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Ep. 792: World Record Burbot, Dock Dogs, and Butt Out | MeatEater Radio Live! · The MeatEater Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Smell us Now, lady, welcome to Meet Eater Trivia podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to Meet Eater Radio Live. It's eleven am Mountain Time.
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  Speaker 2: That's neon o'clock for our friends in Birmingham, Alabama, where
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  Speaker 2: the Meat Eater Live Tour will visit in a few weeks.
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  Speaker 2: On Thursday, November thirteenth, and we're live from Meet Eater
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  Speaker 2: HQ and Bozeman. I'm your host, Spencer, joined today by
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  Speaker 2: Steve and Cal. Now today's show, we'll interview Sean Conrad
• 0:46
  Speaker 2: about catching world record fish. Then Steve and Cal will
• 0:50
  Speaker 2: compete in Meat Eater's Price Is Right, And finally we'll
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  Speaker 2: interview Steve Powell, the co owner of North American Diving Dogs.
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  Speaker 1: Gonna whoop your ass Steve.
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  Speaker 2: There we go, Ella, you got you got something to
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  Speaker 2: talk about here first before we do the rest of
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  Speaker 2: the show.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. If people are wondering why I'm why I'm dicking
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  Speaker 3: with my phone, it's our our friend and colleague Dave
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  Speaker 3: Smith at you know, Dave Smith Decoy's sent this thing
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  Speaker 3: this morning. There's a hunter who's a good friend of
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  Speaker 3: Dave's named Devin Dobek, who on October thirty sent a
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  Speaker 3: satellite text message in mount Hood National Forests sent it
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  Speaker 3: on October thirty at seven pm, sent a satellite text
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  Speaker 3: message saying he'd killed a buck. It was going to
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  Speaker 3: take a while to pack it out. No one's heard
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  Speaker 3: from him since, so hundreds of volunteer searchers, search and
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  Speaker 3: rescue Sheriff's department can't find them. They're going to call
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  Speaker 3: off the search. Dave sent me a GoFundMe link because
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  Speaker 3: the family really would want some closure here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been two weeks.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and so they're trying to raise money for to
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  Speaker 3: keep people in the field, could have her dogs like whatever.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 2: What's the go fundme called?
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  Speaker 3: And Dave's been helping out on it. Man, I think
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  Speaker 3: it's called Help Find Devon Dobek mount Hood National Forest,
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  Speaker 3: Fish Creek. That's gotta be what it's called, right, cal,
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  Speaker 3: I mean if that's the big title, Yeah, help Find
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  Speaker 3: Devon Dobek d e v O N d O b
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  Speaker 3: e K. I'm trying to right now put a thing
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  Speaker 3: on Instagram about it.
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  Speaker 1: Can we put a link in the chat? Phil? Does
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  Speaker 1: that work?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll find a link, a share link and put
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  Speaker 5: it in there.
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  Speaker 3: So Dave's been volunt Dave's been volunteering in the search.
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  Speaker 3: Oh just.
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  Speaker 2: What a feeling sad story. If you go to the GoFundMe,
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  Speaker 2: you can try to help bring Devon home.
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  Speaker 3: So that's what I'm doing right now.
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  Speaker 2: All right, we are deep in the bullpen of media
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  Speaker 2: radio host today. It was supposed to be Randall in
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  Speaker 2: cal seat, and then yesterday afternoon and Randall said, boy,
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  Speaker 2: I'd really like to go to your hunting Corey. Could
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  Speaker 2: you co host tomorrow? Corey said yeah, I'll do that.
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  Speaker 2: And then last night at like nine pm, Corey texted
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  Speaker 2: and he said, uh, hey, I would really like to
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  Speaker 2: go Elk hunting in the morning. Cal. Can you host? Cal?
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  Speaker 2: Would you tell?
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  Speaker 5: Him?
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  Speaker 3: Said?
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  Speaker 1: No problem?
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  Speaker 2: And no problem. So we're on our our third relief
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  Speaker 2: host here today, Ryan Callahan taking over for Randall, taking
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  Speaker 2: over for Corey. And I've heard some good news from
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  Speaker 2: Corey this morning. He killed a bull.
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  Speaker 3: H thank god. He's getting a little powdery looking yesterday
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  Speaker 3: he's looking a little.
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  Speaker 1: But I think that's yeah, I don't know, I think
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  Speaker 1: that's awesome. You got to got to chip in where
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  Speaker 1: he can get in the woods.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Steve, Steve has really created a culture around here
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  Speaker 2: skipping work to go hunting. Yeah, so.
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  Speaker 3: You are like a no hunting rule until until Steve's
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  Speaker 3: tagged out.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's it's the adult culture of get your stuff
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  Speaker 1: done court, don't taking a hassle for somebody else.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, you were here, didn't you get a powery
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  Speaker 3: feeling off Cordy. Corey been helping a lot of other
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  Speaker 3: people feel their fill their freezer.
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  Speaker 1: True help another.
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  Speaker 3: He didn't say like, bye, golly, I've been helping other people.
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  Speaker 5: Fil I think Corey's Corey's earned the right to be
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  Speaker 5: a little snippy. He's he's such a he helps out
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  Speaker 5: everyone he does.
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  Speaker 3: That's coming from the king of Snip over.
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  Speaker 5: There too, proud of that title.
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  Speaker 2: So as we as we sit here, Corey right now
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  Speaker 2: is on a mountain. He was texting me with satellite
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  Speaker 2: texts this morning. Maybe he'll join us later on the
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  Speaker 2: show if you can get some good cell signal and
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  Speaker 2: we'll get that first look at a bully.
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  Speaker 3: Dude just having such a technical struggle. Go ahead, keep
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  Speaker 3: doing the show. I'm almost with.
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  Speaker 2: You, okay, uh, I just got home from a haunt, Steve.
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  Speaker 2: You just got home from a haunt. Cal I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: you're either coming or going from a haunt right now.
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  Speaker 2: Can I tell you boys about the time I killed
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  Speaker 2: the biggest buck of my life? Yeah, just the big
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  Speaker 2: biggest buck of my life.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, all those big old white tails you got.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm flattered to think you killed that. I killed
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  Speaker 2: bigger deer than that before. That's that's my biggest I just.
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  Speaker 3: Feel like you guys in South Dakota shot all those
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  Speaker 3: giant white tales all the time.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, not not as big as this one.
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  Speaker 3: I'm about getting wrapped up over here. But keep going.
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  Speaker 2: The hunt story itself not that terribly interesting. I think
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  Speaker 2: the interesting part is how I got access to this place.
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  Speaker 2: This was just a door knock.
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  Speaker 1: I went to tell that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I got permission here last year. This year, I
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  Speaker 2: was trying to get this permission again, struggled to get
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  Speaker 2: a hold of the land owner. From what I gathered,
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  Speaker 2: they were snowbirds, So my landline phone number I had
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  Speaker 2: was not reaching them. The letter I wrote them was
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  Speaker 2: not reaching them. I just need to confirm that I
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  Speaker 2: could hunt there exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because you didn't want to do that. Well, you
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  Speaker 3: gave me permission one time, a long time ago. Before
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  Speaker 3: I'll hunt the rest of my life.
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  Speaker 2: That that doesn't fly. So I was desperate to get
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  Speaker 2: in touch with these folks. I did something I've never
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  Speaker 2: done before. I found out, uh, their adult child who
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  Speaker 2: lived in another state.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: And I figured out where they worked, and I took
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  Speaker 2: a guess as to what their work email could be.
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  Speaker 2: And I reached out to that person and I opened
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  Speaker 2: the email.
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  Speaker 3: But retraining order.
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  Speaker 1: I said, So I slept in the parking lot. So
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  Speaker 1: I told them home.
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  Speaker 3: I put myself in a large box.
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  Speaker 2: That's right, their oldest child. I opened the email by saying, uh,
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  Speaker 2: let me put this out there first. I think what
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing is very inappropriate by reaching out to you
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  Speaker 2: here at your work email. Uh, this is you know
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  Speaker 2: who I am. I got permission for your parents last year.
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to get permission again. It all worked out.
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  Speaker 2: I got in touch with them just hours later because
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  Speaker 2: of that. And and then I went and I killed
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  Speaker 2: my biggest dear ever that that Phil has a few
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  Speaker 2: pictures of this Mulely was was coming off of a
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  Speaker 2: winter week.
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  Speaker 3: Wouldn't have gotten that.
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  Speaker 2: What what do you wish I got?
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  Speaker 3: I wish I knew he was just still out there, you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, what kind of interesting because that's a young face
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  Speaker 1: to me, but great forks.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I he had an enormous body, the biggest
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  Speaker 2: body of of any deer that I've ever dealt with.
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  Speaker 2: So I I don't think that that was a.
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  Speaker 3: Aren't too jealous before you? I'm jealous for you? What's
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  Speaker 3: it call when you just don't when you just see
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  Speaker 3: something in the makeshift set?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 3: Jealousy?
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  Speaker 2: Jealousy? Okay? Yeah, yeah, so so very thrillout. I'm squirrel
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  Speaker 2: something that that happened there was I got the worst
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  Speaker 2: case of buck fever I've had quite a while. Yeah, Like,
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  Speaker 2: when do you guys not get buck fever anymore?
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  Speaker 1: Certain circumstances. I like what I'll tell you, Like, I
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  Speaker 1: can feel it creeping in and there's a mental decision
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  Speaker 1: to cave to it or block it out.
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  Speaker 2: I agree with you this this buck in particular. Thankfully,
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  Speaker 2: the moments of me realizing just how big he was
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  Speaker 2: were very brief between me me learning that and me
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  Speaker 2: shooting him. So the buck fever set in and I
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  Speaker 2: autumn and it didn't build up. The worst buck fever
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  Speaker 2: I'd ever had in my life was my previously biggest deer.
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  Speaker 2: I killed with my bow and I had to watch
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  Speaker 2: that deer walk in for a half hour before I
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  Speaker 2: could shoot. I was an absolute wreck by the time
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  Speaker 2: he got there, just totally shaking, on the verge of
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  Speaker 2: falling out of my tree. I didn't know that a
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  Speaker 2: person can feel that way for that long until that happened.
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  Speaker 2: But this this deer was a reminder of like what
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  Speaker 2: the shakes can really feel like. Yeah, yeah, you said
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  Speaker 2: sometimes it happens, cal.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, for I think all the time. It happens if
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  Speaker 1: you allow it, allow it to happen.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of fun. Though when it happened, it is
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  Speaker 2: like healthy.
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  Speaker 1: Well it's a drug, right, it's adrenaline. And I yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I had this amazing, very brutal hunt with just like
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  Speaker 1: glimpses of deer in a hard spot, and then found
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  Speaker 1: this pocket a deer and they're like four bucks, thank god,
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  Speaker 1: were like somewhere in like the eight to a dozen
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  Speaker 1: deer total. It was like all the deer in on
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  Speaker 1: this mountain, We're in this one little crevice and lo
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  Speaker 1: and behold, there's this three point mule deer buck in
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  Speaker 1: there that is like one of the heaviest deer I've
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  Speaker 1: ever seen. To this day, just like all bronzed up
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  Speaker 1: mountain buck big around as my wrists and.
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  Speaker 3: The zandlers, yeah, and.
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  Speaker 1: The deer start filtering through this little pocket. There's all
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  Speaker 1: these openings, and everybody's like coming out and stopping in
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  Speaker 1: this opening and coming out and stopping in this opening,
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  Speaker 1: and coming out and stopping in this opening. And he
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  Speaker 1: comes right up to the edge of the opening and
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, totally set up, rock solid, very close, and
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not going to sugarcoat it. I shot
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  Speaker 1: the opening. I was like here he comes back, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god. Yeah, and you know, mentally,
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  Speaker 1: like you know, like they don't know exactly where it's
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  Speaker 1: coming from. They heard a big ou noise, a big
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  Speaker 1: smack in front of him. I had time to shoot
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  Speaker 1: this buck again, and I was so I was beating
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  Speaker 1: myself up so hard immediately. Yeah, as he was going
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  Speaker 1: over the crest of the ridge, which was only like
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  Speaker 1: a two hundred yard shot at that point, like I
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  Speaker 1: was on him. I was solid. It was a moving shot,
• 10:20
  Speaker 1: but it was like that going away thing, and I
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  Speaker 1: just knew I could kill him, and I said, you
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  Speaker 1: don't deserve this, And I didn't pull the trigger. I
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  Speaker 1: was so, so so pissed at myself.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Steve buck Fever, when's the last time you felt it?
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  Speaker 5: Oh?
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  Speaker 3: Can I tell you something. I'm gonna tell you something
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  Speaker 3: funny first, because this pertains what I'm gonna say. My
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  Speaker 3: wife likes to hike up the m hill Okay, and
• 10:45
  Speaker 3: she took our little boy up there last week. I
• 10:47
  Speaker 3: think it was last week. Anyways, he was talking about
• 10:49
  Speaker 3: how he always feels so good when he hikes up
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  Speaker 3: the hill. Oh, and she said, your body is releasing
• 10:55
  Speaker 3: endorphins from the exercise. And he said, and you want
• 10:58
  Speaker 3: to know what endorphins are? And he said, well, if
• 11:01
  Speaker 3: they're good, why would it release.
• 11:02
  Speaker 2: Them at you there?
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  Speaker 3: So I have like a pet theory about this that
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  Speaker 3: I feel that there is a finite amount of whatever
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  Speaker 3: it is that gives you buck beebrol.
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  Speaker 2: You've exhausted it, no, No, but.
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  Speaker 3: I've used a lot of it up and I think
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  Speaker 3: that people are born with varying degrees of it. Some
• 11:24
  Speaker 3: people are born with an enormous well right that they
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  Speaker 3: just can't use. I have just personally I felt over
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  Speaker 3: the years that like whatever gland it is that like
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  Speaker 3: makes a thing, it is getting old, yeah, or it's
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  Speaker 3: running out.
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  Speaker 1: And there's that finite and it just doesn't do it.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't like squirt as much out as it did
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  Speaker 3: when I was young. And it still gives a little squirt, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: but I feel like in a decade at this going rate, man,
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  Speaker 3: it'll be be squirted out.
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  Speaker 2: I don't like that. You told us that.
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  Speaker 3: That's just a theory. I don't know. I just feel
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  Speaker 3: like it's like like the surge, Yeah, it doesn't work
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  Speaker 3: as good as it once did, you know.
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: Buddy mine and like he's in the super adventurous, very
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: dangerous whitewater kayaking community doing first descents and crazy stuff,
• 12:18
  Speaker 1: and there's you know, it's not a huge community, but
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  Speaker 1: there's there's plenty of folks and there's a lot of
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: folks that get in the water and they practice their
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  Speaker 1: role just to kind of like loosen up and get
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  Speaker 1: in the mental space. And he's like, won't catch me
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  Speaker 1: doing that. That's the stupidest thing in the world. Why,
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  Speaker 1: Because he's he firmly believes that you have a finite
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  Speaker 1: amount of roles, and he's like, why would you waste
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  Speaker 1: one when you don't need it?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Steve has been guiding some of his kids to
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  Speaker 2: deer lately, do they do they get buck fever real bad?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, my daughter has a peculiar kind of of buck
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  Speaker 3: fever and hanging out with kids. I feel like it's like,
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  Speaker 3: I feel like it's more calm. I notice very small
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  Speaker 3: sample set. I think it's more common in girls than boys.
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  Speaker 3: She likes to explore verbally, explore whatever. She likes to
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  Speaker 3: spend a lot of time on what could go wrong
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  Speaker 3: and likes to cover off her Part of her process
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  Speaker 3: is covering off on what could go wrong and how
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  Speaker 3: to prevent it. This is not a thing that designed
• 13:26
  Speaker 3: my boys minds. Oh, that is very far outside of
• 13:32
  Speaker 3: their heads, like kicking around what could go wrong? How
• 13:36
  Speaker 3: can we prevent it? They are not, that's not on
• 13:40
  Speaker 3: their minds.
• 13:41
  Speaker 2: Are they already thinking about the opposite, like them holding
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  Speaker 2: the antlers?
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  Speaker 3: They don't. I don't know that they think that much.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know they think that much. My daughters. What
• 13:49
  Speaker 3: if we get what if what if it falls over
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  Speaker 3: but we can't find it, What if we hit it
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  Speaker 3: in the leg? What if we emit? Like she wants
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  Speaker 3: to cover it all off. And it's a form of
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  Speaker 3: and it's a little bit it's it's a little buck fevery. Yeah,
• 14:02
  Speaker 3: you know, it's a little buck fevery.
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  Speaker 2: It's fun though. Yeah, even even if it's like the
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  Speaker 2: stakes feel lower and you're shooting a dough or something,
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  Speaker 2: just like the the moments of knowing it's gonna happen
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  Speaker 2: and thinking like everything is going to change after I
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: pulled the trigger. That's that's very exciting to experience.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Archie Elk, I did a great job of just
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: like blocking off the endorphin situation because I would just
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: get in this mindset of like Broadside Elk meet in
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  Speaker 1: the freezer, then I can go mule deer hunt, and
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: I'm like, it's gonna be a lot of work, it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna suck. You're stupid for doing this, and just beat
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: down any feelings of like excitement and adrenaline and well,
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  Speaker 1: and then I would let that come in afterwards and
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: be like, wow, that was really neat. But now, you
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: stupid idiot, you have to pack this thing out.
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  Speaker 2: I get advanced buck fever to the point where I
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: will sleep worse the night before if I know like
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: it's going to be a good haunt tomorrow. I just
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: I love that that little bit of stress that like
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: when the sun comes up, it's going to be good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I have. Yeah, there's a lot of anxiety in
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  Speaker 1: hunting for me as far as like, oh god, how
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: many trucks are going to be at the trailhead?
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  Speaker 3: And did.
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: I told you guys before? Like where I lived in Idaho,
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  Speaker 1: I lived like on the main artery for a huge drainage,
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  Speaker 1: and unless you were part of the maybe hundred people
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  Speaker 1: that lived upstream of me, you had to drive past
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: my place. And no matter how tired, wet, cold, whatever,
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: I got in, what terrible condition I had put myself
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: in the night before. If I heard a vehicle go
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: up that road at four am, there was like there
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  Speaker 1: was no sleep to where you're going.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, ye yeah, his deer, his elk.
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  Speaker 3: I've noticed that.
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  Speaker 6: Man.
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  Speaker 3: I know you probably want to move on, But I've
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: developed this problem where it no matter who I see,
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: I could be doing the most esoteric, weirdest thing in
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: the weirdest thing in the world. If I see in
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: our car, I have in my head that they're doing
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: what I'm doing. Meaning if we're like mushroom hunting and
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: I see a car pulled over, some of the bitches
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: mushroom hunting, you'll be like, is he though, or like
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: anything if we're if we're setting beaver traps, I see
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: a truck some of the bitches beaver trap, I'm like, oh, no,
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: he's just like dude walking the dog. Yeah, but my
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: head immediately puts it that we have the same motivation.
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  Speaker 2: Sure makes you want it real bad.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then and all and realistically, in all the
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: years I've hunted morels outside of hunting burns, because burns
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: everybody knows about it. And all the years i've hunted morells,
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: I have one time been hunting moreles and actually encountered
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: a morell hunter one time in my entire life.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: Do you verbalize that fear to your kids when you
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: guys are out looking for mushrooms, like, oh, these evil
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: people who just pulled over?
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: No?
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no I do. I just because I'm trying to
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: train him to be paranoid about morel's. You know, last weekend,
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: that's good.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: My buddy kid is chomping at the bit to go
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: on a big hike for mule deer, and I was like, great,
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: I'm your guy. Let's go clear it with his dad.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, hey, there's we're driving down to this
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: spot that he wants to go to. I'm like, hey,
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: there's a seventy percent chance that there's going to be
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: another truck at this trailhead. If that's the case, do
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: you want to go check out this other spot or
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: this other spot? Like you got to be thinking about that,
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: and and he's like, yeah, I think there's going to
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: be somebody there too, but let's go check it out.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: So we drive in there, and sure enough, there's one
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: truck at this trailhead and there's quite a bit of
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: country there. But I was like, I don't really want
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: to go. I'm like, but it's up to you. I
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: wasn't even carrying a gun. And he's like, no, I
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: I think I think we should still go. I was like, okay,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: I was a little uncomfortable with it, but I'm like,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: you know, this is your hunt. I'm just in support.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: And we go hiking in there, and uh, not too
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: far in there, come around the corner and I glass
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: up this guy and we had just talked about how
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: we were going to hike because I'm like, now you
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: got to account for this other other truck. We don't
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: know where they are. The Wind's going like this, but
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: this is really hard. This isn't as hard. Chances are
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: this person went up to not hard way, so maybe
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: we should go up the hard way. Stuff like that.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: And I glass over and this dude's dressing out a
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: deer and I'm like, I'm like, well, perfect, And then
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: I start looking and I'm like, oh, that's a big
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: horn sheet.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: Oh that was the guy.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so I was like, and that's what I
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: was like. Oh my gosh, I felt so bad about
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: being next to another truck. I feel so much better now, congratulations.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I wasn't doing what you were now looking for sheep.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: That day, someone in the chat is suggesting that we
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: take beta blockers to get rid of it.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: I've heard of that.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: I don't want him.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know. I'm not always looking
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: for I'm just looking for reasons and not take drugs.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, different points in our lives. Yeah, give me more
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: of it.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: That's how filter turns in those killer performances. Blockers. Yeah,
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: it's just well, the whole theater thing. It's all about
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: your uppers and down they are. They are.
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: I've never part partaken, partook, but they are a thing.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Maybe I'm betraying a confidence. But our first live tour
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Chester took some because he wasn't loving how.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: He'd get up there get whole verses.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like like two shows into the tour. Uh, he
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: just got some beta blockers and that was what he
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: wrote those the rest of the tour.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Stage God, rock and roll.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: I mean, if they were like let's say you're if
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: they were so instant, you know what it'd be like,
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: you'd tie off with some surgical tune me and have
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: like a needle and ship and then you look and
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: here comes down the trail. If you can just like
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: mainline and just like instant bait bla. But what are
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: you supposed to do every day? Pop on at like
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: three pm?
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: That's just down opener. Yeah you know, I mean.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's just part of my process.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: Got ivy bag hang.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, your ozone machine or your iv that's right.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right. We're gonna move on with the
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: show to our first interview. Joining us on the line
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: now is Sean Conrad. Him and his twin brother Adam
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: have caught fourteen world record fish. Sean, Welcome to the show.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: Is that possible?
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: We're gonna find out how we going, Sean, you currently
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: hold the world record for rainbow trout and burbot. No,
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: I want to hear both those fishing stories. But first
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: let's start with the burbot world record. You said on
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: March twenty seventh, twenty ten. Take us back to that day.
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: Well, it actually started two months beforehand, where actually a
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: guy caught and released that same fish and didn't realize
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: it was a world record. So once Adam and I
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: saw that he had weighed just under twenty five pounds sake,
• 21:20
  Speaker 6: I think he thought the world record was twenty eight.
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: So obviously, my brother and I every weekend I lived
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: in Alberta, I would travel to Saskatchewan every weekend I
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: could until we caught that fish.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: You guys were targeting at like you're targeting a specific fish.
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: Yes, because it had like certain marks on it wasn't
• 21:39
  Speaker 6: a certain area. We had probably caught over a hundred
• 21:42
  Speaker 6: berbot in about a month and a half and then
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: slept in my truck on the twenty sixth and woke
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: up at eight in the morning and went back fishing
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: and caught him at ten o'clock in the morning.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Wow, what secrets can you tell us about catching that fish.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: As far as bait you were using, it is you
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: were targeting stuff like that.
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: We usually target them in like drop offs and uh
• 22:06
  Speaker 6: and holes, but we used bait on bottom Cisco's Harrying smelts,
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: whatever you have at the time, and you literally just
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: bait and wait for those fish. And we tried, you know,
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: we would try like four or five different areas, and
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: we actually caught that fish in an area that we
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: never really started burbot fishing then, and now that's one
• 22:28
  Speaker 6: of our favorite spots.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: Do you set are you setting tip ups or rod?
• 22:33
  Speaker 6: And real, well, this was actually open water, in flowing
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: water in a river in March.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: See okay, yeah, Sean, Do you get any kind of
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: buck fever when you're reeling in one of these giant
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: fish that may or may not be the next world record.
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: I remember hooking that fish and I had thrown my
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: rod out and I was eating a salad when you
• 22:55
  Speaker 6: catch a fish, and my rod just kept bouncing like
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: in the current, and I'm like, why is it bouncing?
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: Why is it not stopping? And that fish must have
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: ate it on the drop or when it's just got there.
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: And then I knew when I was really and I
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: saw it. It it got me pretty nervous. I knew
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: I had the world record on and got in the
• 23:14
  Speaker 6: net and I just had a big sigh of relief.
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: And actually the guy that had caught that fish two
• 23:18
  Speaker 6: months ago was on shore and he asked me how
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: it wasn't, like, well, we got we got the fish
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: we were after. And he's like, no, way, that is
• 23:27
  Speaker 6: amazing a fishing or fishing in a boat. This was
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: this picture was taken on a bank, but we were
• 23:34
  Speaker 6: in a boat.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, okay, we're looking at a picture of that
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: world record right now.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: I noticed that all of your burbot records are from March.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: What is it about that month that makes burbot fishing
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: so good?
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: March is when they start to spawn. They're at their
• 23:50
  Speaker 6: fattest with the eggs. If you can get those fish
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: before they spawn out, they're the heaviest they'll ever be,
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: and they start congregating in March. In certain areas, you'll
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: get ninety percent of the fish in like a five
• 24:04
  Speaker 6: percent area of the lake, and then you could just
• 24:07
  Speaker 6: target and catch quite a bit more, and you just
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: keep weed throwing them until you get your big one.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: Do you guys eat burbot?
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: Yes, delicious. The five to ten pounders are our favorite.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: Got it?
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: You just get You don't get as much meat as
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: you would off a walleye, but you get the backstraps,
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: tail meat. If they're big enough, you can take the
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: belly meat.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I do that. Belly meat's pretty fantastic. You
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: fry that stuff.
• 24:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah, cuts cut it in strips, kind of like calamari.
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: It's it's firm and you get cook in any way
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: you like. It's delicious.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Do you get any bycatch when you're targeting these giant burbot?
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: Yes, walleye, white fish and rainbows.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: Can I ask you bird? I got a burbot question
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: for you. Might love to just ask a question.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Go for it here.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: My birthday is on February thirteenth. Yes, okay, So we
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: go to For a few years on my birthday we
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: would go set tip ups through the ice for burbot.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: One year on my birthday we go out. I can't
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: wit we catch twenty four burbot. A big group of people.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: We catch twenty four burbot. Yeah. Next year February thirteen zero.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: The next year February thirteen zero, fishing the same stuff.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: What is your take on that. This is a big resermee.
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: So usually burbot will spawn in different areas of the lake,
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: and every year is a bit different. And actually some
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: years it's actually tough for us to target them in
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: March because they're all they all moved.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: So they're all somewhere and not where you are.
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you got to find them. And that's Adam and I.
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: We guide and we have to be on fish and
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: we have to consistently move. We noticed that if we
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: fish a spot one day, the next day it's not good,
• 25:53
  Speaker 6: so we have to consistently move. So I feel like
• 25:55
  Speaker 6: in your situation.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: We were fishing for last year's fish man.
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's the same thing. And you're you're always
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: fishing the same numbers, where Adam and I were always learning,
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: always moving.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Yep, advice, I feel like that's what happened. You also
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: have the world record rainbow trout that you caught on
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: September fifth, two thousand and nine. Tell us about that catch.
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: The uh wrong picture I lived in. That's a big
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: brown for a little bit, but uh.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: Come on, get the right fish up there. Man, he's
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: got his head thinking about.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: You're just trying to make friends with this guy.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: We wrongfish.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: We're gushing over other big fish pictures that Sean has.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Phil is going to go back to picture two and
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: that will be the record. There. Go ahead, Sean, tell
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: us about that fish.
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: I I just quit work Friday. I took my daughter
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: believe she was two or three, and drove to my parents'
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: house in Saskatoon. Got her to sleep around eight thirty,
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: and then I took off around nine. We fish at
• 26:59
  Speaker 6: dark for these rainbows. Met my brother and we fished.
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: We caught, you know, we were trolling. We caught a big,
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: like eight pound walleye. We had caught like an eight
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: pound rainbow before that. And then noon or midnight came
• 27:12
  Speaker 6: minnek in. Then we caught. I hooked this big fish,
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: and I know it was big because the big ones
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: they just they start rolling behind the boat and then
• 27:20
  Speaker 6: you just can't move them, so you just hold the
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: hold the line tight and uh yeah, like netted it.
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: We're just like, well, we better weigh this thing because
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: we are filling our biggest net up with this fish.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Wow, the world record burbot you knew was in those waters?
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Did you know the next world record rainbow was swimming
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: there as well.
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: No, we were guiding hard in two thousand and nine
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: or eight before we caught this fish. We stopped guiding.
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: We had caught that year, I think three other or
• 27:48
  Speaker 6: four other forty pound rainbow was that rail too. That
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: was the year of the giants two thousand and nine,
• 27:55
  Speaker 6: and then we just went out after guiding with we
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: were done, and yeah, we knew there was giants that year,
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: so we just fished hard, and yeah, it broke my
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: brother's world record.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Now ten of these world records have been line class
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: world records. Explain what that means to folks who aren't
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: familiar with the International Game Fish Association record keeping.
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: So IGFA has different world records. The first world record
• 28:20
  Speaker 6: Adam and I broke. We had caught a thirty three
• 28:23
  Speaker 6: pound rainbow on twelve pound I believe it was twelve
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: pound test. And we knew that there were different world records.
• 28:30
  Speaker 6: So if you caught a fish that was you know,
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: let's let's say thirty pounds on six pound tests, you
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: could look up to see if that is the heaviest
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: fish of that species on a certain line, so and
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: then you can register. But I believe you have to
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: be a member to do that, just to see what
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: they have for weights in line and so there's different
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: types of world records. There's line classes and then there's
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: all tackles. So our first one was a thirty three
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: pound line class world record.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, do you have any all tackle records?
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's the rainbow and the bourbon.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: Oh, those are all tach he has both of those.
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: Those are like the biggest in the world ever recorded.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: Man, are there any other dudes?
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: Where do you sit in terms of in fresh water
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: at least? Like are there a lot of dudes that
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: have a handful? Like do you know what I mean?
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: Is it like the kind of thing when there's certain
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: guys that are filling that slot again and again.
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: Adam and I our goal was to get every line
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: class world record rainbow, So we would specifically spool our lines.
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: I think it was called Pea line. We would buy
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: Pea line and we would buy like twelve pound and
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: we would just pool that rod and real twelve pound
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: Pea line Because then when you do catch a line
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: class world record, you've got to send your line in
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: for break testing, and if it breaks higher, then you're
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: bumped into a different category.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: I feel like maximum is that way.
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so we have to buy SPC and we have
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: to buy a specific waste scale, and then we had
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: to get the fish weight properly if it was a
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: world record, take it in and get certified with a
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: biologists and stuff. So there's a there's a bit to it.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: God, you guys make me feel like I've wasted my life.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Dude, you and you put.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: The professional right there.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: Man. Yeah, you and your brother have broken each other's records.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: When that happens, are you happy for each other or
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: is it really competitive for you too?
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: No?
• 30:22
  Speaker 6: We love to bump questions off each other and techniques
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: and we're always learning. If we go to a lake
• 30:30
  Speaker 6: and we get skunked, why did we get skunked? What?
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: What did we do wrong? How should we change our techniques?
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: What should we do different? What area is a like?
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: Time of day? It's just like deer hunting. When is
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: that buck coming out?
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: Is it coming out in the morning or evening? And
• 30:44
  Speaker 6: where is it? You got to you gotta learn and techniques.
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: So fishing is what Adam and I do. We bump
• 30:49
  Speaker 6: stuff off each other and then we learn. So we're
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: always we're not competitive when it comes to that.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: But you do call your bro and be like, hey,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: you know that we were really proud of its right,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: stuff like that.
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: I think when I caught the burbot, I was Adam
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: was a little bit jealous because you know, I had
• 31:11
  Speaker 6: caught the rainbow and now I caught the burbot, and
• 31:13
  Speaker 6: then I caught a great big brown trout after that,
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: and he was like, why are you catching all the
• 31:17
  Speaker 6: big fish. I'm like, well, I don't know, I don't mind.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: Are you married?
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I'm not.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: Okay, no, my brother is what was going to be
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: your responsive? He said, yes, oh, just if his wife?
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: Are you talking trophy? Class of wife is no?
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, like if his wife if she if she
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: if she sees a big burbot, does she know enough
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: to know she's looking at a big burbot? Meaning if
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: we come home and show you know, we'll be We'll
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: come home and show my wife stuff. And she's like,
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: if you say so, it looks a lot like the
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: other ones, a lot like the other ones. You guys, brow.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: Sean, all of your world record rainbows and burbot have
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: come from Lake Diefenbaker in Saskatchewan. What is it about
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: at water that allows it to produce such big fish?
• 32:04
  Speaker 6: For one, it's a damn the reservoir loaded with ciscos.
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: It's just they have so many ciscos in the lake,
• 32:10
  Speaker 6: so it's got good forage we catch. We caught a
• 32:14
  Speaker 6: forty inch burbot guiding last year and the up in
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: the lake. And when I say the lake, we're actually
• 32:19
  Speaker 6: targeting a lot of these world records down below the
• 32:22
  Speaker 6: dam where these ciscos come through the dam and they
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: get chopped up. So these fish are just chowing down
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: and they're getting huge.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: Is that Is that true? I've read that before, But
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: is that true that fish coming through those turbans are
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: actually chopped up and not just shove through it.
• 32:40
  Speaker 6: Yes, it depends what turbine and where it is. But
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: the ones we're seeing are getting chopped up, you know,
• 32:48
  Speaker 6: and then they just sink down and then.
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: Just coming out like chum. Yeah, you know.
• 32:53
  Speaker 6: And then just these fish just gets so big they
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: get to world record size.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: Give some advice, I to listeners who want to target
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: really really big rainbows and burbots, like you do your.
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: Research, honestly, it's honest the same as deer hunting. You
• 33:09
  Speaker 6: have to know what lake produces big fish. Adam and
• 33:13
  Speaker 6: I we would see an article of a big fish
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: being caught. It was Montana. I think a thirty thirty
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: three pound rainbow was caught there Lake Cootin. Yeah, Cooton
• 33:23
  Speaker 6: River sold it down there, and Adam and I went
• 33:25
  Speaker 6: and we caught a thirty three inch rainbow like our
• 33:28
  Speaker 6: first time. It was like almost near twenty pounds. You know,
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: so certain systems produce big fish. So do your research
• 33:37
  Speaker 6: and then figure out your techniques and learn, Yeah.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: Do you have a white whale? Is there a world
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: record that you're pursuing right now?
• 33:46
  Speaker 6: I was targeting the actual another world record bourbo. I
• 33:51
  Speaker 6: was trying to break it and I had caught I
• 33:53
  Speaker 6: was doing on video and I caught a twenty two
• 33:55
  Speaker 6: pound or two years ago. It was three pounds under
• 33:58
  Speaker 6: my world record bourbot. And this was that she and
• 34:00
  Speaker 6: Alberta like that was producing some giant burbot. So as
• 34:05
  Speaker 6: for targeting world record, I think it's the brown trout
• 34:09
  Speaker 6: because we're right now, Adam and I are actually targeting
• 34:13
  Speaker 6: a world record brown trout, and it's they're tough, but
• 34:16
  Speaker 6: we see some brown trout that are rising that are
• 34:19
  Speaker 6: in that thirty plus to forty pound range.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: When you break that record, you come back on this
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: show and tell us that story.
• 34:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah brown trout.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Now, Sean, you want to know my claim to fame
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: up in that country.
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: Yeah, tell me.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: I got offered a bartending job there in Riverhurst one year.
• 34:39
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, that's where we guide out of around there.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: They kind of offer those jobs.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Everyone that it comes through the door gets a bartending jobs.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: A sketch one, but yeah.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: Kel cal braggs about getting uh brags about getting offered
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: bartending jobs.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was a hit with the locals. We used
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: to go up there and and and hunt ducks every year,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: got some friends that live in town and had a
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: place to crash. It was everything you needed when you
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: had little bird dogs to run with.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: So yeah, one last question. All right, let's just say
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: a fella is just looking out, you know, just to
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: catch fla sized berb it. Yeah through the ice? Do
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: you like? Are you laying like? Let me tell you
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: what we do and you tell me where I'm wrong.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: We run tip ups with braid down to a floral leader,
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: a small treble in cut bait, laying on the bottom,
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: where do you not like? What do you not like?
• 35:36
  Speaker 6: That's perfect and then fish into the night. And then
• 35:39
  Speaker 6: your second line you would be hitting bottom, pounding bottom
• 35:43
  Speaker 6: with some kind of a glow glow tube with bait. Okay, yeah,
• 35:47
  Speaker 6: and lay it on bottom. Now find your depth to
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: put your tip up and I would say fifteen to
• 35:54
  Speaker 6: twenty feet and maybe set up your shack in about
• 35:57
  Speaker 6: twenty five feet in February. And then and also if
• 36:00
  Speaker 6: you're not catching, then go deeper, go up to go
• 36:03
  Speaker 6: to twenty thirty five feet to forty feet those bourb
• 36:06
  Speaker 6: it will be all over the place, so interesting and
• 36:08
  Speaker 6: then awful lake. Yeah, go ahead.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Sorry, you like the tubes, huh.
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah, tube jigs work, yeah, absolutely, we love tubes. But
• 36:19
  Speaker 6: also you know, we'll use heavier, heavier jigs with heavier heads,
• 36:25
  Speaker 6: maybe that glow. And then you put your bait on
• 36:28
  Speaker 6: there and you really want to hit bottom hard. You
• 36:30
  Speaker 6: want that thump, you know, and just consistently do that,
• 36:33
  Speaker 6: and it's kind of like just like bringing them in
• 36:36
  Speaker 6: making noise down there on the bottom. It just seems
• 36:38
  Speaker 6: to work.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Cool.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Sean last thaying, tell folks about the guiding service that
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: you and your brother own.
• 36:44
  Speaker 6: We're fishing geeks here. We guide Lake Diefenbaker. We've been
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: guiding full time since twenty eighteen, part time since two
• 36:52
  Speaker 6: thousand and eight. So and this is our job. Just
• 36:55
  Speaker 6: take take people out fishing and hopefully catch them the
• 36:57
  Speaker 6: fish of their dreams.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: You guys have quite the hasn't made to convince folks
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: to fish?
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, man, thanks for coming on, appreciate the information.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Thanks, good luck with your world record brown trout.
• 37:08
  Speaker 6: We'll try.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: That's amazing.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: To be clear, he has caught the biggest rainbow and
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: the biggest burbot in the world. Those are two of
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: his fourteen records. The other twelve are the line class
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: records we talked about.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: To be frank with you, I respect that burbot one
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: but more Oh hell yeah.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: Well that thing was so baddy cool.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: That looks like something you drug out of a cave
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: in the ocean. Man.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: All right, let's take a break for some list of feedback. Phil,
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: what's the chat have to say?
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, let's see here. Well, back we were talking about
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: Randall taking time off and Corn as well. Nick is
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: asking do you meet either employees need to take PTO
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: to go hunt or is that just a perk of
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: the job.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: I have no idea.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, Bill, what do you do when you when
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: you go hunt, you.
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: Taket or of course I'm a company man. I let
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: my manager know, and she in turn lets her manager know,
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: and uh, you know the eye across the ts.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so just took a little PTO.
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, but that was to go to Portland just
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: to hang out. I didn't do any hunting.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: Now, I just noticed you had a little PTO thing
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: on your email.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: There no cue paying attention.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: We do some stuff like a normal office. We block
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: off our calendars, we write emails, tell folks we're going
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: to be out of the office hunting. So yeah, it happens.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh can you take that leopard shark one?
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: That was gonna be my next one? Here he goes
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: from will question for the crew. I just got back
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: from diving in California. Saw a bunch of leopard sharks.
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: I read that they are good eating. Have any of
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: you harvested shark with a spear? Is it good eating?
• 38:32
  Speaker 6: Oh?
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: Spear?
• 38:33
  Speaker 6: No?
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: Roden real yes, and man, you gotta trim them sharks anything.
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: You gotta trim the fat off. You gotta trim the
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: you know, the the purple tell I'm trying to say,
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: bloodline type, bloodline stuff. There's a layer that sits between
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: the meat and the skin. If you trim it up,
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: it's good. If you don't trim it up, you are
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: in for a bad meal. He's spilled a bunch wrong.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: But I've had a lot of shark fresh shark that
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: I think is fantastic eating. But yeah, oh, you.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: Gotta trim it. You gotta trim it as bad as
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: you gotta trim a flathead catfish. It is good whatever,
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, this is as essential.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: What else Scott film?
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: This is from Leland? Howdy? Is there any idea of
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: doing a meat eater history book on the French coups
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: de bois or the voyageurs. I don't know if you've
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: looked into that for that French stuff for your history,
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: Steve at all. Is that peak your interest?
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: I think that we will maybe, I think that we
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: will get to that with our American history series. Yes, great,
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: even though it's Canadian history. So that's what makes it
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: a little bit tricky that it makes a little bit tricky.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: In every one of the series, we talk about what's
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: going on north of the border, and we throw to
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: those guys in both The Mountainmen and the Hide Hunters,
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: but never dove in. But when I was a little
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: boy growing up in Michigan, you would study those guys.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: They would teach you that stuff in Michigan history.
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, this is Oh, this is another one from Will.
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: I have found that when I am on long long
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: hikes or hunts, I almost always get a song stuck
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: in my head, usually rambal On by Zeppelin. How do
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: you guys pass the time mentally on long hikes? What's
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: running through the noodle?
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: We talked about this briefly. Esjay Randall said that he
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: just he really hates himself, so when he spends time alone,
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: you know, he just sits there thinking about the things
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: he doesn't like about Randall. That's what I'm answering for Randall. There,
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: I think about what I do like about Randow.
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: That's how I passed.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: That's what I'll think about this week.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: I think songs are great. I definitely do some singing
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: to myself and by proxy whoever's around me. I packed
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: out a full mule deer boned out mule deer up
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: a very very steep slope and just found like I
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: was never ever going to get the top of the
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: ridge if I stopped, because stopping can kind of become
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: an addiction where you're like, well, I'm gonna get up
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: to here and stop. I'm gonna get up to here
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: and stop. And so I made up like a very
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: all theatrical song, one man play phil of getting the
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: buck to the top of the mountain. Oh, it was
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: basically like, how do you get a buck to the
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: top of a ma ton? And then you can kind
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: of any other version.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: I'm going to use that.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: This is from or Mogor.
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: I also I saw your message earlier about sending us
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: your address for those cookbooks you won last week. Don't worry,
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: mog Or, we will get you your cookbooks. I'll make
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: sure that somebody saw that email. But your question is
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: for cal how much will your new CEO role at
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: BHA affect your appearances on the shows? I hope you
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: still drop in from time to time.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's the plan. I obviously this is
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: like a huge challenge and it's new, and I have
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: a giant learning curve so time is going to be
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: a factor, but no one, no intent to drop off
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: the face of the world, the meat Eater world over here.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: And I'll still be weekly host on the podcast too, So.
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: I would like to I'll touch on next. I would
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: like to be able to be Cal's uh you know.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: I would like to be able to be a great
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: place for Cal to come tell folks what what he's
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: doing in his new role and what his priorities aren't
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: his new role, so invitation stands. So if he doesn't
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: come out, it's not my fault.
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: Phil's clear sure this from Friday Arrows. Phil, When will
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: we get an animated version of your Dungeons and Dragons episode?
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: That's a great question. That would be a dream. I
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: don't know if if Steve, you're your your American history
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: guy will also work on the D and D episode
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: that I did. But I love someone who can capture
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: just the look of bewilderment on Cal's face at every turn,
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: or maybe Brody decapitating the cat with a sword. That
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: would be fun.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: So Steve has to decide, so that'd be great.
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: See, I don't think you're aware that I that I
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: I guest hosted trivia and instead of playing a game
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: of trivia, I played a game of Dungeons and Dragons
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: with the crew.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: I've heard about that, but I don't know what that means.
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: You can watch it at some point or door, don't
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: you know. It's up to you.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: All right. Our next segment pretty it crushed on YouTube
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: like our best trivia of the year.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: I think it's congratulations.
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: It was fun.
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: Our next segment is brought to you by Case Knives,
• 43:29
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• 43:32
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• 43:35
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• 43:38
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• 43:39
  Speaker 5: It comes from Bozeman, Montana Media Radio's most exciting ten minutes.
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: It's The Prices Run. Steve Ranilla, come.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: On down, first time on the show.
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: Ryan Callahan, come on down. You're the next two contestants
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: on Media Radios The Prices Run. Okay, now here's your host,
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: Spencer new.
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: Oh that's great.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: Did you watch that documentary about that show?
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: No?
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: I didn't even know there was one.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Uh yes, I did.
• 44:11
  Speaker 6: Well.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: The guys that gamed it, yes, but.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: By gaming just like knew the answer.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: No, they gained it by like like a sort of
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: memorization experts who got into who got into these like
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: catalogs of MSRP pricing. Yeah, and we're able to commit
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: thousands and thousands and thousands of prices to.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because there's like some trends in there too. And yeah,
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: that that was But yeah, I think that the beef
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: was like, you guys are ruining the show by being
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: too good.
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, by memorizing it all point being they get in there,
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: that they when all the people are waiting in line
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: to come in. This kind of surprised me. They have
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: these sort of profilers. Yeah, they go outside and just
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: hang around the line and they're just watching how people
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: interact conversations. They kind of get some interactions going and
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: they're just in their head going like he'd be good. Sure,
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: he wouldn't be good, he'd be good, he wouldn't be good.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: And they knew how to get selected. Yeah, they would.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: They would dress in a certain way to be noticed
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: but not noticed in the wrong way, and they would
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: like they knew who they were looking for to engage with.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: But then I think they had to, like they knew
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: those people, they had to those people had to start
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: bringing guests who they hoped would get picked, and then
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: the like real brains, the operation was in the audience
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: somewhere giving clues by and you know.
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: Because you know, the audience can yell.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: Yes the Dollar died.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: Well he would look and there's this guy going Dollar
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: Toy died.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're talking about picking those people out of the
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: document famous.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: He became famous in the audience, and so people would
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: be like, let's see what yes, Bill has to say?
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: What you hope you're playing on a day when Bill
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: is there?
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what's the documentary called?
• 46:04
  Speaker 5: Well, I told you I haven't seen it.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: There was some real sad part of that documentary though,
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: where Bob Barker just looked older.
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: It's called Earth Perfect Bid The Contestant who Knew Too Much.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think we all know it because it was
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: featured on Delta Delta.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: So that's you were talking about picking people out of
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: the line. A very proud vain moment for me was
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: my wife and I were in New York City. We
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: went to a taping of Stephen Colbert in twenty eighteen,
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: and when you're coming in, they just like have ushers
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: that seat you somewhere and if you're you know, the
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: attractive couple, they'll put you up front. And so they
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: pulled us from the back and put us at the front. Yeah,
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: so we could be seen in the audience and like.
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: People would feel like they're watching the right show exactly.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're just like setting the mood for the show.
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: If that attractive man likes the show, then I must
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: be on the good right thing.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exact kids club.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: All right, cal Steve, grab your whiteboards. This game is
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: real simple. Phil is going to tell you about a
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: product from the meat Eater universe and you need to
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: guess its price. The player with the closest answer without
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: going over will be declared the winner. If both players
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: go over, then you'll both be told to try again,
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: and the chat should play along as well, because whoever
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: has the closest answer to the correct answer, we'll get
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: a shout out from Phil. All right, there are three
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: products up for bid today, Phil get us started.
• 47:29
  Speaker 5: Well, our first item up for bid today is the
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: Hunter's Specialties butt Out two.
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: I know that tool.
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: Now, we know you're probably saying to yourself, but self,
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: the betout one was perfect.
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: What could they possibly improve on?
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: Well, the betout too has an extra two inches of
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: handle that creates the patented butt stop to give you
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: better grip and control of the tool. It's never been
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: easier to remove the anal canal of a white tail, antelope, bear,
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: or hog. And Hunter Specialty says it's made out of
• 47:52
  Speaker 5: sturdy plastic that can withstand repeated use, so you can
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: hand this heirloom down to the next generation of deer gutters.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: That's what Steve is planning to deal.
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: We'll show you a thing or two or you don't
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: need that thing now.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: On Amazon it has four point seven stars from over
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: four thousand reviews. Phil is showing his pictures of the
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: butt Out two right there, and here's the butt Out one.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: You can see where they change the design to give
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: you that special butt stop with a little extra plask.
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: Can you show me the butt stop again?
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: Okay, this is butt Out one that you're looking at,
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: and we'll get a butt Out two in a second.
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: Sure, that's your big improvement for butt Out two.
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: And we're trying to figure out what that butt Out
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: two is going to run.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: What does that cost? And if you go over, you're
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: just out of the game. Almost both of you go over.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: So Stephen cow will come up their price. Now, I
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: can't even fathom what they'll do for butt out three.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: What could they possibly come up with next?
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: A real sharp knife?
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: I like how on the description it's like, here's these
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: animals they could work with, and it's like or anything.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: With it does say any big game sized animal. Yeah,
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: it's is pretty vague. Now this is the price from
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: Hunter Specialties.
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: Oh man, you got you can't do that because all
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: kinds of dudes are putting down what they think it is.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're paying along as well. Yeah, it's just what
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: we trust that you're honest, and you.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: Are he wrote mine. Okay, Cal, go ahead.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: And reveal your answers. We have Cal saying twenty two
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: to ninety nine and Steve says twelve dollars. The correct
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: answer is lower than both of those, so we're both
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: going to try again come up with a new price.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: It is less than twelve dollars. Steve's guest was twelve.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: We know it's less than that. Both of you come
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: up with the new answer and try.
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: That's stupid. Why who's close?
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: We're playing the prices, right? You got to argue with
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: the prices.
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: Just because someone does something dumb doesn't need you two.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: All right, we have Steve, who now says eleven dollars
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: and Cal says six ninety nine. The correct answer is
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: eleven dollars and ninety nine cents. Steve was only a
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: penny off his first guest.
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: But these are.
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: Prices, right rules, Steve, So you were you were one.
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: I don't Yeah, I wouldn't pay any attention what they do.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: I will tell you though, Steve, Steve deserves little accolades here.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: That's the first I think that is the first price
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: is right answer. I've been wrong on.
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: Cal is dominant at this game, Steve. Just so you
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: know you're going up against you know, the Michael Jordan
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: of Meat Eaters Price.
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: I had a conversation Cal was or not cal Clay
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: was shaming me about this about what Clay was shaming
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: me about. Not knowing the eggs had gone up in price.
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't if I go to buy eggs,
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: I'm just gonna get the eggs. Jemmy, I don't go like,
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: am I gonna buy eggs or not? Like when I
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: wake up and I say to my little body, we're
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: going for breakfast eggs, I'm just gonna buy eggs. So
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: I don't go and see, it's just not gonna matter.
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: I'm still gonna buy the.
• 50:51
  Speaker 5: Weather topic on the during the last this is before that.
• 50:54
  Speaker 5: It was okay, this is before.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: That, so eleven ninety nine. That is from Hunter Special website.
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: So I needed this butt remover. You can probably be like,
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: I'm just gonna get the butt remove.
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: It is on sale at Shields right now for seven
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: ninety nine. So if you're in the market for a
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: butt out, to check out Shields.
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and we have a handful of people, guess right
• 51:14
  Speaker 5: on the money. We've run into that problem before, Steve.
• 51:19
  Speaker 5: I've called people out and they've been very defensive about
• 51:21
  Speaker 5: how they are.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, guilty, Nate, JH and gone fishing Duncan.
• 51:27
  Speaker 5: Maybe maybe a few more too, but those are the
• 51:29
  Speaker 5: ones I saw.
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: Suspicious. All right, Phil, What have we got next? Oh?
• 51:32
  Speaker 5: Great question. Our next item up forbid is your very
• 51:37
  Speaker 5: own colony of taxidermy Beetles.
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 51:40
  Speaker 5: This dermistic Beatles super kit from Skull Taxidermy comes with
• 51:43
  Speaker 5: over two thousand bugs that are shipping right to your
• 51:45
  Speaker 5: front door. They guarantee a mix of adults, larvae, and
• 51:48
  Speaker 5: pupe pupa that will have you cleaning skulls in just
• 51:51
  Speaker 5: three to four weeks. The super kit also includes plenty
• 51:54
  Speaker 5: of betting for laying eggs, as well as two pages
• 51:56
  Speaker 5: of instructions on how to care for your beatles.
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: You feel not to be clear, you're paying for the
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: Super Beetle Kit plus shipping from Deer Lodge, Montana. These
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: are going to come round.
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: Whose idea was to include this? These are great idea? Hey,
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: I saw a question about skunk spraying. Can you hang
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: on to that one for me?
• 52:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I've got a bookmarked, so what that was.
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: A great That was a great That was a great call.
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: I have no idea.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: I have no no clue.
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: You're getting two thousand bugs and they guarantee a mix
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: of adults, larva and PUPA wow in that two thousand
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: bug mix.
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: This that's a great question.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: In three to four weeks, you're going to be cleaning
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: your first skull.
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: I have no idea.
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: And this is a flat shipping rate. It's just convenient
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: that is coming from Deer Lodge, but their website says
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: it's cost the same fear shipping to Georgia.
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: I don't like all these guys writing numbers down on
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: that thing.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: You've already locked in your answer, I Suppish says, keep
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: to themselves. Cal, are you ready reveal your answers? Cal
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: says it's forty one dollars. Steve says it's one hundred
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: and twenty dollars. That's a rag dancer, Yeah it is.
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: It's two hundred and forty six dollars and fifty cents.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: So Steve was the closest and he was only half
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: away there.
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: See, how do you how do you put a price
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: on that?
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, these folks did what they did.
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: But picture like what he's got to have going on
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: to be able to have that. You know what I'm saying,
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: that's a lot. That's something I could never guess because
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: like the amount of headache, and that might just be
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: a side hustle, like they're probably you know, they're cleaning,
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: that's right, and they got access and I don't know,
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: it's probably name your price because there's probably not much competition.
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: That's two hundred and thirty dollars for the Beatles and
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: sixteen dollars and fifty cents for shipping, and that's.
• 53:39
  Speaker 5: A great Friday Friday Arrows Guest two thirty in the.
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: Chat well done, Friday Arrows. Steve has now officially won
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: the game. But we'll see if you can't get the
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: clean sweep. We've got such a product, so we'll see
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: if you can get the clean sweep and make Cal
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: run around the building naked as is tradition. Phil, what's
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: the third item.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: Lucky employees?
• 53:58
  Speaker 5: Our final item up for bid today is a sign
• 54:00
  Speaker 5: photo of Stephen Vanella. This eight by ten photo of
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: a handsome young Stephen is for sale on eBay.
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: Right, you remember that, I do? But how does he
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: have that?
• 54:10
  Speaker 5: He's standing on a stump staring.
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: Into the magazine Men's Journal. It's probably Cal's bow with
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: his hand. That's had no idea, obviously, Steve, actually my signature.
• 54:23
  Speaker 5: Well, let's see here. The seller guarantees it's the real
• 54:26
  Speaker 5: deal because the signature has been verified by Beckett Authentication Services.
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: Just smudge does that much?
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: Does that look like your signature?
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: Have that picture?
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: It's just someone on you gotta have this. We put
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: Steven a real pickle here, making him guess what his
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: autographed is hot.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: They found they brought out like kids, medium black T
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: shirts for the shoot.
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: I was like.
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: Without his belly button getting exposed it was brutal and.
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: St on a stump. That's that's a nice little touch.
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: When was this photo taken?
• 55:04
  Speaker 5: We got a lot of jokers in the chat guessing
• 55:05
  Speaker 5: stuff like five cents one dollar.
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: That's what I wrote down.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: If somebody put it on e Bay.
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: That's right.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: This is for sale on eBay right now, so if
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: you like the price. When we revealed weekend.
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: Cal's dog passed away.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, this wasn't the big fish was Uh,
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: your oldest boy was just a baby. I mean he was.
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: Under at the same time.
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: How many years ago?
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: Was a long time ago, But I was I was
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: entertaining and Steve's kid, uh by letting him shoot arrows
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: up into the sky, I'd hold onto the bow. Oh,
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: and he'd crank that back and let it go.
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: That very safe activity. Would I pick this item? I
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: had no idea. That was cow. No, I have not
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: bought it. I bet by this episod's over. That thing's
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: off eBay. Someone's purchasing calcul I'll send you one. Do
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: you have a price, Go ahead and reveal your answers.
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: Cal says fifty dollars. Steve says one dollar. The correct
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: answer is eighty five dollars. Eighty five dollars that could
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: be yours. It's free shipping or best offer, it says.
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: So if you're in the market first time, Steve, maybe
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: try to lowball him before you pay for We had a.
• 56:27
  Speaker 5: Couple of people get it right on the money, but
• 56:29
  Speaker 5: Garrett got in pretty quickly and he guessed eighty four
• 56:32
  Speaker 5: ninety nine. I think he's being true, truthful. But then
• 56:35
  Speaker 5: we had Big Dough pot pipe in and says eighty
• 56:37
  Speaker 5: five dollars.
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: I just bought it. Well done, Big Dough. I'm gonna
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: verify that. I'm gonna go look on at you ban
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: and see if that's still for sale.
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if you bought it, I'll send him another one.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: Now, this seller has all kinds of autographed photos up
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: for sale. I found some comparisons. If you're interested, Steve,
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: so the first one here, If you've got sixty five
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: dollars to spend, you can buy a signed picture of
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: playble bunny Sierra Price.
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: What was it? Blurret out, Well.
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: Because it's kind of scandalous. It's a playboy bunny whose
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: photo you're buying.
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: Nobody's asking whether or not the signature is real.
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: I notice, uh, huh. So that's that's if you got
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: sixty five dollars. If you got eighty five dollars, you
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: can buy a signed picture of Caine Hodter, who of
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: course played Jason Vorhees from the Friday the Thirteenth movie.
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: So that's the same price as Steve's signature. Now, if
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: you've got real deep pockets, you're looking to spend one
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: hundred and fifteen dollars, you can buy an autograph photo
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: of rock and roll Hall of Famer Don McLean, who
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: wrote the world's greatest song, American Pie. So twenty dollars
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: more than your autograph, Steve, Don McLean.
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what is the objective here?
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: Just one, which is fun. Let's all this is where
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: you ran your celebrity is between Playboy Bunny and Don Matillia.
• 57:51
  Speaker 5: That's a pretty good place.
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: To Actually, someone's like, how famous I'd take exactly? How
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: let's go to eBay heard of I'm not quite the
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: guy American Pye, but but I do trump some playboy buns.
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: That's right, Steve wins. Anyway, he got his two points.
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: Well done, Steve. All right, let's do our final interview
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: of the day. Joining us on the line. Last is
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: Steve Powell, the co owner of North American Diving Dogs. Steve,
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: welcome to the show.
• 58:25
  Speaker 4: Are we doing, guys?
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: For folks who aren't familiar, what is doc diving?
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: Doc diving is as simple as its dog running down
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: at jumping into a pool.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: Okay, and no weird rules? Are there any weird rules?
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: Or is it just simple where they throw the bumper
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: and the dog jumps as far as they can.
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: It's pretty much that simple.
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: You got a dog that loves to chase a toy
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: and loves water. It's that easy.
• 58:52
  Speaker 5: Hey, Steve, really quick, can we get you a little
• 58:54
  Speaker 5: bit closer to your computer? Please? Thank you so much.
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: I'll just move in we go.
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: Steve, walk us through and what the best breeds are
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: for dock diving.
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: Well, you guys are hunters, so obviously one would be
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: any kind of retriever, your labs, your short hairs, things
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: like that, wire hair pointers. Then you have your sport dogs,
• 59:15
  Speaker 4: your malonoise, you got whippets, pretty much any dog of
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: any size, they just need to be driving.
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: And describe us like the perfect dock diving dog in
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: terms of personality, age, sex.
• 59:29
  Speaker 4: If you have a dog that is psychotic, and you
• 59:32
  Speaker 4: don't want any part of dealing with it. Most of
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: the time, that's probably your best bet because they'll just
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: do whatever you want them to do and they'll give
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: a thousand percent.
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: Okay, good to know. Is there a dock diving goat
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: the greatest of all time when it comes to jump
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: in a long ways in water?
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: There absolutely is. She lives in Washington. Dog's name is Sounders.
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: It's a whippet. Holds the world record at thirty six
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: feet eleven inches.
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: Whoa what makes Sounders so good?
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: Sounders as fast? Sounders is athletic and he just wants
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 4: that toy.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: Okay? How did this become so popular and and go
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: from being an obscure sport to being on ESPN?
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: So the things I've heard is that somebody was out
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: with their dog. It was jumping off the dock at
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: the lake, and somebody thought, you know, I can probably
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: get a group of people together and we can try
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: to make that happen and make the company out of it.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: With competition, you know how people are They wanted my
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: dog can beat your dog, you guys hunt My buck
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: is bigger than your buck. My fish is bigger, right,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: So it's just a way to make make it more competitive.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: Huh, okay, cal, how would Snort perform at these competitions?
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 6: Not?
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: Well, she's a little bit too much of a thinker.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: The the cutest story I have about this though, because
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: I went to a Ducks Unlimited banquet here in Bozeman
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: met this little old lady who told me the reason
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: she was there. She's not a hunter. Her dogs and
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: doc jumping competitions. I said, well, how'd that happen? And
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: she's like, my husband just passed away. He had this
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: black lab that was totally his dog. Doesn't like me
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: at all, doesn't pay attention to me, doesn't listen to me.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: And I was riddled with Gil about getting rid of
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: the dog. And there was a doc jumping competition that
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: had like open enrollment some and so she just did it.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: And now her and the dog travel all over doing
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: the competitions and they love each other perfect. It's amazing, Steve.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: Do hunting dogs ever show up at your competitions?
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, lots of times. We have tons of hunting
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: dogs that they come and they're just I mean, it's
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: their thing, right. They either they do hunting trials, they
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: duck hunt, They pheasant hunt. They liked chase of Bumper
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: And the biggest thing is that the guys will bring
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 4: it or their wives, like in the story just told
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: they just want to do something with the dog and
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: they're like, oh, my dog loves water. So there's numerous yes.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: And if cal wants to get into doc diving, what
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: should he do?
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 4: So North America Diving Dogs we have close to ninety
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: facilities across the US and in Canada. We have eight
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: mobile docks that set up at AKC shows and we
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: put on and do try its, which is a thing. Otherwise,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: facilities are a good place to learn and to train,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: and then they also have events.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: And how do people watch your competitions?
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: So when we're doing events at shows or at facilities,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: I would say probably ninety five percent of the time
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: public's welcome and there's no charge. We also we are
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 4: teamed up with AKC and AKCTV. We get usually two
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: events here that they film and then those can be
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: seen on ESPN or ESPN two.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: Good stuff, very entertaining.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: I got a question about a quick question about the
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: cognitive ability of dogs. We used to have a labrador
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: that love She would jump off the end of the
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: dock like that, and it was one of the problems
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: if you were out swimming, she would then swim over
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: and scratch you to all hell, thinking she was somehow
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: going to climb on you somehow. But like I think,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: I thought about, let's say you had a dock and
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: you do that all the time and then one night
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: the lake freezes. It would be very interesting, do you
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: follow me. It would be very interesting to see if
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: to test or see if the dog, like how the
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: dog comprehends that. Do you know what I mean?
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: Well, one, I was afraid the dog wouldn't get hurt
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: if it did do it. But the other thing is
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 4: you're calling out like a lake in a pond, is
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 4: that there is a difference to the dogs. If you
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: got a dog that jumps at the lake a thousand
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 4: percent has zero issues with it. It'll do it all
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 4: day long.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: Huh uh.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: You bring them to clear water, which we have in
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 4: the pools, and it'll it'll throw them off.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: Oh is that right? They got like a certain environment
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: they like, yeah.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 4: I had a gentleman that came to my facility and
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 4: he had a hunting title dog and he was like,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 4: this is gonna be no problem, and he expected his
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 4: dog was just going to go in. He spent twenty
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 4: five minutes with his dog just sitting on the platform,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 4: just going, what are you expecting from me? It had
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: no idea.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: Do you ever find that there's dogs that like it
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: so much that they do it in the absence of
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: the toy?
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: Absolutely. We have actually a few dogs that yeah, they'll
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 4: bring them up on the dock and uh, they'll go
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  Speaker 4: go and the dog just jumps.
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  Speaker 3: Jumping. Oh.
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  Speaker 4: The worst part is they opened the gate to let
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  Speaker 4: him on the dock and the dog runs and jumps in. Luckily,
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  Speaker 4: we have it called the practice so they can take
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  Speaker 4: a practice jump and when they see that happening, they're
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  Speaker 4: like practice.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, really, well that's fun, Steve, Kelly, get anything else?
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  Speaker 3: No, that's it.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, that's great.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us, Steve, and thanks for entertaining
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  Speaker 2: us with those wet dogs.
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  Speaker 4: Not a problem, guys, thank you for having me.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 2: That brings us to the end of this week's show, Phil,
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  Speaker 2: let's do some final feedback from the chat.
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  Speaker 5: Sure, Steve, you wanted to talk about this question from Evan.
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  Speaker 5: Will a skunk spray when shot with a bower rifle.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well right, and like the guys using injectors now,
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  Speaker 3: like damage control guys. They use these like long hole,
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  Speaker 3: these long poles, and they have an injector. They can
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  Speaker 3: inject it so it doesn't spray. But the thing it
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  Speaker 3: used to be that if you if you can jab stick, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: if you could hit it in the heart, well the
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  Speaker 3: twenty two it'd have about a fifty percent chance of spraying.
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  Speaker 3: But then I calculated that you got about a fifty
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  Speaker 3: percent chance of hitting it in the heart, so the.
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  Speaker 2: Twenty percent chance.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, man, they they'll cut loose.
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  Speaker 5: Lance showed up late. Did Spencer cover his hunt? Yes,
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  Speaker 5: Lance could and rewind about an hour and you'll hear
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  Speaker 5: all about it. We had one just kind of related
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  Speaker 5: to buck fever, and I am oh, here he goes
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  Speaker 5: is from William Any advice with target panic. I've never
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  Speaker 5: had a problem with white tailor hogs with my bow,
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  Speaker 5: but started hunting public land Emulei's in New Mexico and
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  Speaker 5: can't seem to calm myself after drawing on them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, as you're hunting a bigger, cooler animal,
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  Speaker 1: So I get it. Don't believe in target panic. At all,
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  Speaker 1: don't listen to those people, don't be around those people.
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  Speaker 1: If that causes a divorce or something like that, that
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  Speaker 1: that's better for you in the long run.
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  Speaker 3: You know, Kenyon has that. I'm sure a lot of
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  Speaker 3: guys do, but Kenyon has Mark. Kenyon has this little
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  Speaker 3: mantra he goes through, like a three step mantra, but
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  Speaker 3: you have to practice hard on it, like I've toyed
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  Speaker 3: with it. But he's got like a boom boom boom
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  Speaker 3: every time he shoots an arrow, boom boom boom, like
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  Speaker 3: a mental checklist. I think if you could actually get
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  Speaker 3: that to be wrote, I feel that that would be
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  Speaker 3: and I don't do it, sure, but when you explain
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  Speaker 3: it to me, I'm like, that seems like a good idea.
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  Speaker 3: Though I haven't tried it, but it feels like a
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  Speaker 3: great idea to me.
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  Speaker 2: I think a lot of guys as like beyond just
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  Speaker 2: the mental thing will switch their style of release. So
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  Speaker 2: if you whatever kind of style you're shooting right now,
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  Speaker 2: if you just cannot beat target panic, try a different one,
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  Speaker 2: and really that'll do it for you.
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  Speaker 1: If target panic were to exist. But it doesn't, so yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it is like it's it's like a cult of people
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  Speaker 1: who are like they feed off of each other. So
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  Speaker 1: get away from those people. Get in front of a
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  Speaker 1: big target and practice your your shot. And I do
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  Speaker 1: this with with my recurve or long bow. Now, if
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  Speaker 1: I'm having a hard time hitting the spot on the
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  Speaker 1: target that I want to hit, I'll walk up to
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  Speaker 1: ten yards and and practice shooting with my eyes closed,
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  Speaker 1: where all I'm doing is concentrating on the release of
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  Speaker 1: that arrow. And as long as my arrow isn't hitting
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  Speaker 1: in a totally funky way, I know that everything's good
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  Speaker 1: with the bow. And it's just me and it's just
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  Speaker 1: a practice thing. Don't get sucked down the rabbit hole.
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  Speaker 1: Don't don't believe it.
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  Speaker 3: Bill.
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  Speaker 5: Let's do a couple more cool It's from Spencer Flip
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  Speaker 5: for the people who are getting their their Christmas gifts
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  Speaker 5: early and responsibly. Any new holiday gift ideas on the
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  Speaker 5: Meat Eater website or first Light. You guys have any
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  Speaker 5: sort of like stocking stuffer Old trucks Man, Yeah, the
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  Speaker 5: new calendar.
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  Speaker 2: It's an easy, easy stocking stuffer for you.
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  Speaker 3: You got to roll it up. I mean there's put
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  Speaker 3: in the stock.
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  Speaker 1: There's so much good there's like fun stuff and there's
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  Speaker 1: very practical stuff. It's a great stop on the on
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  Speaker 1: the list.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody could use a first light based layer. Doesn't matter
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  Speaker 2: like what stock.
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  Speaker 3: But he didn't say stocking. Why are we talking about stockings?
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  Speaker 3: I'm not sorry, I got the stocking stuffer.
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  Speaker 5: Was me doing some editorialized it's nice thing about the calendar.
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  Speaker 3: I don't mean to oversell this here, but if you
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  Speaker 3: roll it up put it in the stocking, it's then
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  Speaker 3: gonna expand and actually firm up and make a nice
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  Speaker 3: firm cylinder that you then put all kinds of other
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  Speaker 3: stuff into.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, kind of like a shell, like a mid layer
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  Speaker 5: for your stocking.
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  Speaker 2: Next week is no, We're two weeks away from Black Friday,
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  Speaker 2: Spencer flip, so hold out on your holiday shopping until then. Maybe.
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  Speaker 6: Uh.
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  Speaker 5: We got Logan asking about he loves eating northern pike.
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  Speaker 5: He's asking for the best way to cook or pickle them.
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  Speaker 5: If you guys have any go tos.
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  Speaker 2: Pickling them, you're you're gonna get rid of all those
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  Speaker 2: nasty y bones in there.
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  Speaker 3: So that's it is the thing. If you get a
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  Speaker 3: pike now and then it is the thing to do
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  Speaker 3: with pike in my view, it's so good and just
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  Speaker 3: takes all the hassle. Yes, I also like to chunk, like,
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  Speaker 3: just flay it, leave the pin bones in, cube it
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  Speaker 3: up and food process it into a I mean, for
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  Speaker 3: lack of a better word, I guess you could call
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  Speaker 3: the moose. You could call the paste and then make
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  Speaker 3: fish cakes and you don't know the bones are there. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Old Garrett Smith's dad he runs it through the
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  Speaker 1: grinder a couple of times until he has has a paste.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. You could pack it like a snowball. I'm like, yes,
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  Speaker 3: and you can just do fried fried balls. Put good
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  Speaker 3: stuff to eat in there, bread crumb, egg put all
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  Speaker 3: that good stuff to eat in their season. And then
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  Speaker 3: when you then make a little patty or a little ball,
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  Speaker 3: roll that and panco And if you do the panicle,
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  Speaker 3: then fry it very gently. It's got a crispy outside,
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  Speaker 3: a smooth soft middle. It's very very tasty.
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  Speaker 2: Pickling or fish cakes. You're not gonna have to worry
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  Speaker 2: about all those y bones. Let's do one more, Phil.
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  Speaker 5: Sure, we've had multiple questions about this. It's a hot,
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  Speaker 5: hot commodity. What's the hat that caw is wearing? Called
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 5: again from kleb Col's.
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  Speaker 1: Hat stocking stuff first light stormy chromer.
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  Speaker 3: That's right. But then you're stocking.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, great, great lid. Once the weather turns cold, it's
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  Speaker 1: not on all the timer. Tell you that, all right?
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  Speaker 3: You know it's funny. Can I tell you something real quick,
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  Speaker 3: my little my little boy, we're gonna name him something different,
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  Speaker 3: can you tell us? Yeah, we're gonna name him my
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  Speaker 3: wife's maiden name, Finch. So we before he was born,
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  Speaker 3: we ordered him up his stocking. Oh, but then we
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  Speaker 3: changed our minds.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, what a little easter egg.
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  Speaker 3: And so his stocking still doesn't have his name on it. Oh.
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  Speaker 2: I like that.
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  Speaker 3: Our dogs even got one with But it's got the
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  Speaker 3: right name of his stocking is not his name. It's
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  Speaker 3: so funny, dude, he's ten years old, same stocking.
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  Speaker 2: It's good. As soon as we stop recording here, I'm
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  Speaker 2: driving to you going deer hunting? No next week?
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  Speaker 3: Holy what are you going hunting for? Well?
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  Speaker 2: As soon as I tag out in Nebraska their season
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  Speaker 2: opens on Saturday, I am shooting up to South Dakota.
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  Speaker 2: I have a deer tag there as well.
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  Speaker 1: So is this a draw tag guy over here?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Real rich for certain parts of the state I had
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  Speaker 2: to draw to get a mule deer tag.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, is that what you have?
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  Speaker 2: I have a mule deer tag. Cool, And in South
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  Speaker 2: Dakota I have an any deer tag, which I also
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  Speaker 2: had to draw. So I'm out of here for the
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  Speaker 2: next there's going to be swimming in buck fever.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Well after killing that big Montana mule.
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  Speaker 2: Deer, I'm ready.
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  Speaker 1: I hope you don't get anything. Oh no, I'm kidding.
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  Speaker 2: All right, We'll see you guys back here next week,
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  Speaker 2: same time and place by now