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Jonathan Taylor’s BIG Extension, Hall of Fame Weekend, Fugazi Friday & NFL Training Camp Mailbag · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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  Speaker 1: The volume. What is going on everybody? How are we doing?
• 0:18
  Speaker 1: John Middlecoff three and out podcast? And uh, we got
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: a lot going on the running back market. Jonathan Taylor,
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: I actually just recorded the podcast and then I have
• 0:30
  Speaker 1: to go back and change the intro that's different from
• 0:32
  Speaker 1: the video. And after recording the podcast, which is like
• 0:34
  Speaker 1: an hour plus long, Jamir Gibbs signed, So the opening
• 0:40
  Speaker 1: of the podcast is around Jonathan Taylor. But Jamiir Gibbs
• 0:44
  Speaker 1: falls under my point stance, and I still stand by
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  Speaker 1: everything I've been saying about the discounts the teams are getting.
• 0:53
  Speaker 1: Adam vin Terry, I find him fascinating going into the
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  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame with the other star power. It's Fugas Friday.
• 1:01
  Speaker 1: I got a big Fugaza today that I'm pretty fired
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  Speaker 1: up about. And we'll do some mail bag questions. Some
• 1:06
  Speaker 1: people are mad at me. Some people are mad at me.
• 1:08
  Speaker 1: They do not like that I'm being mean to quarterbacks.
• 1:11
  Speaker 1: It's guys, I'm not I'm not creating these narratives. I'm
• 1:14
  Speaker 1: just reacting to them. And yeah, hopefully everyone is getting
• 1:19
  Speaker 1: ready for the weekend. Got some good plans, enjoy summer.
• 1:21
  Speaker 1: We don't have that much longer a summer. Well, if
• 1:23
  Speaker 1: you live in Arizona, it's hot for a couple more months.
• 1:26
  Speaker 1: But some of you guys, you know that temperature drops
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  Speaker 1: early fall right around the corner. So let's enjoy it
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  Speaker 1: out three and Out. Appreciate everyone that consumes the content.
• 2:00
  Speaker 1: You guys are the lifeblood. But let's just dive into
• 2:02
  Speaker 1: the show. And I don't want to beat a dead
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  Speaker 1: horse here, but Jonathan Taylor, who has been one of
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  Speaker 1: the better running backs in the league for several years now,
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  Speaker 1: a versatile dual threat, can catch the ball obviously as
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  Speaker 1: an exceptional between the tackles every down running back just
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  Speaker 1: got a contract extension. And like Bjhon Robinson, you could
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  Speaker 1: take both their guaranteed dollars, add them up and they
• 2:29
  Speaker 1: would not equal Jay Flowers. There's no one in the league.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think there's any fan that would say, hey,
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  Speaker 1: if you could rank these three players, would have Zay
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  Speaker 1: Flowers above Bejhon Robinson or Jonathan Taylor. And I feel
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  Speaker 1: like I'm picking on Za Flowers. I have no issue
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  Speaker 1: congratulations for him changing the course of his life with
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  Speaker 1: a massive contract. I'm simply just talking about the market.
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  Speaker 1: The market parameters that are dictating these contracts for running
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  Speaker 1: backs relative to these wide receivers seemed extremely out of
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  Speaker 1: whack toomy. Jonathan Taylor almost had two thousand all purpose
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  Speaker 1: yards last year. He had twenty touchdowns. So you were
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  Speaker 1: getting these guys and you can make the argument, well,
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  Speaker 1: they just running backs. You can't just build around him
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  Speaker 1: and you won't be able to win. We don't have
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  Speaker 1: to pay him any money. So it's like it's on
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  Speaker 1: you to build the rest of the team. When you
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  Speaker 1: get one of the elite guys a McCaffrey in his prime,
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  Speaker 1: a Saquon Barkley, a Bjhon Robinson and Jamier Gibbs a
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  Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor, it's on you as a general manager and
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  Speaker 1: you as a head coach to figure out a way
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  Speaker 1: to build the rest of the roster. Because even Once
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  Speaker 1: you pay that guy, he counts like a random garden
• 3:44
  Speaker 1: free agency would and like you get a beachfront property
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  Speaker 1: for rural prices, like you get an elite player, but
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  Speaker 1: you don't have to pay him a lot of money.
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  Speaker 1: It's like having if you could ever you know, an
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  Speaker 1: ed Reed type player comes into the at that position,
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  Speaker 1: they don't cost much money. Tight Ends forever Travis Kelce,
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  Speaker 1: in the peak of his powers, was making way less
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  Speaker 1: than all these wide receivers. And you can be like, well,
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  Speaker 1: he kind of took a discount. Part of it was
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  Speaker 1: his position and the contract that came along with the comps.
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  Speaker 1: It's why tight ends before I have argued like I'm
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  Speaker 1: a wide receiver. They've said that because they want to
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  Speaker 1: get paid like a wide receiver. Anytime you try to
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  Speaker 1: tell an outside linebacker you're a linebacker, they're like, no,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a pass rusher. Pay me like a defensive end.
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  Speaker 1: Totally understand, you know, I just think that the comps
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  Speaker 1: at this position, if you can find one of these
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  Speaker 1: guys a lot that It was the knock on Jeremiah Love.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, hey man, you get Jeremiah Love at three,
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  Speaker 1: you're already paying him a lot of money relative to
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  Speaker 1: his position. Well, I don't care. Is he the best
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  Speaker 1: player when I'm drafting at that spot and I have
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  Speaker 1: a need at that position. If he becomes an all
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  Speaker 1: around elite player over the course of the next eight
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  Speaker 1: to nine years, even as he gets raises relative to
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  Speaker 1: another guy that I could pick, and let's face it,
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  Speaker 1: fifty percent of the picks miss anyway, I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: get extremely cheap asset. Like this is all an economic exercise.
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  Speaker 1: The players are the assets. Their position dictates the price
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  Speaker 1: in which you have to pay them once you choose
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  Speaker 1: to extend them right or desire to extend them. And
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  Speaker 1: it's all based on comps on previous contracts. It's very
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  Speaker 1: rare that you get these outlier contracts for starting quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 1: It's why we talk so much about Sam Donald and
• 5:38
  Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, how little they make as top fifteen quarterbacks
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  Speaker 1: relative to other guys. We'll dive into Jalen Hurtzel a
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  Speaker 1: little bit later, but you know he makes fifty million
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  Speaker 1: dollars and if you tell me last year Sam Donald's
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  Speaker 1: playing way better than him, well, he makes half as much.
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  Speaker 1: So you have more wiggle room to buy other guys
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  Speaker 1: and I just think that the way this sport is
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  Speaker 1: being played right now, where these running backs are all
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  Speaker 1: coming in the league with the ability to catch the ball,
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of these offensive coordinators feature these players.
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  Speaker 1: Their value is more than just the yards and the
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  Speaker 1: stats they put up, and guys like Jonathan Taylor put
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  Speaker 1: up a lot of stats. Their value is the ability
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  Speaker 1: to build around them because they don't cost very much money,
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  Speaker 1: even in the prime of their career when they're on
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  Speaker 1: second and third contracts. So when you told Chris Baller,
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  Speaker 1: like this guy really wants an extension, it's why Vidavea,
• 6:38
  Speaker 1: who prompts to Jason Light's like, yeah, we're not trading them,
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  Speaker 1: you know. It's like we don't plan on doing that.
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  Speaker 1: They're at a contract impass because Vidavea is like, my
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  Speaker 1: number starts probably at thirty four million dollars a year.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, Vita, we love you, you know, like you're an
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  Speaker 1: excellent player and have been a core piece of this franchise.
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  Speaker 1: But as we get up in terms of the numbers
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  Speaker 1: on third contracts, these deals become more complicated. It was,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he makes seventeen million dollars a year and
• 7:09
  Speaker 1: he's laughing at it. Jonathan Taylor makes like four or
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  Speaker 1: five million dollars more and he just got a, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a massive extension relative to his position. So I think
• 7:18
  Speaker 1: this position became so polarizing a couple of years ago.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, you can't get these guys five six year contracts,
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  Speaker 1: and they no longer get them. They just get multiple
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  Speaker 1: years at numbers that are just way smaller, and they
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  Speaker 1: have become you could argue one of the biggest discounts
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  Speaker 1: in the league, specifically Jonathan Taylor and b John Robinson.
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  Speaker 1: I've been saying this for a while, and I learned
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  Speaker 1: it through experience because you would get so excited even
• 7:47
  Speaker 1: as I started doing radio and podcasts, and I would
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  Speaker 1: go to practices like I can't wait to see this
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  Speaker 1: third rounder. I really loved him in college. Watched him
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  Speaker 1: play a bunch at Florida. Right this fifth round pick
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  Speaker 1: was one of my favorite players. Last year you're in
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  Speaker 1: college football Washington play at Washington, saw him play multiple
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  Speaker 1: games pack twelve after dark. This guy's an ass kicker.
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  Speaker 1: And then you would get to practice and the guy
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  Speaker 1: you were excited to see that was just draft in
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  Speaker 1: the second, the third and fourth round. You have an
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  Speaker 1: undrafted free agent split reps with them, and then his
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  Speaker 1: camp would go on and as preseason games would take place,
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  Speaker 1: the undrafted free agent would separate from them. And I
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  Speaker 1: think the thing that's powerful about football is if you
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  Speaker 1: are drafted in the first round, you're gonna get more opportunities.
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  Speaker 1: No one would argue that, but past like pick forty,
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  Speaker 1: it's pretty wide open, and usually spots are based on merit.
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  Speaker 1: It's why over the course of this next month, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of veteran players will get cut for former practice
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  Speaker 1: squad guys, six seventh round picks, undrafted free agents who
• 9:00
  Speaker 1: have either taken their spot or a franchise is gone.
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  Speaker 1: You know, this guy might not be as good as
• 9:08
  Speaker 1: our starting guard right now, but he's a second year
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  Speaker 1: undrafted free agent. He got to start two games last
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  Speaker 1: year because there were some injuries. We think within a
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  Speaker 1: year he will be, if not just as good, he
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  Speaker 1: might be better. Oh yeah, and he makes nine hundred
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  Speaker 1: thousand dollars and the starter makes ten million dollars. And
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  Speaker 1: if he's on the roster week one, as a veteran player,
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  Speaker 1: your contract is guaranteed for the rest of the year.
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  Speaker 1: So you start thinking in your head as a front
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  Speaker 1: office as a GM, it's like, there's not that much
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  Speaker 1: of a difference now, but there is financially, and if
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  Speaker 1: we go with the young guy, it gives ourselves more
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  Speaker 1: wiggle room during the season to make trades and other
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: maneuvers in the future. And I just saw a story
• 9:54
  Speaker 1: today and I texted a buddy in Kansas City. I said,
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  Speaker 1: this Khalil Benson, guy who's ar it right tackle for
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: the Kansasita Chiefs. You know what round he was drafted in?
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  Speaker 1: He wasn't drafted. He was an undrafted free agent. You
• 10:09
  Speaker 1: know where he played last year Indiana where he was
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  Speaker 1: a starter at a right tackle on a team that
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  Speaker 1: didn't lose. And the year before he had played at Colorado,
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: the year they had an excellent offense with Shador Sanders.
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  Speaker 1: Travis Hunter, the left tackle that year is now at LSU,
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  Speaker 1: makes huge nil money, Like they had two legitimate tackles.
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  Speaker 1: I think when he was at Colorado he also played guard.
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  Speaker 1: So this guy's proven to be able to play multiple positions.
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  Speaker 1: But he is currently the starting right tackle for the
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  Speaker 1: Kansasite Chiefs, and coming into the year, despite coming from Indiana,
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: he actually started in Indiana. Signetti came transferred to Dion
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  Speaker 1: and then after a year, transferred back to Indiana. I
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: don't think many people would have been talking about this guy, because,
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: let's face it, what I do for a living, what
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: fans do in terms of following their team, most people
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: aren't discussing undrafted free agents. Help most people aren't discussing
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: third round picks, you know, third day picks. Excuse me.
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  Speaker 1: We talk a lot about the first rounder and maybe
• 11:12
  Speaker 1: one of the two second or third rounders. They get
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  Speaker 1: all the oxygen, and then training camp starts and by
• 11:18
  Speaker 1: the end of it you have multiple undrafted free agents.
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  Speaker 1: You're like, these two guys are gonna make the team.
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  Speaker 1: One of them might start and the other guy's gonna
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: rotate at whatever position they play. And I think that's
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: the powerful part about football is once camp starts, and specifically,
• 11:34
  Speaker 1: and you saw this a little in Hard Knocks. You
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: see this in all the clips that go viral with
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: different coaches discussing camp. We can get excited, players stand out,
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: but until the pads come on and you actually start hitting,
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: you never know. Now, just because you're excelling, maybe the
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: first week of pads does not determine anything by any means,
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: because you're gonna have to show it a little bit
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: in some of these preseason games, and then you're spot's
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: not even set if the season starts near the starter
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  Speaker 1: as a as a young undrafted free agent or late
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: round pick, because then you have to earn it in
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  Speaker 1: the actual games. You have to prove that you can
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: do it. But you do get the opportunity. And one
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: issue with baseball, who by all signs look like it's
• 12:18
  Speaker 1: potentially gonna go on strike next year or lockout or
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: whatever the fucking terminology is, is he regardless what rounds
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: you're picked in, takes a while through the minor leagues forever.
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: Right in basketball, if you're a second round pick or
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  Speaker 1: an undrafted free agent, which is very rare for that
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: guy to make the team, you're just thrown at the
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: end of the bench. Even if your team's terrible. It's
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: very difficult to get minutes right. It takes some time.
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: In football, you can come out of nowhere and week
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: one be starting on a team with on an offense
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  Speaker 1: with one of the greatest quarterbacks we've ever seen, one
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: of the best tight ends we've ever seen. The Super
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: Bowl MVP, you know, and Andy Reid callin plays. It
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: happens that fast, and to me, and I'm sure there's
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: an example like this with every team all over the place.
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: That's what's cool about training camp. It's why I don't
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: it's why draft grades are so stupid. It's like, I
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: love these I love this team's third and fourth round pick,
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: and then we look back in two years, those guys
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: barely ever cracked the lineup. One of them's cut after
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: the first training camp, the other guys traded three years later,
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, the six and seventh round
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: picks are starters and an undrafted free agent is the
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  Speaker 1: best player from the class. And that's how fast it happens.
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  Speaker 1: The other thing fascinating is this week is a Hall
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: of Fame induction for pretty good class. Right. Larry Fitzgerald
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: is truly one of the great wide receiver prospects to
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: ever come into the NFL. He then becomes an absolute
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: superstar on a team that is just all over the map.
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: Most of his career plays with a bunch of shitty quarterbacks.
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: In the couple moments he has with real quarterbacks, he
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, shining feels like an understatement. He's truly he
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: had one of the great playoff runs we've ever seen.
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  Speaker 1: And Drew Brees, who was setting records at Purdue. Second
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  Speaker 1: round pick, goes on to have a Hall of Fame
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  Speaker 1: career once he links up with Sean Payton, Luke Keigley,
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  Speaker 1: who top ten pick at middle linebacker, which is very rare.
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: You have to be very good to get drafted high
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: at that position. If it wasn't for concussions, I think
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: he'd go down as one of the greatest players we've
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: ever seen. And even despite the concussion, still had an
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: incredible career and was a badass immediately. And then there's
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: Adam Vinterry, And I think the NFL and back to
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: the undrafted thing has so many parallels to real life.
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: Most of us aren't born on third base. Most of
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: our parents aren't some famous politician or own some big
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: ass company. Like, if we want to do something, we
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: just kind of got to figure it out on our own.
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: We have to just kind of will ourselves there, and
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: it's difficult, and the path is typically pretty bumpy. You're
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: gonna find yourself in some situations that aren't ideal, but
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: then you look back and you go that helped make
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: me who I am that helped me figure out my
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: life by being forced to either get it done or
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: this isn't gonna work out. I don't care what you
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: do for a living. Most people have to figure it
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: out on their own. And most people aren't really handed shit.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: They create their own opportunities. And I read this article
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: today after we got off the show, and I was
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: eating my free little turkey wrap, which was pretty bombed.
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: By the way. Fox has an incredible little cafeteria called Mo's,
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: you know from like the Simpsons. It's They make some
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: good sandwiches. I've been having tuna melts, I've been having
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: turkey melts. I've been having turkey wraps. I've been eating well.
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: I've been eating well. And I was reading this article
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: on The Athletic about Adam vin TERI, and I don't
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  Speaker 1: think I quite realized that he wasn't even good in college.
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  Speaker 1: He made one more field goal at South Dakota State
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  Speaker 1: than he missed during his college career. It's not like
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: he was drafted. It's not even like he got an
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: NFL opportunity out of college. He actually had to go
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: to NFL Europe, which clearly doesn't exist anymore. But at
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: one point in time was an area. Honestly, the way
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: it was always discussed to me when I worked in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL, it felt like it was even more powerful
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: than the UFL, like it produced more NFL players and
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: was definitely scouted extremely closely. And he gets out of
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: South Dakota State. By the end of his career, they
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: used a defensive lineman at kicker because Vinitari was so
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: bad at extra points and the defensive lineman did a
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: better job down the stretch then vin Terry, so the
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  Speaker 1: coach was actually justified. Well, he works with this guy
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: between graduating and going or getting an opportunity to go
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: to NFL Europe and becomes a really good kicker. And
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: then Bill Parcells brings him to camp. And when he
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: went to camp, he was only there to try to
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  Speaker 1: push this veteran kicker who he ends up beating out.
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  Speaker 1: But then the season starts, it's a disaster. He's missing
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: kicks and it's like Week four and he had already
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: missed a field goal in that game. They're playing the Jags,
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: I think, led by Tom Kaughlin at the time, and
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  Speaker 1: he has an opportunity to kick a game winning kick
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  Speaker 1: in overtime and his job was already on the line,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: and as he's running out, Bill Parcells looks at him
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  Speaker 1: and says, if you miss, do not bother. Coming back
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: to the locker room, Vinitarry was like, he's already been
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: on my ass for six months. I've been all over
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: the map during camp. I don't even know how I
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: made the team. And when he said it was pretty clear.
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  Speaker 1: If I miss this thing, my NFL career is over.
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  Speaker 1: This is nineteen ninety six hits the kick and kind
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  Speaker 1: of the rest is history. Obviously never gives us the spot.
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  Speaker 1: Belichick ends up coming kicks, a bunch of game winners,
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: goes to the Colts kicks a bunch of game winners.
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  Speaker 1: But so many guys in the NFL, and look at this,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: look at this Hall of Fame class. Larry Fitzgerald's like
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: a blue chipper. Luke Keikley's a blue chipper. Drew Brees,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: while it was a little weird early on in San Diego,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: and then he banged up his shoulder and got replaced
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: by Philip Rivers, got with the right coach and put
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: up historic numbers. A legendary quarterback that many would arguees
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: a top ten quarterback. I might push back against that
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: a little bit, but he's definitely he definitely top twenty
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: quarterback based on numbers. I mean, they dwarf most people.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: But if I was comparing him to I'm not trying
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: to diminish him. Incredible. He's first ballot Hall of Famer
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: complete back. Everyone knows who that is. And then there's
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Adam vin Terry that wasn't even good in college. Uh,
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: barely got a shot to even go to training camp,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: was more like an extra leg there you look back
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: twenty five years later, even Bill Parcells was quoted in
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: this story going, not in a million years when I
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: first met Adam Vinitarians I'm in training camp, that I
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: would have thought thirty years later this guy would be
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: considered not only one of, if not the greatest kicker
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: of all time, definitely the most clutch kicker of all time.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: It also shows you this, we all get different opportunities
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: at different moments, and we never often like are we
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: really prepared for an opportunity? Like sometimes you are, sometimes
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: you're not, And when that opportunity comes, sometimes you don't
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: even realize you're in it till later when you look back.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: But you either got to get it done or you don't.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: And sometimes when things go well, when that opportunity arises,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: it can literally change the course of your life. And honestly,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: I don't think I understood the background of Adam VENTITII.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: Now a lot historically kickers and punters have gone and
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: have great careers that are undrafted. That that part isn't
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: that crazy. But this was not a guy getting phone
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: calls out of college. This was not a guy that
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: had a bunch of invitations leaving South Dakota State. That'll
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: happen when you made twenty seven field goals and missed
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: twenty six. You know this guy wasn't exactly shattering one
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: double A records down in the Dakotas. And now you
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: look up and Adam Vanity is I would say, as
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: household a name as the other guys he's going into
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: in the class with. Like when you say Drew Brees,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: you know you introduced Larry Fitzgerald, Adam Vinieri, no one
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: that has followed football during the Internet era. Like, clearly
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: a quarterback is more important than a kicker big picture,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: but just in terms of name recognition and star power,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: he's kind of got it. I mean, he played an
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: integral role for two teams that happened to be like
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: led by two of the greatest quarterbacks of all time,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Tom Brady and Paid Manning, and a lot like Brady
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Belichick kind of shorted him, Hey, yeah, I don't really
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: want to pay it, like, okay, I'll go to the Colts.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: And what happened is first year there, beat the Patriots
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: and won a Super Bowl at Paid Manning and then
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: stay there the rest of his career. And I just
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: think it's an incredibly cool story. And the thing I
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: like most about training camp is when all the dust settles,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: things like this happen. All of a sudden, this random
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: guy becomes part of a team, and he's gonna be
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: putting positions to succeed. He's gonna be putting positions to
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: be a second contract guy once they name him the
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: starter at any position, Like if you get the you
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: can be playing for shitty teams. Everyone's watching you. You know,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: the eye in the sky doesn't lie. I think about
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: this all the time, Like professionally, when I interact with
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: other people, everyone talks. My business is relatively small. You
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: can play like two degrees of separation with most people
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: that kind of work in the space and word travels
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: really fast. That guy's kind of a dick. The guy's
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: kind of a diva. You don't want to work with
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: that guy. I hear this stuff all the time of
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: people that not only have I never met, I might
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: never meet. But who knows, some of this stuff might
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: not be totally true. But once you get that reputation,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: it kind of becomes who you are. It's no different
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: as a player. And the reputation is not, you know,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: a guessing game. It's all dictated on the film. You know,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: we'll get into some of the mailbag questions about like
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: middle Coop, you're so hard on this quarterback. You hate
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: this quarterback. I was just reacting to what NFL coaches
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: and GMS told you they think about these quarterbacks. That's
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: not my list. I didn't have Jalen Hurts at seventeen. Now,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: maybe if I made one, I would have him closer
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: to seventeen, probably than ten. But like, I didn't put
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: that number next to his name. I didn't put you know,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: some of these guys wherever they ended up landing. Not
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: put Lamar Jackson in the top five. Put this guy
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: at two. Put this guy at twenty eight. They did that,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: And they're the guys and I've seen it firsthand who
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: spend the majority of their life with a clicker in
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: their hand watching film on everyone in the NFL. Think
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: how often you hear or read an article or hear
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: a coach talk or a player talk. Be like, yeah,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: every Tuesday or every Thursday, he goes over all the
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: touchdown passes from the previous week, the all the fuck
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: ups around the league, all the whatever the situation is.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Most coaches dedicate thirty minutes an hour to these different
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: situations throughout the week with the entire team, and they
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: go over it. And typically those are two teams that
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: you know, if I'm the Dallas Cowboys or the New
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: England Patriots, it might be the Jags against you know,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: the LA Chargers, and that year I might not even
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: be playing these teams. But my coach, the staff has
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: been paying attention, because they pay attention to everything. And
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: the best part about the NFL is once you get
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: that shot, especially if you earn your shot during training camp,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: I can make a team. The possibilities are endless. It
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: is truly on you, right, it truly is. And we
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: see it every year. There's a million of these stories.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: Think how many prominent players from the last ten years.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: For every Aaron Donald and JJ Watt and all these
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: guys drafted high, there are a million Richard Sherman's and
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: George Kittle's and Jason Kelsey's and Guy brock Perties and
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: all these guys drafted in these later rounds that go
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: on to play in the league and be Pro Bowlers
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: and get huge contracts. Pooka Nakua's I mean I can
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: literally go every team and find a guy Dak Prescott
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: make a sixty million dollars a year, was a fourth
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: fucking round pick because in his training camp he shows
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: up probably just like a I just want to make
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: the team. By the end of camp, Romo's back shattered,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Kellen Moore's hands, you know, pointing the other way, and
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Dak Prescott's your quarterback. That's how fast it happened. So
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: we talk a lot about injuries on this show. You
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: just out of the forty nine ers, get the majority
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: of the discussion around him. But they happened everywhere, to everybody,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: to every position group, and they can happen at a
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: moment's notice. The starter goes down all of a sudden.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Ten plays later, the backup goes down and boom you're playing.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: You're like, god, it's only week three. You get the
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: rest of the season to prove yourself, not just to
• 25:59
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  Speaker 1: gonna take a little bit of a left turn. I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna try to keep my composure on this
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: one because this is one of those that that not
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: only angers me, it's a story that kind of hurts
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: my soul and my heart, and it's just something in
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: a human being that means a lot to me. Can
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: BR is a radio station in northern California. But like WFAN,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: for example, in New York. It is an extremely powerful
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: radio station. I think they're called like fifty thousand watts
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: or whatever. You can hear it basically everywhere in California
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: except like Los Angeles, and the majority of my life,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: especially as a kid, it was the only thing on
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: in my dad's car six point eighty. It was just
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: on in the truck, and no matter where we were.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: He could be driving down in the valley, he could
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: be driving down you know, south of Santa Clara, which
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: was probably an hour and a half from where I
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: grew up. You can go up to Lake Tahoe. You
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: could hear it everywhere, and it was a really really
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: big deal and one of the prominent voices on that
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: station because he's the voice of the forty nine ers.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: Greg Papa is currently fighting for his life. Last year
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: during summer vacation, I think he went to Europe and
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: he got really sick and he went to a doctor
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: when he was I think it was in Spain or France,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: and they said you got to get home, and he
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: rushed home. I think he went right to Stanford Medical
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: and they found out he had leukemia. And for the
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: last calendar year plus. He has literally been fighting for
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: his life. And he had a prominent radio show on
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: CANBR when I first got into radio. He had the
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: biggest show, or one of the biggest shows in the
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: market on the station that I got hired by. And
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: I not only worked with him, I became close friends
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: with him. I not only professionally looked up to him.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time hanging out with him. Greg.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Greg's a cool cat and he likes to have a
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: good time. He knows everyone in town, and he's a guy.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: If you want to go out for a couple of
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: cocktails in northern California, you want to go with him
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: because there is not anyone that doesn't know him. And
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: I would imagine a lot of guys listening to this
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: right now, whether you're in Minnesota, whether you're in Dallas,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: whether you're in Miami, any of the markets right you
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: have prominent voices. This guy is the main Miami Dolphins guy.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: You know Scott Zolac. You think Scott Zolach, you think
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: the New England Patriots. Right moved to Arizona. Ron Wolfley
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: had a radio show and he was the analyst for
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: the Cardinals huge personality, said off the wall, shit, everyone
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: kind of knew who Ron Wolfly was. That was great,
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: except he literally did it with every team. He was
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: the voice of the Oakland Raiders for twenty plus years.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: He has called forty nine er games now for six
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: or seven years, done multiple Super Bowls. Oh yeah. He
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: also called A's games. You could hear him in the
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: movie Moneyball when they Scott Haddiberg came back because he
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: was the voice of the A's. Oh yeah. He's also
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: been one of the voices of the San Fransco Giants
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: as well as the Golden State Warriors. He literally has
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: an association with every fucking team in the market. Oh yeah.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: He's been a prominent radio host for decades. And as
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: he's fighting leukemia while his son also works for the station,
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: they fired him yesterday. Now, this is a station that
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: is owned by a company called Cumulus. I think they
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: just filed for bankruptcy. They financially have some issues. I
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: don't pretend to know all the ins and outs of
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: how disability and insurance comes when you run these major companies,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: but I do know this, when you have some some
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: human being who means a ton to a certain region,
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: who has been financially viable for everyone who's been business
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: in business with him because of his production, especially in
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: the radio business, where he historically has rated extremely well.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: Means if you're a radio station, you want to be
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: in business with him because you can make money off him,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: who right now can't work because he almost died. The
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: recent article came out, I haven't texted with him in
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: a minute that a couple times his lungs filled up
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: as he's going through chemotherapy and he was basically on
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: his deathbed. Guy Haberman, who came on the show last year,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: who also is very close with Greg, has been you
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: know guys, a play by play guy has looked up
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: to Greg filled in for him last year doing the
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: forty nine ers, and by all accounts, it looks like
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: he's gonna have to fill in for him again this year,
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: depending on his health status, and be the voice of
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, you know, this year, because Greg
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: can't do it. And I don't know if Greg's ever
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: going to have the capability to do radio and to
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: do these shows, but it's not because he doesn't want to.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: And even he said, like I plan on I want
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: to try to do radio again, and you fire the
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: guy as he's fighting for his life. It's one thing
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: to fire John Middlcoff. I just don't think you're good enough. Okay,
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: some people on the internet might be mad. I'll be like,
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: I'll show you, but like it's a dirty, cruel world,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: and that that was an eye opener for me. It's like, God,
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: I'm rating, well, we're making money, Like yeah, Mark Davis
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: wants you out. It's like, okay, I mean the way
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: world works. It's another thing to fire one of the
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: most legendary individuals in the history of the region, who
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: literally is the voice of the forty nine ers, which
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: your radio station where he works is partners with. I
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: just I was at a loss when I saw it.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: I just went I've been trying to contain myself and
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: I'll say something. I will regret very negative on terrestrial
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: radio over the course of the decade, because I've seen
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: it firsthand, the impact of myself leaving that line of
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: work going into the digital space. So I shorted terrestrial
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: radio a long time ago. Now there are certain markets
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: where it thrives, Philadelphia, New York City, Boston, the Bay
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: Area is not near what it used to be in
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: terms of the power of that station, but they still
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: have The forty nine ers, Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: come on that station every single week. Trent Williams, who
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: fought cancer what seven eight years ago, came on the station.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Because when your partners with the NFL team, like I
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: would imagine, whoever whatever market you live in, the team,
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: your favorite team, their radio station. Their partners usually do
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: stuff at training camp. When I was at the ninety
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: five to seven we were partners with the radio. It
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: was pretty cool. We would have a setup inside the
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: gates in NAPA which didn't suck, and do Raiders' training
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: camp and Khalil Mack, Charles Woodson, Sebastian Janakowski, they would
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: literally just all come on because we would just see
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: him right there. Every single player, Amari Cooper, you name it.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: There wasn't a prominent player the Raiders had during that
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: time that not only we couldn't get. They would just
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: kind of come out or come hang out and do
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: great interviews. It's incredible access for the partners of the team. Well,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Trent Williams last week was just on. Can b are
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: The only reason I know not because I was listening live.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: Can BR posted it and the whole post was about
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Trent wishing Greg because he's got to know him since
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: he's been on the Niners and Greg's calling the games.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: They both like, you know, the stuff we like in
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Northern California grows from a tree and they've become good buddies.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: And basically was like, I've been through this, I'm thinking
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: about him, I'm wishing him well, and they fucking reposted
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: it or they created the content and then they posted
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: it about great Papa getting well, and less than a
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: week later, they're like, yeah, we're firing him. It's like,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: what business is cold. We all get that, but there
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: is a way to and not to do business. There
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: is a way to lose credibility and just being like
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: you're not a serious operation. This is also a company
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: that I think, like fifteen years ago, the most prominent
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: radio show on that station was Tom Tolbert, who no
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: longer works for KNBR, but was one of the biggest
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: afternoon hosts in the country. He had played for the
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Golden State Warriors, he was college teammates with Steve Kerr.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: He's just a big sports guy. He just fit perfectly
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: in the market, great guy, legendary host. His partner, Ralph Barbieri,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: also got fired. Well, he had Parkinson's disease. He ended
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: up suing the company for ten million dollars and he
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: won because in states like California, when a guy gets sick,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: you can't just fire him. And here's the other thing.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: The PR campaign on Greg's side will be one hundred
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: to zero. I just think this notion that these companies,
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: it's just it's an embarrassment. It's embarrassment to the industry's
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: it symbolizes what a disaster of the industry is and
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: to just I don't even want to use the word embarrassed.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: Greg's been fired before, you know. Ironically, he's the forty
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: nine Ers voice. Who's Kyle Shanahan's the coach. He he
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: was very very close with Al Davis. I think he
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: considered Al Davis like his second father. They were thickest thieves.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: He loved Al Davis. I've never met a human being
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: beside the Davis family that loved the Raiders more than Greg. Papa.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: Greg loves football and he loved the Raiders and Mark
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: Davis was going to interview. I can't remember if this
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: is after they fired Del Rio or Dennis Allen, it
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: must have been del Rio. He wanted to interview Mike Shanahan,
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Kyle's dad, and it turns out that Mike Shanahan is
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: and Al Davis were mortal enemies. And Greg couldn't fathom
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: that Mark Davis would interview a man that his dad,
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: he claimed, would like roll over in his grave if
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: they ever made the head coach of the Raiders. Well,
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: Mark took offense to that, and him and Greg had
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: already kind of butted heads and fired him specifically for
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: that moment, and it, you know, it crushed Greg. I mean,
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: the Raiders were like a part of his soul. They
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: were the import and some that franchise, to the man,
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: was unlike anything I've ever seen. A lot of you
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: guys are die hard fans love your squad. This was
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: deeper than that. It was like family. It really ruined
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: them and you transition well to the Niners, but that love.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: It's like they say, we you're firstborn, you just kind
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: of like them a little more. You know, I'm firstborn.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: It feel always like my parents like me a little more.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Maybe not my dad, I think like my brother, But man,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: I just just embarrassing. It truly is some of these
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: people running these operations feel like they just have no
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: clue what they're doing, They have no understanding of, Like,
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: this is not a good idea. Sometimes you got to
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: stand up in a meeting if you listen, I'm not
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: claiming I'm some fortune five hundred CEO or I have
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: all the answers. But there are certain moments where any
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: level headed person can go, Yeah, I don't think that's
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: a good idea. Let's, uh, let's do something else. It's like, uh,
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: let's let's figure out someone else that we can get
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: rid of. This is not gonna go over well, and
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: it has gone over a lot like a turn in
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: a punch bowl, as it should, because you just fire
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: a legendary human being who's battling leukemia. Probably not the
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: best idea. So get well soon, Greg, and fuck that place.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: Let's dive into a couple of mailbag questions before we
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: get out of here. The best part of the Mike
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Shanahan story is Bill Romanowski and Rod Woodson. It's kind
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: of how I got started in radio. Before I got
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: a show. I used to go be a part of
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: the Football Hour, and the Football Hour used to be
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Bill Romanowski, Greg Papa, myself and Rod Woodson. It was
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: like sometimes I'd look around and like this is crazy
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: that I have. You know, I was like thirty years old.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: They're they're going to me for different takes with Hall
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: of Famer and Romanowski. He's got super Bowl rings on
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: a bunch of different teams, and and Bill when Greg
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: was going because Bill wanted my Bill loves Mike Shannon
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: because he played for him in Denver. He just he
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: looked at Greg after Greg said that's his mortal enemy,
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: and he was like Greg, who is not Al Davis's
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: mortal enemy? Like Al hated everybody. He also said that
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: Rod Woodson was kind of a pussy and claimed he
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: didn't like tackling. They almost got into a fight. It
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: was just it was and I would you know, Rod's
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: one of those guys. He's not very loud. His tone
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: is like pretty consistent. You know, Bill's very animated. Rod
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: is sneaky big too, like Bill's obviously really big dude.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Rod Is, I mean, that's a big defensive back. But
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: he's not like he's not Ray Lewis on a microphone.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: You know, He's just he's pretty calm and collected. I
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: remember looking in his eyes when Bill essentially said, like, Bro,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: you didn't like to tackle. You weren't that physical? It was.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: It was like the most offensive thing you could tell
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: Rod Woodson. I thought they were gonna fight. I was like,
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: I'm getting out of here. Good times. Uh mailback at
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: John Middlecoff. At John Middlecoff is the Instagram fire in
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: those dms? Get your questions answered here on the show.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: I just this isn't a question. I just wanted to
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: read it. Hey man, we get it. You hate JJ McCarthy.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: It's sad how much hate in your heart you have
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: for this kid. That's just funny. I mean, that's who
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: do you think hates some more all the people in
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: the media that say he's not gonna make it, or
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: like the teammates like Justin Jefferson, Kevin O'Connell, h the
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: other a wide receivers. In all serious is I don't
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: hate anybody, I truly do. I was thinking about that
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: today when I when I kind of took a screenshot
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: of that picture. But I don't think I hate anybody
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: in life. There's some things I see on the internet.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't stand that person. I don't hate them.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: I guess I really don't. And definitely when it comes
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: to football players, there is no hate for any of
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: these guys. This is all just business to me. But
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: let's be real, I mean the guys he's what was
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: the what was the quote in Sando's article from like
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: an unnamed coach or gm JJ McCarthy makes football look hard.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: It's like, jeez, Jesus, not any good. A lot of
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks aren't ay good. Like if you it's funny if
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: you say, like, h just pick a random guy Anthony
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: Richardson or I don't even know. I'm trying to think
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: of like guys drafted high recently that aren't any good,
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: Like Deshaun Watson. The guy's not any good anymore. No
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: one's like you hate Deshaun Watson. They'd be like, yeah,
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: I agree, not any good. But you're like, oh, j
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: or JJ McCarthy's not any good. You're like you fucking
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: hate her. You have so much hate deep in your soul.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: What is wrong? You have a personal agenda. It's like, no,
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: I just watched him play. He was overthrowing every ball.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: I was like, I'm watching a football to know, like
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: that's not any good. You know, that's not gonna work.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: I honestly, I think I thought it was gonna be
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: pretty good. When they drafted him. I thought it's like, oh,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: you can be like Jimmy Garoppolo or something. That was
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: probably my comp like Jimmy Garoppolo kind of play like that.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: Turns out he's like JaMarcus Russell, with more effort and
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: less harm. The only channels I got this guy grew
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: up in Canada. The only channels I got growing up
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: on the farm were Buffalo games. The first game I
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: ever watched was the early two thousand Bucks defense smoking
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: Buffalo and JP Lossman. So ben a fan ever since.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: But I digress. What are your real realistic expectations for
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: the Bucks? We have a sneaky good roster and an
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: oh line was riddled with injuries. I think if all
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: things go well, you win ten games, you know. I
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: think the Vidavea situations in the Baker situation are always
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: a little touch and go right, Like, if Baker's doing well,
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: he'll feel good because he'll know he's got a big
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: contract waiting at the end. If it's not going well,
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: how does he act? You know, Videvea. Is he just
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: going to not practice all camp he's a bigger guy,
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: and then just playing the games. That's kind of risky
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: from an injury standpoint. But they definitely have good players, right.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, they drafted Abuca last year because I think
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: they knew Mike Evans was a free agent. There's no
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: guarantee they're just going to keep him forever. They have
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: some good young players on the defensive line going along
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: with Vidavea. I saw again, you gotta be careful about
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: overreacting to one on one reps O line D line.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: It's a it's a huge advantage for the D line.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: But ruben Bain had a rush. You're like, God, damn,
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: this guy looks sweet. So I think ruben Bain, I'd
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: put his over under its sacks like nine and a half.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: I would imagine he's got double digits set. I think
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: ruben Bain's gonna be a core piece for this franchise
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: for a long time. Can you discuss the work life
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: for a GM during the season. Is it just as
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: busy during the offseason when I assume there's more emphasis
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: on preparing for the draft and roster construction via trades,
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: free agency contract extensions of training camp. I think it
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: probably depends GM to GM. I would say, let's just
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: go Monday after a game. You know, most GMS come
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: in in the morning, they watch the tape, and they
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: link up with their coach or their owner and discuss
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: the game, any transactions that need to be made, injuries
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: that happened, and kind of the roster construction on a
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: weekly basis based on the game, what guys on injury
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: reserve or pop or whatever whatever time of year might
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: be coming back. So you spend Monday kind of doing that,
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: and it also depends on the time of the year.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: But then throughout the week, you obviously go to practice,
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: you're with your coach, like you're kind of your coach's
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: right hand guy of like this, we need to change this.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: Maybe depending on your role as a GM, you're interacting
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: with the offensive defensive coordinator. You're constantly working with your
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: scouting department. You know, hey, we need to put together
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: a workout because we are full back broke his leg,
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: or our backup linebacker broke his leg. We need to
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: work out three linebackers. So you're running stuff like that.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: You are also constantly watching the league not just your
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: own team, so usually the opponent that's coming up. You're
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: watching the free agents, probably a segment of them every week,
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: so you're just maintaining as the year goes on, you
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: can put grades on them. You're also watching the draft prospects,
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: so every week you put a certain percentage of guys
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: that you want to watch. I think how we did
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: it by position or by school, and you're working with
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: your college director if they're funneling you reports, you're reading
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: those reports. Depending on the week. Right Let's say it's
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: October and you're playing in you're playing the Detroit Lions.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: Maybe you go a couple days early and you try
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: to go to the Michigan Penn State game, or you're
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: playing the Eagles and you go see Penn State, Ohio State,
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: or you're playing Seattle and maybe that week, you know,
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: you drive down to Oregon on Saturday to watch the game.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: So it's some of that, but it's a lot like
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: you're around your team all the time, you're watching practice,
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: and then there's a million other things. You know, things
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: come up, whether it's dealing with the training room, dealing
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: with the equipment staff, dealing with your owner, negotiating contracts,
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: working on contracts, working on contractual issues, people being mad.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: So I think every week you got a handful of
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: things that you have no clue are coming beside what
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: your routine is of watching your own team's tape, watching
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: practice tape, watching your opponent's tape, watching free agents, and
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: watching draft picks, because when the season ends, you should
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: have I don't know what the number is, but a
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: large percentage of the college guys drafted. So come January one,
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: going into the All Star Games, you've watched a large,
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: large percentage of the draft, even if some of the
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: guys are just a couple games. You have exposure to
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: a lot of the players, and obviously you've read the
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: reports throughout the year as well, so it's just accumulating
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: knowledge NonStop on the draft. The draft thing is three
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: to sixty five for the GMS, and same thing with
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: free agency. Now, sometimes free agency if like, hey, we
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: know we're going to be in the mix for some
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: free agent dbs, so you just kind of watch that
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: group a little more closely. But I think you always
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: kind of approach it. You watch every position obviously, then
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: working trades, turning your practice squads, You're constantly watching all
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: the preseason tape the first couple months on because there
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: are a lot of guys on practice squad that have
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: never played an NFL game, so their only resume is
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: the preseason games. So you've got to rank all the
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: guys that only have preseason film that are on practice squads.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: So if you need a guy that you want to
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: steal from someone else's practice squad. You guys put together
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: like a free agency board that's always getting updated as
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: guys get signed and your guys get elevated. There's a
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: lot of watching football. I mean, and I'm not talking
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: like football with Jim Nanson, Toni Romo or Troy Aikman
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: and Joe Bucks. It's all twenty two tape. So if
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: you like music or podcasts, you can listen to something,
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: but it's it's the silent tape. I'm glad you defended
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: Dak after his bad stat against good teams was thrown
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: out there by the Eagles. In my opinion, the twelve
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: and five offenses were completely elevated by Dak to some degree.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: No disrespect to these guys, but we had Noah Brown
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: as our number two wide receiver and a wash Zeke
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: going against the loaded Niners in the twenty two divisional round.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: Jerry always liked our guys. We'd limp into the playoffs
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: every year and get beat. Most of the guys in
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: that offense aren't doing much on their new teams. Now,
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: he puts thirty plus touchdowns every year and went healthy
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: thirty seven and ten in the division one of the
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: best rookie seasons of all time thirteen to three. No
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: matter what coach or players are around him right now,
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: I feel like he's in the high end Jared Goff
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: to low end Joe Burrow archetype. All he needs is
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and he's in the Drew Brees Peyton
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: Manning conversation. Peyton man let's pump the breaks, Drew Brees.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: If you gave Dak to Peyton for ten years, I
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: think he would look better. He's closer to Drew Brees.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: And I'm not saying he's better or even equal to
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: Drew Brees. But Peyton Manning is in a different universe
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: to me than Drew Brees. But I hear what you're saying.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: Your take on Dak's career, Well one, he was a
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: fourth round pick and he's gonna make five hundred million
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: dollars and let's say Cowboys have a couple more good seasons.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: Have been a guy that took the Cowboys to the
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: playoffs six or seven times through out his career. But
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: the way to really separate his legacy from like Tony Romo,
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: a guy that put up good stats, went to Pro
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: Bowls and made a bunch of money. I do think
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: he needs a couple definitive playoff moments, big playoff drive,
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: some big playoff wins. If he never wins a Super Bowl,
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: because if you're a betting man right now, you would
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: say Dak Prescott's probably never gonna win a Super Bowl.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: But could he be the first guy to get him
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: back to the NFC Championship game. Imagine if the Cowboys
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: were just like the three seed and won back to
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: back games and we're in the NFC Championship Game. That
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: would I don't want to say validate his career, but
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: that would be an enormous moment for the guy. I mean,
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: the Cowboys haven't been to that game in thirty years,
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: so obviously he won a Super Bowl, it would be massive.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: He'd be in this weird spot. I mean, he won
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: a super Bowl and he bowled out. I obviously a
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame he'd start talking about it. But I
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: do think if over the next couple of years he
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: could get them to the NFC Championship game. It's like
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, Jalen Hurts won a Super Bowl last year,
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: they led the league in three and outs, He'd be like, oh,
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: Kevin Patula, It's like, yeah, he still missed wide open
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: guys like I watched it. The OC can be bad
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: and he can be bad too, right, So it's like
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: Jalen just a polarizing player, but you could never take
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: away It's like, yeah, he played in Super Bowl dominated
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: like that happened. So Jalen Hurts the rest of his
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: career could be really shitty. You can never take that
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: away from him. Ever, So winning a Super Bowl is
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: just the ultimate trump card. It's like Eli. I watched
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: a lot of Eli seasons where he didn't even look
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: that good. It's like, well, got hot two super bowls
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: beat Tom Brady's like trump card? What are you gonna say?
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: End of argument. So I think his career one has
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: been an enormous success. Any quarterback that's not a first
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: round pick Jalen Hurts was like a late second round pick.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: His season could end, his career could end tomorrow. Incredible success.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, incredible success. Russell Wilson third round pick. You're
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: talking these guys their second, third, fourth round picks like
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: people would go like, are Derek Carr and Jimmy Garoppolo's
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: career successful? Fuck yeah? I mean you're a starter for
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: like seven, eight, ten years in the league as a
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: non top ten pick. That's an incredible accomplishment. You get
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: drafted on the third day, not the second day when
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: they got multiple rounds. You have to wait till the
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: third day, and you go on to have a long, lucrative,
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: successful career and just be a high level guy. Very impressive.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: What does your self proclaimed professional weakness? Most extroverted sales
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: guys I know who can talk to a brick wall
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: like yourself, never talking to a brick wall. But I
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: hear what you're saying, have no administrative skills and are
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: extremely disorganized. What percentage of uptick in podcast traffic do
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: you see when the NFL season gets started. I'm extremely disorganized.
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: I mean I am. I would not call myself an
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: organized individual, having been around like play by play guys
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: in different people in the NFL to just see, like
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: what organizational look what organization looks like like if you
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: just looked at my computer with documents all over the place,
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: my desk disaster, not organized at all, professional weakness, don't
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: have great hair, which in my profession not ideal. I
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: would say, yeah, very extremely disorganized. Yeah, I mean football
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: season is traffic goes up. We do well in the
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: off season, you know, I would say June and July
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: slow down a little bit. But free agencies used for
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: us the draft off season, like we do well, you know, clearly.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: Football season is it's carries the business, you know, I
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: mean the advertising revenue doubles, the importance of the power
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: of eyeballs. You just can't. I mean, it's the old
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: I was talking to someone yesterday in the business world
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: that nothing else in America can get this many people
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: in one spot altogether. At the same time I was
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: looking today because we were talking about arch Manning. Last year,
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: Ohio State and Texas on the West Coast kicked off
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: at nine am big noon kickoff. Seventeen million people watched.
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: It's one of the most watched non NFL games. In
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: the history of Fox beside like World Series or something.
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: It's just crazy how many people watch football, college included,
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: and the power of the sport, you know. I mean,
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: I'm essentially drafting off the popularity. I can't wait to
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: visit Seattle and watch the Chiefs take on the defending
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: champs in October. My girlfriend is a dieart swifty and
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: she's excited too regarding the Bills, because you hope to
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: get a little sneak peek at Taylor roaming around. I
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: saw that Travis, you know, there was like a shot
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: of him looking kind of fat. Then Andy said, he's
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: in great shape. It's like, guys, I think I live.
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: I kind of appreciate. I missed the days when dudes
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: in pro sports would show up to training camp like
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: what have you been doing? Drinking beer? Smoking cigarettes? And
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: then the guy would just be at all pro like that.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: And I'm not saying Travis at this age can do that,
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: but like the expectation now to come into training camp,
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: what have you been doing training eight hours a day
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: the last forty five days. I don't know a lot
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: of Hall of famers in the seventies and eighties and nineties,
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: like didn't go to equinox three times a day in
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: the middle of July and we're fine. I'm not defending him.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, totally understandable, he just got married. But I
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: just think we I do wonder how many injuries come
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: from over training, and I get why guys overtrained, because
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: in your mind, you're like, I gotta do whatever I
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: have to do to keep my spot. Regarding the bills,
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: you're often critical of coordinators becoming head coaches and need
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: to deal with increased responsibility and issues on both sides
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: of the ball. Do you believe Brady is cut out
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: for the new role and the challenges that come with it.
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: I have not heard you or other media members have
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: any concerns regarding the transition. I do think one big
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: advantage he has is he's been there. So when you
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: elevate the coordinator who was the coordinator of by far
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: the best side of the ball, and he knows all
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: the players and the GM, it is an easier transition, right.
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that when one of his players gets
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: a duy or one of the guy's wife has, you know,
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: a miscarriage, and the guys just can't folk like those
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: now are all on him. Regardless what position the guy plays.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: The guys has some personal issue, the guys just depressed
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: for whatever reason, Like you got to deal with that
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: all and as a coordinator, if it's not on your
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: side of the ball, you don't have it's not your problem.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: And even sometimes when it is, like the head coach
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: and the GM still deal with it. So all that
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: shit comes to your plate, it's all on you. That's
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: why that skill like being a head coach, especially in
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty six with the world we live in social media,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: it's got a lot of weird things going on. And
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: I think he's actually more equipped because some of the
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: younger guys. It shows you can relate a little more
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: to younger guys. I just had a brief conversation with
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: him at the combine, but I've watched him. I think
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: he's a really impressive guy. But until you're in the
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: firing line of like what's actually happening, you never know,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: you know, I mean last year, think then they trade
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: for Sleigh and then he quit, and then they made
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: a personnel move and the guy they wanted to bring
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: back was claimed on waivers, you know, like Joe Brady
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: didn't have to deal with any of that. Sean did though,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: and that's it's back to the opportunity thing. And until
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: you're sitting in the seat, you never know. Let's face it,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: there's a learning curve like Jim Harbaugh or John Harbaugh
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: or Andy Reid or Sean Payton, like, there's not that
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: much that's gonna come across their desk that they haven't seen.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: So it's just a big advantage from a stress standpoint.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: Think about when you try something new and things aren't working,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: you know, a new job, there's a lot of anxiety
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: that comes with that. One underrated part of the gig
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: is that, you know, I was asked, like, what does
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: a GM do every day? They spend a lot of
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: time and deal with the head coach, like those guys
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: are meeting constantly. And one I would say disadvantage or
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: just part of the learning curve is your relationship with
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: a guy that you're in business with. Think how much
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: stronger your relationship is professionally after five ten years working
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: with somebody. I'm sure a lot of people listening to
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: this have been working with an individual or multiple individuals
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: on a very very close basis and after a while
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: like you kind of know the way they think and
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: how to deal with them. The moment you first start
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: working with somebody, there is just it takes some time,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: and sometimes you butt head, sometimes you disagree because you guys,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: maybe the communications a little bit off. And I just
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: think it's an easier transition when you already know the guy.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: It doesn't mean it's perfect, and his personality is different
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: than Sean mcdermot's. But I'm high on I'm high on
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: Joe Brady. I mean, I expect them to be pretty good,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: but I can't pretend to know how he'll handle crazy
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: shit because crazy stuff is bound to hit. I would
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: like to offer some perspective regarding quarterbacks that are under
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: six feet and athletic. I was a five nine, one
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: hundred and sixty five pound quarterback in college. Quarterbacks who
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: are most athletic in high school, in college and under
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: six foot do not work. I found out real quick
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: the difficulty of playing quarterback in college, not because of talent,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: but because of lack of height. I was a starting
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: quarterback as a true freshman, and running around like Johnny Manziel.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: It didn't matter when you have six or five tackles
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: it catches up to a short quarterback. Kyler Murray is
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: an all time great athlete, but when you're that short,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: it's really hard. Especially in the NFL. Owner, gms and
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: coaches should realize by how super athletic quarterbacks under six
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: foot do not work. Thanks for your time. It's just
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: basic math, right. There's a reason you don't ask the
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: shooting guard to cover shack. There's a reason Steph Curry
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: doesn't check Yokic. Right, It's just a math problem. It's
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: why if you get a look downfield of your six
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: five Grinkowski or wide receiver Mike Evans on a five
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: to ten corner, throw it up to the guy. The
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: bag isn't literal, John, it's slang, fam please don't die
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: on this hill, but it is literal. I heard a
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: funny story the other day on the internet. I was
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: watching Taylor Luan talking to DeVante Adams, and DeVante Adams said,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: when he got traded to the Jets, a rookie had
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: number seventeen, so he put seventeen thousand dollars in a bag,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: and he's like, listen, he looked the rookie had played.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: I forget. When DeVante got traded like middle late October.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: The rookie had played four games, four game or excuse me,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: four snaps, four snaps, so he'd barely play. Devantes's like,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: this guy has no connection to this number. It's not
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: like he's been making plays. I'm going to offer him
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: seventeen thousand dollars and tell him any of his family
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: members who bought your jersey number seventeen, I will give
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: you even more money. I will pay for them to
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: get new jerseys. So he looks at the guy with
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: his bag of money, because bags of money have been
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: around forever, right, and offer him seventeen thousand dollars, which
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: in actual cash if you think about it in Jersey
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: or New York, that's like thirty two thirty five thousand
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: dollars if you factor in like a wire. And he said.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: The kid looked at him and said, I appreciate it,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: but I'm gonna need a million dollars. And I think
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: Davante was show shocked, so he was like, what what
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: did he just say? I'm gonna need a million dollars
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: spam And the next day he went to Woody Johnson
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: and he said, I want seventeen and Woody Johnson took
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: the number from him and gave it to him. So
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: the guy, instead of getting a bag of seventeen thousand dollars,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: got zero dollars. Terrible financial move by that young fellow.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: But I understand it's not literal because there's literally bags
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: the money. That's that's part of it. It's like, hey,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: you got a cool car. I'm not saying it's cool outside.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: It's like it's a cool car, right because like that,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: to me, that's like the bag of Like he got
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: a bag that actually exists, right, Like that's what it is.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: I feel like I am gonna die in that hill.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, all these fucking players talk about the taxes.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: Every NBA podcast is like, fuck, I got seven hundred
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: and fifty million dollars. I don't have a penny to
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: show for it because of taxes. Like, yeah, I feel
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: your dog agent fees, buying my mom's seven homes part
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: of it. You know, sucks. My question in terms of
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: sports talk, terrestrial radio morphed into podcasts, which morphed into
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: video simulcasts. Where does the industry go next? What are
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: the headwinds? I mean, fuck, great question. I don't know
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: whatever they are just once the wind starts blown away
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: and it's working, you get out your you know, your
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: paarasaal and you just follow it. I don't pretend to
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: be Zuckerberg or eel on here. I don't know no
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: clue honestly, I mean, I don't know what you know, AI,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: What are they going to have AI Middle cough? Maybe
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: that guy's AI middle Coff's pretty entertaining. I just want
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: some royalties, honestly, have no clue. I'm kind of like
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: coach Cliche. Just kind of head down, feet where they're at,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: and just just keep swinging and then if it's time
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: to pivot. We got a lot of smart people part
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: of this operation that are paying attention, get different ideas,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: throw them out there. We're not afraid to hang lefts
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: or rights, whatever we got to do. Luckily, I think
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: the biggest advantage the digital people have is we're pretty fluid.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: You know. It's like, hey, this next thing's out, I
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: don't know what that could be. I listen. I I
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: don't love social media. I get on there. It's just
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: because what works on social media pissing people off, what
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: gets the most attention. It's like I sometimes I look
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: at the athletic. Like an article on like best plays
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: of colts practice will have like fifteen comments, and then
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: it's like a Trump comments on the WNBA, We'll have
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: like seven thousand comments. Well so they know what gets
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: clicks and what works, but like, is this a necessary article?
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: You know? I just think that. I mean, I never
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: got on TikTok, and TikTok's massive. I guess I created
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: an account, but I've never tiktoked, or maybe I tried.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: I'm like, this is I don't have this in me,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: you know. I Instagram and Twitter already feel like too much.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: I couldn't even log into my Facebook account if I tried.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I deactivated or deleted it. It
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: does feel like social media is more powerful than ever,
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: but in a weird way, like is really relevant but
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: also not that relevant, like everyone I know in real life,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: like for example, my podcast We're on Netflix and it
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: does really well from an audio standpoint, Like, I first
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: and foremost view myself as an audio guy because the
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: power of audio, and I look at myself as a consumer.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: I still listen to a lot of audio things, right,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: even if I'm listening it from a video form. I'll
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: put it in my pocket and listen to it in
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: my ear. I do that all the time. So I
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: despite the different avenues that have come along for the
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: space in which I'm in, I still consume, and I
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: think I see the number a lot of people still
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: consume things somewhat in a traditional way. It's just not
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: necessarily traditional how they can boom them right. The phones
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: didn't exist twenty years ago. With this capability. You keep
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: talking about Jalen Hurts like he's a bum. He also
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: had coordinators make two different runs of the Super Bowl
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: and hired his head coaches. How many coaches does Dak
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: need to burn through until he reaches the conference championship,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: much less a Super Bowl. I'm so tired of the
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: narrative this guy is terrible for his team in bad contract.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: When he's led two different teams to the Super Bowl.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: I did not want to listen to forty Niners propaganda.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: I keep hearing Jalen Hurts is a problem. After one
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: best season with a bad OC, the league and media
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: talk like he's Bryce Young. I'm sick and tired of it.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: He's out Patrick Mahomes with Josh, but most quarterbacks in
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: the league are not. You can make all the excuses
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: you want. Hurts has grown shown he can deliver in
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: the biggest stages. Yet quarterback like Dak are still waiting
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: for a conference championship appearance. Again, I didn't make the list,
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: but we have to agree. Like, okay, the super Bowl.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: He was really good in the Super Bowl. That was
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, and the running back went
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: for two thousand yards. It's like I used to have
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: a great head of hair. Now like I'm a big
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: like in the future. Last year happened. He was terrible
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: off their passing game was atrocious, their coordinator got fired,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: and then an article came out where I don't think
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: the article just appeared out of thin air, crushing him. Again.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: I didn't write that article. That wasn't like my takes.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: I'm just reacting to the things coming out. I hear you, like,
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: his resume is better than goth is better than Dak.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: Those guys have never excelled in a Super Bowl. Goff's
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: been to one Super Bowl. They scored three points. Dak's
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: never been passed round two of the playoffs. That's a fact.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: Yet in going into the season, every GM and every
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: head coach thinks GoF and dak are Is are both
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: better players than Jalen Hurts universally. So it's like the
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: forty nine Ers propaganda. The fucking forty nine Ers played
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: you last year in the playoffs with a bunch of
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: fucking no names playing defense and you couldn't beat them.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: What was the final score of that game, forty nine
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: Ers Eagles playoff game? They scored nineteen points ninth and
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: they scored six points in the second half. So it's like, yeah,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: some was the coordinator, clearly, but like some has to
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: be the quarterback because there'd be played. Now, it's not
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: all his fault. AJ dropped some balls, and let's face it,
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: they blamed a lot on AG and maybe they're right.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: Time will tell. But again, I'm not creating these narratives.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: This is not my opinion, right, I don't think I'm
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: not creating a narrative. JJ McCarthy sucks. He literally, statistically
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: was the worst quarterback in the league, and by all reports,
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: Kyler Murray's flying past him. Now, is it my opinion
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: that JJ McCarthy's gonna get traded before the season, Yes,
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: it is. I do think it's fair that Jalen Hurts
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: can't be the seventeenth best quarterback in the NFL and
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: make fifty million dollars a year and keep a spot,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: you know, in perpetuity, right the conversation they got big
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: last year, which they did, they will grow. But I
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: agree he's an incredible success story, second round pick, starting
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: quarterback on multiple Super Bowl teams, won a Super Bowl,
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: has has played extremely well. But I think we could
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: go like, why does he even run more? And his
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: highs are you know, it's the one thing like Lamar
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: Jackson's coming off a bad season. Lamar Jackson's highs are like,
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: I'm the greatest running quarterback of all time. I won
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: multiple MVPs. Now in an individual playoff game, I didn't
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: play great, But so I think every conversation is somewhat different.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: This guy's gonna be mad at forty nine of propaganda.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: Here forty nine ers should relocate their training camp practice
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: activities away from Santa Clara, not because of the substation,
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: but because of the unrelenting pr distraction and player anxiety
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: surrounding the site that have become toxic to the franchise.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: While independent scientific reviews have dismissed the viral theory, the
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: narrative is morphed into persistent psychological burden and a damaging
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: organizational meme. This guy, smart guy here, Roger, why not
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: relocate to the Oakland Colisseum as a temporary option. Moving
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: to Oakland completely separates the team from Santa Clara substation,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: instantly shattering the toxic viral narrative. Jed York would get
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: thrown out of a plane before they moved their operation
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: to the Oakland Gulsseum. I see what you're saying, but
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: is that's one of the great dumps. Whatever the substation
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: can do to your body, I'd rather spend time by
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: the substation than be in the oak Colosseum. But in
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: all seriousness, the Raiders never practiced in the substation, or
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: I mean in the coliseum. They had a practice facility,
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: you know, fifteen minutes away in Alameda, maybe not even
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: ten minutes away, So I don't think they ever practiced
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: one time, maybe a walk through, but like their practice
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: where I had a practice facility and their training camp
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: used to be in NAPA. Remember it's spy tech. I
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: know they've kind of thought about over the course of
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: the next several years, maybe doing a couple. The NAPA
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: training camp setup was pretty cool, but I think at
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: this point, if you move the operation, it becomes even
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: a bigger story. But the colisseum is that there's nowhere
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: to meet it. It's not a viable despite being one
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  Speaker 1: of the biggest shiit holes in the history of the Internet,
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  Speaker 1: era of modern day sports. I mean, I'm honestly shocked
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  Speaker 1: they haven't put dynamite around that thing and nuked it,
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  Speaker 1: and just I don't even know what you'd make That
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  Speaker 1: area is not a great area of Oakland over there,
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  Speaker 1: but it's there's nowhere to do anything would be the problem.
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  Speaker 1: One reason these teams, you know, I bet if you
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  Speaker 1: look twenty years ago, most teams went somewhere. Even when
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  Speaker 1: I was a kid, Bill Walsh and the forty nine
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  Speaker 1: ers used to go to Rockland up in Sacramento. When
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  Speaker 1: I was with the Eagles, they went to Lehigh, which
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  Speaker 1: is a small little college our twenty minute drive away
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  Speaker 1: from the practice facility. What do the Eagles do now
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  Speaker 1: practice facility? What are the Niners do now practice the facility?
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  Speaker 1: What do most teams do? Practiced the facility? Because it
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  Speaker 1: is easier, right, players have their locker all the access
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  Speaker 1: to your meeting rooms. All the coaches have access to
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  Speaker 1: their offices. Like when we used to go to Lehigh
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  Speaker 1: and when all these teams did Latrobe or whatever, you
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  Speaker 1: needed a big IT team to come up and set
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  Speaker 1: up all your stuff so you had access to all
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  Speaker 1: the film, the ability to take tapes and put them up.
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  Speaker 1: It's easier now with technology, but you basically just need
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  Speaker 1: to take your operation and move it to wherever you're going.
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  Speaker 1: This guy sent me a picture of the Eagles injury report.
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  Speaker 1: Landard Dickerson rest not injury related, Lane Johnson. Lane Johnson
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  Speaker 1: hasn't been in practice for a minute. I guess it's
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  Speaker 1: Makai Lemon and DeVante Smith are injured. I feel like
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  Speaker 1: this is a great example of the Niners being in
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  Speaker 1: the media because of the substation. No one talks about
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  Speaker 1: Davonte and Lemon injuries. I think this is Lemon's second
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  Speaker 1: hand he drafted. I look every day on rotal World,
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  Speaker 1: which is a fantasy website, just because they kind of
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  Speaker 1: post stories and injuries and I can just kind of
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: fly through what's going around in the NFL and Pro
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  Speaker 1: Football talk. There are countless injuries all over the league.
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  Speaker 1: Every single day of like prominent players, Jalen Watta leaves practice,
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  Speaker 1: hees out so and so. This guy leaves practice, he's
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  Speaker 1: out Bears Kobe Bryant if they just gave a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of money eight to ten weeks. This guy banged his
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  Speaker 1: knee out for a while. This guy carded off every team.
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  Speaker 1: But if be like Camp, the forty nine Ers had
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  Speaker 1: so much momentum on the injuries that once you have
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  Speaker 1: an injury report of twenty plus guys, it's just a
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  Speaker 1: big story. Fair not so like most teams. If they're
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  Speaker 1: they get seven eight guys injury. Yeah, it's training camp.
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  Speaker 1: It happens with the Niners. It's like it's the electromagnetic
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  Speaker 1: fields pulsing through their muscles. And I got Jalen Hurts
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  Speaker 1: his dad tweeting at me, going stop the propaganda. It's like, Bro,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't create the lift. I didn't I think coaches
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  Speaker 1: sometimes I'm not defending Kevin Patula. I don't think he'll
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  Speaker 1: be an offensive coordinator anytime soon. He was clearly bad
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  Speaker 1: because it's his job to figure out plays to work.
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  Speaker 1: But they get all the blame typically, and part of
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  Speaker 1: that is, like, you know, just coming off super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: He had played well in the Super Bowl. But two
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  Speaker 1: things can be true. Coordinator can be bad and the
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  Speaker 1: player cannot play well. But once your resume is good enough,
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  Speaker 1: all the blame goes to coordinator. It happened with Russell
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  Speaker 1: for a while. It definitely happened last year, and it
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  Speaker 1: was easy to to beat up on this guy that
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  Speaker 1: no one knew. It's not like this guy was, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Greg Rome is an example of a guy that's been
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  Speaker 1: fired because I had someone like you never talk about
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  Speaker 1: Justin Herbert. He's gotten he he got a coordinator fired.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, well he was. Like people are all
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  Speaker 1: agreed around the league. It's a top five quarterback. That's
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  Speaker 1: again that is my opinion also, but that's the NFL
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  Speaker 1: GMS and the coaches, all of them. They all voted
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  Speaker 1: and they put them there. Like Sando's not talking to,
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  Speaker 1: you know, pulling fans here. I mean he's pulling the
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  Speaker 1: decision makers, the coordinators, the head coaches, the GMS and
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  Speaker 1: the assistant gms. That's who vote on the list. Those
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  Speaker 1: guys literally watch all this tape and winning and losing
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  Speaker 1: and playing well and not playing well is how these
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  Speaker 1: guys feed their family. So, and I'm not saying some
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  Speaker 1: of them have. They definitely have biases and agendas, but
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  Speaker 1: not all of them. Like a lot of them their
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  Speaker 1: favorite players on other teams in the league. Remember Andy
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  Speaker 1: retelling me like he's like my favorite player in the
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  Speaker 1: league is like Max Crosby, the Chiefs and the Raiders
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  Speaker 1: should hate each other. Yet I bet if you just
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: pulled all the offensive coach around the league, they fucking
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: love Max Crossby, not in terms of when they're playing them,
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  Speaker 1: but just like the respect they have for him. So
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  Speaker 1: it's like most coaches and players like especially the longer
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  Speaker 1: they're around, and have a pretty good idea what it's
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  Speaker 1: supposed to look like and what it's not supposed to
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  Speaker 1: look like. Now you could say sometimes they stick up
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  Speaker 1: for coaches when sometimes coaches are just bad. I'm in agreement,
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  Speaker 1: Like there are probably people around the league like Kevin Petula.
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  Speaker 1: It's not all his fault, but yeah, I would have
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  Speaker 1: fired him too, you know, I'm not I'm not saying
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles were wrong there, but also just on individual
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  Speaker 1: plays you just watch, like what is going on? I
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  Speaker 1: do think that's fair. And one key thing gets back
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  Speaker 1: to like he will not run and that's like a
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: skill he has that makes him a really really good player.
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  Speaker 1: And part of that skill running skill. I think Lamar
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  Speaker 1: has this too. Lamar's faster in Jalen or used to be.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, we'll find out how fast
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  Speaker 1: Lamar still is. I think it's high high end speeds.
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  Speaker 1: No longer quite the same when he was like a rookie.
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  Speaker 1: But Jalen's really good at like avoiding hits. It's not
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  Speaker 1: like he's this isn't Jade Daniels running around or Jackson
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  Speaker 1: Dart like those kids are natural, like getting down, getting
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  Speaker 1: out of bounds. It's like a legitimate skill, a high
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: end skill, like an elite NFL skill. She was like,
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: I'm not doing it. Nope, the Russell got like that
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  Speaker 1: pod quarterback. I'm Peyton Manning. It's like, bro, you're not
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  Speaker 1: and there's nothing wrong with it, you know. It's like,
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: can we just do what we need to do to win?
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  Speaker 1: But we'll see if that changes this year again. I'm
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: no hater. I respect the shit out of the guy.
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  Speaker 1: Serious as hell, works hard, you know, don't just like
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: to complete a few more passes. That's all. Audios have
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  Speaker 1: a great weekend. Talk to you soon. The volume