Latest / The Breakfast Club / EXCLUSIVE: Karmelo Anthony’s Advocate Speaks Out After Guilty Verdict & 35 Sentencing
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- 0:02Speaker 1: I'm a homegrow that knows a little bit about everything
- 0:04Speaker 1: and everybody.
- 0:06Speaker 2: You don't know if you don't lie about that, right,
- 0:07Speaker 2: Lauren came in.
- 0:09Speaker 3: Hey, y'all, what's up.
- 0:10Speaker 1: It's Lauren Rosa and this is another episode of the
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- 0:22Speaker 3: My lowriders.
- 0:23Speaker 1: If you guys cannot tell by the tone of my
- 0:25Speaker 1: voice and the intro, today's conversation is going to be
- 0:28Speaker 1: one that is very serious. We cover a lot of
- 0:31Speaker 1: things here at the Latest with Laurna Rosa, but when
- 0:33Speaker 1: it's time to take the time, we do so. And
- 0:35Speaker 1: today there was a verdict that came down in the
- 0:38Speaker 1: Carmelo Anthony case and I, like the rest of the world,
- 0:42Speaker 1: uh had some had some thoughts and feelings on it,
- 0:45Speaker 1: but wanted to put my own thoughts and feelings aside
- 0:47Speaker 1: and bring someone who has been very close to this case,
- 0:49Speaker 1: who's been advocating for the Anthony family right here to
- 0:53Speaker 1: you guys on the podcast to have some conversations about
- 0:55Speaker 1: what happened and the verdict that we all heard today.
- 0:58Speaker 3: Of guilty. Thank you for dominic.
- 1:01Speaker 2: How you doing I'm doing pretty good about yourself.
- 1:03Speaker 3: I mean I'm doing good.
- 1:04Speaker 1: I think like everybody else, I'm kind of watching from
- 1:07Speaker 1: the outside looking in and just have a lot of
- 1:10Speaker 1: questions and I don't know, I kind of feel like
- 1:14Speaker 1: like I have a younger brother, So watching everything that
- 1:18Speaker 1: played out in this case and what didn't play out, Uh,
- 1:22Speaker 1: it's heartbreaking, you know what I mean? And I know
- 1:25Speaker 1: that you were working alongside Carmelo Anthony's family to give
- 1:30Speaker 1: everything that was happening, you know, some platforms so that
- 1:34Speaker 1: we knew what was going on.
- 1:36Speaker 3: How are you feeling following a verdict?
- 1:40Speaker 4: Well, it's really hard right now to be able to
- 1:45Speaker 4: process it when you know, I've had the opportunity to
- 1:49Speaker 4: get to know Carmel or Anthony. I've had the opportunity
- 1:52Speaker 4: to get to know Kayla, and Andrew and his father
- 1:55Speaker 4: and other children. You're talking about a beautiful black family.
- 2:00Speaker 4: You're talking about a very educated young brother, Carmelo Anthony,
- 2:05Speaker 4: a very kind and very smart and had a very
- 2:11Speaker 4: promising future that was stolen today.
- 2:16Speaker 1: Do you feel like and it's hard to do in
- 2:20Speaker 1: a trial right where you know you have the prosecutors
- 2:23Speaker 1: who are there's there's stuck on what they're trying to
- 2:26Speaker 1: get to. But do you feel like it was there
- 2:28Speaker 1: was a good enough job done of humanizing Crimela Anthony
- 2:31Speaker 1: outside of what we as a community would would just
- 2:35Speaker 1: try and do ourselves on social media.
- 2:37Speaker 3: Do you think it was done well in court?
- 2:39Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think so.
- 2:41Speaker 4: I think that there were many things that I disagreed
- 2:46Speaker 4: with the approach, but at the end of the day,
- 2:49Speaker 4: I'm not a lawyer. Of course, he had attorneys. There
- 2:54Speaker 4: were a multiple different things that I felt like it
- 2:57Speaker 4: could have went this way, but it didn't. And I
- 3:02Speaker 4: just the young man that I got to know, I
- 3:06Speaker 4: didn't think. I didn't think it was displayed to the
- 3:09Speaker 4: fullest in courtroom.
- 3:12Speaker 1: How is Carmelo's mom doing? I know she was the
- 3:15Speaker 1: only one at this time. She is the only person
- 3:17Speaker 1: that is testified in the sentencing part of the child
- 3:19Speaker 1: because that's where we are now. How's his mom doings
- 3:22Speaker 1: as of now?
- 3:25Speaker 2: Kayla is distraught.
- 3:27Speaker 4: I can't speak for her, but just to know Kayla,
- 3:31Speaker 4: Kayla is a mother. She does everything for those children.
- 3:36Speaker 2: She is a woman of.
- 3:40Speaker 4: She doesn't say a lot or whatever but she doesn't
- 3:43Speaker 4: play about her children, and you know, my heart goes
- 3:48Speaker 4: out to her, because this is a family that traveled
- 3:53Speaker 4: and moved from Louisiana to Texas and for just a
- 3:58Speaker 4: better opportunity, better exposed and they landed in Collin County.
- 4:04Speaker 4: And Collin County is a county north of Dallas County
- 4:07Speaker 4: where the city of Dallas results. And of course a
- 4:12Speaker 4: lot of times when people move here, they end up,
- 4:15Speaker 4: you know, moving to some of these suburb areas, not
- 4:19Speaker 4: knowing some of the history that goes behind some of
- 4:22Speaker 4: these areas, very problematic, and so I know that the
- 4:30Speaker 4: family is really hurt.
- 4:31Speaker 2: Right now.
- 4:34Speaker 1: I've read a report about the plea that she made
- 4:37Speaker 1: to the court after everything, and you know, her attempt
- 4:41Speaker 1: to just humanize her child herself, and it was heartbreaking
- 4:45Speaker 1: to read. So I can only imagine what happens now though,
- 4:49Speaker 1: Like is is after? Are you guys already talking about
- 4:55Speaker 1: like a pill? How do we activate around the case
- 4:59Speaker 1: in the verted?
- 4:59Speaker 3: Like what now? What do we do now?
- 5:02Speaker 4: Well, of course, the next generation Action Network is going
- 5:05Speaker 4: to have to raise resources and we're going to have
- 5:08Speaker 4: to have people from all different cousors and creeds and
- 5:11Speaker 4: black America to really stand up, because this case is
- 5:15Speaker 4: solely about are these laws going to be applied to
- 5:19Speaker 4: everyone or are they going to be applied to some right,
- 5:23Speaker 4: I know, you see cases from all across this country,
- 5:27Speaker 4: even from the recent case in Carolina where we're told, hey,
- 5:33Speaker 4: take your emotions out of the situation. It's law, this
- 5:36Speaker 4: is law, right, and so in this situation, the law
- 5:40Speaker 4: was very clear and the law was ignored. And of
- 5:45Speaker 4: course that was also the reason why the judge limited
- 5:52Speaker 4: the court proceedings, so that the people won't be able
- 5:55Speaker 4: to know what really went on, rather than the secondhand
- 6:00Speaker 4: count of information that pretty much all America is pretty
- 6:05Speaker 4: much going off of. Because only fifty people were allowed
- 6:10Speaker 4: at a time to be in a court.
- 6:12Speaker 1: Can you break down, So first let's start with the limiting.
- 6:16Speaker 3: Can you explain what was limited?
- 6:20Speaker 4: Well, first of all, you limit the amount of people
- 6:23Speaker 4: that were able to see exactly what's going on the activities.
- 6:29Speaker 2: You also even in the ruling of the jury.
- 6:34Speaker 4: Of course, many people are making it seem like the
- 6:37Speaker 4: judge went through a full process. No, the judge actually
- 6:41Speaker 4: made a decision fairly quickly on those three black jurors
- 6:44Speaker 4: that the prosecution striped right. A lot of people got
- 6:48Speaker 4: answers on that. A lot of people got answers on
- 6:52Speaker 4: how did these people testify in court?
- 6:55Speaker 2: What was their body language?
- 6:58Speaker 4: We know, based on a lot of accounts of people
- 7:01Speaker 4: who were in the courtroom, a lot of them witnesses
- 7:06Speaker 4: were cohearsed, They were instructed what to say. You can
- 7:10Speaker 4: tell they tried to keep the brother far away from
- 7:15Speaker 4: the situation. When we know that Hunter Metcalf had already
- 7:19Speaker 4: went on national TV saying he was right there. But
- 7:23Speaker 4: some kind of way during the trial, by multiple eyewitnesses
- 7:27Speaker 4: account we found that Hunter was there.
- 7:30Speaker 2: But you know, this is what we have to deal with.
- 7:35Speaker 4: And now, just while I've been on the interview with you,
- 7:41Speaker 4: we find out that Carmelo has been sentenced to thirty
- 7:44Speaker 4: five years.
- 7:47Speaker 3: Oh my god, Oh was I expecting that?
- 7:57Speaker 1: So okay, let's talk about the jury really quick, because
- 7:59Speaker 1: you brought that up right, and I know the conversation
- 8:02Speaker 1: with the black jurors that there were three of them
- 8:04Speaker 1: that were struck. Correct, Yes, the judge said that they
- 8:08Speaker 1: were struck for non racial reasons, and they brought out
- 8:12Speaker 1: the fact that they were educators. Wouldn't you want people
- 8:15Speaker 1: that were educators and understood children in an educational or
- 8:18Speaker 1: a school setting, and how those things happened on a
- 8:21Speaker 1: jury Like where was there a law basis that allowed
- 8:24Speaker 1: them to like, how was that able to be an
- 8:27Speaker 1: argument to take those jurors off of the jury or
- 8:30Speaker 1: off of the selection process?
- 8:32Speaker 2: You know, it flabbergasting.
- 8:34Speaker 4: Nobody that was there understood exactly how they were able
- 8:38Speaker 4: to strike them. They just said they were educators, not
- 8:42Speaker 4: explain why they think they're conflicted because they're educators, just
- 8:46Speaker 4: because they're just they're educators, right, And of course we
- 8:51Speaker 4: know that Colin County has a long history of yet
- 8:55Speaker 4: discriminatorial practices. We know that Colin County is a county
- 9:00Speaker 4: black people have had a real uphill battle uh to
- 9:05Speaker 4: be able to get justice.
- 9:07Speaker 2: And we know that Collin County has.
- 9:09Speaker 4: A real large population of black people that it had
- 9:15Speaker 4: sent to prison in the history of it. And we
- 9:18Speaker 4: know that this county is very problematic. And we heard
- 9:23Speaker 4: a lot of different calls for people saying why didn't
- 9:26Speaker 4: we push for change of venue? But if they understood
- 9:31Speaker 4: how state law work, there were only certain red counties
- 9:36Speaker 4: around that that even if they would have pushed it
- 9:40Speaker 4: to another venue, it would have been even worse.
- 9:44Speaker 1: And and and there was an educator that was kept
- 9:47Speaker 1: on the jury still, so even though they tried to
- 9:49Speaker 1: have that argument, it was it still was that one
- 9:52Speaker 1: educator that was was that a person of color a
- 9:53Speaker 1: white person.
- 9:57Speaker 3: Man?
- 9:58Speaker 4: Okay, so if it's educators, is blanket educators across the board?
- 10:03Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 10:03Speaker 1: I thought that there was maybe like a legal standing,
- 10:05Speaker 1: but if you're keeping one educator and getting rid of
- 10:07Speaker 1: the other ones, like I would have to dive more
- 10:09Speaker 1: into like why, like what made one different than the
- 10:13Speaker 1: other three? And then my last question, I know we
- 10:16Speaker 1: have to wrap up. Are we going to see a change?
- 10:18Speaker 1: I don't even know if this would be possible at
- 10:20Speaker 1: this point, But if you guys go into the appeal status,
- 10:23Speaker 1: which are you you guys are planning to appeal?
- 10:25Speaker 3: Is that something that family is considering.
- 10:27Speaker 2: Yes?
- 10:28Speaker 3: Will there be a change of attorney.
- 10:31Speaker 4: Yes, there there will be new appella attorneys assigned, and
- 10:36Speaker 4: there will be a new legal strategy and we will
- 10:39Speaker 4: need to be able to raise the resources to be
- 10:42Speaker 4: able to support that.
- 10:44Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, got you.
- 10:46Speaker 1: And then the focus of the appeal is it going
- 10:48Speaker 1: to be to just kind of combat all the jury information.
- 10:52Speaker 1: The thing with the judge and the DA and the father,
- 10:55Speaker 1: there's some correlation and relationship there that I was reading about.
- 10:57Speaker 3: Is that true?
- 10:59Speaker 2: We don't know if you know that was true.
- 11:04Speaker 4: We know that the picture was not the sitting judge,
- 11:08Speaker 4: and we we gave some clarification.
- 11:11Speaker 2: We don't know what judge that was in the picture.
- 11:14Speaker 4: It wasn't given to us, but it wasn't John John Roach,
- 11:18Speaker 4: who was the presiding.
- 11:19Speaker 2: Judge over this situation.
- 11:22Speaker 4: But of course we're going to need to need the
- 11:25Speaker 4: community support across America support to go go into this
- 11:31Speaker 4: next process. And of course we know the road to
- 11:35Speaker 4: justice is not a quick one, but we we stand
- 11:39Speaker 4: committed towards making sure.
- 11:41Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for joining me. I know
- 11:44Speaker 1: you have a lot uh to try and figure out
- 11:47Speaker 1: at this point.
- 11:49Speaker 3: Thank you.
- 11:50Speaker 2: I appreciate thank you for having me. Thank you.
- 11:52Speaker 3: I'll talk to you guys soon. Please stand contact
- 11:55Speaker 2: All righty, I will already