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Tackling the fraud in our elections and how to combat it · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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  It's the tip of the spare in the epic battle to defend the United States of America.
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  And National Security Hour exposes the wolves in sheep's clothing and the nefarious plots to undermine and destroy U.S.
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  national security.
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  Welcome to the National Security Hour on the America Out Loud Network.
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  I'm your host, Blanquita Cullum.
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  Imagine a summit, a people getting together.
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  What kind of summit would it be?
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  Human rights, helping students, feeding the poor, international relations.
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  But what about one defending the vote?
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  Yes, a lot of people have come to me recently saying, BQ, we're very worried about how the vote will turn out, whether the elections are going to be rigged, whether there'll be countability.
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  Is it going to be an AI vote mixing in with that?
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  Well, there'll be a problem with people trying to do it online or the absentee ballot, or will it be counted if you're overseas in the military until the last minute?
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  Well, you know what, folks, I don't know how it's working, but I know a man who is a very important part of a defending your vote summit, and that is our great guest.
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  He's the author of three amazing books, one in Spanish.
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  Creating the Declaration of Independence, constitutional sound bites in English and Spanish.
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  And I'm talking about my good friend David Chistokis.
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  And David's had a powerful career right there in the heart of where all the questions kind of arise in Chicago, because they say the dead vote twice in Chicago.
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  He was the Cook County Assistant States Attorney for Cook County, and currently the Chicago Board of Elections hearing officer and a Will County uh arbitrator, which you know, he worked a lot in the arbitration and counting the votes to make sure that the votes were counted correctly for President Trump.
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  But David Shistokus, welcome and tell us about the defending the vote summit.
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  Well, we're we're very, very excited that uh this is coming to Illinois because of course uh Blanquita, elections are pretty much too important to leave to the government.
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  Uh unfortunately, over the years, people have gotten accustomed to uh more or less or previously they trusted the government to do this well.
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  And uh we I believe we've come to realize that we cannot trust the government to do this well, particularly in areas where there's domination by a particular political party.
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  Um, either on either team, uh team, uh, you know, because of course uh power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
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  And uh over a period of time when uh people think no one's looking, uh, they do some strange things about managing elections.
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  Um you covered some interesting situations where literally people who were entrusted with counting the vote were caught with bags of votes that they destroyed.
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  Those were uh those were some some of the circumstances that went on.
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  Uh, you know, I can go back to 200 16 uh where I found 150,000 illegally opened ballots in Broward County, Florida.
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  Uh we went up uh we want to actually wind up uh having a uh judge come to monitor uh the uh counting of the votes in uh Broward County.
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  That's a um and that was uh a situation regarding the uh elections.
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  Uh of course, President Trump uh his first election.
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  And uh it was kind of interesting that uh one of the one of the gals I worked with uh there, Janine Bresso, she's now uh deputy White House counsel.
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  Uh she now um is the second in uh command in the White House counsel's office, and uh she had told me she was from Florida, and she had told me she said, you know, uh I talked to some of my friends uh in uh in and around the Fort Lauderdale area who are Democrats, and they said we've been doing this for years, and it took a thug from Chicago uh to figure it out, you know.
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  So yeah.
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  Which they're kind of notorious.
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  Chicago's been kind of notorious about that.
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  I mean, kind of uh, as I joked, but the the the saying used to be that in Chicago the dead vote twice.
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  Where did this all start from?
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  How long has the the inner propriety of votes been going on in Chicago?
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  What happened to create this legend?
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  Well, that might be a legend in Chicago, but when I do presentations on this, I usually start with uh Lyndon Johnson in 1948, uh when they uh found boxes of ballots laying uh laying by a river uh in uh in Texas.
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  Uh when they talk about the river vote coming in, uh they um they want to bring it in boxes of ballots and landslide linden won by uh 81 votes, uh and that uh made him a United States senator, and that's made all the difference in a lot of the history in terms of Vietnam, etc.
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  etc.
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  That's how important these uh these situations are.
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  But of course, following uh that that was in 48 in 1960.
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  Johnson was uh John Kennedy's running mate.
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  And uh John uh John Kennedy uh was very good friends with, well, his dad was good friends with Mayor Richard J.
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  Daly, uh the first uh first Mayor Daly, and uh uh there's reason to believe that uh the 1960 election where uh he won uh Illinois by I believe the entire state by about 13,000 votes.
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  Uh they kept saying, Well, let's wait for the river wards uh to come in the city, and the river wards were uh related to where uh the first mayor Daly actually lived in an area of the city called Bridgeport, and ultimately uh John Kennedy won Illinois, and strangely enough, Texas, curiously.
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  Um Texas uh was brought to brought along by Lyndon Johnson, and that made John Kennedy president, and so uh Richard Nixon probably won that election.
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  Uh there's reason to believe that Al Gore actually won Florida in 2000.
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  Uh, and so this is uh this is not this is not new, but the massive scale that's available with computers, uh mailing voting, the absentees and the early voting periods and the counting uh ballots for literally weeks until uh until after the elections, they count until the right party wins, the right person wins.
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  Uh, and so it's uh it's not a new, it's not a new situation.
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  There's always been circumstances, but the technology that's available for this this to happen, um, actually can be dated.
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  Some of it can be dated to uh things in uh Venezuela, and I think that's may very well have to do with as much why Mr.
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  Maduro's in the city in New York as anything else.
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  Well, what you also had in Venezuela prior to Maduro, when you had Chavez there, you had what uh media police that I personally encountered.
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  And uh, which was fortunately, I looked very American.
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  I didn't look like I spoke Spanish, and thank God I was able to understand Spanish because I do speak fluent Spanish because my mother was Mexican.
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  And uh they what Chavez did to all these stations, he bombed one, which was like a heritage station, RT RCTV, but he would go in there and they would change the complete order of what would be running on the air, would only run music that Chavez liked.
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  They only talked about things that appealed to Chavez, and so it shut down a lot of the freedom of speech, and a lot of journalists left with their lives, barely.
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  Well, the origins of the Dominion voting system can in fact be traced to Hugo Chavez.
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  Wow.
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  Uh and that was uh developed there and then spread to a lot of places around the world, unfortunately, including the United States.
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  Uh and these voting machines do just um horrible things, and uh they do most of these horrible things in ways that are uh fairly complex that are often beyond the understanding of uh the judicial branch of government.
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  So explain that a little bit, if you would.
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  Well, I was uh I'm well, I was personally involved in a um in a case here in uh suburban Chicago.
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  Uh and it was a um Kirk County clerk case, and the clerk, the incumbent clerk was getting more votes than the governor of the state.
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  Uh, and of course, as people know uh generally speaking, a lot of people are familiar with the folks at the top of the ball, right?
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  Which the governors, senators, presidents, etc.
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  etc.
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  And the further down you go on the ballot, the uh less votes that are cast because people just don't they don't even know those offices.
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  So uh I was uh I got called about this, and little by little we were seeing that uh precinct by precinct, this uh kind of obscure office, um clerk of the clerk of the county of Will County that's kind of an administrative office, but manages oh, I don't know, tax collections and actually very, very big money things, was getting more votes than uh my friend who turned out to be my client in this case.
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  Wow.
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  We uh we ultimately brought in a couple of uh couple of different experts, and one of whom is uh fellow by the name of um uh Edward Solomon and another fellows um who did work in uh both Nevada and Arizona uh in the uh in the problems that they've had there, and then another fellow by the name of Walter Doherty, who's uh um chair of the Department of Statistics at Texas AM University, uh, and we had both of them independently review uh the election results.
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  There's 310 precincts in Will County, Illinois.
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  Well, Edward says there's a there's six, there's six possible situations when you have two candidates.
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  Uh there's the early vote, there's the uh election day vote, and then there's the mail and ballots.
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  Uh and times two, there's six possible combinations of that that ultimately get counted to determine the outcome of the election.
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  And as it turns out, uh my friend Edward originally discovered that um if you knew two of the six, you could predict what the other four were going to be.
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  Uh and uh and he said, you know, here's here's the formula, here's the algorithm that goes in precinct one.
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  And he said that was interesting.
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  He said, and then uh in precinct two, the same formula predicted the same outcome in precinct two, and then as it turned out, all 310 precincts were exactly the same, all applied the same way.
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  And for uh a number of reasons, I actually asked uh Professor Doherty to um do an analysis uh like um like Edward did and Professor without him without telling him about Edwards' results, uh, and he came up with the same uh the same situation.
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  He came up with the same results, and the curious thing about this is it doesn't matter if you have a recount.
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  You can you can recount until the cows come home.
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  The recount's gonna show the same results as it showed, and that's the traditional way people check to see whether or not uh there's been any hanky panky at the elections.
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  So, how are you able to uncover the hanky panky?
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  Well, you know what?
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  Here's the end result.
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  The end result was I got fined 35,000 for bringing this case to court.
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  Oh my god.
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  Uh, because the judge said it was a frivolous thing to do because I did not ask for a recount.
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  I went through it, I went through the math and showed them that the results that were published were actually impossible.
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  It's literally impossible for every precinct to fall within the same algorithmic program unless it's literally run by a computer, and then you wind up in a situation where they're going to wind up with the same ballots running the same balls through the same computers, and you're gonna get the same results.
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  And that's what I tried to explain to the explain to the judge there.
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  And the judge uh said, you know, if I wanted to uh if I was any good at math, I wouldn't have been gonna judge.
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  Um they ultimately threw out the case, and finally, for bringing the case to court.
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  Was the judge a friend of the one person that won?
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  You know, here's here's the problem, and yeah, we're having that we're having a lot of people.
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  That would be the question I would be asking.
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  You know, how close are how close was he to the to the winner of the outcome of the vote?
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  You know, the winner, I it's uh it's a little more complex than that, uh Blanke, because that's just kind of an example of the same situation where back in uh 2020, everybody said, Well, Trump lost 60 cases, right?
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  The judges would not hear the evidence.
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  They all refused to.
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  I was involved in a particular one in uh federal court in uh Pennsylvania.
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  Were they were there judges who were appointed, or they judges who actually had to run for the position?
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  Over here in in local elections where that have when local state judges there it was a mix.
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  There was some that were elected and some that were appointed, some were federal judges, some were state court judges, depending on the uh depending on the claim.
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  But uh, most of these claims had to do with the fact that the outcome was literally impossible to happen.
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  And uh the judges were but see, and that's one of the presentations that's part of the presentation I'm making at this summit.
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  We have a variety of people that are coming that are experts on the uh on the computers, on uh monitoring the computers, on controlling the uh on controlling the actual flow of the ballots, uh the uh uh make sure that there's a uh security all the way along the line.
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  And um, and my presentation actually is going to explain to folks how you gotta get it right before it ever gets to a judge, because judges unfortunately are either elected or appointed, many of whom are get their positions by the by the process that involved the elections that were elections were challenging.
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  Uh so the challenge to the election actually challenges the legitimacy of the judge, even if he's not even if he's not at issue, challenging that system challenges his actual authority, and that's why none of them want to hear this case.
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  None of them wants to be the one that says, Yeah, the guy that appointed me was illegally in office, in which case I don't I don't deserve to decide this, or uh or the election.
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  We'll get thrown out of the judge because they'll say it was an illegal appointment.
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  Well, it won't get that far, it won't get that far because the judges won't hear it.
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  Well, we're gonna talk about that a little bit more when we come back.
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  We have a great guest, and and his book on constitutional uh sound bites is one that all of you should have in your library.
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  It's important.
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  And this discussion, not only are we going to be talking about the the challenges we're going to be facing in the vote, we're gonna talk about the you know the bill of rights that is really getting confused in this process.
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  When you talk about the freedom to assemble, does that mean you can protest in a church?
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  Does that mean you have the right to go into a place that was really considered a sacred location that back in the day people fled to for sanctuary?
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  David Shistokis is a brilliant expert on this, and I can't tell you, David.
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  I'm so happy that you're with us, and you're gonna give us much more information when we come back.
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  I'm your host, Blanquita Cullum.
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  And you want to know about elections?
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  You want to know about defending the vote, protecting the vote?
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  Is it going to be people that are there volunteering, making sure that everything looks hunky-dory?
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  Is it afterwards the count when people are really being held to a standard to make sure that they uphold our American values when it comes to counting the vote?
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  Or is there a done deal?
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  That's really in the hands of judges after there's a question about whether there was any illegal illegality.
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  My guest, David Shistokis is an amazing guy who knows a lot about the vote.
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  I remember that when I first met him, I'd heard about his term as the Cook County Assistant States Attorney for Chicago.
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  And he's on the Chicago Board of Elections.
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  He's a hearing officer.
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  He's taken a lot of questionable cases about the legitimacy of the outcome of a vote, including President Trump to court.
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  But from what I understand, a lot of the decision whether something's going to go forward or not is in the hands of the judges.
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  Judges who may have been appointed by someone that won't like the outcome of a decision that could be rendered from their court.
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  And David Chistokus, let's get back to this.
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  I mean, how do people in communities across the United States?
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  How do they try to fight this before it begins?
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  Because once it's over, it's like months of people saying it was an illegal election.
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  We can't fight it.
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  It was a done deal.
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  Yeah, and then you run into the uh situation where the media is complicit as well.
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  Uh and they start to talk about uh people like me as oh, I don't know, election deniers.
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  Uh, you know, where uh where I physically have been at uh places in uh in the city of Pittsburgh that were condemned buildings that sent votes in and those votes were counted from condemned buildings, and so uh it's just it's very very difficult.
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  They I don't understand that that that I don't understand why media people do not support having clean and fair elections, why they want to why they apparently want a uh winner without a uh without questioning the legitimacy because of course it's been uh a tradition that afterwards that everybody I mean I can date back to uh uh Thomas Jefferson's original election uh as president and how that went to 35 votes in the House of Representatives before it ever uh ever actually elected between he and Aaron Burr.
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  There's a tradition of doing that, and to say that uh you're an election denier because you're contesting the legitimacy of a of a process is just it's they're literally un-American in that situation.
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  And let me interrupt you on that because the question I have there that goes to something that many people talk about when they're looking at a program, it's now bigger than it used to be on television.
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  You know, now we with the internet you can watch anyone you want to watch on a number of outlets.
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  The question is are people that are holding those positions catering to an audience of a particular persuasion politically, so it's in their best interest to not be able to represent the middle of the road than it is to sway left or right, depending upon their their audience that they will or will not lose.
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  That's um that's an interesting question, Blanquita.
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  But uh the fact is, as far as I'm concerned, it's not left or right.
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  It's uh goes back to the fact that the entire country depends for its legitimacy on the consent of the governed, right?
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  The way we determine the consent of the governed is in fact through elections, and no matter what your persuasion is, uh it seems to me that everybody would want elections that are fair, at least the vast except for coach, those that are gaining power by illegal elections, right?
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  Or those that are those that consider themselves, you know, we've had many hosts uh historically, and it's not a recent thing.
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  I mean, this has gone on for a long time, where they felt they were you know, Moses leading the people out of, you know, the to they were leading them to the promised land, they forgot that they were journalists doing a job.
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  And as a coach, I I try to explain to the young people I train, you know, it's what, why, when, where, how, and who it's not your goal there to persuade them as to inform them of the news and the facts.
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  And right now, um, I look at this and I wonder has uh some of the entities that what used to be television programming, have they become more like a an opinion vehicle as opposed to a news outlet.
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  That seems to be the case in in many, many situations, and dishonestly the case because they're trying to present themselves as uh fair and balanced or whatever, uh, as opposed to the uh uh say the commentators and the podcasters says, Yeah, I'm on this team, you know, at least you know what you're getting uh when you watch the young Turks, you know.
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  I I think uh Jenk is uh he's a brilliant guy, and but he's honest about what team he's on.
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  Absolutely.
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  Uh and and that's okay.
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  Uh and that's that's that's okay.
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  And so we used to have a hard line between news and opinion.
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  Uh we don't at least uh at least the mainstream, the big the big folks, they don't have that.
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  They uh they take a side nobody knew what you had you have guys, you had guys like Walter Cronkite, for example.
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  I was able to do one of an interview with him, one of his last interviews.
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  In fact, I still have it from before he retired, and he was a really great guy.
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  But his power was such that even though he presented the opinions of others, and you never knew whether he was left or right.
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  On the other hand, his power was so strong when he came out and he basically told Nixon the war is over in Vietnam.
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  Nixon knew the war was over in Vietnam.
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  Yeah, but most of us did not know what uh Cronkite believed, you know, and uh and we've politics so many media figures, other others other ways, and we're you know, you talk about nobody knew Cronkite's politics, nobody knew Johnny Carson's politics either.
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  Right.
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  Uh, you know, and uh they were these were these were actually leaders because you could trust what what they're presenting was literally uh legit because well, everybody was the target of Johnny Carson, and it was humor that was funny.
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  I mean, it was legitimately right on the target of what was going on, but he was very funny, and we've lost our sense of humor on that regard.
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  I think that's the problem with many of the late night programs, is they don't know how to be funny.
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  Uh, you've got guys like uh British guy by the name of Graham Norton, I think, who has a very funny show, and and they make fun of the news and particular individuals who are important, whether it's the royal family or the president of the United States, but they're funny, and and people have forgotten how to be able to laugh at ourselves, and that's a sad thing.
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  It's a very sad thing.
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  So that's the that's a combination of all that, and um, so but I think part of that, of course, is there are folks that in fact uh prosper because of the uh because of the divide that they try and create.
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  So going back to defending the vote because that's an important summit.
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  I mean, if you're summon on that, then what is what's the idea that they're going to try to present, you know, only the votes, you know, no votes online, uh, presenting an ID which people have had a problem with.
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  Um, you know, because right now people are saying that people are getting the names of folks that they're not who they are, and they're voting.
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  Well, one of the things that uh is gonna go on at the uh at the summit are um we've got some experts from all over the country that are very, very skilled in uh how the uh how the computer fraud works, uh, how the uh ballot manipulation works, how mailing ballots are uh misused and whatnot.
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  And the idea, of course, is to educate uh citizens, generally speaking, on these holes in the system, these vulnerabilities in the system, because of course we cannot rely upon the um government to uh to monitor these these situations, right?
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  There are really many, many opportunities for citizens to put their hole in the dike at one place or another, and they wind up with a uh a situation, and I want it my my role there as we talked about briefly is I'm going to explain to people how important it is for regular folks to be putting their holes and their fingers in the dike where they can.
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  Uh, and so um educating Americans at the moment, there's all kinds of corrections that need to be done.
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  We need to go back to you know, an election day.
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  We need to go back to voter idea.
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  But at the moment, all these other holes in the dike exist.
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  So we have to educate people.
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  So, one of the most important holes in the dike we got to fix.
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  I mean, you know, if you're starting out and you're trying to do stuff, and you you are very concerned about the outcome, and it may not be to uh your advantage that one particular party win or lose, but you still feel like a strong enough American that you want to make sure at least it's honest.
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  Right, right.
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  And that uh, and that's the most important thing.
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  And there's so many opportunities, both um partisan and nonpartisan, certainly.
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  Every candidate has a uh has an election integrity um element of their campaign these days that uh were the candidate would have uh folks that uh go to the precincts on the candidates' behalf and have poll watchers there.
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  There's uh opportunities, they're so odd.
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  And um, let's take Chicago, for example.
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  Uh, there's um 4,000 precincts in the city of Chicago, and yet uh there's each one of them is supposed to have an equal number of Republican and Democrat election judges.
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  They don't.
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  They really don't.
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  Uh, how do you find out?
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  How do you find that out ahead of time?
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  Because I think that if people, you know, they could probably call their Republican or Democratic Party uh that would be in Chicago.
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  Ask them for what opportunities there are.
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  Exactly.
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  Where's the opportunity for me to participate in the integrity of American elections?
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  Sometimes it's only a day.
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  Sometimes it might be monitoring, you know.
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  That's uh we have these this early voting that goes on for a month in advance, right?
• 30:50
  And there's voting going on at uh clerks' offices and other locations, and nobody's there watching.
• 30:58
  Nobody's there, and and they all and that's rife with opportunity to do election for.
• 31:04
  And we're that we have the uh we have the naive trust factor.
• 31:09
  We think they couldn't possibly do something wrong.
• 31:13
  And I've and you know, I've been part of things where we've tried to recruit uh folks and uh whatnot, and people often say, well, gee, I don't know enough, I don't know the election law, etc.
• 31:22
  etc.
• 31:22
  And I go, here's the situation.
• 31:25
  Very often, the uh police, the state police will park a vehicle on the side of the road, and there may not maybe a dummy sitting in it, but as long as that car is there, everybody slows down, right?
• 31:38
  Right.
• 31:39
  Slows down and obeys the law.
• 31:41
  Right.
• 31:42
  The election people that are the bad folks don't know who if somebody's there, they don't know whether you know whether you have to do it.
• 31:51
  Everything or you don't know anything, really.
• 31:53
  You're the warm body that's kind of sitting there and preventing fraud, waste and abuse at the at the election.
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  And uh now, are what about that's a start?
• 32:03
  There's a place, you know.
• 32:04
  Are there are they are they do they have cameras in the room?
• 32:08
  Do they have enough?
• 32:09
  You know, recording uh devices, or some of the times is that manipulated where it's conveniently shut off that happened in Pittsburgh.
• 32:20
  Uh there were keeping votes in uh boxes and boxes of ballots in the theoretically locked up cage that was theoretically monitored 24 7 by uh by uh close circuit television.
• 32:35
  Uh but does that did we did the um vote monitors all have access to the televisions?
• 32:42
  No.
• 32:43
  Um so even I mean, there's so many places, uh BQ.
• 32:48
  Uh, but uh the place to the very place to start is obviously with the uh with the uh for a regular citizen for a citizen that's not not trained and whatnot.
• 33:00
  We're uh we're very excited about uh the Department of Justice uh is now uh fixing it litigate uh with the state of Illinois with uh our attorney general who is refusing to uh provide uh the information that's required by the no national voter registration act to the federal government about the uh integrity of the voting roles.
• 33:24
  Uh here how how is how is that even legal?
• 33:29
  How can they refuse?
• 33:30
  It's not I mean that's crazy.
• 33:33
  It's not, but that's how brazen they are, uh particularly in a one party area.
• 33:38
  Uh and uh that's how brazen they are.
• 33:42
  But uh Harmie Dillon is uh on the case, and we're um we're very very optimistic that uh they're gonna do that they will have the police cars in the uh in terms of assistant um assistant U.S.
• 33:56
  attorneys uh that uh will be monitoring that element of this.
• 34:02
  Amazing.
• 34:03
  So it's a huge project.
• 34:05
  It is a huge project, and and you think you know, about the arrogance of it, and it takes me back to the old Woodward and Bernstein, and that was follow the money.
• 34:15
  Are people getting rich off of this corruption?
• 34:18
  Are people that covering these elections where there have been cases of fraud where you the votes have been thrown in the back of a van or put in somebody's trunk?
• 34:27
  Are they getting are they are they following the money?
• 34:31
  No, that's it.
• 34:31
  That's exactly what it is about because the government has so much money and it's so much unaccounted for money.
• 34:37
  What they're talking about billions that have been uh lost in Minnesota, uh that they know of, right?
• 34:43
  Um but uh there's uh somewhere in their range of about 500 million dollars in the city of Chicago that's uh supposedly been for uh illegal uh immigrants, uh assisting them with housing and other things.
• 34:57
  Nobody knows really how that got spent.
• 35:00
  Uh and so having the levers of power where there's this tremendous amount of money flowing through is um is just really really incredible.
• 35:09
  And uh there's all kinds of reasons for that, but the very place this if we don't get the vote right, nothing else works.
• 35:17
  And the and the question that I have too is are we taking care of the military vote?
• 35:22
  Because there was one election, I mean, like I can't remember how long ago, where there was a concern that the votes would even be counted for the military, yeah.
• 35:31
  That's um often uh often problematic in a number of ways, but there's special legislation for that, and and actually that may be the uh least uh least place where they mess with it.
• 35:44
  Oh, thank God, at least in my experience, uh I've seen them be very, very careful with uh with that because that uh for the elected officials, that's something that could easily blow up in their face because it's a small percentage, it doesn't really affect uh you know, of the overall vote, it's a small percentage and seldom uh affects the outcome.
• 36:07
  And so I'll tell you what we're we're gonna we're gonna wrap for a minute.
• 36:11
  We're gonna come back and I remember that Angelina Jolie had a tattoo on the back of her neck and it said, know your rights.
• 36:19
  And the fact of the matter, I wonder how many people really know their rights and what does it mean on the Bill of Rights?
• 36:27
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• 36:28
  I'm looking at the list here, and some people have taken a liberal, and I don't mean it in a political way, but in a view of what it means the freedom of assembly and where you can protest inside of a church.
• 36:41
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  Welcome to the National Security Hour on the America Out Loud Network.
• 39:01
  I'm proud to be your host.
• 39:03
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• 39:05
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  One more time.
• 39:16
  Welcome to the National Security Hour in the America Out Loud Network.
• 39:20
  I'm your host, Blanquita Cullum, and boy, you want to hear from this guest, David Chistokas.
• 39:26
  He's the author of a couple of books, one in Spanish, Constitutional Soundbites.
• 39:31
  And I know you've got a YouTube channel because we're going to be talking about the Bill of Rights on this last segment.
• 39:37
  And what people need to understand about what they mean, because we've had people in Minnesota protesting, they've been angry, they've gone into a church, they've tried to uh protest inside a mass.
• 39:51
  People have said, wait a minute, this is going too far.
• 39:53
  Well, what does it all mean?
• 39:55
  And tell us about your YouTube channel, David.
• 39:58
  Sure.
• 39:58
  Actually, the YouTube channel is the same.
• 40:00
  Same name as the book.
• 40:02
  It's the constitutional soundbites channel.
• 40:05
  We've got uh about 60 some uh videos there that go from that start about with uh the declaration of independence and then go through all the articles of the constitution and then through all the 10 amendments and then through all the 17 amendments that have gone after the uh come after the Bill of Rights, uh a lot of the things that go into uh understanding America.
• 40:28
  And the interesting I started that in the middle of May, and uh just last week it went over a million views, uh which we're very excited about.
• 40:39
  Uh and I would encourage folks, yeah.
• 40:42
  There's there's we're talking about um you're talking about the assembly and whatnot.
• 40:47
  There's a uh a video about amendment one, right?
• 40:51
  Of the First Amendment, right?
• 40:52
  First amendment has it.
• 40:54
  Well, let's talk about that.
• 40:55
  Let's let's talk about that because people were horrified, many people, not all, but many people were horrified that the protesters felt that they had the right to go in to this church.
• 41:07
  And you know, I I think of all the stories that people, even you know, during the Holocaust, people hid in churches, they used it as sanctuary.
• 41:15
  It's been traditional uh that you don't go and break into a church and protest, especially you think it's during a sermon, and people are there to pray, they're not there to sit there and rant politically.
• 41:28
  That's largely true, but I think some people miss the um bigger uh bigger thing by by kind of uh conflating it with religion.
• 41:37
  The truth is is that piece of property is private property.
• 41:41
  Oh, in fact, you are uh you're uh asked to leave, then you are become a trespasser.
• 41:48
  That's no good protesting in a church where you've either been not invited or uninvited, you are now a trespass, is no different than you coming in to my living room and trying to protest in my living room.
• 42:02
  That's um the uh pastor of the church or the uh whose ever or the elders or whomever's uh in charge of that property has the right to exclude anybody they want from the property for any reason whatsoever.
• 42:15
  And I think conflating that with a religion, um and I think people try and do that to make it more complex.
• 42:23
  It's not that complex, it is in fact private property.
• 42:27
  If the uh owner of the private property or the manager, whose ever has the authority over that private property doesn't want you there, you have no right to be there.
• 42:36
  Uh it would be no difference than say uh a um an opponent of uh or a pro-life proponent uh walked inside the waiting room of a planned parenthood uh facility, you know, they have no they have no right to to be there if the planned people don't want them there.
• 42:54
  Um then let me let me take it outside then.
• 42:58
  You have a lot of people, you'll have little old ladies, you'll have one or two people that have decided let either pray, they want to say a rosary, they want to, you know, and they're not even talking to the people that are going inside the abortion facility, but they are picked up and they're arrested, and they may be across the street on a public property.
• 43:17
  I mean, how does that how is that conflate?
• 43:21
  Well, certainly uh now there's interference with their first amendment rights because they are on public land in a public place in public property, and they're allowed to convey their message in a peaceable way, of course.
• 43:35
  The uh last part uh that many people miss relative to uh the right to assemble is it says peaceably assemble, right?
• 43:46
  Uh and I would suggest that the folks that have been uh protesting uh some of the activities of ICE have gone well beyond being peaceable.
• 43:54
  Uh the whole situation with uh whistles and uh uh doing uh things that literally interfere with law enforcement is now not gone as gone beyond provoke in a civil assembly or First Amendment situations, you know, there are there are avenues and outlets to do that.
• 44:12
  They could be on the public streets.
• 44:14
  I want to ask you in that regard, because this is not new.
• 44:18
  This is something that you know has happened over the years when you've had protesters come in for one reason or another and have been paid by entities that may be outside of the United States that may have uh a reason to want to cause chaos in the United States.
• 44:36
  We've seen that in front of the White House and these people, some of whom have been paid in the past as much as 100,000 a year and have their medical benefits covered.
• 44:47
  I mean, is that fall into the freedom of assembly when it's a promoted uh demonstration being paid by enemies of the country or enemies of a political party?
• 44:59
  As long as they follow the rules about being peaceable and in a public in a public space and do not interfere with the rights of others, you know, that that's one of the other things that uh frequently people always talk about my rights, right?
• 45:15
  But my rights are conditioned on my responsibilities and my responsibilities go to recognizing your rights as well.
• 45:24
  And so uh, you know, if there's somebody paying somebody to uh uh put carry a message that uh they want that's not necessarily favorable to the United States as long as they follow the rules about being peaceable, not interfering with somebody else's rights.
• 45:42
  It's you know okay, but let me ask you, okay.
• 45:45
  So let's say, and I'm this is just uh uh, you know, I'm I'm just giving you this as a concept.
• 45:51
  So let's say that an organizer is receiving funding from let's say Russia or the CCP to wreak havoc in a part of the country and not look like they have their fingers attached to it, but these are political enemies of the United States, and these are paid ad ad, I guess you say, activists that are willing to do that, they'll put a mask on.
• 46:16
  You can't tell whether it's a man, a woman, whatever it is, because they're doing it, and they kind of get off on it, and then you have other people that join in because again, they're not aware of who the organizer is.
• 46:30
  Uh is there a concern then that it's in a way, is it an invasion of our of our rights when someone who wants to destroy our country promotes something from someone who might be a citizen?
• 46:44
  It's uh certainly a danger.
• 46:47
  Uh and maybe very well, it's uh a price and a risk for the freedom that we have uh to uh to allow those kind of folks to uh do what they do as long as they follow the rest of the rules, you know.
• 47:01
  If as soon as they as soon as they start to literally interfere with law enforcement activity, or as soon as they actually physically trespass on some other someone's property, you know.
• 47:12
  I think a lot of that was um decided long ago going back to Vietnam, you know, there's a lot of uh you know, and they did determine that uh flag burning is uh is a is actually political expression, and so uh yeah, while that's dangerous, I'd I would like to think that uh our ideas if it becomes an actual contest of ideas.
• 47:40
  I'm pretty sure that our deas, our ideas will be victorious in the end.
• 47:44
  But it's like it's an ongoing battle.
• 47:47
  Do we have any movement towards uh any amendments to try to change or ratify the constitution that we really aren't aware of, or we're not talking about much.
• 48:00
  Um there's a you know, every there's there's the general amendments that people are familiar with, uh, balanced budget amendments and uh term limit amendments.
• 48:09
  There's uh the continuing work for uh by a group called the convention of states that wants to uh wants to get together and have a and use uh certain aspects of Article 5 of the Constitution that allows for citizens or state or state conventions to propose amendments as opposed to the system that we've always used, and that is to have Congress actually propose amendments.
• 48:34
  Uh there's a laundry list, although there's there's there's still a few amendments that are pending all the way back from uh 1791.
• 48:43
  Uh one of which one of which I just uh is called the credit congressional apportion amendment, uh that was uh ratified by 11 states and would if in fact were amended would grow the uh grow the United States House House of Representatives to about 4,000 members now.
• 49:01
  Oh my goodness.
• 49:03
  Because the uh original amendment proposal said uh you could uh you needed to have a member of Congress for every 50,000 people, uh every 50,000 folks in a district.
• 49:17
  And right now we have uh almost 800,000 folks in a district uh for the 435 members of Congress.
• 49:25
  That amendment was proposed in 1791, didn't have an expiration date on it, and it's still actually can be ratified.
• 49:32
  And I'm actually kind of thinking that it wouldn't be a bad idea.
• 49:36
  Uh you know, um everybody says uh that we'd uh well it would be unreal.
• 49:42
  Actually, these days we'd have the technology.
• 49:45
  We could have multiple capitals uh around uh around the country, multiple regional capitals, uh and those folks could uh could vote independently.
• 49:54
  But if you think about it, if we had congressional districts that were only 50,000 big.
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  The people running for Congress would not need money.
• 50:03
  They could literally go around and meet the 10, 15,000 people that they'd need to win the election.
• 50:11
  One of the things that we encourage on this program with the current situation, because all the members of Congress sometimes have multiple offices in their districts because they may have very big districts.
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  Sure.
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  Go to them.
• 50:25
  Get to know them.
• 50:26
  Get meet them.
• 50:28
  You know, uh, I look back at when I started my career, and uh, you know, meeting some of these guys when they were members of the city council, now the United States senators, and you get to meet them and and you know, I tell them who's your mayor.
• 50:43
  Do you know who the chief of police you know is?
• 50:46
  Do you know who your uh city council have you been to a city council meeting?
• 50:51
  Because that's a very powerful thing.
• 50:53
  Just even become involved with your city council and meet you.
• 50:56
  Oh my goodness.
• 50:56
  Uh the the stuff that goes on at the local government level because nobody's looking is just shocking.
• 51:04
  I once I once put a library in jail for uh stealing 250,000 in library uh fees.
• 51:10
  Uh wow.
• 51:15
  Guys, the guys that take kickbacks for fire truck sales, fire truck purchases.
• 51:19
  It's they nobody watches the local folks, and they get away with more stuff than anybody can imagine.
• 51:27
  Has the situation then with social media changed how we even used to be aware of what was going on?
• 51:34
  You know, people don't get newspapers now delivered to their home.
• 51:38
  And uh, you know, we don't have the five, six, and ten o'clock news like we did before.
• 51:43
  How connected are people to their local city councils and mayor's offices and state reps?
• 51:51
  It would seem to me online that would be a way to to do it even better.
• 51:55
  It actually uh it actually, at least in my experience, turns out to be that there are.
• 52:00
  Um I'm um four years ago, of course, I ran for attorney general here in Illinois.
• 52:05
  And now there's uh a fellow that's a 30-year friend of mine who's running for attorney general, Bob Fioretti, and I am working with Bob's campaign because he has a very, very good chance to win.
• 52:18
  And that's a whole separate thing, you know, in terms of the attorney general, probably is more powerful than the governor.
• 52:24
  Uh, the guy that's actually in charge of enforcing the law that decides what he what goes to court, what doesn't go to court, etc.
• 52:33
  etc.
• 52:33
  And if the government I think in Texas, Congressman Chip Collie, and the Chip Colleague, Chip Roy, rather, Chip Roy, is going to be running for the attorney general position for the state of the city.
• 52:45
  I believe he is because I believe uh Mr.
• 52:47
  Paxton is uh running for the United States Senate.
• 52:50
  And has a very good good chance, apparently he's doing better than the other people who are running against him.
• 52:56
  Well, that just shows you how important Mr.
• 52:58
  Paxton was because the Texas legislature tried to kick him out because he was actually following the law.
• 53:05
  Uh, and that's how important the attorney general is.
• 53:08
  They never tried to kick the governor out, they tried to do kick out uh Mr.
• 53:12
  Paxton, they tried to impeach him.
• 53:14
  And that you should wear that as a badge of honor, which I believe he is doing.
• 53:18
  Well, you know, I used to give tours at the state capitol in Texas when I was UT.
• 53:23
  And it's so funny because I think that you know, they have apartments for the governor and for the lieutenant governor inside the Capitol where they live.
• 53:32
  And the funny thing, it happened because the speaker of the House would stay out all night and or work very late, and they'd find him asleep on the floor of the of the house, and they said, forget it, we're gonna build an apartment for these guys.
• 53:46
  We can't have this happen again.
• 53:49
  And uh, you know, it was uh I was glad I had that opportunity to learn the behind the scenes of how the state worked.
• 53:57
  Absolutely.
• 53:58
  Absolutely.
• 53:59
  Well, so we're at I am working with Bob and we're doing a lot of things, but what one of the interesting things about that is is relative to social media that you were asking about, there are a hundred and fifty some odd Facebook groups spread around the state of Illinois that are all interested in various issues and whatnot, of which I'm a member of all of them.
• 54:20
  And sometimes when I send messages out about Bob, I get to talk to 66,000 people on the in that are involved in these various groups.
• 54:29
  Do you think you're gonna run?
• 54:30
  And by the way, before I forget, speaker of the house, I failed to mention that was the famous Sam Rayburn, by the way.
• 54:37
  Ah, okay.
• 54:38
  All right, but anyway, you think you're gonna run again?
• 54:41
  You think you will personally run again?
• 54:42
  You're just kind of I don't have any reason to.
• 54:45
  I have every reason to believe that Bob's gonna win.
• 54:48
  We have um Bob Fioretti for anybody that's listening.
• 54:52
  Uh uh Bob said Bob's an interesting story.
• 54:54
  He was once a uh through he was a two-term uh alderman in the city of Chicago in the city council, and they literally drew his drew his when they drew districts, they drew him out of a job because he would not go along with the fraud and the bribery in the council of the city of Chicago.
• 55:10
  Wow.
• 55:11
  Um this is it.
• 55:13
  And so uh so he's got a great backstory and relative to the politics of Illinois, Bob is in a situation because of that kind of history to bring enough votes from Chicago and the city to uh make up um to give him an opportunity to actually win statewide office.
• 55:31
  Um most Republicans win outside of uh city of Chicago, and uh if you can bring about 30, 35 percent of uh that vote there, then you have the opportunity to win statewide office.
• 55:44
  And Bob's history makes him uniquely uh positioned to do that, and so I'm really excited.
• 55:51
  And if Bob wins, I'm gonna if Bob wins, I'll be working in the attorney general's office anyway.
• 55:56
  So it's just as good.
• 55:58
  Uh, you know, and and you have enough experience there, so your seat's still warm from the last time.
• 56:03
  Yeah, yeah.
• 56:05
  All right, so that's been exciting.
• 56:06
  We want people to go to the Facebook page and watch constitutional sound bites because you do have a full array of Google.
• 56:13
  There's a full array there, uh, Blackita, but I will tell encourage folks to go to the YouTube channel, watch the videos.
• 56:20
  If you went through, there's one playlist that's called from the preamble through the uh through the uh Article 7.
• 56:27
  That if you watch those that group of videos, you will know more about the Constitution.
• 56:32
  It only takes you a couple hours.
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  You'll know more than 99% of the people in America.
• 56:37
  Uh have the constitutional sound bites in Spanish, which is very good.
• 56:43
  And the book, can we get it on Amazon?
• 56:45
  Where do we get your constitutional?
• 56:47
  Books are in our books are available on Amazon.
• 56:50
  That's constitutional sound bites as well.
• 56:52
  And then, of course, as uh I don't know that my accent would be good, but it's copsulus informative as constitutionalis.
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  Uh, see puede comprar el libro, andale.
• 57:05
  David Histogis, thank you so much for joining us.
• 57:09
  And I looking forward to let me start again from here, 321.
• 57:12
  David Tistokus, Mr.
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  Constitutional Soundbites.
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  We'll check you out.
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  Your book on Amazon.
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  We'll go to the YouTube channel, and I'm looking forward to having you join us again here on the National Security Hour on the America Out Loud Network.
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  I'm Blanquita Cull.