both... Go in the opposite
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direction. We're starting to meet a little bit.
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We're starting to. I'm 26 and 24. You're 20 and
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30. All right. So, you know what I mean? We're
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getting there. All right. We're getting there.
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But then I think we picked all the same games
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as me. For the most part. So, yeah, I got a 521
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percentage. And then next would be Jake at 485.
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Jake is 17 and 18. Yep. Next would be Dom at
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467. He's 21 and 24. So he's right there with,
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I mean, this is a close race right now. Drastic
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change from last year. And then you at 400, 2030.
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And then Ben, I'm sorry, Ben's last. Sorry, Ben.
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Coach Dan at 300. And then Ben at 280 right now.
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Yeah, above 300. That's a Hall of Fame, right?
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Oh, wrong sport. Jeez. Yeah, no, definitely different
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so far to start the season. I didn't come out
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as hot last year. Well, last year I feel like
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there was multiple people above 500. For sure.
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But we also do pick the hardest games, too. A
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lot of these spreads are worth two or three points.
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I really, really wanted to pick the Dolphins
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and... Who was it? It's a Madrid game. Dolphins
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and Commanders, I think it is. I really wanted
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to pick the Dolphins -Commanders game because
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I think that would... That'd be a tough game
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to pick right now too. Okay. But there's way
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too many good matchups this week to substitute
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any of the games we just talked about with the
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freaking Dolphins and Commanders. You know what
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I mean? Yeah. Otherwise, that was a game I was
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considering. But anyway, now I'm rambling. Well,
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in general, we always try to pick lines that
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are within two or three points. Oh, you look
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at lines when you get to pick? Yeah. I mean,
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I kind of wanted a matchup. And then even if
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it's two mid -tiered teams, they're still generally
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pretty close on the line. That's what I'm saying.
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If there wasn't another good matchup, the Dolphins.
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and Commanders would have been in here. I think
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that's a good matchup. They're the ones representing
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the NFL right now in Madrid, but whatever. Sorry,
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Commanders and Dolphins fans. Anyway, we've got
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to wrap this thing up. Dolphins coming out hot.
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We've got to wrap this thing up. It's Vets Day.
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Oh my god, I almost forgot about it for the third
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episode in a row. I wasn't going to let you.
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Happy Veterans Day, bro. Thank you. Appreciate
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your service. And everybody else out here listening
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to us right now. All the ladies and gents. Yes,
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yes. With that, Rob, thanks for being here, bro.
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You're welcome. Thanks for having me. Thanks,
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coach. Rob will not be here next week. I won't.
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I'm going on a trip. That'll be weird. Getting
21:36
on an airplane. Whoa. Going to Utah. Zion National
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Park. Anyone been there? Going to Utah. Yeah,
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so anyone in the comments, throw some ideas,
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some different. I didn't hear what you said.
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No, it's good. Anyway. Throw me some ideas. There's
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many hiking trails. You know, Angel's Landing
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is one of the top ones. Okay. My wife is deadly
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scared that I'm going on that one. That's the
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one you're going on then. Oh, yeah. That's number
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one. Right on. Yeah. Right on. Okay. You only
22:03
live once, baby. Yeah. Right. Right on. Right
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on. Of course, I am Smelty. Also host Kev behind
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the cameras, of course, getting everything done
22:11
for us, all the editing, all that. He stays up
22:13
uber late after we leave, you know, getting everything
22:16
done for us. Just grinding. I love it. Just grinding.
22:17
Always grinding. So with that. Don't forget to
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like, comment, subscribe wherever you listen
22:22
to The Banter, whether that's YouTube, Spotify,
22:24
Apple Podcasts, or iHeartRadio. And, yeah, I
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suppose I'll see you next week. Rob won't. Special
22:33
guest next week filling in for Rob. And if you
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want to be on the show next week, I don't know,
22:37
hit me up. Figure this thing out. So, anyway,
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yeah, with that, Skol. Get another win. Peace.
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