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A and T in tonight's episode of Disguised Coverage, we continue with this series
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of building out the Buffalo Bills draft board. It's it's something that you know,
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I guess differs a little bit from the typical mock draft schedule and show
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running style that a lot of people engage in. Not that there's anything wrong
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with that, but I think having these detailed, higher level breakdown and evaluation
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conversations kind of put more things into perspective as we get get more into mock
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draft season, get closer towards the NFL Draft, and so this idea kind
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of came about organically, and I've liked the idea of bringing in different evaluators
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and analysts, getting their perspective and using it all to kind of put things
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into perspective for you folks watching and listening to this show again and really rounding
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out the Bills board talking about prospects, tiers, different positions and areas of
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need for this team. Last week we had Russell Brown on the show,
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tremendous gust and friend of the show. And we continue to trudge on with
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Part two in this series, and to join me on Part two or in
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Part two of this series, mister James Foster of the A to Z Sports
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Film Room. James, I'm happy to have you here. You do great
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work. I think you and I started engaging like two draft seasons ago and
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just talking about draft stuff. I had you on the show show to do
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Bills Titans a couple of years ago in that Week two matchup, I think
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later that same year when we first started engaging on Twitter. You do a
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ton of film stuff, a ton of evaluation rankings and spreadsheets and combining stuff
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and comps. You're generally, like, genuinely, I should say, a
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really really good draft resource, and you do good work. I appreciate you
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for being here and welcome to the show. I appreciate the kind words,
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thanks for having me on. And you you know, you've always done like
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the A to Z sports stuff and the breakdown pieces and film cut ups and
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all that on Twitter. But you know, like I mentioned, with you
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doing the A to Z Sports Film Room, now you know platform is yours
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a little bit right now, tell everybody kind of what you do and where
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you're living in and draft space and all that all that kind of stuff.
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Yeah, so you can find me on Twitter at No Flag's Film and then
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on YouTube. I run the A to Z Sports Film Room YouTube channel,
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do a bunch of film breakdowns on there, doing my positional rankings videos right
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now, trying to crank those out leading up to the draft and having some
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issues with college film on YouTube. It's it's kind of a dangerous game putting
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that out there. But once the draft's over, we'll be back to the
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film breakdowns, which I'm excited for. Yeah, man, it's NFL stuff
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is getting cracked down on a bit, and college film is always walking in
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general, like just getting access to it. It's like the black market of
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like sports film, like getting college all twenty two and yeah, the actual
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like posting of it and breaking stuff down and doing things. But like I
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said, you're you're genuinely like a go to source for me. You do
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great stuff and just the edits and putting everything together the players. You focus
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on the positional rankings all that stuff, And that's kind of what spurred this
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conversation and you being a guest on tonight's show, and like I said,
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I am very pumped to have you and let's I guess just dive right into
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it because we had a bunch of stuff to talk about and a bunch of
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stuff to break down. Wide receiver is a big position of conversation for Bill's
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mafia, for Bill's fame. If you do a mock draft and your first
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pick like isn't a wide receiver, people are going to be very, very
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upset. It doesn't matter who you get. It could be. There would
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be some exceptions, but like Dallas Turner could fall to twenty eight and you
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could take them, and fans are still going to be pissed because you didn't
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take a wide receiver. Or even if you traded and got all this value
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in all these picks, if you didn't get this one specific wide receiver,
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fans will potentially be up in arms. So wide receiver is a really big
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topic of conversation for the Buffalo Bills and for their fans. Given what the
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roster looks like in the first three are really set whatever order. You know,
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you may have two and three, but Marvin Harrison, Junior, Malik
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Neighbors, Romo Donza, those are the big three. After the big three,
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I think is really where the conversation starts, not just in relation to
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the Bills, but really in that first round, like kind of the whole
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conversation myself and Russell Brown got into it last week a bit and trying to
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map out and diagram what the first twenty seven picks would look like. One
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of those conversation pieces built into that was how many wide receivers would go and
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who would be on the board for the Bills if they wanted to go wide
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receiver at twenty eight. But let's look at a large scale right now.
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So forget Harrison, forget neighbors for ghetto doonsay, who are the next three
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wide receivers for you? After those? So for me, I have,
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you know, after the top tier of Harrison, Neighbors of Donsay, I
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have a tier of two players with Ady Mitchell as my fifteenth overall player and
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Brian Thomas Junior at nineteenth, and then after that I've got Lad McConkie and
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Xavier Worthy at twenty nine and thirty one, respectively. So those are those
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are the seven receivers that I have in my top thirty two. Ady Mitchell,
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I am, I can check here. Yeah, I'm as high on
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Ady Mitchell as as pretty much anyone. There's a couple of people that have
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them at fourteenth on their board, but I am, I'm eres responsibly high
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on Ady Mitchell. You know, I understand the downside that he's in the
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bottom left corner on a lot of production plots and stuff, and you know
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he takes takes routes off when he's on the back side of the play.
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But man, I think that if you actually dive into his film, the
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number of plays where he's a part of the progression and he's actually being like
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locked up by man coverage, you know, it's it's pretty hard to find
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those. It's hard to find plays where he drops the ball. You know
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it when he is actually fully engaged, he has route running fluidity and change
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of direction that you just can't teach for a player of his size. And
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I mean I very early in the draft process, like I try to isolate
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myself. Like early, I try to isolate myself from as external analysis as
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much as I can, and then, you know, later try to try
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to listen to to people that know what they're talking about and taken opposing viewpoints.
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But you know, early in the process, I went into Texas offense
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with no preconceived notion of Ady Mitchell, and I think the first game I
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watched, he had thirty or forty receiving yards. But I came away from
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it saying, this is a first round pick. And you know, I
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think as the season progressed and depending, they started to use him and involve
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him a little bit more in the passing offense. He had some issues with
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inaccurate quarterbacks. I think that similar to Brian Thomas, he flashes some elite
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skills as a contested catch threat, but inconsistent physicality at the catch point I
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think for a player of his size. But yeah, Adie Mitchell is a
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clear first round grade to me, and I think the next best out of
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the first round receivers. It's so funny when you talked about your evaluation process
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because I almost do the exact same thing, Like I don't want to know
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and like if I'm talking about we'll use a Mitchell for example, Like if
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I'm talking about him and someone's about to be like, oh, you know
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who really likes A. D. Mitchell And they go to say, I'm
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like no, no, no, no, no, Like don't tell me,
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Like I don't want to know who likes them, who doesn't what their
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thought process is. It's the same one I do. Like in season breaking
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down film after games on Sundays or Mondays or whatever. I isolate myself completely
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from social media and anything because I don't want to see a breakdown of a
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play. I don't want to get any cause even even if you try your
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damnedest to be like, you know, I'm gonna flush that out. I'm
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not gonna let that influence me. Even if it's not in the forefront of
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your brain, it's in like the back of your mind. Especially if you're
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hearing or reading stuff or seeing stuff from people that you respect, it's kind
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of really hard to not let that cloud your judgment. Yeah, And so
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there's no way I can just you know, listen to an Athletic Football Show
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episode in September or something and hear Dan Brugler just like gush about a player
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and then like not let that at least influence my my biases heading into it.
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Like at this point, you know, I feel confident enough in my
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own valueuations that I'm more than willing to to, you know, go away,
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go against consensus or whatever. But yeah, I like to just I
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like to just try to go into it with a perfectly clean slate, and
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I'm not losing any sleep over missing on an evaluation because I know it's going
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to happen. So it's like, you know, there's gonna be some players
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that I miss on where maybe if I would have just played it safe and
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like tried to you know, shape it off of consensus, I would have
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hit on them. But you know whatever, that's that's why I'm not a
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GM. That's I'm glad that my job security isn't tied to that. Yeah,
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that's a really good point, and it's good just to again, like
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when you're confident in your process. I think that's such an important piece.
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And that's one of my favorite things about you, Like you were the people,
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the players you break down, or your evaluation. It's not just like
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Okay, I've seen or heard this one hundred times, like you can tell
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whether right or wrong, Like this is your process, this is what you
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believe in. And I like to operate in that same way. And with
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Mitchell, i'd say similar to you, like I shielded myself from everything I
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had nothing really going. I watched him a little bit before I went to
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the Senior Bowl in early February. I watched the Alabama Texas game. That
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was the first game I watched for him and I came away like wow,
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like I really like this, but again shielded myself, which was really hard
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to at the friggin' Senior Bowl when everybody wants to like talk prospects, like
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I tried to really anytime I heard if Ulessa was a player at the Senior
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Bowl, I really tried to stay away from conversations and not engage with my
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ears or mouth. But I recognized some of the flaws that he had.
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But I came away from his tape similar to you, I was like wow,
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like I see this guy with this smooth athletic fluidity, like and I
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recognized the whole effort at times, or him not running routes at full speed,
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but I'd watch him in juxtaposed him with Xavier Worthy, who runs a
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lot of his routes at full speed. And Xavier Worthy is coming off the
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line hard and Mitchell isn't. But they're at like the same level. Granted,
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maybe like Mitchell's on the line or what of the's on the line,
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and Mitchell's offered vice versa, and maybe that like throws a little someone's got
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like a half a step head start. But when I see like the power
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and the suddenness out of his breaks and the explosion, the way he high
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points the football, the contested catch ability you see, Like, there's a
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couple that stick in my head, the big the long touchdown against Alabama where
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he puts the move on key, he sells outside, gets him to open
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up a little bit and then just stabs boom, hits the middle and then
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tracks it over the top and brings it in. Is beautiful. And then
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he's got one against kool Aid McKinstry, who I really really really like.
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Texas kind of backed up in the shadow of their own goal line and it's
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just a contested catch downfield up the side, and yeah, you know which
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one. It is, like he doesn't hold the sideline, yep. And
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if you're watching the tape, it's going from left to right. Yeah,
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and it's like it's that's a hard catch and mckinstrey's got his hand in there.
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He punches through the hands and Mitchell just makes that really nice catch.
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And I was impressed like watching him, And so when I came to the
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rest of the world, I was surprised to see how polarizing of a guy
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he is, Like you really, I feel like there's not a lot of
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in between. With Mitchell, it's either no, I'm completely out because of
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the stats or because of the lack of effort I see at times, and
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then there's nothing in the middle, and then everyone else that likes him is
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pure No, he's wide receiver four for me, or he's wide receiver five.
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I believe in the explosion. I believe he can be coached up type
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of thing. And it's funny that you mentioned him in conjunction with Brian Thomas,
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because I put kind of both of them in a different boat stylistically,
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but also similar because Thomas, you know, six three two hundred ten pounds
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running that four to three forty. But I feel like a lot of his
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projection is also projection. I know there's again a different size or frame element
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to them, but Thomas is far from a polished player. I think he
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takes routes off at times. He's not a complete route runner at all.
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But I feel like that label has gotten passed on more to Mitchell than it
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has Thomas, and I think really they're more similar than they are different in
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terms of like kind of that expectation in ceiling versus four to a degree,
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although I do think the ceiling is potentially higher with Thomas just given the overall
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ridiculous I mean, when you're six three and two hundred and ten and you
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run a four to three, that's wow. But yeah, it's funny how
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that's gone to Mitchell and not so much to Thomas. Yeah, I think
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they are. They're very similar players, you know, just in the sense
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of the size, speed, athleticism, but having some red flags you know,
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on the field. I think that to me, the one thing that
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really separates Mitchell from Thomas is that I think Mitchell can come away and come
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into the NFL and immediately be an intermediate separator at a high level. Like
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with with Thomas. I just don't see quite that ability to snap off his
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routes the way that Mitchell can, like just you know, the cute angles
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just sinking the hips and creating so much horizontal separation with Mitchell is what really
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sold me. And then I mean the speed I thought he had, you
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know, good speed on tape. Didn't quite expect a four to three,
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four whatever it was. Yeah, but you know, the speed's just kind
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of icing on the cake. To me. What really really sold it was
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the quickness and the fluidity in and out of breaks with Thomas. I think
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that is a little bit lacking, and I think it might be somewhat of
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an athletic limitation with Thomas, and so you know, I kind of see
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him as being more of I think probably to me, the most common outcome
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if you ran a million simulations for Brian Thomas is a high end wide receiver
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two where like you're still looking to get that complete guy that can run the
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entire route tree to pair with him. Oh, I like that. I
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think that's fair. And yeah, it's there's this I don't know if it's
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just the way he moves and talking about Mitchell, like he comes out of
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cuts sometimes and like the lower body like flection that he has, and I
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always like it's like he's got a recoil, like he leans and just bang
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like he And it's so funny too, because like it's on routes where like
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it doesn't look like he's trying. It looks like he's running like thirty percent
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and he's running a slam. But he puts that foot in the ground and
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stabs and when he comes out, he creates like five yards of separation instantly,
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like the power and the explosion that's there, and it's also I also
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wonder too a fair amount what's coached and what's expected, which is obviously like
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so hard for us to know, because there's like there's reps where he has
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some of like the worst blocking attempts I've ever seen. And so my first
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thought is the first four games I watched were Alabama, TCU, Kansas State,
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and Oklahoma State. And the first three games yeah, yes and so,
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and but that Kansas State game, crazy amount of production. I came
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away from that game being like, I don't like him, And then I
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watched some of the lower production games after and I was like, I like
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him more, even though his production is less than these ones. But he's
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got a block in the Oklahoma State game. It's a fourth and one and
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he's leading it out. He's got to block the corner and he just wrecks
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him, gets his hands on him, drives him out, kicks him out.
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Texas gets the first down. It's all because of his block on the
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front side. But almost like the heavy majority, like I would say ninety
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seven percent of any blocking rep before that that I saw, it looked like
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he couldn't care less. And then I see that one and I'm like,
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Okay, he can do it, and so I wonder wherever he goes,
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like he's got so much ability, and people talk about the flashes, either
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positively or negatively, and I really feel like he's that guy who I think
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he has so much potential, but where he goes and what your expectations are
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for him are strongly going to shape what he is. And I don't know
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if it's a lack of those expectations at Texas or it was like, yeah,
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we don't care if you don't block on this player, you know,
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take this off or don't do whatever, like because you just see some of
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that inconsistency in his game, but if you can get those positive flashes out
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of him more consistently, man, And I do like your point from an
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intermediate perspective versus Thomas, Like the most encouraging thing I saw about Thomas aside
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from like, aside from just being like big guy runs fast on a couple
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of his hitches and routes, like you'd see him sink his hips and it
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wouldn't take him too many steps and like, okay, like that's a positive
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thing. But Mitchell, you're watching him separate on inbreakers he's a really good
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inbreaking route runner, like the slants again, that explosion he in the low
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red zone. He operates that with that deception and he's got the ability to
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create doubt in the corner. And when you pair that with the explosion out
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of hell on those quick slants on the goal line that first touchdown against Bam.
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But he just he's done and yours just waits for I think Caleb downs
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is the safety come in and he just waits for Mitchell to clear him.
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McKinstry's beat in an instant. Yeah, it's done. He's got another one
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in the Big Twelve Championshipgainst Oklahoma State doesn't get the ball it targeted. Yeah,
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I like the lower part of the screen, just wild separation and I
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see that and I just and I get again, I get the other parts.
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But yeah, I just wasn't expecting. Like I came to Twitter and
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posted my stuff and the amount of people that were like, yeah, I
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love him, and then just as many were like no, I hate him.
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He sucks. And I was like, oh, I wasn't expecting like
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this type of kind of diconomy. I guess. So getting out of that
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grouping, so we talked a little bit about Thomas, We talked a bit
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about Mitchell. You gave your other ranking pieces. When we come to the
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Buffalo Bills, say they're going to take a wide receiver at twenty eight in
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your estimation, given what the roster looks like, and given you know your
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evaluation for these prospects, which wide receiver again, for everyone playing at home,
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aside from the Big three. I don't want to hear anybody be like,
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man, it'd be really ideal. If Romo does the fell He's not
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going to fall. So which wide receiver aside from the Big three is the
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ideal fit in your estimation for the Buffalo Bills. So let me rank.
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Let me rank the four. I like this receivers that I think you could
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justify taking at twenty eight for the Bills. Is it twenty eight or twenty
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seven? Twenty eight? Twenty eight? Okay? So I would say eighty
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Mitchell. I would say Brian Thomas Junior. I would say Xavier Lagette,
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yes, nice, and then hot take. But I would say Jermaine Burton,
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bro no hot takes around here. I love Jermaine Burton, and he
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he the thing, and I always get the caveat with everything. His interview
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process is going to be so important because of you know, the character stuff.
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But from an on the field like tape perspective, dude, like the
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speed, the athleticism downfield, he's able to high point the football. He's
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back shoulder catching stuff off frame. He's a much better route runner than he
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gets credit for. He's got a really great rocker step, and he's got
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toughness and speed after the catch. He's a He's got one touchdown and I
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think it's against A and M. Well, he's got a bunch of plays
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against A and M. But catches a slant at like the fifteen, breaks
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two tackles and then got the speed to change the angle on the safety and
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he's gone. Like he does so much and I don't know if the character
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stuff is driving him down, but know how to take care at all,
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like or sitting here with me, like I really really loved Jermaine Burton from
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and again before anybody jumps down or throw trump and on the field tape perspective,
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there's a ton of like with Burton. Interesting that you go. So
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Mitchell's been a popular one for Bills fans. Thomas has been there as well.
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I think for if I had to like pull it, I think for
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most Bills fans, Brian Thomas is the ideal like get has creeped up there.
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But I think the three like ideal in a realistic fashion right now is
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some combination of Thomas, Mitchell and the GET. I really like either of
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those three in the Bills lineup and roster this year, because I and I
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talked about it on last week's episode. Whoever you draft at twenty, say
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you take a receiver at twenty eighty for the Bills, right and he becomes
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like wide receiver two this year potentially, which isn't necessarily a guarantee, because
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Curtis Samuel could be a wide receiver two for you. But whoever you take
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is target or option like four, five or six. Because Stefon Diggs is
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one, Dalton kin Kate is two. If you're factoring in the run game
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and looking at touches, James Cook is probably two from a pass catching standpoint
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and a running standpoint. But either way your top three, you're looking at
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Diggs, Cook, Kinkad, You've got Curtis Samuel, You've got Khalil Shakir,
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You've got Dawson Knox, like, you've got these pieces already. So
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taking someone with raw physical tools like a Thomas, like a Legette for instance,
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or again even Mitchell, like with that size profile, the frame profile,
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that true X type of potential and frame and body type that isn't present
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on this roster, and allowing them to develop as a rookie while there's not
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a lot of pressure because again their option four, five or six or whatever.
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I think, like Legette, I think makes a ton of sense for
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that because I mean, just the Bills don't have a dude with his size,
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power, long speed, but he needs to develop more from a stem
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perspective and a route tree perspective. Cool, let him do that as a
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rookie, and all he has to do is be big, strong and fast.
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Similar with Brian Thomas. I think Mitchell is in a similar boat.
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But to your point, I think Mitchell is is ahead of both of those
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guys when it comes to route running in terms of their route tree and stem
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work and all that. But it's I think that that gets lost in the
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conversation for a lot of people because it's like, we need a wide receiver,
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two, we need a wide receiver two. Yeah, technically from a
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depth chart perspective, but your wide receiver two is really kincaate. And then
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with what Cook does at best, you're looking at forward. But now you've
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got Samuel, now you've got Shakir. So I think that gives the Bills
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a lot of options in terms of getting someone who can develop as a rookie
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and then potentially hit that ceiling, because you don't need them to hit that
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ceiling, you know, and hit the ground running if you take them this
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year. Yeah, and for the Bills specifically, you know, I'm thinking
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of it in terms of not only this next year, but having a Stefan
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Diggs replacement down the line. Yeah, you know, And like I think
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that Adie Mitchell, Xavier Lagette, those are players that could potentially develop into
24:12
wide receiver ones. Whereas someone like Lad McConkey, who I have rated higher
24:18
than Laget, It's hard for me to see him being the number one option
24:22
on a team's, you know, in a team's passing game. I think
24:26
he has a very high chance of being, you know, at least a
24:30
number two, like solid number two options. So yeah, I think that,
24:36
you know, not to keep laboring the Adie Mitchell versus Brian Thomas point.
24:40
But you know, I think that just what what Adie Mitchell's potential is
24:44
as a separator running the full route tree, I think is someone that could
24:48
come in and start out as a secondary option and then you know, develop
24:52
and maybe improve his effort and eventually you know, become the number one option.
25:00
I think it's a fair point. Like it's it's that weighing of the
25:02
ceiling versus the floor. And yeah, Mkonki is an interesting one for me
25:06
because I don't I don't know what his ceiling is or how much there is
25:12
for him to hit a ceiling. And I don't see that negatively. I
25:17
say that because I think his floor is just so high already, Like he
25:21
is a professional route runner at an NFL level right now. You see it
25:26
on tape, I saw it at the Senior Bowl. I think he can
25:29
work outside and inside. Him running in the four threes was something I did
25:33
not expect at all, both him and Ricky Piersall. I didn't expect Pearsall
25:37
to run a four to four to one. I didn't expect Mkaki to hit
25:40
in the four threes, but not even just from a vertical you know,
25:44
straight line speed standpoint. You can see McConkey Win downfield on the tape.
25:48
There's a route or a rep against Tennessee where he's running a vertical and he
25:52
uses a rocker step in a go route to freeze the corner and then shift
25:57
and get around him and he's gone. He doesn't the football, but he
26:00
creates like five six yards of separation. I think he can work inside and
26:03
outside. But I wonder, yeah, like how tapped out is he already
26:08
towards his max? But I think what the good news for him is is
26:12
the if he is already kind of tapped out to that max, he just
26:17
gives you such a high flour because he can run anything and everything from a
26:19
variety of alignments. He's super smart with that high functional football IQ. So
26:25
you're getting like exactly your point. Like, I don't know if he'll ever
26:27
be a wide receiver one or like a true one, but he's a plug
26:33
and play wide receiver two from the minute he steps on the field, even
26:36
as a rookie, like right now, in almost any offense. Yeah,
26:38
and like the really the one thing that I think is just limiting his upside
26:45
quote unquote is size you know you see that. Yeah, both of the
26:49
catch point, Like I don't really trust him to win contested catches in the
26:52
NFL. I also thought his his route speed really dropped off if he was
26:57
having to deal with physicality down the stem. Like if if you just can
27:02
get him clean releases, I mean, he's gonna he's gonna like he's gonna
27:07
cook fleck footed corners if he's got a two way go. But you know,
27:11
if you've got Pats or tan Uh in press coverage, you know,
27:15
I think that he has the foot speed to shake guys at the line of
27:18
scrimmage sometimes. But then if he if he just kind of has to power
27:22
through a two hand jam and they're they're in phase down the field, I
27:26
feel like he might kind of get blanketed a little bit. But yeah,
27:30
I think, you know, plug and play high end wide receiver too.
27:34
My three comps for him, I've got Deontay Johnson's sterling Shepherd and Brandon Stokely,
27:40
so like a combination of those three players. But yeah, really really
27:44
like Lad McConkie. He's a top thirty two player for me. And yeah,
27:47
I I I echo a lot of those sentiments and I similar to the
27:49
Yeah, like what holds it back from me in a true one? I
27:52
just don't know with his and it's yeah, it's more of a like a
27:56
frame concern for me. Yeah, Like how much is he really separating get
28:00
the catch point if he has to go up and get it? Like is
28:03
he winning those contested catches regularly? Like, And the one clip that sticks
28:06
in my head is Terry and Arnold clamping down on him late in that SEC
28:11
game after Mconkeie cooked him earlier a little bit and not completely cooked him,
28:14
but ran a really nice outroute on him. Yeah, I just wonder against
28:17
like against NFL size and length from an outside standpoint, Like you're facing longer,
28:22
bigger corners usually on the outside. What happens if you get into those
28:26
press alignments, even if it's a soft shoe press, right, guys that
28:30
are gonna kind of close down that space and not allow you to breathe.
28:33
His release is gonna have to be almost extremely precise and winnable every single time,
28:40
which udventually happens. He's got a good release package. But yeah,
28:42
Like I just worry a little bit from a size and frame standpoint. But
28:45
again that's just for like the ceiling. Like, like we talked about,
28:48
his floor is so high already. I want to throw another name into that
28:52
mix just to get your thought. Javon Baker, what do you think about
28:53
wide receiver from the wide receiver from UCF. Yeah, I really like Javon
28:59
Baker. It's funny with this receiver class because like people ask me about someone
29:03
and I'll be like, yeah, I really like him. He's my wide
29:04
receiver twenty six. Like it seems so insulting, dude, I've done that
29:10
with like I've I've been on Baker since before the Senior Bowl, liked him
29:14
even more when I saw him in person the Senior Bowl. And so I
29:17
probably if you search my Twitter handle in Javon, like if you search pro
29:21
and Chavon, I probably have like literally fourteen fifteen clips just gushing about him.
29:25
And yet at that point, if someone's like, man, like you
29:26
love Javon Baker, Like where do you have him? I'd be like,
29:29
man, I'd really like to get him at the back end of round two.
29:32
And someone's like, what, but you said you really like him?
29:34
Like yeah, you know, I really like him, Like I'd love to
29:36
get him at pick sixty. Yeah, and like and especially with this receiver
29:40
class. It's like, I think of Javon Baker as someone in a normal
29:44
year that would be my wide receiver nine or ten or something. I've got
29:48
him at wide receiver sixteen. So I really like him, Like the the
29:53
creativity and the manipulation, the uncertainty that he's able to to force corners into
30:02
at the line of scrimmage and at the top of the route. It's he's
30:06
just he's a fun player to watch man, and like, I feel like
30:10
it's sometimes, you know, he needs to kind of trim the fat off
30:14
of some of his releases. There's a little bit too much dancing at the
30:17
line of scrimmage. I feel like, but the dancing is really fun something.
30:19
But no, but it's it's it's awesome, you know, it's awesome.
30:22
It's like sometimes I just watch back these plays and I'm like, Okay,
30:27
this is not really this might not fly in the NFL, but coaching
30:33
as soon as you said that real quick. The one that comes to I
30:34
think it's his touchdown against Villanova where he like he literally is just like this
30:40
at the line for like three seconds and then just completely goes by his man
30:44
runs a corner separates and wins and that I love it. But at the
30:47
same time, I'm like, I don't think you can spend like two and
30:48
a half seconds one Yeah, but also like this was pretty baller, and
30:55
you know, the ball skills if you just he's a player, where like
31:00
if you just watched his highlights, you know, the ball skills are incredible.
31:04
His ability to to high point it and pluck it out of the air,
31:08
and you know some of his over the shoulder ball tracking, being able
31:14
to win through contact at the catch point. And then there's just inexplicable drops
31:19
and lapses and focus. Like he had two plays that I watched where he
31:26
dropped a wide open, accurate pass and it ended up getting intercepted. And
31:32
you know, he's had a pretty high drop rate every season of his career,
31:36
so that that adds a little bit of uncertainty for me. I also
31:40
don't think he has great deep speed. I really like his ability to decelerate
31:45
and and cut off you know, routes on the vertical plane, but it
31:51
felt like he struggled to pull away from from corners vertically sometimes. So yeah,
31:56
I've got a late third round grade on him. I think just h
32:00
Michael Gallup type of receiver is what I project him being and definitely like his
32:07
his play demeanor. He's someone that I'm gonna be a fan of regardless of
32:12
what team he goes to. Yeah, when he blew that kiss to the
32:15
Oklahoma side and I was like, yes, sign me up for him.
32:17
Let's stick on this wide receiver train before we switch to some other positions.
32:22
Favorite Day two and Day three wide receiver. Wide receivers could be multiple guys,
32:28
could be one. Who are some of the guys that you like in
32:30
rounds two and three or four and later? All right, so I two
32:37
for each day. The first one we touched on a little bit for Day
32:39
two is Jermaine Burton. Really, you know, the only thing that's that's
32:47
holding me back from a first round grade. I've got him forty first overall,
32:51
right now is just the off the field stuff. You know, hit
32:54
the hit the girl after the UT game when they were storming the field.
32:59
You'll see him on tape like doing some Grays and Allen type of stuff,
33:02
kicking people in the unmentionables after the play. So yeah, interview is going
33:09
to be huge for him, But on tape there's just not too many flaws
33:15
that you can pick out in his game. I think, you know,
33:17
can run the entire route tree, ninety degree angle cuts, outstanding ball skills,
33:23
he's got speed. I wish he had a more diverse release package,
33:28
but you know, I think he can be just a Z receiver that eventually
33:34
could develop into a team's number one option. My second day two guy that
33:39
I had is probably more of a third round pick, but it's Maleik Washington.
33:45
Nice got him as wide receiver fifteen. To me, Malik Washington is
33:54
the experience that I was hoping to have watching Malachai Corley's tape. Nice.
34:02
I like what he can do after the catch. I comped him to a
34:07
spring doorstop you know those, Yeah, because it's like people defenders will come
34:14
and tackle him high and he just plants his feet in the ground kind of
34:17
like binds a little bit and then your springs right back up. Has that
34:22
elite contact balance, good vision after the catch. He's a smaller player,
34:28
but he catches everything. He doesn't drop the ball. He's outstanding in contested
34:34
catch situations, great ball tracking skills. I think he's an above average route
34:39
runner. He's got some you know, deceptive salesmanship at the top of the
34:44
route and stuff. Not not one of these elite like joystick type of Zay
34:51
Flowers type of you know movers. And I feel like, I think he
34:55
ran a good forty time, but I feel like the speed kind of tops
34:59
out a little bit. I wish he had a little bit more juice running
35:02
down the field, but as just a solid, like you know, high
35:08
end slot receiver man. I'm a huge fan of mo League Washington. He
35:13
got a ton of targets at Virginia, but the production was still their overall
35:17
and out of eight let me see, there were one hundred and ten players
35:22
this past season that had at least eighty targets. He was tied for ninth
35:25
in yards per route run. And you see him doing it in a variety
35:28
of ways that he's getting some screens and then he's winning the intermediate, he's
35:30
getting some vertical stuff. He can win in the low red zone and separate.
35:34
He's got a really nice like stutter go double moves, like his ability
35:37
to like anticipate and sell enough and again with him, I'm in a similar
35:44
board. I was hoping he'd test better from like a true forty long speed
35:47
perspective. But where he wins, where his speed really comes in, I
35:52
think, is that burst that he shows like in and out of, like
35:55
being able to sell that deception a double move or coming out of it,
35:58
like when he makes when he makes some they running open, they run a
36:00
lot of out and ups with them. Yeah. Absolutely, and again it
36:04
makes sense like you want, all you need is somebody to bite and give
36:07
slight hesitation and then when he kicks it back up again, he's gone.
36:10
And there's a couple of reps too on like screens, like there's one,
36:14
Oh, I forget who it's against, but it's like a fifty yard gain
36:17
and he makes probably forty of it happen because he bounces off like three defenders
36:23
like ten yards past the line of scrimmage. They hit him, and he's
36:27
just got with his frame and that power and that contact balance combined with the
36:30
speed, he's our dude to bring down after the cat. So i'm I'm
36:34
I'm a big fan of Malak Washington. And now that you said it too,
36:37
like I keep saying that, Like I like Malik Washington, I like
36:39
TODs Washington. There's so many like receivers that I really like and it'll be
36:45
like, oh, like where do you have him? Like all the fourth
36:46
round, all like the round, but it's just not even the round,
36:51
but like the just in this class, the overall rankings sounds so disrespectful compared
36:57
to how you actually view them, because like when we go into day three,
37:01
one of my one of my guys that I had is is Taj Washington
37:07
who you mentioned, and I've got him at wide receiver twenty six, but
37:10
you know, that's still a fifth round grade for me. And you know,
37:14
I think he's kind of a more of an average athlete, but he
37:20
is a very technically sound, nuanced route runner, just very patient setting up
37:28
his routes, shifting gears. I think flashed the ability to win and contested
37:32
catches, but he's not you know, doesn't really have the size to like
37:37
carve out his own catch space. And but he does play bigger at the
37:39
catch point that he has any right to give it his like height and frame,
37:44
Like he makes some catches like I know, what's he's still going to
37:45
struggle in the NFL, but he goes up and get and gets it to
37:49
a point that I was expecting pure jitterbug stuff when I saw the size and
37:52
frame, and he's out there like outleaping dudes, like get post safeties and
37:57
taking shots in the middle of the field. Split into high life, going
38:00
up and getting it and coming down with it like more than he has any
38:02
right to. Yeah only, I mean only had one drop this past season.
38:07
He wins after the catch. He's got four hundred and sixty two special
38:12
team snaps for his career. You know, those are the type of players
38:15
that I give a half a half a round bump to just you know,
38:20
no teams are going to value that. So yeah, I mean he's another
38:24
I think just like maybe lower ceiling but high floor type of slot prospect.
38:30
Another another player that I think can win on the outside, actually played mostly
38:35
on the outside in college, is Anthony Gold out of Oregon State. Nice,
38:40
really big fan of his releases off the line of scrimmage. He's got
38:45
one of the most diverse release packages in this class. He just puts press
38:50
corners in a blender. The foot speed, the ability to snap off horizontal
38:58
route breaks. Interesting that I thought that he kind of struggled at times with
39:02
curl routes. He didn't look as fluid sinking his hips, but he was
39:07
a great tester at the combine had a four three nine forty thirty nine and
39:13
a half inch vertical. You know, I think that what he can do
39:17
probably as a Z receiver, He's He's one of my favorite of all the
39:22
smaller Day three receivers. Anthony Gold's my favorite. I have him twenty first
39:29
on my receiver board. Nice. He was one way I made a note
39:34
of early on when I was watching Fuaga for Oregon State and like, I
39:38
would just see this receiver that kept popping off, and I was like,
39:43
okay, like I need to make a note of like who that is so
39:45
I can come back to him later. And I came back to him way
39:47
late. And in between that, like I just I would post a clip
39:51
of any receiver and I would get people on Twitter being like, oh,
39:53
what do you think, Anthony Cole, what do you think? Anthy goeb?
39:55
I'm not there yet. I'm not there yet. And then of course
39:59
he runs that four three and just solidifies, like more hype for him.
40:02
I'm interested to see like a lot of these smaller frame, smaller body dudes
40:09
kind of even though like Washington is like Malik Washington is stick but like Todds
40:13
is on the smaller size and frame man like Old is a little bit as
40:15
well. I'm really interested for a lot of these guys after last year's class
40:20
with you know, for me, Jordan Anderson was wide receiver one, but
40:24
from a traditional standpoint, much smaller in size and frame than what like a
40:29
normal wide receiver one is in a class. I really like Josh Downs,
40:32
he was super small. I was very, very very high on tank Dell
40:36
extreme outlier from a size perspective. I'm wondering how much like those size outlier
40:43
guys continue to do as or continue to do in the league, not even
40:46
just as rookies, but overall as we go forward. I guess even even
40:50
Exavier Worthy falling into that group as well, even though I don't think he
40:53
plays at one hundred and sixty five pounds. I think he went down to
40:57
that to try and run that four two one for a mid one seventies,
41:00
and then it's probably run like a four to two eight, like oh no,
41:02
if he's like ten pounds heavy or whatever, maybe even still faster.
41:07
I'm wondering how much, like whether it's earlier guys or Day two or Day
41:10
three guys like the smaller framed guys who do have technical ability and nuance to
41:16
their game, but again our outliers from a size and frame perspective, I'm
41:21
wondering how much of like the bucking of the trend we continue to see.
41:25
And I put Gold and TODG. Washington, both of those guys kind of
41:30
in that category, and like I'm interested to see, I don't know,
41:32
do we start to see archetype changes when when people come to like look at
41:37
wide receivers in the NFL. Yeah, it's almost like last year was uh,
41:43
you know, walking out on the battlefield to test for land mines and
41:46
like you know, some teams gamble on on the outlier receivers that were good
41:52
at everything else, and for the most part, it's it's kind of worked
41:54
out. Although you know, it's funny because I think at this point we
42:00
would say it worked out. I still think that a lot of the issues,
42:05
at least with some of these players that they you know, we had
42:09
concerns about them as prospects, I think showed up on their NFL tape.
42:14
Like with Tank Dell. It wasn't the tape thing, but he got injured,
42:16
which was a big concern, But it was like a Fluke like he's
42:20
blocking on a duo run and like, I feel like guy's legs are gonna
42:23
snap at that point. Yeah, I'm I'm with you. Like, but
42:29
it's the head of head of like NFL teams and how they might view it.
42:35
And like Jordan Addison, I thought my biggest issue was press coverage,
42:38
and he he was I've never seen anything like it. He's excellent at everything
42:45
except he just gets dominated by press. It's insane. Uh So, Yeah,
42:51
I mean it'll be interesting to see how that how that influences them,
42:54
you know, do we see someone like Jacob Cohing go a lot higher than
43:00
is being projected because once you get into day three, Like as good as
43:02
this receiver classes, I think once you get into day three, it starts
43:07
to look like last year's class with the size of some of these receivers.
43:13
Fair point. I'm not gonna add on too much here because we spoke about
43:16
a bunch of the guys that were in this category. For me, my
43:19
favorite Day two wide receivers are Javon Baker and Jermaine Burton. My favorite Day
43:22
three wide receivers one is TODJ. Washington. My other is Marcus Rosemey Jack
43:28
Saint, the wide receiver from Georgia. I just think he's an option at
43:32
his size and frame, pushing six to one two hundred pounds, and how
43:37
he wins, I think he gives you a Day three option that could potentially
43:40
become like an ex boundary type wide receiver. For he was really good at
43:45
off frame catches. I think he's got more suddenness than he gets credit for.
43:47
He's really good at the catchpoint, separating at the catchpoint contested catches.
43:52
Guys are trying to rip through like and punch through the hands, and he's
43:54
still coming down with it. I think given and rightfully so, like Given
43:59
McConkey Bowers and Mims, like some of those high profile pieces on that Georgia
44:05
offense, he's very much kind of lost in that conversation. I like some
44:08
of what he did at the Senior Bowl with seeing him in person as well.
44:10
And he's a guy who doesn't get a ton of targets and so you
44:15
have to, like you almost have to watch every single game that he played
44:17
in to get like a full sample size and share because it's not like,
44:21
oh, I can watch six games. It's like, no, you could
44:22
watch six games and he maybe only had like three targets and three catches in
44:27
each of those, try and get that full perspective. But he's a Day
44:29
three guy that I like with the size and the frame and the ball skills
44:32
and how he wins and separates, and a lot of times he's making contested
44:37
catches, not because he's not separating, but the ball isn't being put in
44:40
like an ideal place, like he's running an inbreaker and he separates and ooh,
44:45
this was one against Missouri, and I think it's either Rakestra or Abram
44:51
Strain who was trying to cover him, and he beats him, separates,
44:53
goes across the middle and is open and the ball needs to be put out
44:57
here and it gets put behind him. He has to jump, reaches back,
45:00
plucks it as Abrams Drain is punching through and trying to rip it,
45:04
and he brings it down, takes it. Like I see those catches from
45:07
him regularly against the variety opponents, and doing it in the SEC gets me
45:10
excited. He's a Day three guy that I really like for a while,
45:15
and I don't see a lot of people talking about as well. So he's
45:16
a guy that I do like he's he's one of the best run blockers in
45:20
this It would be him and him and key On Coleman. I think it
45:23
would be my two top I was gonna say they are the I've got a
45:27
couple for Baker where he's had some nice run blocks, but I literally got
45:30
like montages for Coleman and Rosaby Jackson because of their run blocking. And it's
45:36
not like, oh, like that's a nice block. Like Coleman and Jackson
45:38
put dudes in the dirt like they burry, whether it's a corner, linebackers
45:45
safeties, like they'll dig out of safety and put him in the ground like
45:47
and I think from Coleman you kind of expected more because he is even larger.
45:52
But yeah, Jackson is not just a dog like he's a monster and
45:54
like violent as a run blocker, which as an aspect of his game,
45:59
I really really really like. Now let's shift gears pivot a little bit here.
46:04
A player or players that you think will unexpectedly fall versus their projection.
46:07
It could be somebody that's supposed to go top ten that you think falls into
46:10
the late twenties. It could be a surefire Round one lock that you think
46:15
goes in round two or round three or two to three. Whatever you got
46:17
who is like, it could be one guy, it could be multiple.
46:21
What do you got for this one? All right? So I had I
46:23
had multiple guys. How about I list them and then you can you can
46:28
ask me specifically about anyone that you're interested in. So these are six players
46:32
that I think are going to go lower than consensus has them. Center Jackson,
46:37
Powers Johnson out of Oregon, wide receiver Roman Wilson out of Michigan,
46:44
Washington edge rusher Braylan Trice, Texas tight end Jatavian Sanders, Western Kentucky receiver
46:51
Malachi Corley, and Penn State ed Rusher adsa Isaac Ooh, all right,
46:55
I'm I kind of want to ask you about like all the we don't have
47:00
the time for that. I'm gona stick with too. Let's start with your
47:01
first one. Jackson's power Johnson, because I talked about him last week on
47:05
the show, and yeah, there's been some rumblings in general that he might
47:08
kind of fall and not be kind of I I do like Graham Barton a
47:15
ton and I feel like there's a chance he may have supplanted him as like
47:19
that top interior guy. Although he has played tackled you tackled. He played
47:22
center early in his career too, and kind of projects to that spot.
47:24
But why do you think mister Jackson's Power Johnson, mister j PJ. Why
47:29
do you think he falls? Yeah? So with Jackson Powers Johnson. Honestly,
47:32
the other five guys that I listed I think are gonna fall just based
47:37
on my personal evaluation and that I'm much lower on them that they're than they're
47:40
getting talked about. With Jackson Powers Johnson, like, I have him as
47:44
my thirty fourth ranked player. I you know, don't don't have an issue
47:47
with him in the UH in the late first round. As far as interior
47:53
guys like I have Christian Haynes, Graham Barton, Talise Fuaga, who I
48:00
view as a guard ahead of him, But as far as just a pure
48:04
center, like to me, he's clearly the top guy. It's really just
48:07
like reading the tea leaves, you know, seeing seeing mel Kiper do a
48:14
two round mock draft with Jackson Powers Johnson not in it kind of raises my
48:20
eyebrows. I've also I've heard, like Dane Bruger make comments that there could
48:25
be some injury concerns with him. I think on tape, you know,
48:30
there's I don't see too many red flags with Jackson Powers. Johnson kind of
48:37
kind of like Bo Nicks in the sense that his pass blocking stats are a
48:42
little bit inflated, like he only allowed one pressure last year, but I
48:45
don't feel like he faced too many difficult one on one pass blocking assignments.
48:51
But then you watch him at the Senior Bowl and he was lights out.
48:54
So yeah, I'm like, I really like Jackson Powers Johnson's it's just everything
49:00
that seems to be coming out is that the NFL's not as high on him
49:04
as some other people. Yeah, and that's fair. I and also were
49:07
both like, I watched the tape going into the Senior Bowl and then I
49:09
saw him day one, loved him, watch more tape of him that night,
49:15
loved him more, and I just figured he was gonna be like a
49:17
top twenty five kind of lock. And it's weird to when there's this much
49:22
smoke, there's fire in some regards. So I think that's a fair aspect.
49:28
Malakai Corley talk about him, I and actually Roman Wilson as well,
49:30
because I feel like a lot of people and I'll I want to start with
49:34
Corley because it's hard to get tape on Western Kentucky, and what I have
49:39
seen sometimes I'm like, oh cool, but I haven't loved it. But
49:44
because I haven't had enough sample size, I haven't had too much of a
49:46
thought. Although I do did see him at the Senior Bowl in person,
49:51
and I like some of what I saw from a separation standpoint contest a catch
49:54
standpoint. Separating at the catch point, in addition is separating at the stem
49:59
you didn't get through. They see a lot of the yards after catch stuff
50:01
with him because you, again, you're not playing full contact. But he's
50:05
somebody that I haven't been completely wowed by. And Roman Wilson is an interesting
50:08
one for me because I loved him at the Senior Bowl, but I watched
50:13
the tape and I'm not completely like floored and in love with him like I
50:16
was seeing him at person at the Senior Bowl. So talk about Corley and
50:20
talk about Roman Wilson. So Corley is probably I think, Yeah, I
50:27
mean, these are the two receivers that I'm lowest on relative to consensus.
50:30
I think with Corley, I was expecting at the bare minimum. Rondale Moore
50:37
level yack production and you know, dynamic with the ball in his hands type
50:43
of stuff, and he's powerful after the catch. He's got good contact balance,
50:49
you know, has that running back build, and he will he'll truck
50:52
over truck players, finish through contact, do all that kind of stuff.
50:57
But I don't think he's particularly dynamic after for the catch. And I don't
51:01
know that a five to ten, you know, two hundred and fifteen whatever
51:07
pounds he is receiver with his athletic traits and skills with the ball in his
51:13
hands, I don't know that that warrants feeding him targets in an NFL offense.
51:17
Like if you're an NFL offense and you draft Malachi Corley and you decide
51:22
it's worth it to give him eight screen targets a game, I feel like
51:27
that only speaks to how destitute your receiver position is. Like I just I
51:34
don't really think that he's I think he's a really good college yack threat.
51:37
I don't think that it's anything special in the NFL. And then when you
51:42
get to his route running, he has some decent fluidity to get in and
51:47
out of breaks. Like he's not stiff by any means, but very unpolished
51:52
as a route runner, defaults to physicality at the top of the route instead
51:58
of actually trying to avoid the receiver and break cleanly. He's much more comfortable
52:01
just kind of barreling into contact and you know, hoping that that can can
52:07
knock them off balance and stuff. And then he is one of the worst
52:12
receivers at the top of this class at the catch point. Doesn't look comfortable
52:19
tracking the ball over his shoulder deep down the sideline, not someone that really
52:24
maximizes his size at the catch point and high points the ball. So yeah,
52:30
to me, it's it's like an early fourth round type of grade on
52:34
Malachi Corley. And you know, I obviously I'm biased because it's my opinion,
52:39
but I feel like the NFL would you know, watch the tape and
52:44
and I agree with that, which, like, you know, I would
52:46
say that about any of my opinions. But it's just funny too, because
52:52
like he you get a lot of highlights scouting in draft season, and his
52:57
highlights are so impressive for people that he was one of the ones early on
53:01
where it was like man Malachai Corley, Malachai Corley, Malachai Corley. And
53:07
I feel like As the process has gone through, some of that hype has
53:10
kind of died out a little bit potentially, and the majority of any liking
53:15
that I have for him comes from again seeing him at the Senior Bowl and
53:21
watching him do more real wide receiver stuff, Like I'm like, okay,
53:23
like I was, I didn't have any expectations for him because I hadn't seen
53:28
a bunch of tape on him going into it, but watching him in his
53:31
stem work, watching him separate on the break, I was like, okay,
53:35
Like to your point, the polish wasn't there. I wasn't looking at
53:37
him being like, wow, this is another lad MACONKEI right here. And
53:39
I think he overall is more of like a power and physical guy, which
53:44
doesn't from a play style standpoint, doesn't necessarily translate to precision and technicality.
53:51
But I did see more than I necessarily expected. But yeah, like watching
53:55
this stuff antil Yeah, it's just like, Okay, here's a here's here's
53:59
aubble screen, here's a tunnel screen, here's a bubble screen. Okay,
54:02
cool, We're just gonna try and get the ball to you want to drag
54:05
route and see like what it's just forty five percent of his targets were either
54:10
screens or jet jet sweeps, and then if you if you were to add
54:14
drag routes in there, it would probably be a lot higher. And then
54:16
like you look at his his deep down the field stuff. You know,
54:20
they would run those little curl double moves that he does a good job selling.
54:24
But it's like that's that's kind of fluky stuff. From an evaluation standpoint,
54:30
I don't know, man, There was in the seven or eight games
54:35
I watched, there was like one true vertical route that like looks like NFL
54:40
football against press coverage and he was being covered by a safety. So it's
54:45
like, I don't know, man, I I and it the yak the
54:50
yak archetype of receiver. You know, the reason that everybody comps him to
54:55
Deebo Samuel is because that's the one guy, one similar guy that you can
55:00
comp him to without being disrespectful, because like outside of that, you're you're
55:05
looking at Leaviscus Chnault, Amari Rodgers. You know, it's I don't know.
55:10
I just don't think there's a good track record of this type of receiver
55:14
working out in the NFL. No, that's fair. And then you know
55:17
the one Roman Wilson, who, way, I think is a name that
55:20
has really risen a bunch since the draft process started. How come he's won
55:22
that you think will fall a little bit. Yeah, So Roman Wilson I
55:27
had a firm Day three grade on heading into the Senior Bowl, just purely
55:31
based on the tape, Like I kind of you know, wash them,
55:36
and I'm like, all right, it's a small receiver that's kind of fast,
55:39
not a whole lot of like route running nuance. He's got good hands,
55:44
I'll take that in the super run heavy offense, so he's not yeah,
55:47
like routes and targets and everything. Right. Yeah. And and Jim
55:52
Harbaugh is it Jim or John Jesus Jim Right. I do that all the
55:58
time too. Yeah. He did a terrible job of making it easy for
56:04
us to evaluate anyone besides running backs. Yeah. If you say, if
56:08
you want, like if you want to evaluate Blake Korum, like you really
56:10
only need one game because he's got like seventy carries every game, so you're
56:15
good. So for Roman Wilson, you know, I think that based on
56:21
his his build and kind of the style of player that I was expecting,
56:25
I was expecting him to be a lot more refined of a route runner,
56:30
but I felt like he was pretty inefficient, you know, getting getting out
56:36
of the stem and cutting off breaking cleanly. Kind of similar to Malachi Corley
56:42
in the sense that he he floats into contact, drifts into contact at the
56:47
top of the route more than he probably should, really struggles with press coverage
56:52
when he does face it. But I really like the straight line speed.
56:57
You know, he can pull away from defenders. He's at good hands if
57:01
it's an open target. But when I project his role to the NFL,
57:07
like day one, I think he can win on deep overs if he's not
57:13
getting press coverage, and then what else, you know, so like maybe
57:19
I could see him getting like five hundred and fifty yards in a Shanahan type
57:22
of offense or something, and then if he develops. You know, that's
57:25
the reason that I do have an early fourth round grade on him, is
57:29
that if he can develop some of that route running polish and like what we
57:34
saw at the Senior Bowl where he was pretty much uncoverable, which is why
57:37
I raised him, you know about a round and a half, you know,
57:40
there is it feels like the arrow is kind of pointing up for him,
57:44
and I can see a I can definitely see an avenue for him to
57:49
be, you know, a number two receiver for sure, But I don't
57:54
I don't really know that that the NFL is gonna value smaller receivers that aren't
58:01
already put together as a route as route runners. Yeah, and it I
58:07
came. I didn't watch his tape going into the Senior Bowl, and I'd
58:10
seen him a bunch of on broadcasts, but broadcast doesn't count. But I
58:13
just didn't get to his tape before the Senior Bowl, and I came away
58:15
from the Senior Bowl going, man, I can't wait to watch his tape,
58:20
and then I had to watch so many because majority of his games he's
58:22
got like four less targets, like if that. Like the first game I
58:25
went to was the Purdue game, so that he had like eleven targets and
58:29
like nine catches, And I was like, okay, I just want to
58:30
see some volume right from the get go. And I just didn't see to
58:36
your point, Like I didn't see the clean, precision route running and stem
58:39
work that I saw at the Senior Bowl. And so I was like,
58:43
well, okay, how much of it is the offense. How much is
58:45
it? You know? Again tied to Harball on what they were doing,
58:49
because just what he did at the Senior Bowl, even just from a drill
58:52
work, like his drill work was impressive. The feat the ankle flection.
58:57
Again, everything was clean and precise, it was ninety degree, was tight,
59:00
There wasn't any drifting, There wasn't inefficient, any inefficiency in his movement.
59:04
Everything was clean and tight and sharp. And I just didn't see that.
59:08
And at Michigan, And it's funny you mentioned like the deep overs,
59:12
like that's the majority of what he's running against Purdue, and it's like,
59:15
okay, sometimes they're open and sometimes they're not, and okay, like the
59:17
safety came down and they're running single high because they're worried about Blake Horn and
59:22
he runs across the field and he's open. I just didn't see that level
59:25
of technicality that I thought I was going to get coming out of the Senior
59:29
Bowl. And I liked what I saw at the Senior Bowl. A bunch
59:31
got your point, like he was uncomfortable like Quenya or uncoverable Quenya Mitchell,
59:36
who had a tremendous Senior Bowl as well, he got him several times in
59:39
one on ones and different pieces that that really you know, perked my antennas
59:44
up and put him even more on my radar. But yeah, I just
59:45
didn't see it on the tape like I did in person. And it's super
59:50
frustrating because I still kind of don't know what to do with him for me,
59:53
like for receiver prospect, for every position, there's a few things that
59:59
can't be the first thing on your strength section. For receivers, it's your
1:00:05
first strength. Can't be was uncoverable at the senior ball because like we've seen
1:00:08
and before, Like, if that's the first thing, if that's like your
1:00:13
biggest strength, I'm sorry. It's like, yeah, it's like with an
1:00:16
edge wresher, if the first thing is can shoot into gaps, it's like
1:00:21
okay that you know plays the run real well, or like hustles, like
1:00:24
yeah, offensive lineman like you know, can can get out on the move
1:00:30
as a puller. It's like, Okay, dude, really was uncoverable at
1:00:35
the suitable day. That's wild. Yeah, that's funny. That's fair.
1:00:37
Though. Let's move to the defensive side of the ball, a position of
1:00:43
interest for this Bills team. They bring back Taylor Rap then they sign Mike
1:00:47
Edwards. Mike Ewart is not a one year deal. This is still a
1:00:52
position that is going through a transition period with no more Jordan Poyer, no
1:00:55
more Micah Hyde. This safety class is wonky. I want to get your
1:01:00
thoughts and your takes on it, because I feel like you really could ask
1:01:02
ten people their thoughts on the safety class and you could get ten different top
1:01:07
fives, ten different safety ones. There's a lot of risers and fallers to
1:01:10
combine. Heavily affected some guys. So who are Let's start with who your
1:01:15
top five safeties are right now? So I have Cooper Degene as a safety.
1:01:23
Oh okay, so he would be my He would be my number one
1:01:28
safety in this class. You know, I think there's certain schemes that he
1:01:32
could fit in at corner. I have him a forty second. Overall,
1:01:39
I think that you know, when you look at his athletic traits there I
1:01:45
would expect him to have a high RAS score. I think he's got good
1:01:49
straight line speed when it comes to you know, downhill, breaking on a
1:01:52
hitch, or returning a punt. But the biggest issue I saw was some
1:01:58
hip tightness when he's trying to turn and accelerate, you know, starting facing
1:02:01
the receiver and then also you know, being able to sync with comebacks.
1:02:07
I thought was an issue for him. Didn't seem that comfortable playing the ball
1:02:10
with his back to the quarterback. And I played a lot of press,
1:02:15
a lot more press coverage over the second half of the season, but didn't
1:02:19
look that comfortable in it. I just think it's a lot more, a
1:02:22
lot cleaner fit moving him to safety. So I've got him at safety one,
1:02:28
and then I'll just run through the rest of my top five. Jaden
1:02:30
Hicks at safety two, Tyler Tyler Numan at three, I've got Javon Bullard
1:02:37
at four, and Cole Bishop out of Utah at five. Sell me on
1:02:43
Jaden Hicks. So if you ignoring Cooper Degene, you know, out of
1:02:50
all of the traditional safeties in this class, he's the one that has the
1:02:54
prototypical size and athletic traits. While Tyler Newban is big, but he's slow.
1:03:02
Javon Bullard is fast and explosive, but he's small. Cole Bishop actually
1:03:08
tested a lot faster than I expected him to that that moved him up a
1:03:14
couple spots for me, but he's got really short arms. He's tall and
1:03:19
kind of big. But you know, Jayden Hicks is like the one prototype
1:03:22
safety. He's got outstanding ball skills. He's a very aggressive run defender,
1:03:29
I think too aggressive at times when it comes to some pretty bad tackling angles.
1:03:35
You know, he he has man coverage versatility, he can stick with
1:03:38
slot fades, he has I think linebacker block shedding skills. He's got closing
1:03:45
burst, special teams experience. You see him blocking field goals. I just
1:03:51
think he's a very well rounded safety. Biggest issue is with him is the
1:03:57
tackling, which is a like writing writing up all these safeties. It's like
1:04:03
probably eighty percent of them. I say, I've got to just come up
1:04:06
with different ways of saying that they're bad tacklers essentially. But yeah, so
1:04:12
that's that's my pitch, my elevator pitch for Jayden Hicks. He is.
1:04:16
He's one who he had a great deep rep where I think he takes it
1:04:23
away from Jalen Polk in the Washington State Washington game. I think you're playing
1:04:27
quarters, he picks a pole, takes him downfield, and from what I
1:04:30
saw from NBA, I always just see him more in the box and more
1:04:33
of like a box safety, but he's so physical, he's such an enforcer.
1:04:36
He's got some reps where he's just absolutely reckon dudes. And I haven't
1:04:42
finalized my safety like rankings, and so I wanted to get your take because
1:04:45
I'm literally like all over the place when it comes to like who who I'm
1:04:49
putting in like and actually before I even say, let me get to you
1:04:54
know, for your favorite safeties in this class. Is it one of those
1:04:57
guys in the top five. Is it somebody else that you were gravitate towards,
1:05:00
Cause someone like my favorite safety in this class is not one of my
1:05:03
top five and it's somebody more like a Day three guy. So I wanted
1:05:06
to get like your thought in that as well. Yeah, so just for
1:05:11
perspective on how I have this, this class kind of sortid Like I don't
1:05:15
have any safety in my top forty, but then between forty four and one
1:05:21
hundred, I've got nine safeties, So it's wow, there's like nothing at
1:05:25
the top, but then once you get into the third to late fourth round,
1:05:30
I think there's a ton of guys. I really like Keaton Ola Dappo,
1:05:34
I really like Malik Mustafa out of Wake Forest. But I think my
1:05:39
guy at safety would have to be Tike Smith out of Georgia. Oh kind
1:05:45
of, you know, I've got him as a safety. He played more
1:05:47
of a slot corner role in Georgie's like that Apex, like big name for
1:05:53
Georgia. Yeah, kind of like the Brian Branch type of role. He
1:05:57
is the most violent bloshedter of any defensive back in this class besides Jarvis Brownlee
1:06:04
Junior out of Louisville. Tyke Smith just uproots and demolishes tight ends receivers like
1:06:14
there's there's so many reps where he's you know, blowing guys five yards backwards.
1:06:19
It's it's insane. So I think what he can give you as a
1:06:24
run defender protecting against screen passes is extremely valuable in today's NFL. But he
1:06:30
also has some really good man coverage traits. He's got fluid mirror skills.
1:06:35
He does a good job of, you know, as much as you can
1:06:40
tell from the Grainy All twenty two. I feel like he has good eye
1:06:44
to discipline as far as reading the receiver's hips and and feeling out route breaks.
1:06:49
And yeah, I mean I think that that Tyke Smith is someone that
1:06:55
has role versatility where he can come down in the slot. He could be
1:07:00
a quarter safety. Probably not, you know, doesn't have elite range as
1:07:06
being like a single high guy. But he's someone that I'm a big fan
1:07:12
of in this class. And don't see I'm getting talked about that often.
1:07:15
I I wanted to get your thoughts on like some of his range, don't
1:07:20
be kind answered it for me already. He's one that I find really intriguing
1:07:26
because of kind of more of the projection of him, like the heavy majority
1:07:30
of his career snaps have come at like that apex slot type of role.
1:07:34
And I think he's got he's got more reps at outside corner and defensive line,
1:07:42
like just because you know he's following somebody out man covered or he's blitzing
1:07:44
off the line, He's got more reps at either of those than he does
1:07:46
as like an actual deep safety. And but again some of that is Okay,
1:07:49
You've got Javon Bouller, You've got Malachai Starks, those are gonna be
1:07:54
like your deep safeties. And then tay Kei is playing this quasi linebacker.
1:07:57
But yeah, like just how he functions on the box. The thing I
1:08:00
keep saying about him is I wished he was like twenty five pounds heavier and
1:08:04
can just straight up be a linebacker because I love how he plays like anywhere
1:08:10
sideline to sideline, in and around the box. And the projection for him
1:08:14
I find really interesting because yeah, like it's again it's it's it's projection,
1:08:18
which every person in this draft is projection. There's no guarantees for anyone,
1:08:23
but yeah, I'm very interested to see like where he goes and what becomes
1:08:27
of him because of not having a ton of snaps as like it as a
1:08:30
single high safety or even like a two high safety type look because of that
1:08:33
role that he played more at Georgia. That's a really interesting one. His
1:08:39
name's been creeping up a little bit in some bill circle, so I like
1:08:41
that. My favorite safety is in this class. You mentioned one, Malik
1:08:45
Mustafa. Dude is just a freight train coming downhill and fitting the run at
1:08:53
the line of scrimmage, fitting the run from depth, like just he's lighting
1:08:59
everybody up. As a matter who you are or where he's coming from,
1:09:01
you are getting rocked. And I think his range is better than he gets
1:09:04
credit for he's got a He's got several reps against Clemson, especially against Florida
1:09:10
State, where he's playing a post safety and he's getting to the sideline.
1:09:13
He's there to make plays. He's got a real nice play in a deep
1:09:15
post where they're running over in front of him and he's honoring it and then
1:09:19
the post comes behind him. Travis opens up and chucks it downfield, and
1:09:24
he opens and takes off and makes a dive in swat like leaning back down
1:09:28
field. He has a couple of really great hits in that game too,
1:09:30
Like he's just so fast and violent and I like his game and I think
1:09:35
it'll translate well. I also think he's a good special teamer, probably my
1:09:40
favorite favorite safety in this class. And this one's massive projection and I don't
1:09:43
know what he's gonna because of his size. I love Jalen Simpson out of
1:09:46
Auburn, Like he had a really good Senior Bowl week. But then I
1:09:49
go to the tape and he's matching and closing down on brock Bowers and punching
1:09:55
through. He's breaking up plays on the leak Neighbors. A lot of that
1:09:58
comes from his history as playing in a corner. You know, he was
1:10:00
cornered the first three years at Auburn, then was a safety this year.
1:10:04
But from a coverage standpoint, you can play spot drop he can match.
1:10:09
His reading and processing of route distributions is so well, like he knows it's
1:10:14
either he's reading it so well on the fly and processing it or his film
1:10:18
study habits are so great because he's beaten guys to the spot and to the
1:10:21
point regularly in that Auburn defense. One year of starting experience at safety at
1:10:27
four interceptions this past year, he's mossing I forget who against Georgia early in
1:10:32
that game against Georgia before he makes that play on Boers later. But my
1:10:35
worry with him is one year of starting experience of safety and he's under one
1:10:40
hundred and eighty pounds, Like, I like, how much can he put
1:10:44
on that frame? Can he get to one eighty five? Can he kind
1:10:46
of push ninety or one ninety? Also within that not a ton of experience
1:10:51
in terms of fitting the run in terms of what they asked him to do,
1:10:55
Like, so he's got to still work on that aspect, like not
1:10:58
only in terms of angles to the foot ball and fitting it and being sound,
1:11:01
but then being able to make the play when you get there, because
1:11:03
if you're playing at one hundred and eighty pounds, that's going to be a
1:11:06
tough sell against like a lot of NFL running backs, unless you're playing against
1:11:10
like James Cook every week potentially. But from a coverage standpoint, there's so
1:11:14
much I love about him. I have, you know, a Day three
1:11:15
great on him. I just wonder, like how I don't even know if
1:11:20
he can be anything in the NFL because I don't know if that size plays.
1:11:23
But I just love the coverage tape so much. Oh you're on mute,
1:11:31
You're on mute. It happens to me all the time. Not bad.
1:11:35
Yeah, the Georgia game I think might be one of the best individual
1:11:39
performances from any safety in this class. Just and like that was the first
1:11:44
one that I watched, so kind of started off really high on him,
1:11:47
and then every other game I sort of come back down to earth. Not
1:11:50
that this tape's bad, it's just you see him bounce off of tackles some
1:11:56
when he comes down to fit the run, and it's like, yeah,
1:12:00
man, one hundred and seventy nine pounds, that's point fit point fourth percentile.
1:12:05
It's not good. It's not good. So yeah, man, I
1:12:12
don't I don't know. I've got a late fifth on fifth round great on
1:12:15
him. So he's safety thirteen for me. One of those one of those
1:12:21
where it's like if I'm a GM, I might just let someone else see
1:12:27
what happens with Jalen Simpson. I hope, like I like the idea to
1:12:31
fit with the bills because you've got Edwards and Rap this year, right,
1:12:34
So take him see how much you can fatten him up and see what you
1:12:39
could do. He's got almost he's got thirty two and three eighths inch arms,
1:12:45
so theoretically like a frame to maybe get up to. See that's it,
1:12:51
like get him up to and it's like, like, what can you
1:12:55
get him to, like get him into a third percentile weight? Yeah?
1:12:59
Right, cand you just get him on the scale. Can you just get
1:13:00
him like track on the board in some way, shape or form, Like
1:13:04
he's just an outlier from yeah that physical standpoint and yeah, which is a
1:13:09
huge detractor. But I just love his coverage tape so much. I want
1:13:12
him to go somewhere where he has a chance to start next year the season
1:13:15
after. Yeah, just get him a year to fatten him up, continue
1:13:18
to work on. Like what does encourage me though, is like his angles
1:13:24
to the ball from only being in safety at a safety in one year,
1:13:28
I was just really impressed, Like they both encoverage and even coming forward,
1:13:32
his routes and angles to the ball were efficient. But then yeah, if
1:13:35
he's playing the run, it's like, yeah, he's getting there, but
1:13:39
he not really finishing all the time because he's one hundred and seventy eight pounds
1:13:42
and that ain't necessarily gonna fly. Last segment here and then we'll get you
1:13:45
on your way Day two and early Day three. Defensive tackles and edges.
1:13:50
This is a position of need for the Buffalo Bills. Could be somewhere that
1:13:54
they go in the first round. If I doubt Byron Murphy's gonna fall,
1:13:58
but maybe if Johnny Newton falls, could be an option there at twenty eight.
1:14:01
A lot of Bills fans love Braiden Fisk. You get some love for
1:14:03
Michael Hall, some love for Dwayne Carter, Mason Smith from LSU, A
1:14:08
lot of names that are kind of circulating. A defensive tackle and then edges
1:14:12
are kind of all over the place, like and take out the big three
1:14:15
of Turner and Verse and lat too, and you kind of get like pick
1:14:19
them from any fantas, ten fans who they like it edge, You'll get
1:14:21
ten different answers. Who are some guys for you? You know, We'll
1:14:25
start with defensive tackle. Who are some guys you like? On day two
1:14:27
and early day three on the interior there. So for defensive tackle, are
1:14:30
you looking more like a penetrating three tech or a nose tackle? Let's do
1:14:35
penetrating three tech because I think with Daikwon Jones and then signing Austin Johnson,
1:14:42
they're good there at the one tech and the nose. They really need somebody
1:14:45
behind Ed Oliver. So you're looking for that three tech. Yeah, So
1:14:48
for the three techs, you know, my half serious answer would be anyone
1:14:56
but Braiden Fisk. Okay, yeah, not not a big Bradin Fisk man.
1:15:00
I'll I'll put that out there. If I had to pick like one
1:15:04
of those types of players, I would go Michael Hall junior, Mackai Wingo
1:15:10
or Ruke Roro. Okay, I'm a huge Michael Hall guy. Like just
1:15:15
the explosion you see on tape, like he's he's jumping gaps because of his
1:15:20
lateral explosion and agility. Like his swim move is one of the quickest and
1:15:25
it's violent. Like everything he does is just quick and fast and violent,
1:15:30
and I wonder how much he holds up. Initially in the season, he
1:15:32
was listed at like two hundred and eighty pounds. He weighed in at two
1:15:35
ninety at the combine. I think it is pro day he weighed at two
1:15:38
ninety nine. I have to go back and check what he weighed in at
1:15:41
the Senior Bowl because I have those numbers, but I didn't write it down.
1:15:43
He's somebody who I'm a big fan of it. I just think from
1:15:45
a rotational aspect, you want to give that Oliver a break, or really
1:15:48
anybody if you're looking for a backup, like rotational three tech, just let
1:15:54
him go in for like seven to eight snaps and play one hundred miles an
1:15:58
hour one hundred percent of the time and pen straight and attack and go forward,
1:16:00
and you got yourself cooking something right there. Talk a little bit about
1:16:04
Bradon Fisk because he's a very popular name for Bills fans, but for you
1:16:09
not so much. Yeah. So he's a very high effort, just like
1:16:14
relentless motor type of player. He's got the elite athletic testing. I always
1:16:21
you know with these defensive linemen that have you know, tenth percentile weight,
1:16:30
twentieth percentile weight and then they're like eightieth percentile and all the movement drills.
1:16:33
It's like, you know, it's not that he's isn't a great athlete,
1:16:38
but it should be expected. You know that they're they're going to test really
1:16:42
well. Now still you know, for two hundred and ninety two pounds,
1:16:45
great testing, and like you see the movement skills on tape with his ability
1:16:49
to shoot gaps and you know, slip around unblocked opportunities. But it's kind
1:16:57
of like what I was saying with before with an edge rusher, where it's
1:17:00
like the main thing that you do can't be shoot gaps because in the NFL,
1:17:04
teams are going to block you. And when Bradon Fisk gets blocked,
1:17:09
the results are a lot worse. He kind of gets transported down the field
1:17:15
in the run game, like if especially if it's a double team, but
1:17:17
you know, even single blocks, he will just get moved. Like there.
1:17:23
He's got so many tackles on tape where it's a bad REP because he
1:17:28
made the tackle, but it was after he got moved back eight yards and
1:17:32
then he like finally disengages and makes the tackle. I think the pass rushing
1:17:38
skill set, you know, he's quick with his hands, but I don't
1:17:42
really see any advanced plan as a pass rusher, and I don't think he's
1:17:47
very effective at freeing himself from contact. A two hand punch can pretty much
1:17:53
end his REP. Most of his production, like I said, was unblocked
1:17:59
on stuff or just pursuit type of sacks. Like everyone, if you criticize
1:18:03
Braden Fisk, there's it's like there's a bat signal that goes goes up,
1:18:08
and everybody tells you to watch the Louisville game, and it's like, Okay,
1:18:11
he got three sacks or whatever off of stunts. He made like a
1:18:15
really nice tackle for loss early in the game. You know, had a
1:18:17
couple of nice plays against the run in that game. But that's like kind
1:18:20
of an I felt like from an evaluation standpoint, there's not a whole lot
1:18:26
there that it really projects for me. So I see him as like a
1:18:30
Carl Klug type that can maybe be a third defensive lineman just come in and
1:18:39
scream off the line of scrimmage like a maniac and you know, just like
1:18:43
Rex stuff in the backfield. But he's not someone that is gonna, you
1:18:47
know, hold up at the point of attack and be a full time player
1:18:51
in my opinion, which I think to me that that takes you off the
1:18:56
table as a top three round type of pick. Mm. I think it's
1:19:00
fad. That's fair if that's like what your evaluation piece is. And my
1:19:03
favorite aspect for him is his get off, like he's got such quickness.
1:19:08
But to your point, like, if he's not winning with that, how
1:19:12
else is he winning consistently? And I love to get off. But again,
1:19:16
some of the pieces, and you mentioned some of the metrics. So
1:19:19
his wingspan puts him in the fifth percentile and his arm length of thirty one
1:19:27
inches, which is my biggest concern with him, he's third percentile with arm
1:19:30
length, and you see it hurt him regularly, Like he's not gonna be
1:19:33
winning first touch guys even on the interior, like where guys have shorter arms
1:19:39
than tackles, like centers and guards, they're gonna win first touch on him
1:19:43
because their arms are gonna be longer than his. So he almost has to
1:19:45
win with that get off, or he has to win with that motor,
1:19:47
or he has to win every rep with leverage because he dudes are gonna get
1:19:53
their hands on him first. And then your point like, even if he
1:19:55
get they don't what kind of moves or arsenal does he have? So I
1:20:00
think that's very fair. I think it's very fair aspect, let's go to
1:20:01
edges and then we'll get you out of here. Favorite day two in early
1:20:04
day three guys at the edge spot. So I would say for a firm
1:20:11
Day two guy, I would say Marshawn Neeland, and then as more of
1:20:15
an early day three guy, I think I think this is a really weak
1:20:19
edge class, to be honest, especially when you get outside of the top
1:20:25
three. But I would go the one guy that I really like on early
1:20:30
day three is Mo Kamara out of Colorado State. Nice. What about Darius
1:20:35
Robinson? You putting him a defensive tack or you putting hm at edge?
1:20:39
Yeah? I so I like Darius Robinson a lot. He's he's my edge
1:20:43
four. I don't I don't see him as like a three tech type of
1:20:47
player as far as what he does on third down, you know, he
1:20:51
could. He you can line up anyone on the inside if you know it's
1:20:56
a passing, if you know they're going to pass. But yeah, I
1:20:59
think he's he's definitely like a five technique defensive end type of player. I
1:21:05
think that he's he's a really tough evaluation because you know, he doesn't he
1:21:13
doesn't really have the explosiveness to I think, consistently threaten the corner. But
1:21:20
he's I think I don't think people give him enough credit for how good he
1:21:25
is with his hands, just because he this is his first year playing edge,
1:21:28
people kind of throw him into this bucket of like project type of player.
1:21:31
But he really started to see his pass rushing skill set come together and
1:21:38
diversify as the season progressed. You watched some early games, he's just basically
1:21:43
spamming the swim pull through type of move. But like I would for anybody
1:21:50
you know, watching tape at home, I would recommend the Ohio State game
1:21:54
is where you get like a really good sense of how many different ways he
1:21:58
can win. He's using fourklive double swipe cross chop. Really impressed with his
1:22:03
ability at his height to get low in his bullrush and really leverage people backwards,
1:22:12
so I just think, you know, and then he's you know,
1:22:14
he's gonna be a good run defender. Really, my biggest issue with him
1:22:19
at edge rusher is that if he's being forced to cover a lot of space,
1:22:25
like from the hash to the sideline, he can do some short area
1:22:28
movement stuff against reid options, but he doesn't really have the range to cover
1:22:32
a mobile quarterback out to the sideline and you'll see him lose the edge sometimes.
1:22:36
So that's probably my biggest negative for him. Yeah, I have concerns
1:22:41
about like the overall speed and range piece to his game and change direction stuff
1:22:45
as well, But I like that you have him an edge four. I
1:22:48
like him, and I'm keeping him at edge. I just think with the
1:22:51
power, the arm length, a compression style power rusher who has a legitibility
1:22:59
to like collapse the width of the pocket with that arm length and with that
1:23:02
power, and and I loved your analysis something like watching him progress through the
1:23:06
year, like everything early on is just either long arm or push pull,
1:23:12
and the push pull works to his credit, like he's winning first touch.
1:23:15
He extends violently, sheds you and then he gets through and I think it's
1:23:21
the LSU game maybe the Florida game. No, I think it's lsu.
1:23:26
He pulls a cross chop and turns the corner and flattens, and I was
1:23:30
like oh, And then the more I watched him like okay, and I
1:23:34
just like him because from a baseline standpoint, you're getting a guy who minimum
1:23:41
right now, power rusher, compression, and exactly your point. He's gonna
1:23:45
play the run, and he's gonna do it well. He knows how to
1:23:46
leverage gaps, he knows how to control his space. He can win and
1:23:49
control his gap and penetrate with it, or he can two gap for you.
1:23:54
I also think playing in that Missouri defense, being in that like stack
1:23:57
and that three three five type a lot front like isn't really helping him where
1:24:01
he's playing as a four I or sometimes he's kicking inside. I think if
1:24:04
you give him to your point more reps outside, you put him in a
1:24:08
five and allow him to just go on an angle and crush tackles. If
1:24:13
you're trying to block him with the tight end, it's not gonna work because
1:24:15
he's gonna beat any tight end. Then he comes across because of how violent
1:24:18
and big that he is, he crushes running backs to try to block him,
1:24:21
but again there are there is like that range space type of aspect,
1:24:26
like you don't want to do a ton of simulateds with him and drop him
1:24:29
into coverage. He's got a good surf technique as far as his eyes,
1:24:31
but then if the QB keeps it, it's gonna be hard for him to
1:24:35
really get that angle, and there's a chance they're gonna be able to turn
1:24:38
the corner on him because again the speed, range, and lack a change
1:24:41
of direction. The quarterback should always keep it. I was gonna see if
1:24:45
you see that, I don't care what he does. Even if he doesn't
1:24:49
move, keep it and just run because you could probably get the corner on
1:24:54
him. But I'm in I'm in agreeing with you on a lot of pieces
1:24:57
for him. I apologize because we went over the time, but no proverstation
1:25:00
got deep and into the weeds. You were tremendous. I'm gonna keep going
1:25:03
on, but we'll let you go and enjoy the rest of your Tuesday night.
1:25:08
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1:25:36
crushed it as I knew you would and hope you would enjoy the rest of
1:25:39
your Tuesday. I appreciate you and godspeed. Yeah, man, thanks for
1:25:42
having me. Of course, there great guest, mister James Foster getting into
1:25:48
the weeds. I honestly wanted to dive into more, but I didn't want
1:25:51
to keep him too long more than I already did. I saw something that
1:25:56
came into the chat earlier, and then I saw something briefly when I was
1:26:00
going through I had to pull something from my notes for Twitter. What did
1:26:03
Stefan Diggs say. Did Stefan Diggs say something that was like it was it?
1:26:08
Is it crypto Stefan Diggs or cryptic Stefan Diggs or did he say something
1:26:12
real? Anybody that's watching the line want to throw it up into the chat,
1:26:15
feel free too? And then I want to continue to go on with
1:26:17
some pieces in this episode, while somebody potentially throws that into the chat or
1:26:24
questions, thoughts, comments, concerns on anything or any anything and everything having
1:26:28
to do with the Bill's draft board, prospects. You like position groupings,
1:26:30
you want to talk about, questions for me, questions you want to throw
1:26:33
out into the ether, whatever you folks got, feel free to throw it
1:26:36
up into the chat. We'll kind of go through the live chat and talk
1:26:42
about some stuff as we go home on this episode, already saying James was
1:26:45
great. Yeah, James is awesome. Just nothing, there's no fluff with
1:26:49
anything James does. It's straight into the point. Like I like this guy
1:26:53
because of this. I don't like this guy because of this. He backs
1:26:55
it all up with film and he shows his work, you know, rightly
1:26:59
or wrongly. Yeah, we started interacting, I think like two years ago
1:27:03
and like the draft season, maybe like February March. He was posting a
1:27:06
bunch of stuff. I was posting a bunch of stuff. We just started
1:27:09
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see what this does. Hold on, I gotta see what this what this
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digs tweet says, what does Stefan Diggs say okay. So RG three said,
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is Stefan Digg's essential to Josh Allen's success? Oh? And then somebody
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commented and said, does Josh benefit from having a top tier receiver? Yes?
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Is he essential to his success? No? And then Diggs commented,
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you sure, oh, man, man, oh man, I don't even
1:28:40
interesting. Let's go to this question here from the chat. Say the Bills
1:28:45
draft a wide receiver in round one, which wide receivers would have to be
1:28:47
available in round two for you to be okay with a double dip Ooh,
1:28:53
this is a really good question. If they go wide receiver in round one,
1:29:00
I don't know if I want to go wide receiver round two at all.
1:29:01
It would have to be like some combination of Okay, they went with
1:29:09
a d Mitchell in round one, and then Jermaine Burton would have to be
1:29:15
there at sixty or Lad McConkie would have to be there at sixty. I
1:29:18
want to say Javon Baker, but I feel like there might be some positional
1:29:21
redundancy there. But even that, I like Baker so much, I don't
1:29:26
really care. It would have to be like Baker or Burton or McConkie.
1:29:31
There's a lot of Round two receivers that I like, But in terms of
1:29:34
a double dip, it's got to be somebody that the fit works in addition
1:29:39
to be a good player, in addition to being a good player, because
1:29:41
that means you are foregoing defensive tackle, edge, safety, interior, offensive
1:29:47
line, like a multitude of other spots potentially just because you are hitting on
1:29:53
that spot. Yet it would have to be yeah, or maybe like I
1:29:58
don't think he's going to fall, but like, it would have to be
1:30:00
like Exavier, like Gat, like somebody who I really like just fell for
1:30:04
some reason, like Lad McConkie fell to sixty, Javon Baker, Xavier le
1:30:10
Gat fell or Ricky Piersoll fell the sixty. It would have to be somebody
1:30:13
that I think like is a top tier type of dude. Even again,
1:30:16
if there is positional redundancy, fine, if the value is there or a
1:30:20
player is great, I don't care. But yeah, it would have to
1:30:25
be somebody of like a really high tier. And you found up saying being
1:30:29
has double dip. It's not probable but not impossible. No, absolutely not
1:30:31
like being goes by best player available in value and if that's what it is.
1:30:36
It's what it is. I maybe I have a little bit of PTSD
1:30:39
because that last double dip, you know, really was Rousseau and Basham and
1:30:44
I was not a fan of that Bashm pick whatsoever. But that doesn't mean
1:30:47
this double dip wouldn't work out. And there are so many good receivers I
1:30:50
think you could hit onto potentially, and then but then it just gets worrisome
1:30:57
because you're well. And then Spinder said what I was exactly gonna say,
1:31:01
you're double dip in, you know, and then you don't have that third
1:31:04
round pick. So you're going on two receivers in the first sixty, you
1:31:08
know, pick twenty eight and pick sixty and then you don't have another pick
1:31:12
until one twenty eight. That's a lot of stuff that could help your team
1:31:15
kind of go in by the wayside. So that double that's why for me,
1:31:18
like, if it's a double dip, it's got to be something extremely
1:31:21
strong where somebody awesome fell like you went with like you got Brian Thomas in
1:31:28
the first round, or you got ad Mitchell and then lad mccauckey fell,
1:31:31
or Jermaine Burton is there and he's checked out everything from an off the field
1:31:35
perspective, or Javon Baker is there or yeah, it would have to be
1:31:39
somebody who like really really really moves the needle for me personally in order to
1:31:44
double dip at that wide receiver spot, especially too, because I think if
1:31:47
you wanted a double dip at wide receiver, you could take one in round
1:31:51
one and then still get a fun wide receiver on day three. You could
1:31:56
get Taj Washington or even Malik Washington or Marcus Rosemey Jack Saint like there are
1:32:01
other guys, or Anthony Gold like James mentioned, like, I think you
1:32:04
could double dip early and then also on day three and still get a really
1:32:10
fun combo without having to double dip early. But if you do double dip
1:32:13
in round one and round two I picked sixty, then it's just got to
1:32:16
be somebody really high value, like somebody who we didn't think was gonna fall
1:32:19
fell, kind of like o Cyrus Torrance last year. I don't think anybody
1:32:23
thought he was going to be on the board when the Bills were picking in
1:32:25
the second round. He was, so they took him. So it would
1:32:27
have to be somebody that's still sitting there that okay, cool. What else
1:32:34
do we have? Bill, Let's go on order here. Bill says,
1:32:38
is there a number of first round grades you have given? Fifteen, twenty
1:32:42
twenty five plus? Hopefully I'm not done with my board. Usually most years
1:32:47
you have about sixteen to twenty first round grades. I will be falling into
1:32:53
that range. Some things that I'm solidified on. I've got three wide receivers
1:32:59
with the first round grade. It's only the big three, Marvin Harrison Junior
1:33:01
and Mylik neighbors, Roma Dunza. I have a ton of wide receivers with
1:33:04
a round two grade, which is why I'd be fine taking a lot of
1:33:08
guys at twenty eight. Well, a certain mind guys at twenty eight.
1:33:10
I've only got two defensive tackles with the first round grade. That's Byron Murphy
1:33:15
and Johnny Newton. I've only got three edges with the first round grade,
1:33:19
that is Dallas Turner, Jared First, and lie To lat too. I
1:33:24
struggle with a lot too, though, because there's certain aspects of his game
1:33:27
that I don't like. The biggest thing in the first round that I have
1:33:31
a bunch of first round grades on is offensive lineman, Like there are a
1:33:33
ton who I just really really really like in this first round in some of
1:33:38
the qbs. But I'm not done with my big board. I was sick
1:33:41
for like a week and knocked me back in terms of my progression. What
1:33:45
I'm doing. I'm finishing up corners now and then circling back on some offensive
1:33:49
line stuff and then once I have that, it'll be there. But just
1:33:53
on average usually have about sixteen to twenty first round grades. I will be
1:33:58
right in that range. Spin said, just did a mock draft, got
1:34:00
Marvin Harrison, Junior, John Newton, Tyler Dubin and break the trice who
1:34:04
needs draft picks next year? That's fair, that's fair, That's fair.
1:34:13
Sesspinar saying, what does your board look like at twenty eight where you would
1:34:17
want to trade down? Oh, that's a good question. It would have
1:34:20
to be. It depends on the trade down, right, Like if I
1:34:24
can trade down to thirty or thirty one or thirty two. Because I'm sitting
1:34:32
there at twenty eight and Ady Mitchell is there, and Johnny Newton is there,
1:34:38
and Jackson Powers Johnson is there, and I feel like I can grab
1:34:42
one of these guys in the early thirties and still pick up a third round
1:34:45
pick. Cool. The one that the option that I really like is trading
1:34:51
to more like the mid thirties, Like you get picked thirty five or thirty
1:34:55
six or thirty seven and then get you know, a third round pick with
1:34:58
it in the nineties something like that. Right, I really really really want
1:35:00
a third round pick attached to it. But in order to do that,
1:35:02
Yeah, one of those guys had like, there's got to be no Mitchell,
1:35:05
there's got to be no Newton, there's got to be no Jackson,
1:35:09
Powers Johnson, there's no Graham Barton. I could even be tempted to take
1:35:15
Xavier and get right there at pick twenty eight. I made the case for
1:35:17
it last week, like there's got to be a significant amount of dudes that
1:35:21
are gone from that spot. I also think there's some really good corners that
1:35:27
I would potentially take at twenty eight, even though corner isn't the biggest need,
1:35:31
and we talked about it a bit on last week's show. I think
1:35:33
with how many offensive linemen are going to go in the first twenty eight or
1:35:36
first twenty seven picks, how many quarterbacks are going to go? The three
1:35:42
edges Quinnion Mitchell at corner brock Bauers at tight end, like the amount of
1:35:47
the known quantities I think that are going to go in the first twenty eight
1:35:51
someone of or first twenty seven, I should say, someone of quality is
1:35:55
going to fall to pick twenty eight, which could swing the pendulum either way
1:35:59
in the train down aspect, right where there's a handful of guys that you
1:36:02
really like, and so you can sit there and go, you know what,
1:36:05
let's trade back to the mid thirties because one of these guys that we
1:36:10
really like is still probably going to be there, and we can get one
1:36:12
of them and still pocket a third round pick out of it potentially, or
1:36:15
more ammunition cool or the other side of that point in the side of the
1:36:18
argument is there's a ton of really good guys available at twenty eight right now,
1:36:24
Let's get the top one that we want and so on and so forth,
1:36:27
and not have to worry about are they going to be there? Who's
1:36:30
still going to be there at that aspect, So for me, in order
1:36:32
to trade down where I want to trade down, it either means all the
1:36:36
players I was really interested in are gone or there's just so many available that
1:36:44
you could trade into the mid thirties and still grab one of these guys that
1:36:46
are quality and have a similar grade and then pocket a third round pick.
1:36:50
So it either has to it's either got to be nothing's there or everything is
1:36:54
there. John Cavin sand to McDermott say he has seven wide receivers as the
1:37:01
first round. I don't know. I didn't hear that he may have,
1:37:05
but yeah, I have not heard that, and yes it does. See.
1:37:10
I do think someone will slip the twenty eight. I think there's a
1:37:14
chance that Johnny Newton could fall to twenty eight, and if that happens,
1:37:16
I really like it. Again, there's options at corner, Like if Terry
1:37:19
on Arnold is there, I like it at twenty eight. If kool Aid
1:37:23
McKinstry is there, I like it at twenty eight. Nate Wiggans is small,
1:37:26
but the speed in the physicality is enticing, like Johnny Newton, Ady
1:37:31
Mitchell, Xavier Leaguette, Like, there are options at that spot there at
1:37:35
twenty eight that they either all have to be gone or they're all there,
1:37:41
to the point where I'm like, I don't care which one of these guys
1:37:45
we take because there's so many options, and if we trade back to pick
1:37:48
thirty five based on how we're I'm just making up pick thirty five. But
1:37:53
if we go to pick thirty five based on how the board looks, we
1:37:55
can still get one of these guys. Cool, let's trade back and go
1:37:58
with it. But I do think someone will slip. I don't know how
1:38:01
many. I just I know there's gonna be real quality there at twenty eight.
1:38:05
Either at it's either going to be Johnny Newton. I don't want to
1:38:08
say defensive tackle because I specifically mean and Johnny Newton. It's either going to
1:38:11
be Johnny Newton, someone on the interior offensive line or one of the corners,
1:38:16
or wide receiver. Wide receiver, I think is the really like not
1:38:19
tricky one. But I'm interested to see how the wide receivers fall after the
1:38:23
big three. You know, who's the fourth wide receiver off the board?
1:38:27
Is it Brian Thomas? Is it a d Mitchell? Is it Xavier Worthy?
1:38:32
How do NFL teams value Keon Coleman versus how a lot of people on
1:38:36
the outside in the media are valuing Keon Coleman. How many receivers go in
1:38:40
the first twenty seven right, do the Bills have the opportunity to take the
1:38:43
fourth wide receiver off the board at twenty eight, or are they looking at
1:38:47
the sixth or seventh or fifth or eighth wide receiver off the board. That's
1:38:51
that's a huge piece, right. Do all four quarterbacks go like we anticipate?
1:38:56
Is it Caleb Williams and Drake May and Jayden Daniels and J J.
1:39:00
McCarthy. Does a fifth potentially slip in there? Does a team want to
1:39:02
trade up to twenty eight to get that fifth quarterback off the board? Who's
1:39:06
still available? So on and so forth? Like, there's so many unknowns
1:39:10
from that perspective, But I again, I do think some quality of corner
1:39:15
Johnny Newton wide receiver or interior offensive lineman will be there at pick twenty eight.
1:39:20
And if there's enough of that quality that's still there, cool, why
1:39:26
not trade back to the thirties. Again, that's an ideal situation for me.
1:39:29
There's so much available at twenty eight that you can roll the dice,
1:39:34
trade back into the thirties, potentially pick up a third round pick, and
1:39:40
then still get a guy that you want. Because you have a handful of
1:39:42
dudes that you would be happy to take in any of them, and you
1:39:45
can still get one of them in the thirties and pick up a third round
1:39:46
pick while you do it. Bum bum bum. Good comment here from Walter
1:39:54
saying, how much does the Bills value the fifth year option that comes with
1:39:58
the twenty eighth selection over trading back and picking up another fourth for a premium
1:40:00
position like wide receiver, defensive tackle, defensive end. We have to consider
1:40:04
staying absolutely, especially if you're getting somebody with like that provides that long term
1:40:10
value having a premium position locked up for those five years with that option,
1:40:15
especially if you hit on them, like if you hit on wide receiver,
1:40:18
defensive tackle or edge or corner at the end of the first round, that
1:40:23
fifth year option obviously it's more expensive, but it's still affordable versus what the
1:40:28
market is for that player and for that premium position potentially. So that's obviously
1:40:32
going to have to like heavily weigh into things. And I think then you're
1:40:35
weighing that fifth year option versus the overall team and roster construction and value that
1:40:42
you could potentially have. It comes down to do you really believe you're going
1:40:46
to nail that pick at twenty eight and make use of that fifth year option.
1:40:50
Or do you want as many throws at the dart boarder swings at the
1:40:55
plate and volume versus quality in that regard as well. Weighed out, but
1:41:00
that's something that absolutely has to be considered. Well, well said there,
1:41:02
Walter, but yeah, it's oh Ruff wasn't seen her with this comment saying,
1:41:12
did you see Eric Woods pod where McGovern said being recruited in for the
1:41:15
center position? Yeah, I saw. He talked about something that they didn't
1:41:18
expect more or he didn't expect Morse to go this year or go the way
1:41:23
that he did. But they had discussions at the end of the season with
1:41:28
Aaron Kromer about him moving to center, and so he knew at some point
1:41:31
he was going to be playing center. He just didn't think Morse was going
1:41:34
to go out in this way or go out this offseason. I did see
1:41:38
that. I thought, I sorry, I mut to myself too early.
1:41:45
I thought it was very interesting him kind of saying that, not even just
1:41:47
that that was the plan, but him saying it. I feel like him
1:41:49
kind of giving that peek behind the curtain was interesting because we don't really get
1:41:53
that for anything with the Bills, with how tight lipped they are when it
1:41:56
comes to information. So I thought that was very interesting. Also, yeah,
1:42:00
just considering how good Mitch Morse has been for this team and so knowing
1:42:05
that that was kind of the long term plan. But again understandable and that's
1:42:09
fair overall to a degree. Comment here from John saying, can you see
1:42:14
being trading a fourth and a fifth this year and a third next year and
1:42:18
second and twenty twenty six? Would that get us up to fifteen? Man,
1:42:21
I'd have to go through the trade charts and see. Oh. Good
1:42:27
comment here from Spin say, and according to the draft trade value charts,
1:42:30
it will cost our entire draft class to get a round to pick fourteen.
1:42:33
Yeah, I don't if I was say, I'd have to consult the trade
1:42:38
charts. It's a lot. I'm not a big fan of moving up just
1:42:42
because I traditionally I like as many swings at the plate when it comes to
1:42:46
the draft, just because of how much of an unknown every player is.
1:42:49
Even though you have certain guys that are known quantities, even the most known
1:42:54
quantity is still unknown, and kind of trading the farm to bet on that
1:43:00
aspect, it worries me to a degree, and I'd like as many shots
1:43:03
as possible. But I mean, I don't know if you can trade it
1:43:06
if Romo Dunes falls and he's sitting there at fifteen or something like. I
1:43:10
understand the people that are gonna kind of voice their wants for trading up for
1:43:14
him and going after that piece sus been are how many or how much do
1:43:18
you consider needs in twenty five and twenty six for this draft. People weren't
1:43:21
thrilled with multiple linebacker picks in past years, but maybe they always knew we
1:43:25
weren't keeping Edmunds. So I put this edmund situation and the Bernard pick out
1:43:32
on Twitter at the end of last week, and I likened it to potentially
1:43:34
going with corner this year. Rasseul Douglas is a UFA in twenty twenty five.
1:43:41
They chose to restructure him this offseason instead of extending him and using that
1:43:45
extension to lower the cap hit this year, which I find interesting. Your
1:43:49
corner three for this year is Kyrie Elam, which could work out, but
1:43:54
also could not work out. All of those things combined, I think make
1:43:59
corn Or a sneaky play in the first round for the Bills. You get
1:44:02
somebody that can be at worst your corner three this year. But knowing the
1:44:10
chances and the odds that dudes get banged up in the secondary, especially Christian
1:44:14
Benford who continues to get banged up in a variety of ways. If you
1:44:16
draft a corner in the first round, there's a chance they're going to be
1:44:19
that they could be corner two or corner one for you at some point this
1:44:24
season. And then even if it's not this season, you take somebody in
1:44:28
the first round this year who's waiting in the wings to take over for Rasoul
1:44:30
Douglas next year. And so that that was the exact example that went in
1:44:35
my head. You know, they took Terrell Bernard, maybe not necessarily knowing
1:44:40
that they weren't going to keep Edmonds because they did try to keep him,
1:44:42
but or maybe it was just purely best player available and they really love the
1:44:45
player and they love the value and they were cool taking no matter what.
1:44:48
But the idea of taking somebody kind of a year before you need to was
1:44:54
the example with Bernard. I think you could see that play out again with
1:44:57
corner one, because I think there's gonna be quality corners that a going to
1:45:00
be there at twenty eight. But two, given the corner room this year,
1:45:02
and the unknown that kyri Elam is, and then going forward in twenty
1:45:06
twenty five knowing that Rasul Douglas is a UFA, and also again for twenty
1:45:11
twenty four, Christian Benford just you know, being banged up a bit amy,
1:45:20
he says. Even in Anthony, what's up? Amy? She says,
1:45:23
does Bean freak us mafia out and move way up? Because we all
1:45:27
know we won't use all our later picks and the Bears alone would be interested
1:45:30
in swapping for simply more picks. I've wondered that the idea of them finding
1:45:35
a dance partner where they can give up some of their quantity and acquire some
1:45:41
more quality. So again you got like eleven picks, being able to package
1:45:45
some of that and end up with six or seven picks, but more Day
1:45:48
two picks or early Day three type of picks. I don't think the Bills
1:45:54
are going to stand pat with all eleven picks, is what I say.
1:45:57
I either think you'll get some sort of trade up, or you'll get some
1:46:00
sort of package that nets them a third round pick or an earlier fourth or
1:46:04
some kind of pick in that regard. I just think that's what's gonna end
1:46:08
up happening. I don't think they're gonna see I don't think they're just gonna
1:46:11
sit on all eleven picks. If they do, I don't think that's the
1:46:13
end of the world. Because again, I like as many swings at at
1:46:15
the plate as possible, but a lot of those swings are in the fifth
1:46:19
round and later, so i'd like more. I'd like more in the first
1:46:23
four rounds. As much as many Day two picks as I can get,
1:46:27
I would prefer. I don't see the Bills just sitting on all eleven picks.
1:46:30
I think you'll get some sort of trade. I don't see them sitting
1:46:33
on all eleven picks as it currently stands. I think you might see a
1:46:36
combination of a trade down, in a trade up, or at the very
1:46:39
least, some sort of package that nets them more quality and using some of
1:46:43
their quantity to do it. It's been saying, at least Douglas will most
1:46:48
likely get us a decent COMPIC the following year. I don't know, man.
1:46:50
I thought the same thing about Tremaine Edmunds. I thought it was locked
1:46:54
and loaded, done and dusted, that Edmunds was going to get a third
1:46:58
round pick for the bills, considering the contract that he signed with the Bears,
1:47:00
most money ever guaranteed for a linebacker, where it put him in terms
1:47:03
of total contract and navage annual value. And then we're sitting here with a
1:47:08
fourth and then somehow the Bengals got moved from their sixth to the third.
1:47:11
And it's all because the Compic formula is like the Krabby Patty Secret formula and
1:47:14
nobody knows what it actually is. Disappointing, disappointing, disappointing, disappointing.
1:47:18
Oh that's been our saying, oh, thank you very much. One,
1:47:21
thank you for being here too, thank you very much for the super chat.
1:47:24
That's awesome. And then three of the comment here that's been are saying
1:47:27
thanks to the thoughtful answers. Always enjoy hearing your thoughts. Break down the
1:47:30
kick return rules sometimes so I can sound smarter to my friends. You know
1:47:35
what I do? Oh? Where? Where? Or where I have that
1:47:43
on? Oh? Where did I forget? I'm trying to search it on
1:47:47
Twitter. I screenshotted what the new kick return rules are and how everything goes
1:47:55
down. I just don't want to take the time to search through it right
1:47:59
now and have all the debt. If I had another person on with me,
1:48:00
I would just let him sit and riff. But if you ask me
1:48:04
on the next show, I one hundred percent will break them down because I
1:48:08
have I have the link and everything for it. Actually, as I talk
1:48:14
here do I maybe have here we go? I found the screenshot. So
1:48:20
you want to sound smarter of your friends, record what I'm about to say
1:48:24
and memorize it and repeat it to them. So the kicker will kick the
1:48:29
ball from his own thirty five yard line. Ten of his teammates will line
1:48:31
up on the other team's forty yard line. The receiving teams nine or ten
1:48:36
blockers will line up on their own thirty five. The kick must land between
1:48:41
the twenty and the goal line. A kick that either goes out of bounds
1:48:45
or lands short of the twenty will be awarded to the receiving team at the
1:48:49
forty yard line. A kick that goes into the end zone for a touchback
1:48:55
will go out to the receiving team's thirty yard line. Other than kickers,
1:49:00
than the kicker and returners, no players may move until the ball either touches
1:49:03
the ground or is fielded by a returner. Those are the new kick return
1:49:09
rules. I found the screenshots. I'm very proud of myself. M m
1:49:15
oh RJ going with the conspiracy theory here, saying the NFL made an example
1:49:18
out of being signing all those one point seven seven million dollar contracts. I
1:49:23
really think it was a punishment for that. Honestly, I'm not really here
1:49:28
to tell you that you're wrong. It's wild. I thought it was guaranteed
1:49:32
that they were gonna get a third I don't know how they didn't. I'm
1:49:34
still kind of baffled by it. But them's the brakes. Unfortunately at this
1:49:40
spot, if you folks have not already, for those of you who still
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1:49:53
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1:50:02
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1:50:13
Assessmentar for the super chat and the kind words. Really appreciate that as
1:50:15
well. Many many thanks to James Foster for riding with me on this episode.
1:50:20
Again, give him a follow on Twitter if you're on Twitter at No
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1:50:31
there's no bias, there's no there's no ulterior motive. It's just his evaluation
1:50:39
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1:50:43
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1:50:47
someone that I gravitate towards. So give him a follow. He does really
1:50:50
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