Latest / NO FILTER / Joe Rogan Experience _2247 - Duncan Trussell(M4A_128K)
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- 0:02Speaker 1: Podcast check it out.
- 0:03Speaker 2: But Joe Regan Experience Train by Day Joe.
- 0:07Speaker 3: Rogan Podcast by Night all Day.
- 0:12Speaker 2: Oh shit, I didn't know we got bells.
- 0:15Speaker 1: Yeah, bro, we got bells. It's probably super annoying to
- 0:18Speaker 1: people listening for.
- 0:20Speaker 2: It's fucking Christmas. The warrant Christmas must end?
- 0:24Speaker 1: How dare we say Mary Christmas?
- 0:25Speaker 2: How dare you say that? It offends made?
- 0:29Speaker 1: Do you ever see Kamala Harris do that?
- 0:31Speaker 2: When she had this, she said, out, dare you say
- 0:33Speaker 2: fucking Christmas?
- 0:34Speaker 1: You've never seen it?
- 0:35Speaker 2: No?
- 0:35Speaker 1: Oh my god. Okay, let's start it with this because
- 0:37Speaker 1: it's so crazy. I don't understand the context, so, like
- 0:41Speaker 1: I wish I could be charitable and say, well, there's
- 0:45Speaker 1: probably a context where this makes sense.
- 0:47Speaker 2: Yeah, Satan is the Lord of the Earth is the context.
- 0:51Speaker 1: But you know, you see something that it's only a
- 0:53Speaker 1: fifteen second clip and you be like, okay, let me
- 0:56Speaker 1: just be the nicest person possible. Yes, Like, what what
- 0:59Speaker 1: could be the reason why you would say how dare
- 1:01Speaker 1: we say merry Christmas? Yeah? Unless you're playing a character right. Well,
- 1:05Speaker 1: she's on stage doing a play. She's like, I want
- 1:08Speaker 1: to read from my college play where I was the Grinch.
- 1:12Speaker 2: Can you imagine saying that like it seems like a
- 1:14Speaker 2: nightmare that you would wake up from it?
- 1:17Speaker 1: Says Harris Fume. Did Americans saying Merry Christmas before illegal
- 1:21Speaker 1: migrants were protected in resurface clips?
- 1:24Speaker 2: Oh, you're not allowed to stay it until there's absolute
- 1:26Speaker 2: peace and harmony on the planet. Then we get started
- 1:28Speaker 2: saying it a.
- 1:29Speaker 1: This is so scolding and weird. Only when they.
- 1:31Speaker 4: Cleared that vent did we give them DACA status, And
- 1:36Speaker 4: now we're talking about taking it away. It is morally wrong.
- 1:41Speaker 2: No, thank you. I didn't know.
- 1:43Speaker 1: And when we.
- 1:43Speaker 4: All sing happy tunes and sing Merry Christmas and wish
- 1:47Speaker 4: each other merry Christmas, these children are not going to
- 1:50Speaker 4: have a merry Christmas? How dare we speak merry Christmas?
- 1:56Speaker 2: How dare we.
- 1:59Speaker 4: They will not have a merry Christmas?
- 2:01Speaker 2: Who are you to say that?
- 2:02Speaker 4: I don't know if they will be here in a
- 2:04Speaker 4: matter of days, weeks and months. Since September fifth, over
- 2:10Speaker 4: twelve thousand have lost their status.
- 2:14Speaker 1: This is the Here's why you can't be charitable because
- 2:18Speaker 1: it's just a bad perspective. It's just a bad perspective. Charitable.
- 2:23Speaker 1: What do you mean because if you wanted to, Like,
- 2:26Speaker 1: what does anything she saying make sense? You? They're not
- 2:30Speaker 1: mutually exclusive? All right? You can't. It's like celebrating joy
- 2:36Speaker 1: and happiness and some people suffering. It's like, you can't.
- 2:40Speaker 1: You can't say no one is going to suffer anywhere
- 2:45Speaker 1: before I celebrate now, because that's crazy. Now you're taking
- 2:50Speaker 1: in the entire Earth's consciousness and all of its decisions. Yeah,
- 2:55Speaker 1: as to whether or not you will or we not
- 2:57Speaker 1: will not be happy like you and I didn't force
- 3:00Speaker 1: anybody to work in the cobalt mines. Now yet buy
- 3:03Speaker 1: these fucking phones, We buy these fucking fines and we know,
- 3:07Speaker 1: we know that electronics that have cobalt in them, we're
- 3:11Speaker 1: probably pulled out of the ground by slaves. Should we
- 3:14Speaker 1: never celebrate anything again until those people are free?
- 3:18Speaker 2: No? Never, never, We should just be shitting in our hands,
- 3:21Speaker 2: rubbing in our faces, whipping our backs intil the whole
- 3:25Speaker 2: world experience is a simultaneous orgasm. Then Merry Christmas to you.
- 3:30Speaker 1: But if you are a drone, so let's just say
- 3:32Speaker 1: they really are into galactic beings and you're watching all
- 3:36Speaker 1: of our hypocrisy and our scolding of each other, and
- 3:40Speaker 1: these like untested perspectives just pu jizzed out into the world,
- 3:47Speaker 1: and you're looking at all this craziness, Like the manufacturing
- 3:53Speaker 1: of almost everything that we have that comes from overseas
- 3:56Speaker 1: is probably from horrible conditions.
- 3:59Speaker 2: Yeah, just accepted that.
- 4:01Speaker 1: Like if aliens were watching this to be like, what
- 4:04Speaker 1: were they bullshitting? Oh, they're bullshitting each other. They bullshitting themselves.
- 4:08Speaker 1: They're trying to figure out how many genders there are.
- 4:10Speaker 1: They're trying they're trying to decide like who's the most
- 4:14Speaker 1: protective status, so you can't discuss about anything. Yeah, currently
- 4:18Speaker 1: that's illegal immigrants.
- 4:20Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, I was just like, dude, for
- 4:24Speaker 2: I don't know why I started doing this, highly recommend it.
- 4:27Speaker 2: I started listening because I forgot a lot of the
- 4:30Speaker 2: New Age ideas. So I started listening to New Age
- 4:34Speaker 2: channeled Audibles, aliens channeled through New Age people cheers, my
- 4:40Speaker 2: brother cheers.
- 4:46Speaker 1: Isn't that SETH speaks?
- 4:48Speaker 2: Isn't that it's a whole genre?
- 4:49Speaker 1: But is that Seth speaks person? Is that that's the
- 4:52Speaker 1: whole deal behind that? Right?
- 4:53Speaker 2: It's okay, So it's again I'm like, my mom got
- 4:56Speaker 2: into it briefly because she dated this new age dude,
- 5:00Speaker 2: and I fucking hated it. He wore birkenstocks, He'd forced
- 5:03Speaker 2: us to go on hikes. He wouldn't let me take
- 5:05Speaker 2: my fake gun. You know, you're a kid. You want
- 5:07Speaker 2: to take your fake gun on the hike. He's like,
- 5:09Speaker 2: we don't do that on hikes, you know, the fucking
- 5:12Speaker 2: fascist hike where you're forced to recognize the beauty of nature.
- 5:16Speaker 2: And it's like, dude, don't put that on me. I'll
- 5:19Speaker 2: find it on my own. But he got my mom
- 5:23Speaker 2: and a New Age stuff. And this was prime New
- 5:26Speaker 2: Age time. This is like, h this is when they
- 5:29Speaker 2: all killed themselves. It's like they were part of it too.
- 5:32Speaker 2: They were wearing the sneakers what were they called Heaven's Gate.
- 5:36Speaker 2: I knew that was a New Age cold. So I
- 5:40Speaker 2: remember like watching these old grainy VHS tapes with my
- 5:44Speaker 2: mom and this dude and thinking they were cool, and
- 5:49Speaker 2: like there was some sound that was playing in one
- 5:52Speaker 2: and my mom looks at me like hopefully, like do
- 5:54Speaker 2: you recognize that sound? Because I guess here's.
- 6:01Speaker 1: The thing about all this. I think some telepathy is real.
- 6:07Speaker 2: It is real.
- 6:07Speaker 1: I think it is real. Have you listened to the
- 6:10Speaker 1: telepathy tapes. Now you haven't.
- 6:12Speaker 2: I haven't listened to it.
- 6:13Speaker 1: It's a new podcast. It's out and it's all about
- 6:17Speaker 1: this scientific research that was done with nonverbal autistic kids
- 6:22Speaker 1: and their parents, and they were able to go into
- 6:25Speaker 1: another room and they would bring up things to one
- 6:31Speaker 1: whether it was I think, I think they would bring
- 6:33Speaker 1: things up to the mom or the mom would say things,
- 6:35Speaker 1: but the kid was accurate ninety five percent of the time.
- 6:39Speaker 2: Wow.
- 6:40Speaker 1: With numbers with colors? Yeah, like like three numbers in
- 6:45Speaker 1: a row. Yeah, but you know how crazy that is
- 6:47Speaker 1: just to guess three numbers in a row ninety five
- 6:49Speaker 1: percent of the time.
- 6:50Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 6:51Speaker 1: Like whatever it is, they think it's real. I'm only
- 6:53Speaker 1: on episode two, so, but it's really fascinating man, because
- 6:58Speaker 1: it's a dismissed thing. It's a woo woo thing. Sure,
- 7:02Speaker 1: but if it's real, shouldn't scientists study it like it's real?
- 7:06Speaker 1: And it seems like through scientific study it's real.
- 7:09Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's definitely. You've probably experienced it. I've
- 7:12Speaker 2: experienced it.
- 7:13Speaker 1: I think it's an emerging part of human consciousness that
- 7:17Speaker 1: we don't we don't agree to, or we don't admit to,
- 7:21Speaker 1: like we know there's something there, but we're not like
- 7:24Speaker 1: that's too silly. It's just there's so many people that
- 7:27Speaker 1: fake it. That's the problem, right, because everybody like wants
- 7:33Speaker 1: to have some special thing that they have. Always have
- 7:36Speaker 1: a special thing. You have a special thing, ton, can
- 7:38Speaker 1: you have a special talent?
- 7:39Speaker 2: I mean, think of all the Firestarter Carrie, Yeah, stranger things.
- 7:45Speaker 2: This is the fantasy. When I was a kid, dude,
- 7:47Speaker 2: I would sit when my dad was working in his
- 7:49Speaker 2: apartment and try to make shit on the table move
- 7:52Speaker 2: with my mind because I've been reading books on telekinesis.
- 7:56Speaker 2: One day, you know, like when I when like you've
- 8:01Speaker 2: got a cold drink and it gets a little wet
- 8:03Speaker 2: on the bottom. One day, as I'm doing that, because
- 8:07Speaker 2: of that, it slid forward, and like I was like
- 8:11Speaker 2: totally freaked out because I thought I'd use telekinesis to slide.
- 8:15Speaker 2: It was just luck. It was just luck.
- 8:18Speaker 1: It was just a badly balanced floor.
- 8:20Speaker 2: It would it was just a shitty fucking apartment college station.
- 8:24Speaker 2: But you know that's the that once you recognize the
- 8:28Speaker 2: flaw and the operating system in humans is so like
- 8:31Speaker 2: as a kid, like for a few days, I was like, shit,
- 8:34Speaker 2: I might be telekinetic, but like once you know people
- 8:37Speaker 2: want that or want to believe in it, and how
- 8:40Speaker 2: easy it is to manufacture those moments and then claim responsibility.
- 8:44Speaker 2: Holy shit, dude, you can really pull some strings on
- 8:48Speaker 2: people because there's an assumption. Let's say some I do know,
- 8:51Speaker 2: I really believe in telepathy and positive it exists. But
- 8:55Speaker 2: the assumption there then would be like you get around
- 8:57Speaker 2: a telepathic person, well, they must be good because they're telepathic, right,
- 9:02Speaker 2: they're they're they're magic, so we should trust them. This
- 9:06Speaker 2: is where people get real fucked up. These are called
- 9:08Speaker 2: in India, they call them cities, which is if you
- 9:11Speaker 2: meditate a lot, right, you begin to like, well, I
- 9:15Speaker 2: would say, comedy is a city. Oh you know, it's
- 9:17Speaker 2: not special.
- 9:19Speaker 1: Uh.
- 9:19Speaker 2: I was talking Luis Gomez about sales. You know that
- 9:22Speaker 2: says that's the really good people and get in your
- 9:25Speaker 2: head and get to buy shit. He was saying, it's
- 9:28Speaker 2: like basically magic, and it's like so hypnosis hypnosis, Yeah,
- 9:33Speaker 2: but man, have you ever been hypnotized? Yes?
- 9:35Speaker 1: I have. It's interesting, right, dude.
- 9:37Speaker 2: My mom hypnotized me when I had a wart because
- 9:40Speaker 2: she had heard you could hypnotize people and the wart
- 9:43Speaker 2: goes away, hypnotize me said something about the wart going away.
- 9:48Speaker 2: Within a couple of weeks, I swear to you that
- 9:51Speaker 2: wart fucking dried up and just fell off my hand. Whoa, yeah, whoa,
- 9:56Speaker 2: what the fuck?
- 9:57Speaker 1: Whoa? What the fuck? Well, that's the placebo effect. The
- 10:02Speaker 1: placebo effect is real. You know. I had a guy
- 10:04Speaker 1: tell me this once. He was like a kind of
- 10:07Speaker 1: a wacky healing chiropractic type guy. Yeah, and he was
- 10:11Speaker 1: telling me that if you believe what I'm saying is true,
- 10:16Speaker 1: because I was asking him like, how does this work?
- 10:17Speaker 1: Like how is this working? Like how are you healing
- 10:19Speaker 1: people by working on my passing on things? If you
- 10:23Speaker 1: believe it works, so it's a lie. But if I
- 10:26Speaker 1: believe the lie, so what are you selling? Like he's
- 10:31Speaker 1: just he's just like fucking manipulating people and saying mumbo
- 10:35Speaker 1: jumbo muscular structural words. Yeah, and you're doing you're doing
- 10:40Speaker 1: hypnosis kind of because you're you're sort of admitting that
- 10:43Speaker 1: by healing like a person who's going to heal you
- 10:46Speaker 1: with words and talking and touching you, they're tricking you
- 10:50Speaker 1: into doing it yourself.
- 10:51Speaker 2: Well, I mean, the placebo effect, it's real, is real,
- 10:55Speaker 2: I've heard it's one of the most powerful effects in medicine,
- 10:58Speaker 2: is it really? Yeah? Well, I mean yeah yeah. You
- 11:00Speaker 2: think of like the new cancer drugs, they tell your
- 11:03Speaker 2: immune system what to attack, right, So if somehow you
- 11:08Speaker 2: could do that without the drug, if there were And
- 11:11Speaker 2: that's where it gets interesting, right, because these are our
- 11:16Speaker 2: bodies right, perfectly metabolizing, transforming so many things instantaneously, the
- 11:24Speaker 2: heart effortlessly beating all the fucking time. So theoretically, purely theoretically,
- 11:33Speaker 2: what if you could control more of it? Like how
- 11:35Speaker 2: much of this thing can we actually control? And by
- 11:37Speaker 2: the way, that's a really fun thing to think about,
- 11:39Speaker 2: because like not much. And so do you ever think
- 11:45Speaker 2: about that? Like you sort of think like, okay, like
- 11:47Speaker 2: I'm how much of my body can I really do
- 11:51Speaker 2: anything about? I can eat good food, I can exercise,
- 11:54Speaker 2: but all the quantum processes that are happening within all
- 11:59Speaker 2: of the things, you kind of realize you're just the
- 12:01Speaker 2: tip of the iceberg. You're just the yappy tip of
- 12:03Speaker 2: the iceberg, and underneath it is all this stuff that
- 12:06Speaker 2: is you, but really isn't you? If having control of
- 12:10Speaker 2: yourself is like a way to identify this as me
- 12:14Speaker 2: so what are you in that swirl of particulates, like,
- 12:18Speaker 2: what are you in there?
- 12:20Speaker 1: Yeah? What are you?
- 12:21Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 12:22Speaker 1: That's most people. And that's one of the reasons why
- 12:25Speaker 1: ideologies are so interesting, because it's the same thing, it's
- 12:31Speaker 1: the same person. It just they've agreed to one thing
- 12:35Speaker 1: or they agreed to the other thing. And it could
- 12:37Speaker 1: be how you were raised, or it could be you rebelling,
- 12:40Speaker 1: or it could be but people find a way to
- 12:43Speaker 1: fucking slip into a groove. Yeah, it's so much easier
- 12:48Speaker 1: than trying to look at like what is this, Yeah,
- 12:51Speaker 1: what is this thing we're doing? Or I'm making noises
- 12:54Speaker 1: with my mouth, you're reading my mind and we're like
- 12:57Speaker 1: broadcasting it to the world by making noise with your mouth,
- 13:01Speaker 1: where we're speaking through each other's minds.
- 13:03Speaker 2: Yeah. And also though, you know, when you get into
- 13:06Speaker 2: the telepathy idea, which is sort of like the question
- 13:10Speaker 2: is like, you know, right now, we identify our minds
- 13:16Speaker 2: as some kind of neurological process, right, So the idea
- 13:20Speaker 2: is like we have this like biocomputer, and somewhere in
- 13:24Speaker 2: there is our mind. Everything out here not our mind,
- 13:28Speaker 2: even though everything out here from a neurological perspective is
- 13:32Speaker 2: our mind. Everything you're seeing is an instantaneous interpretation of
- 13:40Speaker 2: a variety of phenomena that gets compressed into reality. And
- 13:43Speaker 2: then you say, oh, out there, that's not me, but
- 13:48Speaker 2: it is you. It's like it's you and the way
- 13:50Speaker 2: if you put on VR goggles, you know, except in
- 13:54Speaker 2: this case the VR goggles, it's your neocortex. It's all
- 13:56Speaker 2: the processes that are making color, lights, sound, et cetera.
- 13:59Speaker 2: So if we're sort of sharing a duel reality, which
- 14:03Speaker 2: is all the phenomena that's being interpreted into our minds,
- 14:06Speaker 2: somewhere in there is the possibility that we kind of
- 14:09Speaker 2: share a mind. So from that perspective, all these other
- 14:13Speaker 2: things become possible to lepathy all of this stuff. Like
- 14:18Speaker 2: you know, you get around funny people, you get funnier.
- 14:20Speaker 2: When I was doing the Midnight Gospels around all these artists,
- 14:23Speaker 2: I got better at drawing. Like you share a mind,
- 14:26Speaker 2: it's the gestalt or you know, the where three or
- 14:29Speaker 2: two or more of your gathered, there will be that
- 14:32Speaker 2: something else comes in the room, and I.
- 14:34Speaker 1: Think we're collaborating with something that we're were we don't
- 14:39Speaker 1: truly understand because we're still trapped in primate bodies. Yes,
- 14:43Speaker 1: so I think we have these moments of recognition of
- 14:47Speaker 1: these connections, you know, and great moments in life and
- 14:51Speaker 1: these beautiful things that can happen, and it's all being
- 14:58Speaker 1: twisted up by this eight this wild ape that had
- 15:02Speaker 1: to survive for thousands and thousands of years by killing
- 15:05Speaker 1: its neighbors, Yeah, and eating monkeys and fucking running around
- 15:10Speaker 1: and clubbing things to death and eating raw meat until
- 15:14Speaker 1: it figured out how to harness fire. And then it
- 15:16Speaker 1: had to deal with neighboring tribes coming in with hordes
- 15:19Speaker 1: of people with swords and spears, and you had to
- 15:23Speaker 1: run for the hills. They killed your kids in front
- 15:25Speaker 1: of you, They fucked your wife in front of you.
- 15:28Speaker 1: They cut your dick off and stuffed it in your mouth.
- 15:30Speaker 1: And this was thousands and thousands of years. Yeah, this
- 15:36Speaker 1: thing we're doing right now is so recent. This thing
- 15:40Speaker 1: where you can meet strangers you don't have to worry
- 15:42Speaker 1: about killing them.
- 15:43Speaker 2: Yeah, it's super recent. Dogs aren't there yet. That's why
- 15:47Speaker 2: dogs freak out when someone comes to your door. They're
- 15:49Speaker 2: not there yet. They still remember the old.
- 15:51Speaker 1: Days, and that's a great point.
- 15:54Speaker 2: They're still like, dude, usually someone's coming up. We have
- 15:58Speaker 2: to kill it, like they're reminding you of that, you know,
- 16:02Speaker 2: and it's true. I mean, but if you look at
- 16:05Speaker 2: that collective epigenetic trauma as an aggrigor as a ghost,
- 16:13Speaker 2: a ghost haunting the planet, the ghost of like not.
- 16:16Speaker 1: That way now, the ghost of primate past.
- 16:18Speaker 2: The ghost of primate past haunts us. And that's why
- 16:21Speaker 2: it's so easy to slide into aggressive patterns and defensive
- 16:28Speaker 2: patterns that are completely unnecessary.
- 16:31Speaker 1: And that's what they are too. This is what you
- 16:32Speaker 1: have to realize. It's not you, it's patterns that you've selected,
- 16:36Speaker 1: and you've you've selected them over and over and over again,
- 16:39Speaker 1: and they've become you. It's like you went down a groove.
- 16:42Speaker 1: You don't have to stay on that groove. No, you
- 16:45Speaker 1: don't have to, But I think you have to find
- 16:50Speaker 1: something in life that's physical that you enjoy, because I
- 16:55Speaker 1: think that's one of the best ways to manage this
- 16:58Speaker 1: fucking weirdness of absolute best way is through getting physically exhausted.
- 17:04Speaker 1: Just get get on purpose, get physically exhausted, and then
- 17:08Speaker 1: you can manage the craziness of existing. Yeah, because everybody
- 17:13Speaker 1: wants to pretend that it's normal. Everyone wants to pretend
- 17:16Speaker 1: that existence is like get up on the morning, you
- 17:19Speaker 1: fucking have your eggs and you're bacon and you sit.
- 17:21Speaker 2: Here what chapel Roone said, Yeah, exactly exactly.
- 17:26Speaker 1: It's like every day it's like, oh my god, this
- 17:28Speaker 1: is happening. What do you think the drones are? What
- 17:30Speaker 1: do you think the drones are? You know how much
- 17:33Speaker 1: to dancey blows he make this week in this doog market?
- 17:35Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 17:36Speaker 1: Yeah, even like what what is this?
- 17:39Speaker 2: Right?
- 17:40Speaker 1: What are we doing?
- 17:42Speaker 2: Did you see the new ship that they found out
- 17:44Speaker 2: about consciousness in the human brain? This popped up at
- 17:48Speaker 2: my feed This dude, Penrose, this guy used to be
- 17:51Speaker 2: an antesthesiologist. You already knew about these neurological structures that
- 17:55Speaker 2: are these quantum tubules that apparently anesthesia impacts. And he
- 18:00Speaker 2: began to think maybe consciousness is not associated as much
- 18:04Speaker 2: as we thought with the with neurons, but as a
- 18:09Speaker 2: micro structure within the brain, these quantum tubules that get
- 18:14Speaker 2: shut down when there's anesthesia. And so there's this new, controversial,
- 18:18Speaker 2: sort of emergent theory of consciousness, which is that when
- 18:22Speaker 2: you are awake, you go from being a wave to
- 18:26Speaker 2: a particle in other words, whatever you want to call it.
- 18:30Speaker 2: The I am the all one situation that we actually
- 18:34Speaker 2: are experiencing gets compressed into a particle, which is your
- 18:40Speaker 2: experience of reality. But when you fall asleep and taking
- 18:43Speaker 2: a facet, you go into a superposition, when that's that
- 18:46Speaker 2: feeling of being connected to everything, part of everything, not
- 18:50Speaker 2: even being there anymore. So we're those things simultaneously. And
- 18:55Speaker 2: I guess as far as the default reality that you're
- 18:59Speaker 2: talking about, that's a situation where it's a bunch of
- 19:03Speaker 2: particles that have focused in a like a buffet of
- 19:09Speaker 2: moments that the news curates. So the news is like, Okay,
- 19:12Speaker 2: be mad at this person, this person's wrong, this person's right.
- 19:17Speaker 2: Here's what you should be afraid of. Here's a celebrity
- 19:19Speaker 2: that sucks, you know. That's the whole business, bottom, business bottom.
- 19:28Speaker 1: That's the way we get the news. That's it isn't
- 19:30Speaker 1: that chrazy and sponsored by pharmaceutical drug company?
- 19:34Speaker 2: Here you go and everybody else.
- 19:36Speaker 1: I was watching a regular movie the other night. I
- 19:40Speaker 1: was in a hotel, and so it was the only
- 19:42Speaker 1: thing they had in the hotel was regular movies on
- 19:45Speaker 1: TV TV. So I was watching John Wick on TV
- 19:49Speaker 1: and it's every five minutes you're bombarded with nonsense. They
- 19:55Speaker 1: stopped the show and give you five minutes of no,
- 20:00Speaker 1: that's right, just nonsense about the in side effects.
- 20:04Speaker 2: It's unnerving. And also when you realize we think the
- 20:08Speaker 2: show is John Wick, that ain't the show. The show
- 20:11Speaker 2: is the nonsense that's happening in between John Wick. Because
- 20:14Speaker 2: when you think out when you're watching a good movie,
- 20:17Speaker 2: you relax, you calm down, you open up. It's the perfect,
- 20:24Speaker 2: perfect state of consciousness to manipulate people.
- 20:27Speaker 1: I also thought it was incredible that they bleeped out
- 20:30Speaker 1: all the bad words when the commercials were far more offensive. Yeah,
- 20:38Speaker 1: they bleeped out fuck, they bleeped out this. I was like,
- 20:41Speaker 1: how are they gonna handle this scene? Because there's this
- 20:43Speaker 1: scene where the Russian mobster his son comes home from
- 20:49Speaker 1: this job in Atlantic City and after he did this
- 20:51Speaker 1: thing with John Wick, and the guy's like, who the fuck?
- 20:55Speaker 1: Nobody goes that fucking nobody is John Wick. And it's
- 20:59Speaker 1: like this the whole setup of John Wick, and it's
- 21:02Speaker 1: that nobody like, no, you're gross.
- 21:07Speaker 2: I can't say fuck.
- 21:07Speaker 1: You took out the fuck. But meanwhile you're telling me
- 21:10Speaker 1: about a bloody diarrhea that might kill you if you
- 21:13Speaker 1: take this drug. Yeah, you're telling me about side effects
- 21:16Speaker 1: that are like suicide, like all kinds of like wild shit, depression, anxiety, fear,
- 21:24Speaker 1: and silent tendencies, dude, gambling addictions.
- 21:28Speaker 2: This is so when you think about the idea that
- 21:32Speaker 2: if you know what a group of witches is called
- 21:35Speaker 2: a coven, a group of Christians is called a church,
- 21:38Speaker 2: the idea is sort of simultaneous prayer causes change. Now
- 21:43Speaker 2: there's different words where some people call the prayer spells,
- 21:46Speaker 2: some people call the prayer a pep rally. You were
- 21:49Speaker 2: gonna go, go go. You look at the football game,
- 21:52Speaker 2: You're seeing covens of witches cheering to direct energy at
- 21:57Speaker 2: the team they want to try to like move the
- 21:59Speaker 2: needle little bit. But when you consider the power of
- 22:04Speaker 2: directing little bubble universes, which is every single human focusing
- 22:10Speaker 2: that beam of attention onto certain ideas, dude, you could
- 22:14Speaker 2: you're you're you're not only are you going to create
- 22:16Speaker 2: whatever it is you want to create in the case
- 22:18Speaker 2: of an advertiser, make some money, but theoretically you could
- 22:23Speaker 2: guide history that way. And and the last thing you
- 22:27Speaker 2: want them to figure out is if they all stop
- 22:30Speaker 2: focusing on what you're telling them to focus on and
- 22:33Speaker 2: trust themselves enough to focus on what they want to
- 22:35Speaker 2: focus on, which is usually not bad, then all of
- 22:39Speaker 2: a sudden you would lose that kind of magical control.
- 22:42Speaker 2: You lose the actual steering wheel of the uh of
- 22:46Speaker 2: the weird vehicle or you know, and we you know,
- 22:49Speaker 2: they're like, it's democracy. The steering wheel is your vote
- 22:52Speaker 2: and the president and the elected officials who guide the country.
- 22:56Speaker 2: But the real steering wheel is here's what we're going
- 22:58Speaker 2: to eat to pay attention to. You need to pay
- 23:00Speaker 2: attention to this right now. And if we all pay
- 23:02Speaker 2: attention to that, it like where attention goes, energy flows.
- 23:07Speaker 1: Now, you know what I think it is. I think
- 23:10Speaker 1: it's like if we're in a factory. If we're in
- 23:14Speaker 1: a factory and there's certain gears that turn certain machines,
- 23:19Speaker 1: and they think they're the only thing that exists, but
- 23:23Speaker 1: it's a chain of things that have to take place
- 23:27Speaker 1: in order to manufacture something like a tesla. Like imagine
- 23:31Speaker 1: if you are if we just don't realize it, but
- 23:35Speaker 1: if everything has a consciousness at least in some sort
- 23:38Speaker 1: of a limited capacity, literally everything even tables, everything has
- 23:42Speaker 1: some thing. We're just we're super egoistic, and we believe
- 23:47Speaker 1: that only we possess this. But we know dogs have
- 23:49Speaker 1: it too, which it gets where it gets weird. Animals
- 23:52Speaker 1: have it. We know that. But this whole thing that
- 23:57Speaker 1: we're doing is trying to understand how we interface, Like
- 24:04Speaker 1: how are we doing this? Like if we're in a
- 24:08Speaker 1: world where it's twenty twenty four and there's drones flying
- 24:13Speaker 1: over New Jersey and they're gaslighting us, saying they're all airplanes.
- 24:17Speaker 1: They're saying, we have it under control. Yeah, and then
- 24:19Speaker 1: it appears there was a satellite that was shot out
- 24:22Speaker 1: of the sky. Yeah, have you seen that? No, No,
- 24:24Speaker 1: you haven't seen that. This is the big conspiracy. And
- 24:27Speaker 1: again I have done no research, so do not believe me,
- 24:30Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen. Okay, alf The big conspiracy is that
- 24:36Speaker 1: these are Chinese drones and they're being piloted by a
- 24:40Speaker 1: satellite that they shot out of Arber And this is
- 24:42Speaker 1: a conspiracy, unfounded, conspiracy, unfounders. But I'm just for funsies.
- 24:47Speaker 1: For funsies.
- 24:48Speaker 2: Well, I mean, do you remember when those weird green
- 24:51Speaker 2: fucking lights showed up in Hawaii?
- 24:54Speaker 1: Well, I remember where there was a ship right and
- 24:56Speaker 1: there was like these triangle looking things that were flying over.
- 25:00Speaker 2: Its blazer lights that shot out of the sky. Oh yeah,
- 25:03Speaker 2: remember that?
- 25:04Speaker 1: These are what was that?
- 25:07Speaker 2: What are the drones? I mean, that's what's what I
- 25:09Speaker 2: love about the drones is I mean, aside from the obvious,
- 25:13Speaker 2: like you know, getting to imagine, fantasize it could be
- 25:16Speaker 2: they're chasing orbs and the orbs or whatever. What I
- 25:19Speaker 2: love about the drones is that it's another step in
- 25:24Speaker 2: shaking people awake, you know what I mean, because it's
- 25:26Speaker 2: like part of living in default reality, I think, is
- 25:31Speaker 2: you sort of lean into the idea that the government
- 25:36Speaker 2: is you could trust. You can trust the government, of course,
- 25:39Speaker 2: like you have.
- 25:39Speaker 1: Trust the people that make the weapons.
- 25:41Speaker 2: You could trust them short, yes, some of them, you know, yeah,
- 25:48Speaker 2: but ultimately we can trust these people. And so then
- 25:52Speaker 2: you have over fucking New Jersey experimental vehicles that people
- 25:57Speaker 2: are filming Welcome to Earth, bitch, do you see that?
- 26:00Speaker 2: And it's so funny people in New Jersey reacting to them.
- 26:06Speaker 1: The guy shooting into the sky at the drone.
- 26:09Speaker 2: Of course, I mean I'm surprised more people haven't.
- 26:11Speaker 1: Well, the problem with that you fucking idiots, is that
- 26:13Speaker 1: bullets fall, Okay, and they fall with almost the same
- 26:17Speaker 1: kind of velocity. I mean, I'm sure they lose, they
- 26:20Speaker 1: lose a lot of steam, but it's enough to kill people.
- 26:23Speaker 1: People have definitely died from bullets fall.
- 26:24Speaker 2: You know what else falls?
- 26:26Speaker 1: Drones?
- 26:26Speaker 2: Experimental fucking drones. The government's flying over fucking New Jersey
- 26:30Speaker 2: hoping those fuckers don't crash. They're apparently half the size
- 26:34Speaker 2: of a car.
- 26:36Speaker 1: Some of them are suburban sized, and these.
- 26:38Speaker 2: Are flying over houses. So it's just like, no, listen,
- 26:42Speaker 2: number one. Most of what you guys are seeing it's
- 26:45Speaker 2: stars or you're seeing commercial vehicles mostly, and the other
- 26:51Speaker 2: stuff we don't really know. And so at that point
- 26:54Speaker 2: you're like, wait a minute, I'm paying almost half of
- 26:58Speaker 2: my income and fucking tax is so you know what
- 27:01Speaker 2: the car sized mystery things flying over the cities are
- 27:05Speaker 2: and you don't know what that fucking is? What am
- 27:07Speaker 2: I paying you for? You know what I mean? You
- 27:10Speaker 2: may get a lot of money, man, you should know
- 27:13Speaker 2: what the drones are. And so but then when you
- 27:15Speaker 2: see what's his name, bold is.
- 27:17Speaker 1: It Bolden with the mustache?
- 27:20Speaker 2: Not Bolden? When you see I don't know the DoD
- 27:22Speaker 2: dudes up there in the way that they're just lying
- 27:26Speaker 2: their fucking asses off. Did you see the press secretary
- 27:29Speaker 2: talking about it and she's wearing a necklace that looks
- 27:32Speaker 2: like a UFO?
- 27:33Speaker 1: Is it Kareem Jean Pierre?
- 27:34Speaker 2: That lady not Jean Pierre? Is another one? It was
- 27:36Speaker 2: something one.
- 27:38Speaker 1: How do they just shuffle do people in without announced?
- 27:40Speaker 2: I don't think they got rid of Pierre?
- 27:43Speaker 1: Okay, I hope because most of them don't last as
- 27:45Speaker 1: long as Pierre. She's she's like the marathoner. Oh dude,
- 27:49Speaker 1: most of them they quit that job. They're like, fuck
- 27:51Speaker 1: this job. I just got a lie all the time, horrid, bold, horror.
- 27:55Speaker 1: Imagine like Dunkan. This is way you're gonna sell war
- 27:58Speaker 1: with Soudan. Okay, okay, here's the reason why the rebels,
- 28:01Speaker 1: children problems, problems, economy, pollution. You know, we gotta vaccinate them.
- 28:10Speaker 2: There's a lot of data. But I got then, what
- 28:13Speaker 2: about the data showing vaccinations are bad for you?
- 28:16Speaker 1: That data? These these people are in trouble and we
- 28:19Speaker 1: need to help them. We need to help them to.
- 28:21Speaker 2: War war, got it? Okay, no problem, Okay, I got
- 28:25Speaker 2: it out.
- 28:27Speaker 1: You just put on your Rachel glasses.
- 28:31Speaker 2: Rachel Madow glass.
- 28:33Speaker 1: Everybody's wearing them to look super serious.
- 28:35Speaker 2: Well, this is it's part of the costume, isn't it.
- 28:38Speaker 2: Like and you know, you know we also buy costumes.
- 28:41Speaker 3: Were saying this, Yeah, we are in olf costumes, but
- 28:46Speaker 3: you know, but yeah that I don't understand the Rachel
- 28:49Speaker 3: Maddow glasses phenomena, but I have done research into it
- 28:54Speaker 3: because I wanted to create a vision board of all
- 28:56Speaker 3: the people wearing those glasses.
- 28:58Speaker 2: And it's a thing. It's like a thing on the left.
- 29:01Speaker 2: They wear those fucking glasses. That identifies that you are
- 29:05Speaker 2: you have a certain set of beliefs if you're wearing
- 29:07Speaker 2: the Madou glasses. I mean, it's a real thing.
- 29:09Speaker 1: It is a real thing. Yeah. If you if you
- 29:11Speaker 1: have those glasses on and you're a Republican, you're an assassin,
- 29:17Speaker 1: You're guy who kills the people for a living. You're
- 29:20Speaker 1: you're a very strange person.
- 29:21Speaker 2: Dude, Isn't that But that's to me the invasion of
- 29:24Speaker 2: the body Snatcher's experience.
- 29:27Speaker 1: I love.
- 29:27Speaker 2: Have you seen that movie in a while, it's the remake.
- 29:30Speaker 1: I saw the remake, but it was a long time ago. Right,
- 29:32Speaker 1: it wasn't like five years ago. How long ago?
- 29:35Speaker 2: I think it's from the one I like is from
- 29:36Speaker 2: the seventies.
- 29:37Speaker 1: The Donald. Yes, yes, that one's amazing, amazing. Yeah right,
- 29:43Speaker 1: they point at you and make that noise.
- 29:45Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's it. Oh Southerly killing it like creepy.
- 29:51Speaker 2: His eyes are Yeah, that's it.
- 29:54Speaker 1: Bro. Imagine you imagine, you imagine that reality. And by
- 30:00Speaker 1: the way, not that hard. You know what's way harder
- 30:03Speaker 1: than that building a planet, right, there's plenty of planets. Yeah,
- 30:08Speaker 1: that is not that hard. That is essentially what happens
- 30:10Speaker 1: all the time in like the insect Kingdom, where they
- 30:13Speaker 1: get infested by another parasite that controls their brain.
- 30:16Speaker 2: There you go, dude, I went down a deep rabbit
- 30:20Speaker 2: hole of this ship because you know, I was like
- 30:22Speaker 2: looking right after Trump won, which, by the way, I
- 30:25Speaker 2: want to remind you, I'm sorry. I don't want to
- 30:27Speaker 2: pat myself on the back, But when we were hunting
- 30:28Speaker 2: for Bigfoot, do you remember I said to you, one
- 30:32Speaker 2: day you're going to get a president elected.
- 30:34Speaker 1: Did you say that?
- 30:35Speaker 4: No?
- 30:38Speaker 1: Back then, that would have been the least likely scenario.
- 30:41Speaker 1: I'm in the woods with the fear factor guy, we're
- 30:46Speaker 1: legitimately looking.
- 30:48Speaker 2: For bigfoot, legitimately.
- 30:50Speaker 1: Legitimately with bigfoot expert dude.
- 30:51Speaker 2: That was one of my favorite camping trips I've ever
- 30:53Speaker 2: had fun hunting for bigfoot. It's like because hunting for animals,
- 30:59Speaker 2: which I know you love, I have nothing against it,
- 31:02Speaker 2: but you still got to kill an animal. Hunting for bigfoot,
- 31:05Speaker 2: you just like look for a twig out of place
- 31:08Speaker 2: and you get to imagine he's nearby, and that it's
- 31:11Speaker 2: really fun. Squatching is fun.
- 31:12Speaker 1: Somebody asked me, if I saw a bigfoot, would I
- 31:16Speaker 1: kill it? Because if I could kill it, then I
- 31:18Speaker 1: could show people that it's real.
- 31:20Speaker 2: Hmmm interesting, interesting?
- 31:23Speaker 1: Would you know? Why would I kill bigfoot? Well, but
- 31:26Speaker 1: just like, why would you do that? It doesn't make
- 31:29Speaker 1: any sense just to prove that it's real. Well, guess what,
- 31:31Speaker 1: guess we can't prove it. There's no other way. It's
- 31:34Speaker 1: not like I tell you where it happened and you
- 31:36Speaker 1: fucking close off a thousand square miles and start pushing
- 31:39Speaker 1: in with soldiers. Well, if don't kill it, why would
- 31:43Speaker 1: you kill it? Stupid? I'm telling you where it is.
- 31:45Speaker 1: Why do you want me to shoot an arrow through it?
- 31:46Speaker 1: You know why did you just trust me and spend
- 31:48Speaker 1: a billion dollars on on drones? And imagine, like, why
- 31:52Speaker 1: did we spend all this money? Oh Joe said he
- 31:54Speaker 1: saw a bigfoot and so we weren't looking. But by
- 31:58Speaker 1: the fucking way, what it's been any money to go
- 32:01Speaker 1: look for bigfoot?
- 32:01Speaker 2: You can fly a swarm of drones over fucking New Jersey.
- 32:06Speaker 2: You could fly them in the Pacific Northwest, and we know,
- 32:09Speaker 2: once in fucking for all see this. You know, they
- 32:11Speaker 2: talk about democracy and sometimes I like to think about
- 32:15Speaker 2: what would actual democracy look like? And you know, it
- 32:18Speaker 2: wouldn't look like some dude getting in front of a
- 32:21Speaker 2: microphone and gas lighting your ass about experimental craft. It
- 32:25Speaker 2: would be like, all right, I'm just gonna tell you, guys,
- 32:27Speaker 2: we figured out anti gravity. That's anti gravity drones we
- 32:32Speaker 2: wanted to show you, and tomorrow we're gonna drop ketamine
- 32:36Speaker 2: on the neighborhoods. Democracy. But uh, but you know what
- 32:42Speaker 2: I mean, Like that would be true democracy versus what
- 32:46Speaker 2: we have right now, which is sort of democracy. It
- 32:50Speaker 2: does work, the voting works and all that stuff, but
- 32:52Speaker 2: ultimately are impact the non political classes, impact is very little.
- 32:59Speaker 2: In the poitical classes, impact is very little when you
- 33:02Speaker 2: consider now there's a security class. So you have the
- 33:05Speaker 2: politicians like Harry Reid trying to figure out what the
- 33:08Speaker 2: fuck is going on with the UAPs, and even they
- 33:11Speaker 2: can't do it because there's another level, and that level
- 33:15Speaker 2: is like, that's that those are the people controlling things
- 33:18Speaker 2: because they know the secrets. It's just so infuriating to
- 33:22Speaker 2: me that now they feel comfortable enough to fly whatever
- 33:27Speaker 2: the fuck these things are over a major city and
- 33:30Speaker 2: not tell us what they are and then say we
- 33:32Speaker 2: don't know what they are, because if the reality is
- 33:34Speaker 2: they don't know what they are, if we're going to
- 33:37Speaker 2: believe them, which I guess you're not, just not supposed to,
- 33:42Speaker 2: you know what I mean? I know I don't think
- 33:45Speaker 2: you're supposed I think at the point where they're just
- 33:46Speaker 2: telling you, it's like stars.
- 33:49Speaker 1: But let's be honest. If you are in possession of
- 33:53Speaker 1: the actual information, you know what it is. You know
- 33:56Speaker 1: it's China, or you know it's aliens, or you know
- 34:00Speaker 1: it's a combination of both, or it's US government, or
- 34:03Speaker 1: it's all three. Sure, maybe it's all the above. How
- 34:06Speaker 1: the fuck do you tell people that? How do you
- 34:08Speaker 1: tell people that? Why you're also governing, You're also doing
- 34:12Speaker 1: all these different things. You're you're very busy. How does
- 34:15Speaker 1: the president get on television and say, statist and gentlemen,
- 34:19Speaker 1: aliens are real. We are being visited on a regular
- 34:24Speaker 1: basis by non human intelligence that is far superior to
- 34:28Speaker 1: our own. Sure, we don't understand why they're here. We
- 34:31Speaker 1: have been working with them. We have back engineered their products,
- 34:35Speaker 1: and that's how you got fiber optics and capacitors and
- 34:38Speaker 1: all these things that sort of emerged after Roswell. Everything,
- 34:43Speaker 1: that's the most fun one.
- 34:44Speaker 2: You were buying your engineer. They culture religions, it's for
- 34:49Speaker 2: a good cause everything.
- 34:51Speaker 1: Yeah, you you We're a piece of the fucking factory, dude,
- 34:55Speaker 1: That's what we are, right, We're a piece of the
- 34:57Speaker 1: factory that doesn't recognize that there's a whole other build
- 35:00Speaker 1: and connected to this that's filled with machines.
- 35:03Speaker 2: We're a piece that's well, that's so okay. So that
- 35:07Speaker 2: is exactly what you want pieces of your factory to
- 35:11Speaker 2: think like. And that is why, at any moment anybody
- 35:15Speaker 2: can actually just turn the channel. You're not You're not
- 35:18Speaker 2: a piece of the fucking factory. Actually, you're the universe
- 35:23Speaker 2: and you're the universe who has been dude, I mean
- 35:26Speaker 2: look what they Look what they could do to lions
- 35:29Speaker 2: at a circus, deadly fucking thing. They can make it
- 35:33Speaker 2: jump through hoops, they can make it catch a frisbee. Right,
- 35:36Speaker 2: So think of this.
- 35:38Speaker 1: Of the time that's right when they can't those those
- 35:43Speaker 1: make for some wild Instagram videos.
- 35:45Speaker 2: Oh they do, and there is it's the assassination of
- 35:49Speaker 2: a fucking CEO. And by the way, like I am
- 35:52Speaker 2: not like assigning any kind of like I think it's
- 35:56Speaker 2: a slippery slope if we start publicly fucking executing CEO.
- 36:00Speaker 2: I was like, if you start the you know what
- 36:01Speaker 2: I mean, that's a that's a real slippery But I'll
- 36:04Speaker 2: tell you if you sort of look at the factory, Uh,
- 36:09Speaker 2: the way it works is like you're number one, you
- 36:12Speaker 2: really aren't supposed to identify the actual like what's causing
- 36:17Speaker 2: like a lot of suffering, Like you, Once you start
- 36:19Speaker 2: making those identifications, then uh, and you follow through with
- 36:25Speaker 2: some kind of action based on those identifications. Number one.
- 36:27Speaker 2: The action can't be the based on the rules of
- 36:30Speaker 2: the factory. Of course, the factory is going to create
- 36:33Speaker 2: up create rules. You can go out with your fucking
- 36:35Speaker 2: signs or whatever, if you're at the right place. Not
- 36:37Speaker 2: at Amazon where they arrested those people protesting, but there's
- 36:41Speaker 2: places in the factory where you can go and be like,
- 36:44Speaker 2: I need more oil. I'm squeaking, but only once in
- 36:48Speaker 2: a while, and only in the right way. It's a
- 36:50Speaker 2: peaceful protest, is what we call it. You do it
- 36:52Speaker 2: at the wrong time, it's a fucking insurrection, you know
- 36:55Speaker 2: what I mean. So the factory's got rules about how
- 36:58Speaker 2: we do this. So the moment you go outside of
- 37:00Speaker 2: those rules, the moment you like actually and to do that,
- 37:04Speaker 2: you have to somehow really think outside the factory. Then
- 37:08Speaker 2: then you see something like that happen, and then you
- 37:11Speaker 2: see the way the factory responds, which is the purp
- 37:14Speaker 2: walk they did with that dude. They've got fucking Seal
- 37:17Speaker 2: Team six walking that guy in.
- 37:19Speaker 1: He's handsome, he's a movie in a movie. If you
- 37:23Speaker 1: saw that handsome guy getting arrested and there was like
- 37:25Speaker 1: Seal Team six behind him protecting him, you'd be like,
- 37:28Speaker 1: that's no way they would do that. That's right, it's
- 37:31Speaker 1: just a regular killer. There's no way they would have
- 37:33Speaker 1: that many guys guarding that guy.
- 37:35Speaker 2: Well, they're not guarding that guy.
- 37:37Speaker 1: Look at that.
- 37:37Speaker 2: They're sending a fucking message. They're saying, listen, we will
- 37:40Speaker 2: surround you and like that. So because like what's really
- 37:45Speaker 2: scary about what he did is like, and I think
- 37:49Speaker 2: if if you want to like take murder, cold blooded
- 37:53Speaker 2: murder and just for a second call it activism, what
- 37:56Speaker 2: that guy did is he didn't just like, you know,
- 38:00Speaker 2: send a message which is really scary for people like CEOs,
- 38:04Speaker 2: which is saying listen, man, like you can't keep fucking
- 38:08Speaker 2: us with the insurance if you do, you're not safe.
- 38:14Speaker 2: And so that's scary as fuck because that's the CEOs,
- 38:17Speaker 2: of course, are the ones who pay for the lobbyists,
- 38:19Speaker 2: who pay for the laws. And so he sends a
- 38:21Speaker 2: message of a methodology, which again I think if we're
- 38:28Speaker 2: going to get into a better place using violence, I
- 38:35Speaker 2: just don't think that's the path. But just as an analysis, dude,
- 38:39Speaker 2: I would say, you could expect more of that to happen,
- 38:42Speaker 2: and that is going to lead to the Darth Vader
- 38:46Speaker 2: people coming out more.
- 38:47Speaker 1: You're not co signing it.
- 38:49Speaker 2: I'm not co signing it at all.
- 38:50Speaker 1: No, no, no, it's a realistic assessment there's something going on.
- 38:55Speaker 1: People are very upset, and they've been able to do
- 38:58Speaker 1: this to people for so long, deny people treatment for
- 39:01Speaker 1: so long.
- 39:02Speaker 2: Like you remember when your dad had to come downstairs,
- 39:05Speaker 2: Like you're fucking up, or you're like misbathing with your brother,
- 39:08Speaker 2: you're doing something really bad, you set something on fire.
- 39:11Speaker 2: Your dad comes downstairs, he's been at work, he's fucking pissed.
- 39:15Speaker 2: That's how you know you're really fucked. When people start
- 39:17Speaker 2: doing stuff like that. Then the dad has to come downstairs.
- 39:21Speaker 2: And when the dad comes downstairs, it looks like the
- 39:23Speaker 2: dudes and the Darth Vader outfits. All of a sudden,
- 39:27Speaker 2: you know, this facade for a second, they have to
- 39:30Speaker 2: stop the show, turn on the fucking lights. These guys
- 39:33Speaker 2: in fucking full body armor come out, spray chemicals into
- 39:38Speaker 2: your face and drag you away, and then all right,
- 39:41Speaker 2: start the show up again, start the show up again.
- 39:43Speaker 2: It gets memory hold. So that is an example of
- 39:47Speaker 2: what happens when the factory is imbalanced, and right now,
- 39:51Speaker 2: the factory is imbalanced. Dude, it's just that's the problem.
- 39:53Speaker 2: There's a reason we need the middle class. There's a
- 39:55Speaker 2: reason you need some path forward that is there's a
- 39:59Speaker 2: reason you need to be able to buy a fucking house.
- 40:01Speaker 2: And aside from like the human comfort and starting a
- 40:04Speaker 2: family and all that stuff, the moment you pull that
- 40:07Speaker 2: away from people, now what it's like? So wait there,
- 40:12Speaker 2: what am I supposed to do here? Now?
- 40:14Speaker 1: Again?
- 40:15Speaker 2: I am not advocating violence. I think that if we
- 40:21Speaker 2: keep doing violence, we're gonna keep getting violence. But it's
- 40:24Speaker 2: a really scary thing when shit gets so imbalanced, and
- 40:28Speaker 2: when you hear about like the insured health insurance, Like
- 40:31Speaker 2: I'm lucky because like I'm on this, I'm on crap
- 40:34Speaker 2: populis on Fox. I have incredible health insurance, dude. But
- 40:38Speaker 2: like you read about the people denying like really important medication,
- 40:44Speaker 2: really important procedures to people, sending them stacks of paper
- 40:52Speaker 2: explaining why we're not gonna pay. You know, I got
- 40:55Speaker 2: my colonoscopy recently. It costs me one hundred dollars, you know.
- 40:58Speaker 2: Actually they charge my insurance company nine thousand dollars.
- 41:02Speaker 1: Have you ever talked to Brigham Buhler about this? No,
- 41:04Speaker 1: he should, you know, because he understands it from top
- 41:09Speaker 1: to bottom. He can tell you exactly what's going on,
- 41:12Speaker 1: and he's talked about it on the podcast. But it's
- 41:15Speaker 1: you know, it's a giant machine. It's a giant money machine.
- 41:18Speaker 2: That's right.
- 41:19Speaker 1: That's really what it is. It's not really about making
- 41:21Speaker 1: you better. It's about it a giant money machine that's
- 41:24Speaker 1: making you better is what they sell. But it's about
- 41:27Speaker 1: making more money, that's right. And they can make incredible
- 41:30Speaker 1: amounts of money for surgeries that maybe you don't need. Yeah,
- 41:34Speaker 1: you know, I'm not saying everybody does it, but some
- 41:36Speaker 1: people do it. It's been it's this. There's a guy
- 41:39Speaker 1: that just got arrested recently. I don't know if you
- 41:40Speaker 1: heard about this guy. I sent this to Peter A.
- 41:43Speaker 1: T I could send to you, Jamie, or maybe you
- 41:45Speaker 1: could find it. This dude he was telling people they
- 41:50Speaker 1: had cancer and they didn't. And it was like a
- 41:54Speaker 1: ton of cases, and you'd give them chemo therapy, man,
- 41:58Speaker 1: and he'd make them like severely ill. Yeah, demon he
- 42:01Speaker 1: did it to like I don't know, I don't remember
- 42:04Speaker 1: the number because I think the number stunned me so
- 42:06Speaker 1: much I didn't want to remember it. But this guy
- 42:09Speaker 1: told a ton of people they had cancer, just scared
- 42:12Speaker 1: the fuck out of them, ruined their lives, dude, and
- 42:15Speaker 1: then gave them poison. Yeah, that's designed to kill cancer.
- 42:20Speaker 1: Ten years old. It could have been somebody said it
- 42:24Speaker 1: to me on Instagram. It was a news story. Oh
- 42:28Speaker 1: my god, he got forty five that's all he got
- 42:31Speaker 1: was forty five years, says.
- 42:33Speaker 2: P thirteen counts he's fifty. That's a that's a life sentence. Hmmm,
- 42:39Speaker 2: well yeah, man.
- 42:40Speaker 1: Now I don't know if this is the same guy,
- 42:44Speaker 1: maybe more doctors or you know, this is one of
- 42:46Speaker 1: the things that I found out. I was doing a
- 42:47Speaker 1: bit about this fertility clinic doctor that was using his
- 42:51Speaker 1: own jiz. That's not one there's not one case. Fucking
- 42:56Speaker 1: shit tone of cases, Like, I wonder how many of
- 42:58Speaker 1: these doctors were. There's there's creepy doctors, just like there's
- 43:04Speaker 1: creepy carpenters, Like just like there's you know, like some
- 43:08Speaker 1: some doctors don't give a fuck about people.
- 43:10Speaker 2: Why do they use their own jigs? They do they run.
- 43:12Speaker 1: They want all the babies, they want everyone to have
- 43:14Speaker 1: their baby. Oh so it's not just psychos. People aren't
- 43:17Speaker 1: coming in. No, there's women that went in with their
- 43:20Speaker 1: husband's jizz and he's like, I gottateruption, sweet hot, that's
- 43:25Speaker 1: what this guy did. He didude, he ran a fertility clinic.
- 43:28Speaker 1: And I think people started figuring out when twenty three
- 43:31Speaker 1: and Me came around, and this is just one of
- 43:33Speaker 1: these guys. There's been a ton of those guys. Yeah,
- 43:36Speaker 1: that fundamentally is the difference betwe men and women. Could
- 43:41Speaker 1: you imagine a clinic where a woman was getting other
- 43:47Speaker 1: people to carry her babies.
- 43:50Speaker 2: That's hilarious. Yeah, not a chance in the fucking world.
- 43:54Speaker 1: No woman wants that. Yeah, take my baby, you take
- 43:57Speaker 1: my baby. I trusted with you. You don't. The guy,
- 44:00Speaker 1: I don't even know how the baby have the most
- 44:03Speaker 1: precious thing. You could have it. You could have it,
- 44:05Speaker 1: you could have it. It's literally the fundamental difference between
- 44:08Speaker 1: men and women. That a guy could run a sperm
- 44:11Speaker 1: clinic and think that I'm.
- 44:13Speaker 5: Gonna get away with everybody having my baby, and he
- 44:16Speaker 5: doesn't give a fuck what happens those kids, because they
- 44:19Speaker 5: might fuck, they might fuck, they might not know, they
- 44:23Speaker 5: might find out.
- 44:23Speaker 1: To twenty three and me, their their cousins. Yeah, like,
- 44:26Speaker 1: holy shit, we're cousins. And then you find out everyone's
- 44:28Speaker 1: a cousin because his creep's been just using his own
- 44:31Speaker 1: jiz for thirty five years use.
- 44:33Speaker 2: That guy could be, like, you know, based on the
- 44:35Speaker 2: depopulation that's happening, based on population decline, that guy could
- 44:39Speaker 2: be like the next Gingist Khan, like in the future,
- 44:42Speaker 2: like we get the planets related to this, dude.
- 44:47Speaker 1: I think he's got a lot of catching up to
- 44:49Speaker 1: do to get it where Ginghis Khan's numbers were.
- 44:51Speaker 2: I mean, how much it is interesting. It's like, you know,
- 44:54Speaker 2: you you read Elon Musk is the top Diablo player
- 44:58Speaker 2: in North America right which I think in the world.
- 45:00Speaker 1: Dude, in the world, I think he's number one in
- 45:02Speaker 1: the world, which is fucking insane.
- 45:04Speaker 2: And dude, and I know you and I'm not trying
- 45:08Speaker 2: to high road you here, but unless you've played Diablo
- 45:12Speaker 2: for you can't understand what that means.
- 45:16Speaker 1: I absolutely accept that I do not understand what that means.
- 45:19Speaker 2: It is insane. Like it like when I was addicted
- 45:22Speaker 2: to that fucking game, Like I just wasn't sleeping because
- 45:26Speaker 2: you know, I had to do dad duty in the
- 45:27Speaker 2: day Diablo at night, and I was I sucked. So
- 45:31Speaker 2: when you realize this guy shooting rockets into space, making
- 45:37Speaker 2: e vehicles, starting a new fucking Department of the government
- 45:42Speaker 2: is also the top. It's so crazy. It's the one
- 45:48Speaker 2: time I actually let myself think maybe he actually is
- 45:52Speaker 2: an alien, because there is no there's just no way
- 45:55Speaker 2: unless he's paying people to do it form, which obviously
- 45:57Speaker 2: he's not. That That is inane, man, that is insane.
- 46:02Speaker 2: So dude, when you when you consider I don't even
- 46:05Speaker 2: know where I was going with that. I got lost
- 46:07Speaker 2: in Diabolo four just thinking about it.
- 46:09Speaker 1: Well, we're just talking about how he was the number
- 46:11Speaker 1: he's the number one player that elon how preposterous it is.
- 46:15Speaker 2: It's no, it's but I don't know.
- 46:17Speaker 1: I don't play Diablo four, so I really don't know
- 46:20Speaker 1: what that means. But I believe it's huge, you know
- 46:22Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like I do.
- 46:24Speaker 2: It's crazy. It's crazy because you know Diablo four, it's
- 46:27Speaker 2: all about your build. It's all about like eye hand
- 46:31Speaker 2: coordination is obviously a big part of it. But then
- 46:34Speaker 2: it's just and then you see the chopsticks catch the
- 46:39Speaker 2: fucking rocket.
- 46:40Speaker 1: Yeah, it's oh, that's a side job. Side job. He's
- 46:44Speaker 1: had more space innovation in the last five years than
- 46:47Speaker 1: NASA has since the Apollo missions.
- 46:51Speaker 2: It's amazing.
- 46:51Speaker 1: I mean I'm just saying that. I don't know if
- 46:53Speaker 1: it's a true number. But he gets rockets to land
- 46:57Speaker 1: and rockets get caught with robot arms what.
- 47:00Speaker 2: And that to me it's like, my god, you know,
- 47:02Speaker 2: you get those feelings like, Okay, I'm on the right timeline.
- 47:04Speaker 2: Because if the guy who's going to make us a
- 47:07Speaker 2: galactic civilization is also a master Diablo player, the number one,
- 47:13Speaker 2: we're in the right timeline.
- 47:17Speaker 1: It seems so unlikely that if it was in a movie,
- 47:20Speaker 1: I go, shut the fuck uf fuck up. He's not
- 47:23Speaker 1: the number one Diablo player. I don't care how smart
- 47:26Speaker 1: he is with rockets and electric cars and satellites that
- 47:30Speaker 1: give broadband internet and tunneling under the Earth and also
- 47:35Speaker 1: owns X.
- 47:36Speaker 2: It's suspicious, I must say.
- 47:39Speaker 1: It's And he's tweeting forty eight times an hour. He's
- 47:44Speaker 1: he's so prolific, Like what where? Where is your head?
- 47:48Speaker 1: One of the it's like he's in another dimension.
- 47:51Speaker 2: He could be he could be bilocating, like this is
- 47:53Speaker 2: one of the ideas, is where.
- 47:55Speaker 1: You actually physically is this? Is this a n avatar?
- 48:00Speaker 2: Okay, here's here's something I just.
- 48:02Speaker 1: Fully believes it's simulation.
- 48:03Speaker 2: By the way, Oh, he does oh fully. Well, not
- 48:05Speaker 2: only does he.
- 48:06Speaker 1: Say fully, but he says the chances of it not
- 48:09Speaker 1: being a he said this publicly, the same chances of
- 48:11Speaker 1: it not being a simulation or in the billions.
- 48:15Speaker 2: I mean, okay, So we talked about this in the
- 48:18Speaker 2: green room Willow the new quantum chip that Google wants, right, so,
- 48:24Speaker 2: and I think you and I both do the same
- 48:25Speaker 2: thing with our minds. I think anyone who was exposed
- 48:28Speaker 2: to the Atari twenty six hundred does this naturally, which
- 48:31Speaker 2: is like, we played the Atari twenty six hundred. Did
- 48:33Speaker 2: you have an Atari when you were a kid? Yeah,
- 48:35Speaker 2: and you remember how that blew your mind?
- 48:37Speaker 1: Right?
- 48:38Speaker 2: You control the thing with the joys. It was insane.
- 48:40Speaker 2: You can control the TV, like what the fuck? Yeah,
- 48:45Speaker 2: you'd been going to arcades, you could only play for
- 48:47Speaker 2: a second. You have enough quarters. Suddenly you could just
- 48:50Speaker 2: do it at home.
- 48:51Speaker 1: You can play till you've fainted.
- 48:52Speaker 2: Oh my god. And so we got to witness like
- 48:55Speaker 2: every phase of that technology to where it is now,
- 48:59Speaker 2: which is just fuck insane. And so you just take
- 49:02Speaker 2: the Atari to twenty six hundred model and apply it
- 49:04Speaker 2: to any new thing. And so you think, all right,
- 49:07Speaker 2: what's it going to look like in ten years. Then
- 49:09Speaker 2: you take musks neural lace or whatever, some kind of
- 49:13Speaker 2: brain human interface, mix that in with some quantum chip
- 49:19Speaker 2: that yeah, right now, right now, it's apparently unstable. It's
- 49:23Speaker 2: like you got to keep it like, you have to
- 49:26Speaker 2: keep it low. I don't know what it's called. It's
- 49:28Speaker 2: like colder than space or something like. It has to
- 49:30Speaker 2: be basically below freezing. And then suddenly it can do
- 49:36Speaker 2: things that all the supercomputers on the planet couldn't do.
- 49:39Speaker 2: But you know, there's a trajectory here between the human
- 49:43Speaker 2: brain and this technology, and it's getting closer and closer
- 49:45Speaker 2: and closer together, meaning that we are And you know
- 49:49Speaker 2: a lot of people are like, look, that's probably like
- 49:51Speaker 2: twenty years away. That is not that long we are
- 49:56Speaker 2: when did Team Wolf come out?
- 49:57Speaker 1: Man, I don't think it's anywhere near twenty years. I
- 49:59Speaker 1: think it's way closer than that.
- 50:01Speaker 2: That's right. So that that to me when you when
- 50:03Speaker 2: you just do the math and you realize humanity is
- 50:08Speaker 2: about to merge with a thing that is solving equations
- 50:13Speaker 2: that all the super take a supercomputer, what is it
- 50:16Speaker 2: double tillion years that's gonna be us. Yeah, and so
- 50:20Speaker 2: then to answer the simulation idea, of course we're in
- 50:24Speaker 2: a simulation. If we were just monkeys and now we
- 50:28Speaker 2: are using cubits using superpositioning to create some infinitely faster
- 50:35Speaker 2: way of calculating data, then obviously, once we get that
- 50:41Speaker 2: thing connected to our brain, we will be able to
- 50:45Speaker 2: simulate any reality we want. If this is truly our
- 50:49Speaker 2: past and you wanted to, like right now, the way
- 50:52Speaker 2: I remember something, having done acid for most of my
- 50:54Speaker 2: life is very foggy and kind of like my memory
- 50:58Speaker 2: isn't the best. Every once in a while have a
- 51:00Speaker 2: very clear memory of things. But with this tech, theoretically
- 51:04Speaker 2: it could reconstruct memories in your mind, and not just that,
- 51:07Speaker 2: put you into them and allow you to experiencing them
- 51:09Speaker 2: in real time, meaning in a few minutes you could
- 51:12Speaker 2: live your life over a thousand times easily. We could
- 51:15Speaker 2: just be in we could be in the future. And
- 51:18Speaker 2: this is a memory that some quantum computer of neural
- 51:21Speaker 2: interfaces allowing us to experience totally all encompassing memory. And
- 51:26Speaker 2: that would be a form of eternal life because in
- 51:28Speaker 2: every second, how many lifetimes could you live based on
- 51:32Speaker 2: merging with that kind of chip, right, And you wouldn't
- 51:36Speaker 2: want to know it was a memory. You know, you
- 51:37Speaker 2: might want to be like, you know what, let me
- 51:39Speaker 2: just live that life over again. I just want to
- 51:40Speaker 2: feel the whole thing.
- 51:42Speaker 1: Well, you know, that's one of the scariest things for
- 51:45Speaker 1: people to consider, is the there's this. I asked someone once,
- 51:51Speaker 1: would you rather die? Or would you rather live your
- 51:56Speaker 1: life over and over and over again forever? What they say,
- 52:02Speaker 1: They're like, oh my god, I couldn't do this forever
- 52:04Speaker 1: and ever and ever. I'm like, why not? Can you can?
- 52:06Speaker 1: You can do it now? Like it's not even hard,
- 52:08Speaker 1: Like are you enjoying life? Like? I love it. I'm
- 52:10Speaker 1: having a great time. I have great friends, have a
- 52:13Speaker 1: lot of fun, lots of amazing things. I have a
- 52:16Speaker 1: great family. I enjoy what I do for a living. Like,
- 52:19Speaker 1: why wouldn't I want to keep doing this? But the
- 52:21Speaker 1: thought of keeping even for me, the thought of me
- 52:24Speaker 1: doing this forever and ever and ever, is fucking terrifying. Yeah,
- 52:27Speaker 1: for some weird reason.
- 52:29Speaker 2: Well that was like Nietzsche had this whole thought experiment
- 52:32Speaker 2: which was I don't remember it's called something like infinite return,
- 52:36Speaker 2: but basically the way he put it is, you don't
- 52:39Speaker 2: live it again and again and again and make changes
- 52:41Speaker 2: within the echo. It's exactly the same over and over
- 52:46Speaker 2: and over again. And so in other words, like whatever
- 52:48Speaker 2: you it's just a it's a rerun over and over
- 52:51Speaker 2: and over again forever. That's what we're in. And his
- 52:54Speaker 2: point in that was like, therefore, if most of your
- 52:57Speaker 2: life you've been miserable, you're in hell. I know. But
- 53:07Speaker 2: he wanted to use that more as a kind of
- 53:09Speaker 2: to leverage people out of despondency. Now, make them understand,
- 53:14Speaker 2: get going out, make it happy now, because if we
- 53:17Speaker 2: do repeat.
- 53:19Speaker 1: Yeah, but dude, to by all this measure of talking
- 53:22Speaker 1: about like quantum computers and artificial intelligence and all these
- 53:26Speaker 1: emerging things, isn't it more likely than that a lot
- 53:31Speaker 1: of this shit that people are seeing is human created?
- 53:34Speaker 1: Because isn't it more likely that if we really do
- 53:37Speaker 1: get to some sort of quantum computer AI civilization, So
- 53:43Speaker 1: you attach quantum computer with AI, like twenty years from now,
- 53:47Speaker 1: what does that even mean? Did you just make a god?
- 53:49Speaker 1: And if you did it, can this thing just completely
- 53:53Speaker 1: travel between dimensions and understand like everything about every summatop
- 54:00Speaker 1: sub atomic particle that exists in the entire universe, Yeah,
- 54:04Speaker 1: all at once, like if that's the case, like why
- 54:06Speaker 1: do you need people anymore? And maybe you don't just
- 54:09Speaker 1: make it. Maybe Australiapithecus isn't around anymore. That that was
- 54:12Speaker 1: our guy, right, he was our guy. If it was
- 54:14Speaker 1: for him, we wouldn't be here allegedly.
- 54:16Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I think the model you could use
- 54:18Speaker 2: for that theory would be the the various. Like you
- 54:24Speaker 2: look at the an embryo and then you watch the
- 54:29Speaker 2: way that appendages change. Then you could look at it
- 54:33Speaker 2: that way, which is like, well, I mean you don't
- 54:35Speaker 2: want I met someone who had a tail, by the way,
- 54:38Speaker 2: like some people get born.
- 54:44Speaker 1: I think I was at that party.
- 54:51Speaker 2: Out of tail because because something happens, how.
- 54:53Speaker 1: Big was it? I didn't look at it.
- 54:56Speaker 2: Oh the cinnamon. It tastes like cinnamon.
- 54:59Speaker 1: And dudes are born with like a stub, right, you know,
- 55:04Speaker 1: like a regular tailed monkey bill this bitch ass tail.
- 55:07Speaker 1: But there's something to it.
- 55:08Speaker 2: Something there, so you know that if you yeah, there
- 55:12Speaker 2: it is, there you go.
- 55:13Speaker 1: It's so weird.
- 55:15Speaker 2: There you go.
- 55:15Speaker 1: That is like an ancient city. By the way, if
- 55:17Speaker 1: you're born with the tail, I'm not trusting you with
- 55:19Speaker 1: my taxes. Oh, I don't care if you got the surgery.
- 55:24Speaker 2: Well it's weird. Now there's like some of those tails
- 55:26Speaker 2: look better than others, but some.
- 55:28Speaker 1: Of them are clearly got to be fake. Yeah, some
- 55:30Speaker 1: people probably got surgically put the take off my big
- 55:33Speaker 1: toe and stick it out of my ass. I'm afraid
- 55:36Speaker 1: psycho out there.
- 55:36Speaker 2: I'll give you, dude, that your alliance fucking bit. I
- 55:40Speaker 2: still think about it sometimes. What would you do with
- 55:42Speaker 2: you out of tail? Like, give me a break if
- 55:44Speaker 2: you could get like if they you know, they they're
- 55:46Speaker 2: already getting these body suits you can wear to help
- 55:49Speaker 2: help you lift ship. They have the new things for
- 55:50Speaker 2: your legs that like, oh, you know, but dude, if
- 55:53Speaker 2: there was some cyborg tail that you could attach with
- 55:56Speaker 2: a belt.
- 55:57Speaker 1: What if there was a way if genetic engineering and
- 56:01Speaker 1: AI merge in a way like duncan, we can switch
- 56:04Speaker 1: you one time to anything you want. And one of
- 56:08Speaker 1: the options is you could become one of the nov
- 56:11Speaker 1: What are the nav the nave from the movie Avatar.
- 56:15Speaker 2: I'm not the blue people, not interesting.
- 56:18Speaker 1: Giant giant blue live in the forest and they're sleeping
- 56:21Speaker 1: the trees and they're connected to the earth and they
- 56:23Speaker 1: dance together.
- 56:24Speaker 2: And I'm gonna pass on the nav I don't ride dragons.
- 56:28Speaker 1: They ride dragons, bro, I don't. I don't know, man, dude,
- 56:32Speaker 1: I wanted to be one of them people so bad.
- 56:34Speaker 1: Everybody did. There's a there was literally a psychological condition
- 56:37Speaker 1: called avatar depression. How many people just let's just have
- 56:42Speaker 1: a guess. If I said we could do that to you,
- 56:46Speaker 1: how many people do you think would sign up? I
- 56:48Speaker 1: think the streets would be filled with giant blue people.
- 56:50Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if it's only once, I will.
- 56:53Speaker 1: Do you to stay. We can't do it again. It's
- 56:56Speaker 1: too dangerous. Your DNA gets followed, ill it melts down.
- 56:59Speaker 1: You can become a frog. We can't control it, but
- 57:01Speaker 1: we can switch you one time.
- 57:03Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not gonna be one time, man. It's it's
- 57:05Speaker 2: one time, one time.
- 57:07Speaker 1: Why because you either you either stay a person or
- 57:11Speaker 1: you become a werewolf or do it not be Imagine
- 57:15Speaker 1: imagine if that was an option. Every time the moon
- 57:18Speaker 1: goes black, you have to lock yourself in your house, yeah,
- 57:20Speaker 1: or you'll kill let people know are you? Or you
- 57:22Speaker 1: can be here buddy apart. You might just jump through
- 57:25Speaker 1: the windows of the second floor and roam the streets.
- 57:27Speaker 2: And it's gonna hurt when you change. It's a painful.
- 57:30Speaker 1: Screaming in your back. Remember the movie American We Wirreolf
- 57:33Speaker 1: in London when he's like on his back the best.
- 57:37Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Joe, fucking great movie.
- 57:40Speaker 2: Here's a movie you gotta watch.
- 57:42Speaker 1: Really.
- 57:42Speaker 2: The substance is that, dude, I don't want to ruin
- 57:46Speaker 2: it for people because it just came out, but it's
- 57:50Speaker 2: you ever watch any like Cronenberg movies, It's like, okay,
- 57:53Speaker 2: so it's it reminds me of that. It's got Demi
- 57:56Speaker 2: Moore in it, who, by the way, looks so great
- 57:59Speaker 2: and she's like, like, dude, it is so fucked up.
- 58:02Speaker 2: This movie is so fucked up, but it's got the effects.
- 58:07Speaker 2: Something that happens in it is very similar to an
- 58:09Speaker 2: American Werewolf in London, and it's basically if this star
- 58:13Speaker 2: is she's a fading star and so oh and he
- 58:18Speaker 2: kills it too, but like she's like a fading star.
- 58:20Speaker 1: So it's called the substance.
- 58:22Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's fucking trippy. Man, it's so good.
- 58:25Speaker 1: I'm gonna make a note dunk you love it. I
- 58:28Speaker 1: can't use I have to take my gloves off.
- 58:31Speaker 2: But it's really wild man, and it's very like there's
- 58:34Speaker 2: parts of it there's so disturbingly. Oh, maybe they're going to.
- 58:37Speaker 1: Show it substance.
- 58:40Speaker 2: No spoilers what you've seen it.
- 58:43Speaker 1: No, but like if you say it's that good, then
- 58:45Speaker 1: why okay, yeah, spoil what is it on again?
- 58:49Speaker 2: We had to get it on Prime?
- 58:50Speaker 1: Oh okay, so it's out, it's out.
- 58:52Speaker 2: But dude, like the the this is again? Like and
- 58:56Speaker 2: I think one of the fun things about being alive
- 58:59Speaker 2: right now and it's a fun time and one of
- 59:02Speaker 2: them might.
- 59:02Speaker 1: Be the funnest time anybody's ever happened.
- 59:04Speaker 2: Dude, really, because like, if I had to pick time periods, oh,
- 59:08Speaker 2: we picked the right one. Well, the second one I
- 59:10Speaker 2: would pick is, uh, when cocaine was legal.
- 59:16Speaker 1: I think you would have been dead already, I would.
- 59:18Speaker 2: Well yeah, but I mean I'm.
- 59:19Speaker 1: Telling you about my buddy Steve, who does ophthalmology. Uh,
- 59:23Speaker 1: he was his residency he did in Miami in the
- 59:27Speaker 1: eighties during the cocaine days. Oh my god, dude, he
- 59:31Speaker 1: said every day it was just gunshot wounds, and guys
- 59:34Speaker 1: would things stuffed up their ass. They would get coked
- 59:37Speaker 1: up and they'd shoves up up their ass to try
- 59:39Speaker 1: to come harder, and they just got things stuck up
- 59:42Speaker 1: their ass. That's Joe's Oh yeah, dude, my friends shout
- 59:47Speaker 1: out to Steve Graham. He told me, like all kinds
- 59:50Speaker 1: of they find light bulbs, guys that have light bulbs,
- 59:53Speaker 1: like they bought twisty little pine coney light bulbs and
- 59:56Speaker 1: stick those up there.
- 59:57Speaker 2: You know it's gonna break. Like, that's gonna break.
- 59:59Speaker 1: Part of fun, part of the fun. The risk. Well,
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: they're coked out of their fucking minds, dude, they don't
- 1:00:06Speaker 1: know what they're doing. This is the eighties in Miami,
- 1:00:09Speaker 1: holy shit. Yeah. And there was more more banks per
- 1:00:14Speaker 1: capita in Miami at the time. I don't know if
- 1:00:17Speaker 1: it's still the case, but more banks in Miami per
- 1:00:19Speaker 1: capita than anywhere else in the country because it was
- 1:00:22Speaker 1: all just moving.
- 1:00:23Speaker 2: In that yayo moving in Yoah.
- 1:00:28Speaker 1: It was a cocaine city.
- 1:00:31Speaker 2: That was where it was probably somewhat common to find
- 1:00:34Speaker 2: like a bag of coke on the beach, right, that
- 1:00:36Speaker 2: was where you have to get your kid. Your kid
- 1:00:40Speaker 2: would bring you a bag of coke like seashells.
- 1:00:46Speaker 1: You've seen cocaine cowboys, right, Yes, Oh my god, it so,
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: and both one and two both are equally good.
- 1:00:51Speaker 2: Dude, I've heard their story so insane. I mean again,
- 1:00:55Speaker 2: like the I would never I'm too much of a
- 1:00:59Speaker 2: pussy to that kind of lifestyle. But when you think
- 1:01:02Speaker 2: about the possibility that once we do get interfaced in
- 1:01:08Speaker 2: some way or another with these new computers that are
- 1:01:10Speaker 2: just right around the corner, we will be able to
- 1:01:14Speaker 2: simulate experiences like that, Yes, I will definitely I would
- 1:01:18Speaker 2: be into simulating the experience. And then when you consider, yeah,
- 1:01:22Speaker 2: but you're gonna simulate the experience, you know it's a simulation.
- 1:01:27Speaker 2: At some point you're gonna be like, you know what,
- 1:01:28Speaker 2: let's just turn that off where I know it's a simulation,
- 1:01:31Speaker 2: you know what I mean, we would all be doing
- 1:01:34Speaker 2: that shit like yeah, And I don't just mean like literally,
- 1:01:38Speaker 2: like I mean, at some point, you've done twenty thousand lifetimes.
- 1:01:42Speaker 2: You've experienced what it's like to be George Washington ginghis Khan.
- 1:01:45Speaker 2: You've experienced what it's like to be Joan of Arc,
- 1:01:48Speaker 2: You've experienced being one of Jesus' disciples.
- 1:01:51Speaker 1: Imagine if that's one person and that's your backstory.
- 1:01:54Speaker 2: That you've done all of those things, all the timeline
- 1:01:56Speaker 2: you're on, that's gonna be everybody. That's gonna be everybody, But.
- 1:01:59Speaker 1: It's gonna be well, I mean you put into it.
- 1:02:02Speaker 2: That's where it gets really is it? Is it gonna be?
- 1:02:06Speaker 2: And what is data? What is data? That's the real question,
- 1:02:09Speaker 2: because it's like how much of data can we recover
- 1:02:12Speaker 2: from light? And if we get faster than light travel,
- 1:02:15Speaker 2: can we get ahead of light? We know that when
- 1:02:16Speaker 2: we take a picture, that's just light. So if we
- 1:02:19Speaker 2: can get ahead of light, and we can go faster
- 1:02:21Speaker 2: than light, if we can go exponentially faster than light,
- 1:02:23Speaker 2: theoretically you're basically moving into the future. I guess then
- 1:02:28Speaker 2: couldn't you take pictures of Earth in the past. If
- 1:02:30Speaker 2: you could take pictures of Earth in the past, why
- 1:02:33Speaker 2: couldn't you recreate them with this new technology? There's your
- 1:02:36Speaker 2: time machine. You don't have to worry about fucking up
- 1:02:38Speaker 2: the timelines. You're just taking pure data, having it interpolated
- 1:02:43Speaker 2: by whatever the next computer is after quantum computers, right,
- 1:02:47Speaker 2: and then simulating that reality and traveling into it is
- 1:02:50Speaker 2: whoever you want to be. I mean, it's pure hedonism.
- 1:02:55Speaker 1: You know.
- 1:02:55Speaker 2: It's like, right now we think of hedonism as fucking
- 1:02:58Speaker 2: a great meal, making some money, nice time red wine.
- 1:03:03Speaker 2: But future versions of hedonism could really just be like
- 1:03:07Speaker 2: I just want to be a dinosaur for fifty years.
- 1:03:17Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean for sure, Well there's gonna be Look
- 1:03:19Speaker 1: think about how many people play video games most of
- 1:03:22Speaker 1: the day, Like how many young guys, so many young
- 1:03:25Speaker 1: guys with no girlfriends. One hundred percent you're playing some
- 1:03:28Speaker 1: kind of video all the time with your friends. There
- 1:03:31Speaker 1: you go, and you're probably having the most fun you're
- 1:03:33Speaker 1: ever gonna have in your life. So enjoy it. Yeah,
- 1:03:35Speaker 1: before the prison comes, why why just before you get
- 1:03:41Speaker 1: told that you're a toxic piece of shit?
- 1:03:44Speaker 2: You can't And that is, by the way that I
- 1:03:46Speaker 2: think there's a new phase in recently married dudes. Who
- 1:03:51Speaker 2: I think there's a new phase that happens. I think
- 1:03:53Speaker 2: I went through it, actually, which is like that experience
- 1:03:56Speaker 2: you had. And when I reminisce on my life in
- 1:03:59Speaker 2: the past prior to having kids, which I fucking love.
- 1:04:02Speaker 2: But when I reminisce on the past, the memories that
- 1:04:05Speaker 2: come to mind, a lot of them are like snorting
- 1:04:09Speaker 2: Rail's Academy and playing God of War. It was a
- 1:04:19Speaker 2: good time, but nothing like and I really mean this.
- 1:04:21Speaker 2: It sounds cheesy, but I really mean it. Like what
- 1:04:25Speaker 2: I was going for there, that's what I get just
- 1:04:28Speaker 2: on any given day when in the most.
- 1:04:31Speaker 1: Right you're looking for highs, and the highs of the
- 1:04:34Speaker 1: love of your family is above and beyond anything else
- 1:04:37Speaker 1: I ever tell you. Uh Chappelle's take on it, no,
- 1:04:40Speaker 1: he goes, not only did it increase the love in
- 1:04:43Speaker 1: my life, but it increased my capacity for love.
- 1:04:46Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right and wild and that can hurt you know,
- 1:04:49Speaker 2: this whole like romantic, hippie dippy version of love. It
- 1:04:53Speaker 2: doesn't I don't think that's quite what love is. A
- 1:04:55Speaker 2: fairy tale love, real love. It's like that that banshion,
- 1:05:01Speaker 2: Like you know that thing where you go from one
- 1:05:04Speaker 2: sized butt plug to the next. Yeah, yeah, you know, yeah, but.
- 1:05:10Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
- 1:05:11Speaker 2: It's like you're you're It stretches you out in a
- 1:05:14Speaker 2: way that nothing else could have. And when you consider
- 1:05:18Speaker 2: and when I think of like the past versions of
- 1:05:20Speaker 2: me and realize in this confused way, that's what you're
- 1:05:25Speaker 2: looking for. You're looking for that, and that impulse is
- 1:05:30Speaker 2: being subverted or captured by you know, holdonic technologies that
- 1:05:35Speaker 2: are paradoxically probably keeping you from having that experience. You know,
- 1:05:41Speaker 2: they're they're they're getting in the way of that experience.
- 1:05:44Speaker 2: But and then and then, like new dads, you got
- 1:05:46Speaker 2: to shed that skin, like you know what I mean,
- 1:05:48Speaker 2: Like I had to like fucking like let go of
- 1:05:52Speaker 2: that that it's such a habit, you know, that form
- 1:05:55Speaker 2: of life. Uh, video games, drugs, like you know what
- 1:06:01Speaker 2: I mean, it's.
- 1:06:01Speaker 1: A real it's a real you have to be responsible now.
- 1:06:04Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, but yeah, and that probably sounds like
- 1:06:08Speaker 2: a bummer to a lot of people out there, but
- 1:06:10Speaker 2: it actually this is the way, you know, and it
- 1:06:14Speaker 2: feels good when you're in it.
- 1:06:17Speaker 1: It's just hard to convince people to do it. And
- 1:06:19Speaker 1: that's why there's this the Elon's terrified of this population crash,
- 1:06:24Speaker 1: this idea that younger kids, young kids today are not
- 1:06:27Speaker 1: having babies, and as they're getting older, you're less and
- 1:06:30Speaker 1: less fertile, and so people are choosing to have kids
- 1:06:34Speaker 1: later in life they or not have kids. More people
- 1:06:38Speaker 1: are choosing to not have kids. And by the way,
- 1:06:39Speaker 1: I'm not judging to do whatever you do, whatever you want.
- 1:06:42Speaker 1: You should be able to do whatever you want this
- 1:06:44Speaker 1: life and no one should force you to fucking live
- 1:06:46Speaker 1: with somebody. You have a family, I don't know what
- 1:06:47Speaker 1: kind of anxiety you have or you're not. You're a
- 1:06:50Speaker 1: real legitimate loaner. You like being alone most of the time. Yeah,
- 1:06:54Speaker 1: but it's just like the amount of people that are
- 1:06:58Speaker 1: like super bummed out all the time is quite terrifying. Yeah,
- 1:07:03Speaker 1: if you really stopped and think about that, Just a
- 1:07:05Speaker 1: number of people that are just running through life bummed out.
- 1:07:08Speaker 1: I know. And there was some obviously polls, who knows
- 1:07:13Speaker 1: who the fuck is running them, but there was some
- 1:07:15Speaker 1: poll about liberal women and mental illness. It's so it's
- 1:07:21Speaker 1: such a meme. It's so unfortunate. Yeah, it seems to
- 1:07:25Speaker 1: like hold up to the meme. Yeah, so unfortunate. But
- 1:07:28Speaker 1: the numbers like crazy high.
- 1:07:31Speaker 2: Well, you know, man, this is the thing about mental illness, like,
- 1:07:35Speaker 2: and there's lots of studies that have been what do
- 1:07:37Speaker 2: they call it a fullia do? Right, that's the name
- 1:07:40Speaker 2: for if you are around a crazy person. It's an
- 1:07:43Speaker 2: you can actually like, if you're around a paranoid person
- 1:07:45Speaker 2: long enough, you really might start thinking the walls are
- 1:07:48Speaker 2: bugged if they're charismatic enough, right, sure, So yeah, there's
- 1:07:52Speaker 2: a quality to people who are charismatic and distorting reality
- 1:07:58Speaker 2: that is contagious, and then when you add to it,
- 1:08:02Speaker 2: it becomes a fashion statement.
- 1:08:03Speaker 1: Right.
- 1:08:04Speaker 2: So basically the idea is if you have some form
- 1:08:06Speaker 2: of mental illness, it's not like I should shame you
- 1:08:10Speaker 2: for it, obviously, like you need care, you need compassion.
- 1:08:13Speaker 2: But one of the really I think, very dangerous things
- 1:08:17Speaker 2: that has emerged into the zeitgeist is that compassion has
- 1:08:21Speaker 2: been confused. Like so in other words, what you might
- 1:08:26Speaker 2: call enabling, they are calling compassion because the idea would
- 1:08:30Speaker 2: be right now, you need to get better, Let's get
- 1:08:34Speaker 2: you fucking better, not like right now, this is just
- 1:08:38Speaker 2: how you are and you really don't have any hope.
- 1:08:41Speaker 2: So this is where And also I congratulate you on
- 1:08:45Speaker 2: your courage and all that's good. By the way, it
- 1:08:49Speaker 2: is courageous if someone has mental illness to announce it.
- 1:08:52Speaker 2: But when you go to the next step, which is
- 1:08:57Speaker 2: actually the fact that you're trying to lose weight, the
- 1:09:00Speaker 2: fact that you're trying to balance your life, that is
- 1:09:05Speaker 2: an aggression, you know what I mean, Like now you
- 1:09:08Speaker 2: are aggressing against all the people who have This is
- 1:09:10Speaker 2: a slap in the face to the people who have it.
- 1:09:12Speaker 2: What I'm saying is there's a culture where the normal
- 1:09:16Speaker 2: societal pressure to try to make yourself healthy. Which, by
- 1:09:20Speaker 2: the way, if you go back a long time ago,
- 1:09:23Speaker 2: if it's just like you and me and everyone in
- 1:09:26Speaker 2: the green room and we have to survive in the
- 1:09:27Speaker 2: wilderness or something like that, there really isn't time for
- 1:09:31Speaker 2: somebody to you know, it's dangerous if someone is doing
- 1:09:37Speaker 2: things that keep them sick, because we have to carry them,
- 1:09:39Speaker 2: you know what I mean. We have to carry them
- 1:09:41Speaker 2: through the fucking wilderness, and that means we might die.
- 1:09:43Speaker 2: That lowers our survival chances. So the idea is, you
- 1:09:51Speaker 2: don't want to enable people who are hurting themselves who
- 1:09:58Speaker 2: you don't want to enable people who have a a
- 1:10:00Speaker 2: chance to no longer like continue the patterns or to
- 1:10:03Speaker 2: take the medicine or whatever the fuck it is to
- 1:10:06Speaker 2: feel better. You actually want to help them feel better,
- 1:10:11Speaker 2: not keep them frozen in this thing which is a
- 1:10:13Speaker 2: demonstration of their enlightenment. Because that's the thing when health,
- 1:10:18Speaker 2: when sickness is health, and health is sickness. Well that's
- 1:10:23Speaker 2: the ant death spiral.
- 1:10:24Speaker 1: Dude.
- 1:10:24Speaker 2: Like, if you know that's how you create a very sick,
- 1:10:28Speaker 2: unhealthy world. And then you you know you you wouldn't
- 1:10:32Speaker 2: want like in other words, like if you met some
- 1:10:36Speaker 2: like raving paranoid person who was convinced that there were
- 1:10:40Speaker 2: nanobots inside of them that were reading their minds and
- 1:10:43Speaker 2: controlling their thoughts.
- 1:10:44Speaker 1: I told you that in private.
- 1:10:45Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Joe, it's just not goody you think like that.
- 1:10:48Speaker 2: That's scary. That's a sad place to be. We got
- 1:10:51Speaker 2: to get you out of there.
- 1:10:52Speaker 1: We got to get you on Reddit.
- 1:10:54Speaker 2: Exactly exactly.
- 1:10:56Speaker 1: And as are legit, dude, shut the fuck up.
- 1:11:00Speaker 2: Dude, the main the man, this is a this is well,
- 1:11:04Speaker 2: you know.
- 1:11:04Speaker 1: What I'm really scared of. Legitimately, I don't think nanobots
- 1:11:07Speaker 1: are controlling us right now, but that this technology that
- 1:11:10Speaker 1: they have where they have these like little miniature robots
- 1:11:12Speaker 1: that they can send into your bloodstream to repair tissue
- 1:11:16Speaker 1: and repair You've seen these, right, the concept highly once
- 1:11:22Speaker 1: that becomes an actual thing, Like what's to stop someone
- 1:11:25Speaker 1: from injecting a few of those inside of you at
- 1:11:29Speaker 1: the hospital next time you go in for a procedure, Right,
- 1:11:32Speaker 1: And if it gets to that point, like twenty years
- 1:11:34Speaker 1: from now, where they could do that they could just
- 1:11:35Speaker 1: like we chip dunkin.
- 1:11:37Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you very much.
- 1:11:38Speaker 1: Yeah, very important to find out where this guy goes. Yeah,
- 1:11:43Speaker 1: we have to track him everywhere he goes. And then
- 1:11:45Speaker 1: you're you're linked up to some GPS computer by these
- 1:11:48Speaker 1: fucking nanobots inside of your body.
- 1:11:50Speaker 2: And by the way, if you and I are talking
- 1:11:52Speaker 2: about this ship in elf suits, you better believe somebody
- 1:11:55Speaker 2: in the d O D somebody in the in then
- 1:11:58Speaker 2: raytheon or or are blocky. Martin is like mention these.
- 1:12:02Speaker 1: Little little robots. They do work for a while. After
- 1:12:07Speaker 1: a while they decay inside your body and they create
- 1:12:10Speaker 1: rampant inflammation, horrible rheumatourd arthritis, destroys all of your joints
- 1:12:16Speaker 1: because they die inside of you. Well, you know, it's
- 1:12:18Speaker 1: like we didn't.
- 1:12:19Speaker 2: Know that, I didn't know got to break a few
- 1:12:21Speaker 2: eggs to make an omelet man.
- 1:12:23Speaker 1: That we regret. Yeah, the Tuskegee experiment wet sorry sorry,
- 1:12:29Speaker 1: infected people with syphilis.
- 1:12:31Speaker 2: I'm really sorry to tell.
- 1:12:32Speaker 1: People they had syphilis. We're sorry.
- 1:12:34Speaker 2: In retrospect, it was a mistake, Like we shouldn't have
- 1:12:37Speaker 2: done that. I mean, the.
- 1:12:40Speaker 1: Again, crazy is that that's a real thing.
- 1:12:42Speaker 2: Or when they release some ship in the subways.
- 1:12:45Speaker 1: Whoopsie, hand lab whoopsie. That was a big whoopsies voice.
- 1:12:51Speaker 2: Gain of function research was no whoopsies. It is true, dude.
- 1:12:57Speaker 2: So when you this is where to me if you
- 1:13:00Speaker 2: do want to align with a classic paranoid state of consciousness,
- 1:13:03Speaker 2: the way you align with it is you you, and
- 1:13:06Speaker 2: without having to go on info Wars, without having to
- 1:13:09Speaker 2: go on red a conspiracy, just look at what is true,
- 1:13:13Speaker 2: like is verifiable? Like what do we know right now?
- 1:13:16Speaker 2: So what we know right now? There are unknown drones
- 1:13:20Speaker 2: hovering over New Jersey. We know that the president of
- 1:13:24Speaker 2: the United States has been incapacitated for years.
- 1:13:29Speaker 1: For years away Who saw that coming, dude, we were
- 1:13:34Speaker 1: conspiracy theorists.
- 1:13:36Speaker 2: Not anymore.
- 1:13:37Speaker 1: We were conspiracy theorists.
- 1:13:38Speaker 2: Now our shit is like mainstream, just basic journalism. The
- 1:13:42Speaker 2: fucking president of the United States has apparently been out
- 1:13:49Speaker 2: of commission for years.
- 1:13:51Speaker 1: By the way, I welcome him on my podcast. He
- 1:13:53Speaker 1: has an open invitation.
- 1:13:54Speaker 2: God damn it, that'd be awesome time and he would
- 1:13:57Speaker 2: he would be fun like I hope.
- 1:13:59Speaker 1: So now, dude, we'd have to give him a little
- 1:14:01Speaker 1: nap in the middle of the podcast. But then wake
- 1:14:03Speaker 1: him up, throw some water on him.
- 1:14:05Speaker 2: But when when like he's all there, when they got
- 1:14:09Speaker 2: the cocktail right and he's like dialed in, and he
- 1:14:13Speaker 2: turns into a warlock for a second, like you get
- 1:14:15Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
- 1:14:17Speaker 1: It's scary when the eyebrows move up, Dude.
- 1:14:20Speaker 2: It's that's like something that's alitch. That's like if you
- 1:14:24Speaker 2: were in a cursed tomb and that thing comes around
- 1:14:27Speaker 2: the corner. That is scary. Like his whatever the sore
- 1:14:31Speaker 2: on that comes out of him before he goes back
- 1:14:34Speaker 2: to sleep is terrifying. But even more terrifying is the
- 1:14:38Speaker 2: network of people around him. You know, you see those
- 1:14:42Speaker 2: it's really cool. The dancing dragons. It's like six dudes
- 1:14:47Speaker 2: in a dragon suit dancing and it looks like a
- 1:14:49Speaker 2: real dragon dancing. Biden is the dancing dragon of presidents.
- 1:14:54Speaker 2: He's got God knows how many people just fucking like
- 1:14:59Speaker 2: working so hard to get that thing to function just
- 1:15:03Speaker 2: in like brief moments. You only need him to function
- 1:15:07Speaker 2: for like ten minutes at a press conference. Twenty minutes here,
- 1:15:10Speaker 2: Get him off the plane, get him in the fucking building.
- 1:15:12Speaker 2: If we can pull that off, we'll have power for
- 1:15:14Speaker 2: a little bit longer, A little bit longer, dude, when
- 1:15:17Speaker 2: you consider that we apparently live in a democracy. You
- 1:15:22Speaker 2: elect this dude who makes decisions because in some way,
- 1:15:25Speaker 2: shape or for me, it aligns with what you want
- 1:15:27Speaker 2: the country to be, and the people fucking puppeteering that
- 1:15:31Speaker 2: poor old man are just like, no, actually, fuck you,
- 1:15:34Speaker 2: he's not going to make any fucking decisions because he's incapacitated.
- 1:15:38Speaker 2: He's gone gone with a fucking wind. And now we're
- 1:15:42Speaker 2: in control and you didn't vote for us. That is terrifying.
- 1:15:46Speaker 2: That is so that's it. In a way, that's worse
- 1:15:50Speaker 2: than a coup, because at least with a coup, you
- 1:15:53Speaker 2: see the military, they come in, the tanks, are in
- 1:15:55Speaker 2: front of the White House. Some dude is suddenly the leader,
- 1:15:58Speaker 2: and you know it's not the you voted for.
- 1:16:01Speaker 1: Well, it was certainly by definition it was a coup
- 1:16:04Speaker 1: against Biden.
- 1:16:06Speaker 2: Oh with Kamala. Yeah, Oh yeah, yeah, I.
- 1:16:08Speaker 1: Mean by isn't that by definition? Does a coup have
- 1:16:11Speaker 1: to be military?
- 1:16:13Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, that was the definition of a coup.
- 1:16:15Speaker 2: I think a coup is just when you is it just.
- 1:16:17Speaker 1: Like some sort of a conspiracy to.
- 1:16:21Speaker 2: Overthrow the leader and installing a leader.
- 1:16:24Speaker 1: That's it, right.
- 1:16:25Speaker 2: It does have to be violent, that's right, and and
- 1:16:27Speaker 2: what a brilliant cue.
- 1:16:29Speaker 1: It does have to be violent, sudden violent.
- 1:16:33Speaker 2: I guess we have to redefine that.
- 1:16:35Speaker 1: Yeah, because again it's interesting. Is there any other coup
- 1:16:39Speaker 1: a tat?
- 1:16:40Speaker 2: Maybe?
- 1:16:41Speaker 1: Right? I know it comes from that, but.
- 1:16:43Speaker 2: Is there a difference between a coup and a coup tas?
- 1:16:47Speaker 1: I think that's the actual definition. It's the same thing. Yeah, yeah,
- 1:16:54Speaker 1: it's it's essentially we shortened it, but so it's it.
- 1:17:00Speaker 1: It does say violent. But if there's a bunch of
- 1:17:03Speaker 1: people that conspire behind the scenes and they force you out,
- 1:17:08Speaker 1: and your wife doesn't want you to get forced out,
- 1:17:10Speaker 1: and then there's all these arguments, and then you wear
- 1:17:13Speaker 1: a maga hat and then your wife wears red when
- 1:17:17Speaker 1: she votes. Like your wife gives a speech where she's
- 1:17:23Speaker 1: mocking Kamla Harris, she's talking about joy and like the joy,
- 1:17:27Speaker 1: like just nonsensical fucking word salad.
- 1:17:31Speaker 2: Dude, I know I saw that. It's like they're so
- 1:17:33Speaker 2: pick it's kind of a coup. It seems like it's
- 1:17:35Speaker 2: kind of a coup. And also the right thing to do.
- 1:17:38Speaker 2: That guy should not be he might have won. I mean,
- 1:17:42Speaker 2: it was the right thing to do in terms of like,
- 1:17:43Speaker 2: you can't have a guy who's just a figurehead. That's
- 1:17:48Speaker 2: not what the deal is.
- 1:17:49Speaker 1: The deal is this guy is going to be doing
- 1:17:53Speaker 1: his best to look out for us and to make
- 1:17:55Speaker 1: sure that he navigates this world of finance and environment
- 1:17:59Speaker 1: and international relations perfectly where he doesn't blow anything up
- 1:18:03Speaker 1: and it makes our economy happen. Yeah, go go, that's
- 1:18:06Speaker 1: the that's the deal.
- 1:18:07Speaker 2: Yeah. Well but the again, like that you can't like
- 1:18:11Speaker 2: have only a mask, like who's running the deal? Well
- 1:18:14Speaker 2: that was so okay. So again it's like and this
- 1:18:17Speaker 2: is the fantasy of any hippie or whatever. So the
- 1:18:20Speaker 2: idea is predicted in the New Age movement, and I
- 1:18:26Speaker 2: think you'd argue in a lot of religions is the
- 1:18:29Speaker 2: consciousness shift is happening, the Age of Aquarius, whatever the
- 1:18:32Speaker 2: fuck you want to call it, consciousness shift. And so
- 1:18:35Speaker 2: the idea is that what we're witnessing is essentially the
- 1:18:42Speaker 2: the collapse of a way of doing things. Uh, that
- 1:18:47Speaker 2: is collapsing, and as it collapses, it starts making big mistakes.
- 1:18:51Speaker 2: One big mistake would be people figure out that we
- 1:18:57Speaker 2: have had a president who is basically incapacitated, meaning we
- 1:19:03Speaker 2: don't really need a president. The whole model starts falling apart.
- 1:19:08Speaker 2: Also when you realize like they like if you watch
- 1:19:13Speaker 2: basketball or skateboarding, watch skateboarding now versus skateboarding when people
- 1:19:19Speaker 2: started skateboarding, like the tricks like people are doing now
- 1:19:23Speaker 2: versus what they used to do, right, and you see
- 1:19:25Speaker 2: how quickly people when something's fun or important, how quickly
- 1:19:28Speaker 2: it evolves right, right, So the coup is problematic in
- 1:19:33Speaker 2: that again, you know a coup has happened. The ultimate
- 1:19:37Speaker 2: coup is to have a figurehead. Now you know, it's
- 1:19:44Speaker 2: a hacky trope. I guess the idea being that, like
- 1:19:47Speaker 2: every president is just a fucking puppet, right, But the
- 1:19:51Speaker 2: problem with that puppet is that, like these are puppets
- 1:19:55Speaker 2: who actually do have power, they will make decisions even
- 1:19:57Speaker 2: if there's a lot of pressure from godd knows whatever.
- 1:20:00Speaker 2: The web of unknown people is that tries to like
- 1:20:03Speaker 2: grab the steering wheel, they can say no. So that's
- 1:20:07Speaker 2: a problem. So if I want to control the steering
- 1:20:10Speaker 2: wheel completely, dude, what's better than an old man who
- 1:20:17Speaker 2: has dementia because I could tell him shit happened that
- 1:20:20Speaker 2: didn't happen. I could show him news sources that aren't
- 1:20:23Speaker 2: even real, you know what I mean. I could literally
- 1:20:26Speaker 2: like it.
- 1:20:26Speaker 1: Just probably pretends to be able to read. His eyes
- 1:20:29Speaker 1: are probably.
- 1:20:29Speaker 2: Gone, dude, absolutely, probably pretends absolutely. And then the other
- 1:20:35Speaker 2: side of it that aside from it, it's a coup.
- 1:20:38Speaker 2: It's completely unconstitutional. It's a fucked up takeover of the
- 1:20:43Speaker 2: US government. If you just look at the abuse of like,
- 1:20:48Speaker 2: the right thing to do when you have a president,
- 1:20:51Speaker 2: a bus driver whoever, who's got seenile dementia is to say, hey, guys,
- 1:20:58Speaker 2: he's really sick and he can't do the job anymore,
- 1:21:01Speaker 2: and we have to find somebody else to do the job. Now,
- 1:21:04Speaker 2: that's the right thing to do. But these motherfuckers are like, no, no, no, no, no, no,
- 1:21:08Speaker 2: we'll lose our jobs. We're in the fucking case exactly.
- 1:21:11Speaker 1: They're like, we don't want a primary because if another
- 1:21:13Speaker 1: Democrat comes in, if Shapiro comes in, if Newsom comes in,
- 1:21:17Speaker 1: whole new cabinet.
- 1:21:18Speaker 2: That's right.
- 1:21:19Speaker 1: Everybody. Everybody knew that. Everybody wants to keep their job.
- 1:21:22Speaker 2: It's so funny that.
- 1:21:25Speaker 1: Even if you are sad that Trump won and you
- 1:21:28Speaker 1: wish Kamala Harris won. If she did win, it would
- 1:21:32Speaker 1: be the first time that anybody won without winning a primary, right,
- 1:21:35Speaker 1: And that's kind of crazy, and it's not a good
- 1:21:37Speaker 1: precedent to say, it's not good to let people weasele
- 1:21:41Speaker 1: around the system that we have in place. And by
- 1:21:44Speaker 1: having a vice president and then immediately appointing them as
- 1:21:47Speaker 1: the Democratic candidate, that's kind of illegal. It seems like
- 1:21:51Speaker 1: it's kind of illegal. Is it illegal?
- 1:21:53Speaker 2: Well, dude, I mean, should it be illegal?
- 1:21:55Speaker 1: How about let me say this, that should be illegal.
- 1:21:58Speaker 6: Right.
- 1:21:58Speaker 1: You should have to have a vote from the people
- 1:22:01Speaker 1: to decide who their democratic elected person who's going to
- 1:22:05Speaker 1: run for president is, right, that's the whole deal. Yeah,
- 1:22:09Speaker 1: maybe people didn't vote for you when you were running
- 1:22:13Speaker 1: for president, which is a fact, and so then when
- 1:22:16Speaker 1: you ran for vice president or when he chose you
- 1:22:18Speaker 1: as vice president, all of a sudden, we're supposed to
- 1:22:20Speaker 1: pretend that you're a really good candidate for president when
- 1:22:23Speaker 1: like we let's find out what the people think. If
- 1:22:26Speaker 1: you guys believe that she's the best person for the job,
- 1:22:29Speaker 1: the whole idea is supposed to be sell it and
- 1:22:31Speaker 1: then people vote, like really vote, actually votes don't fuck
- 1:22:35Speaker 1: with the vote. Yeah, don't the mail in ballots seem
- 1:22:38Speaker 1: kind of odd. Let's not do that. Yeah, Nixon was
- 1:22:40Speaker 1: talking about how they could be rigged in the seventies. Yeah,
- 1:22:43Speaker 1: let's just do it in person like we always do.
- 1:22:45Speaker 2: That's right, man, I'm just vote. The idea is like,
- 1:22:49Speaker 2: if I'm a kidnapper and I kidnap you, and I
- 1:22:54Speaker 2: don't know, knock you out or something, you come to
- 1:22:56Speaker 2: and I explain we're married, I need to pull that off.
- 1:22:59Speaker 2: We're now married. I've just kidnapped somebody, but now they
- 1:23:02Speaker 2: think that we're married. What I'm saying is, you know
- 1:23:07Speaker 2: what I mean, if you're gaslighting, you really need to
- 1:23:09Speaker 2: execute perfectly gaslighting. And so the problem with the and
- 1:23:15Speaker 2: I think this is the buried fucking headline in the drones,
- 1:23:18Speaker 2: in the Kamala coup, the president with now dementia, is
- 1:23:25Speaker 2: that all of these actions taken by the federal government
- 1:23:31Speaker 2: have not just corroded people's trust in the federal government,
- 1:23:36Speaker 2: but potentially like annihilated. Meaning now you know, if I'm
- 1:23:41Speaker 2: kidnapped by somebody and they're like, no, here's why I
- 1:23:44Speaker 2: kidnapped you. Oh God, there's that great movie where like
- 1:23:46Speaker 2: somebody ends up in someone's survival bunker and you wonder,
- 1:23:50Speaker 2: is it really the end of the world, or there's
- 1:23:51Speaker 2: this person kidnapped. He's saying, you can't go out there.
- 1:23:53Speaker 2: But it's like the idea is the moment if I've
- 1:23:57Speaker 2: been kidnapped and I actually buy into your shit, that's
- 1:24:00Speaker 2: going to create a lot less anxiety for me. But
- 1:24:03Speaker 2: the moment your kidnapped bee stops believing you. WHOA, that's
- 1:24:10Speaker 2: not fun for anybody. And right now I feel like
- 1:24:12Speaker 2: that's the general mood is people just don't trust.
- 1:24:16Speaker 1: At like people that do have Stockholm syndrome.
- 1:24:19Speaker 2: That's it, dude, that's it. That's it.
- 1:24:21Speaker 1: That's it. Those are the people that are still getting boosted,
- 1:24:24Speaker 1: and I am up to date. I have all nine
- 1:24:26Speaker 1: of my boosters.
- 1:24:26Speaker 2: Jesus Christ.
- 1:24:27Speaker 1: I got boosters in their eyeballs. You can see them
- 1:24:29Speaker 1: swimming around behind their eyeballs and eventually they're going to
- 1:24:32Speaker 1: be just pointed. That is.
- 1:24:42Speaker 2: Six feet did dad.
- 1:24:43Speaker 1: That's what it felt like, man, That's what it felt
- 1:24:45Speaker 1: like being unvaccinated in the pandemic. Well, it felt like
- 1:24:48Speaker 1: like some people looked at you like you were the
- 1:24:51Speaker 1: dirty Like I heard dudes. I know, I know them.
- 1:24:55Speaker 1: I've hung out with them, and they were calling people playgrats,
- 1:24:59Speaker 1: calling unvaccinated people playgrass.
- 1:25:01Speaker 2: Listen, this is and you know, maybe you're not supposed
- 1:25:06Speaker 2: to do this, Like when you're saying, like you try
- 1:25:07Speaker 2: to find the compassionate way of looking at Kamala Harris.
- 1:25:11Speaker 1: I try to find that with everybody. Man. Is that
- 1:25:15Speaker 1: as like an exercise that I've been doing more and
- 1:25:18Speaker 1: more over the last few years. I try to push
- 1:25:21Speaker 1: it all day long. Yeah, there's so many things to
- 1:25:25Speaker 1: get upset about, but there's also there's so there's so
- 1:25:29Speaker 1: many good things in the world too, and we can't
- 1:25:31Speaker 1: fall into the We're not designed to soak up eight
- 1:25:35Speaker 1: billion people worth of bad news. We're just not designed
- 1:25:38Speaker 1: that way, that's right. And if you suck all that
- 1:25:41Speaker 1: stuff in, you're gonna have a lot of negativity in
- 1:25:45Speaker 1: your life. And it's not about forgiving people for like
- 1:25:49Speaker 1: even like CNN people that are spitting out propaganda like
- 1:25:53Speaker 1: your demise is self created. You will be punished by
- 1:25:57Speaker 1: your own doings. That world is to respond to all.
- 1:26:01Speaker 1: Have you seen this crazy interview where Don Lemon interviewed
- 1:26:04Speaker 1: some dude on the street, No, you haven't seen this now.
- 1:26:07Speaker 1: It's so funny because Don Lemons doing like these on
- 1:26:09Speaker 1: the street interviews, and he's talking to this this guy
- 1:26:13Speaker 1: about the news, and the guy is essentially telling Don Lemon, like,
- 1:26:17Speaker 1: I don't trust all these sources you're saying. He's like, look,
- 1:26:20Speaker 1: heuri it is Washington Post. I forget what the subject was,
- 1:26:22Speaker 1: but he got Don Lemon to say, I don't listen
- 1:26:26Speaker 1: to mainstream news either. What yeah, yeah, yeah, play this,
- 1:26:31Speaker 1: play this from the beginning because this is so crazy.
- 1:26:37Speaker 1: Always the real president.
- 1:26:38Speaker 7: Of the life, too, thinks Donald Trump.
- 1:26:40Speaker 6: One.
- 1:26:41Speaker 7: I believe Democratic lawmakers and Washington are calling Elon Musk
- 1:26:44Speaker 7: President Donald.
- 1:26:46Speaker 1: This is vice president or the head of communication.
- 1:26:48Speaker 7: What's what's what's what's Wait a second, No, no one
- 1:26:51Speaker 7: said that.
- 1:26:52Speaker 2: Really if you not watched them paid attention to.
- 1:26:54Speaker 7: Not I'm paying attention to what I'm doing during my
- 1:26:56Speaker 7: day so I can try and get a better lie.
- 1:26:58Speaker 1: Okay, do you have your phone with you? I don't
- 1:27:00Speaker 1: to Google right now? Yes, tell me President Musk can
- 1:27:02Speaker 1: see what comes from No, but that's already a loaded question,
- 1:27:05Speaker 1: you realize.
- 1:27:05Speaker 2: Tell me give me the sources.
- 1:27:06Speaker 7: Oos business insider. We don't trust any of these. The
- 1:27:10Speaker 7: common man doesn't trust any of this. ABC News, Washington Post,
- 1:27:13Speaker 7: New York Keeping, the Atlantic.
- 1:27:15Speaker 1: Oh, I don't trust any of these. I don't trust
- 1:27:17Speaker 1: any of them. Okay, I don't trust any of these.
- 1:27:19Speaker 7: We're the common man. We don't trust any of these.
- 1:27:22Speaker 7: No one trust is the government. No one trusts the
- 1:27:24Speaker 7: common News. We don't trust you that anymore independent news.
- 1:27:27Speaker 7: We are the ones that own the news. Now, people
- 1:27:30Speaker 7: trust me, they don't trust MSNBC because I can actually
- 1:27:34Speaker 7: one of them.
- 1:27:35Speaker 1: I can't disagree with you. Okay. Well, that people come
- 1:27:38Speaker 1: to me, I only watched I don't watch corporate media
- 1:27:41Speaker 1: any right. Oh, he said a lot of people coming
- 1:27:43Speaker 1: to him. I misunderstood. I got a heart on.
- 1:27:45Speaker 2: I saw that dude that is indible.
- 1:27:48Speaker 1: Well, that guy just geniusly broke down this illogical assumption
- 1:27:53Speaker 1: that because it's on these accepted sources, it must be true. Ago,
- 1:27:57Speaker 1: he's president Musk. Maybe we have of the good guy
- 1:28:01Speaker 1: super genius on our side, and this idea that he's
- 1:28:04Speaker 1: doing it for money, Hey, you fucking half wits. He
- 1:28:07Speaker 1: has all the money. Yeah, he has more money than anybody. Right,
- 1:28:12Speaker 1: He's simultaneously running multiple businesses that are at the peak
- 1:28:17Speaker 1: the cutting edge of technology. Sure, and shut the fuck
- 1:28:21Speaker 1: up and let him cook. But you let him cook.
- 1:28:23Speaker 2: Also, though, when you realize like this is like, you know,
- 1:28:29Speaker 2: when the DNC starts astroturfing, read it, when the DNC
- 1:28:33Speaker 2: starts astroturfing four chan, when the DNC started doing that
- 1:28:37Speaker 2: using all that fucking money. And it's so funny because
- 1:28:40Speaker 2: the astroturfing after she lost.
- 1:28:42Speaker 1: Or just stopped explained astroturfing.
- 1:28:44Speaker 2: So the idea is, like I infiltrate message boards, post
- 1:28:49Speaker 2: political messages disguised as like somebody just putting a post up.
- 1:28:53Speaker 2: I try to redirect the conversation or essentially imply a
- 1:28:59Speaker 2: consensus doesn't exist. And so there's ways of manipulating the algorithm.
- 1:29:03Speaker 2: Apparently on the DNC's discord server, they were talking about
- 1:29:07Speaker 2: the best ways and times to post on Reddit to
- 1:29:10Speaker 2: attempt to move the fucking needle.
- 1:29:11Speaker 1: So it's kind of amazing, isn't it.
- 1:29:13Speaker 2: It should be illegal. It's so fucked up if like
- 1:29:18Speaker 2: you are being propaganda, Like if I don't know, we
- 1:29:21Speaker 2: did a renegade rogue commercial for nicotine pouchers on Instagram,
- 1:29:26Speaker 2: you have to say this is a sponsored post. So
- 1:29:28Speaker 2: why is it that if you work for the DNC
- 1:29:30Speaker 2: or volunteer for any state entity, you don't have to say, also,
- 1:29:36Speaker 2: I'm doing this as a volunteer for the DNC, That's
- 1:29:38Speaker 2: why I posted this. You don't have to do that.
- 1:29:40Speaker 2: So that's invasion of the body snatchers. That's the lat
- 1:29:44Speaker 2: I'm pretending to be a normal person. I'm infecting the
- 1:29:49Speaker 2: data sphere with propaganda, and if I do it enough,
- 1:29:53Speaker 2: it will create the illusion that this is the consensus.
- 1:29:57Speaker 2: And the reason you want to create that illusion is
- 1:29:59Speaker 2: because people like to sync up. That's what they know.
- 1:30:03Speaker 1: You love to sink up, and really smart people like
- 1:30:05Speaker 1: to get really good at sinking up. They like to
- 1:30:08Speaker 1: get really good at it, and really good at correcting
- 1:30:10Speaker 1: others who don't sync up correctly sync up. Yeah, and
- 1:30:14Speaker 1: you know what it is. It's just dorks. It's dorks,
- 1:30:17Speaker 1: and dorks have found a thing, kind of thing. Maybe
- 1:30:20Speaker 1: your thing could have been chess, it's not. It's politics.
- 1:30:22Speaker 1: Maybe you know what I mean, Like, whatever your thing is,
- 1:30:26Speaker 1: that's what's really going on. And your denial of objective
- 1:30:30Speaker 1: reality in order to win it exposes you. It exposes
- 1:30:36Speaker 1: you to people in this new world that are recognizing
- 1:30:42Speaker 1: that we are the only people that have ever gone
- 1:30:45Speaker 1: through this, and we are in this insane moment of
- 1:30:50Speaker 1: realization about how much we've been bullshitted and manipulated in
- 1:30:55Speaker 1: the past, how much of all of our resources are
- 1:31:00Speaker 1: going to things that we would never agree to, and
- 1:31:03Speaker 1: how much of this chaos is being pushed upon us
- 1:31:07Speaker 1: by people who are profiting from it in a fucking
- 1:31:10Speaker 1: spectacular way that's almost indescribable, insane amounts of money in
- 1:31:18Speaker 1: control of the narrative. And it's not working.
- 1:31:21Speaker 2: It's not working.
- 1:31:23Speaker 1: It's not working. You and I and Jamie in a
- 1:31:27Speaker 1: fucking room, Yeah, are working, right, that's not working. What
- 1:31:33Speaker 1: they're doing is not working because people are getting information
- 1:31:36Speaker 1: from multiple sources now, and the sources that aren't reliable,
- 1:31:41Speaker 1: like that guy listed off, they're dying off. You know,
- 1:31:44Speaker 1: the New York Times app is more people use it
- 1:31:47Speaker 1: for wordle than anything like New York Times has essentially
- 1:31:49Speaker 1: become a gaming company. See if that's true. I don't
- 1:31:52Speaker 1: want to get suit. I'm pretty sure it's true.
- 1:31:55Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure it's it's a separate app.
- 1:31:59Speaker 1: Is it a separate app?
- 1:32:00Speaker 2: Pretty sure?
- 1:32:00Speaker 1: Or is it that world? Get I do.
- 1:32:05Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 1:32:05Speaker 1: I'd is that what it is? So that word gets
- 1:32:10Speaker 1: more activity for the company, that's what essentially. Yeah, there
- 1:32:13Speaker 1: was a graph. I was too lazy to read the
- 1:32:15Speaker 1: whole graph, but it was a breaking down how wordle
- 1:32:18Speaker 1: is more used than anything.
- 1:32:20Speaker 2: Well, listen, this is true.
- 1:32:22Speaker 1: Let's make sure that's true. Otherwise we'll have to cut
- 1:32:23Speaker 1: this out. I don't want New York Times on my ass.
- 1:32:26Speaker 2: Oh my god, I would suck.
- 1:32:30Speaker 1: They've done it before. It's just that's their job. That's
- 1:32:33Speaker 1: their job, you know. There's just like that shouldn't be
- 1:32:36Speaker 1: a job where your your Times games are more popular
- 1:32:41Speaker 1: than it's news, if that's what you want it to be.
- 1:32:44Speaker 1: But here's the thing, it's not necessary anymore. And I
- 1:32:48Speaker 1: think that through the rise of independent journalism, one of
- 1:32:51Speaker 1: the things really realizing is that all something has someone
- 1:32:54Speaker 1: has to do is be consistently objective and intelligent and
- 1:33:00Speaker 1: post things and post takes on things like Coleman, Hughes
- 1:33:03Speaker 1: or some of these people. Yeah, consistently intelligent, objective, and
- 1:33:07Speaker 1: then you'll develop a following. Yeah, and then you'll become
- 1:33:09Speaker 1: a reliable source of news. That's right, because I know
- 1:33:12Speaker 1: that if I asked Coleman about X, Y or Z,
- 1:33:15Speaker 1: and he's he's informed. He's going to give me a
- 1:33:17Speaker 1: very intelligent breakdown of what it is. There's a few
- 1:33:20Speaker 1: people in my life that are like, like Andrew Huberman,
- 1:33:23Speaker 1: if I have some sort of health related question, Peter Atilla,
- 1:33:26Speaker 1: I have some sort of like how are they doing
- 1:33:28Speaker 1: this and what is this legitimate? Right, and they'll look
- 1:33:30Speaker 1: at it and they'll analyze it. I said, I've sent
- 1:33:33Speaker 1: Huberman stuff and he goes over the data. He's like,
- 1:33:36Speaker 1: this is fascinating. This theoretically should work, you know, and
- 1:33:39Speaker 1: then this will will explain why and what the pathways
- 1:33:41Speaker 1: are and how interesting this is. It's it's an amazing
- 1:33:46Speaker 1: resource that wasn't available before to any person. Forget. I mean,
- 1:33:51Speaker 1: it's too difficult. You'd have one line of inquiry, like
- 1:33:55Speaker 1: you have one lane or whether it's archaeology or language,
- 1:33:59Speaker 1: one lane where you like super well read in. You
- 1:34:01Speaker 1: don't have access to all this These other professors that
- 1:34:03Speaker 1: are working on quantum physics, right, you don't have access
- 1:34:06Speaker 1: to the James Web telescope people. You don't have access
- 1:34:08Speaker 1: to all this data. It's like it's too hard to
- 1:34:10Speaker 1: get right now, it's fucking everywhere, everywhere. It's everywhere all
- 1:34:15Speaker 1: the time.
- 1:34:16Speaker 2: That's right.
- 1:34:16Speaker 1: It's a question away on your phone. Yeah, it's a
- 1:34:19Speaker 1: question away. You pick up your phone and you just
- 1:34:21Speaker 1: fucking press a button and say, Hey, Google, why don't
- 1:34:24Speaker 1: you tell me what the James Web telscoup to? Yeah,
- 1:34:27Speaker 1: Hey chat GPT. Why don't you talk to me like
- 1:34:29Speaker 1: Santa Claus? That explain to me why these drones are fake?
- 1:34:34Speaker 2: The best I don't know if.
- 1:34:36Speaker 1: The drones are China's or ours or water people.
- 1:34:42Speaker 2: They're coming out of the water, no tell I.
- 1:34:44Speaker 1: Imagine if there's a civilization under the water.
- 1:34:46Speaker 2: I mean, that's where I would hide if I was
- 1:34:48Speaker 2: like trying to hide from a civilization. It's the ocean.
- 1:34:51Speaker 2: It's clear. They can't get in there, they can't breathe
- 1:34:53Speaker 2: under there. It's a perfect place to hide.
- 1:34:54Speaker 1: You know what I've been saying for a while, last
- 1:34:56Speaker 1: few weeks at least, I think maybe what the aliens
- 1:35:00Speaker 1: are is custodians. I think maybe they're just here. They're
- 1:35:04Speaker 1: like some sort of autonomous creation that's designed to accelerate
- 1:35:11Speaker 1: our evolution, stop us from blowing ourselves up, and make
- 1:35:15Speaker 1: sure that we build the quantum computer with AI, right,
- 1:35:19Speaker 1: and this is like it's all a part of this
- 1:35:21Speaker 1: like endless cycle of integration in the great universe. This
- 1:35:27Speaker 1: and like we're at this like.
- 1:35:28Speaker 2: Oh, I don't want to get out of my cocoon.
- 1:35:30Speaker 1: We're in that stage. We're in this like bizarre strange
- 1:35:34Speaker 1: you know, Australia pithecus wandering around in the grass fields.
- 1:35:38Speaker 1: We're in this weird stage where we're we're gonna launch
- 1:35:42Speaker 1: into some completely new way of interfacing with the universe
- 1:35:47Speaker 1: itself and it's gonna happen whether you like it or not.
- 1:35:51Speaker 1: And this is just what's happening right now. And that's
- 1:35:53Speaker 1: why everything's so chaotic.
- 1:35:55Speaker 2: Okay.
- 1:35:55Speaker 1: McKenna used to talk about this. He used to talk
- 1:35:57Speaker 1: about how the end of civilization it's not gonna be
- 1:35:59Speaker 1: it's gonna be a whimper. It's gonna be feel screaming
- 1:36:02Speaker 1: in agony. That's it, flailing and trying to hold on,
- 1:36:06Speaker 1: hold on, hold on. Norman Rockwell paintings, You're my own
- 1:36:10Speaker 1: fucking bread.
- 1:36:10Speaker 2: It's trying to do a walt in a rave.
- 1:36:13Speaker 1: How many fucking genders? Yeah, what are you saying?
- 1:36:15Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 1:36:16Speaker 1: Yeah? Are these fucking drones with their drones? God?
- 1:36:18Speaker 2: Damn it, it's the meltdown. And you know, if you
- 1:36:21Speaker 2: what you're saying, like so if you look at like Krick,
- 1:36:24Speaker 2: and I think it was Craick wrote the.
- 1:36:29Speaker 1: Uh.
- 1:36:29Speaker 2: He wrote a paper theorizing about directed pant spermio, which
- 1:36:33Speaker 2: is where you put so so, okay, directed pant spermia,
- 1:36:36Speaker 2: I get some kind of nanobot, which is I guess
- 1:36:39Speaker 2: you could say that's what DNA is, nanobot precursor essentially, Like, well,
- 1:36:43Speaker 2: I think it's weird, and maybe I don't understand what
- 1:36:46Speaker 2: he's doing completely. It's weird to me that Musk wants
- 1:36:49Speaker 2: to send humans to Mars because it seems like it
- 1:36:52Speaker 2: makes way more sense pre sending humans to send drones
- 1:36:57Speaker 2: robots to construct whatever it is you need to survive
- 1:37:01Speaker 2: on Mars, to go in the caves, build the fucking
- 1:37:04Speaker 2: Oh that's the plan, duncan Oh really, so people, the
- 1:37:06Speaker 2: first the first.
- 1:37:08Speaker 1: Voyage to Mars is gonna be unmanned. Okay, great, Yeah,
- 1:37:11Speaker 1: I think they have to do that. They have to
- 1:37:13Speaker 1: they have to have a certain amount of supplies because
- 1:37:15Speaker 1: I think they can only come back in two years.
- 1:37:17Speaker 2: But I don't even mean supplies. I mean if we
- 1:37:19Speaker 2: jump for.
- 1:37:20Speaker 1: Twenty years about missing that bus, the Mars bus, two
- 1:37:23Speaker 1: year bus. Oh, Duncan, you were late, you slept in.
- 1:37:27Speaker 2: And that's hilarious that you missed the watch the rocket
- 1:37:30Speaker 2: go up.
- 1:37:30Speaker 1: No, no, nobody woke me. You cockers. Imagine, like, Duncan
- 1:37:37Speaker 1: is such a fucking douchebag. Let's leave him here, Let's
- 1:37:40Speaker 1: leave him on Mars. There's plenty of potatoes you can live,
- 1:37:43Speaker 1: so fucking fuck him. Make him fertilize his potatoes with
- 1:37:46Speaker 1: his own ship, like so Damon, Yeah, like Matt Damon
- 1:37:50Speaker 1: did in that Martia movie.
- 1:37:51Speaker 2: Dude, so you if so? Obviously, Like the way you're
- 1:37:57Speaker 2: gonna want to colonize habitable worlds is you create not
- 1:38:03Speaker 2: just this nanobot, but you make it so the nanobot
- 1:38:05Speaker 2: can only survive in environments that you would live in,
- 1:38:08Speaker 2: meaning and then encoded in the nanobot is the end
- 1:38:12Speaker 2: destination what you're talking about? The quantum computers, some kind
- 1:38:14Speaker 2: of AI that then will naturally uncover faster than light
- 1:38:18Speaker 2: travel wormholes, whatever the fuck it is. And then when
- 1:38:20Speaker 2: the wormholes open up, you can instantaneously travel to habitable planets.
- 1:38:25Speaker 1: Right, So can I tell you urns Howard's idea. Yeah,
- 1:38:29Speaker 1: it's a great idea.
- 1:38:30Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:38:31Speaker 1: He thinks that we have it all wrong when it
- 1:38:34Speaker 1: comes to the formation of planets and the creation of life.
- 1:38:38Speaker 1: He thinks what happens is the Sun is constantly ejecting things. Right,
- 1:38:44Speaker 1: you see these coronal mass ejections. Crazy, Yeah, millions of times,
- 1:38:49Speaker 1: like longer than you know, the distance between whatever and whatever,
- 1:38:53Speaker 1: I don't know, almost just scary crazy, bigger than Earth
- 1:38:56Speaker 1: right that. He thinks these particles coalesque in space outside
- 1:39:01Speaker 1: of the gravity of the Sun, and they orbit the
- 1:39:04Speaker 1: Sun and very close at first, but then as time
- 1:39:07Speaker 1: goes on, they move further and further away, and they
- 1:39:10Speaker 1: get to a place where they're in this position like
- 1:39:12Speaker 1: Earth is, and then they people. They flower, just like
- 1:39:16Speaker 1: when you plant a seed when the water comes and
- 1:39:19Speaker 1: he goes. And then it has to be sophisticated enough
- 1:39:23Speaker 1: to adapt because the planet is eventually going to move
- 1:39:26Speaker 1: out of the habitable zone. Wow. He thinks that Mars
- 1:39:30Speaker 1: at one point in time probably had civilization and life.
- 1:39:35Speaker 1: And then as Mars got further and further and further
- 1:39:38Speaker 1: out from the protection of the Sun, it eventually got
- 1:39:41Speaker 1: too cold and it eventually got hit by something. It
- 1:39:43Speaker 1: lost its atmosphere and now it's just desert.
- 1:39:47Speaker 2: That's so cool.
- 1:39:47Speaker 1: Well, now they know there's water on Mars. They know
- 1:39:50Speaker 1: it used to be just the craziest of conspiracy. Oh
- 1:39:52Speaker 1: there's no water on Mars. There's no evidence of water.
- 1:39:56Speaker 1: How could a society live there? But this is the
- 1:40:00Speaker 1: nuttiest of nutting. But some remote viewer went to Mars
- 1:40:04Speaker 1: a million years ago and said there were pyramids there
- 1:40:08Speaker 1: and there was a civilization there. Yeah, and you know
- 1:40:12Speaker 1: there's tribes. Well, actually they think they came from the
- 1:40:15Speaker 1: planet serious, right, like the Dogon tribe. Yeah, I believe
- 1:40:18Speaker 1: that all people came from from another planet. If you
- 1:40:21Speaker 1: were in Mars and you're a thousand years advanced from us,
- 1:40:25Speaker 1: and they never figure out AI, so they could just
- 1:40:27Speaker 1: go in a different direction. They're like super super advanced though,
- 1:40:29Speaker 1: where they could travel through the space between the planets.
- 1:40:33Speaker 1: And you get to a point where you're like, hey, guys,
- 1:40:35Speaker 1: we got about a decade. We got about one decade
- 1:40:39Speaker 1: where life can exist on this fucking planet. We've got
- 1:40:41Speaker 1: to get off of this now. Earth is ready. There's
- 1:40:45Speaker 1: some monkeys there. There's a bunch of shit there, Like
- 1:40:49Speaker 1: you know, we could just go there. Yeah, we just
- 1:40:51Speaker 1: go there. Well, and then we just monked around with
- 1:40:54Speaker 1: them like these guys are developing like really slowly, like
- 1:40:57Speaker 1: why don't we do it? And then Homo saviens.
- 1:40:59Speaker 2: Yeay, look there you go. Man, listen the whatever it
- 1:41:03Speaker 2: is that just described whatever it is.
- 1:41:07Speaker 1: It's not that I wasn't believing it. As I was
- 1:41:09Speaker 1: saying that, I was like, that's crazy.
- 1:41:10Speaker 2: But dude, you know, I think maybe you look at
- 1:41:15Speaker 2: just the concept of epigenetics and what we're doing right now.
- 1:41:19Speaker 2: You look at the statistical probability of DNA evolving based
- 1:41:23Speaker 2: on the age of the planet. You look at these things,
- 1:41:27Speaker 2: and not just that, you look at the mythologies of
- 1:41:29Speaker 2: the world. It all points towards some kind of advanced intelligence,
- 1:41:35Speaker 2: bioengineering a planet for some reason or another. I mean,
- 1:41:40Speaker 2: even like if you ever had the parable of the sower,
- 1:41:42Speaker 2: you know that Jesus, Jesus said, can you do you
- 1:41:46Speaker 2: mind pulling that up? Jamie, I don't haven't memorized yet
- 1:41:51Speaker 2: the parable of the sewer. When you think of SO
- 1:41:54Speaker 2: S O W E R like a like sewing things, No,
- 1:41:58Speaker 2: like planning seeds, plane the pair ofble do. But when
- 1:42:02Speaker 2: you think about this generally, this is the idea of like,
- 1:42:05Speaker 2: there's people who are going to like understand Jesus as God.
- 1:42:08Speaker 2: But if you look at it as an extra terrestrial
- 1:42:10Speaker 2: intelligence planting seeds on planets versus, it becomes this like crazy.
- 1:42:17Speaker 2: The sower is the yeah, the pair of the soul.
- 1:42:25Speaker 2: Those seeing they do not see, though hearing they do
- 1:42:27Speaker 2: not hear or understand. And then where is it?
- 1:42:31Speaker 1: Oh?
- 1:42:32Speaker 2: Yeah, got and he told. A farmer went out to
- 1:42:36Speaker 2: sow a seed. As he was scattering the seeds, some
- 1:42:38Speaker 2: fell along the path and the birds ate it up.
- 1:42:41Speaker 2: Some fell on rocky places where it did not have
- 1:42:43Speaker 2: much soil. It sprang up quickly because the soil is shallow.
- 1:42:46Speaker 2: But when the sun came up, the plants were scorched
- 1:42:48Speaker 2: and they withered because they had no root. Other seed
- 1:42:51Speaker 2: fell among thorns, which grew up and choked the plants. Still,
- 1:42:54Speaker 2: other seed fell on good soil, where it produced a crop.
- 1:42:57Speaker 2: One hundred and sixty or thirty times. It was so
- 1:43:00Speaker 2: whoever has ears, let them hear.
- 1:43:02Speaker 1: Whoa listen to this? The disciples came to him and asked,
- 1:43:08Speaker 1: why do you speak to the people in parables? He replied,
- 1:43:12Speaker 1: because the knowledge of the secrets of the Kingdom of
- 1:43:15Speaker 1: Heaven has been given to you, but not to them.
- 1:43:19Speaker 1: Whoever has will be given more, and they will have
- 1:43:22Speaker 1: an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what they have,
- 1:43:26Speaker 1: will be taken from them. This is why I speak
- 1:43:29Speaker 1: to them in parables. I'd be like, bro, what the
- 1:43:31Speaker 1: fuck did you say? Can you break that down? If
- 1:43:33Speaker 1: I had that guy in the podcast, if I had
- 1:43:35Speaker 1: God on the podcast, Like, okay, do you have friends? Okay,
- 1:43:39Speaker 1: when you talk to friends like you should, when you
- 1:43:42Speaker 1: say like complicated things, you should make it make sense.
- 1:43:45Speaker 1: So I know you're smart. You made the whole universe. Yeah,
- 1:43:48Speaker 1: I'm not being disrespectful, sir, but what did you just say?
- 1:43:51Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you speak parable? You see, imagine
- 1:43:54Speaker 2: a flower growing from stone. Sometimes the stone is angry flower,
- 1:44:00Speaker 2: but sometimes the stone glows with light. This is why
- 1:44:05Speaker 2: is it.
- 1:44:06Speaker 1: Because we teach kids that way? Kind of we kind
- 1:44:11Speaker 1: of teach kids almost imparables. Well, I teach kids like
- 1:44:15Speaker 1: a simplistic form of everything.
- 1:44:18Speaker 2: Well, I think it's an acknowledgement of a kind of
- 1:44:22Speaker 2: spectrum of intelligence. Right, It's like the idea is like,
- 1:44:25Speaker 2: let me give you a little data fractal here.
- 1:44:27Speaker 1: That's why it's so rude when someone talks down to you,
- 1:44:30Speaker 1: when someone's like, I don't know if you know, but
- 1:44:34Speaker 1: let me explain to you how please, what's wrong with
- 1:44:37Speaker 1: the way you're thinking?
- 1:44:38Speaker 2: I can't wait to hear.
- 1:44:39Speaker 1: It's the grossest way to talk to people ever, it is.
- 1:44:42Speaker 2: It's it's absolutely a sign of low intelligence if you're
- 1:44:45Speaker 2: so idiotic that you think and you're being honest, yeah,
- 1:44:48Speaker 2: but how do you think?
- 1:44:49Speaker 1: But you're you're deciding to be mean about a point
- 1:44:55Speaker 1: of discussion. That's right, that's what it is. You're deciding
- 1:44:57Speaker 1: to be mean instead of saying, I have a lot
- 1:45:01Speaker 1: of knowledge about this, if we could, if I could
- 1:45:03Speaker 1: tell you what I know. This is why I believe
- 1:45:06Speaker 1: what you're saying is not true, because I actually have
- 1:45:09Speaker 1: a PhD in this, and this is how we know this,
- 1:45:11Speaker 1: and this is how we know that. And then and
- 1:45:12Speaker 1: then you go, oh, that's essentially what Eric Weinstein did
- 1:45:16Speaker 1: to Terrence Howard. So when Terrence Howard was on the podcast,
- 1:45:19Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that you're saying that we're
- 1:45:20Speaker 1: true and really fascinating and very interesting. He's a very
- 1:45:23Speaker 1: brilliant guy. Eric Weinstein is a legitimate PhD in mathematics.
- 1:45:27Speaker 1: He's super fucking crazy, scary smart, and he was. And
- 1:45:31Speaker 1: he said to him, he said, look, I'm not giving
- 1:45:32Speaker 1: you peer review. He goes, I'm not a peer. You're
- 1:45:34Speaker 1: not my peer. He goes, I'm an expert. I'm giving
- 1:45:37Speaker 1: you an expert review. I'm saying you have a lot
- 1:45:39Speaker 1: of really interesting ideas. Just stop teaching people. Stop stop.
- 1:45:42Speaker 1: It's offensive to the people that actually do this for
- 1:45:44Speaker 1: a living. That's all it is. It doesn't you are
- 1:45:47Speaker 1: like us. And this is what he said of him,
- 1:45:49Speaker 1: He said, he's one of us. He just went down
- 1:45:50Speaker 1: a different path. But he's a brilliant guy who has
- 1:45:54Speaker 1: a strong desire to understand the universe. Yeah, strong desire
- 1:45:58Speaker 1: to understand things. But he's not You have to go
- 1:46:01Speaker 1: down the path of peers. You have to go down
- 1:46:03Speaker 1: the path of you got to be with all these
- 1:46:05Speaker 1: other legitimate people to bounce these ideas about. And the
- 1:46:08Speaker 1: only way you're really going to get in if you
- 1:46:10Speaker 1: you have to find some online community of legitimate people
- 1:46:12Speaker 1: that accept you. You have to be invited into something,
- 1:46:15Speaker 1: or you have to fucking attend a university like all
- 1:46:17Speaker 1: the other I did. That's that's how you find out,
- 1:46:19Speaker 1: especially when it comes to ship like mathematics. Boy, you
- 1:46:23Speaker 1: know when you're talking about like things like physics, Yeah, boy,
- 1:46:26Speaker 1: you need do you need? That's These are cold hard,
- 1:46:30Speaker 1: fact based disciplines like you need to be around the
- 1:46:33Speaker 1: people that are the cream of the crop of that.
- 1:46:35Speaker 1: That's it.
- 1:46:35Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right man. And and and that. I watched
- 1:46:40Speaker 2: some of that, and I loved it because, uh, well
- 1:46:46Speaker 2: that's what compassion looks like.
- 1:46:47Speaker 1: You got to see also the Terrence is a good guy, yeah, exactly,
- 1:46:50Speaker 1: and get upset. It didn't get angry.
- 1:46:51Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't design.
- 1:46:53Speaker 1: It wasn't at all. And it was also an acknowledgment
- 1:46:56Speaker 1: that a lot of his ideas are really fucking good,
- 1:46:57Speaker 1: that peopling ideas are really fucking good. Do the other
- 1:47:01Speaker 1: thing that he has that he invented. You've seen that
- 1:47:03Speaker 1: lynchpin thing that he invented.
- 1:47:05Speaker 2: I saw something like that.
- 1:47:06Speaker 1: Podular drone technology that ye like be used for construction
- 1:47:10Speaker 1: and fucking moving giant girders, creative arts. Well, they all
- 1:47:14Speaker 1: link together. It's like a geometric pattern. But the nerdiest
- 1:47:18Speaker 1: of nerdy things was Weinstein calling him out on the
- 1:47:22Speaker 1: degree of the angle of one of the like fucking
- 1:47:26Speaker 1: calculations that he made. I don't even remember exactly what
- 1:47:29Speaker 1: it was. He was you had to cheat that right, right,
- 1:47:31Speaker 1: and he's like, yeah, I did, I did that to
- 1:47:32Speaker 1: make it work. And he's like, a, they were like
- 1:47:35Speaker 1: fucking with you because he understood why there would be
- 1:47:38Speaker 1: something problematic about linking all these specific geometric patterns and
- 1:47:42Speaker 1: then he had to make some slight adjustment to make
- 1:47:44Speaker 1: them link up perfectly.
- 1:47:46Speaker 2: I love that super nerd talk inside baseball. Comedians do
- 1:47:49Speaker 2: it too, like when we're like breaking down a joke
- 1:47:52Speaker 2: and like the like the to a minute pause or something.
- 1:47:56Speaker 2: It's the same thing. But yeah, man, I mean this,
- 1:48:00Speaker 2: this was This is what I love. When you read
- 1:48:02Speaker 2: about the history of science, you read about like famous
- 1:48:06Speaker 2: physicists getting in real, like intense fights with each other,
- 1:48:12Speaker 2: and you see that the process of discovering the truth
- 1:48:16Speaker 2: does involve a kind of mutual curiosity but not being
- 1:48:21Speaker 2: afraid to say this is fucking wrong, but allowing the
- 1:48:24Speaker 2: other person to fire back because you both know that
- 1:48:27Speaker 2: via this conflict, potentially you discover something new. And that
- 1:48:32Speaker 2: was the attitude. I mean, like this whole thing where
- 1:48:36Speaker 2: suddenly normal people aren't supposed to engage in science. Is
- 1:48:42Speaker 2: really fucked up when you look at like the history
- 1:48:44Speaker 2: of science, which used to be maniacs like Newton, who
- 1:48:49Speaker 2: they analyzed as hair mercury in his fucking hair.
- 1:48:54Speaker 1: Because everything had poisoned it back then.
- 1:48:56Speaker 2: Well no, but he was experimenting with mercury. Is interesting.
- 1:48:59Speaker 2: He's like building scale replicas at the Temple of Solomon.
- 1:49:03Speaker 2: You know, like you look at that and you see
- 1:49:05Speaker 2: that now Newton today. You know, somebody like Don lim
- 1:49:10Speaker 2: would be like, oh really, so you're gonna believe Isaac
- 1:49:12Speaker 2: fucking Newton with mercury in his hair and his little
- 1:49:16Speaker 2: dollhouse like the Temple of Solomon. Oh yeah, he's a
- 1:49:19Speaker 2: real scientist. That's not what they look like. It's like
- 1:49:23Speaker 2: these people are out of their fucking minds. Sigmund Freud
- 1:49:27Speaker 2: just injecting fucking liquid cocaine into his veins. You look
- 1:49:32Speaker 2: at like the history freaking out about his mom fucking
- 1:49:35Speaker 2: shoving cigars up his ass. I don't think he really
- 1:49:39Speaker 2: did that, but I wouldn't be a surprised, But you know,
- 1:49:41Speaker 2: you look at the history of what brilliant people who
- 1:49:45Speaker 2: have shifted the culture actually behave like Tesla. Fucking Tesla did,
- 1:49:50Speaker 2: like I don't know, in love with a pigeon, didn't
- 1:49:53Speaker 2: want to like thought about castrating himself because his sex
- 1:49:57Speaker 2: drive was getting in the way of his research. So
- 1:49:59Speaker 2: he's like, I'll just chop my he did.
- 1:50:01Speaker 1: Dude. I think there was a description of him destroying
- 1:50:03Speaker 1: his sexuality.
- 1:50:05Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, So you you sort of like realize that,
- 1:50:08Speaker 2: for whatever reason, the priest class of default reality, of
- 1:50:12Speaker 2: which Don Lemon is a high priest, have suddenly created
- 1:50:16Speaker 2: this ridiculous version of scientists, of philosophers, of intellectuals that
- 1:50:22Speaker 2: are domesticated people, normal fucking people. Is actually really awful
- 1:50:29Speaker 2: in the sense that all of the like philosophers and
- 1:50:33Speaker 2: scientists out there today who are like, you know, in
- 1:50:37Speaker 2: their filthy fucking apartments, who've been staring into a candle
- 1:50:40Speaker 2: for like five hours, they're not thinking like I'm a scientist.
- 1:50:45Speaker 2: They might be, you don't know, like this this new
- 1:50:49Speaker 2: basically like it appears that the power structures in the
- 1:50:55Speaker 2: world want to create this homogeneous version of humanity within
- 1:51:01Speaker 2: which there's all these declaude people who completely align on
- 1:51:06Speaker 2: a few ridiculous facts.
- 1:51:08Speaker 1: Absolutely, and you can make those people very clawed if
- 1:51:12Speaker 1: you bond them together to attack anybody who doesn't stay
- 1:51:15Speaker 1: in line.
- 1:51:15Speaker 2: That's right, Yeah, that's right. And that is what again,
- 1:51:19Speaker 2: like a coup where you get rid of the president.
- 1:51:21Speaker 2: At least you know it's not the president tyranny where
- 1:51:26Speaker 2: you don't have soldiers in the streets, but a kind
- 1:51:30Speaker 2: of societal pressure, an unending pressure trying to ulineos TikTok,
- 1:51:37Speaker 2: the reels the algorithm, Like, dude, have you ever looked
- 1:51:39Speaker 2: at pendulum sync up?
- 1:51:41Speaker 1: But I don't watch TikTok. I don't have TikTok.
- 1:51:43Speaker 2: I know it sucks because I try to send you
- 1:51:45Speaker 2: some TikTok shit and you can't look at it.
- 1:51:47Speaker 1: I won't click on it, but don't They probably already
- 1:51:51Speaker 1: infected my phone just because you sent me those links.
- 1:51:53Speaker 1: It's probably in the user agreement. I still send them
- 1:51:56Speaker 1: agree to infect other people's phones every time you send
- 1:51:58Speaker 1: them a link.
- 1:51:58Speaker 2: I keep opening you all have like I try to, Well,
- 1:52:02Speaker 2: it's it is so incredibly hypnotic, like it is so
- 1:52:08Speaker 2: advanced in what it does, but not interested. It's really
- 1:52:11Speaker 2: creepy though, because like it's it's sinking as it's homogenizing
- 1:52:16Speaker 2: people and that's what I don't like, is like it's
- 1:52:18Speaker 2: creating this SYNCD up and it's creepy because like the
- 1:52:21Speaker 2: TikTok dance is actually, if you think about it, it's
- 1:52:25Speaker 2: really a symbol of what it's doing for a lot
- 1:52:27Speaker 2: of other things, like maybe you're not doing a choreographed
- 1:52:29Speaker 2: dance with your family in front of the Christmas tree
- 1:52:32Speaker 2: to some dumb song. But why is it that everything
- 1:52:35Speaker 2: you say I've read I've seen written exactly in the
- 1:52:39Speaker 2: same way I read it. Why is it that every
- 1:52:41Speaker 2: opinion you have matches, not just like the idea doesn't match,
- 1:52:47Speaker 2: but the way you're verbalizing the idea is like a
- 1:52:50Speaker 2: sentence that I've heard over and over and over again
- 1:52:53Speaker 2: in different places. That is so spooky to me and
- 1:52:56Speaker 2: so to me like that. And also it's called TikTok, which,
- 1:53:01Speaker 2: in my fucking paranoid universe ikey thinking, is that the
- 1:53:03Speaker 2: TikTok of a metronome that they're talking about getting people
- 1:53:07Speaker 2: to dance to a certain cultural bpm.
- 1:53:10Speaker 1: Jamie, I'm gonna send you something. I'm not sure if
- 1:53:12Speaker 1: it's true, so I want you to find out if
- 1:53:14Speaker 1: it's true. And it was someone was saying that there's
- 1:53:19Speaker 1: a whole series of I saved it on Twitter. It's
- 1:53:23Speaker 1: a link on Twitter, That's what it is. There's a
- 1:53:25Speaker 1: whole series of people who were claiming to be doctors
- 1:53:30Speaker 1: saying the exact same thing.
- 1:53:32Speaker 2: I saw that. I don't know.
- 1:53:34Speaker 1: The problem with those things is like people bullshit, and
- 1:53:38Speaker 1: when people bold here it is, I'll send the teacher.
- 1:53:41Speaker 1: When people bullshit, it's really hard to tell, you know,
- 1:53:43Speaker 1: because if you change this and you know, create this
- 1:53:48Speaker 1: in photoshop and then people start spreading it, then all
- 1:53:51Speaker 1: of a sudden that narrative gets out and most people
- 1:53:53Speaker 1: don't ever hear oh no, no, no, somebody made that in photoshop, right,
- 1:53:56Speaker 1: So by the time it gets around, it's like, I
- 1:53:57Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know if it's true or not. Right,
- 1:54:00Speaker 1: these are one of those. So it's like, if if
- 1:54:02Speaker 1: that's true, and if all these doctors were tweeting out
- 1:54:05Speaker 1: the exact same verbage exactly, I wonder if that's a mandate.
- 1:54:11Speaker 1: I wonder if they're sent something like a mass email
- 1:54:15Speaker 1: that says copy and paste this perhaps discord server, or
- 1:54:19Speaker 1: I wonder if they're fake doctors, or I wonder, you know,
- 1:54:22Speaker 1: if it's like some bot program designed to encourage people
- 1:54:26Speaker 1: to go get vaccinated or whatever it was. I just
- 1:54:28Speaker 1: don't know if it was real. So I don't want to, like,
- 1:54:30Speaker 1: I want to doctor Jamie to look at it real quick.
- 1:54:33Speaker 2: Thank you, Jamie.
- 1:54:33Speaker 1: Jamie super skeptical to the point of being a liberal.
- 1:54:39Speaker 6: Why does that have to Why is that he's triggered,
- 1:54:42Speaker 6: he's triggered That narrative gets around people.
- 1:54:45Speaker 1: I know, I know Jamie's not a liberal, folks. Yeah,
- 1:54:47Speaker 1: Jamie's very down the middle.
- 1:54:49Speaker 2: Hey, Jamie's not a labor.
- 1:54:51Speaker 1: You're a centrist? Is that correct? Sure? I think so?
- 1:54:54Speaker 6: Right, this is weird. I'm just looking at the account.
- 1:54:56Speaker 6: I don't I'm trying to figure out a way to
- 1:54:58Speaker 6: research it. I'm asking twitters Google search the image.
- 1:55:01Speaker 1: But see if the thing has been community noted.
- 1:55:05Speaker 6: I do see one different Here's what difference I'm noticing
- 1:55:08Speaker 6: just looking.
- 1:55:08Speaker 1: At it that the different font.
- 1:55:11Speaker 6: Well, the third thing that they're saying is a little
- 1:55:12Speaker 6: different because it's starting to be a joke. Sugma is
- 1:55:15Speaker 6: a joke. It's something that's my neck, my nuts.
- 1:55:18Speaker 1: Oh really, yeah, it's hilarious. That's very funny. But okay,
- 1:55:27Speaker 1: so it does mean so it could be that a
- 1:55:30Speaker 1: bunch of people just decided to retweet it for funzies.
- 1:55:33Speaker 2: Some of them are why don't you go to their accounts?
- 1:55:38Speaker 1: Or it could have been one of those things where
- 1:55:40Speaker 1: someone got caught. Do you remember when there was this
- 1:55:43Speaker 1: like misinformation video that got out. There was all these
- 1:55:46Speaker 1: local news anchors giving the same crazy inverbatim in tune
- 1:55:52Speaker 1: in time. It's really weird. Play that, Jamie, do.
- 1:55:57Speaker 6: You know what that how that happens?
- 1:55:59Speaker 1: Yeah, they get and just get the same script.
- 1:56:01Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like local news stuff. It's like, uh, I
- 1:56:04Speaker 6: usually right.
- 1:56:05Speaker 1: But it's about misinformation. Oh yeah, and it's it's weird.
- 1:56:10Speaker 1: It's weird because they're basically protecting their job. So what
- 1:56:13Speaker 1: is that They've been caught stealing money? You know, they've
- 1:56:15Speaker 1: got a big fucking pot of gold and you know,
- 1:56:18Speaker 1: and the people are at the door, like I already
- 1:56:20Speaker 1: got golden there. What you're hearing is misinformation. It's all misinformation.
- 1:56:24Speaker 1: We are the number one source of news and we're
- 1:56:27Speaker 1: dedicated to give you the true objective.
- 1:56:31Speaker 6: We're reciting the same script.
- 1:56:33Speaker 1: Right is it? What company is it that makes them?
- 1:56:37Speaker 1: So they make them? Let's just play it though, because
- 1:56:40Speaker 1: it's so crazy that these people are the people that
- 1:56:42Speaker 1: are in charge of giving you the news and they're
- 1:56:45Speaker 1: reading off this thing, pretending that this is the these
- 1:56:48Speaker 1: are their thoughts. This is what's bizarre about that where
- 1:56:51Speaker 1: it's untenable because people know that those are not their thoughts.
- 1:56:55Speaker 1: They know they're reading off of script, right, everybody knows it,
- 1:56:57Speaker 1: So it doesn't work. You're just making noise with your
- 1:57:00Speaker 1: mouth and people are still on Twitter, well they did,
- 1:57:03Speaker 1: you know what I mean, They're still they're still like
- 1:57:05Speaker 1: reading what's actually going on versus what you're saying.
- 1:57:08Speaker 2: Also, you know, you know, the idea is you get
- 1:57:10Speaker 2: these people to dress up like humans and then just
- 1:57:12Speaker 2: get them to like in tone, whatever the fucking thing is.
- 1:57:16Speaker 2: You want them to read, and we think they're one
- 1:57:18Speaker 2: of us, and so we believe them.
- 1:57:20Speaker 1: Jamie, did I send you the thing where the girl
- 1:57:22Speaker 1: is uh, excuse me? The woman is giving a press
- 1:57:27Speaker 1: conference on the UAPs and the drones and she's saying,
- 1:57:31Speaker 1: we don't know what they are, they're not ours and
- 1:57:34Speaker 1: they're not an adversaries. That's I think I think I
- 1:57:36Speaker 1: tweeted I send it to you.
- 1:57:37Speaker 2: That's the one where she's wearing the UF phone necklace.
- 1:57:39Speaker 2: You'll see she's wearing a UF phone.
- 1:57:42Speaker 1: Is she a cook? Who is? Who is this lady?
- 1:57:44Speaker 1: I don't know legit press conference.
- 1:57:46Speaker 2: All I know she's in front of a podium, so
- 1:57:47Speaker 2: I trust her.
- 1:57:48Speaker 1: That's what I go by. It's get all the way
- 1:57:51Speaker 1: the fuck up there and nobody. Yeah, you're at the
- 1:57:55Speaker 1: podium totally. Yeah, Yeah, you're at the sacred scroll.
- 1:57:57Speaker 2: There's a flag behind you.
- 1:57:59Speaker 1: I'm gonna buy a torah. You ever see the torah?
- 1:58:02Speaker 1: It's like or the talmud you can just buy.
- 1:58:05Speaker 2: You're gonna buy the actual scroll.
- 1:58:06Speaker 1: You get someone to write it for you.
- 1:58:08Speaker 2: That's a terrible responsibility for him because you have to
- 1:58:10Speaker 2: like treat it really carefully. You have to put in
- 1:58:12Speaker 2: a vault.
- 1:58:13Speaker 1: Dudes, they know he's gonna keep in his living room
- 1:58:15Speaker 1: and jerk off on it.
- 1:58:16Speaker 2: Did he say that?
- 1:58:17Speaker 1: No?
- 1:58:18Speaker 2: No, you want that. I promise he still believes he's
- 1:58:21Speaker 2: not gonna jerk off on the tour. I promise you
- 1:58:24Speaker 2: he's gonna put it a talmot the tour. Dude. How
- 1:58:33Speaker 2: about this one, Jamie, can you find you remember that
- 1:58:36Speaker 2: lady they hired for the Ministry of It wasn't.
- 1:58:39Speaker 1: Called that, but it was a ministry of disinformation.
- 1:58:41Speaker 2: Can you find the ministry of different information? Lady singing
- 1:58:44Speaker 2: super califragilistic X you see, of.
- 1:58:46Speaker 1: Course that be awesome. She's like, she's like such a loon.
- 1:59:00Speaker 1: And this idea that this person is going to be
- 1:59:01Speaker 1: in charge of what's legitimate and not, there's too many things.
- 1:59:05Speaker 1: This is what people are realizing. There's too many things
- 1:59:07Speaker 1: that they told us were not legitimate just three years
- 1:59:08Speaker 1: ago that are one hundred fact now and everybody knows that.
- 1:59:12Speaker 1: And this is this latest what is the House Committee
- 1:59:15Speaker 1: thing on with with COVID and the Wuhan lab leak
- 1:59:19Speaker 1: And this lady.
- 1:59:21Speaker 2: Is the craziest I have ever seen it.
- 1:59:24Speaker 1: Nina Djankovic them in.
- 1:59:27Speaker 2: Congress or matrem out that's so information's origins are slightly
- 1:59:31Speaker 2: less atrocious. Can you imagine.
- 1:59:34Speaker 7: It's how you a delighted lie.
- 1:59:35Speaker 1: It's how you had a delighted lie.
- 1:59:37Speaker 2: It's how they think we're idiots.
- 1:59:39Speaker 5: Juliani shared that in tem from Ukraine or when TikTok
- 1:59:42Speaker 5: influence to say COVID can't cause pain, the.
- 1:59:45Speaker 2: Landering the Sino, when we really should take note and
- 1:59:48Speaker 2: not support their lives with our Wallet voice.
- 1:59:53Speaker 1: It's kind of catchy.
- 1:59:55Speaker 3: I mean, she's beautiful, and that's what Animaniacs did mainstream out.
- 1:59:59Speaker 2: That's this is real.
- 2:00:01Speaker 6: It feels like Animaniacs to me.
- 2:00:05Speaker 1: You guys might be no, I think it's really her. No.
- 2:00:07Speaker 6: No, I mean, but that they would give information out
- 2:00:10Speaker 6: in songs like that song for him, it would be informational.
- 2:00:12Speaker 1: But this was like something that she released when they
- 2:00:15Speaker 1: were talking about her being the Ministry of the head
- 2:00:18Speaker 1: of the disinformation. But how about I think it's honestly
- 2:00:22Speaker 1: just her trying to go viral with a video about
- 2:00:25Speaker 1: this thing that she's doing. That's what it is, and
- 2:00:27Speaker 1: that's the It's a good way to go viral. I mean,
- 2:00:29Speaker 1: we just talked about it. I mean, people share it,
- 2:00:31Speaker 1: even if it's preposterous. It's a good way to get
- 2:00:33Speaker 1: attention to this thing that you're about to do.
- 2:00:35Speaker 2: And it's fine if if the United States isn't literally
- 2:00:39Speaker 2: trillions of dollars in debt, and partially because people like
- 2:00:42Speaker 2: that are getting hired to sing fucking Mary Poppins information.
- 2:00:51Speaker 1: You should get Nancy Pelosi money, dude, she should.
- 2:00:54Speaker 2: Get I mean, look, Nancy Pelosi, Diamond.
- 2:01:00Speaker 1: Crystal and diamonds in the bathtub. Just waddle around, Just
- 2:01:10Speaker 1: hang in there until that fucking genetic engineering comes.
- 2:01:13Speaker 2: You could be young Againivills, what was it she said,
- 2:01:16Speaker 2: Joe Biden should be on Mount Rushmore.
- 2:01:19Speaker 1: Good call, dude. He's definitely not going to send you
- 2:01:22Speaker 1: in jail. That guy is uh oh, this is what
- 2:01:24Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about. Pardons. I'm not
- 2:01:28Speaker 1: opposed to the idea of being pardoned because I think
- 2:01:31Speaker 1: that there's like governors can find out that someone legitimately
- 2:01:36Speaker 1: got railroaded and they can pardon someone.
- 2:01:39Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that.
- 2:01:40Speaker 1: I like that. I like that the president can pardon
- 2:01:42Speaker 1: some people, like I wish they pardoned at Snowden. You know,
- 2:01:46Speaker 1: you know there's a bunch of Julian Assange. They should
- 2:01:48Speaker 1: have pardoned Julian Assange. I wish there was, you know,
- 2:01:52Speaker 1: a way to stop someone from pardoning eight thousand fucking people.
- 2:01:55Speaker 1: And some of them are like murderers. Some of them
- 2:01:57Speaker 1: are the kids, the kids for cash, judge kids for cash,
- 2:02:01Speaker 1: one of them or one of the people. We talked
- 2:02:03Speaker 1: about this the other day. He's one of the people.
- 2:02:05Speaker 1: He had two years left in a sentence. But still
- 2:02:07Speaker 1: like it's the principle of the thing. How many lives
- 2:02:10Speaker 1: were destroyed by that kids for cash thing. How many
- 2:02:13Speaker 1: dehumanizing decisions were made where you decided to lock young
- 2:02:17Speaker 1: people up in detention centers where they would get raped
- 2:02:20Speaker 1: and beaten up and tortured and separated from their family
- 2:02:24Speaker 1: and sent down a horrible road of distrust of law
- 2:02:29Speaker 1: enforcement and of authority and everything else. Everything else. You're
- 2:02:34Speaker 1: basically setting them up for a life of being a
- 2:02:37Speaker 1: fucking loser unless they have the strongest of wills and
- 2:02:41Speaker 1: they can figure out a way to stay positive and
- 2:02:43Speaker 1: get through it and then use that to fuel whatever
- 2:02:47Speaker 1: the fuck they do. That's so rare, man, those people
- 2:02:50Speaker 1: are so rare.
- 2:02:52Speaker 2: Well, here's the problem, man, I mean the problem is well,
- 2:02:55Speaker 2: number one, I think, okay, like you pull someone over,
- 2:03:00Speaker 2: falize them. They're driving drunk, right, so you're like, you
- 2:03:03Speaker 2: can't drive now because you're drunk. So also, you wouldn't
- 2:03:08Speaker 2: say to them, I'm going to give you the ability
- 2:03:10Speaker 2: to pardon as many people as you want for any
- 2:03:12Speaker 2: crime that you want. Right, So if somebody has dementia, right,
- 2:03:18Speaker 2: why did they do all the pardons. It's so crazy,
- 2:03:21Speaker 2: It's crazy.
- 2:03:22Speaker 1: It's a great point that I never even thought of. Yeah, wait,
- 2:03:24Speaker 1: so why would you still give them that power?
- 2:03:26Speaker 2: Well, the other thing that's really fucking crazy about it
- 2:03:29Speaker 2: is I don't know what the president makes a year,
- 2:03:32Speaker 2: but it's not enough money. We barely pay the president anything.
- 2:03:35Speaker 1: So I think it's like four hundred thousand dollars a year.
- 2:03:38Speaker 1: You can't say that's barely enough.
- 2:03:40Speaker 2: That's barely I know. I mean for the actual job.
- 2:03:43Speaker 2: I mean literally every day you're shitting blood because no
- 2:03:47Speaker 2: matter what you do, you say the wrong thing, five
- 2:03:49Speaker 2: thousand people accidentally die. It's the most stressful job on earth.
- 2:03:53Speaker 2: I'm saying the actual thing theoretically in my mind. So
- 2:03:56Speaker 2: I would say, you know, in the way that we
- 2:03:58Speaker 2: pay our football players a shit a ton of money,
- 2:04:00Speaker 2: baseball players are shit a ton of money. The dude,
- 2:04:03Speaker 2: theoretically keeping our country from getting nukes should make a
- 2:04:06Speaker 2: lot of money. Why not if how about this?
- 2:04:09Speaker 1: How about we pay them more? But they can't do speeches,
- 2:04:12Speaker 1: No speeches afterwards, no paid speeches when you leave. You
- 2:04:14Speaker 1: can write books, you can write books, but none of
- 2:04:17Speaker 1: those paid bank speeches, none of those five hundred speeches.
- 2:04:22Speaker 2: That's so to me, it's like on your way out.
- 2:04:24Speaker 2: You sell pardons on your way out. You via some
- 2:04:29Speaker 2: god knows what mechanism that's probably been in place for
- 2:04:31Speaker 2: a long time. People are able to give you this
- 2:04:35Speaker 2: or that and you pardon that person. That's where it's
- 2:04:40Speaker 2: fucked up. It's like, dude, come on, come on man,
- 2:04:43Speaker 2: that's trading.
- 2:04:44Speaker 1: That's how it works.
- 2:04:45Speaker 2: That's how it worked.
- 2:04:45Speaker 1: Give you a little of this, you give me a
- 2:04:47Speaker 1: little that, and we do it right in front of
- 2:04:48Speaker 1: the world. And you're gonna let out murderers.
- 2:04:50Speaker 2: And then especially if you got cood, so especially you
- 2:04:55Speaker 2: got cood, you got humiliating. They didn't give you your drust?
- 2:04:58Speaker 1: Is in he letting out Joe exact?
- 2:05:00Speaker 2: It's insane.
- 2:05:01Speaker 1: Let him out?
- 2:05:02Speaker 2: Why not let him out? You're gonna do kids for cash,
- 2:05:05Speaker 2: You're not gonna do Joe fucking exotic?
- 2:05:07Speaker 1: Yeah, and how is Joe exotic? Dming me? How's this happening?
- 2:05:09Speaker 2: I think he because he knows, because you will say
- 2:05:12Speaker 2: things like this, Does you have a phone, Joe, dude?
- 2:05:14Speaker 2: I feel at a phone?
- 2:05:16Speaker 1: Joe? Can you have a Twitter account? Joe?
- 2:05:18Speaker 2: I feel like right now because of you're like you
- 2:05:23Speaker 2: aiding Trump and getting elected and I don't think you're
- 2:05:26Speaker 2: the kind of person to do this, But I do
- 2:05:28Speaker 2: feel like you could probably call in, like at least
- 2:05:30Speaker 2: one favor, get Joe exotic out, dude, why not for
- 2:05:34Speaker 2: all of us?
- 2:05:36Speaker 1: First?
- 2:05:37Speaker 2: Okay, sure, yeah, I mean I'm obviously.
- 2:05:40Speaker 1: I think Trump committed to doing that, to releasing.
- 2:05:43Speaker 2: Really yeah, well, I mean that's that fine off.
- 2:05:47Speaker 1: That's true, Jamie. I believe it is. I believe he was.
- 2:05:49Speaker 1: It was one of those bitcoin fucking things that he did.
- 2:05:54Speaker 6: Dan Or Dave said that the libertarian thing.
- 2:05:56Speaker 1: He said, Yes, that's right, libertarian. It's Libertorian and bitcoin
- 2:05:59Speaker 1: of the same category. In my brain, I'm barely tuned in.
- 2:06:04Speaker 1: It's all the same. It's like n FT libertarian bitcoin. Yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever. Yeah,
- 2:06:09Speaker 1: I'm a lubber turn like, sure, it's in paper, it's
- 2:06:11Speaker 1: a great idea, it's not it's not a real party.
- 2:06:13Speaker 2: I'm a sovereign citizen. I'm so really yeah, it's great,
- 2:06:17Speaker 2: but I'm not of this planet. Where are you from?
- 2:06:19Speaker 1: The plant? From everywhere? I'm from everywhere. Man, I'm Johnny Cash, dude,
- 2:06:24Speaker 1: that's everywhere. Man, what a great fucking Johnny Cash was
- 2:06:31Speaker 1: the man? Oh my fucking man.
- 2:06:34Speaker 2: That's an incarnation. Now a pick, like if we get
- 2:06:36Speaker 2: to like if there's a VHS Library of incarnations, there's
- 2:06:40Speaker 2: a long line to be Johnny Cash. I'm picking Johnny
- 2:06:42Speaker 2: Cash top ten.
- 2:06:44Speaker 1: Probably you imagine being Johnny Cash when you played at
- 2:06:47Speaker 1: fulsome prison fulsome prison blues.
- 2:06:50Speaker 2: It's the most incredible.
- 2:06:51Speaker 1: He played out the prison.
- 2:06:52Speaker 2: It's incredible.
- 2:06:53Speaker 1: Paul Rodriguez did a comedy special at a prison, like
- 2:06:57Speaker 1: way back in the day. I forget when it was,
- 2:06:59Speaker 1: but I remember I believe it was an HBO special
- 2:07:03Speaker 1: and he did it live from a prison, which is
- 2:07:05Speaker 1: fucking buck watch badass buck wild. I mean, if you
- 2:07:10Speaker 1: were gonna do that, you would have to work. You
- 2:07:11Speaker 1: know who could do that? Joey Diaz one hundred one
- 2:07:15Speaker 1: hundred percent. He would murder in the prison. Yeah, you
- 2:07:19Speaker 1: know metaphorically.
- 2:07:21Speaker 2: I mean if there was a simulator.
- 2:07:22Speaker 1: And this is again like, is this Paul beyond behind
- 2:07:27Speaker 1: bars live in San Quentin nineteen ninety one? Damn respect
- 2:07:32Speaker 1: of Paul Rodriguez. I don't even know if it worked.
- 2:07:36Speaker 1: Were they laughing? They look like they're laughing, looks at
- 2:07:38Speaker 1: they having a good time. That's crazy.
- 2:07:41Speaker 2: No, they don't have to I'm joking. I'm sure they'd
- 2:07:43Speaker 2: rush him.
- 2:07:45Speaker 1: How the guard's going to stop by the time they
- 2:07:47Speaker 1: beat him to death. I mean, fifty dudes just rush him.
- 2:07:51Speaker 2: Seriously, you're thinking about that before you're on stage, like.
- 2:07:54Speaker 1: You they like Paul Rodriguez.
- 2:07:56Speaker 2: I mean, but yeah, they all do you know? It's
- 2:07:59Speaker 2: San Quentin.
- 2:08:00Speaker 1: He was popular at the time, like he is still popular,
- 2:08:02Speaker 1: but he was like very very popular at the time.
- 2:08:04Speaker 2: There's a guy probably in the audience who like wore
- 2:08:07Speaker 2: his daughters in trails as a necklace.
- 2:08:10Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Like, right, dog.
- 2:08:14Speaker 2: It's badass. That's a badass move. Crazy move, that's a
- 2:08:17Speaker 2: badass move. I mean, dude, when you think about all
- 2:08:23Speaker 2: the ship that we're talking about, and really when you
- 2:08:25Speaker 2: sort of look at like just among our group of friends,
- 2:08:29Speaker 2: the insane events the last few months.
- 2:08:32Speaker 1: Tony Hinchcliff was misquoted by Obama. I mean, there's a
- 2:08:37Speaker 1: speaker at the Trump rally said Puerto Rico is a
- 2:08:40Speaker 1: pile of garbage. Those are human beings, dude. I mean,
- 2:08:45Speaker 1: nobody's age harder than that. Dude.
- 2:08:48Speaker 2: Well he's withered, bro, But.
- 2:08:50Speaker 1: Those are like is it a vampire years? These are
- 2:08:53Speaker 1: like you got bit by a leech, like you got
- 2:08:55Speaker 1: a parasite.
- 2:08:56Speaker 2: Years reading the necronomic Honers, He's.
- 2:08:59Speaker 1: Yeah, right, right right, you have the archaic Covenant in
- 2:09:01Speaker 1: your bedroom. Yeah, you're cooking.
- 2:09:03Speaker 2: You're cooking.
- 2:09:04Speaker 1: You're aging, like you look, you aged fifty fucking years.
- 2:09:07Speaker 1: You're a really good looking seventy year old. There's something weird.
- 2:09:11Speaker 2: I mean, just think about, like what that's like to
- 2:09:15Speaker 2: be the star the you know you're I'm saying, as
- 2:09:19Speaker 2: far as power goes, I think power must be so addictive.
- 2:09:22Speaker 2: And so you're the fucking president, not just the president.
- 2:09:25Speaker 2: You're like this kind of rock star president for.
- 2:09:27Speaker 1: A second, Yeah, one of the greatest presidents of all time,
- 2:09:29Speaker 1: of all times.
- 2:09:30Speaker 2: And so you lose that power and now what you
- 2:09:34Speaker 2: know what I mean, now what? And then you try
- 2:09:36Speaker 2: desperately to like grab control of the thing and you can't.
- 2:09:40Speaker 2: It didn't work. So essentially, whatever like prana or energy
- 2:09:46Speaker 2: you've been extracting from having that kind of power, it's gone.
- 2:09:49Speaker 1: It's gone.
- 2:09:49Speaker 2: Now you have the nice house, but like really like
- 2:09:52Speaker 2: what's left. You are at the fucking control board for
- 2:09:57Speaker 2: like America, and now nothing, You wither, you deflate, you
- 2:10:03Speaker 2: like no purpose, no purpose.
- 2:10:05Speaker 1: I think we're gonna be able to read minds in
- 2:10:06Speaker 1: five years and all this is gonna be a moot point. Well, no,
- 2:10:09Speaker 1: for me, it's gonna all go out the window. I
- 2:10:11Speaker 1: think quantum computing is gonna crush encryption. Yep, We're gonna
- 2:10:15Speaker 1: have a real problem with currency worldwide. We're gonna have
- 2:10:17Speaker 1: to figure out how to redistribute resources without conventional capitalism.
- 2:10:22Speaker 1: There's gonna be some weird new shifting that's gonna come
- 2:10:26Speaker 1: along with the birth of this AI that's way more
- 2:10:29Speaker 1: intelligent than us, and everything's gonna get It's super fucking weird,
- 2:10:33Speaker 1: and we're not ready for it. And we think that we, oh,
- 2:10:35Speaker 1: we have to be ready for It's not gonna happen
- 2:10:36Speaker 1: like that because I'm not ready for it. No one's
- 2:10:38Speaker 1: ready for it. No, it couldn't happen. Just like a
- 2:10:40Speaker 1: super volcano and just like an asteroid impact, it can
- 2:10:42Speaker 1: happen and you're not ready for it. That's right, And
- 2:10:44Speaker 1: a lot of us might not make it.
- 2:10:46Speaker 2: That's dude. Okay, this as far as like AGI goes it,
- 2:10:52Speaker 2: Like when Altman came out and said this year, I
- 2:10:56Speaker 2: don't the the some of the CEO from the company
- 2:10:59Speaker 2: I think they may claw. I don't know. One of
- 2:11:00Speaker 2: the other Ais said two years from now, I think.
- 2:11:04Speaker 2: But the idea is if Biden came out and was like, guys,
- 2:11:10Speaker 2: got some news. We've detected a mothership. It's coming to
- 2:11:14Speaker 2: the planet in a year. If we don't understand anything
- 2:11:18Speaker 2: about who they are other than they must have extraordinary
- 2:11:21Speaker 2: technology based on what we've seen of their ship, I'm good.
- 2:11:24Speaker 2: The whole planet the next few years would just be
- 2:11:27Speaker 2: getting ready. NASA, anthropologists, philosopher, scientists, defense people. What do
- 2:11:32Speaker 2: we do if they want to fuck us up?
- 2:11:34Speaker 1: What do we do?
- 2:11:35Speaker 2: How do you interact with alias? But having these tech
- 2:11:38Speaker 2: people say we are about to have a brand new species,
- 2:11:43Speaker 2: essentially a technological species, and AGI is coming to the
- 2:11:47Speaker 2: planet that will surpass us as far as being able
- 2:11:52Speaker 2: to solve problems, will know everything. It's going to be
- 2:11:56Speaker 2: earn about a year, maybe two years, you would think
- 2:11:59Speaker 2: the reaction that would be, Okay, we've got to get
- 2:12:01Speaker 2: ready for this. What does that mean? What's gonna happen and.
- 2:12:04Speaker 1: We can't get ready. Maybe that's what this scramble is
- 2:12:06Speaker 1: all about, that we just have to fucking die screaming
- 2:12:11Speaker 1: Merry Christmas, maybe it can't be solved, just like Australia
- 2:12:17Speaker 1: pithecs can't figure out how to make a plane. It's
- 2:12:20Speaker 1: we're not prepared for it, and we're not supposed to last.
- 2:12:23Speaker 1: We're supposed to carry on to the next thing, and
- 2:12:26Speaker 1: the next thing will still be us. That's what's gonna
- 2:12:29Speaker 1: be weird. The next thing is going to still be us.
- 2:12:31Speaker 1: We just want us to stay us like this. We
- 2:12:33Speaker 1: want you know, fucking blue songs and drink whiskey. Sure,
- 2:12:37Speaker 1: we want to smoke cigarettes, we want to like get
- 2:12:40Speaker 1: in fist fights. We want we want us to stay us. Well,
- 2:12:43Speaker 1: it's you know, it's not going to happen.
- 2:12:46Speaker 2: I'm sure if you could travel back in time and
- 2:12:49Speaker 2: there was an intelligent, semi intelligent h version of humanity,
- 2:12:54Speaker 2: one of our ancestors who still had a workable tale,
- 2:12:58Speaker 2: and you're like, hey, I want to show you what
- 2:13:00Speaker 2: you're going to grow into, and probably there'd be a
- 2:13:03Speaker 2: lot of things they are excited about. Whoa cars, incredible,
- 2:13:07Speaker 2: Jesus Christ, you can shit in your own house.
- 2:13:09Speaker 1: Wow.
- 2:13:10Speaker 2: But then they would see that we didn't have tails,
- 2:13:13Speaker 2: and they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, I'm not doing that.
- 2:13:17Speaker 2: If I lose my tail. So this is for sure
- 2:13:22Speaker 2: the sort of cultural drama that we're seeing is and
- 2:13:27Speaker 2: you know, the trans controversy. There's aspects to it where like, yeah,
- 2:13:35Speaker 2: why you shouldn't be in sports, But the reality is
- 2:13:39Speaker 2: where we're going is going to make that controversy seem
- 2:13:44Speaker 2: like nothing.
- 2:13:45Speaker 1: Not only that, it seems like if you wanted to
- 2:13:48Speaker 1: have an evolutionary path towards a genderless society, wouldn't you
- 2:13:53Speaker 1: have that society? If you wanted to tame the wild primate,
- 2:13:57Speaker 1: wouldn't you have that society? Be completely addicted to plastic,
- 2:14:02Speaker 1: These plastic for everything, which is an endicrine disruptor. So
- 2:14:06Speaker 1: you have these plastic and these chemicals that get into
- 2:14:10Speaker 1: the body lower testosterone. Shrink dicks, shrink taints. Doctor Shanniswan's shrinks.
- 2:14:17Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Shanniswan. Have you ever talked to her?
- 2:14:20Speaker 2: I didn't know the tank could shrink.
- 2:14:21Speaker 1: You should talk? No, Well, it's it's in utero. So
- 2:14:24Speaker 1: this is what happens when you introduce mammals. That Her
- 2:14:28Speaker 1: book is called Countdown. That's right. I used to remember it.
- 2:14:34Speaker 1: It's a great book. She's she's really fun too. She's
- 2:14:38Speaker 1: a really fascinating person. But what they found is with mammals,
- 2:14:42Speaker 1: when you introduce thalates, which are these plastics like microplastics,
- 2:14:47Speaker 1: and the chemicals that come off of them into pregnant
- 2:14:50Speaker 1: women or pregnant mice, the babies have smaller taints, and
- 2:14:56Speaker 1: then the taint is one of the best ways to
- 2:14:58Speaker 1: distinguish a male or fe in mammals. In males, the
- 2:15:02Speaker 1: taint is fifty to one hundred percent longer.
- 2:15:05Speaker 2: Is it really called the tank?
- 2:15:06Speaker 1: They don't call it the tank. They have a word
- 2:15:08Speaker 1: for it, she told me. But she calls the tank
- 2:15:09Speaker 1: because she's fun She has a thing on her website
- 2:15:12Speaker 1: called the jiz Quiz. It's very funny. She's very funny,
- 2:15:15Speaker 1: and she's, you know, a really distinguished professor. But what
- 2:15:19Speaker 1: she's saying, essentially is that these plastics are lowering hormone levels,
- 2:15:24Speaker 1: they are lowering birth rate levels, they're increasing in the
- 2:15:29Speaker 1: amount of miscarriages that women have, so that all these things,
- 2:15:32Speaker 1: she believes are completely connected, and that this hormone disruptor
- 2:15:37Speaker 1: that is on these plastics is causing people to become
- 2:15:41Speaker 1: sicker and a little bit deformed because your hormones aren't
- 2:15:46Speaker 1: expressing themselves. Correctly because they're being poisoned. Right, if you
- 2:15:49Speaker 1: were a society, like if you were going to get
- 2:15:53Speaker 1: to where the aliens are, they look genderless, don't they. Yeah,
- 2:15:56Speaker 1: don't you think that's probably us in the future.
- 2:15:58Speaker 2: Aren't you glad they're genderless?
- 2:16:00Speaker 1: Sure?
- 2:16:01Speaker 2: Can you imagine if the grays a big swing in
- 2:16:03Speaker 2: Dick's Giant it would be horrible. Those gray pictures would
- 2:16:07Speaker 2: be very different.
- 2:16:08Speaker 1: Very different. Standing over your bed, chacking off on your
- 2:16:10Speaker 1: face horrible. Yeah, while you're paralyzed, you like you're sitting
- 2:16:13Speaker 1: there like, oh, beas of shit. I think that we
- 2:16:20Speaker 1: are clinging to this idea of male and female. Look,
- 2:16:23Speaker 1: I think currently there are male and females for sure.
- 2:16:26Speaker 1: And this is why I'm completely opposed to biological males
- 2:16:31Speaker 1: who have mental illness. And that's what gender dyspory is.
- 2:16:33Speaker 1: Even if you're being kind, it's a mental illness whatever
- 2:16:37Speaker 1: it is or not well in who you are. You
- 2:16:40Speaker 1: wish you were a different gender. I fully support you,
- 2:16:43Speaker 1: that's not one. But you can't compete with biological female, right,
- 2:16:46Speaker 1: we can't pretend that you're a biological female because we
- 2:16:48Speaker 1: want you to feel good. You have massive physical advantages
- 2:16:51Speaker 1: they've been clearly documented. Anybody who says any differently, it's
- 2:16:54Speaker 1: full shit. Talk to Riley Gaines. Talk to her. She's
- 2:16:57Speaker 1: the expert in this shit. She had to go through
- 2:16:59Speaker 1: that shit with swim.
- 2:17:00Speaker 2: It feel you have to say that it's so crazy.
- 2:17:04Speaker 1: It's so crazy that you have to say that to
- 2:17:06Speaker 1: liberals who always wanted to protect women. The whole thing
- 2:17:09Speaker 1: is bonkers. But it just goes to show you it's
- 2:17:11Speaker 1: not real. This idea of left and right is not real.
- 2:17:15Speaker 1: These are just masks that people put on. These are
- 2:17:18Speaker 1: just a conglomeration of opinions that people adopt. They most
- 2:17:22Speaker 1: people have not thought most of the things through. They
- 2:17:24Speaker 1: don't have the time. They have to work off fucking day.
- 2:17:28Speaker 1: They have a family, Maybe they have a hobby. They're
- 2:17:30Speaker 1: trying to get out and play hoops with their friends. Right,
- 2:17:32Speaker 1: maybe they get together with their buddies and they want
- 2:17:34Speaker 1: to play video games. Yeah, one night a week, you know,
- 2:17:37Speaker 1: like Jesus Christ, they don't have fucking time to pay
- 2:17:40Speaker 1: attention to all this crazy shit, And that's what's really
- 2:17:43Speaker 1: going on. Most people are just like deciding that, you know,
- 2:17:47Speaker 1: I'm a progressive. I will repeat progressive talking points I
- 2:17:50Speaker 1: will violently defend a woman's right to choose. And they
- 2:17:53Speaker 1: get into these patterns, and then the same thing happens
- 2:17:56Speaker 1: on the right, the exact same thing, exact same thing.
- 2:18:00Speaker 1: That's why, like the right is against the war in
- 2:18:03Speaker 1: Ukraine and the left is supporting it. It's like this
- 2:18:05Speaker 1: is like Vietnam and reverse. The whole thing is fucking bananas, right.
- 2:18:09Speaker 1: You know, the right is insisting on free speech. They
- 2:18:12Speaker 1: were the motherfuckers that were censoring everybody. They wanted to
- 2:18:15Speaker 1: lock Howard's Stern up in jail out. He had to
- 2:18:17Speaker 1: fight the they sued him, his fucking para company had
- 2:18:21Speaker 1: to play untold amounts of money. I don't even know
- 2:18:23Speaker 1: how much money did Howard Stern's company get fined. It
- 2:18:26Speaker 1: was hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not billions, insane
- 2:18:29Speaker 1: amounts of money. The fucking government was trying to shut
- 2:18:32Speaker 1: down a radio guy for talking shit.
- 2:18:35Speaker 2: It's crazy.
- 2:18:36Speaker 1: So and now that's the left. It's just patterns, man,
- 2:18:40Speaker 1: It's just patterns where people can justify certain behaviors because
- 2:18:44Speaker 1: it aligns with their ideology.
- 2:18:46Speaker 2: That's right. And also where it gets really fucked up
- 2:18:48Speaker 2: is you are dancing to a song that basically there's like,
- 2:18:55Speaker 2: here's two songs. There's two songs you can dance to
- 2:18:57Speaker 2: the right song or the song of the left. The
- 2:19:00Speaker 2: metronome is beating out two I guess somewhat different rhythms.
- 2:19:05Speaker 2: People dance to those, they get in fights over. You
- 2:19:07Speaker 2: gotta do our dance. Meanwhile, there's a million other songs
- 2:19:11Speaker 2: out there you could be dancing to. And there are
- 2:19:14Speaker 2: songs that are much older than America, much older than
- 2:19:18Speaker 2: maybe the planet itself, which is That's why I really
- 2:19:22Speaker 2: think it's creepy the way that like Christianity or any
- 2:19:31Speaker 2: religion where there's theism, it's in the list of things
- 2:19:35Speaker 2: that should be decried by an intelligent person. We shoot
- 2:19:39Speaker 2: down this notion of God, we shoot down this or that.
- 2:19:42Speaker 2: But all of these religions, at the very least, they
- 2:19:45Speaker 2: give you a new song to dance to that isn't
- 2:19:48Speaker 2: fucking war drums that is, you know what I mean.
- 2:19:51Speaker 2: And they don't like that. They don't like that because
- 2:19:54Speaker 2: suddenly you're supposed to be perturbed, like, you know that stupid.
- 2:19:57Speaker 1: But it's also the arrogance of intellectualism. You get really smart,
- 2:20:01Speaker 1: and these ideas, these fairy tales seem preposterous to you,
- 2:20:03Speaker 1: that's right, and you don't want to accept that. Maybe
- 2:20:06Speaker 1: what it is is a moral scaffolding that keeps society
- 2:20:08Speaker 1: glued together. And it's probably based on some truth. There's
- 2:20:13Speaker 1: some of it that seems to be a history of
- 2:20:15Speaker 1: the world.
- 2:20:16Speaker 2: Oh and also to most people that I have encountered,
- 2:20:21Speaker 2: who have a lot of people have encountered who are
- 2:20:25Speaker 2: rejecting this religion or that, it's I get it, it's
- 2:20:28Speaker 2: religious trauma. I just ran into somebody at Best Buy recognized.
- 2:20:31Speaker 2: We had a long conversations religious trauma. They were raised
- 2:20:34Speaker 2: in some kind of like form of spiritual abuse, and
- 2:20:37Speaker 2: in that abusate handlers bingo and they. But but listen,
- 2:20:42Speaker 2: if you want to handle snakes, great. The problem is
- 2:20:45Speaker 2: if you tell a kid to disregard their rational mind, if,
- 2:20:50Speaker 2: in other words, the introduction to the conversation of questions
- 2:20:53Speaker 2: regarding this or that are not met with like, oh, yeah,
- 2:20:57Speaker 2: it's a good question. I don't know. But you're going
- 2:21:01Speaker 2: to hell. You're going to hell. You're demon possessed. So
- 2:21:04Speaker 2: then you experience that, and of course you must reject
- 2:21:07Speaker 2: the thing. It's like when you have a hangover and
- 2:21:09Speaker 2: you smile tequila. You can't connect, So I get it.
- 2:21:13Speaker 2: But the main thing is, what's what I love about
- 2:21:19Speaker 2: religion or Christianity is it's like, just try it on
- 2:21:25Speaker 2: for size. What happens if you pray? I know you
- 2:21:28Speaker 2: don't believe in it sounds insane? What the fuck are
- 2:21:30Speaker 2: they talking about? Sounds absolutely nuts? I know it sounds
- 2:21:34Speaker 2: absolutely nuts. Now what happens if you pray? Just for
- 2:21:38Speaker 2: a few days? What happens if you pray? And then
- 2:21:42Speaker 2: once you start doing the experiment, it starts off with like,
- 2:21:47Speaker 2: this is just I'm gonna do it. It's probably bullshit
- 2:21:49Speaker 2: the opium of the masses. But then you realize you're
- 2:21:53Speaker 2: getting pulled in, not in a bad way, but right
- 2:21:56Speaker 2: away there seems to be some feeling of connection, some
- 2:21:59Speaker 2: sense of something a little different than what you're used
- 2:22:02Speaker 2: to experiencing. And sometimes that can get really scary for
- 2:22:05Speaker 2: people and they're like, fuck this, no, it's getting me.
- 2:22:09Speaker 2: And it's like to me that that should be the
- 2:22:12Speaker 2: experiment of any anyone who's skeptical, And if you're skeptical
- 2:22:17Speaker 2: about Christianity or any religion, you should be. You should
- 2:22:21Speaker 2: one hundred percent be skeptical of oh, It's like what
- 2:22:25Speaker 2: Mark Twain said, religion is what happened when the first
- 2:22:27Speaker 2: comment at the first fool you. You should be skeptical.
- 2:22:31Speaker 2: But if you read the Gospels and you realize, like
- 2:22:37Speaker 2: the part of the story there is an invitation to
- 2:22:40Speaker 2: connect on your own. You don't need the priest class,
- 2:22:44Speaker 2: you don't have to listen to the fucking rules. You
- 2:22:46Speaker 2: don't have to like it's just between you and the
- 2:22:49Speaker 2: eternal and see what happens to me. That's the That's
- 2:22:53Speaker 2: the number one thing is just investigate, explore, and don't
- 2:22:58Speaker 2: let anyone subvert your rational mind. Use that as a
- 2:23:02Speaker 2: form of connecting with the thing. Even if you connect
- 2:23:05Speaker 2: via rejection, it's still worth like a wholehearted exploration at
- 2:23:09Speaker 2: the very least to experience a cultural trance. I don't
- 2:23:12Speaker 2: think that's what it is.
- 2:23:14Speaker 1: But maybe what that cultural trance is is this is
- 2:23:19Speaker 1: like it's a pattern that can you can follow, that
- 2:23:25Speaker 1: can connect you to the divine. And there's a bunch
- 2:23:28Speaker 1: of these different patterns. This pattern might be Buddhism, this
- 2:23:32Speaker 1: pattern might be Islam, this pattern might be even Mormonism,
- 2:23:37Speaker 1: even scientology.
- 2:23:38Speaker 2: Definitely, I think all of them, all of them can
- 2:23:43Speaker 2: be distorted.
- 2:23:44Speaker 1: All of them can be subverted. All of them can
- 2:23:46Speaker 1: have those guys that have private jets and rolls, royces
- 2:23:48Speaker 1: and you know, those fucking crazy arena guys. All of
- 2:23:52Speaker 1: it can go in that direction. But all of it
- 2:23:57Speaker 1: is kind of a moral scaffolding. That's it seems to
- 2:24:02Speaker 1: be designed to help us in this journey of getting
- 2:24:06Speaker 1: away from the primate instincts.
- 2:24:08Speaker 2: That's right, and getting away from and also connecting to
- 2:24:12Speaker 2: each other and transcending state propaganda like this is the
- 2:24:17Speaker 2: This is like my fa favorite verse in the Bible.
- 2:24:19Speaker 2: They're trying to tick trick Jesus.
- 2:24:22Speaker 1: They I don't know, they're as imagine being so cocky,
- 2:24:24Speaker 1: you thinking trick Jesus.
- 2:24:26Speaker 2: I would try.
- 2:24:27Speaker 1: I got it.
- 2:24:28Speaker 2: Maybe would be cool if you could want.
- 2:24:30Speaker 1: To bring out three card money. Imagine Jesus walking down
- 2:24:34Speaker 1: to New York City and watching them play three card
- 2:24:36Speaker 1: money and getting suckered in. You're like, hey, I thought
- 2:24:38Speaker 1: you were the fucking I thought you were the guy.
- 2:24:42Speaker 1: Hey man, that don't don't do that. He's you don't understand.
- 2:24:45Speaker 1: It's not the same card. Oh my god, Jesus Christ,
- 2:24:48Speaker 1: you don't have any more shekels. You're out of shekels.
- 2:24:50Speaker 2: Is that what they used shekels?
- 2:24:51Speaker 1: I guess what they have back then?
- 2:24:53Speaker 2: I don't know, Denarius, what kind.
- 2:24:55Speaker 1: Of dollars did they have? What unit of money was
- 2:24:59Speaker 1: around when?
- 2:25:00Speaker 2: Question?
- 2:25:01Speaker 1: Super good question. I wish I knew it be a
- 2:25:03Speaker 1: clever thing to say. Shekels sounds good, though. Shekels is
- 2:25:08Speaker 1: a fun name for the coins shekels. Shekels was it shekels?
- 2:25:13Speaker 6: He comes up with a Phoenetian shekel and a half.
- 2:25:16Speaker 1: Let's fucking go, fucking check, let's fucking go, it's shekels son.
- 2:25:20Speaker 2: There you go.
- 2:25:20Speaker 1: There's oh yeah, So imagine Jesus blew all his shekels
- 2:25:23Speaker 1: on three card money. Jesus, they just stick to be
- 2:25:26Speaker 1: in the Messiah. Yeah, why are you here again? He
- 2:25:30Speaker 1: gets hustled in a basketball game, like, Jesus, you're gonna question,
- 2:25:33Speaker 1: you're not good at basketball and you can't run those
- 2:25:35Speaker 1: fucking sandals.
- 2:25:35Speaker 2: He's doing this. You can turn water into wine.
- 2:25:37Speaker 1: That's just how money in basketball. He plays horse with people.
- 2:25:40Speaker 1: He keeps missing.
- 2:25:41Speaker 2: Wow, that would really be weird.
- 2:25:44Speaker 1: Jesus would have to be really good at badminton, and
- 2:25:46Speaker 1: he plays badminton. He's got to wine's gonna win. Well,
- 2:25:49Speaker 1: I'm not gonna believe you're Jesus. If you can't wrestle.
- 2:25:51Speaker 1: If you're bad, you get pinned, if you get pinned
- 2:25:54Speaker 1: really quick in a wrestling match, Like, what the fuck, dude, dude, Yeah,
- 2:25:57Speaker 1: he's somebody rear naked chokes Jesus thirty seconds.
- 2:26:02Speaker 2: You're like, I don't know even out.
- 2:26:04Speaker 1: He doesn't know what the fuck to do. He doesn't
- 2:26:05Speaker 1: know shit. He's a white belt. Why is he in
- 2:26:07Speaker 1: this competition? Jesus goes to the uf Open golf tournament
- 2:26:13Speaker 1: and everybody's like, Jesus fucking sucks at golf. He can't
- 2:26:16Speaker 1: even fucking hit the ball right, Somebody show him how
- 2:26:19Speaker 1: to hit the ball.
- 2:26:20Speaker 2: Why did you let Jesus compete in the UFC.
- 2:26:23Speaker 1: Jesus is playing pickleball. It's just falling down. I know
- 2:26:28Speaker 1: that people would be so disappointed in Jesus.
- 2:26:30Speaker 2: Everything the way he walked, just.
- 2:26:32Speaker 1: Bold gutter ball every time, you fucking dummy, what are
- 2:26:35Speaker 1: you doing?
- 2:26:36Speaker 2: Farts in the car, just that you gotta, like, dude,
- 2:26:41Speaker 2: roll the window down.
- 2:26:42Speaker 1: Just everybody smelled back then. I think farts probably like
- 2:26:45Speaker 1: cleared the air a little. Oh something interesting to smell
- 2:26:49Speaker 1: some new thing instead of these shitty asses I smell everywhere.
- 2:26:52Speaker 2: I just read that they used to think smelling farts
- 2:26:55Speaker 2: in a jar would cure diseases.
- 2:26:57Speaker 1: What it doesn't. How do you say, cancel my subscription?
- 2:27:08Speaker 2: How do you mail them?
- 2:27:09Speaker 1: There's some young lady that we we featured on the
- 2:27:11Speaker 1: podcast at one point in time, was making a ton
- 2:27:12Speaker 1: of money far yeah, on farts.
- 2:27:15Speaker 2: Dude, that's incredible.
- 2:27:16Speaker 1: I hope she didn't even fart in those jars. I
- 2:27:18Speaker 1: hope those dummies.
- 2:27:19Speaker 6: It wasn't even that long ago. It's twenty fourteen.
- 2:27:21Speaker 2: No, smelling farts in a jar is not cured as
- 2:27:24Speaker 2: these it does look and you don't know, you don't know.
- 2:27:27Speaker 1: Read that in twenty fourteen news hyrapractor told me that
- 2:27:31Speaker 1: smelling farts was the way to go.
- 2:27:33Speaker 2: These claims are based on a University of Exeter press
- 2:27:35Speaker 2: release that was not about smelling farts.
- 2:27:42Speaker 1: I imagine, have you heard of this new medication they're
- 2:27:46Speaker 1: giving cows to make them fart less.
- 2:27:48Speaker 6: Up during the plague? Oh yeah, yeah, that almost what
- 2:27:52Speaker 6: you said. That's not that's not far off from what
- 2:27:54Speaker 6: this says. It's just something better.
- 2:27:56Speaker 1: Far the Great Plague of London, the sixteen hundreds was
- 2:27:59Speaker 1: a scary time. The public is just stay healthy, including
- 2:28:03Speaker 1: sniffing a jar of their own farts. Back then, doctors
- 2:28:08Speaker 1: were apparently convinced that the plague was spread via deadly
- 2:28:11Speaker 1: air vapor, and that a foul smelling substance could dilute
- 2:28:15Speaker 1: the pollution. As such, some locals apparently took to storing
- 2:28:19Speaker 1: their farts and jars just in case the situation suddenly
- 2:28:23Speaker 1: demanded a quick whiff.
- 2:28:24Speaker 2: Honey, open the fart cabinet, Open.
- 2:28:27Speaker 1: The old victage farts. I'm gonna get them farts from
- 2:28:30Speaker 1: when I was twenty three and I had a good
- 2:28:31Speaker 1: gut biome.
- 2:28:33Speaker 2: Dude, Like, that's so hilarious. That is so fucking crazy.
- 2:28:38Speaker 1: I want to know how long it lasted, because I,
- 2:28:40Speaker 1: for what, I understand that you can't really fart in
- 2:28:42Speaker 1: a jar and keep it there. Here's by the time
- 2:28:44Speaker 1: you seal it up, it's probably sealed up with so
- 2:28:46Speaker 1: much oxygen.
- 2:28:47Speaker 2: There's only one way to find out.
- 2:28:49Speaker 1: And get Ari smell it in there and lie to you.
- 2:28:54Speaker 1: It's so gross. Ari just shits publicly out of his mind.
- 2:29:00Speaker 2: How do you get the fart in the jar?
- 2:29:02Speaker 1: I guess you put the jar up to your asshole
- 2:29:03Speaker 1: when you think.
- 2:29:04Speaker 2: A cap, But then you got to get the cap
- 2:29:06Speaker 2: on your.
- 2:29:06Speaker 1: Real quick, Jamie, can you get a little bit of
- 2:29:09Speaker 1: air in there? You know what I mean? It's like moonshine.
- 2:29:11Speaker 1: It's not one hundred percent alcohol.
- 2:29:13Speaker 2: You don't use it tube if you're a pro.
- 2:29:16Speaker 1: Yeah, you could use it to tube. You would have
- 2:29:18Speaker 1: like a diaper, a big leg, like a gas diaper,
- 2:29:23Speaker 1: with like completely sealed to your ass like a COVID mask,
- 2:29:26Speaker 1: and then you would just fart into that tube and
- 2:29:28Speaker 1: it would go into that jar, and then you'd ever,
- 2:29:30Speaker 1: you'd do it all day long. It'd be a robot
- 2:29:33Speaker 1: there that would like seal that jar off. Do you
- 2:29:34Speaker 1: know it's pure?
- 2:29:36Speaker 2: How do you know in your jars?
- 2:29:37Speaker 1: What if you gave me a half ass fart? I
- 2:29:39Speaker 1: want a real fart.
- 2:29:40Speaker 2: Or just the jar only has like, yeah, a little fart.
- 2:29:43Speaker 1: I want a three thirty am Taco bell. Far dude,
- 2:29:48Speaker 1: that's what I want. I don't want to carry you
- 2:29:50Speaker 1: where you're in the car and you buy taco belt
- 2:29:52Speaker 1: and you immediately hate yourself.
- 2:29:53Speaker 6: There's a study on it they used.
- 2:29:55Speaker 2: It depends on the st.
- 2:30:00Speaker 1: Metal containers.
- 2:30:01Speaker 6: Oh my God, it hates over days obviously, who did.
- 2:30:04Speaker 1: Oh my god, some awesome scientists Jackson.
- 2:30:09Speaker 6: Yeah, why is it called anal wait that chemistry?
- 2:30:14Speaker 1: No, that's my study. I field of study.
- 2:30:18Speaker 4: With that.
- 2:30:18Speaker 1: Oh my god, Jesus Christ.
- 2:30:21Speaker 2: Literally, I mean you farting in jars. The sad thing.
- 2:30:25Speaker 2: The sad thing about that article though, because it comes
- 2:30:28Speaker 2: out and so that means there's people who think farts
- 2:30:31Speaker 2: in a dark and cure cancer. And that means that
- 2:30:33Speaker 2: somebody was laying in bed dying and someone who loved
- 2:30:36Speaker 2: them came up and said, I know this is gonna
- 2:30:38Speaker 2: seem weird, dad, but I need you to smell this,
- 2:30:42Speaker 2: and like there there was people dying.
- 2:30:44Speaker 1: Again. This brings us back to the placebo effect could work,
- 2:30:47Speaker 1: because I think almost everything works. It just doesn't work
- 2:30:51Speaker 1: when your streets are filled with sewer. You know. I
- 2:30:53Speaker 1: think that was what everybody was dying of back then.
- 2:30:56Speaker 1: It did horrible, fucking, terribly unsanitary conditions. Everywhere everything was
- 2:31:01Speaker 1: covered in shit. Yea, everything was shit shitty water and
- 2:31:05Speaker 1: had no running water. And you have a bunch of
- 2:31:07Speaker 1: people living together, you have horrible diseases.
- 2:31:10Speaker 6: According to their study, one of those jars, if found
- 2:31:13Speaker 6: could maybe have the fart from the seventeenth century.
- 2:31:16Speaker 2: Wow, now that's a horror movie right there. Like you
- 2:31:20Speaker 2: find like a seventeenth century fart.
- 2:31:23Speaker 1: You sniff that fart, and then you immediately turn into
- 2:31:26Speaker 1: like one of those twenty eight days later zombies. And
- 2:31:28Speaker 1: then it spreads. This virus has had a chance to
- 2:31:33Speaker 1: adapt and evolve and plan its strategy while trapped inside
- 2:31:36Speaker 1: this jar and get back at the humans because it
- 2:31:38Speaker 1: doesn't have to die, so it lives in this guy's
- 2:31:41Speaker 1: butt gas and then it evolves over hundreds of years,
- 2:31:44Speaker 1: figure out through the multiverse how to communicate with other
- 2:31:48Speaker 1: other bacteria everywhere and devise a strategy yeap to morph
- 2:31:52Speaker 1: itself over thousands and thousands of generations of new viruses
- 2:31:56Speaker 1: to become some crazy rage virus, just like by the
- 2:32:00Speaker 1: way man Slater, which does a new one coming out.
- 2:32:02Speaker 2: Maybe here's the other thing. Maybe that is the fountain
- 2:32:06Speaker 2: of youth. Maybe the thing they're trying to hide from us.
- 2:32:09Speaker 2: The most obvious thing is if you smell an aged fart,
- 2:32:15Speaker 2: you're gonna reverse age.
- 2:32:17Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe a snake aha works a science on harvest,
- 2:32:20Speaker 1: how do you harvest?
- 2:32:21Speaker 2: The best way to harvest?
- 2:32:23Speaker 1: Science Oh there.
- 2:32:25Speaker 2: I guess not.
- 2:32:26Speaker 6: Don't try to catch the fart in their Yeah.
- 2:32:29Speaker 1: You gotta be accurate.
- 2:32:30Speaker 2: Can you can be accurate with your farts? Jamie? Can
- 2:32:32Speaker 2: you YouTube smelling?
- 2:32:33Speaker 1: How do you close the gap? You gotta slide a
- 2:32:38Speaker 1: little in there. You might get a little water in
- 2:32:39Speaker 1: your farts.
- 2:32:40Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fine.
- 2:32:41Speaker 1: No farts and the water together, separate, separate things. Oh
- 2:32:45Speaker 1: so when you open it, it'll be pure farts, but
- 2:32:47Speaker 1: a little bit of water at the bottom. How do
- 2:32:49Speaker 1: I know that the water isn't diluting and slowly washing
- 2:32:51Speaker 1: the farts over two hundred years, it's not how jamie?
- 2:32:53Speaker 2: Can you scroll up a little bit?
- 2:32:55Speaker 1: Yeah, fart science in my dograin farts always? Sorry?
- 2:32:59Speaker 2: Can you pull that up? A guy?
- 2:33:00Speaker 1: Just?
- 2:33:01Speaker 2: I find it interesting that someone wrote an entire essay
- 2:33:03Speaker 2: on how to do this? Will you go back to
- 2:33:05Speaker 2: the beginning. I just want to read the How do
- 2:33:07Speaker 2: you introduce the story here?
- 2:33:09Speaker 1: How do you bring this up to a fucking person
- 2:33:11Speaker 1: where you want to grant?
- 2:33:13Speaker 2: I recently caught my four year old nephew attending to
- 2:33:15Speaker 2: fart into a jar and the hopes of saving it
- 2:33:17Speaker 2: for a waiter. To surprise, grand.
- 2:33:23Speaker 1: This is not the first time I've encountered a little
- 2:33:25Speaker 1: boy with a dream of bottling his own farts. Here's go.
- 2:33:29Speaker 1: My younger cousin, let's call him Jay, had a whole
- 2:33:32Speaker 1: shelf of dated, mazing jars in their bar. He was
- 2:33:35Speaker 1: very proud of his collection. That kid is killing cats.
- 2:33:39Speaker 1: That's a fucking serial killer. He's a fucking shelf of
- 2:33:43Speaker 1: dated jars of his farts. What a fucking cycle path.
- 2:33:47Speaker 1: Jeffrey Dahmer has nothing better to do to just fart
- 2:33:50Speaker 1: in jars.
- 2:33:51Speaker 2: Now, I want to show you my jar collection. Those
- 2:33:53Speaker 2: are my farts.
- 2:33:54Speaker 7: Now.
- 2:33:54Speaker 2: That's New Year's.
- 2:33:55Speaker 1: Eve's torturing animals.
- 2:33:56Speaker 2: That's a fart when September eleventh happened, it's a fear fart.
- 2:34:04Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh my god. Wow, I'm talking. We
- 2:34:09Speaker 1: gotta wrap this up, unfortunately. What a joy, What a joy. Always.
- 2:34:12Speaker 2: Thanks for having me on, Joe, Mary.
- 2:34:14Speaker 1: You can just do another eight hours in.
- 2:34:15Speaker 2: A row, easily, easily, easily.
- 2:34:18Speaker 1: I didn't even have to be once.
- 2:34:20Speaker 2: I know, like me either. I don't know what happened.
- 2:34:22Speaker 2: Usually you have to piss like four times for that, and.
- 2:34:24Speaker 1: We were locked in h I appreciate you very much, brother,
- 2:34:27Speaker 1: I love you to death. You're one of my favorite people.
- 2:34:29Speaker 1: You really are. You are too man, You're a real treasure.
- 2:34:32Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 2:34:32Speaker 1: These are some of my favorite podcasts of all time.
- 2:34:35Speaker 1: This is a weird combination of the two of us.
- 2:34:38Speaker 1: I love it. Please think up in the weirdest way.
- 2:34:40Speaker 2: Man, it's the best.
- 2:34:41Speaker 1: Man it is. Uh that's it man.
- 2:34:43Speaker 2: I love you too, Christian Mary Christmas by bye
- 2:35:00Speaker 1: M