Latest / For Azeroth!: A World of Warcraft Podcast / #375 - For Azeroth!: “Blinded by the Light"
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- 0:00It is no longer. You walk down the street and you
- 0:02say, oh, I play World of Warcraft and five people turn
- 0:04their head. You play World of Warcraft like
- 0:06Victory for the Forsaken. For Lauderon.
- 0:10For the Kieran Tour. For.
- 0:13Pandaria. For.
- 0:17Calendar to the burning region, for Gilneus but has not died,
- 0:25for the Lich King, for the Sindora, for the Alliance, for
- 0:34the Horn for Azeroth. Hello everyone, it is a rainy
- 0:39day in Toronto and it is a great day.
- 0:43Play some World of Warcraft. But I have dragged away my 2 Co
- 0:46hosts away from their levelling, away from their gearing up, away
- 0:50from their, I don't know, pet collecting, Who knows to play a
- 0:54little bit of World of Warcraft. And so joining us from the
- 0:57amazing Arctic circles of Alaska, we have Lexer ants.
- 1:01Hello Lex, and how is the World of Warcraft treating you this
- 1:04week? It is treating me very well.
- 1:06I am having the absolute time of my life.
- 1:09Midnight is. It might be that it's early, but
- 1:12currently Midnight is feeling like a solo player's paradise.
- 1:17I'm having so much fun. This is the first time in a long
- 1:19time that I've really felt motivated to log on just to
- 1:22play, like just to go and like do a couple delves and like,
- 1:25turn on my to pray, do some world quest, get some gear, have
- 1:28a good time. I am loving it.
- 1:31I'm having such a good time. I am absolutely thriving.
- 1:35Awesome, awesome. And of course we go to Sean who
- 1:38is looking to get 6 monitors for six different alts.
- 1:42Hello Sean, how are you and how is the World of Warcraft
- 1:45treating you? I'm doing good.
- 1:47A years ago, I saw a movie called Swordfish starring Hugh
- 1:49Jackman and John Travolta. And in that, Hackman plays a a
- 1:54hacker. And in that, there's a scene
- 1:56where he's like standing at a computer and he's typing
- 1:58furiously and he's smiling. And it's like this montage and
- 2:01there's six monitors in front of him.
- 2:03And my whole life I've been chasing that moment.
- 2:07Warcraft treated me good. What a fun fact about the
- 2:09Arctic. I'm going to tell you what
- 2:10anyway, So just say yes. The Arctic was named by Norse
- 2:14adventurers, and it means bears. It means there are bears here.
- 2:18The Antarctic means no bears. Now, here's the fun fact.
- 2:23When they named this, no one had ever been to the Antarctic.
- 2:28So they just guessed that if there was an Arctic, there must
- 2:31be an opposite. And those bastards were right.
- 2:35They were right, and there's no bears there.
- 2:37Yeah, they accidentally named them appropriately.
- 2:41Man, I love the Vikings. Anyway.
- 2:43That's my fun. Fact.
- 2:44It is awesome. It is still awesome.
- 2:47Yeah, I think that's a great fact.
- 2:49Warcraft has been treating me good.
- 2:50I I'm holding steady at 4 characters leveled, 4 world
- 2:56tours of M0, four sets of renowned gear, four times
- 3:00everything that's going to fall off when the season starts.
- 3:05For sure because of a lack of monitors.
- 3:06Is it? Yeah, yeah, I need more
- 3:09monitors. If you're not already subscribed
- 3:12to the four Ezraoth Patreon, I need you to subscribe.
- 3:14I need to get another monitor. I need an Asus ZX70, I think is
- 3:20the next one I need. I made that number up.
- 3:22I don't know if that's a real monitor, but yeah, no, it's it's
- 3:26just a time thing. When Mythic Plus opens up on the
- 3:2824th, there will be it'll be spamming Mythic Plus on my main,
- 3:34which means there will be very little time for any of the
- 3:36others. So I'll try and keep them sort
- 3:39of relevant, probably through Heroic delves and the more
- 3:42likely the Prey system because I am absolutely head over heels in
- 3:47love with Astolore, Bloodsworn and the Prey system.
- 3:51I actually went and looked up the voice actor on Cameo to see
- 3:54if I could get him to say that I Sean, you've done a good job
- 3:59with. All the disdain.
- 4:02That doesn't sound like Astelore.
- 4:04Astelore would never tell you you've got a.
- 4:06And he used to be on Cameo, but he's no longer on Cameo.
- 4:10So then I went and found him on Blue Sky and followed him there.
- 4:14And then at that point I was like, OK, you know what?
- 4:17This might be crossing the line. I probably shouldn't stalk this
- 4:21man anyway. I'm going to invite him on the
- 4:22show. OK.
- 4:26And then chat gave me that idea they're OK, just invite him on
- 4:31for an interview. That's not creepy like, well, it
- 4:33is if he finds out how we got here.
- 4:37We'll, we'll delete this part from the the show or you know,
- 4:41like that, like you don't never listen to this.
- 4:45It'll be OK. Or maybe he does listen if you
- 4:48are listening. First off, amazing job.
- 4:52You have made me very excited for a game mode that I thought
- 4:56would be abandoned very quickly in my midnight seasonal
- 5:01rotation. And secondly, thank you.
- 5:06You're, you're an amazing voice. He's also the voice of Prince
- 5:09Renathal, which I thought was neat, which a lot of people are
- 5:12using to connect Astelore to Kaelthos in the Shadow Lands
- 5:17because Anguish is so close to Anima and maybe there's some tie
- 5:21there. And I think that would also be
- 5:22fun because I'm a big Chaos fan. Anyway.
- 5:26Warcraft's been good, yeah. I don't have an astral or shrine
- 5:31built in my office yet. Yet OK.
- 5:35I think it's good when our video rooms teach us things about
- 5:37ourselves, and I'm glad you're able to learn something exciting
- 5:39about yourself, Sean. Thanks, Lex.
- 5:42Yeah, me too. Perfect.
- 5:43I'll do. OK, so this is of course we've
- 5:48got past the first official reset of of midnight.
- 5:54We still have one more week of the Mythic 0 world tours, one
- 5:59more week of normal and hard prey, and one more week of Dells
- 6:05being capped at 7:00. But there is a lot coming
- 6:08because one of the big things that is coming, of course is
- 6:13season 1. But this week hasn't been
- 6:16without anything. There has been a lot of stories
- 6:20that have come out, including an absolute deluge of things on the
- 6:24Blizzard store. So this has been a set of
- 6:29mounts, 4 different mounts that you can get for a tiny little
- 6:32sum that came in a bundle or you can buy them individually.
- 6:36Not not the first time that we've had something like that.
- 6:40But this was overshadowed by, of course, the big Hearthsteel
- 6:45Blitz that they did. So if you thought the
- 6:48Hearthsteel store didn't have many options, well, they decided
- 6:53to update that and give us a lot of things.
- 6:56One of those was of course, a big source of controversy.
- 7:02They had this nice little spring blossom tree which they had as
- 7:08part of the Spring Blossom Decor Pack or you could buy it by
- 7:12itself. The tree alone originally cost
- 7:16750 half steel. Of course, based on different
- 7:24currencies that that means different things.
- 7:29It also came in part of a pack for 2500 or 2500, and that had a
- 7:38number of different things and had one of the trees in.
- 7:41People were saying that this was way too much for a piece of
- 7:45Decor to be at that at that price point.
- 7:48They were also saying that if somebody wants to actually use
- 7:54this sort of thing, they're not going to just buy one.
- 7:55You're not going to have one tree.
- 7:58I mean, based on what you set up, maybe you can make it work
- 8:01with one tree, but most people would be putting multiple
- 8:03multiples in. And so of course, people quickly
- 8:08ran and grabbed their pitchforks and took to the forms to steal
- 8:13from a different show. It was a shit show that caused
- 8:18Blizzard to pull both the tree and the decor pack down from the
- 8:25store for a short while. And then they came back and the
- 8:30store was slashed from 7:50 to 2:50 for the tree alone.
- 8:37And the pack, while remaining at the same price, now includes 3
- 8:43times the trees. So increased value there.
- 8:49But I gotta ask you guys, what do you think of this?
- 8:52Is this, is this the scary dystopian future that your
- 8:57parents warned you about when her steel was first introduced?
- 9:00Let's go with you, Lex. What's your your thoughts on
- 9:03this? I mean, OK to be, I'm not a
- 9:07collector and I understand that like FOMO and like this urgency
- 9:12to collect everything can feel very overwhelming.
- 9:14And I, I don't mean to like, that's not a thing that I I
- 9:17understand and I don't mean to be dismissive.
- 9:20Lex, you can only talk for yourself.
- 9:21Sing your truth, Lex. My truth is, first of all,
- 9:25unless they also change the price of hard steel, that's like
- 9:27$10, right? Yeah, like $10.00 for a tree is
- 9:30silly. But it's a tree, right?
- 9:31Like, you also don't have to get it.
- 9:33It's not power in the game, It, you know, And it's also, yeah,
- 9:36every time I do anything, they throw 10 housing items at me.
- 9:40So is it stupid? Yeah.
- 9:42That's a stupid price for a tree, $10.00 for a tree.
- 9:45Ridiculous. It's. 7:50 it's it's a dollar
- 9:48for every 100 Hertz steel. OK.
- 9:50Yeah. So. 750 Basically you're moving
- 9:52to decimal too when you're doing hard steel conversions at this.
- 9:55.0 perfect that's very easy then yeah like that that's dumb that
- 9:58is a dumb amount of money for them to make a treat Is it game
- 10:02breaking? I don't think so again I I I
- 10:05listen I'm not a shopper right I don't really buy things on the
- 10:09shop I don't really look at the shop.
- 10:10I, you know, get my 6 month subscription mounts and I call
- 10:14it a day. But I also as long as what they
- 10:16are posting on the shop is not player power, they can post
- 10:23whatever they want, right? They can post if they want to
- 10:27ask people if they'll spend $20,000 on a housing decor.
- 10:33I'm I'm not buying it. I don't think anyone should.
- 10:36I think that's a stupid amount of money to spend on silly
- 10:38little housing decor. But if you want to more power to
- 10:40you manage your money, which tends to be my take with
- 10:44everything on the shop like I just.
- 10:48It's there and you can leave it so it doesn't bother you.
- 10:50Right. OK, All right.
- 10:52Yeah, that that that's pretty close to where I'm at.
- 10:56John, let's go to you. What's What's your take on this
- 10:59Hearthstone hoopla? I struggled to muster a single
- 11:06about Hertz Steel or Decor on the shop.
- 11:09I really truly do, but I have some points.
- 11:12That being said, the post that came out when they 'cause they
- 11:16pulled it off the shop and readjusted it.
- 11:18The post that came out, it didn't say, hey, we hear you,
- 11:21that you're upset. This repricing isn't fair.
- 11:24They said it was an incorrect price.
- 11:26So the the messaging we got from Kyvax, and I have no reason to
- 11:30doubt Kyvax, is that it was never meant to go live at 7:50.
- 11:35It was meant to go live at the price of 250.
- 11:37It was a mistake. They fixed it.
- 11:40Now is that the truth or is the truth?
- 11:44It went live at 7:50 to see if people would be upset about it.
- 11:47And when they were, they quickly said, hey, that wasn't the real
- 11:50price. I don't know.
- 11:51I'm going to, I would like to believe Kyvax because I like, I
- 11:53don't because I want to believe Kyvax.
- 11:55I just, I just want to believe him.
- 11:57So he says it was never meant to be that price.
- 12:00I believe him also because I don't care, but I, I choose to
- 12:04believe him. And the second note is these
- 12:08items on the shop don't give housing experience.
- 12:12So there's no gain. There's like like when Lexus
- 12:15player power, there is literally 0 to gain from this other than
- 12:17the item in the shop. And and I, I hear you.
- 12:20I hear collectors, you know, and I I get it.
- 12:23I don't understand that collector mentality because I do
- 12:26not have that particular. I'm not going to you don't have
- 12:32that drive phrase. Yeah, that drive.
- 12:34Thanks. That's way better than what I
- 12:35was going to say. I, I don't feel that, but if you
- 12:39are a collector and you're upset because you don't think it's
- 12:42right that they're charging whatever price for her steal and
- 12:45this bothers you because you want to collect everything, just
- 12:48whatever part of your brain allows you to accept the stuff
- 12:52that you can't ever get back in the game again.
- 12:55Like let's say you're a mount collector.
- 12:56I'm a mount collector, but I didn't start playing until
- 12:59Cataclysm. Well, all of those mounts pre
- 13:01Cataclysm that you can never get and you've accepted that and
- 13:05you've moved on and are still a collector.
- 13:07Just put the just put the housing decor in that same
- 13:10bucket. You know what I mean?
- 13:12Just just say OK, this is just like the wolf from Mr. Pandaria
- 13:17AOTC that I never got from Siege of Orgrimmar.
- 13:20I'll just put this in the same bucket mentally and then I don't
- 13:23have to be so upset all the time.
- 13:26Literally on the brink of World War three and people are losing
- 13:29their minds over a / a a fake tree man.
- 13:36Anyway, that's that's where I'm at.
- 13:39I honestly don't care, I'm tired.
- 13:40I'm actually tired of talking about it.
- 13:42If you don't like the prices on the shop, don't buy stuff off
- 13:46the shop. So you've had multiple
- 13:47conversations. Sorry.
- 13:49When you say you're tired of talking about, though, are you
- 13:51talking about just generally you're tired of talking about
- 13:53the shop and when people get angry at the shop or about this
- 13:57particular thing? The shop as a whole, the shop as
- 14:00because the next big thing was the $50 squirrels.
- 14:02But nobody was mad at the $50 squirrels.
- 14:04Which is great because they're. Because they're.
- 14:06Yeah, because they're too busy being mad at this tree.
- 14:09It's like, man, just don't buy it.
- 14:12I don't. I don't get it.
- 14:13And right, I I, I, I guarantee you, there's a collector
- 14:16listening to this right now. Like, you don't understand.
- 14:18I had everything. Like you don't.
- 14:21And that they probably don't sound like that.
- 14:22I imagine most of the people who listen to this show don't sound
- 14:24like that. But I had to do some
- 14:25differentiations. You knew it wasn't my voice.
- 14:27And it was there, boy. Anyway, just don't buy it and
- 14:32put it in whatever bucket mentally you've put in all of
- 14:35those. But you know, wherever you have
- 14:36spectral tigers sat in your brain as being OK that you don't
- 14:40own, put this tree there and move on.
- 14:45There's so many great things at midnight to collect.
- 14:46Go collect them. You got to be doing your
- 14:49abundance runs anyway. You need like a million of
- 14:51those. Oh dear.
- 14:52God. They can't be sending you tweets
- 14:54anyway. So no, I don't care about the
- 14:57tree and I don't care what Blizzard does.
- 14:58They can charge what they want. I'm never going to buy anything
- 15:00decor wise. I'm never going to buy hers.
- 15:02Deal it. It doesn't affect me at all.
- 15:05Yeah. One thing that I think about a
- 15:06lot, and I don't really understand the like business
- 15:09side of this, but I, it, it makes a lot of sense when people
- 15:12have explained it to me is that game development has gotten
- 15:15significantly more expensive over time and World of Warcraft
- 15:20overall is not growing significantly in players, right?
- 15:24It's like I, I, I don't know the exact numbers, but it is not
- 15:29wrath, right? It is no longer you walk down
- 15:31the street and you say, oh, I play World of Warcraft and five
- 15:33people turn their heads. You play World of Warcraft like
- 15:36we're not in those days when you can just expect, like there's so
- 15:41many people joining their printing on.
- 15:43Me. Where do you live that at any
- 15:45point in history that happened? I had somebody like honk at me
- 15:49on the street and I was like, what's going on?
- 15:50And they saw my horn shirt And they're like, yeah.
- 15:53Really. It's crazy to me.
- 15:56I I to be fair, I like, I do still, you know, if you post
- 15:59online that you play World of Warcraft, you're probably going
- 16:02to find a few. But so, like, it's not the World
- 16:04of Warcraft is like dying, right?
- 16:07I'm not trying to doomer that, right?
- 16:10I also, you know, I, there's a reason the World of Warcraft is
- 16:13the Blizzard game that gets overwhelmingly the most
- 16:15attention. And everyone else at BlizzCon,
- 16:17you know, gets their patch notes right out.
- 16:20And it's because, yeah, the subscription model makes a lot
- 16:22more money than other types, but they also haven't really raised
- 16:25subscription prices for a while. We all understand, you know, how
- 16:28inflation is working. We all buy things and spend our
- 16:31money and have bills. And so they're, they kind of do
- 16:35have to find some income stream somewhere, right?
- 16:37I, I can be sympathetic to why I don't like it, but I can be
- 16:40sympathetic to why so many games turn pay to win because you kind
- 16:43of have to make money somehow. And games do not make a lot of
- 16:46money, from what I've heard. Again, I'm not in this world,
- 16:48but this is what I've heard again and again and again from
- 16:50many, many people to the point where I believe it now.
- 16:53So if they want to make that income stream, these silly,
- 16:56goofy little things, I again, I actually kind of think that's
- 16:59good. I would rather they do that than
- 17:01raise my sub prices. So I'm, you know, again, as long
- 17:05as it's not the type of thing where I like people feel like
- 17:08they have to. And again, I understand that's
- 17:10complicated with collectors. I understand that's complicated
- 17:12when you feel that like FOMO and that urge to collect.
- 17:16But I actually do kind of think the store with what like as it
- 17:20is now is sort of net positive for everyone.
- 17:25It keeps all of our prices down. It means the people who want to
- 17:28like love silly, goofy little amounts or who are super excited
- 17:31about housing and we're like really sad they didn't get cute
- 17:33little garden stuff. Like they they can get that
- 17:36opportunity and Blizzard gets more money.
- 17:39And again, I you also don't need to explain things to me.
- 17:41Like most of that's actually going to Phil Spencer.
- 17:43Like yes, I know, I know, I know, I know.
- 17:45This is. Not anymore.
- 17:46See ya the latest Phil Spencer. Oh, is he gone?
- 17:49I wasn't. Yeah, he's stepped.
- 17:50He got, he got. I was really hoping I'm gonna do
- 17:52your impression of what collectors sound like so I'm not
- 17:54the only reason we lose 50% of our viewers today, but I guess
- 17:59not. I think they sound like Hi Lex,
- 18:02I'll buy a lot of things on the shop so that you only have to
- 18:05pay $15.00 a month. I hope we both have fun doing
- 18:09what we're doing. That's how they sounded in my
- 18:12head. Appreciate you.
- 18:14OK, there you go. I mean, yeah, there's a lot of
- 18:18things that that you said there, Lex.
- 18:19That totally makes sense. The big famous story is that the
- 18:23Sparkle Pony made more money than all of StarCraft 2 and its
- 18:29expansions. So these these things are
- 18:32definitely profitable for the company.
- 18:35Go overhead log into the game right now, head to the crafting
- 18:39district and see how many $90.00 Brutus, sorry $90.00 Brutusaurs
- 18:44are running around at any given time.
- 18:46The store makes money for sure. There are questions about how
- 18:52predatory things may be, but obviously a pack of flying
- 18:56squirrels really doesn't push that needle.
- 19:01The decor is really just I don't think that it is the most
- 19:07harmful of things, but of course there are ways that you can make
- 19:13it just a little bit more enticing Where they had said,
- 19:17hey, listen, we're going to have the prices set up so you don't
- 19:21have any loose half steel that you can buy things in exact
- 19:25amounts and not have to buy the next bundle higher.
- 19:28And the 750 price point broke that that's a very quick for
- 19:33them to to break something that they had said.
- 19:36There is where they are asking for feedback and every single
- 19:41content creator that was really into housing was just saying
- 19:45please don't integrate that store into the game just keep it
- 19:47off to itself. And it's ridiculous how
- 19:51integrated that store is into the game.
- 19:53So I don't think these bundles are where you need to exactly
- 19:58point your finger for like what I what you should be angry at.
- 20:04And I think that people voting with their wallet definitely
- 20:08helps, even if what Kyvex said was not correct.
- 20:14Was maybe just a nice use of incorrect to avoid a particular
- 20:21framing. I think that it's good that they
- 20:24took it down and adjusted the price in such a quick manner
- 20:29that to me. And refunded anybody who bought
- 20:32it at the full price and added two more trees to anybody who
- 20:35bought the bundle. Yeah, I don't know.
- 20:39Yeah, I believe Kyvax. I'm a Kyvax believer.
- 20:43I, I feel like corporate communications are, are a sticky
- 20:49situation that there are sometimes where when you are a
- 20:53public facing person, you have to say things based on your
- 20:56marching orders, not necessarily what you may believe it to be.
- 21:00And I think that, yeah, Kyvax and Kyvax, Randy, all of
- 21:05everybody who works there, they do a good job trying to speak
- 21:09with us and get that information out to us.
- 21:11But I don't think the word incorrect holds much weight with
- 21:17me right now. But I'm not going to put that on
- 21:20the on the guy who is printing the words.
- 21:23So we'll move. They say don't kick the
- 21:25messenger into the giant pit, even if it is Sparta.
- 21:28Isn't that what they say this is?
- 21:31Silver Moon kicks into Sun. Well, yeah.
- 21:35OK, Well moving on from that, we also got a bit of tuning this
- 21:42week. This is of course non class
- 21:45tuning because that's all being held for heroic week.
- 21:49But we got some changes to dungeons.
- 21:51We got a roller coaster of a ride for the personal key to the
- 21:57R Cantina. Sean, do you want to tell us
- 21:59what in the world's been going on with this little item?
- 22:01Yeah, so the R Cantina, once you've unlocked it and you
- 22:05unlock it by doing quests and hanging out with the the Sons of
- 22:10Lothar, it's this it was it started out as a key that was on
- 22:15a 1.5 minute cooldown and would teleport you to the Argentina,
- 22:18this magical Tavern that exists in the ether.
- 22:22And then upon exiting, there's a portal in the Argentina.
- 22:25Upon exiting that portal, it would take you directly to
- 22:27Silver Moon because Silver Moon is the capital city of this
- 22:30expansion. Well what this meant was
- 22:33everybody had a direct town portal, the Silver Moon on a 1.5
- 22:38minute cooldown, which felt some people felt was game breaking.
- 22:44So because you had this direct port of the Silver Moon now
- 22:47everybody had the same benefit as mages and you were able to
- 22:50set your Hearthstone to Zolemon, which is the furthest capital of
- 22:55the four new zones in midnight from Silver Moon.
- 23:00So you set your heart from Zolemon, use your canteen, the
- 23:02key to go to Silver Moon, Bob's your uncle, you're everybody's a
- 23:05mage now because this is what mages have done for decades.
- 23:07They set their portals that got changed.
- 23:11Blizzard saw that people were doing that and they're like, oh,
- 23:13that's not intended. We don't want that.
- 23:14We're going to change the key so that now it returns you to
- 23:18wherever you left from. So it would work like I think
- 23:21it's Zen Meditation is the monk ability that you use and it
- 23:24takes you to the peak of serenity and then when you use
- 23:26it again it takes you back to where you were.
- 23:28Yeah, or the Yakkers Gate that Death Knights use.
- 23:30Exactly. Yeah, a death death gate for for
- 23:34for death Knights. Great functionality.
- 23:37And I think this is probably how the key was initially meant to
- 23:40be used. But what this meant was that
- 23:43through the use of the queue system into other follower
- 23:46dungeons or a heroic dungeon, if you were in a full party,
- 23:50everybody had free dungeon teleports because you could
- 23:54queue for a follower dungeon. You appear in the dungeon, you
- 23:58then use your R cantina key. You appear in the R Cantina, you
- 24:02leave the instance group, so you're no longer part of that
- 24:06follower dungeon, but your last known location was in the
- 24:09dungeon. But if you're no longer in the
- 24:11group, when you return to that location to put you outside of
- 24:14the dungeon. So for our first world tours
- 24:17last week, we all poured it to every dungeon.
- 24:20We queued for a dungeon. We got there, we all poured it
- 24:24to the Argentina. We all left the instance group.
- 24:26We all walked over to the Argentina and then walked into
- 24:28the dungeon on mythic difficulty.
- 24:31I felt this was a great use of the key.
- 24:34I had to move my. Creative use of game, yeah.
- 24:40I had to move my Hearthstone back to Silver Moon, which meant
- 24:42I was back to flying to Zulaman, which is not, I mean, it's not a
- 24:45bad flight. It's a it's a beautiful flight
- 24:46if you take a flight back. Why wouldn't you just like Den
- 24:49of Nalarac jump to there. Yeah, yeah.
- 24:53So yeah, I guess I could just do it anyway.
- 24:56This again got so this was still in a 1.5 minute cooldown.
- 25:01This then Blizzard was like, OK, we don't want that either.
- 25:06We're going back to it taking you to Silver Moon, but we're
- 25:10going to put it on a 15 minute cooldown, which doesn't really
- 25:17change. I mean, if you think about from
- 25:19the first iteration, I don't know anybody who's making trips
- 25:22back to Silver Moon, you know, like I don't know the name was
- 25:25like, man, I really got to get back there 3 minutes from now.
- 25:29Like the 15 minutes is great. So it's still now, it's just
- 25:31become a second Hearthstone directly to Silver Moon.
- 25:35So if you're listening, go and set your, if you're not a mage,
- 25:38go and set your Hearthstone to the innkeeper in Zulaman,
- 25:41Rosulgara. Zulgara is because that is the
- 25:44furthest you would ever have to fly because there's portals to
- 25:47Void Storm and Herinder. So set your Hearthstone there.
- 25:51Use your IKT and the key to go to Silver Moon and now you're
- 25:54set up for the rest of the tier I.
- 25:57I will be shocked if we don't see more iteration on this
- 26:03because it still doesn't feel like this is what they want or
- 26:05intend. I I don't know though, because
- 26:09you always had your Dalaran Hearthstone in Legion and this
- 26:13is now a Dalaran Hearthstone. Good point.
- 26:18I you know what? You've just you've literally
- 26:20just changed my mind. Yeah, it's going to lock in
- 26:22here. Can I ask a question?
- 26:25OK. Other than mages get mad because
- 26:29they have one fewer use, what's the harm in letting us all fast
- 26:34travel to dungeons and you? Know I am so glad you asked Lex,
- 26:38because there is an unspoken victim in this entire story and
- 26:43I cannot remain quiet. My conscience will not allow me
- 26:46to remain quiet. This absolutely wrecks shamans
- 26:52of all specs, all hero talents from both factions, both the
- 26:57horde and those other guys. We have an ability which is a
- 27:04second hearth that is on a 30 minute cooldown.
- 27:06So we always have two hearts, but you can't set set them
- 27:09independently. This is so much better than
- 27:11that. And nobody thinks of the poor
- 27:13shaman. They're like, hey, just go cry.
- 27:16Nobody will see it out of your your reign or you're dousing
- 27:20whatever anyways. And it's just, it is cruel.
- 27:25But I'm glad that like, they, they, they thought of us and
- 27:28they did something. I thought for sure you were
- 27:30going to say warlocks because you don't need a summoning stone
- 27:33if you can teleport to the dungeons.
- 27:35Which is also my second my second character.
- 27:38So I'm just getting screwed. Left, right, center is what's.
- 27:41Happening No, I'm with you Lex. This I don't know who it
- 27:43affects. I honestly haven't.
- 27:44I literally have no humans are humans already have two
- 27:47hearthstones, but like like or like shamans, they can't set
- 27:50them independently. So it's just two trips every 7
- 27:541/2 minutes. I can go, I can use my
- 27:56Hearthstone. I don't know who's doing that.
- 27:58Who's out here using the Hearthstone every 7 1/2?
- 28:00It's like when this key was a minute and a half.
- 28:02Who's out here every minute and a half going, you know what I
- 28:03got to go back to the Arcantina. I got to go back right now, but
- 28:07they did do a good thing. So because because the Arcantina
- 28:10sends you to you use the key, you pick up a quest, you go to a
- 28:13zone, you do the quest, and people were like, well, hey, if
- 28:16this reset is now 15 minutes, am I just stuck in Outland for 15
- 28:21minutes? Will I pick up these axes?
- 28:23Because you want to give the weirdest gift ever to Kurdran.
- 28:26And the answer is no. When you complete the quest, it
- 28:29resets the cooldown on your key for you.
- 28:31So you don't have to. You don't have to stress that
- 28:33we're getting stuck out there in Hellfire Peninsula.
- 28:36When users intended, they allow you to get back.
- 28:39Yeah, yeah. I don't know.
- 28:41It's just super weird, man. I don't know, like the first,
- 28:44the first way it was working, I was like, OK, cool, whatever.
- 28:46It's a minute and a half. It's a it's basically a portal
- 28:48to to the silver moon. And then when they changed it, I
- 28:52actually think the new the second way was the best use of
- 28:54it because you not just because of the dungeon teleport, but
- 28:59that would have shaved 7 1/2 minutes off of our second M zero
- 29:03runs on Sunday that we had to fly to the dungeons.
- 29:05Do like suckers. I'm I'm just.
- 29:09Saying who this this feels to me like the fact that like American
- 29:14taxes have to be complicated because TurboTax lobbies so
- 29:18heavily, but at least TurboTax is making money.
- 29:21Like why are the mages lobbying so heavily for me not to be able
- 29:25to teleport to whatever city I want to teleport to man, if
- 29:28anything, it frees you up. You I know I'm sorry, I'm sorry
- 29:32the warlocks have a harder time finding groups because they're
- 29:34no longer like required for raid.
- 29:36But wouldn't it be so nice if we could just like fast travel like
- 29:39every other video game, and then you have video games, you can
- 29:42click somewhere and you're there.
- 29:43I, I hate to tell you, Lex, the dev, the developers are all
- 29:47bought out by the mages, right? The Mages Association.
- 29:52Big mage, big big big big big big teleport lobbying the devs.
- 29:57Hey listen, I can't charge for teleports.
- 29:58The Silverman if you're just giving them away for free.
- 30:01And they give them a little bit of kickback.
- 30:03That's right. There you go.
- 30:05Tell the devs, get their horse deal.
- 30:07But Oh my God. For legal reasons, that's a
- 30:11joke. Anyways, there were other
- 30:17changes as well. We got changes to the dungeons
- 30:21that Sean was trying to teleport around to.
- 30:23Big one that is good for you Lex Follower dungeons were horrible
- 30:29and so they have made changes to follower dungeons.
- 30:32Both the companions deal more damage in general, 10% more
- 30:36damage in general. But when you're when they're up
- 30:39against the trash that they pull everything, they're now dealing
- 30:4225 to 30% more damage to to that trash.
- 30:46So they're just did they? Did they also have a hot fix
- 30:49where they're not stupid? No, they're still stupid.
- 30:52They're still, they're like changing the AI is not something
- 30:55they're gonna hot fix. That might be something that we
- 30:57you see later on down the way, but they seem Dumber than they
- 31:01were in Dragonflight. Like I didn't do any follower
- 31:04engines and the war Within but like I don't know some of those
- 31:10like DPS and sniffing something. I want to find person who coded
- 31:15them to run away if they have agro of something like flee as
- 31:19far away from you as possible and I just want to ask them why.
- 31:23Like because if we're teaching people to tank and just make
- 31:26them serious, still teach. People to tank?
- 31:28Are you kidding? The amount of people who don't
- 31:30know to run to the tank like just go like.
- 31:35Yes, and if I'm learning to tank, I just want them like I
- 31:39it's already hard enough man. I'm already just bad and I'm
- 31:43dropping aggro even when I'm playing with actual human beings
- 31:46just because stand still, that's all you have aggro.
- 31:49You don't move, you don't move your little feet.
- 31:51I'm not saying come to me, I'm not saying enough to run that.
- 31:54I'm just saying don't run in the opposite direction When I just
- 31:57cast I-beam and I can't move with I-beam and now I have
- 32:00nothing to pull them off you. Just like in real life, if
- 32:04you're in danger, just stand still and hope for something to
- 32:06save you. That's what I.
- 32:07Do I mean yes in real life, but in in the game, go to the tank.
- 32:13Go to the tank. Standing still is better than
- 32:16running away. If you don't move to the tank.
- 32:18Standing still is better than running away.
- 32:20They Lexus, they don't just run away, they run into more mobs.
- 32:24They're like, Oh my God, I'm a danger.
- 32:26Surely this vile axe hex spear thrower will save me.
- 32:32This one must be on my side. He's like Austin Huntsworth he's
- 32:35looking for. His friends over there, guys
- 32:37come get. Your friend, I found him.
- 32:40I found him for you. Yeah.
- 32:43It's OK, because if they die, Krenn is not going to res them
- 32:45anyway. So the trick is just let them
- 32:47die and then solo the dungeon. Except Mary.
- 32:53Listen, Mary Huntswell. Anytime I talk about the
- 32:55followers. Mary, if you're listening, you
- 32:57were the exception every time I zone indulgent right away mage
- 33:00biscuits. I don't even have to ask for
- 33:01them. You just drop them.
- 33:02You hop away less you're you're a treat.
- 33:08You are a treat. Austin Huxworth can get launched
- 33:10into the sun and I continue to report Corona.
- 33:14Corona for. Griefing OK that would be
- 33:18hilarious if they do get like a bunch of reports on the on the
- 33:22AI for griefing OK well in general dungeon news we also
- 33:28have a couple of changes to just mechanics and such that were
- 33:31happening at mythic difficulty. The big one that caught me
- 33:36unawares is in Matcher's Terrace.
- 33:40The boss that like divides it into like 4 pieces only divides
- 33:43it into and I was like is this glitch that's staying away from
- 33:46where I thought the dividing line should be just because I
- 33:48was like maybe it's not showing up and I'm gonna.
- 33:51Get. Myself killed, but that that's a
- 33:54lot different Sean at this point you being well, we haven't had
- 34:00the chance for you to prune. So you being doing your 40
- 34:02different characters and so you've had the most experience
- 34:07with the the mythic plus. Run us through this or sorry,
- 34:10not mythic plus mythic 0. The changes, so that change that
- 34:14changes I guarantee is almost explicitly because if somebody
- 34:18dies, if it's broken into four and somebody dies, it's
- 34:21basically a wipe because there's no way for anybody to cover that
- 34:24missed spot. So that's why I suspect it's cut
- 34:28into two instead of four. And it also makes more sense
- 34:32because you're playing volleyball, so you're trying to
- 34:34like not get over a net, not over 2 Nets.
- 34:37So then my Sara Caverns, the ritual concoction duration was
- 34:40increased to 30 minutes. It was 10 minutes.
- 34:42This is something you can drink if you're an alchemist and if
- 34:45you have to have alchemy 25 and it increases nature damage dealt
- 34:48to the enemies by 40% and it persists through death.
- 34:52So it stays. So just it's one of those
- 34:54little, they have these little things in the dungeons
- 34:56occasionally where it's like if you're this type of profession
- 34:59or this specific race or class, you can do stuff.
- 35:02This is just one of those in the Blinding Veil, the Light Blossom
- 35:05Trinity, that's the second boss. Depending on the second boss, if
- 35:09you went the correct path, first boss.
- 35:12If you chose the less correct path, there's more casters that
- 35:16way. Don't go left, go right.
- 35:19So the light bloom mythic plus is coming in your tanks.
- 35:23You need to know this. You can please don't go the
- 35:24wrong way. You're going to have hunters
- 35:27disengaging into packs so that like their their overgrowth
- 35:31periodic damage was reduced just to cut down on that.
- 35:34That fight honestly is kind of a snooze fest.
- 35:36So I I don't know that this needed any kind of nerf at all.
- 35:39I did. I did hear my first M 0 tour
- 35:43last week. I was told before we started.
- 35:45Hey people think binding bail is really really hard on Reddit and
- 35:51I can only assume that those people on Reddit did no normal
- 35:57runs, no heroic runs, didn't open the dungeon journal and
- 35:59never and just ignored all visual indicators from all of
- 36:04the enemies to have a difficult time because it is a very easy
- 36:07dungeon anyway. So that was nerfed, sorry
- 36:15partially nerfed periodic damage was nerfed, but the light gorge
- 36:18damage was increased the buff to 50% instead of 15%.
- 36:23So that's good for the players. It goes the light hunter in the
- 36:30same same dungeon. Blood Thorne roots periodic
- 36:33damage so the roots do less damage have.
- 36:36You ever had two roots on you? Have I ever had two roots?
- 36:40On you at the same time. No, I don't position myself in
- 36:45such a way that that could happen.
- 36:48I I have, I've been the unfortunate don't.
- 36:52Don't you play with? What's that thunderous pause?
- 36:56Is that the one that breaks roots when you switch it as a
- 36:57ghost wolf? No, no, there is.
- 37:00There is a one for your dash that allows you to remove all
- 37:07sneers and so that has saved me, but that's on a 32nd cooldown
- 37:11and so that that event happens more frequently than would allow
- 37:15me to escape. You can damage them.
- 37:18Yeah, you can hurt, you can hurt them down, but at 50%, like it
- 37:20was trucking and I was like, oh man, when this starts going up
- 37:23in, in difficulties, like obviously hopefully I'll be
- 37:26smarter by then, but the fact that it's scaling slower is is
- 37:32so much better. OK, that's probably good.
- 37:35That's probably fair. All right.
- 37:37And I I feel the damage less because I tank and then zeket
- 37:43light spawn the lasher health reduced by 12.5%.
- 37:46To the Latin, this is the last boss he summons a bunch of ads.
- 37:49You got to blow them up fast so they reduce their health so
- 37:52they'll die faster. And I've actually blinding veil
- 37:57is is one of the faster dungeons that I've done and I enjoy it
- 37:59quite a bit. That's also if you're wondering
- 38:01where to find bubbles Junior. It is in the blinding veil on
- 38:06your way to the last boss. There's a waterfall on the left,
- 38:10if you walk near it, Bubbles Junior pops out and recognizes
- 38:13you in glares. Then we had some changes to win
- 38:15winner Spire Commander Frolic, which is the third boss
- 38:21regardless of which path you go at the start.
- 38:24They just fixed his falling rebel so it's a little bit
- 38:26better. And then the territorial Dragon
- 38:28hawk fire spit cool down was increased by 5 seconds.
- 38:33That must be trash. I don't even know what that is.
- 38:37That is OK. I was going to say that's such a
- 38:38little impact. I don't even know what that is.
- 38:40And then Void Sky Arena, it says portal should more reliably
- 38:42deliver players to their destination.
- 38:45I have no idea what this is talking about.
- 38:47There are no port. The the only portal you take
- 38:49takes you upstairs. Yeah, and that was failing.
- 38:52Was it not taking people upstairs?
- 38:53It was failing. Oh OK, well then that's a good
- 38:56fix. That's a good fix.
- 38:58The Dutch just feel fine. Then I've warmed up on Den of
- 39:03Nalrak. It's still not great.
- 39:05And I think we're going to run into problems when we start
- 39:07pugging. And some pugs expect that the
- 39:10tank is going to do the windy part in two poles, and some
- 39:15people think that they're going to do it in more than two poles.
- 39:20Yeah, but it the dungeons have felt mostly fine.
- 39:23I'm shocked we got tuning this early on them.
- 39:26And I guess, I mean, apparently Reddit was right.
- 39:29Blinding Veil was really hard for a lot of folks, but if you
- 39:32just don't get hit by the mechanics, like they're almost
- 39:35all avoidable. Everything they nerved is almost
- 39:37all stuff you can avoid. So I don't know.
- 39:40I I wonder if it's if it's a matter of where their targets
- 39:44are for damage because like some groups would probably just
- 39:48absolutely have no issue with the light spawn on the last boss
- 39:52in there. Some groups might not have the
- 39:54burst AOE and if there are general damage targets that they
- 39:58look at him and say, yeah, OK, this needs to be brought down.
- 40:00Even if there are enough specs currently over performing that
- 40:03we might see this might be stuff that we're seeing in advance of
- 40:08maybe some nerfs, maybe some changes along there.
- 40:11And I think this in general, I expect season 1 to be let's
- 40:16let's be a little bit easier on people because they don't know.
- 40:19We don't have our add-ons. And then we got we go our
- 40:22apocalypse. So hey, yeah.
- 40:25But I'll accept it. I'm pro accessibility, so if it
- 40:28makes it easier for people to get in and do stuff, let's do
- 40:31it. Whatever you got to do I this
- 40:33just means that the the the roots, you can't avoid that
- 40:36happen on the knockback. I'll just have an easier time
- 40:39getting out of them maybe if I feel like getting rooted.
- 40:43I still don't have no idea how you get rooted twice.
- 40:45I'm so confused but. It was it was so weird.
- 40:47I just, yeah, I was like, Oh my God, I got 2.
- 40:52That's why it's per stack. That's why the nervous per stack
- 40:54'cause you can somehow I wish I had known how I did it.
- 40:58If I did no, then I wouldn't have happened to happened in the
- 41:021st place. But yes, you could have two
- 41:04stacks on you and good God, it takes like mad and I had to like
- 41:09do my own little sit on it AOE, try and get out selects his face
- 41:16right there. OK, ANYWAYS.
- 41:20And then of course, the most important change of all, that
- 41:25damn sun well isn't blaring over my speakers anymore.
- 41:30They have adjusted the volume and the blending of sounds in
- 41:33the sun well to make voice overs more understandable or to make
- 41:37anybody just, you know, generally audible over the
- 41:41whatever the hell that was. That's how whining people sound
- 41:45like. You got to make sure you
- 41:47remember it though, Like if it's too quiet you're going to forget
- 41:49it. I want to forget it.
- 41:51Lex, you remember do not well. Manny.
- 41:55No, I was about to invite the void right in just to shut it
- 41:59up. Anyways, so that's the stuff
- 42:03that's happened this week. But we do want to give you guys
- 42:06a little bit of a heads up for next week because when we
- 42:08return, we will be in full swing of of starting up Heroic week,
- 42:14which is next week. So coming with Heroic Week, Lex,
- 42:18can I get you to give us the rundown?
- 42:20It's we're doing stuff again. Things are happening.
- 42:24OK, so Delves T right and above is going to open up.
- 42:27We're gonna get our nemesis, Delve.
- 42:28That's gonna open up. Nullies.
- 42:30We love him. I don't know anything about him.
- 42:31I'm excited though. We're gonna kill a nemesis.
- 42:33Have have you had him show up in any of your delves yet?
- 42:36Have I wait? Maybe.
- 42:38I don't think so, but maybe I don't.
- 42:40I had him, I had him ambush me once out of all the delves and
- 42:43I've done up to delve 7 just to like make sure I'm ready to go
- 42:47for next week. No, no, no, show like only
- 42:52showed up once, so I guess he's active but subdued.
- 42:55OK. Yeah, I, I, to be fair, I just,
- 42:58whatever's in front of me, I kill it.
- 43:00And sometimes I think it'll be really cute for me to summon a
- 43:02couple of little extra things in that.
- 43:04Oh God, I can't even think of which one.
- 43:06But the one where they you can pick up the little shadow
- 43:09council summoning things and summon little Doomlords and then
- 43:12kill them. And I like to do that when I'm
- 43:15at the final boss and then die. So if you ever see my name pop
- 43:18up on one of the which also, can I just say, sorry, a little
- 43:21tangent. The fact that either I didn't
- 43:23notice this in the war within or they have the new thing where
- 43:25sometimes the name of the Dell things becomes like whatever
- 43:28killer of player name is so sick.
- 43:31I love it so much. That's so funny.
- 43:34I love this is such a good season to be a solo player.
- 43:37I'm sorry, I'm supposed to be telling you guys things that are
- 43:39actually happening. Heroic and mythic dungeons.
- 43:41They're going to switch to the season 1 pool, which is going to
- 43:44be Magisters Terrace, Mayasaura Caverns, Nexus Point, Zenith
- 43:49Wind, Wonder Runner Spire. That's all.
- 43:50The midnight ones, Algothar Academy, which is Dragonflight,
- 43:54Pit of Sauron, which is rather the Lich King seat of the of the
- 43:57Triumvirate, which is Legion. Jesus Christ.
- 44:00We're going to move right on past that one.
- 44:02And Skyreach, which is Warlords and the Mythic dungeons are
- 44:06going to go to a daily reset. World bosses are going to hit
- 44:10their weekly rotation. World's going to get Nightmare
- 44:13for Prey Sean. So we're going to have fun with
- 44:15this. And we're going to get normal,
- 44:19heroic and Raid Finder open for Voidspire and the Dream Rift
- 44:23only Wing 1 is going to open for Voidspire in Raid Finder.
- 44:28You guys content? Very excited.
- 44:32I, I'm excited too. I, I'm glad that we have this
- 44:36one extra week. I don't know, I just, I feel
- 44:39like I'm kind of hitting my stride.
- 44:41I'm running 2 characters that I'm actually going to raid with
- 44:46and do Mythic plus with, which is I know like a pittance for
- 44:50Sean. Well, not it's not true, Sean,
- 44:52you're only doing one more that you said you're going to
- 44:54actively push with, but on NA though, right?
- 44:57So you're going to actually have.
- 44:59I'll have 3 characters it I mean it depends on the frame of
- 45:03reference. So I'll have one character that
- 45:05I'm actively spamming mythic plus with on NA, one character
- 45:09that I will do 8 plus 10s with or maybe plus twelves with on
- 45:13EU. And then he's not rating on that
- 45:16character. I'm not rating on that
- 45:17character. I might do splits for a team and
- 45:19just be a body And then on NAI will have there's a my prop out
- 45:24and who I'm tanking with on my AOTC team will be he'll he will
- 45:29do probably 4 mythic plus dungeons.
- 45:31I'll probably try and get him four 10's and then my 4th
- 45:34character will just the goal will be 110 a week and then fill
- 45:38my vault with my my delve row with prey and delves.
- 45:43I recognize that the things that I'm saying, like the character
- 45:47that I've listed as my 4th throwaway character, is what
- 45:50some people will strive to do for their their main goals.
- 45:54My friend who listens to the show last season texted me that
- 45:58was the the IT was at it was the the episode we recorded after
- 46:02the first week of the raid. When I had gotten KS, I had
- 46:04already gotten KSM and AOTC and he said my seasonal goals You've
- 46:08completed this weekend. I was, I was going to say with
- 46:10the one that you were like 10 + 8.
- 46:13I was like, yeah, that's probably about what I'm aiming
- 46:15for as well. And then I realized you met per
- 46:17week. Yeah, yeah.
- 46:21So we'll see what happens. It's just I 'cause my main is my
- 46:26warrior on NA, he's who I'm mythic rating on.
- 46:29So he will be the one that like hard spams mythic plus until he
- 46:34has Bis mythic plus drops anyway.
- 46:36So probably by the end of the second week I'll be able to swap
- 46:39into another character, another tank doing that and then just
- 46:42put him in maintenance mode. OK, but I'm a degenerate.
- 46:45I am, I know I'm a sweat. I'm a dirty filthy sweat.
- 46:48I'm I get it, I I get it. I talked about collectors
- 46:52earlier the same way that they probably talk about me and the
- 46:55people that play like me and I get it.
- 46:57And if you told me, hey, we're going to put these three mythic
- 47:01plus dungeons on the shop and you're going to pay for them and
- 47:04there's 750 Hertz steel. I'd be best too, but I'd pay it.
- 47:10I don't know, I don't fucking think what plus dungeons, Sorry
- 47:13mounts end, but regardless. I under like I recognize the
- 47:18hypocrisy people. I need you to know that if
- 47:20you're still listening after earlier and you're somebody who
- 47:25isn't like collectors are just they are just as hardcore as
- 47:30race the world first Raiders. Like you know, Miri's is posting
- 47:33the level 25 people, the 90. I guarantee you there's
- 47:36collectors who do the same thing or damn well close to it or
- 47:38spent, you know, 100 hours just doing lumber.
- 47:42You're just as deranged. But you do have to pick a side
- 47:46because as we all know, you can't be a collector and.
- 47:51Specifically mounts. You can't specific mounts that
- 47:55can be a mount collector. Then as a as a wannabe real
- 48:03player I'm going to be running 2 characters through mythic plus.
- 48:09Definitely want to fill up the vault with the whatever the cap
- 48:17is that I can that I can achieve.
- 48:19Currently my warlocks actually, I think basically the same gear
- 48:24level as my shaman. Both of them are around
- 48:292:35-ish. And so I'm happy with it so far.
- 48:33But I think it's going to be quite the effort when we get
- 48:36into the main season. So that's why I was referencing
- 48:39like how much you're you're going to, how many characters
- 48:42you're going to hold up. Can I give you a tip?
- 48:44Can Ioffer some advice? I would love a tip because I did
- 48:46ask you when I was streaming and I did ask a couple of people.
- 48:49I'm like, what should I do? How should I do this?
- 48:52And and so like, let's hear this advice, please.
- 48:55Your shaman is your main. You have a push group that you
- 48:58run with your shaman I assume? Yes.
- 49:02I would say only run mythic for for the first week.
- 49:06For March 24th, only run mythic plus on your shaman until you
- 49:11have gotten. If you can get the plus 10s,
- 49:14you've got an 8 plus 10s, whatever the cap is that you can
- 49:16get to in that week with your group.
- 49:18If it's only eights and it's only eights, whatever the cap
- 49:20is, only run your shaman until you have gotten 3 slots in your
- 49:25vault of that cap on your warlock that week.
- 49:29You should aim to fill your delve slots your your world
- 49:33slots with either three slots of +8 delves or sleep three slot a
- 49:37combination of that and nightmare prey so that he's at
- 49:40least getting a hero track piece from the vault.
- 49:43And it's important. And you should also do this on
- 49:44your on your shaman because tier pieces matter more than anything
- 49:48else in that first that first week.
- 49:50So even if there's a mythic track item, you may be better
- 49:52off taking a tier piece of a tier pieces in your hero slot.
- 49:55And then if your mythic plus group is open to it, you should
- 50:03each of you try to cycle through one key of whatever your Max
- 50:06level is on your alts. So you get 7 of your eight that
- 50:11you need on your shaman it with your full group.
- 50:15And then the next one that you run one of your groups cycles
- 50:18out their main for their alt so that their alt then gets one
- 50:23track of that highest level. If the highest level you're
- 50:26getting is still just giving hero track gear.
- 50:29So if you're not getting plus 10s, you can drop that entirely
- 50:33because hero track in the in the mythic plus vault is just as
- 50:36good as hero track in the bottom bolt.
- 50:38And you don't you want to avoid burnout.
- 50:40That's going to be the key is to avoid burnout.
- 50:41So if you can get the plus 10s, that's awesome.
- 50:44If you can do 8 plus 10s to fill your track, that's better.
- 50:48And then if you can get 1 + 10, if you can get your your mythic
- 50:51plus group to give to it, it'll be a carry.
- 50:54But to take your alt into a plus 10s that you're you're alt then
- 50:58has one possible mythic track piece.
- 51:00And on both of those characters, no matter what, fill that world
- 51:03slot for that first week. And then whatever you get in the
- 51:05raid is fine. That's going to be the best bet
- 51:09for people that are not mythic rating.
- 51:11And especially they're not in like the if you're not going
- 51:13into the mythic raid in that first week of March 24th, if
- 51:17your Guild is not doing that, you're going to get so much more
- 51:19value from trying to push 2 plus 10s in mythic plus then you will
- 51:24from anything else. But always target tier in those
- 51:27first couple weeks because you want to get the faster you get
- 51:29the four piece, the more damage you do, the better you are off
- 51:31you are. Yeah, that's I mean, that's
- 51:35advice for anybody, even if you're only running 1 character,
- 51:37if you're just running 1 character and you're not a
- 51:39mythic grader, if you're a mythic grader and you're anybody
- 51:43who gets CE in the you know, the world top 500 rank, you don't
- 51:47need any of this. Your GM or Ray lead has probably
- 51:49already given you tons of advice and a step by step guide.
- 51:52Go find the Larious Raiders guide and just follow that.
- 51:55But anybody who's in a heroic rating team or lower or in a
- 51:59late, very late CE mythic team or just like a team that just
- 52:03does sort of a little bit of mythic, try to focus on pushing
- 52:07that mythic plus level to A10 if you can get it, because every
- 52:12week you can get a myth track piece out of the vault is a is a
- 52:14benefit there. You go.
- 52:19That is advice that I'm probably going to take the heart.
- 52:21I really do want to avoid burnout because like this is
- 52:24like the first time I'm actually like trying to juggle
- 52:27characters. So even if it it's some piece of
- 52:32that, I think that everybody should try and avoid burnout.
- 52:35Like it's it's great. We're all feast in here.
- 52:37We're loving it. Lex is saying this is this is
- 52:40the single player haven for this little bit but like that content
- 52:47is going to be there. Don't burn yourself out from
- 52:50both ends of the spectrum and from non real players like me.
- 52:54But until. And don't hold on, don't also
- 52:56don't feel bad if you if you can't get because I, I realize
- 52:58that I'm saying this and people are like, well, what if I can't?
- 53:00What if I can only get a plus somebody?
- 53:02If it doesn't, if whatever you can get to is good, do whatever
- 53:05you can do. It's not like, Oh, I didn't get
- 53:07a 10. My season's over.
- 53:09Do whatever you can do. I was just sort of giving nanny
- 53:13tires because I know the level Manny usually lives at.
- 53:18OK, but until next time guys me all your hits we crits.