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Gilmore Girls Gazette: Parenthood: A Web of of Wrong Doings (Season 2 E17 “Do Not Sleep with Your Autistic Nephew's Therapist”) · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I am all in again. Oh, let's Gilmore Girls Gazette
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  Speaker 1: with Amy Sugarman and Danielle Romo, an iHeartRadio podcast.
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  Speaker 2: We take you back to February twenty second, twenty eleven
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  Speaker 2: two two two one one, a numerologist holiday, a day
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  Speaker 2: that uh was a sad day in the world. There
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  Speaker 2: was a big earthquake in christ Church, New Zealand, a
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  Speaker 2: deadly earthquake while we here in America were settling on
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  Speaker 2: the couch to watch Parenthood. And what a fine episode
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  Speaker 2: this was Born this way by Lady Gaga was blasting
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  Speaker 2: out of our radios as the number one song in
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  Speaker 2: America as we enjoyed this episode, which I thought was
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  Speaker 2: an excellent episode.
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  Speaker 3: First of all, your research is a ten. I can't
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  Speaker 3: thank you enough for the extra effort, and this episode
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  Speaker 3: was a ten. Thanks so much for joining us.
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  Speaker 2: It was fantastic, and there's so much to discuss and
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  Speaker 2: get into, so many great performances.
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  Speaker 3: One of your favorite things that I'm trying to do
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  Speaker 3: right now, and I feel like we're pulling it off
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  Speaker 3: talking at the same time but still being able to
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  Speaker 3: hear each.
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  Speaker 2: Other like Parenthood does so be.
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  Speaker 3: There was like nine scenes of that this time. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: So it's a ten. There's a lot to talk about,
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  Speaker 3: and I think we will disagree on things too. So
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna let you decide where we begin.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we're I think we begin in my notes, I
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  Speaker 2: start with, well, Crosby, the episode begins with Crosby. We're
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  Speaker 2: going to start with sleep.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to start with the big guns, Rude that
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  Speaker 3: he left, Rude that he left, Like, let's start with that.
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  Speaker 3: That was that was not cool, that was harsh.
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  Speaker 2: No, definitely, Second, it's over. The regret seeps in.
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  Speaker 3: And also they needed to just talk about it. I
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  Speaker 3: actually think if they would have talked about it, he
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  Speaker 3: would have stayed, they would have talked about it. Maybe
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  Speaker 3: we wouldn't have the issue that we had.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe maybe we.
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  Speaker 3: Had a giant implosion partly because he left and they
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  Speaker 3: didn't talk about it, like they could have maybe been
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  Speaker 3: like easy breezy, it happened the you know, you've got
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  Speaker 3: to work, blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 2: Except she has feelings, so I'm not sure it could
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  Speaker 2: you be just eazy.
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  Speaker 3: Breezy correct, But I do think that maybe if there
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  Speaker 3: was a conversation, it could have gone differently. I just
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  Speaker 3: think it could have gone differently. So, okay, were they
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  Speaker 3: both wrong? Or was Crosby only wrong? Was anyone wrong?
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  Speaker 2: They're both wrong?
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  Speaker 3: So you feel like because of the relationship between Minka, Kelly,
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  Speaker 3: Gabby and Max and the Braverman family, Adam and Christina
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  Speaker 3: to be specific, she crossed the line by sleeping with
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  Speaker 3: the brother.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, you can't sleep with the clients relative.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna say it's dicey territory, but I'm not going
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  Speaker 3: to give you a hard noe on it.
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  Speaker 2: Not gonna get it's a hard note. I would say fault.
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  Speaker 2: You're looking at sixty forty Crosby, maybe sixty five thirty five.
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  Speaker 2: But Gabby's got to take her share of.
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  Speaker 3: This, Okay, sure, sure, fair?
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  Speaker 2: Next, hold do the synopsis. I mean, what are we doing?
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  Speaker 1: All right?
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  Speaker 2: Crosby pays the price here we go for a mistake
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  Speaker 2: that will change his relationships with those closest to him.
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  Speaker 2: Adam gets annoyed with Alex's frequent visits. Meanwhile, Adam and
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  Speaker 2: Christina are forced to deal with a huge problem that
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  Speaker 2: will affect Max's progress. Elsewhere, Drew has hit with some
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  Speaker 2: disappointing news from his father, while Sydney makes a decision.
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  Speaker 2: Her parents, Julia and Joel, are supportive of Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Remain storylines here. Yes, Crosby, Sarah and John Corbett's the whole,
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  Speaker 3: that whole deal and then the vegetarian thing, which.
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  Speaker 2: Was so good.
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  Speaker 3: But we'll get to that.
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  Speaker 2: But it's like the light, it's like the you need
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  Speaker 2: a little palette. But then there was like some meat
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  Speaker 2: to it was very good with.
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  Speaker 3: Zeke and Camille. Okay, let's go back to Crosby. Should
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  Speaker 3: Crosby have told everybody right away? Should he have never
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  Speaker 3: told anybody.
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  Speaker 2: Once he crossed the line? I mean, I guess credit
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  Speaker 2: to him for coming clean, right, I mean, you don't
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  Speaker 2: want to carry that the rest of your life.
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  Speaker 3: Should he really should have talked to Gabby to figure
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  Speaker 3: out the situation.
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  Speaker 2: On that, but still need Nonetheless, it happened.
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  Speaker 3: So was Gabby wrong to tell Christina?
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  Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. Christina pushed her, she did,
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  Speaker 2: she definitely did.
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  Speaker 3: I think that hold on, I'm getting my I got
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  Speaker 3: to get my massaged hold on.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, when we're going a little fast here, because
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  Speaker 2: we're missing a couple of things.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, I realized this episode.
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  Speaker 2: Look at that contraption. It looks.
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  Speaker 3: Here's why I realized this episode was sort of had
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  Speaker 3: a lot of feelings around it, and I'm not going
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  Speaker 3: to be able to truly focus if my back muscle
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  Speaker 3: is just messing me up. So everything's changed for me
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  Speaker 3: now because now I've got my massager going into my
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  Speaker 3: menopause muscles. Okay, was Christina right to go over there?
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  Speaker 2: Yes? Christina, yes, yes, she wants to keep Gabby. However
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  Speaker 2: she can whatever the problem is, she can solve it.
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  Speaker 2: That's her mind.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think Gabby was trying to do the
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  Speaker 3: right thing by going over there. Clearly she had sort
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  Speaker 3: of a letter. She did it in person. That was all.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to give you a big picture. Crosby's probably
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  Speaker 3: more to blame. It was. Was Crosby right to tell.
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  Speaker 2: Jasmine, absolutely, you have.
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  Speaker 3: To Jasmine's reaction warranted.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was exactly correct reaction.
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  Speaker 3: It was a little extreme.
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  Speaker 2: He slept with another woman, they're engaged. Oh, here we
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  Speaker 2: go with this again.
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  Speaker 3: They were on like they were. Ross and Rachel were
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  Speaker 3: definitely on a break. They were on like a maybe.
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  Speaker 2: A break has to be verbally established, and.
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  Speaker 3: Fine, I'm gonna give it to you. It's a whole
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  Speaker 3: it's a whole hot mess.
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  Speaker 2: It's a hot mess. And he had to tell her
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  Speaker 2: and he I don't even remember where this goes, honestly,
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  Speaker 2: so I'm kind of intrigued to find out. But I'm
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  Speaker 2: glad he told her and she had the correct reaction,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't think she could marry him after this,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't think so, yeah, that's right.
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  Speaker 3: Well, wow, all right, okay, where do we net out
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  Speaker 3: on this mess? And then the mess it ends with
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  Speaker 3: Max learning he has aspergers. Yes, that was big, which
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  Speaker 3: is really called autism spectrum. Well, we'll call it Asperger's
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  Speaker 3: because that's what they say in the show. But I
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  Speaker 3: do think it's an antiquated term now and we need
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  Speaker 3: to check that that's right.
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  Speaker 2: And unfortunate for doctor Asperger, who was was named after that,
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  Speaker 2: he's being shuttled away.
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  Speaker 3: Like we need to look that up.
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  Speaker 2: There were a couple of things we missed that At
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  Speaker 2: the beginning, Alex was teaching Max the drop pop game,
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  Speaker 2: which is something I taught my kids and oh yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: They hold the ball over the underside of your elbow
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  Speaker 2: and you pop it up in the air. My kids
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  Speaker 2: are pros at that. And the friends are baffled by it,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm so proud that I taught them that.
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  Speaker 3: So that was let me give you, let me give
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  Speaker 3: you a little information.
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  Speaker 2: Please.
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  Speaker 3: Asperger syndrome is no longer used in clinical practice because
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  Speaker 3: there's an overlap with autism spectrum disorder. This is very
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  Speaker 3: in the weeds. I'm not going to bore everybody call
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  Speaker 3: it now A. Yeah, there were misconceptions and stigma with
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  Speaker 3: the term Aspergers. There's a lot of reasons, so we'll
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  Speaker 3: just suffice it to say we don't know what we're
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  Speaker 3: going to call it.
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  Speaker 2: That was a powerful scene when he was like, because that's.
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  Speaker 3: What term they use. Yeah, and we had talked about
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  Speaker 3: that in an episode prior where they knew they that
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  Speaker 3: he didn't know, and I think Adam sort of says
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  Speaker 3: something to the effect of, I'll tell him when he
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  Speaker 3: asks about it.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Well, well, here we.
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  Speaker 3: Are now side tangent. Is Adam overreacting about.
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  Speaker 2: Ash I don't think so, I think me, Well, Alex, Yes,
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  Speaker 2: he's overreacting about Alex. Yes, I agree, he's not overreacting
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  Speaker 2: about Crosby.
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  Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, Well I thought Christina handled it
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  Speaker 3: better and I actually was surprised by how Christina was
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  Speaker 3: sort of like, calm down, calm down.
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  Speaker 2: Right, But it is his brother. If this, if I
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  Speaker 2: were Adam, I they could have reacted very similarly because
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  Speaker 2: his devil may care, lifestyle, his whatever, and now it
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  Speaker 2: is affecting Max, and.
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  Speaker 3: Max you're messing with you're messing with my kid. That's
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  Speaker 3: kind of the thing that the parent is not, especially
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  Speaker 3: with a sibling. Yes you're because you're kind of have
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  Speaker 3: the guard down with your siblings, so you can just
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  Speaker 3: say it like it is.
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  Speaker 2: Especially the same sex siblings like that. And also Adam
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  Speaker 2: and Crosby already weren't in a good place because they
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  Speaker 2: were fighting in the basketball court or right.
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  Speaker 3: Well, also because Crosby's imploding, we could have some Look,
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  Speaker 3: I have some sympathy. I don't know if it's empathy
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  Speaker 3: or sympathy, but I have it for Crosby because he's
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  Speaker 3: struggling and no one's really curing him. They're glossing over it.
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  Speaker 3: They're sort of saying to him like, oh, you're fine,
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  Speaker 3: this is a great girl, You're fine, when he's like,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not fine, wasn't fine?
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  Speaker 2: What's going on? What are you empathizing with? What is
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  Speaker 2: he going with?
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  Speaker 3: Because I think that he's losing himself. He's a different
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  Speaker 3: kind of guy than Adam. And on top of that,
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  Speaker 3: I do think Jasmine was being kind of a bit controlling,
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  Speaker 3: and we know that about her, and it's oil and water.
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  Speaker 3: He's a spirit. You know, know who you marry, know
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  Speaker 3: who you're marrying, know who you're dating, and have some
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  Speaker 3: grace for that, adjustment for that. Like, if you are
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  Speaker 3: marrying someone that's more of a free spirit, being totally
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  Speaker 3: controlling is probably not your best move.
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  Speaker 2: Is sure, that's fine. I just don't know that he's
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  Speaker 2: going through that much. I don't know. I don't have
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  Speaker 2: as much empathy for him as you do. I understand
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  Speaker 2: that he feels like his fiance's being controlling. Wow Wow,
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  Speaker 2: wha doesn't give you the ride to go sleep.
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  Speaker 3: He tried to talk about it with her and she
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  Speaker 3: just wouldn't and she really reacted harshly and then was
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  Speaker 3: sort of like get out. She didn't quite say that,
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  Speaker 3: but there was sort of a I don't want to
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  Speaker 3: be near you type of vibe. And then he came
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  Speaker 3: back and tried to talk about it a couple times.
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  Speaker 3: Then she bails the birthday, like again. Sixty forty girlsby.
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  Speaker 2: Going through some stuff with your girlfriend. Fine, but it's
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  Speaker 2: not like he's going through stuff in a grand sense.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't have that much sympathy for cars.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's coming grand. If I'm going to be honest,
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  Speaker 3: I kind of think it's grand. I think when I
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  Speaker 3: think for men, maybe especially, but I think suddenly you
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  Speaker 3: find out you have a kid, which she.
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  Speaker 2: Kept from a big deal. But that was a while back,
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  Speaker 2: a year back, Okay.
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  Speaker 3: All right, you're maybe a year and a half. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know she kept that from him. There's going to
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  Speaker 3: be some sort of damage there. So he's suddenly a dad.
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  Speaker 3: He's dating her, now he's getting married. It's a lot.
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  Speaker 3: Leaving the boat, it's a lot, and I just feel
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  Speaker 3: like nobody because it doesn't seem like a lot to
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  Speaker 3: the rest of the Braverman's they don't care, especially Adam,
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  Speaker 3: maybe Julia. They don't see it. Maybe Sarah gets it
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  Speaker 3: a little more anyway, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I do want to point out I thought Dak Shepherd
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  Speaker 2: was excellent in this episode. I thought the scene where
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  Speaker 2: he confessed to Jasmine, he was really really strong.
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  Speaker 3: In that great. He's really good it's funny. It's almost
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  Speaker 3: like there's two Dak Shepherds, because this guy is so
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  Speaker 3: different than the podcast guy. I like both versions. You know,
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  Speaker 3: there's the host Dac Shepherd podcast guy. But he was
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  Speaker 3: very good actor in Parenthood.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know that he.
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  Speaker 3: Was as good in some of his other movies or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I can't. I don't remember any of those chips.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I came to my mind. Okay, maybe
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  Speaker 2: you're right.
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  Speaker 3: You know, he started on that Ashton Kutscher show. Don't
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  Speaker 3: tell me what it's called.
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  Speaker 2: Punk okay, oh oh yeah, that's right.
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  Speaker 3: He was like no one, He wasn't famous, so it
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  Speaker 3: was so good. He could really punk people because no
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  Speaker 3: one knew who he was. What do you want to
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  Speaker 3: go to next?
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  Speaker 2: Julia to Julia? Yeah, Julian and Joel.
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  Speaker 3: I love the fact that that darling kids and her
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  Speaker 3: cute bangs has decided she's a vegetarian.
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  Speaker 2: You know him, my daughter, one of your kids, very
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  Speaker 2: young age. You know, we saw a movie called The
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  Speaker 2: Biggest Little Farm. Okay, it was what it is called.
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  Speaker 2: We when saw that movie. It was all about farm animals,
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  Speaker 2: and when that was over, she said, I'm not eating
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  Speaker 2: animals anymore. I'm done.
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  Speaker 3: And did she eat animals?
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  Speaker 2: Now? It completely stuck. She has not eaten since that movie.
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  Speaker 2: And what was that movie? I was eight eight, nine
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  Speaker 2: years ago.
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  Speaker 3: Probably didn't you guys have to start cooking different meals.
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  Speaker 2: To a degree? Yeah? We did, yeah, yeah, and I
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  Speaker 2: remember we went from that movie to veggie grill for dinner. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's hard animals. Right, we did. But ever since, she's
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  Speaker 2: been very strict about it, and we're very supportive of that.
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  Speaker 2: That was just seven years.
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  Speaker 3: Ago, right, I'm totally totally supportive. Now I have a
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  Speaker 3: story that I'm going to tell. Please, please do not
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  Speaker 3: come at me for this. Oh boy, bless my niece. So,
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  Speaker 3: my niece also had a similar experience to Sydney that
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  Speaker 3: a friend became a vegetarian, so she became a vegetarian.
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  Speaker 3: Then she was a vegetarian who ate bacon. I was like,
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  Speaker 3: I'm a vegetarian except when we go to a meat place,
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  Speaker 3: and her sisters were kind of like, she's trying, right,
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  Speaker 3: She's trying. She definitely was like a vegetarian who also
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  Speaker 3: ate hot dogs from time to time in a football game.
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  Speaker 3: But then finally and this is something kind of interesting
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  Speaker 3: for kids that are vegetarians. The doctor actually said this
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  Speaker 3: kid cannot be a vegetarian because she was getting way
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  Speaker 3: too thin. She was not eating enough protein, probably so
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  Speaker 3: it did not stick for her, although I appreciated what
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  Speaker 3: she was trying, right, she also was a kid who
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  Speaker 3: for a time didn't want to give a hug, and
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  Speaker 3: then now she gives ugs again. We just let her
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  Speaker 3: do it, We let her go through it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Zeek's reaction probably wasn't what they would recommend.
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  Speaker 3: Although it's very of that time. And look, he didn't
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  Speaker 3: say you must eat meat. He wasn't like, here's a
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  Speaker 3: chicken wing and shoving down her throat. He said, your
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  Speaker 3: grandmother has now made you two meals satan, which I
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  Speaker 3: did laugh out loud. It laughed out, what is satan?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know's that's a good question.
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  Speaker 3: It looked gray, looks a little gross, sorry, lovers.
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  Speaker 2: It's made from gluten.
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  Speaker 3: The main Well, first of all, that seems like that
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  Speaker 3: sounds gross right there.
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  Speaker 2: It's a meat substitute due to its chewy texture and
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  Speaker 2: savory flavor.
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  Speaker 3: Oh s E, I t a n You know, I'm
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  Speaker 3: not crazy about anything that's called a meat substitute.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that doesn't kind of great again, I.
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  Speaker 3: Don't need any kind of oprah action with the beef
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  Speaker 3: industry or the satan industry. So to each their own,
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  Speaker 3: but I'd go with the vegetables, the beans, the whole
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  Speaker 3: thing there. That being said, he took the lasagna but
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  Speaker 3: looked very delicious, and I don't eat cheese, and I
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  Speaker 3: really wanted to eat that lasagna and said, just pick
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  Speaker 3: and she's all have dessert, which.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no, right, we're going to sit here all day.
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  Speaker 2: And then it was on and he's like, all right when.
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  Speaker 1: She just.
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  Speaker 3: Sydney is just all Julia, and Joel is just the
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  Speaker 3: sweetest there isn't. First of all, Joel is the what
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  Speaker 3: is the word forgotten hero?
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  Speaker 1: Like?
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  Speaker 3: I love Joel. By the way, there's a bug that's
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  Speaker 3: been crawling around my wall the whole time, and somehow
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  Speaker 3: it's just so distracting to me. Why not kill that?
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  Speaker 2: You got up and got your.
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  Speaker 3: I try not to kill bugs.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, very, I will do it.
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  Speaker 3: I will do it. I know those that really did
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  Speaker 3: not appreciate the mouse getting flushed on the toilet. I
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: don't know if anyone remembers not storry scroll back. I
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  Speaker 3: definitely try to let spiders go because I heard they
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  Speaker 3: do a lot of good. It doesn't always happen, but
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  Speaker 3: I definitely don't. I don't kill bees. Their bees are crucial.
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  Speaker 2: Bees are I get sad when I see a.
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  Speaker 3: Dead b I believe we all die if we don't
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  Speaker 3: have bees.
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  Speaker 2: Or yes, if the bees next let him live.
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  Speaker 3: A mosquito though, I'm not going to tolerate. Nope, it's
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: just some sort of little buggy. But I got three
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: in the house right now. I don't know how they
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: got him.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: Well you should name them.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: Tom Dick and Harry.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: There they are.
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: First of all, if you're young, you're not going to
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: get that at all. Like, can you imagine young people
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: that are like.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: Tom Dick and Harry an expression anymore?
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: To find that out? Original? And Harry, where does Tom?
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: Well you look that up. I did enjoy Zeke confessing
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: to eating dog in Vietnam. That was funny, disturbing, but funny.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: And Camille's like, you can't let the kid feel like
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: she has all the power. It's backwards. That's actually pretty
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: solid advice right there.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: Zeke was not wrong, right, well, maybe he was being
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: Zeke about it and Julia and Joel are not Zeke.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: Camille was right, and how about Zeke being sort of
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: so happy and the way he came and he breast
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: it and then they bound bound bound in the laundry room. Now,
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: I was hoping someone was going to kiss you. Have
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: they not kissed?
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: That's what? And by the way, that was my thought
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: is I never want to get to that point in
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: my marriage where I go that long without kissing my wife.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: That it's right, like even when you're going But yeah,
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: they got into it. It came back to them real fast.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: Somebody to walk in so bad? All lah when Joel
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: and Julia, Tom Dick and Harry comes from the use
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: of common sixteenth and century, sixteenth and seventeenth century names
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: to represent ordinary random people. So what would it be now,
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: like Ashton, Tyler, Tyler and Colby. I don't know anyway, Okay,
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: like my nieces. If you said to my baby like
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: little nieces.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: Tom Dick and Harry, Harry, Yeah, that's weird.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: You'd have to be like Max, you know, Wyatt and Cooper. Anyway,
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: let's talk about sets. Looking at a little greasy again.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Here we go.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: He went back to greasy. See, here's what I thought
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: about in the shower. Obviously I just got out.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: Here's what I don't think about. It's been years since
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: I've seen you, not fresh out of the shower. You
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: know that person.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: I have a strange schedule because I slat. I went
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: to bed at like one thirty, woke up at seven,
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: did emails till nine, fell back to sleep from nine
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: to ten thirty. Thence why I had to push this
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: back because I had to take a shower, because if
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: I don't take the shower, because what I do is
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: I have meetings and phone calls starting at ten thirty
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: all the way through. Luckily today it was eleven. Had
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: to move this to eleven ten. No one cares, but
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: it's you know, and I want to hear your people's schedules.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: So you're in bed with your laptop.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: Is that what? Yeah?
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: And then you finished that round, you slam it shot
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: and you hit right back to the pillow.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: Right to the point that I dreamed. I had from
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: between nine and ten thirty. I had multiple dreams, means
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: that I can remember. I literally was like wow, and
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: I almost in it was a good job because I
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: don't get enough sleep. So when I get that. I
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: guess a good job you did. I'm not going to
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: beat myself up over that. It's a it's a good
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: job because I have to get eight and a half
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: hours now menopose.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: Wow. But what disturbs me about you is that there
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: is no time of day that I can text you
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: that you don't respond. I feel like that's too attached
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: to your phone.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: Thank you, But also, what am I going to do
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: about it?
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, I get it, but I guess adjust your
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: schedule to be more like the other humans of the world.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: But okay, I know, but I have a menopause minute
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: today that it's going to be. For those listening, wait
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: stick around till the end, because the menopause minute today
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: is pretty exceptional and I'm needing support through it, and
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: so I'm hoping people respond. Okay, let's talk about Amber.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Andrew may Whitman excellent in that scene, gives into discess,
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: looks great, but when she really gives it as sath,
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: she was so good the way she was fighting back tears.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: Here's what I feel. They're both right. They're both right. Yes,
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: they both had a dad that left right and Drew
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: is responding saying, but he's here now, and I want
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: to experience it, enjoy it. I don't want to be mad.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: I want to like it. And may whitman. Amber is like,
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: we had a dad who left. Screw this guy. I'm
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: so hurt by it. I'm so mad.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Also, right, Yeah, they're feelings, right, valid especially hers because
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: she's older she remembers more.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: Of the Yeah, but he's got a deal, meaning Seth
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: with the situation. Now. Amber did not cause Seth to leave,
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: although the pain of her thinking that, right, oh, you
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: feel like maybe.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: It pushed Yeah, I'm sure he was going to leave eventually,
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: but I think he found a way out after that.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: That makes Seth a real you were it does.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: But the discomfort in that scene, first when he gives
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: it the guitar and she's not interested, and then when
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: she just gives it to him that this show does
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: discomfort so well, god so.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: And then first of all, you're kind of enjoying him
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: cutting the chicken and you see him washing his hands.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: You know he's gonna stick around. Drew's loving it, even
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: Sarah's enjoying it. And then the face of Sarah who's
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: just like, I'm in shock. I don't know what to do.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: Everybody's wrong, everybody's right. I don't know what to do.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: I'm just frozen.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then he and then he goes to her
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: and says, you know, something came up. I gotta get
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: out of here. And she says the.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: Speech at the bar was good. Though. When she goes back.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Out, you're going to be there tomorrow morning, yeah, and you.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: Won't be late. At first, I was sort of disappointed,
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: like she's just taking it. But when you get when
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: you have someone like a Seth who repeatedly does this,
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: you learn also fighting back and trying to prove what's right.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: Is this a total waste of time?
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: And then they had a beautiful moment. He came back,
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: he said goodbye, and then Seth and Sarah had a
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: nice they hugged.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: Good acting by John Corbett.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Tear tear is good.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: John Corbett is the right guy to play set.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: I guess that's true.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah he is.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: He's not too scusy, scuzy, but not too scusy. But
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: the tear thing. You know, there was a time in
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: my life I thought I could be an actor. Didn't
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: work out.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: You know, whatever, can you cry?
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: I don't think I could ever produce a tear on demand.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: I always think of Matt Damon and Goodwill hunting.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: That right now, if you want to roll down the cheek,
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: and that's so impressive to me. I can't right now,
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: only because I'm just like I have to gear myself
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: up a little bit. But like I could, I could
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: totally do that, Like.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: I see, I could see myself. I could get misty,
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: I could get wet eyed. But I don't think I
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: could produce a physical tear rolling down my face.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: I think I could ball like a baby if I Yeah,
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: I actually really really really do because I am always
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: how do I explain this? I have so much that
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: at any moment I kind of need to come out.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, that's what this is.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: This is just anxiety in my neck.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Right that she went stress and then the Muscle Rocks implement,
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: and then the great scene with Drew and Amber when
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Amber says song She's sorry, and Drew says the quote
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: if he was a real dad, nothing you could have said, Yeah,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: it made him leave.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: Yep, yes, beautiful, and they said mom's here basically, yeah,
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: she's not going anywhere. They kind of giggle, and then
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: she does the song small fingers, small toes or something
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: like that. Yes, her eyes, my nose. It's not even
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: a great song.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: We totally know it.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: We know it very And then a montage. I love
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: a montage.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: We need to know who wrote that song in actuality.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: And then we're to assume that Sarah's writing songs right
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: sitting on the floor.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah yeah.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: I mean this is a ten. This is a ten episode.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: I cried, I got tiary. I was thinking I was
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: gonna do a couple of things. Couldn't stop watching it.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: I'm going to nine point eight. I didn't cry because
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: I didn't cry.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: Oh I am.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: I did.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: And here's what happens to me. I go, I'm gonna
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: watch fifteen minutes. I'm gonna go do a few things
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: and I'll come back. Nope, she just sat there.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: For the whole thing. Small fingers, small toes, your forehead,
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: my nose. Yeah, no matter how far away you are
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: for me tonight, it's all right. By the way, the
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: chords are at Ultimate Guitar dot Com. To get into this,
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: the internet icon't it's amazing so good.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: What who wrote it?
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Though?
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Well, let's see if that's out there, because.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: I if it says Seth and Sarah, I will wet
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: my pants.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Uh, I don't think, not.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: Knowing it's maybe like it maybe like Bachelor art. So
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: you know my story about the Bachelor. They paint the
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: art for the show so they don't have to clear it.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: So somebody is hired to paint the art, and I
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: have a painting from the Bachelor and they change it out.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: So I have a painting from the Bachelor Mansion and
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: the painting's amazing. Would anybody want to see it?
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: I would like to see it.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: Put it on the gram as. First of all, I
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: saw Kim Kardashian saying IG. So is that what the cool?
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: It's ig? Okay?
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let me bring this up really nice for everybody. Jackie,
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: I will send this to you so people can understand
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: what Bachelor art is. Okay, should we do the menopause
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: minute before?
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: It's all original art in the Bachelor Mansion.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because then they don't have to clear it. So
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: let me tell you. So I have a plan based
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: on that because we're always building studios and we have
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: meat art in the studios. So my aunt, my aunt
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: Sherry shout Out is a paint is an artist. She's
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: a painter. I don't know you call it artist. She's
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: kind of retired from it, but she has tons of paintings.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: So I've got them all over my house.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: Well let me see it. I mean, you just sent
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: it and you're not letting me.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: This is bachelor art, not aunt cherry art.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: So, uh, this is your home right now? And what
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: is that room you're in. It's not like an office.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: This is my office, but it's very attached. It sounds
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: fancy like I have an office. It's sort of barn
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: door in to the living room, so like nobody can
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: be in the living room when I'm in here. But
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: it's like a little I like to call a little
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: den to take us back to the seventies. But it's
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: just But what happened was I used to face a
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: different direction and that wall actually has wallpaper, but you
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: can barely tell. It's a little hot. It's a little
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: white for the backdrop now but whatever.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: Okay, two fish to they look like they're orange and
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: white fish. Yeah, swimming next to each other, almost yang circle.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: And there was a pair to that painting, but Chris
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: Harrison's former wife ended up with that painting and it
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: got lost because I would have loved both. I just
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: took that out. It was a garage one day.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: It's a nice it's a nice photo, and go to it's.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: An amazing it's an amazing painting. So anyway, my aunt Cherry,
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: I'm getting a bunch of paintings from her because we
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: don't have to clear them.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Smart, And then we can put it the.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: Podcast studios, right because my aunt's not gonna sue me.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: And now it's time for the menopause minutes.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: Ladies of a certain age. This is my latest thing.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: So in my thirties and forties, I could go on
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: my walks and read my emails and respond while walking.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: Just I've noticed over the last year I would be
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: on my walk and I'd start to look at my
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: emails and it's start veering to the right. Whoa, and
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: I'm like it scared me. I was like, am I okay?
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: Like what is going on?
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: And I kind of thought, oh, maybe that's something's going
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: on there. The last few days I've noticed, oh my god,
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: if I try to read respond walk all at the
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: same time, look up, it's not dizzy. I don't get
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: dizzy dizzy. It would it's like whoa. It's almost like that,
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: almost like a carsick feeling.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: You're like, whoa.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: So of course I payan like because I'm like, what's
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: wrong with What's wrong with me?
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Now?
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: Google it and I'm basically like, I can't read my phone,
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: write emails and walk at the same time. And it's
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: called cybersickness or something. It has a name. But fun
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: fact for you when you go through menopause, when you're
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: in menopause, host menopause, you're balance? Is it because you
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: don't have estrogen? It kind of has something to do
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: with the inner ear and the whole thing, the balance thing.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: So it makes proper sense because I've had every test
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: in the book that I've in my blood work, every
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: doctor and this only occurs when I am walking fast
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: to read and write emails like never at home, never,
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: none of that.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you guysoud be careful if you're ever hiking
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: near a cliff side, because I've done that before and
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: you don't want to go veering off the cliff.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: Like you were reading your emails.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, I've just you just got off places
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: I've been hiking where I'd be like, oh geez, I
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: need a related focus here because I got a little
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: cloac less to the edge.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: That's a little vertigoy. I can't I don't really like
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: to be on like like I'm not the go out
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: on the balcony type look over.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Okay, sure that's not for me. That can mess with you.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: I would feel I'm almost feeling nauseous thinking about it.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Wow, all right, And actually a little bit of.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: Nausea can be a menopause symptom sometimes something to do
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: with the when I get the hot flash, it's almost
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: like wave of anxiety one minute, hint, tweak of nausea,
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: occasionally full sweat.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's great, it's great, really so great.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: It sounds like it's a real treat. All right. Next week,
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: Season two, Episode eighteen, Qualities and Difficulties. I feel like
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: we're heading towards the end of season two.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: I'm assuming there's twenty two episodes.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: I assume so so we got like five more so
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: I'll be able to get the end of the season
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: before Romo comes back.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah that's a good plan. Actually, yeah, miss can you
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: make an appearance from time to time? I'd be happy
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: to Three voices is not too many, I mean five
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: too many?
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Five too many. I agree.
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: We listen if you want to coming in January, so
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: we've got a lot. Or are the people excited about
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: listen if you want to. Now, no one is still
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: listening because they tuned out at the menopause minute. But
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: if there's one person looked that look great stuff ten.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: Great stuff nine point eight out.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Dot Hey everybody, and don't forget. Follow us on Instagram
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