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Slender Man Stabber Follow up, Italy Recognizes "Femicide" | HBR News 529 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: This is HBr News number five twenty nine. Slender Man
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  Speaker 1: Stabber follow up Italy recognizes femicide where we discuss the
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  Speaker 1: news of the week and give it the Badger treatment.
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  Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome back to Honey Badger Radio. I
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  Speaker 1: the comments section. On this week's show, we're going to
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  Speaker 1: be doing a little bit of a follow up on
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  Speaker 1: the slender Man stabbing. You guys might remember that, you
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  Speaker 1: might not. It's it was kind of a weird one
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  Speaker 1: so and there's actually some more weirdness that's come out
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  Speaker 1: of that. There was a recent National Guard shooting. Not
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  Speaker 1: the National Guard was shot at, not committing the shoot.
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  Speaker 1: The shooting in our nation's capital DC. Italy made some
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  Speaker 1: changes to its laws to basically like make women the
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  Speaker 1: biggest victims of everything again and more so, stick around,
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  Speaker 1: right here, I have this article from the Times, which
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  Speaker 1: I think is just the New York Times, but it's
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  Speaker 1: because it's not just New York, it's the world now.
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  Speaker 1: It's Globo Globo homo stuff. They have this article called
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  Speaker 1: men are in Trouble. So you know, we have an
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  Speaker 1: admission that men are in crisis of some of some kind.
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  Speaker 1: There are problems, but whose fault is it? Like? Who's fault? Really? Like?
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  Speaker 1: Not that you know, because some people just want to
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  Speaker 1: get the problems addressed. Some people want to talk about
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  Speaker 1: whose fault it is. So I don't know where they're
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  Speaker 1: Now let us get into today's stories, all right. So
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  Speaker 1: this one was brought to me by Mike J. Well.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I picked the story out, but he is
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  Speaker 1: the one who did the write up for it, and
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  Speaker 1: I think it's worth pointing out because he did have
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of an add on to this story
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  Speaker 1: that he says a lot of people did not talk
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  Speaker 1: about in the media. So, first of all, after a
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  Speaker 1: short manhunt, Morgan Geyser has been arrested and her extradition
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  Speaker 1: back to Wisconsin is underway. Geyser, as some may remember,
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  Speaker 1: was one half of two slender Man stabbers who attempted
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  Speaker 1: to kill a fellow female classmate in order to appease
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  Speaker 1: the fictional horror monster man that originated from a creepypasta
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  Speaker 1: on the website Something Awful. Geyser, I think her name
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  Speaker 1: is Guyser g e y s e R. It could
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  Speaker 1: be Gayser, but I'm gonna go with Geyser or Gozer.
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  Speaker 1: They're all bad, really when you think about it, the
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  Speaker 1: more Geezer Gayzer.
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  Speaker 2: It's probably pronounced geyser. That's at least that's where there
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  Speaker 2: are geysers here in Ohio. Not obviously not the land type,
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  Speaker 2: but that's actually worked first.
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  Speaker 1: Like a Pokemon. It's not a land type. It's more
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  Speaker 1: like a water type. Okay, Geyser, the more involved, Wait.
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  Speaker 3: Till you hear the name of the other person of interest.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Right. Guyser, the more involved of the two girls
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  Speaker 1: in the crime, was given an initial sentence of forty
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  Speaker 1: years in a mental institution, but was granted conditional release
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  Speaker 1: earlier this year and was staying at a group home
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  Speaker 1: while being made to wear a court mandated ankle monitor.
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  Speaker 1: It was during this time at the group home that
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  Speaker 1: Guyser began a friendship with Chad Mecca.
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  Speaker 3: That's not a name, the Virgin Jerusalem and the Chad Mecca.
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  Speaker 1: It's literally it's literally spelled that way of Chad Chad Mecca,
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  Speaker 1: all right. So anyway, Mecca is nearly twice Guyser's age
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  Speaker 1: at forty three years old, and calls himself Charlie. Let's see,
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  Speaker 1: this is Chad Mecca, right, So yeah, a girlfriend, I
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  Speaker 1: guess it. Calls himself Charlie, identifying as a male to
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  Speaker 1: female transgender. Mecca claims the two of them met at
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  Speaker 1: church and formed a deep bond. What kind of church
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  Speaker 1: was that, I don't know. Guys Are allegedly confided in
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  Speaker 1: Mecca her desire to escape due to her fears of
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  Speaker 1: the group home not allowed Mecca to visit her. Mecca
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  Speaker 1: also believed that the group home was mistreating her. Eventually,
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  Speaker 1: Mecca was denied visitation with Geyser, but he continued meeting
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  Speaker 1: her in secret, climbing to her second story window to
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  Speaker 1: do so. Mecca alleges that Geyser became emotionally distraught after
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  Speaker 1: he was forbidden from visiting her, claiming she said the
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  Speaker 1: following quote, guys are sobbed. She's like, they'll take away
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  Speaker 1: our visitation. Charlie, Please, you're my best friend, and you
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  Speaker 1: know that before you showed up, I was ready to
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  Speaker 1: drink bleach and just all this stuff and think of
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  Speaker 1: it and think of it. She already made it clear
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  Speaker 1: I didn't go whether or not she was still going,
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  Speaker 1: and she was not going back to jail, and I
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  Speaker 1: know what that means. End quote. Shortly after, Mecca helped
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  Speaker 1: Geyser cut her ankle monitor and escape the group home,
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  Speaker 1: she was gone for over twelve hours before the home
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  Speaker 1: notice and alerted the police. They were ultimately found and
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  Speaker 1: arrested a few days later. Roughly one hundred and seventy
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  Speaker 1: miles from the group home, just a few dozen miles
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  Speaker 1: south of Chicago. The two boarded a bus but eventually
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  Speaker 1: continued to flee on foot. Soon after, Geyser injured her
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  Speaker 1: foot and the two attempted to camp out around a
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  Speaker 1: truck stop, but were contacted by the police for loitering
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  Speaker 1: after being evasive and you guys thought loitering as a
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  Speaker 1: silly crime to put to prosecute. After being evasive when
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  Speaker 1: asked for her name, Guyser eventually told the police everything
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  Speaker 1: and both her and Mecca were arrested. Mecca was booked
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  Speaker 1: on criminal trespaths and obstruction, but was released in the morning. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 1: Geyser has waived her extradition trial and is set to
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  Speaker 1: be returned to Wisconsin.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's It's like Mohammed in the Mountain, isn't it.
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  Speaker 3: If the Giza won't go to Mecca, then Mecca must
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  Speaker 3: go to the Giza.
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  Speaker 2: You're gonna say, out of the way because.
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  Speaker 3: I have a lot, Okay, go ahead, but yeah, this
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  Speaker 3: is already a Netflix series in the making. It is
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  Speaker 3: already in the works, you know it is. It's got everything.
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  Speaker 3: A mentally ill, poor little white girl who didn't do nothing,
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  Speaker 3: and a looney truon groomer who didn't do nothing, falling
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  Speaker 3: into a semi demonstratial non binary relationship and going on
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  Speaker 3: the lamb to escape from the evil patriarchy and getting
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  Speaker 3: into some wacky hijinks with it.
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  Speaker 1: It's a modern day Felman Louise.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and yet they're going to get into wacky hijaks
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  Speaker 3: where they kill a bunch of evil white cisgendered men.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, they probably didn't in real life, but it's Netflix.
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  Speaker 3: Historical accuracy is not exactly a priority. They'll give us
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  Speaker 3: whatever white liberal college educated women want to see, and
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  Speaker 3: what white liberal college educated women want to see is
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  Speaker 3: white men getting erased and replaced and destroyed. Normally, they
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  Speaker 3: do it by replacing male characters with a pretty young
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  Speaker 3: girls and we've hardened troons. But this time they don't
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  Speaker 3: even have to those are already the main characters. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: obviously they'll have to make Morgan Geezer black. That goes
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  Speaker 3: without saying. And they'll have to make Chad mecher Well
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  Speaker 3: a Muslim. That's a trick they can't possibly miss. It's
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  Speaker 3: staring them right in the face. Do you reckon they'll
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  Speaker 3: get away with that, making making the trun Muslim. It's
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  Speaker 3: making the white, liberal, college educated girls weak at the
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  Speaker 3: knee just thinking about it. But I'm not sure how
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  Speaker 3: the Muslims would react. Is that the kind of representation
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  Speaker 3: they're looking for. It's okay, it's not like he became
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  Speaker 3: a trap to rebel against Islam. We all know Islam
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  Speaker 3: is perfectly tolerant when it comes to these things. It's
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  Speaker 3: not like he has to escape. He's escaping the evil
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  Speaker 3: white patriarchy and he's abducting a young white girl along
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  Speaker 3: the way. Oh yeah, that might, that might, that might
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  Speaker 3: hit a little too close to home. Not because Muslims
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  Speaker 3: do that. They absolutely not, But there's this rumor, this vicious,
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  Speaker 3: unfounded rumor going around that they do do that. Hey,
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  Speaker 3: this is a perfect opportunity to tell a deep, compassionate
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  Speaker 3: story that debunks these harmful stereotypes. Just because he's a
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  Speaker 3: Muslim in this remake doesn't necessarily mean he was grooming
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  Speaker 3: this young lady. And just because he's a trap doesn't
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  Speaker 3: mean he was grooming this young lady. What just highlight
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  Speaker 3: how innocent and wholesome it is for a middle aged
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  Speaker 3: trap to traffic a criminal girl across the country for
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  Speaker 3: no reason other than they're perfectly normal, perfectly platonic relationship.
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  Speaker 3: It's a perfect opportunity to show these evils, dis gendered
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  Speaker 3: white men that this sort of thing doesn't happen all
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  Speaker 3: the time, and when it does, there's always a reasonable
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  Speaker 3: explanation for it. They're just friends, you know, They're just friends,
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  Speaker 3: travel across the country to get away from it all
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  Speaker 3: and occasionally murdering people because you know, you've got to
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  Speaker 3: break a few eggs, like Buddy and Clyde, like as
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  Speaker 3: you said, like the Thelmina Luise, like Lee, Low and Stitch,
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  Speaker 3: but SpongeBob and Patrick, like Burton, Ernie fun, nice, glove, youth, beautiful.
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  Speaker 3: I'm all for it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh boy, I'm not even sure where to start here.
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  Speaker 2: Like this is this is this is one of those uh,
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  Speaker 2: this keeps on giving, all right, this is going to
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  Speaker 2: turn into a female Christian. And yes, I just denied
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  Speaker 2: Chris Chian's chosen gender because I think he was manipulated
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  Speaker 2: into that by trolls. So let's start with the fact.
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  Speaker 4: That I'm speaking in a somewhat professional capacity with regard
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  Speaker 4: to group homes because I don't. I don't work in
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  Speaker 4: one all the time that has a large group, but
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  Speaker 4: I work with intellectually disabled adults.
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  Speaker 2: And while there's a difference, significant difference in fact, between
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  Speaker 2: intellectual disability and mental health conditions and how they manifest,
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  Speaker 2: there's often a lot of overlap in the disabilities world.
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  Speaker 2: Physical disabilities, mental health conditions, and mental difficulties like intellectual disabilities,
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  Speaker 2: often manifest in the same person after birth, injuries occur
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  Speaker 2: and things like that, or due to genetics, or due
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  Speaker 2: to bad upbringing, or a combination thereof, and I think
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  Speaker 2: in this case there might be more than just mental
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  Speaker 2: health condition there. Upbringing is a major part of this.
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  Speaker 2: Main character syndrome is something that I think a rather
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  Speaker 2: large number of young American females and maybe young European
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  Speaker 2: females as well, go through. In fact, I think, and
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  Speaker 2: I've seen it referred to an anime too, but not
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  Speaker 2: as main character syndrome, as like eighth grader syndrome, which
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  Speaker 2: basically you hit an age where you have to make
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  Speaker 2: the decision that playing pretend all the time and pretending
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  Speaker 2: your pretend that you're playing all the time is something
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  Speaker 2: real and tangible and solid that if you do things
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  Speaker 2: in the real world, guided by it, and with the
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  Speaker 2: intent for them to go the way that your fantasy
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  Speaker 2: says they're going to go that somehow they will like
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  Speaker 2: that hits at about twelve to fourteen years in Girls
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  Speaker 2: and Where Boys, you know, they get smacked in the
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  Speaker 2: face with reality. No, you are not conan a barbarian. No,
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  Speaker 2: you are not a real fireman, real police officer, real soldier,
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  Speaker 2: real whatever insert superhero fantasy character, a job that grown
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  Speaker 2: ups do here, and you can't just run around doing
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  Speaker 2: stuff like that. I think my brother was younger than that.
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  Speaker 2: I would have been twelve, so he would have been
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  Speaker 2: ten when we got to go see Ronald Reagan speak
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  Speaker 2: at the train depot in Lima and Is because he
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  Speaker 2: was coming through in a train and he spoke from
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  Speaker 2: the train and then he left on the training, never
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  Speaker 2: got off the train, so that's where the speech was
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  Speaker 2: done because that's that's where he wasn't he wasn't going
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  Speaker 2: into the community, which sometimes he did, because there was
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  Speaker 2: a tank plant there. There is I think still a
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  Speaker 2: tank plant there. I think Trump reopened it. But in
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  Speaker 2: any case, you rather wanted to play secret serviceman, and
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  Speaker 2: he really was very adamant that he wanted to bring
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  Speaker 2: his his you know, walkie talkies and his toy guns
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  Speaker 2: and his ten year old kid, you know, and Mom
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  Speaker 2: had to explain to him that you cannot even carry
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  Speaker 2: a pretend gun anywhere near the President of the United
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  Speaker 2: States anywhere that Secret Service can see you, because then
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  Speaker 2: they might have to pay attention to you instead of
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  Speaker 2: somebody who might be dangerous. And this, this is a president,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, that somebody did shoot at, although I
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  Speaker 2: think at that point he hadn't hadn't been shot at yet.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, given and my brother was disappointed. Little
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  Speaker 2: boys like to play their games, They're going to be disappointed.
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  Speaker 2: But he had been raised as a boy to understand
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  Speaker 2: that just because you're disappointed doesn't mean that you have
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  Speaker 2: a right to do the thing you wanted to do
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  Speaker 2: and be accommodated, right. And I was raised the same way,
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  Speaker 2: not because of any boy girl thing, but because that's
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  Speaker 2: just the way my family is. You get over it,
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  Speaker 2: You learn that not everything goes the way you want
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  Speaker 2: it to. Not everything that you think is going to
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  Speaker 2: be fun is something that you get to do, and
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  Speaker 2: not every pretend game that you play is something that
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  Speaker 2: you can just immerse yourself in all the time and
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  Speaker 2: never leave. In my family, I don't think we had
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  Speaker 2: a single kid who had a pretend friend for like
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  Speaker 2: more than five minutes, you know. And not condemning families
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  Speaker 2: that encourage imagination in their kids, but there's a limit
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  Speaker 2: and the development of this type of mental illness, this
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  Speaker 2: main character syndrome, eighth grader syndrome, whatever you want to
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  Speaker 2: call it, these delusional syndromes where the individual thinks something
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  Speaker 2: pretend is real to the degree that they act on it.
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  Speaker 2: The behavior doesn't happen in a vacuum. You know, that
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  Speaker 2: they're at home with mom and dad or just mom,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't remember in this case whether there was
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  Speaker 2: mom and dad or just mom, but they've got people
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  Speaker 2: around them that they have to either hide the behavior
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  Speaker 2: from or that those people have to tolerate the behavior,
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  Speaker 2: and both indicate different problems. If you can behave this
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  Speaker 2: way this much and nobody knows it, that's a problem.
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  Speaker 2: But if you can behave this way this much and
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  Speaker 2: your parents are just like, oh, okay, well that's her imagination,
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  Speaker 2: and you know she's just running with it, big deal,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Okay, Both of those are bad. Right. So
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  Speaker 2: this individual is in this setting and that was a
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  Speaker 2: parental failure. That was the first failure that this girl experienced,
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  Speaker 2: this woman experience, and that was during her childhood.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: So she goes to court, she gets that identified that
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  Speaker 2: this is due to mental health conditions, that she needs
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  Speaker 2: to not just be locked up, but be locked up
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  Speaker 2: somewhere where she has to go through therapy and start
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  Speaker 2: to learn to differentiate between fantasy and reality, start to
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  Speaker 2: treat the symptoms of her mental health condition and cooperate
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  Speaker 2: with that. And when she comes out of there, she's
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  Speaker 2: in what a lot of people think of as a
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  Speaker 2: half way house, but a group home, four people with
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  Speaker 2: her weaknesses. Right. Your job as a worker in a
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  Speaker 2: home like that is to monitor the welfare and the condition,
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  Speaker 2: the mental and physical condition of the individual in the home.
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  Speaker 2: And there are things that we have to know about
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  Speaker 2: our residents. In my end of that, where I'm working
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  Speaker 2: with people whose primary condition is intellectual disability, and they
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  Speaker 2: may have psychological disabilities as secondary conditions, they may have
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  Speaker 2: physical disabilities as secondary conditions, but their primary condition, their
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  Speaker 2: primary reason for being with my companies is intellectual disability. Right.
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  Speaker 2: One of the things that One of the characteristics that
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  Speaker 2: we learn about a person under our care is whether
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  Speaker 2: or not they are a flight risk, a fright. A
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  Speaker 2: flight risk is somebody who might wander off. It doesn't
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  Speaker 2: even mean run away. It just means somebody who might
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  Speaker 2: leave and place themselves in an a loane situation or
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  Speaker 2: a without support situation that they are not supposed to
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  Speaker 2: be in. Some people are in such a condition that
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  Speaker 2: under their care plan they have no alone time aside
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  Speaker 2: from you maybe stepping out of the bathroom, so they
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  Speaker 2: have privacy when they're doing their business and you not
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  Speaker 2: being in the same room with them when they're sleeping.
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  Speaker 2: But aside from that, they are under You know, there
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  Speaker 2: are people that are under complete constant care and if
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  Speaker 2: they were to, for instance, just open the door and
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  Speaker 2: go outside, that might be enough to classify them as
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  Speaker 2: a flight risk if they might do that without asking
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  Speaker 2: or talking to someone and asking, hey, come with me.
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  Speaker 2: So the people that worked with this scal should have
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: had a similar designation on her like she should have.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Generally speaking, she'd have an individual service plan similar to
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: an individual education plan in a school system. They write
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: down what the characteristics of the individual are, what the
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: needs are, for treatment, what the needs are for support,
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: say a direct support professional that works with people with
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: mental health conditions or intellectually disabled adults. What supports that
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: individual needs in order to be safe, healthy, and have
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: a day that doesn't go wrong every day, And and
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: that's it. So, if she's managed to escape this, somebody
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: probably wasn't doing their job properly. And at the same time,
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: it's quite likely that if this individual that climbed into
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: her house to get to her was able to get
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: access to her repeatedly, somebody wasn't doing their job. I
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: would know if somebody came in and interacted with one
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: of my clients, because I would be right there. They'd
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: have to go right past me to get to them.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: And similarly, if I was working with someone like her,
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: knowing her history, just the history that's been reported in
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: the news, you know, there's a level of vigilance that
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: you're supposed to have. Now, why am I talking about
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: all this because that job is primarily done by women.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: And I've noticed, like there's a lot of things that
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: happen in the news that occur with people with intellectual
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: disabilities or mental health conditions that my company would go
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: ballistic if one of us let that happen. We had
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: one employee not long ago get into trouble, and the
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: entire company has made like massive changes and there's been
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: a bunch of improvements, and we've all had to learn
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: new things and answer for things just like changes and
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: so on. Not something I can get deeply into, but essentially,
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: when something even something small, were to happen, but when
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: something big happens, they want to make sure it never
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: happens again, because their whole goal in doing a job
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: like this and having a company that does a job
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: like this, or being a provider for the state in
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: a job like this, is to prevent things like this
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: from happening. And so I hope that there's a similar
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: reckoning happening in the company that serves the individuals at
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: this woman's group home. And the other aspect of this
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: is there is a reason that I'm talking about this is,
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: like I said, there's a dignificant difference between how boys
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: are treated when they try to make their real life
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: all about their fantasies at that age, versus how girls
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: are treated. And it's boys are it's recognized that boys
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: should grow up at that point. It isn't always recognized
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: that girls need to grow up at that point, and
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: so that kind of behavior is more tolerated. People think
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: it's cute and it's not, and people people act like
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: it's harmless, and clearly it's not, considering that she and
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: the gal she was engaging in the behavior with tried
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: to kill someone, and that and then the the last
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: bit of this, obviously is the the trune that that
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: is pursuing her, the trune that is preying on her,
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: someone that is clearly not a real trends individual but
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: a woke, ideal, ideological nutbag who has identified being trands
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: as something that you can, you know, you can use
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: as a shield against all forms of criticism. Identified that
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: because being female gets treated as a shield that you
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: can use against all forms of criticism until you try
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: to kill somebody, or until you kidnap and run away
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: with somebody who has a mental health condition, and therefore
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: you're suddenly able to be recognized as dangerous because there
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: were consequences that other people can't ignore. I think that
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: that kind of behavior that I will disguise myself as
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: a transwoman so that I can have access to potential
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: victims that behavior will end the day that it becomes
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: a non issue to criticize behavior, even if somebody is female,
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: even if somebody identifies as female, even if somebody is
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: in a minority group, even if that minority group is tiny,
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: and even if that minority group has historical victimhood from
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: having been discriminated against and wrongly treated as pre editors
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: when they weren't right. We still have to be able
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: to recognize that it is predatory for someone to do
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: something like that, no matter who they are, no matter
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: what demographic they came from, no matter what some other
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: people in the past did to some other people in
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: the past, This person standing before you right now did
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: something harmful to another person. That's the factor that you
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: should be addressing. And it does not matter who they are,
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: It does not matter what excuses they make for it.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: If they did it on purpose, and they knew, because
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: when you sneak into somebody's house, that is a clear
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: indicator that you know what you're doing is wrong. You
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: don't have to sneak around to do something that is okay.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: So they knew that it was unacceptable, they knew that
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: it was wrong, They knew right he knew that he
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: was kidnapping a mentally ill woman and running off with her.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: That's something that we should be able to criticize without
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: caring whether he identifies publicly as female, calls himself, trans
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: dyes his hair green, wears a dress, and plays victim.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: When you start criticizing the behavior, I don't care. I
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: don't care who you are. Don't commit crimes, don't victimize somebody.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: And similarly, this girl, I don't care who you are.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Being female doesn't give you the excuse to try to
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: kill your friend, doesn't give you the excuse to live
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: in a fantasy world. And parents shouldn't be allowing their
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: children to go down that rabbit hole. I mean, for
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: fuck's sake. Slenderman started out as a joke. It was
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: a gag on the internet. Like it wasn't just a
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: creepy pasta before it was a creepy pasta, it was.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: It was a joke, item made in a photoshop battle.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: I don't even know how to stress how insane it
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: is to create a reality. To turn that into your
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: own personal psychological tulpa and do what she did. Right,
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: if your parents are allowing you to do stuff like that,
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: if you're in your twenties and you think you know
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: you're you're secretly from another universe or being pursued by
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: some creepy pasta monster, like if you think the Siren
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Thing is after you, or or you know you know
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: that there's a skin walker outside of your house in
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: New Jersey. Get help. Your parents are not doing you
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: any favors by allowing that, and you should stop it.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: You should put a stop to it. Anybody that's associated
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: with you that is feeding into it, you should stop
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: hanging out with those people because you're you're you're being harmed,
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: and you're harming yourself and you're gonna end up doing
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: something stupid like this. The final thing that I will
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: say about this is I just the thing that I
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: really just cannot get over. It's just the fact that
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: all of this people talking about this on the internet
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: are probably going to ignore most of the factors that
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: I just brought up, and it is going to be
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: fodder for I mean, this is this is this girl
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: is going to be treated like a low cow. The
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: individual who took her is going to be treated like
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: a lowld cow. And if there's a reckoning in whatever
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: organization runs the home that she escaped from Nobody will
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: know about it, and probably other homes and other organizations
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: won't even have a response. They won't do any self examination,
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: they won't have any concern that, gosh, could this happen
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: to us, right, and they won't change anything because if
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: companies were doing that, the Christian incidents would have led
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: to some examination that might have prevented this from happening. So,
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: like sadly, my bottom line on this is, don't let
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: teenage girls be kids longer than you let teenage boys
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: be kids, because you end up with adult women who
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: are kids. They can be dangerous, and don't let somebody's
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: demographic association with some sort of historical victimhood be a
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: shield against criticism for behavior that is dangerous, destructive, and
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: potentially criminal, and you won't have problems like this.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't wait for the Netflix adaptation of this,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: starring Cynthia Rivo and Ariana Grande, So I mean that's
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: probably gonna win all the awards. I got a super
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: chow from Richard Pierre who gives us five dollars and says,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: there was that one after school special Mazes and Monsters
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: that touched on something like this. It also caused a
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: panic about role playing games. Was that after School was
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: like a movie. Yeah, tom ye yeah yeah.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: So I had something to say about that too, all right,
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: So the Monsters claim to be based on a true story,
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: it wasn't. And I did a research paper on this
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: because of my parents' response to that movie. And also
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: there was a pamphlet.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: It was kind of.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: In the vein of chick publications, but it wasn't in
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: the style of chick publications that the title of it
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: was something like parents, don't let your kids play Dungeons
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: and Dragons or something like that, and it both of
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: these things failed to differentiate between an individual who sits
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: in a room with other friends and rolls dice and
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: uses rule books and plays out a story and then
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: goes home and is not still stuck in the story
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: and doesn't obsessively do that when they're supposed to be
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: doing other things like homework or going to their job
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: or taking a shower, you know, and people who never
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: never stop fantasizing. What I learned when I did my
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: research on this to prove to my parents that it
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: was not dangerous to me to play this game was
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: that there have been incidents where bad things have happened,
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: and people have associated the bad things with dungeons and dragons,
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: But in every instance there was another factor. One kid
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: committed suicide. He had surrounded himself with elements of darkness,
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: like he was all into symbols of Satanism and everything,
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: and he had made false associations between types of music
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: and Satanism and the games he was playing in Satanism.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: He was using drugs, and he had a mental health
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: condition that often blurs the lines between fantasy and reality
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: and in fact can actually make your perceptions difficult for
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: your brain to analyze. And he committed suicide. And there
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: were some indications that he thought a monster was after him, right,
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: but it wasn't a D and D monster, And there
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: were not actual indications that this was set off by
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: this game or that the game contributed in any way.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: When you know, there were serious indications that the mental
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: illness did, and that the drugs he was using exacerbated
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: the problem, and that he didn't get any help from
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: anybody in pulling himself out of that, were getting treatment
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: to prevent that, and and so he ended up as
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: a statistic a lot of suicide in that particular mental
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: health condition. There were several other cases where things occurred,
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: crimes occurred, injuries occurred, uh, there were there were there
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: was violence, and there were failures in failures to launch
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: and things like that that in each instance, the individual
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: had a drug problem or a reality bending mental health
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: condition that wasn't properly being handled and was the individual
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: was not properly being supervised by their parents, and the
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: game was marginal in terms of their life, like, it
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: wasn't the main thing they were doing. It wasn't the
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: main thing related to the cause of the issue, the
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: outcome that they had. Each time parents were using let's
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: blame this game as a means of avoiding finding out, gosh,
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: where did we fail our kid? And in most of
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: those cases the individual was male. So all of the
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: history of Dungeons and Dragons causes people to go crazy
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: and forget that they're not in the middle of a
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: fantasy role playing game all the time, and so no,
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: it's bullshit. Just like television doesn't cause kids to become violent,
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: violence on television doesn't cause kids to become violent, violence
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: in video games doesn't cause kids to become violent. Violence
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: in the home does, but violence on video games and
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: television does not. Rock and roll music and heavy man
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: music do not cause kids to become satanic. And a
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: lot of people that are associating most of this music
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: with satanism are misinterpreting a lot of stuff in the music,
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: not just a little bit, but to the degree that
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: their their interpretation is one hundred and eighty degrees wrong
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: from the original meaning of the music they're interpreting. So
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: there's a ton of this, and it's always been this way.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: Parents don't like to admit when they've made a mistake.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: They didn't do something for their child that they should
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: have done and the child had a consequence that they
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: shouldn't have had to face. Or they did something thinking
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: it was the best thing they could do for their
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: child and the child had an adverse consequence from the
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: thing that mom and dad did, So they blame anything
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: and everything other then I should have gotten my kid help,
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: or I should not have trusted the doctor that only
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: gave my child pills and didn't try any type of
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: behavioral modification therapy. I believe the first thing I heard
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: and had part of my child's flesh amputated, thinking that
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: it would prevent something that the child is still vulnerable
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: to but now thinks he's not and is going to
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: take higher risks, and you know, and so on, and
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: as a result, again you end up with situations like
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: this like we're discussing here, and at no point will
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: anybody turn around and suggest that perhaps parents should have
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: been more involved, and maybe they weren't as involved as
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: they should have been. Maybe they weren't as knowledgeable as
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: they should have been. You know, maybe they weren't as
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: hard on the kid they should have been.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: All Right, thank you for those thoughts. I also got
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: a super child from Meredith G who gives us five
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: dollars and says HBr News number five twenty nine, Honey,
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: for the badgress, Thank you, Meredith, really appreciate it. Okay,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: let's get into the next story. But let us know
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: what you guys think about this one in the comments. Yes,
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: these things get pretty wild, all right, ahem, we got
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: to talk about this. So on November twenty six, just
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: blocks from the White House in downtown Washington, d C,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: twenty nine year old Afghan national raw and I apologize
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: if I butchered this pronunciation. Ramanula loachan Wal allegedly carried
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: out no, he did an ambush style shooting targeting two
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: uniformed members of the West Virginia National Guard. Wall, who
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: had driven thousands of miles cross country from his home
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: in Bellingham, Washington. That's Washington State, so Washington State to Washington, DC,
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: opened fire around two point fifteen PM, killing twenty year
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: old Sarah Beckstrom with multiple gunshot wounds and critically injuring
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: twenty four year old Andrew Woolf, who was shot several times.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: One of the guardsmen returned fire, striking Lock Andwall in
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: the process. The attack unfolded on the eve of Thanksgiving,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: prompting an immediate response from the Secret Service, Metropolitan Police,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: and FBI, who secured the scene amid heightened security in
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: the nation's capital. Lock Andwall, a married father of five
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: who had resettled in the US in twenty twenty one
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: through Operation Allies Welcome. Yes, that Allies Welcome operation that
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: basically allowed a bunch of foreign nationals in after serving
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: over a decade in a CIA back It's Afghan Special
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: Forces zero Unit hunting Taliban commanders have been apparently or
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: at least allegedly grappling with severe mental health challenges since arriving.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: Despite extensive vetting during his military service and a successful
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: asylum application granted in twenty twenty five, he struggled with
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: cultural isolation, poor English skills, PTSD, and manic episodes, often
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: isolating himself for weeks in dark rooms or embarking on
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: erratic cross country drives while unable to maintain employment. Case
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: workers noted his deepening crisis and lack of ongoing refugee support.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: Though authorities have not confirmed any specific motive and are
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: investigating potential radicalization ties, Lackawall remains hospitalized and faces charges
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: including first degree murder. It's also worth pointing out he
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: did shout Allahu akbar as he was shooting at the
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: natural guardsman. It proves nothing, Yeah, purely just look, maybe
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: I did hear that, Maybe it was something else, but
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: that's that's what they're saying, The bigots are saying that.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: So anyway, so this is a I don't know if
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: the other guy's recovered yet. He's in a critical condition,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: I believe, so I don't know if he's expected to
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: pull through. But the other one was in fact killed.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: So anyway, I leave you the guys.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: The floor or what we've what we've learned from this,
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: among other things, is that war is not always simply
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: a case of good versus evil. It's not even a
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: case of one side versus another. It's it's it's a polygon,
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: it's a do decahedron, it's a Rubik's cube of sides.
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: What we have here is a man who fought against
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: the Taliban, and so it's generally assumed that he's on
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: our side. But yeah, no, welcome to your rude awakening.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: The enemy of your enemy is not necessarily your friend.
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: Nor is the enemy of the enemy of your enemy
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: necessary necessarily your enemy, but they probably are. You should
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: probably assume by default that any given Afghanistani is probably
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: your enemy in potential, if nothing else. In fact, you
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: should probably consider the average world citizen as your enemy,
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: just to be safe. That doesn't mean you should shoot them.
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: It just means you probably shouldn't give them a gun
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: lest they shoot you. Can we perhaps float the notion
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: that the Taliban is what we call right wing, we
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: would have to break down what that means. It doesn't
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: mean white supremacist Christian contrary to Papa belief. Far from
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: it in the case of the Taliban, But they do
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: seem to be conservative along their own lines. They're in
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: favor of modesty even to a fault, and patriotism patriotism
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: even to a fault, and religious adherents even to a fault.
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: So someone who fights against the Taliban is not necessarily
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: on the side of the West. They might just be
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: on the side of what we call the left wing.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: They want immodesty and global equality and religious nullification even
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: to a fault in the case of all of the above.
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: So if you take them out of Afghanistan and put
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: them in the United States, what do you suppose they
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: would do? They would look around them and think, Okay,
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: here I am doing what I do. What is the
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: American equivalent of the Taliban that I was fighting against?
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: Just now, Aha, I see you too have a right wing.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: You have.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: Police forces that are here to conserve some kind of
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: status quo. Let me just turn on the TV for
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: a second. Aha. According to CNN and CBS and ABC
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: and fucking NBC, the ordinary American people in child of
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: these networks also feel like their authorities are overly conservative
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: to a fault. As a matter of fact, they feel
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: oppressed by nationalism and religiosity and modesty. Well, I know
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: what I must do. They must have brought me here
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: for a reason, after all, so you see what I mean.
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: As reductive as this left slash right description may be,
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: it doesn't matter which afghanis you're bringing into the country.
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: Their right wing will hate your country because it's not
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: their country, and their left wing will hate your country
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: because it's a country. It's just it's in their nature
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: to bring down the authorities of whatever country they happen
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: to be occupying. And that I can understand. I get
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: where they're coming from. I have something of a problem
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: with authority myself. But the thing about lefties is they
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: have no concept of left wing authorities. They assume that
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: whoever's in charge must be right wing, no matter how
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: left wing they in fact are. So when they turn
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: on the TV and they listen to these alphabet networks
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: brazenly inciting violence against the police and the president, they think, oh, man,
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: look at these brave freedom fighters on the TV pushing
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: back against the evil Empire. I should join them in
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: their struggle. It never occurs to them that what they're
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: watching on that TV is the evil Empire doing whatever
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: it can to propagandize everyone against the American people and
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: against their interests. And you can see why it's so confusing.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: Surely the people in power, the people in charge of
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: the media, don't hate their own countrymen. Surely the mass
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: media wouldn't be biased against the people they're supposed to be.
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: So that doesn't make any sense. No, it doesn't, And
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: it doesn't happen in the East, or in the Middle East,
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: or in Africa, at least not until they get hit
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: by the communism. Most countries, by default and their governments
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: and their media tend to be preoccupied with the interests
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: of their own country and their own people. It's mostly
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: in the West where these communication networks are under the
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: stranglehold of pathological ecophobes whose motors operanda is to undermine
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: and demoralize their own country and its people. Yes, folks,
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: I am once again blaming the media for everything. We're
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: not quite sure what this fella's motives were, But in
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: the meantime we can notice the media's response to this tragedy.
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: They didn't self reflect, they didn't question their own motives.
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: They didn't think, hmm, maybe this defund the police narrative
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: of ours isn't helping. Maybe our constant lenience in favor
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: of foreign criminals might be contributing to the rise in
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: crimes committed by foreign criminals. No, none of that. It
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: was just this is Trump's fault. If the evil Orange
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: Man hadn't put those police officers there in the first place,
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: they wouldn't have been shot. Yeah, they didn't think for
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: a moment. If Biden hadn't brought this criminal into the
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: country in the first place, he wouldn't have shot those
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: police officers. No, it's not the fault of the foreign criminals.
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: It's the fault of whoever is trying to protect the
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: general public from the criminals. Well, what it bis down
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: to is, it's not the fault of the Democrats ever,
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: It's the fault of the Republicans forever and always. And
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: it's because the Republicans are the Party of America first
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: and the Democrats are the Party of America last. Well,
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: the Republicans are the party of Israel first and America second.
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: But that's that's still far too patriotic as far as
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: the Democrats are concerned. As far as they're concerned, it's
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: got to be America coming one hundred and ninety third
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: out of one hundred and ninety three, because that's what
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: they call progressive. I feel like I say this every week,
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: but it's true. You could deport all the Afghanis, all
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: the Somalians, or whatever you could. You could send every
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: Third worlder back to the Third World and never let
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: them back in again. But you will still continue to
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: get overrun with domestically grown, violent psychopaths trying to kill
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: your country, one citizen at a time because the media
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: is telling them to. And I don't know how to
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: fix it. I don't know how to stop the George
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: Sorosses of the world from twisting everyone's arm. I don't
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: know how you rid the education system of all these
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: psychotic communists. All I can say is turn off the TV. People,
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: tell your friends and family to turn off the TV.
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: It is a box of black magic that hates you,
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: and it absolutely will not stop ever until you are dead.
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: But you can render it powerless if you simply turn
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: it off and never again tune into those alphabet networks.
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: You don't have to throw away your TV. Just don't
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: tune into the stations. Just run your PlayStation through it
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: and have a good time. You'll find far more salvation
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: and solidarity if you tune that shit out and let
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: those UHF waves pass harmlessly through you like neutrinos. By
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: the way, I am a doctor of randomers on cameras,
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: and this is expert advice. Do with it as you will.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: So there was one specific thing that I'm gonna latch
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: onto in this story because it really stuck out to
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: me like a sore thumb, and it's funny. It sort
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: of took me back to being a little kid. One
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: of the books I read when I was in early
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: elementary school. I want to say, I think it came out.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: It might have been later than it might have been
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: later than that, so I'm thinking maybe I was in
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: junior high when I read it. But in any case,
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: this story was called Hello, my Name is Scrambled Eggs.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: Probably if you were a kid growing up during Generation
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: X era, you ran into this book or had this
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: book recommended to you, And it was about a refugee
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: kid from Vietnam after the Vietnam War being integrated into
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: this family, you know, and his community, and the high
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: jinks that ensued. They sort of used humor to humanize
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: the situation. How different the culture and circumstances he was
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: coming from, were from the culture and circumstances he was
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: going into. And one of the things that stuck with
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: me about that was the support systems needed for refugees
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: coming from hillacious situations in foreign countries with dramatically different
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: cultures from our own to stay here for their own
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: safety and then trying to assimilate themselves in at least
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: to the degree that they can be part of their
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: local communities that they're going to be in here because
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: they may be here for the rest of their lives.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: Things may never settle down in the home country. You
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: never know, right, So this one part of this paragraph.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: He struggled with cultural isolation, poor English skills, PTSD, and
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: manic episodes, often blaming himself for weeks or blaming himself,
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: isolating himself for weeks in dark rooms, or embarking on
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: erratic cross country drives while unable to maintain employment. Caseworkers
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: noted his deepening crisis and lack of ongoing refugee support. Now,
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: why after decades of having systems in place to support
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: refugees from foreign wars, do we suddenly have this lack
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: of support? What has changed during say, the last ten
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: years that would cause that, oh, that's right. The United
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: States has been flooded with illegal immigrants making false claims
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: of refugee status on top of our actual refugee immigrants
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: coming in who actually deserve and need our assistance. And
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: so now all of these systems that are in place
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: to handle the smaller number of people in the world
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: who have these issues, who have come from war torn
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: areas where they are in danger for political reasons. The
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: people they were fighting against would kill them. Maybe they
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: would be killed for their religious views, maybe they would
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: be killed for having helped the United States with something
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: like there's not a prioritization of their needs. And we
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: used to have a very narrow like we help people
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: if we created the situation in their country by going
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: in and going to war in their country. The refugees
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: that came here from Vietnam came here with soldiers coming
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: home as part of an evacuation because of what we
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: did in their country, and the refugees from Afghanistan that
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: was the same situation, right, the refugees supposed refugees. The
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: massive number of people coming up from South America claiming
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: to be refugees, most of which were not. They didn't
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: come here necessarily because the United States gave them problems
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: in their country to flee. They came here to bring
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: those problems to US, where their nations have been taken
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: over by communist leaders or socialist leaders as a result
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: of maybe manipulation by the US government, maybe not, maybe
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: manipulation in their own country by their own people. And
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: many of them came here to bring communism, not to
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: escape it, not to escape a war environment or a
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: political environment created by US interference in their country, not
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: to create, and not to fue religious prosecution or persecution,
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: but as we were told to have a better life.
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: And of course these systems weren't grown, they weren't increased.
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: In fact, they were so overwhelmed that they lost three
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: hundred thousand kids or something some unacceptable number. One is
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: an unacceptable number. This was like the kind of unacceptable
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: number that when you hear it, your jaw drops and
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: you yell, what the fuck by the Biden administration. Just
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: kids that were just misplaced in the system. We don't
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: know where they are. We don't and we have found
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: some of them now that Biden's out of office, but
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: not all of them, and we'll probably never find all
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: of them. We might find out the terrible things happen
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: to some of them, and we won't find the children
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: because they're gone. And that's the reality of it. So
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: these systems have been overtaxed, overwhelmed, and underfunded, and now
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: we're in a situation where they can't differentiate between somebody
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: they should be paying closer attention to and somebody who's
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: just having a rough time. They should have paid very
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: careful attention to this man. This man should have been
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: brought in for help and for examination for this radicalization
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: that they're concerned about now. Instead he was left to
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: do what he ended up doing, and now we're here
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: talking about the potential causes. The causes are people decided
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: that the United States should take on all of the
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: world's problems and then didn't create systems capable of doing that.
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: And now that those people are out of office, the
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: current administration is trying to hold the bag and it's
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: too heavy, and people like this guy are falling falling
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: through it. This is probably not the last time we're
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: going to see something like this, and you should be
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: prepared to recognize that you can't just blame whoever's in
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: office right now. That this is a multi administration problem.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: This goes back to Obama and probably before, although Obama
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: is the one that really started letting letting people in.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: And unfortunately, I don't think that what we have in
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: place now is prepared to prevent future incidents like this
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: just yet. So two young people died, Two young people
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: that probably signed up for service to pay for college
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: died because of this.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I thought, as the National Guard when I was
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: going to college, they were using it to help pay
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: for the tuition.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: I've had several friends in the National Guard, you know,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: during the year.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: And they were immigrants too, Yeah guys, I know.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And they didn't sign up just because they wanted
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: to be in the military. They signed up because the
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: ads basically said, primarily, you can get paid while you're
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: going to school. We will pay for your college tuition
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: and you get, you know, this much money, and in
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: some instances it can pay if you're going to a
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: community college, it can pay for your tuition and your
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: housing and everything. And then you'll come out of it
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: with skills that will help you get a job in
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: the future. And you know, so it's heavily marketed like that,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: and it has been for decades and it's not false,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: but it's it's not marketed with the other end of
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: the story. You know you're going to risk your life
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: as part of your job when you join any branch
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: of the military, even the part time branch, yea even
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: and there I think there are full timers in the
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: National Guard too, but it's still it's still considered like
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: the easiest, the least risky, and so on, out of
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: all the branches. It's like the polar opposite of the Marines.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: But I think most of us that haven't done any
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: kind of military service have to acknowledge that they are
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: still soldiers and that they are still risking their lives
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: and that they are still at risk of being targeted
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: in incidents like this. But usually you don't expect it
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: to come from people in your own country that your
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: government supposedly vetted, you know, for being here. It's supposed
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: to be.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: You know, well, you.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: Get activated and you get stationed somewhere, and then you're
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: at risk after you've had all your your training and
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: you know everybody that's around you is at the same risk,
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: and you know in the moment that you're you're at risk.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: You know as opposed to at that level of risk,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: as opposed to having it come out of nowhere like this. Yeah,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: the whole thing all around. It's a tragedy, but it
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: has to be put right at the feet of woke
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: politicians that acted like the US could just be the
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: problem solver for the entire world, and that it's it's
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: all good if we just take on it, take everybody
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: from the entire world into our country and treat them
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: all as refugees, but don't create a system capable and
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: we probably can't create a system capable of handling that
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: level and scope of refugee status.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and uh, well uh and the people who
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: voted for it, and because they were part of this too,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: And I don't know if anyone's gonna have a moment
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: of clarity with that. It's like the one thing that
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: we need is a little bit of humility and then
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: the uh, but no one is anyone gonna well, look,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: I'll leave it to you guys, because we're gonna move
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: on to the next story. We still got two more
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: things to get to. But I just want to throw
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: in there. This guy serves over a decade in a
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: CIA backed Afghan special forces zero unit C.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: I A I A being the the operative word there.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: CIA is definitely the operative acronym.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: It was.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden he was having like
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: PTSD episodes. Well, Press, I don't know, no, no, but
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: they're no, they.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: Did, they did claim the sudden thing.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're claiming that he struggled with this stuff.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but like if we're getting yeah, but who
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: are we getting this information from? Are we getting it
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: from the CIA? Because that's the thing, Like the CIA
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: have investigated themselves and they have found themselves innocent.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: If you're going to target somebody to do something bad
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: and you're going to exploit them for fodder for you know,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: like gun control or some other issue, like maybe you're
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: sure trying to support.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 5: Border immigration issue here, right, Yeah, So if if you're
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 5: going to use somebody for a syop, do you pick
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 5: somebody who is mentally healthy, stable, highly intelligent, has.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: No background issues, no stress issues, no anything like that
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: going on, or do you WHOA, this guy's got PTSD,
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: he's having manic episodes. You know, he's he's suffering from
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: extreme stress. He's having difficulty assimilating into the local culture.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: He's isolating himself in the dark and behaving strangely, he
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: can't keep a job, like maybe this might be the
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: perfect guy. Of course those issues might be am I
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: I don't think those issues are fake. I think those
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: issues are the reason that he's targeted for a syop,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: if he's If this is a siop, which is quite
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: clearly could be anytime the CIA is even remotely involved,
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: there there's a chance in the in the closer their involvement,
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: the greater the chance that this is a fucking syop. Right,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: so they had direct involvement with this guy, and and
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: that chance exists. But if you look at all other
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: news reports about individuals who have been radicalized by FBI
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: agents or CIA agents who were just trying to catch
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: them in a crime that they were totally gonna do
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: before they got radicalized by the agents, that that it's
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: it's always somebody with like schizophrenia or PTSD, bipolar disorder,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: antisocial personality disorder. It's never you know, Joshmo, ordinary person
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: mentally healthy, stable, goes to church every Sunday, hangs out
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: with a peer group that that would notice if something
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: was off, and so on, and so it has both
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: parents at home. You know, it's always somebody like this,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it's not it's not surprising at all. But again,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: you know, that's like one branch of the government, and
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: a lot of these situations you have this one branch
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: of the government doing you know, they they're not branch,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: but department CIA is an agency within a department, and
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: and that department is doing those things. But the department
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: that handles support for refugees is a different department, different agency,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: different people. They still had a chance to spot this
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: if they weren't overwhelmed by wrongful import of people who
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: aren't really refugees and labeling them refugees. They still had
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: a chance to spot this coming and do something about
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: it if if it wasn't for that overwhelming So, you know,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: both issues are a problem. You we there has to
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: be some reigning in of the CIA and the entire
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: spy end of the Defense Department where they're not attacking
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: the stability of the United States anymore. That has to
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: change so that they're not doing that anymore. But at
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: the same time, you know, the issue of overwhelming false
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: refugee status and overwhelming these other systems, these support systems,
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: that has to be a too and this situation is
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: the perfect storm of both of those.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: M All right, well, yeah, let us know what you
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: guys think about this one of the comments. It's definitely, like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, still fresh in people's minds, and if we
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  Speaker 1: learn anything, we'll probably like follow up with whatever information
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  Speaker 1: we get. But a lot of questions and I guess
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  Speaker 1: we'll see in my thoughts go out to the survivors
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  Speaker 1: of the murdered victim, and I hope the other guy recovers.
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  Speaker 1: I don't really know where his status is at right now,
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  Speaker 1: but we'll, yeah, we'll see, so we'll follow up with that.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, let's move on to the next one. All right,
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  Speaker 1: this we're gonna get a little international. We're gonna talk
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  Speaker 1: about Italy. So on November twenty fifth, coinciding with the
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  Speaker 1: International Day for the Elimination of Violence against Women. You
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  Speaker 1: think we got it bad in America, Italy, his lower
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  Speaker 1: house of Parliament, the Chamber of Deputies, unanimously approved a
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  Speaker 1: groundbreaking law that formally introduces femicide, defined as the gender
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  Speaker 1: motivated murder of a woman or girl, into the country's
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  Speaker 1: criminal code. The legislation supported across the political spectrum, including
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  Speaker 1: by Prime Minister Georgia Miloney's right wing government classifies femicide
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  Speaker 1: as a distinct aggravated form of homicide punishable by life imprisonment,
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  Speaker 1: the maximum penalty under Italian law. This move addresses a
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  Speaker 1: persistent crisis, with Italy's National Institute of Statistics reporting one
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  Speaker 1: hundred and six femicides in twenty twenty four alone, nearly
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  Speaker 1: sixty percent committed by intimate partners or ex partners. The
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  Speaker 1: laws passage was spurred by widespread outrage over high profile cases,
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  Speaker 1: notably the twenty twenty three stabbing death of a twenty
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  Speaker 1: two year old university student, Giulia ketchetin Hopefully I'm not
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  Speaker 1: butchering that I'm sure I am, by her ex boyfriend,
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  Speaker 1: which ignited nationwide protests and demands for stronger protections against
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  Speaker 1: patriarchal violence. They literally framed it as patriarchal violence. While
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  Speaker 1: hailed as a symbolic step towards eradicating gender based killings,
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  Speaker 1: allowing for better tracking, study, and prosecution of such crimes,
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  Speaker 1: Critics from the center left, opposition and women's rights advocates
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  Speaker 1: argue it falls short, so it's not good enough. Apparently,
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  Speaker 1: by focusing primarily on punishment, rather than prevention, education or
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  Speaker 1: addressing socioeconomic factors like cultural isolation and economic inequality that
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  Speaker 1: fuel domestic of views. Why don't we have some more
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  Speaker 1: communism in Italy that'll address the problem, said the leftist women.
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  Speaker 1: Despite these concerns, the unanimous vote marked a rare moment
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  Speaker 1: of bipartisan unity in Italy's polarized parliament, with Maloney describing
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  Speaker 1: it as a sign of political cohesion against the barbaric
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  Speaker 1: nature of violence against women. And this picture is of
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  Speaker 1: protesters or activists sort of in Italy celebrating or you
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  Speaker 1: know this this I guess the day, the what is it?
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  Speaker 1: The national This is in Italy, the the International Day
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  Speaker 1: International for the Elimination of Violence against Women.
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  Speaker 3: Some of you, some of you might be thinking right
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  Speaker 3: wing government, my ass, this is what Stephan Maulin you
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: called socialism in panties aka feminism. But this is where
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  Speaker 3: I regret to inform you that this problem transcends such
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: trifling matters as left versus right. A right wing government
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: is no less susceptible to this bullshit than a left
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 3: wing government, or a centrist one, or even a libertarian
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: or authoritarian one. A libertarian can liberate women while completely
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: neglecting to liberate men, and authoritarian can persecute men while
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: completely neglecting to persecute women. The entire political spectrum, in
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 3: its childish two dimensional rendering, can be and is a
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: wash with this two tier feminist dogma. That's largely why
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: I'm so fatigued with the whole thing, and I always
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: have been. While everyone's arguing about left versus right, and
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: even about liberty versus authority, we all keep getting pushed
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: down this other dimensional axis that no one is even seeing,
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 3: infantalizing women at the expense of men. Yeah, no, that's
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 3: not left or right or libertarian or authoritarian. Is this
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: all other axis? And that is what is destroying your civilization.
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  Speaker 3: Whether you are any European country, and whether you are
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 3: Russia or China, or Afghanistan or America, but especially if
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  Speaker 3: you are in Europe. I have to wonder if it's
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  Speaker 3: a coincidence that femicide became law first in Spain and
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 3: then in Italy. It's the same pattern we saw happening
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: with the political phenomenon we call fascism, that too happened
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: in Spain and then Italy. It's hard to pin down
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 3: what the fuck that shit even means anymore fascism, But
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: we can perhaps build up a picture of it if
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 3: we observe what's happening in the modern day. Shall we say,
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 3: in a fascist country, the life of someone within the
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: state is worth more than the life of someone outside
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  Speaker 3: of the state, And in a feminist country, the life
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  Speaker 3: of a woman is worth more than the life of
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  Speaker 3: a man. And that is what we're seeing all over
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: the fucking place. This isn't a recent phenomenon, of course.
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  Speaker 3: Ever since the rise of romantic chivalry, men have been
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: expected to sacrifice themselves for women, and even before that.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's a rule that tends to push on an
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  Speaker 3: open door, because by and large, men love women kind
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: of too much, if you ask me, way more than
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 3: women love men. But the politicization of romantic chivalry is
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: a relatively recent phenomenon, one that did come to pass
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: in parallel with communism, the politicization of class envy. It's
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 3: it's when it's not enough that men voluntarily sacrifice themselves
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 3: for women. It's when they are compelled to sacrifice themselves
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  Speaker 3: for women by force, And when even that is not
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  Speaker 3: good enough, we get this shit. When a man kills
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: a woman, he is treated like a mass murderer. But
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 3: when a woman kills a man, she is not even
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: charged with murder. She gets off scot free because of
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 3: temporary insanity, because of hormones, because she was afraid, or
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: because she was understandably unsatisfied with some situation or another,
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 3: any excuse that can be made, and she doesn't go
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  Speaker 3: to prison anyway, because it's just it's barbaric and in
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: human to put women in prisons. I mean, all they
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 3: did was kill a child. If we imprisoned every woman
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  Speaker 3: who elected to exact the death of a child, we
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 3: would have to build millions of prisons. So we'll just
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: have to presume that children are not human beings, and
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: neither are men. By the way, you can see what
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: they're doing by citing the statistic that sixty percent of
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 3: murdered women are murdered by intimate partners. Men are killed
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: by all kinds of people because men encounter all kinds
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: of people as they venture into the outside world to
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: try and hunt and forage to feed their families. Women
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: don't tend to get killed by randos quite as much
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: because they don't encounter all that many randos. That's why
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 3: they are killed so much less frequently, and that's why
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 3: what's left over is the only people they do frequently
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 3: encounter their intimate partners. And the feminists of the world
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 3: look at this and they think, well, this just proves
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 3: that the most dangerous person in a woman's life is
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 3: her intimate partner. And why would her intimate partner kill her?
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 3: What reason could a husband or boyfriend possibly have for
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 3: killing his wife or girlfriend other than just because she's
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: a woman. And I'm like, it's relatively common for men
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 3: and women to kill their intimate partners. And given that
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: most people are heterosexual, the vast majority of these murders
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: are going to be man versus women in one direction
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: or the other. It's not that men kill women more
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: than women kill men. It's that men get killed more
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 3: by more kinds of people and for more reasons. It's
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: not that men kill women because they're women. It's that
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: people kill their intimate partners, and women tend to be
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 3: the intimate partners of men. Is any of this computing people, No, No,
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 3: it is not, and it never will. It doesn't matter
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 3: how much free and privilege we give to women. Feminists
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  Speaker 3: will always look at whatever is killing women the most,
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: and they will crack down on whatever that thing is.
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  Speaker 3: We could keep every woman in hospital for their entire lives,
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 3: and feminists would go, look, one hundred percent of women
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  Speaker 3: are dying in hospital, it must be the hospitals that
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 3: are killing them, just because they're women, and they'd still
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: find a way to blame men for it, even if
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: the hospitals are staffed entirely by women, which they increasingly
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 3: are by the way. We could force women to wear
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 3: trash bags and force men to chaper on them everywhere
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  Speaker 3: they go, and it will still never occur to people
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 3: that maybe we're protecting women too much. They'll keep demanding
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  Speaker 3: that we protect women even more. We could put every
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 3: every woman in a bubble, and people will still blame
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 3: men rather than blaming the insane feminists who are forcing
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 3: women to live in a bubble, and that, ladies and gentlemen,
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 3: is what we are doing at this point. Metaphorically, of course,
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 3: women live in bubbles completely separated from the consequences of
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 3: their actions. This drives them insane, but all we can
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 3: do is blame men for their insanity while we continue
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 3: to make the bubbles smaller and smaller. Sick of it,
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 3: Absolutely fucking sick of it. Stop it, get some help.
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  Speaker 2: It's actually insanely dangerous for both sexes. And I, like
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: I tend to use AI now instead of a calculator
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: when crunching these types of numbers, because AI adds thoughts to,
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: you know, ideas that I might consider to the number crunching.
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  Speaker 2: And so I did that a while back in a
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: discussion where somebody you know brought up the statistic on
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: what percentage of female murder victims are are killed by
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: an intimate partner. And the first thing that Grock pointed
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: out to me is that the claim is based not
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: on a statistic that counts intimate partner murders, but on
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: a statistic that counts family violence that ends with murder.
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  Speaker 2: So if the family member is a sibling, a parent,
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: the child of the victim, and an aunt or uncle, cousin,
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: you know, niece or nephew that lives in the home
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: with the individual, which there are countries in which extended
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: families do still all live together, that's counted as well
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: as the counting of the intimate partner. And then also statistics,
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  Speaker 2: the statistic on which the sixty percent number is based
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  Speaker 2: does not actually differentiate between women killed by a male
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: intimate partner and women killed by a female intimate partner,
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: and previous calculations I've had it do. Garuk came back
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  Speaker 2: with the answer that less than one tenth of one
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  Speaker 2: percent of the world population is responsible for all violent crimes,
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: and that includes criminal violence around theft, burglary and things
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: like that, criminal violence around sexual violence, intimate partner violence,
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: random and attacks, mugging, et cetera. So not just that
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  Speaker 2: one thing, less than one tenth of one percent of
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: the overall population when you put all of those crimes together,
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: so it's an even smaller percentage, and that's the adult
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: population or the population that can be charged as adults,
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: so people over the age of about fifteen. And when
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: you narrow the scope down to family violence and specifically
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: to murder perpetrated in the context of family violence, it
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: becomes significantly smaller because that is actually a minority among
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: types of violent crime. There are significantly more murders that
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: occur in the scope of burglary, gang rivalries, people trying
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: to attack somebody because of a conflict and a bar,
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: things like that, and very few murders are actually committed
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: because the person is the partner of the perpetrator or
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: because of some related conflict within the family, and it's
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: an an act of family violence. So we were talking
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: tiny percentage of the population. Meanwhile, statistically worldwide, men are
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: eighty percent of homicide victims. Right, So when I had
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: go through and account for all of the factors involved
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: in determining you know, family that this family violence, since
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: we couldn't narrow it down to partner violence, the crime
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: that affects eighty or sixty percent of female homicide victims,
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: forty four percent of the victims of that particular crime,
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: forty four point four percent of the victims of that
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: particular type of crime are male. So women are a
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: slight majority or majority fifty like fifty five point six percent,
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: but not an extreme majority. They're not eighty percent of
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  Speaker 2: family homicide victims or even sixty percent of family homicide victims.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: And this is again a tiny percentage of the population
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: of perpetrators of violent crime. So this is how feminists
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: twist their numbers, right, Like Mike said, you know, it's
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: they're they're ignoring the majority of categories of homicide and
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: violence in order to narrow the skill to just this
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: one because it's the only one left that looks like
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: it affects a significant number of women, But in reality,
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: it's a minority among homicide victims, and within that minority
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: of homicide victims, feminists are only a bare majority, not
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: like the only people that are affected. And there are
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: perpetrators that are female, and some of those female perpetrators
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: kill female partners or female family members. The other interesting
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: thing about this, you know, you have this idea that
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: violence against specifically women, like, if a woman is the
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: target of violence, it must be because she's a woman,
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: and again might kind of killed. That doesn't necessarily mean
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 2: that it does not follow. It's a non sequitor to
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 2: just make that assumption. So jumping to a conclusion in
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: the context of these types of murders, Many people who
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: are murdered by a partner are murdered for insurance money.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: Many people who are murdered by a partner are murdered
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: because there's a conflict over custody of the children in
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: a divorce. Many people who are murdered by a partner
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: are murdered over other financial issues or in a jealous
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: rage because there was cheating involved, or because the murderer
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: wants to cheat with impunity and has gotten caught, or
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: some other form of accountability has occurred that the murderer
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: is trying to dodge and the murderer gets caught. Generally speaking,
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: the gender of the victim is the least determining factor,
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: and the greatest determining factor is some conflict or condition
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: or situation that the murderer thinks they can solve by
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: eliminating the victim, and that's why they attempt to commit
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: that murder. It has nothing to do with domination. It
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: has nothing to do with trying to maintain a patriarchy.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: It has nothing to do with what sex the victim is.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: It has everything to do with the factors that humans
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: kill each other for in any other instance. And in
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: with regard to violence against women, violence against women, the
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: problem is so small in the world that they are
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: scrambling for new types of things to define as violence
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: against women. And now we are hearing terms like online
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: gender based violence, in which if I'm in an argument
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: with Queen Fematopia, Princess Fimotopia, you know, princess but heard
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 2: of the nation of Fimotopia, has that that that you know,
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 2: she has things to say and I have things to say,
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 2: and we don't like what each other has to say.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 2: If someone in the conversation with us, anyone in the
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: conversation with us, calls her a bitch or suggests that
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: she's going to get herself injured by making stupid choices
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: and making herself vulnerable to press, or any such stupid
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: idiotic you know, this is not violence, right, but categorization
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: of violence. This is the things that Anita Sarkisian raised
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: her almost half a million dollars complaining about. They won't count.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: If somebody tells me that I should get raped so
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: that I would know what it was like, which somebody
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: did during the gamer Gate controversy, say to me, oh,
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: you should get raped so you would know what it's like,
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 2: not notwithstanding the fact that I know what it's like,
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: or the fact that this individual was a feminist and
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: therefore believed that she had a one and four chance
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: that she was talking to somebody that had been raped.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it's violence. Now. Your words are violence. Now
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: if you say something rude or mean that references violence,
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: and the person you're talking to is a woman on
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: the right side of the political fence, the feminist side
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 2: of the political fence. If we're on the wrong side
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: of the political fence, if we're supporters of the consumer
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: revolt during the gam or Gate controversy, if we are
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 2: supporters of any conservative cause, any and cap cause, any
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: libertarian cause, anything in between, we don't count. And you
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 2: can threaten to come to our house and beat our asses,
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: and it's not online gender based violence. But if you
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: call the women that we're arguing with bitches or idiots
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: or accidents waiting to happen, that's online gender based violence
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: now right, that's violence. Words that they can shut off,
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 2: words that they don't have to see it. They can
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: mute you, they can close the computer, they can leave
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 2: the conversation, they can block you. And if if you
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 2: say something that they deem scary enough that they feel
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: their life is in danger, or even if it just
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 2: causes them substantial emotional distress. And you're in the United
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: States and they're in the United States, thing have you
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: arrested for stalking and harassment using an electronic device? But no,
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: the you and women right now are trying to get
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: international law passed that will influence national law in various
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: countries to create new criminal statutes to criminalize so called
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: online gender based violence. So if you say shut the
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: fuck up, get back in the kitchen, bitch online as
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 2: a joke, a woman could treat that the same as
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: if you said, on Wednesday next, I am going to
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 2: come to your house with a big knife, break in
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: through your back door, and come into your bedroom at
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: night and kill you. Same difference, right, shut the fuck up, bitch,
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 2: get back in the kitchen, or horror, Oh, I'm going
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: to do this specific crime to you on this specific date,
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: at this specific time, with this specific weapon, in this
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 2: specific location. Yeah, they won't differentiate. So obviously there is
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: not enough real world violence against women for them to
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 2: deal with, and they have to make ship up like
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 2: this as a new type of violence, a brand new
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 2: thing for them to deal with, because they are running
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: out of the problem that they had been capitalizing on.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 2: And at the same time, you know, there's a solution
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 2: that I can offer them. In terms of violence against women,
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 2: statistics show that an intimate partner violence, seventy percent of
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 2: it is female perpetrated. When it's one way, when only
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 2: one partner is hitting, the other partner is not using
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: violence to retaliate or defend themselves or anything else. It's
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 2: just the one partner that's doing the violent behavior to
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 2: the other partner. Seventy percent of the time, it's a
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 2: woman doing that behavior, right, And when the behavior is
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: two way, that is associated with more frequent violence, more
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 2: frequent perpetration, in other words, from women, but not from men,
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  Speaker 2: which indicates that even when the violence is two way,
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  Speaker 2: which can range from about half the time to about
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  Speaker 2: two thirds of the time depending on which study you
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 2: look at, even when it's two way, it's mostly female
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  Speaker 2: perpetrated or female initiated, and most of the time after
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: the woman has initiated violence, if the man is violent
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 2: at all, he is violent in self defense. So in
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 2: that situation, when a woman gets hurt, it is because
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 2: the violence that the man has engaged in is done
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 2: under circumstances that remove his control or reduce his control
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 2: over the level of force he is using and the
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 2: rapidness with which he is using that force. Things like
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 2: you push a guy into a corner and start wailing
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 2: on him, and he pushes back to get you away
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 2: from him. He may push harder than he intended to,
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 2: and even if he's just trying to push you away
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 2: and run away from you so that he doesn't have
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 2: to fight back against you. He may injure you in
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: the process, if you're female, even if you're another dude.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: It's just the dudes know this, and they pick their
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 2: fights more carefully because of it. So if you really
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 2: want to eliminate a significant portion of violence against women,
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 2: you can start by teaching women not to hit first.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 2: Don't back a guy into a corner and start wailing
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 2: on him. Don't punch him in the chest when you're
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 2: mad at him. Don't yell and yell and yell and
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 2: then eventually start pushing and shoving and hitting after you've
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 2: worn him down to his last nerve and he can't
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 2: control himself anymore. Don't do those things. Instead, have reasonable,
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 2: rational conversations. Don't deliberately push a guy's buttons and then
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 2: complain when the button is the on button for his
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 2: fight or flight syndrome or a system. And maybe if
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 2: women learned that, they would not initiate the violence that
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 2: comes back on them and the remainder, which is about
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 2: thirteen percent of the total incidents of domestic violence where
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 2: the perpetrator is just the man and about you know,
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 2: a minority less than half of the rest of domestic
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 2: violence where it's the male initiating. It will be a
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  Speaker 2: lot easier to address and deal with that if you
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 2: didn't get distracted by trying to treat all of the
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 2: other types of violence that are initiated by women as
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 2: if they were the fault of the male that she
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 2: is targeting. Of course, feminists won't go for that. In fact,
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 2: they will call misogyny and pull out that old, worn out, ripped, shredded,
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 2: stained and faded misogyny card male victim card. Right, Oh
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 2: my gosh, you just want to make it okay for
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 2: men to beat women. No, I want to make it
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 2: not okay for women to beat men. I want it
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 2: to be just as verboten for women to initiate violence
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 2: against a man, because I think that there would be
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 2: less violence overall if that were true. If both sexes
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 2: faced taboos that would make you embarrassed to strike your partner,
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 2: if both sexes would face public humiliation and legal consequences
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 2: for engaging in violence against family members, that would significantly
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 2: reduce the amount of violence overall. That's all I'm saying.
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 2: Has nothing to do with wanting men to beat women
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 2: has nothing to do with not caring about the percentage
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 2: the number of murder victims who happen to be female
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 2: victims killed by an intimate partner or other family member,
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 2: and everything to do with pragmatic recognition of what can
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 2: we do to reduce violence? What is the nature of
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 2: the problem, what are the characteristics of the problem, what
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 2: are the contributing factors to the problem, and how can
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 2: we reduce the incidents of the problem. And until that
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 2: type of approach is taken, there is no initiative that's
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 2: ever going to happen that's going to accurately and effectively
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 2: address the problem, no matter how much somebody proclaims to
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 2: care about it, no matter how much somebody claims to
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 2: love women and want to help them. The only thing
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 2: these people are doing is gathering lots of money and
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 2: then wasting a portion of it on false solutions and
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 2: splitting the rest up among themselves. That's it. So I
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 2: have very little sympathy for these feminist protesters. I think
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 2: that they are clowns who aren't doing jack shit for women.
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 2: They hate men. They don't care that there are women
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 2: who are suffering, or that there are men who are
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 2: being abused and ignored or falsely accused. What they care
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 2: about is how to line their own damn pockets and
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 2: how to use this idea to give their governments greater
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 2: control over the men in their countries. That's it. Fuck
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 2: those guys. They can go fuck themselves, all right.
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: I hear that, huh?
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  Speaker 3: All right?
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: So go ahead, Mike.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'll just saying amen, But then I thought
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  Speaker 3: I should correct myself and say.
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  Speaker 2: A women, no, Amen is the correct term, and it
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 2: shouldn't be changed. But it's a good joke, all right.
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: So let's you guys think about this one. In the comments,
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: I got a super chow and a rumble rant. I'm
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: gonna read out really quick, and they're gonna get to
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: the last story. Albatross gives us five dollars and says
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: a lot of what you said about female violence stats
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: can also be said about the trans community. It's more
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: likely to be purported by other transpot bad breakups, jaded lovers,
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: et cetera. Than actual bigots. Well, it's interesting that the
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: law is being spoken about as though it is like
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: a patriarchal problem, but they don't really. The law doesn't
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: get into specifics about who is, you know, uh, the
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: perpetrators of the violence. So I don't know how many
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: lesbians they have in uh an Italy, but it's probably
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: like going, it's probably a big number. They don't want
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: to talk about that.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 2: Well, there's some fingles that needs to be considered here,
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 2: all right. Pretty much every country in the world that
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 2: has any laws governing family violence has a law that
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 2: penalizes for perpetration of violence against an intimate or partner,
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 2: married partner or not that generally, historically has only targeted
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 2: male perpetrators of violence against female partners, regardless of the
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 2: level of violence female partners might engage in. Society has
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 2: always cared all around the world whether or not men
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 2: hit their intimate partners, their female intimate partners, but usually
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 2: has ignored or laughed at men who have been victims
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 2: of violence by their intimate partners. Just a point that
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 2: needs to be acknowledged in that we're not even doing
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 2: anything different now, I mean we.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: Are, yeah, but the world is not. Yeah uh and
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: uh yeah, that's true. So we also got a rumble
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: rant from nova fan who says feminists, let's make it
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: a crime for men to offend women what men would
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: rather socialize with a chatbot instead of being a subservient
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: to feminism. We must arrest men for negligence. Thank you
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: for that, all right, So let us know what you
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: guys think about this one of the comments. We're gonna
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: move on to the last one and uh okay. So
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: on November twentieth, the Ohio state overwhelmingly passed Senate Bill
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 1: one seventy four by a bipartisan vote. So, speaking of
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: bipartisan votes, but this is like a W vote as
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: opposed to an L vote which happened in Italy of
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 1: twenty nine to two, marking a major overhaul of the
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: state's child custody laws. Sponsored by Democrat Senator Paula Hicks
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: Hudson of Toledo and Republican Senator Teresa Gavarni of Bowling Green,
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: the four hundred and twenty two page legislation eliminates outdated
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: concepts like shared parenting, soul custody, and split custody, replacing
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: them with flexible Parenting plan framework that allocates specific responsibilities
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: such as education decisions, healthcare, and residency to a designated
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: parent based solely on the child's best interest the child.
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: Senator approach aims to modernize family court processes, promote meaningful
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: involvement from both parents when appropriate, and adopt adapt to
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: diverse family dynamics, including those involving domestic violence or unique circumstances.
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: The bill now advances to the Ohio House for consideration,
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: where it could become law if approved and signed by governor.
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: The passage drew widespread praise from judicial groups like the
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: Ohio Judicial Conference, the Ohio State Bar Association, and domestic
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: violence advocates such as the Ohio Domestic Violence Network, who
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: hailed it as a long overdue reform that prioritizes children's
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: well being and reduces adversarial winner takes all battles and
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: custody disputes. However, it sparked controversy among some parental rights
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: organizations and family law critics, who argue the changes could
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: empower courts, successively prolonged litigation, inflate legal costs for families,
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 1: and erode parents' fundamental rights by deviating from presumptions of
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: equal shared parenting supported by politic public opinion. Opponents, including
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: those testifying and committee hearings, express concerns that the bill
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: might exacerbate mental health issues. For children or divorce by
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: incentivizing conflict over cooperative arrangements, though supporters counter that its
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: tailored plans better protect vulnerable kids without rigid defaults.
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  Speaker 6: I yeah, it is a mixed bag, and what I've
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 6: been able to gather just from just from looking.
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  Speaker 2: At it, and I am not going to claim to
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 2: have gone through the entire thing, but I've read some
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 2: summary and some of the parts of it verbatim and
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 2: so on. It's what it's done that's bad is it's
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 2: removed the automatic presumption that time with dad is as
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 2: important as time with mom. Equally shared parenting. The basis
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 2: for equally shared parenting is the recognition of the fact
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 2: that and children have involved fathers have all kinds of
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 2: benefits that they get from from their father's involvement in
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 2: their lives, and it's not always understood exactly how that happens,
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 2: what specific like mechanism is involved, and it can be
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 2: anything from big deals to the kids seeing the dad
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 2: get up and go to work every day, to little
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 2: things like one moment in time when dad and son
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 2: or daughter are just playing pitch and catch with a
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 2: baseball or softball at the backyard and the child gets
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 2: frustrated because they have more difficulty catching the ball than
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 2: Dad does. And Dad coaches the child on how to
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 2: deal with that frustration in a sportsmanlike manner as opposed
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 2: to in a childish, wimpy, whiney manor, or an aggressive,
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 2: angry manner or acquitters manor, and it builds character in
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 2: the child in ways that can affect the child's future
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 2: stick touitiveness and approach to things like difficult homework assignments
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 2: in later schooling, or difficult test taking, difficult assignments on
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 2: the job when they go to work, difficult relationships with
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 2: people that they have to have some degree of association with,
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 2: say on the job or as neighbors, and stuff like that.
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 2: So a lot of times it gets devalued. Well, all
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 2: the all he did was go play baseball with the child.
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 2: That's not parenting. Actually, yes, that that is absolutely parenting. Similarly,
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 2: you know Dad, Dad might sit there and watch TV
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 2: with the kids sometimes, but maybe Dad says, we're not
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 2: gonna watch I don't know what was on when when
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 2: we were kids, that was Ship Captain Planet, we are
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 2: going to watch Hogan's Heroes. And because that was on
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 2: reruns of that we're on when I was a kid,
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 2: and and uh, that was that was kind of like
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 2: my dad. My dad didn't do the namby Pamby. Uh,
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 2: we're going to teach you a lesson with this TV show.
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 2: TV shows we've watched stuff like that, like Hogan's Heroes
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 2: or mash Or or w KRP in Cincinnati. Like I
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 2: watched grown up shows when I was a little kid,
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 2: I learned to understand grown up humor. Uh. And I
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 2: also learned to understand grown up ways of responding to
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 2: conflicts and issues. And those TV shows did display real
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 2: world behaviors and how people experienced wrong consequences are right
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 2: right consequences? You know, rewards for different ways of handling things.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 2: And you know, I learned through humor about things like
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 2: using my ingenuity to solve problems that seemed impossible to
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 2: handle and not always expecting everything to go the way
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 2: I wanted it to. And sometimes terrible things happen and
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 2: there's not jack shit you could do about it. You
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 2: have to just tread water until things get better. And
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 2: you know that's not non parenting, that's parenting a guy's way.
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 2: So when the court says, well, it's in the best
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 2: interest of the child. If they're going to school for
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 2: mom's house every morning, what they may be doing is
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 2: taking away the child's opportunity to see maybe how Dad
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 2: streamlines the morning routine differently than how Mom streamlines the
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 2: morning routine and figure out what elements of ingenuity and
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 2: prioritization of things each parent is right about or better at,
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 2: or is more right for them in terms of and
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 2: they miss out on that. The other thing is it
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 2: gives women the bad thing as it gives women a
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 2: tool they could turn around and pretend that the child
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 2: is experiencing mental health crisis over having to go back
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 2: and forth between mom and dad's house and try to
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 2: use that to take the child away from dad. I
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 2: didn't see This doesn't mean it's not there, But I
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 2: didn't see anything in the law addressing attempts at parental
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 2: alienation of the other parent as a form of contempt
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 2: or any other type of criminal behavior. There didn't seem
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 2: to be any consequences if parents tried to limit the
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 2: child's time with the other parent or use the courts
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 2: to limit and lost like making allegations and stuff like that.
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 2: And there wasn't anything. I didn't see anything in it.
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 2: And like I said, I didn't go through the entire
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 2: thing yet, but so far I haven't seen anything in
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 2: it that mandates prosecution for process crimes when the process
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 2: crime is being done specifically to prevent the other side
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 2: from having a something to latch onto to to try
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 2: to further their goals in a custody battle. So you know,
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 2: dad's fighting for for equal custody rights or you know,
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 2: any any degree of custody rights, and moms fighting to
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 2: make sure he doesn't get those custody rights. And she
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 2: doesn't share information or she that she's legally obligated to share,
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 2: or she lies, she commits perjury in court files, a
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 2: false complaint with with police, makes the child lie something
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 2: along those lines. Those are all criminal actions that should
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 2: be it should be mandatory that those get prosecuted when
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 2: when she's trying to use them to influence the outcome
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 2: of the case. And I didn't see any custody law
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 2: needs to have that mandated. Because women use organizations like
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 2: the Women's Domestic Violence Shelters and stuff that supported this legislation.
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 2: They use those organizations to strong arm right now the
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 2: courts when they commit those types of crimes. In the
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 2: course of trying to influence in the outcome of a
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 2: custody battle to keep them from doing anything to hold
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 2: the woman accountable legally for committing those crimes. And it works.
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 2: Like in the seven Years in Hell story, the woman
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 2: in that story, the vexatious litigant in that story, committed
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 2: process crimes, targeting the victim and targeting his wife, his
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 2: second wife, and even targeting other family members, his siblings,
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 2: some of her family members in order to influence the
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 2: outcome of that case. In other cases, and at no
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 2: point was she held accountable. The courts didn't prosecute her
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 2: for that. No, you know, perjury charges, no charges for
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 2: lying to police during an investigation or filing false complaints. Nothing,
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 2: because artimis house here in Dayton pushed the court to
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 2: not do that with the argument that it would be
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 2: encouraging violence against women if they didn't allow her to lie. Basically, So, yeah,
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 2: this is going to be something that the men's rights
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 2: move is going to have to push back against. It's
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 2: going to be important for people in Ohio to write
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 2: to your legislators and send them information from the Father
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 2: Involvement Research Shoot. It's fi ra A I think it's association.
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna look really quick what that stands for. Father
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 2: involvement research Alliance, not association it is. It's Canadian, but
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 2: they have quite a bit of research showing the benefits
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 2: of father involvement. That it needs to be driven home
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 2: to Ohio legislators that both parents are important to a child,
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 2: that both parents need to be present and mature in
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 2: a child's life. You can't just have the mother take
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 2: the child away from the father and say it's in
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 2: the child's best interest to not have to go back
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 2: and forth. It's in the child's best interest that both
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 2: parents work together as a team to raise the child
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 2: to the best of their ability as a family unit.
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 2: And the next best thing is that both parents have
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 2: equal opportunity to contribute positively to the child's development. And
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 2: if you take away the presumption of equally shared parenting rights,
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 2: you destroy that presumption of equal opportunity and you're actually
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 2: not acting in the best interest of the child, You're
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 2: acting in the best interest of women's groups. So that's
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 2: what they need to know, that's what they need to hear,
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 2: that's the letters they need to receive, the calls they
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 2: need to get the emails they need to get tweets,
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 2: tweet at them, and focus in this instance on Republicans
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 2: because Democrats don't give a fuck. I hate to say that,
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 2: but it's true. Republicans at least care about facts when
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 2: it comes to this. They're not gynocentric enough to ignore
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 2: the fact that kids need their dads. Their crime is
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 2: blaming fathers in this situation. But it's unfair to blame
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 2: fathers if the courts are presuming the woman to be
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 2: the primary caregiver and the more necessary parent, and presuming
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 2: it to be in the best interest to the child
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 2: that the child spends most of their time with the
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 2: mother and the father's time with the child is not
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 2: that important. You can't blame the fathers for that because
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 2: the mechanisms that you put into place don't allow them
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 2: access after that. So it's important that Republicans here that
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 2: the government should not be interfering in the father's parent
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 2: child relationship and then blaming dads and shaming them for
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 2: the results of that. So that's your homework. Guys. If
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  Speaker 2: you live in Ohio, and if you live outside of Ohio,
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  Speaker 2: you can write to our politicians and just make fun
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  Speaker 2: of our state. For passing this stupid law.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Mike, do you have any thoughts or do
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  Speaker 1: you think canna?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what the fuck is going on here,
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 3: but it all sounds pretty suss. It all sounds open
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 3: to interpretation. And whenever anything in family courts is open
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 3: to interpretation, it means mother, good, father, bad, especially when
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 3: it all comes down to the decision of the judge,
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 3: who is almost always a feminine simp. I'm looking at
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 3: this from the UK, where trial by jury is about
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 3: to become a thing of the past thanks to Saint
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 3: David Lammy, a functional retard, and no one's talking about
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  Speaker 3: what this means four family cats. What it means is
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 3: women can get away with absolutely but fuck anything, be
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 3: it civil or criminal, because it all comes down to
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 3: the whims of the judge, and our judges are died
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 3: in the world. Simps to a man, and I do
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 3: mean to a man. So permit me to consider Ohio
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  Speaker 3: based on what happens in the UK, because this will
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 3: happen to you too. The feminist vanguard in any given
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 3: US state has invariably already happened in some European state,
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 3: probably the UK, like so does it native parent, right,
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  Speaker 3: That just means mother, doesn't it based solely on the
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  Speaker 3: child's best interests. That just means give the child to
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  Speaker 3: the mother. That's what it has always meant. Diverse family dynamics. Okay,
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 3: the clue there is diverse. That means, I mean diversity
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 3: means no men allowed. That's that's what it always meant.
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  Speaker 3: Domestic violence or unique circumstances, that just means the mother
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 3: feels afraid, so we should give her whatever she wants. Like,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not trying to blackpill anyone. I'm just saying this
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  Speaker 3: sounds like more of the same. It sounds like more
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  Speaker 3: wishy washy. Legally, is that any judge can interpret any
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  Speaker 3: way they like, and that means they will adjudicate in
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 3: favor of the mother every single time.
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  Speaker 1: You are right.
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  Speaker 3: I I just want to hear words to the effect
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  Speaker 3: of the mother no longer gets to do whatever the
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 3: fuck she likes all the time. I just want to
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 3: hear words of that effect, because that is the fucking problem.
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 3: I'm sick of everyone arranging deck chairs on the Titanic.
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 3: Fucking steer the ship away from the iceberg. Please, well,
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 3: I mean we already hit the iceberg long ago. And
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 3: the ship is basically underwater at this point, I guess
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 3: what I want is some assurance that some men are
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  Speaker 3: allowed on the fucking lifeboats, given that the ship has
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 3: already hit the fucking iceberg, not that the crew have
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 3: been given license to use their own judgment as to
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 3: who gets the lifeboats, when that crew has already been
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 3: trained to give the lifeboats to the women and the children.
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 3: Is this change going to result in some men getting
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  Speaker 3: to escape in the lifeboats because of the merits they
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 3: have as parents. Have the people in charge of the
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 3: lifeboats been sufficiently deprogrammed so as to finally be able
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 3: to say, I don't give a shit that you're a woman,
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 3: you're fucking insane, and you beat your children. I don't
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 3: care if you call me a misogynist. I don't care
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 3: if you run to the press to browbeat me into
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 3: giving women everything and men nothing. I'm not going to
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 3: cave in to your psychotic demands. Get to fuck tell
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 3: me this is what you're going to do. Stop mincing
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 3: your words and just tell me you're going to undo
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 3: what has been done. Until that happens, I'm going to
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 3: assume you'll just keep doing what you've always been doing.
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 3: Give it to me star, that's right. Don't give it
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 3: to me gay. I'm sick and tired of you giving
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 3: it to me. Gay. Give it to me straight. I've
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 3: been fucked too many times and my ass.
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 2: I can't blame me for that. To explain what's going
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  Speaker 2: on with the law, based on the Titanic terms that
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 2: you mentioned right picture, there are fifty Titanics, fifty separate
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  Speaker 2: Titanics that are all loosely bound to each other through
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 2: an agreement that I have all hit the iceberg because
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 2: of that loose binding and some other factors, and about
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 2: half of them, it's trending upwards. Have determined that the
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 2: lifeboats have fifty percent male access in terms of like
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 2: the lifeboats being being custody of their children, but Ohio
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 2: hadn't done that. People have been writing to Ohio legislators
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 2: to ask Ohio to do that, and their response is
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 2: to say, we are changing from the judge being guided
• 2:04:17
  Speaker 2: by the best interests of the children in the lifeboats
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 2: as to which parent belongs in the lifeboat with the
• 2:04:28
  Speaker 2: child and having to choose between one or the other,
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 2: to judges getting to choose based on the best interest
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 2: of the child as to whether or not one or
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 2: both parents go in the lifeboat. So does that really
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 2: sound dramatically different, because it doesn't to me.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry I was muted right then. Yeah, that's good. Thanks
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