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Paranormal Encounters in California’s Redwoods: From Ghost Towns to Bigfoot · PNW Haunts & Homicides

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  People have found windmill parts, bottles, dishes,
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  bash tubs, like literally just like creepy
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  bath tubs laying in the forest.
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  - Okay, will any bathtub in the forest
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  is gonna be creepy?
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  - But you know what I think when I see that?
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  - What I see. - a Cialis commercial?
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  (laughing)
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  - Are you ready?
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  It's time.
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  We happened upon a bath tub in the woods.
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  I just think like what a cool like witchy photo
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  she thought of me.
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  - Oh, 1000%.
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  But it would make a great photo shoot
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  because that's undeniably weird and kind of creepy.
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  - It is creepy.
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  You wanna know what else is creepy?
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  (dramatic music)
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  - Hi, Caitlyn.
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  Hi, Cassie.
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  - Hi, creepy people.
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  - Hellooooo.
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  - If you're new to our creepy corner of the world,
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  this is PNW Haunts and Homicides,
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  where we chat about true crime, I don't know what that was.
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  We chat about true crime, the paranormal,
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  and all things spooky in the Pacific Northwest.
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  - That we do.
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  We also do a tarot reading at the end of every episode
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  for a little bit of deeper insight into our topic.
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  - The topic that is from the Pacific Northwest.
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  (laughing)
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  - Cassie, you didn't know.
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  Or what is it, PNW?
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  - PNW if you're nasy.
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  - Yeah, I think we should add saying that every time.
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  - Okay, Shite, do you want me to just do a second
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  take?
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  - I like us talking about it.
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  I feel like that's perfect.
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  - Okay.
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  (laughing)
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  - Amazing.
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  I like to be real here.
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  We like to show people the ins and outs of our show.
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  - Yup.
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  - All the innards and outards.
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  Okay, we like that.
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  - Yeah.
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  - I wish you could see the innards and outers
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  of the pod lab right now.
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  - Oh yeah.
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  - She's in quite a state.
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  Maybe we'll take some pictures and--
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  - Yeah, progress picks.
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  - As you can tell by the wall, we're still not quite done.
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  - Yeah.
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  - Decorating and everything.
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  We've got some equipmental things going on.
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  So.
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  - Yup, that's the word.
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  - Yup, and we've got one side of the room
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  that has some brand new acoustical foam tiles.
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  They're right above your head, so it's hilarious.
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  I am gonna be so distracted by those.
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  - You know what, when I walked in,
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  I thought it was a flat screen and I was like, finally.
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  - A TV.
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  - I thought we got monitors above our heads
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  so we could see each other.
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  I mean, see ourselves.
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  - That's hilarious.
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  - I mean, for like a split second.
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  - Yeah.
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  - I didn't like actually think you guys would do that.
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  - Yeah.
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  That would be really weird because it also
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  is partially on the ceiling.
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  So it's like the wall and the ceiling.
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  It also wraps around the corner wall.
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  So, I mean, that would be quite the flat screen.
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  - And not at all flat.
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  - I didn't quite see the other parts.
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  I just saw the black on the wall and the flat.
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  - Huh.
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  - And I got excited for a split second.
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  - Yeah, a split pea of a second.
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  - A split second.
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  - I don't wanna take that from you.
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  - You're still loud.
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  - I'm still loud.
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  - Mr. car out there.
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  - Yeah, we do have some brand new curtains
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  'cause it's helping us influence the light.
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  So the Cassie doesn't have to squint by midday
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  as the sun changes position.
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  - Yeah.
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  - There also supposed to be sound dampening
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  which I do feel like we're noticing a difference already
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  but it's very slight.
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  - Yeah, we'll see during editing what happens.
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  - Yeah, yeah.
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  You know, I really think it's the other half
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  of the acoustical tiles.
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  That's, wow, that's gonna be the game changer.
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  - I think so.
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  - Yeah.
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  - It's only for a voice echo a little bit.
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  - Yeah, I think so.
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  - I don't know what it's called when you're a voice.
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  - Reverb.
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  - Reverbs around the room.
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  - The reverbs.
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  - Well, I must know.
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  Who are you wearing under the table?
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  (laughs)
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  - Okay, so I'm wearing these very comfy,
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  Lengie pajama shorts.
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  - Yes, those, not what you meant.
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  - Do they have rhinestones on them?
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  Are they sparkly?
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  - They don't know.
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  - Are they shiny?
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  Then I don't care.
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  - Oh, okay.
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  So you meant the shoes.
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  - I meant the shoes.
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  - Okay, 'cause I'm trying to break in my wedding shoes
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  right now.
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  (laughs)
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  - She's been wearing them all day,
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  just talking about them.
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  - Oh my gosh.
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  - Look at my shoes, look at my shoes.
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  - Okay, so I've only been wearing them for a couple of hours
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  but to be fair, I did run into the bathroom
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  while she was finishing her makeup
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  and do a full high kick
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  so that we could look at my shoe in the mirror.
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  And that was, as you can imagine,
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  I'm sure quite the challenge because I'm five feet tall
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  and yeah, it's a feat of physics
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  to get my foot up into the mirror,
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  but it's a feat of physics to look at.
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  - I didn't even think about that.
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  - For all five feet of Caitlyn
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  to look at her own feet, your five feet, right?
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  - Yeah, five foot, yeah.
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  - I don't wanna make you taller than you actually.
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  - I mean, God forbid.
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  - Yeah.
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  - When my thoughts go to my head,
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  I assume that if you get much taller than that,
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  the air's just gotta be thinner out there, you know?
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  - You know, I've grown about an inch in my adult life
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  from, you know, elongating my spine,
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  like making things where they actually should be
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  instead of all crumpled up.
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  - Oh.
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  - And you know, I gotta say, I got some elevation sickness
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  from it, like I,
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  - Okay, so she's mocking me.
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  - Great.
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  - I thought that was genius.
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  - No, it was good.
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  It was good.
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  - You know you're good.
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  - Okay.
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  - What are we talking about today?
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  It's my episode.
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  - Yeah.
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  - So I think this week we're gonna go down to California.
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  - Oh.
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  - Why?
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  - I don't know.
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  - 'Cause they know how to party.
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  - Oh.
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  - They do know how to party.
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  - And they also have ghosts.
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  - So.
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  - Oh, okay.
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  - I forgive you for that.
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  - Not you, Cassie.
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  I forgive California.
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  - I was like, oh, okay, cool.
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  All I have to do is give her a party
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  and then I'm forgiven.
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  I'm already having a party pretty soon.
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  I don't know if you've heard.
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  - Where we're going is about 250 miles north
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  of San Francisco.
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  - San Fran, if you nasty.
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  - Some of these might not be traditional ghosts.
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  - So they're like weird ghosts.
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  Like they're keep it weird ghosts.
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  Like they're like.
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  - I bet like you can never guess in a million years.
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  Like what kind of ghosts I'm gonna talk about.
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  - Okay.
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  - I guess I'll just let you tell me.
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  - Yeah.
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  So none of these are ghosts.
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  Like they would be a spirit of a person.
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  Oh.
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  What?
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  I'm not gonna tell you.
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  Well, I'm gonna tell you eventually.
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  But we'll get there.
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  We do have some real ghosts too.
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  It's a real variety show this one.
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  I, okay.
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  I don't know if I should be nervous or excited.
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  You should be both.
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  That's a lot of feelings.
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  And I think you know how I feel about feelings.
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  You feel them.
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  Headwaters forest reserve is 7,472 acres
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  of protected old growth redwood forest.
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  Oh, gorgeous.
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  Which is also home to threatened species.
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  Like coho salmon, the northern spotted owl,
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  and marbled merlet.
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  Murrelet.
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  And I had no clue what that was.
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  So obviously I googled it.
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  Google says it's a small squat seabird
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  with a short neck and tail.
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  Giving the body a blocky shape.
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  It has a thin pointed bill and
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  an in-flight rather long narrow wings.
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  You can Google it if you wanna see it.
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  I was gonna say, why do I feel so attacked
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  by this description?
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  Like I feel like you're describing my body type.
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  And funny, we were just talking about that earlier.
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  How's it spelled?
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  So marbled like your favorite thing.
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  And the merlet, MU, R-R-E, L-E-T.
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  Oh, okay.
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  It's just like a, it looks like a bird.
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  Like a fox.
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  And like a pigeon.
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  And how to baby?
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  I was thinking like a kid tried to draw a duck
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  but like couldn't really do it, right?
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Pigeon 2 I see.
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  Yeah.
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  Very interesting.
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  Google it everyone.
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  Or you know, we can put some pictures on it.
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  It's a picture now.
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  Yeah.
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  If you want to, I have no pressure.
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  We should, but I feel like we should post a picture of it.
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  They're like kind of cute.
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  We should do a story and be like, can anyone name this bird?
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  There you go.
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  Cheating.
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  No, changing.
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  There is a hiking trail here called Elk River Trail.
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  In this trail has its very own ghost town.
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  Okay.
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  So not the traditional ghost.
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  It's just a ghost town.
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  That doesn't mean it has ghosts in it.
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  That just means there's no people.
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  Got it.
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  Right.
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  Okay.
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  Right.
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  Here I was thinking, I'm like, is this about animal ghosts?
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  Is this like puppies and kittens and is this like a patronus episode?
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  Yeah, basically.
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  No, I'm sorry.
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  All right.
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  Maybe later, no spoilers.
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  The logging town of Falk formed in the 1860s was home to 400 people.
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  A lot of people.
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  A lot of people.
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  A lot of people.
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  But it was the 1860s.
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  So there wasn't like that many people around.
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  I mean, I guess.
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  Yeah.
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  I feel like I have that many cousins.
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  Or they all come into the wedding.
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  We're going to bring it back to the wedding.
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  No, they're not invited.
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  Pretty much all of my cousins.
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  So we can leave that joke in because it won't be offensive to anyone.
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  The town was formed when Noah Falk opened the Elk River Mill and Logging Company.
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  So they were coming in and tearing all of the old growth trees down, which like back
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  them.
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  That's what they did.
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  But thank goodness now they're protected.
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  Yeah.
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  The town obviously had some homes and a general store, but it also had a cook house, a post office,
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  and a dance hall.
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  Ooh.
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  No one stopped in these lumberjacks from dancing.
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  And my dancing shoes are out of here.
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  Your dancing shoes.
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  It reminds me of that little bonus we did.
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  Yeah.
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  Oh my God.
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  The fight at the dance hall.
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  Oh, the beaver fight.
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  Join our Patreon if you must know.
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  Oh my God.
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  And you simply must.
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  It's really good.
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  That was so good.
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  Like if you literally pay us a dollar for a month, just to listen to that.
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  Like I think it's worth it.
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  I think it's worth it.
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  I mean, if you want to give us more then.
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  Yeah.
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  I mean, it's a gr- I just think it's like the funniest story.
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  It is.
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  It's a good one.
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  You did a good job.
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  Yay.
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  Good.
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  I did a good, gold star on your shoe.
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  Ah.
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  Once cars became more of a thing, people from the isolated town started moving to a larger
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  town nearby.
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  Eureka!
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  Oh.
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  Why did I say it like a Oprah?
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  I mean, I kind of like it.
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  I feel like that's how you should say Eureka.
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  That's how it's pronounced, right?
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  Eureka?
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  Yeah.
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  Okay, cool.
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  And with the depression doing its damn thing, the mill closed in 1937, which it did save
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  the trees and the people were moving anyway.
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  So I feel like it was kind of fine.
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  Yeah.
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  Maybe not for the owner.
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  I'm sorry Noah.
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  Yeah, it's a bummer.
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  If he was even still the owner, then I don't know.
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  Mr. Falk.
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  Yeah.
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  Eventually, time and the forest decayed the abandoned buildings of Falk.
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  The owners of the land couldn't have curious thrill seekers or hornetineaters all up on
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  their property, fallen through floors and shit.
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  You know how they are.
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  Not a good time.
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  So they hired caretakers, Charlie and Loleta a Webb.
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  Loleta.
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  Loleta.
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  I think that's how you say it.
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  - LOL, ETA.
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  - LOL, Loleta. - ETA.
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  (laughs)
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  - So what's your ETA, Loleta?
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  - LOL, what is your ETA?
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  - It said that Charlie would chase people off
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  with a shotgun, but it was a shotgun of rock salt,
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  not like actual bullets.
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  So that's almost worse.
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  - Well I'm starting to think maybe he was chasing ghost off,
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  like maybe he thought he was chasing ghost off
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  and using a rock salt gun like in supernatural.
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  Wait, maybe he thought he was chasing ghost off?
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  - Yeah, like maybe he was seeing like humans,
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  like a trespassing dude was like,
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  "Oh, there's ghost off."
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  (laughs)
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  - I don't know, I'm not Charlie.
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  - Really?
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  - Yeah.
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  - When he passed away, they decided since no one was around
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  to take care of all the buildings,
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  that they were just tear them down.
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  They did leave the caretakers house
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  and the railroad round house.
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  - Oh, which I was like, I don't know.
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  Is that like a wrestling move?
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  Like a...
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  (laughs)
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  - I was just like, I don't know what a round house is.
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  Like literally round shape?
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  - Yeah, so I googled it and around houses,
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  like something I asked for the trains to go through
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  and it would kind of like be like a sea or like a you.
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  I don't think it was totally circular.
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  - Oh, it's like almost like a covered like,
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  like when you go to the station,
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  you're just bleeding out the...
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  - Stop.
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  - My God, words are so hard.
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  - Quick Google, I think that's what it is.
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  If it is something else, you are free to email me
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  and let me know or comment or something.
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  - Or if you really like our British accents,
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  like we just got an email,
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  I thought that emailing I wanted to talk to you about it.
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  - Oh, well, I was just gonna make a comment
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  about how they like our British accent.
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  - Cross the pond.
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  - Yeah, that's...
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  - It's very good to hear that we aren't offending anyone
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  too badly.
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  'Cause we only mean it with love.
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  We just like love accents.
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  They're so fun.
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  And we're boring.
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  Listen to us.
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  - Yikes.
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  Oh, ouch.
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  But thanks, Rob.
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  (laughing)
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  Not so much thanks, Cassie, I guess, but thanks, Rob.
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  Should we do, should we just put on English accents
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  all the time?
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  - I don't know, it's a lot of pressure.
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  The only thing I would say would be like,
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  "Hello, hello."
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  I don't even know what part of,
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  'cause I know they're all different.
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  - Yeah.
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  - Sounding, tell me what part that is, Rob.
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  - I don't know, I wanna say Cockney,
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  but I don't know. - I wanna say Pirates of the Caribbean.
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  (laughing)
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  - Okay.
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  - I wanna say, I know just enough to be dangerous.
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  Anyways.
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  - I'm here, Rob.
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  Depression, decaying.
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  - Yay.
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  - 40-T, oh, wrestling move.
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  We were talking about the rounds, okay.
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  Even though the majority of the buildings are gone,
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  evidence of the ghost town still remains.
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  People say they can feel energy all around when they visit,
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  and they feel the sense of being watched
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  from the shadows.
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  - I don't like that.
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  That gives me like tunnel 13 vibes.
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  - Yeah.
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  It is just that feeling though,
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  like when you're in a creepy spot,
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  you kinda just like, you feel things all around you.
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  - Yeah, things, things.
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  - Things.
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  - You can still spot building foundations and piping,
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  which is kinda cool, and like, it's like,
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  it reminds me of like bones coming up
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  from like their grave or something,
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  or maybe like decaying down into the ground.
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  You just see like the leftovers of what used to be.
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  - I don't know.
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  - Just rambled on for a minute there.
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  - Uh.
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  (laughs)
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  - People have found windmill parts, bottles, dishes,
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  bash tubs, like literally just like creepy bath tubs
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  laying in the forest.
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  - Okay, will any bathtub in the forest
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  is gonna be creepy?
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  - But you know what I think when I see that?
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  What I- - See how?
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  - A Cialis commercial?
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  (laughs)
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  - Are you ready?
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  It's time.
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  - We happened upon a bathtub in the woods.
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  I just think like what a cool like witchy photo shoot
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  thought of me.
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  - Oh, 1000%.
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  But it would make a great photo shoot
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  because that's undeniably weird and kinda creepy.
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  - It is creepy.
• 17:58
  You wanna know what else is creepy?
• 17:59
  - Okay.
• 18:00
  - Finding a porcelain doll head,
• 18:02
  'cause those have been found on the property too.
• 18:04
  - No.
• 18:05
  - Included that just for you.
• 18:07
  - Yeah, no, I mean, I figured you left that in for me.
• 18:12
  - Just for your benefit.
• 18:14
  - Super.
• 18:16
  - Some of the things that have been found
• 18:17
  are on display at the Headwater's Education Center
• 18:21
  at the restored railroad roundhouse.
• 18:25
  - Oh, so that you can still see.
• 18:27
  - Okay.
• 18:28
  - Like that sounds kinda cool.
• 18:29
  - I know, and then they have all like the things
• 18:31
  people have found from the old town.
• 18:33
  - Yeah, I wanna go visit.
• 18:35
  - I wanna visit everywhere.
• 18:37
  - Yeah, you can totally go visit.
• 18:39
  - We'll go, you won't feel anything watching you
• 18:42
  from the trees.
• 18:43
  - I totally well, and I'm sorry,
• 18:45
  but I don't go places where they're already finding doll heads.
• 18:48
  - You know, I just had the best idea.
• 18:50
  I'm just gonna keep doll heads in my purse
• 18:53
  and then like plant them all over wherever we're at.
• 18:56
  So you think that you're going and saying.
• 18:59
  - Do you, like the worst part about that
• 19:04
  is that it would just, it would so easily work.
• 19:07
  - What?
• 19:08
  That's why I told you,
• 19:09
  'cause I could never do it to you.
• 19:10
  - 'Cause I'm so goal, I'm a goal of calf.
• 19:13
  - Yeah.
• 19:14
  - If I didn't like you,
• 19:15
  like I would totally pull that prank on you though.
• 19:18
  That would be the best prank.
• 19:19
  Okay, well, and for anybody who doesn't know me,
• 19:23
  just know that I trust no one.
• 19:25
  The Elk River Trail is a self-guided two mile round trip hike
• 19:30
  with informative signs about folks' history.
• 19:34
  This is from their website.
• 19:36
  Quote, we ask that you respect the natural
• 19:39
  and cultural resources by leaving them undisturbed.
• 19:44
  The historical significance of this area is priceless.
• 19:48
  - Yeah.
• 19:49
  Also, it's plenty disturbed already
• 19:52
  from the sounds of it.
• 19:53
  - Yeah.
• 19:54
  - So.
• 19:55
  - And it's dick road, don't be a dick.
• 19:58
  (laughs)
• 19:59
  - Yes.
• 19:59
  - Just had to bring it back.
• 20:00
  - Yeah.
• 20:01
  - As always.
• 20:02
  - So don't be a dick because even though they say
• 20:05
  Charlie is long gone.
• 20:08
  If you're out there at night and up to some shenanigans,
• 20:13
  you might just wind up getting yourself chased out
• 20:16
  by a ghost with a shotgun full of salt.
• 20:18
  (gasps)
• 20:20
  - Okay.
• 20:21
  - Charlie's still roaming the property,
• 20:22
  protecting it from all of you shenanigans out there.
• 20:27
  - Okay, but who's supplying the rock salt?
• 20:30
  - It's ghost rock salt.
• 20:31
  So like, you can endless supply.
• 20:34
  - Great.
• 20:36
  - I told you the ghosts in the story aren't gonna be
• 20:38
  what you think.
• 20:39
  - Ghost town, ghost salt.
• 20:41
  - Yeah, I mean, I definitely didn't predict this.
• 20:45
  - That's fair.
• 20:47
  - Ghost of Cassie's brain is somewhere.
• 20:48
  (laughs)
• 20:51
  They even do, or they have done in the past,
• 20:53
  I don't know if they still do it,
• 20:54
  but they've done a Halloween event
• 20:56
  where actors have dressed up as the townspeople of folk
• 21:00
  and haunted the forest while,
• 21:03
  like, so people would go hike around in it.
• 21:06
  Like, a haunted trail type of thing.
• 21:09
  - Yeah, I mean, what's not, okay,
• 21:11
  like I can get behind that,
• 21:12
  as long as, you know, it's not actually haunted.
• 21:17
  - I mean, it is haunted,
• 21:18
  but then there's also real people in it.
• 21:20
  - Then that actually makes it worse.
• 21:23
  It's more confusing because I don't know
• 21:25
  if it's like, which is the ghost.
• 21:27
  - Yeah, exactly.
• 21:28
  - Yeah.
• 21:29
  - No, not for me.
• 21:30
  Never mind, I'm back out.
• 21:32
  About 35 miles south is Humboldt's Redwood State Park,
• 21:37
  where numerous ghost sightings have occurred.
• 21:42
  And these are like, regular ghosts.
• 21:44
  Like the traditional ghost.
• 21:47
  - They're trad ghosts.
• 21:48
  (laughs)
• 21:51
  I'm dead.
• 21:51
  - time machine.
• 21:54
  Do they bake their own bread?
• 21:56
  - You're a little bit more gorgeous.
• 21:57
  - You know, probably.
• 21:58
  - I have here that it smells like bread.
• 22:01
  - You walk into the forest.
• 22:03
  You can hear butter churning.
• 22:05
  - That would be amazing.
• 22:06
  I'm not gonna lie.
• 22:07
  I just will bread though.
• 22:10
  - Yeah.
• 22:11
  So unfortunately, these are not trad ghosts.
• 22:14
  They are actually even before that.
• 22:17
  They might be due to the spirits of the synchion people.
• 22:21
  Oh, that are said to stare at you
• 22:24
  from the shadows of the secret redwood trees
• 22:27
  that they protect.
• 22:29
  So they're not menacing.
• 22:31
  They're just there to protect the trees
• 22:33
  from the shenanigans.
• 22:34
  They're kinda like "shotgun Charlie."
• 22:37
  Okay.
• 22:40
  That still doesn't sound great
• 22:43
  'cause he had the rock salt in the shotgun.
• 22:48
  And I feel like he's a little more gong-ho
• 22:50
  on like if anyone's out there,
• 22:52
  he might try to shoot at them.
• 22:55
  Oh, but I feel like these ones are more just like,
• 22:58
  they're laying back just like making sure
• 23:02
  that you're gonna be cool to the trees
• 23:04
  'cause this is their sacred land.
• 23:06
  They were here first.
• 23:08
  These are their motherfucking trees.
• 23:09
  - Yeah.
• 23:10
  - They're not your trees?
• 23:11
  - Right.
• 23:12
  But they're not just like behaving totally indiscriminately.
• 23:15
  - No, they're not attacking you unless, you know,
• 23:17
  probably deserved.
• 23:19
  I didn't see any stories of any attacks,
• 23:20
  probably 'cause they didn't survive.
• 23:22
  - Great.
• 23:23
  - Great.
• 23:27
  Since 1958, there have also been a ton of
• 23:31
  ♪ Bigfoot Reports ♪
• 23:33
  - Oh.
• 23:35
  I totally forgot my little Bigfoot statue.
• 23:36
  It was gonna be enough.
• 23:37
  But our altar is full enough.
• 23:39
  - Yeah.
• 23:40
  - And this is not a lot about Bigfoot.
• 23:42
  We're not going in a Bigfoot.
• 23:44
  That's gonna be its whole episode at some point
• 23:47
  in the very far off future.
• 23:49
  All right.
• 23:50
  Some people say that their food and camping gear
• 23:53
  were trampled by what seemed to be giant feet.
• 23:58
  'Cause like definitely not a bear, you guys.
• 24:01
  - I was gonna say.
• 24:03
  - Bigfoot, yeah.
• 24:04
  - But it was just like a really big dude.
• 24:06
  - Like the Bigfoot to crumple that shit, you know?
• 24:10
  Takes some big feet to do that.
• 24:11
  So.
• 24:12
  - Yeah.
• 24:13
  - I don't know.
• 24:14
  - Just everyone has bigger feet than me.
• 24:16
  - So.
• 24:17
  - I just, I'm a little skeptical.
• 24:21
  'Cause I'm like, oh.
• 24:22
  I don't know, you're pretty good at stomping on stuff.
• 24:24
  Remember the snow?
• 24:25
  You stomped me a little trail on the snow.
• 24:30
  - That's true.
• 24:31
  That's your wedge boots.
• 24:32
  - Yeah.
• 24:33
  - I don't know why I remember that all of a sudden.
• 24:35
  - Because it was so scary.
• 24:37
  It's just like one of those, you know, you have like,
• 24:40
  I think like certain snapshots that like make up
• 24:42
  like your friends personality.
• 24:44
  And that's like one of my snapshots of you
• 24:47
  and like your personality.
• 24:48
  - Me stomping in the snow
• 24:50
  so that you can actually like, walk to your car
• 24:52
  and sort of sliding around on my-
• 24:54
  - Yeah, 'cause I'm wearing boots with no grip.
• 24:56
  Like an A-it and this stuff.
• 24:57
  - You're like wearing like, you know, like cute,
• 25:00
  like boots with the fur type thing
• 25:03
  and I'm like over here in my like,
• 25:05
  dog worker boots and I'm like, I got this.
• 25:07
  - Yeah.
• 25:11
  People even report hearing bigfoot's call in the wild.
• 25:15
  There's like a stereotypical like bigfoot call
• 25:19
  that like people who know about bigfoot know.
• 25:22
  I think it's that kind of thing.
• 25:23
  Yeah, and we're not getting into it
• 25:26
  'cause this is not about him, okay?
• 25:29
  - Okay, but what is the call sound like?
• 25:31
  - I don't remember and I didn't listen to it
• 25:33
  'cause I'm just, I have to be in the bigfoot mode, okay?
• 25:36
  - All right.
• 25:37
  - And I'm just not there yet.
• 25:38
  But I will link the article and it has a link to it.
• 25:43
  The sound, I think, or you can just Google
• 25:44
  like bigfoot sound.
• 25:45
  Why don't we just Google bigfoot sound right now?
• 25:47
  Let's just fucking do it.
• 25:49
  - Let's do it.
• 25:50
  - (YouTube Video playing) "Bigfoot is definitely in Texas."
• 25:54
  [Distant Bigfoot call]
• 25:57
  - So basically just screaming in the woods.
• 26:01
  - Kind of.
• 26:02
  - I'm sure Texas bigfoot sounds a lot like
• 26:05
  Pacific Northwest bigfoot.
• 26:06
  - I mean.
• 26:07
  - Maybe there's to have different accents.
• 26:09
  - I was gonna say.
• 26:10
  (laughing)
• 26:11
  - New think he wears a cowboy hat?
• 26:14
  - 100%.
• 26:15
  (laughing)
• 26:16
  - How big do you think it's belt buckle is?
• 26:18
  - The biggest.
• 26:20
  Okay, moving on from the bigfoot 'cause this is not about him,
• 26:25
  okay?
• 26:26
  - Right, right, right, right, right, right.
• 26:28
  California has 49 state parks dedicated to the preservation
• 26:33
  of Redwood trees.
• 26:34
  - Wow.
• 26:35
  - That can live over 2,000 years.
• 26:38
  - So they're gonna be there for a while?
• 26:41
  Is that what we're--
• 26:42
  - Yeah, they've been there a while
• 26:43
  and they're gonna be there a while longer.
• 26:46
  - All right.
• 26:46
  - That's a long life.
• 26:49
  That's what I wrote next.
• 26:50
  That's a long life.
• 26:54
  They can't all get away without some ghostly attachments.
• 26:59
  The trees, the trees.
• 27:02
  They might have some ghostly attachments.
• 27:04
  - Okay, we'll talk about it.
• 27:07
  Sprouting from some of these at Redwood trees
• 27:10
  are an extremely rare, parasitic like
• 27:14
  albino tree.
• 27:16
  There's only about 25 of them known in the world.
• 27:21
  The tallest Redwood is about 380 feet.
• 27:27
  And these little buggers can be from like 6 to 70 feet
• 27:32
  is the tallest.
• 27:33
  So they're 6 to 70?
• 27:36
  - 70, even though they're 70 feet,
• 27:38
  like they're still a lot smaller than 380 feet.
• 27:42
  - Yeah, but that's crazy tall though.
• 27:45
  - Yeah.
• 27:46
  - I feel like those are rare.
• 27:48
  I don't think they all get to be 70 feet.
• 27:51
  'Cause they're only a fraction
• 27:54
  of the host's lifespan at five to 10 years.
• 27:59
  - Interesting.
• 28:01
  - And they're called ghost trees.
• 28:04
  - That is so funny.
• 28:07
  I love that.
• 28:08
  - I don't.
• 28:09
  - Ghost trees.
• 28:10
  Do they look like a ghost?
• 28:12
  - They do.
• 28:13
  - Kind of.
• 28:14
  - Kind of, if you want to look it up,
• 28:15
  just like a ghost redwood trees or something.
• 28:18
  Their needles are pale and limp with a waxy texture
• 28:22
  and you'd probably mistake them for dead trees.
• 28:25
  If you were just to happen upon them
• 28:26
  without knowing about them, did you find them?
• 28:29
  - Yeah, in the pictures that I'm seeing,
• 28:31
  it kind of, it almost looks like a flocked Christmas tree
• 28:36
  to me.
• 28:37
  - It kind of does, yeah.
• 28:38
  - Yeah.
• 28:39
  - And some of them are a little like
• 28:40
  on the reddish brown side,
• 28:42
  some of them are a lot more pale.
• 28:45
  That is so, like it's so cool.
• 28:49
  And just very strange, do it the same,
• 28:51
  they're very interesting.
• 28:54
  They don't have chlorophyll.
• 28:56
  And as we learned in elementary school science,
• 28:58
  they kind of need that to convert sunlight into energy,
• 29:02
  known as photosynthesis.
• 29:05
  - Yeah, I see.
• 29:07
  I've been watching a lot of young sheldon, so.
• 29:09
  - I'm like, pretty up about that.
• 29:11
  - Photosynthesis, why do I say it like that?
• 29:13
  Was there some dumb video that we watched?
• 29:15
  - They had to, they had to, they had to, they had to.
• 29:18
  - Bill Nye the song, it's going.
• 29:23
  - Maybe that's what it was.
• 29:25
  - I feel like that's gotta be it.
• 29:26
  - Yeah.
• 29:27
  - Google Bill Nye, no, I'm just kidding.
• 29:30
  That was just about, I was ready to go.
• 29:33
  For fingers, they're so feedy.
• 29:34
  - So they survive by feeding off of their parent tree,
• 29:39
  which is why they're kind of a parasite.
• 29:42
  - Got it.
• 29:42
  - Okay, that makes sense.
• 29:44
  - And like anyone with kids, they kind of get that too, right?
• 29:48
  I have to assume.
• 29:49
  (laughing)
• 29:51
  No one really knows why this happens.
• 29:54
  Some scientists speculate that the pale offshoots
• 29:57
  help the host tree process toxins.
• 30:00
  - Oh.
• 30:01
  - 'Cause the trees have like six sets of chromosomes.
• 30:04
  And apparently that's a lot of genetic possibilities
• 30:07
  with trees.
• 30:09
  - That only six?
• 30:11
  - Yeah, I looked it up and I was like,
• 30:13
  they have less than us, right?
• 30:16
  - Yeah, I quite a few.
• 30:17
  (laughing)
• 30:19
  - But still, that gets you a lot of different.
• 30:22
  Like even with trees, they can have a lot of different
• 30:26
  qualities about them.
• 30:27
  Their bark can be all gnarly and weird,
• 30:30
  or they can have, I don't know.
• 30:31
  - Yeah, no, I mean, that's interesting.
• 30:34
  - Yeah, and some of them turn into albino trees.
• 30:37
  - All right then.
• 30:38
  - And they don't know for sure that it's
• 30:40
  to process toxins or anything like that.
• 30:42
  'Cause I feel like that maybe they would be far more frequent
• 30:44
  if they had to do that.
• 30:46
  'Cause there's a lot of damn toxins in the world.
• 30:48
  (laughing)
• 30:49
  So the trees were like evolving.
• 30:51
  - Yeah, that's kind of interesting.
• 30:53
  But, you know, trees also sort of are interconnected.
• 30:58
  - I was just thinking that like,
• 31:00
  their underground traffic, they're all like,
• 31:02
  basically connected.
• 31:03
  So maybe they're able to like,
• 31:06
  all kind of views that one.
• 31:09
  - I don't know, that's interesting.
• 31:10
  - It reminds me of an organ,
• 31:13
  and all of the trees are connected,
• 31:14
  and it's like one giant body,
• 31:16
  and then like that little albino tree
• 31:18
  is like an organ inside the body.
• 31:20
  - Yeah, I'm dealing with the top liver.
• 31:21
  - Like the liver, yeah.
• 31:24
  - Like the liver or kidneys.
• 31:26
  - Yeah, that's what it reminded me of.
• 31:27
  - I didn't mean to put this up,
• 31:30
  'cause we're gonna go back to Ureca.
• 31:32
  So I did mean to put this up earlier in the episode,
• 31:35
  but you get it now, so.
• 31:36
  We're gonna dip back over to Ureca.
• 31:40
  I can't remember where I said it was.
• 31:43
  So over there, somewhere away from the Redwood Park.
• 31:46
  (laughing)
• 31:48
  There's a listing on visitredwoods.com.
• 31:52
  - Ooh.
• 31:53
  - And it's Eureka's only ghost tour.
• 31:56
  Oh, this is a quote right from the website about it.
• 32:01
  Join us to learn about Eureka’s Haunted Past.
• 32:05
  - Bounty.
• 32:06
  - And it's haunted present.
• 32:07
  From its rough and tumble beginnings,
• 32:10
  Eureka has been a wide open town.
• 32:13
  She wide open.
• 32:14
  And as you will learn,
• 32:15
  not all of its stories can be explained.
• 32:18
  As you tour the streets of Old Town,
• 32:21
  learn what happened in Opera Alley,
• 32:24
  and what's underneath Second Street.
• 32:26
  What's under Second Street?
• 32:28
  - Yeah.
• 32:29
  (laughing)
• 32:31
  - Underground, kind of like Shanghai Tunnel style.
• 32:34
  - I was like I betcha there’s some tunnels.
• 32:38
  - Well, yeah, that seems like a fair bet, right?
• 32:41
  - Tours last about an hour and a half.
• 32:44
  We will guarantee you will never forget
• 32:45
  Eureka's other side of history.
• 32:48
  - Ooh.
• 32:49
  That sounds ominous.
• 32:51
  - I wanna go.
• 32:52
  I wanna go so bad.
• 32:53
  Just like,
• 32:54
  "I'm in Eureka, Eureka."
• 32:56
  - Eureka.
• 32:59
  - That's such a nerd.
• 33:00
  - Okay, well now we're gonna visit another place
• 33:02
  called Shasta Trinity National Forest.
• 33:05
  It is a campground in Redding,
• 33:08
  and that's about 156 miles north of Sacramento.
• 33:12
  So we're going all over Northern California.
• 33:16
  - Oh, what a...
• 33:17
  - Should we dip a little lower, too?
• 33:18
  I'm not sure.
• 33:19
  - Okay.
• 33:20
  - She nasty.
• 33:21
  - She nasty.
• 33:22
  - It's allegedly, allegedly.
• 33:25
  - Allegedly.
• 33:26
  I like it.
• 33:27
  - Allegedly.
• 33:28
  - Yeah, it's like
• 33:28
  a legend, also allegedly.
• 33:32
  I like it.
• 33:33
  - It is allegedly haunted by an entity
• 33:36
  that only reveals itself on Halloween.
• 33:39
  - Wow.
• 33:41
  - And I was gonna save this for Halloween,
• 33:42
  but I just like couldn't.
• 33:43
  - Yeah, I really, I just can't really sit on this right now.
• 33:46
  - Yeah, maybe I'll bring it back around.
• 33:49
  We'll see.
• 33:50
  - Yeah.
• 33:51
  - The shadow of a woman surrounded by fine mist
• 33:55
  can be seen crying as she walks along the river.
• 33:59
  - Okay.
• 34:00
  - Or on the water itself.
• 34:02
  - So she's the little like Jesus.
• 34:06
  Just.
• 34:07
  - Yeah.
• 34:08
  - We'll drop a Jesus water in there.
• 34:10
  Okay.
• 34:12
  I don't know.
• 34:14
  I feel like, mm, mm, mm.
• 34:16
  - Well, you know what it reminds us of.
• 34:18
  A lot of people compare her to La Llorona.
• 34:22
  - La Llorona?
• 34:22
  - La Llorona.
• 34:24
  - La Llorona.
• 34:25
  - Did I say it right, Cristina?
• 34:27
  - Yes.
• 34:29
  - Which according to Google AI,
• 34:32
  La Llorona, which translates to the weeping woman in Spanish,
• 34:36
  is a vengeful ghost or spirit in Mexican
• 34:39
  and Latin American folklore,
• 34:42
  who is said to cause misfortune to the living.
• 34:45
  And it was AI who said that,
• 34:48
  and it sounded right like what I've heard,
• 34:50
  so I didn't go into it.
• 34:51
  'Cause the same, all about her either.
• 34:53
  - Okay, great.
• 34:54
  - Yeah, that's fine.
• 34:55
  If you don't wanna talk about it, it's whatever.
• 34:59
  I don't have the chills or anything, so it's fine.
• 35:02
  The sounds of the spirit crying
• 35:05
  lures people in looking for help.
• 35:07
  Like they think someone is in need,
• 35:10
  'cause they hear someone crying, right?
• 35:12
  - I...
• 35:13
  - Locals even dare each other to go down to the river alone
• 35:16
  and see if they can find her.
• 35:18
  No, that's just dangerous.
• 35:20
  Allegently, some of them don't come back.
• 35:25
  - Well, yeah, I mean, just a body of water
• 35:28
  by yourself is dangerous.
• 35:30
  - That's true.
• 35:31
  I mean, they don't have to go into it,
• 35:32
  but maybe they slipped and fell over.
• 35:34
  - Yeah.
• 35:35
  - Me, me, me.
• 35:35
  - How little bit of hell?
• 35:37
  - She pushed them.
• 35:38
  - No one knows if she is avenging her death
• 35:43
  or just wanting a friend on the other side.
• 35:46
  - Oh, I hate that.
• 35:47
  - Wanting a little ghostly gab, if you wanna be your friend.
• 35:50
  - Do you wanna go see me?
• 35:51
  - It'll be a gab, but come on.
• 35:53
  - Oh.
• 35:55
  - But if you decide to go and look for California's
• 35:58
  La Llorona, don't get too close to the water's edge.
• 36:02
  - I won't.
• 36:03
  - I won't do any of that.
• 36:06
  - Knowing you might just fall in, like.
• 36:08
  - Yeah.
• 36:09
  - You wouldn't even need help.
• 36:10
  She would just sit there and be like,
• 36:11
  (laughing)
• 36:12
  "She just tripped over her own foot."
• 36:15
  (laughing)
• 36:17
  And then you would start a pod with her in the afterlife.
• 36:20
  - Yeah, except I'm actually...
• 36:22
  So, okay, I'm very clumsy and God helped me
• 36:26
  in so many pursuits in life, but I'm a pretty good swimmer.
• 36:30
  So...
• 36:31
  - That's great.
• 36:32
  That's good.
• 36:33
  Got that going for me.
• 36:34
  Not that I'm looking to test out this theory.
• 36:37
  - Yeah, just to be clear.
• 36:38
  No, thank you.
• 36:39
  - No, go push a gab, Lairona, rivers.
• 36:41
  Yeah, no, thank you.
• 36:43
  In 2022, at the same campground, Lake Shasta became so dry
• 36:50
  that a ghost boat was revealed.
• 36:53
  - Oh God!
• 36:54
  (laughing)
• 36:56
  - And someone sent you a picture of the ghost boat.
• 36:58
  It's really cool.
• 36:59
  - Okay, cool.
• 37:00
  Oh God, that means it was there when I was there.
• 37:05
  - What's it?
• 37:07
  I'm guessing, 'cause I went there before 2022.
• 37:12
  - This landing boat has 3117 on its side,
• 37:18
  which would have been a ship assigned on the attack transport
• 37:23
  USS Manrovia?
• 37:26
  - Yeah, Manrovia.
• 37:27
  - In World War II.
• 37:29
  Okay.
• 37:32
  - Well, tell us about things I don't really know about.
• 37:34
  - Yeah.
• 37:35
  - In World War II stuff, kind of interesting.
• 37:38
  - Yeah.
• 37:39
  - Although the bones are there, this boat is so decayed
• 37:42
  that they can't tell how it was actually saying.
• 37:45
  - Oh, the boat.
• 37:46
  - The bones of the boat.
• 37:47
  - The bones of the boat.
• 37:48
  - There were no people found with this boat.
• 37:51
  There have been bodies found with other ghost boats
• 37:56
  that popped up, but not here totally.
• 37:58
  So I picked a good ghost boat, you know?
• 38:00
  - Okay, yeah, that's great.
• 38:02
  'Cause yeah, if you could just not produce ghost boats
• 38:06
  and bones in bodies of water that I frequent,
• 38:11
  that'd be so great.
• 38:13
  I've only been to Shasta once.
• 38:15
  - Was it dry when you went?
• 38:17
  - Or was the boat.
• 38:19
  - No.
• 38:19
  - You were saying the boat was just under there.
• 38:21
  - Yeah, it must have still been under there.
• 38:23
  'Cause I think this was in like 20, maybe 2019.
• 38:28
  - Okay.
• 38:29
  - Yeah, I don't know.
• 38:31
  - Yeah, I was surprised how recent this was.
• 38:33
  - Yeah.
• 38:34
  Well, did you like the non-traditional ghosts
• 38:36
  I had for you today?
• 38:37
  - I did.
• 38:38
  - Where did Ghost Town, Ghost Trees, Ghost Rocksalt,
• 38:42
  and a Ghost Boat?
• 38:43
  - Yeah.
• 38:44
  - It's kind of cool.
• 38:45
  It's a lot of spooky stuff.
• 38:47
  - And we have a very spooky, alter goin on.
• 38:50
  - You did it up today.
• 38:52
  - Yeah.
• 38:53
  - Should we light this bitch up and do some tarot?
• 38:55
  - Let's do it.
• 38:56
  - Let's do it.
• 38:57
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• 39:01
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• 39:38
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• 39:41
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• 39:43
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• 40:11
  - Okay, we're doing some tarot for a couple of spots
• 40:16
  in California with redwood trees
• 40:20
  and all kinds of different kinds of ghosties.
• 40:25
  Do you have any feelings or no,
• 40:31
  it's gonna be this one.
• 40:32
  Sorry, you don't get any feelings.
• 40:34
  - No.
• 40:35
  - I actually, I don't.
• 40:36
  I was looking at the back of your head.
• 40:38
  (laughing)
• 40:39
  - I know, isn't it gorgeous?
• 40:41
  - Yeah, just 'cause it was my head in the way.
• 40:43
  - Yeah.
• 40:44
  - I got the six of sticks.
• 40:46
  Pick up sticks.
• 40:48
  - Six of ones?
• 40:51
  - Yeah.
• 40:52
  - Six of ones.
• 40:53
  - There's sandhill cranes on it.
• 40:56
  - Beautiful.
• 40:57
  - Yeah, that's fabulous.
• 40:58
  - And then I'll let you read the description
• 41:00
  in our modern witch tarot book.
• 41:03
  - Yeah.
• 41:04
  - And then I'll read the one,
• 41:05
  the little cute story from the Pacific Northwest tarot.
• 41:08
  - I love it.
• 41:10
  Keywords are victory, success, recognition, and satisfaction.
• 41:15
  - Okay.
• 41:18
  The six of ones is the victory card.
• 41:21
  You've faced challenges, won the fight
• 41:25
  and deserve the accolades you receive.
• 41:28
  Success and good fortune are yours.
• 41:31
  - I feel like this is about like the trees,
• 41:33
  'cause they were all getting chopped down.
• 41:35
  And then they regroup, they regroup.
• 41:38
  They took over these buildings of people
• 41:41
  that were trampling all over there.
• 41:43
  - Yeah.
• 41:43
  - Inirds.
• 41:44
  - They've reclaimed the earth.
• 41:46
  - Yeah.
• 41:46
  - Yeah.
• 41:48
  - Victory.
• 41:49
  - Victory.
• 41:50
  - Well, when in the end?
• 41:52
  - I win, you lose.
• 41:54
  Too bad, so sad.
• 41:55
  - Okay, and we dig at the sub-rate, correct?
• 42:01
  Okay.
• 42:02
  The six of ones promises a time of happiness and fulfillment.
• 42:07
  You've martyled your energies during times of struggle
• 42:10
  and overcome obstacles.
• 42:12
  Now you're on top and can accept recognition and rewards.
• 42:17
  - They're on top, 'cause they're really tall.
• 42:21
  And their recognition and reward is like having a sanctuary,
• 42:25
  a reserve to protect them.
• 42:27
  - Yeah.
• 42:29
  - In 49 state parks dedicated to redwoods.
• 42:32
  - Yeah.
• 42:33
  - That's an insane number.
• 42:34
  - Yeah.
• 42:35
  I mean, it's great.
• 42:36
  It is in the song of our nation or whatever, so.
• 42:39
  - It's true.
• 42:40
  - I mean, it's kind of a big deal.
• 42:42
  (laughs)
• 42:43
  - I don't like to brag, but I'm kind of a big deal.
• 42:46
  I'm like a national park.
• 42:47
  You feel good about yourself and your accomplishments.
• 42:52
  Sometimes this card shows recovery from an illness
• 42:56
  or setback.
• 42:57
  - Enough said.
• 42:59
  - You nailed it.
• 43:00
  - I know.
• 43:01
  - You nailed it.
• 43:02
  - Usually do.
• 43:03
  - Pretty much always.
• 43:06
  - In a reading about money,
• 43:08
  you can expect financial success.
• 43:11
  A long-term investment may pay off now
• 43:13
  or you may receive a raise slash bonus.
• 43:18
  - Arraise like growing.
• 43:20
  (laughs)
• 43:23
  - A bonus, like a little,
• 43:25
  - Like a little grown.
• 43:26
  - A little grocery,
• 43:27
  - Gosty growth,
• 43:28
  - attachment.
• 43:29
  - In a reading about work,
• 43:32
  this card can mean getting a promotion,
• 43:35
  receiving respect for your efforts,
• 43:38
  or seeing a creative project come to fruition.
• 43:42
  - Fruition.
• 43:43
  - Like fruit.
• 43:44
  - Yeah.
• 43:45
  - Like a fruit tree.
• 43:46
  - I'm also gonna take it as this is a reading for us too.
• 43:51
  - I love it.
• 43:52
  (laughs)
• 43:53
  - If you guys want it, you can take it too.
• 43:55
  - Yeah.
• 43:55
  (laughs)
• 43:56
  - Enjoy your well-deserved success.
• 43:59
  - We will.
• 44:00
  - Okay.
• 44:01
  - So we'll let you guys know.
• 44:02
  - So we'll let you guys know.
• 44:03
  - In a reading about love,
• 44:04
  the upright six indicates a time of happiness, love,
• 44:08
  and cooperation in a relationship.
• 44:11
  If you're seeking a partner,
• 44:14
  this card offers encouragement for true love.
• 44:18
  - I think like the trees are looking for a partner in humans.
• 44:22
  - In humans.
• 44:23
  - Yeah.
• 44:23
  - And like we need to love each other
• 44:25
  and respect each other and treat each other kindly.
• 44:27
  - Yeah.
• 44:28
  - Like in a good relationship.
• 44:29
  - Also, Cassie and Trees sitting in a tree,
• 44:34
  K-I-S-S-S-I-N-G.
• 44:36
  - Did anyone realize how ironic it is
• 44:39
  that I talk about how much I love trees
• 44:41
  and then also how much I love lumberjacks.
• 44:43
  (laughs)
• 44:45
  - It's like very, yeah.
• 44:47
  - Two things can be true.
• 44:48
  Okay, you contain multitude.
• 44:51
  - I'm a paradox.
• 44:51
  - It's okay.
• 44:52
  - Yeah.
• 44:53
  - Is that the right use of that word or is that wrong?
• 44:54
  - I think so.
• 44:55
  - I learn that word from Taylor Swift.
• 44:57
  (laughs)
• 44:58
  (laughs)
• 45:01
  - Your other true love.
• 45:02
  (laughs)
• 45:04
  Okay, I have an extra excerpt.
• 45:06
  It says, "Card of triumph."
• 45:11
  The thought-tiro labels, "The Six of Wands Victory."
• 45:15
  The writer, "Way Smith" Dak shows a triumph at Horseman,
• 45:19
  writing at the head of a jubilant procession.
• 45:22
  Salvador Dolly, however,
• 45:24
  takes a different approach in his deck.
• 45:27
  - It's surprising no one.
• 45:28
  - Ruler.
• 45:29
  - You don't say.
• 45:30
  - 'Cause he was such a straight lady.
• 45:32
  - Straight lady, she was right.
• 45:33
  (laughs)
• 45:35
  - His Horseman rides alone signifying an inner qu-
• 45:39
  - Wow.
• 45:41
  - Signifying an inner conquest rather than
• 45:43
  besting an opponent in the outer world.
• 45:47
  Hmm.
• 45:48
  Interesting.
• 45:50
  - Maybe that's like relating to the Lairona ghost.
• 45:54
  - Ooh.
• 45:55
  - Which is he?
• 45:56
  - That kinda reminds me too.
• 45:57
  In the card, I was like, "Oh, I think they're flying over water."
• 46:01
  Oh.
• 46:02
  Yeah. - I'm not really good at it.
• 46:04
  - They're cranes.
• 46:05
  - Or they just up in the clouds or is this water?
• 46:08
  I can't tell.
• 46:09
  - You know, I think that's interesting
• 46:11
  because it does sort of seem like it's open to interpretation.
• 46:14
  - Interesting. - I feel like
• 46:16
  you could make an argument for either.
• 46:18
  - 'Cause we did talk about like the Lairona ghost,
• 46:20
  she's at the river, and then we talked about the ghost boat too.
• 46:24
  - So it's like you're either up in the trees above the clouds
• 46:27
  or you're like above the water,
• 46:29
  and we talked about both those things.
• 46:30
  - Yeah.
• 46:31
  - Ain't that cool.
• 46:33
  - Interesting.
• 46:34
  Yeah, we might have to put in the caption
• 46:37
  for this week's tarot, like, "Hey, weigh in.
• 46:40
  Are they above the clouds or are they above a body of water?"
• 46:43
  - Yeah.
• 46:44
  - 'Cause I'm curious how people see that.
• 46:47
  - Me too.
• 46:48
  - How they interpret it.
• 46:49
  - Me too.
• 46:49
  - I wanna know.
• 46:51
  - I wanna pick your all brains.
• 46:52
  - Your all creepy brains.
• 46:53
  - Get in there and pick a rail.
• 46:55
  - Yeah.
• 46:56
  - Root around in there.
• 46:57
  - Yeah.
• 46:58
  - Like a little bottomy.
• 46:59
  - It's a little bit nicer.
• 47:00
  (laughs)
• 47:01
  - We would never lobotomize you guys.
• 47:03
  We love you too much.
• 47:05
  - Yeah.
• 47:06
  - Okay, tell me a story.
• 47:08
  - Okay.
• 47:09
  Success due to strong leadership, victory,
• 47:11
  and its recognition, praise, confidence, pride.
• 47:14
  Kind of basically the same.
• 47:15
  Things that you talked about.
• 47:17
  - Mm-hmm.
• 47:18
  - And this is the little story.
• 47:20
  She wasn't always the leader,
• 47:23
  but still she felt the weight of responsibility.
• 47:26
  Knowing her turn would come.
• 47:27
  When she took the front,
• 47:30
  she would spread her wings almost siblings.
• 47:32
  (laughs)
• 47:34
  When she took the front, she would spread her wings wide,
• 47:37
  shaping the air to ease the passage of the cranes behind her.
• 47:41
  - Oh.
• 47:42
  - Oh.
• 47:43
  - She would read the winds,
• 47:45
  finding the updrafts and tailwinds
• 47:47
  that would carry them higher
• 47:48
  and further despite their fatigue.
• 47:52
  - It reminds me of how you said all the trees were connected.
• 47:55
  - That's literally what I was thinking.
• 47:57
  - The big trees are helping the little growth trees
• 48:00
  to fix day alive.
• 48:02
  - Yeah, like a flock could be very similar in a sense
• 48:06
  to sort of how a network of trees, their roots
• 48:11
  and how they interact with each other
• 48:14
  in a way that none of us can even see.
• 48:16
  - Interesting.
• 48:18
  - I love it.
• 48:19
  - Nature is so cool.
• 48:21
  She would scan the ground,
• 48:23
  seeking the safety and restoration of a hidden pond
• 48:27
  rich with frogs and snails.
• 48:29
  (laughs)
• 48:31
  She would shepherd the formation of cranes
• 48:34
  to their destination,
• 48:36
  the warm wetland where they would survive the winter.
• 48:39
  She would guide them and they would succeed.
• 48:43
  The crane in front of her pealed off
• 48:45
  rotating through the rest of the split stream behind.
• 48:48
  It was her turn to lead now
• 48:49
  and she took it without hesitation.
• 48:52
  - Oh, that's so cute.
• 48:54
  - Yeah, those stories are really fun.
• 48:56
  - I like them. - Yeah.
• 48:58
  - Yeah.
• 48:59
  Do you guys like them?
• 49:00
  - I may know.
• 49:01
  - Do you guys like trees?
• 49:02
  - Nobody likes trees as much as you do, I think.
• 49:05
  - Basically the world's top tree expert.
• 49:09
  - Yeah.
• 49:10
  - What's a tree expert called?
• 49:11
  - A tree expert to man.
• 49:18
  - Well, tree arborist.
• 49:21
  - Arborist.
• 49:22
  - Is that like a tree expert though,
• 49:24
  or is that just people that trim trees?
• 49:26
  - I don't know, Google it.
• 49:26
  We have to know.
• 49:27
  - A botanist is just stuck in my head.
• 49:29
  - A botanist is a myth.
• 49:30
  - And I think it's like all plants.
• 49:32
  - Well, that's what I was gonna say.
• 49:33
  I don't think that's right.
• 49:35
  Oh, I like this.
• 49:37
  Okay.
• 49:38
  - I'm excited.
• 49:39
  - An arborist tree surgeon or less commonly,
• 49:43
  arboriculturist is a professional in the practice
• 49:47
  of arboriculture, which is the cultivation management
• 49:51
  and study of individual trees, shrubs, vines,
• 49:55
  and other perennial woody plants in dendrology
• 50:00
  and quarter culture.
• 50:03
  - Nice.
• 50:04
  - So I thought that arborist referred more so to somebody
• 50:07
  who does it in like a practical, like a trade sense.
• 50:11
  - Oh, I see.
• 50:12
  - Yeah.
• 50:13
  - Nice.
• 50:14
  - Okay, so that's right.
• 50:15
  We already knew the word.
• 50:16
  - Yeah.
• 50:17
  - You know?
• 50:18
  - It was rattling around in there.
• 50:20
  - You know what?
• 50:21
  We're not just harrots.
• 50:21
  Okay.
• 50:22
  - Yeah.
• 50:23
  - I don't wear hats.
• 50:25
  So how could it be, you know?
• 50:27
  - I just bought a hat.
• 50:29
  I own, I think two hats.
• 50:32
  - Two hats?
• 50:34
  - I never wear them.
• 50:35
  I did wear them when I was like in a car with no top.
• 50:38
  'Cause like your hair, so you were riding around
• 50:41
  in the car top.
• 50:42
  - Thanks.
• 50:43
  - And you thought the hat would make it better?
• 50:44
  - I had two hats and I was like,
• 50:46
  (laughing)
• 50:48
  the car had no top.
• 50:50
  My top was on.
• 50:51
  Also I had a hat on.
• 50:52
  But no, I just, 'cause I've been walking
• 50:54
  and it's been very sunny and I've just been like wearing sunglasses.
• 50:57
  It's a complaining that the sun is coming through my sunglasses
• 50:59
  through the top.
• 51:00
  - Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 51:01
  - What?
• 51:02
  There has to be an invention.
• 51:03
  There has to be an invention.
• 51:04
  - There's too many things to do.
• 51:05
  - And I was like, why don't I, I literally saw some girl
• 51:09
  looking real cute walking by me with a hat and I was like,
• 51:11
  (laughing)
• 51:14
  that's what people do.
• 51:15
  - Yeah.
• 51:16
  I'm sure some people do.
• 51:18
  Hats typically give me alien head.
• 51:21
  I don't know.
• 51:22
  I feel very dissociative when I wear hats.
• 51:24
  - Yeah.
• 51:25
  I don't know how it goes.
• 51:26
  I don't know if I'll be able to keep wearing it,
• 51:27
  but we're gonna try it 'cause it's a really cute hat.
• 51:30
  I got two girls one ghost hat.
• 51:34
  - Woo!
• 51:35
  - It's a little ghost girl on the front.
• 51:37
  - Yeah, thank you.
• 51:37
  - And like it has a little ghosty on the back.
• 51:39
  - Don't kill them.
• 51:40
  - So cute.
• 51:41
  - Yeah.
• 51:42
  They're here with us right now.
• 51:43
  You really aren't really tall,
• 51:44
  but in the background I have my TGOG.
• 51:47
  - Hi, Corinne and Sabrina.
• 51:48
  - Hi, poster.
• 51:49
  Yeah.
• 51:51
  Anyway, well, bunsy's.
• 51:53
  - Is that all we got?
• 51:54
  I think we're in so none.
• 51:56
  - Yeah.
• 51:57
  - Right?
• 51:58
  - We're like, we're up.
• 51:58
  - My little animal bones on my altar.
• 51:59
  - She has so many bones, you guys.
• 52:01
  I'm so glad that she brought so many bones for the altar
• 52:06
  to my house.
• 52:07
  - I got those from through the veil.
• 52:08
  It came in like a little sack of bones
• 52:10
  and your especially like youth like throw them
• 52:12
  or you like a reach in and pick them out.
• 52:14
  - Almost like a charm casting type.
• 52:16
  - Yeah, it's like a creepy charm casting.
• 52:18
  For sure.
• 52:18
  - I too have charms.
• 52:22
  - You're very charming.
• 52:23
  - You're made of zero bones.
• 52:24
  - I love bones.
• 52:27
  - I know.
• 52:27
  - You find bones in the forest.
• 52:29
  - Yeah.
• 52:30
  - We talk about the bones of the boat.
• 52:32
  - True.
• 52:33
  - Like the bones of the houses
• 52:35
  that were left behind from the ghost town.
• 52:37
  - Yeah.
• 52:38
  - I just like to relate everything back to everything else.
• 52:41
  - Yeah.
• 52:42
  Well, I would like to relate this back to when I told you
• 52:46
  that I had a realization suddenly
• 52:48
  as we were setting up the altar that,
• 52:51
  oh, I've never really understood this,
• 52:54
  but if I really am someone who's a little bit sensitive,
• 52:59
  maybe it makes sense that I don't really like
• 53:04
  interacting with bones.
• 53:07
  - Yeah.
• 53:08
  - 'Cause that has to just carry a lot of energy.
• 53:12
  And I can't even bring myself to touch bones.
• 53:16
  It's, I'm very weird about it.
• 53:19
  And she's just over there like cupping them.
• 53:23
  Okay, let me, I want to hold it
• 53:24
  and feel its energy 'cause I haven't really done that.
• 53:27
  - Mm.
• 53:27
  - And I was telling Caitlin,
• 53:29
  I can't remember what kind of school this is.
• 53:31
  That looks like a snake.
• 53:35
  - They have skulls?
• 53:36
  - They have skulls.
• 53:36
  - I mean, snakes have skulls, but I'm not sure if this was,
• 53:41
  I don't really prefer--
• 53:41
  - I really prefer--
• 53:42
  - I really prefer things.
• 53:43
  I really prefer not to think about anything's bones.
• 53:47
  So my apologies if that was a stupid suggestion.
• 53:52
  I want you to sit here and you're just
• 53:54
  comfort with me and think about these bones, Caitlyn.
• 53:57
  Ooh, ooh, ooh.
• 54:00
  Have you ever just held bones in your hand before?
• 54:03
  - No, no, I have not.
• 54:07
  I can say that I definitely have not.
• 54:11
  (laughs)
• 54:12
  - Interesting.
• 54:13
  - I mean, I think I have, but I don't know.
• 54:15
  It's just, there's, there's feeling about it.
• 54:18
  - Yeah.
• 54:19
  - Because you think it really I pitched sometimes.
• 54:21
  - Yeah, well, you're excited.
• 54:22
  - Yeah, it's interesting.
• 54:25
  - Mm.
• 54:26
  - Anyway.
• 54:27
  - Well, I love it for you.
• 54:28
  - I just feel like it's too intense for me
• 54:30
  and I'm not even sure exactly why,
• 54:33
  but I feel like I just got like a little bit of a,
• 54:36
  of a, I don't know, a pizzeria today.
• 54:39
  When we were setting that up and I was like,
• 54:41
  I really feel averse to this.
• 54:43
  And I feel like it makes sense.
• 54:45
  - And it makes sense that I like it.
• 54:47
  - Yeah.
• 54:48
  - Like, 'cause nothing ever.
• 54:49
  - Even though I'm sensitive, but like in a different way.
• 54:52
  - Yeah.
• 54:53
  - Like it doesn't scare me kind of.
• 54:54
  (laughs)
• 54:56
  - Well, also I'm the one who gets like the creepy cold feeling
• 55:01
  in, you know,
• 55:03
  yeah, it's like, hello.
• 55:05
  I know you don't wish to speak to me,
• 55:07
  so I desire nothing more than to carry on a full length
• 55:12
  conversation with you.
• 55:14
  - You've had a full length conversation with the ghost.
• 55:16
  - No.
• 55:17
  - That's like, first story.
• 55:18
  - That's just what it feels like every time I have like any sort of,
• 55:20
  (laughs)
• 55:21
  like that, I thought we were conversing for ages.
• 55:24
  It's very taxing.
• 55:28
  It's very, it's been comfortable.
• 55:29
  - 84 years.
• 55:30
  - Yeah.
• 55:31
  - Exactly.
• 55:32
  All right, well, we can say goodbye here
• 55:37
  and go move along to our next recording of the day.
• 55:41
  - Oh, are we gonna record for?
• 55:44
  - If you want.
• 55:45
  - Check it.
• 55:46
  - I'm just kidding.
• 55:47
  - I'm not in charge.
• 55:48
  - Wait, who's in charge here?
• 55:51
  She's like, okay, okay, the bones are in charge.
• 55:54
  - Great.
• 55:55
  - Bones are in charge.
• 55:56
  (laughs)
• 55:58
  - All right, let's do it.
• 55:59
  - All right.
• 56:01
  - Have a creepy ass day.
• 56:04
  See you next Tuesday.
• 56:05
  - See you next Tuesday.
• 56:07
  - I won't have bones next time.
• 56:08
  - Yeah.
• 56:10
  - Maybe.
• 56:11
  - No promise.
• 56:11
  - I will still be sitting here without cupping bones.
• 56:15
  - Who knows, I might be off in the Redwood Forest,
• 56:20
  cupping bones, sitting up in the tree,
• 56:22
  waiting for my lumberjack.
• 56:24
  (laughs)
• 56:25
  - I'm gonna,
• 56:25
  that's the wichiest thing that I can really picture for you.
• 56:29
  - So, then like, plot twist later, I am the lumberjack.
• 56:33
  And I save myself.
• 56:35
  - Wait.
• 56:37
  Were you needing saving in that scenario?
• 56:40
  - I don't know, I was up in a tree
• 56:42
  and I said, waiting for my lumberjack to come save me.
• 56:44
  - I know, because now I'm like, okay,
• 56:46
  now I'm picturing her as a kitten.
• 56:48
  So, all right, well.
• 56:49
  - I mean, all right.
• 56:51
  (laughs)
• 56:51
  - All right.
• 56:52
  - Okay, we can go.
• 56:53
  - Love it.
• 56:54
  Bye guys, bye.
• 56:55
  - You're creepy.
• 56:56
  (upbeat music)
• 56:59
  (upbeat music)
• 57:02
  - She would scan the ground, seeking for safety.
• 57:05
  And I like skip words like the,
• 57:09
  an A, all the time, and it's so annoying.
• 57:11
  - You're like,
• 57:12
  you're like Kevin from the office.
• 57:14
  - I,
• 57:15
  (laughs)
• 57:17
  - When, thank you.
• 57:18
  (laughs)
• 57:19
  - No, you remember the skid I'm loving about.
• 57:22
  - You're loving the chilly on your carpet.
• 57:23
  - Oh my God.
• 57:25
  As long as it's not on my shoes.
• 57:28
  (laughs)
• 57:30
  - I'm gonna come Kevin and around
• 57:31
  with a big bodicellion,
• 57:33
  spill 'em on your wedding shoe.
• 57:34
  (laughs)
• 57:35
  - We didn't talk about earlier,
• 57:37
  where we're like, oh, we can't eat around your shoes.
• 57:39
  'Cause I'll probably be the one to spill shit on now.
• 57:42
  - I was really worried I was gonna spill style
• 57:44
  addressing something.
• 57:46
  - I would be.
• 57:47
  - Yeah.
• 57:48
  - Also way to bring it back to your shoes.
• 57:49
  - Yeah, I mean, everything comes back to the shoes.
• 57:51
  You know what I mean?
• 57:52
  (laughs)