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Episode #3969 The New Phil Hendrie Show Radio Archive April 2006 · The World of Phil Hendrie

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another Radio Archive Hour from the Radio Hall
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Speaker 1: of Fame Phil Hendry Show here at philhendryshow.com. We have
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Speaker 1: Doug Danger, our gay man and our gay journalist, and
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Speaker 1: this is from the month of May 2006.
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Speaker 2: April, actually, 2006.
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Speaker 1: Doug is a character that we came up with purposely
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Speaker 1: to antagonize and provoke straight people. He just absolutely wears
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Speaker 1: the fact that he is gay on his sleeve. Everything
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Speaker 1: he says is tagged with, I'm gay, I'm a gay journalist.
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Speaker 1: And he also claims a bit of superiority because of that.
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Speaker 1: All of that combined brings us to some pretty interesting confrontations.
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Speaker 1: Here is Doug on the show talking about who should
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Speaker 1: replace Katie Couric on the Today Show. He doesn't just
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Speaker 1: suggest it. He doesn't just say, let's take it for
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Speaker 1: a vote. He says it must be a black female
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Speaker 1: because he knows better. He's a gay man and a
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Speaker 1: gay journalist. Here's Doug Danger. I'm joined this hour by
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Speaker 1: the Orange County Courier entertainment reporter, Doug Danger.
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Speaker 2: Who has a scoop for us.
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Speaker 1: Doug, now, the news that Katie Couric is going to CBS,
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Speaker 1: that's not the scoop.
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Speaker 3: No, that is not the scoop, Phil, because that's been
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Speaker 3: known for a couple of days. I think Matt Drudge
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Speaker 3: broke it originally. Actually, I had the information. Matt and
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Speaker 3: I traded the information, but Matt had it up on
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Speaker 3: his website.
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Speaker 2: Katie Couric going to CBS to do what?
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Speaker 3: Katie, if Phil is going to be, my understanding is
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Speaker 3: she will anchor the 7 p.m. news, and she'll also
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Speaker 3: have a presence, and I don't know what that presence
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Speaker 3: will be, but she will have a significant presence on
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Speaker 3: the 60 Minutes program.
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Speaker 2: So Katie Couric going on to CBS.
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Speaker 1: But your column yesterday was about something else, and you
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Speaker 1: feel that there's a firestorm brewing, huh?
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Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you, there is a firestorm brewing. Not
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Speaker 3: if there's a firestorm. There is. I wrote yesterday in
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Speaker 3: my column that I felt NBC now has the ball.
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Speaker 3: They need to run with the ball now. Katie Couric
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Speaker 3: is leaving, and I don't think there should be a doubt.
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Speaker 3: I don't think there should be any questioning. I don't
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Speaker 3: think there should be any delay. I don't think there
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Speaker 3: should be any hesitation. And I'm saying this as a
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Speaker 3: gay man and as a gay journalist, not because I'm
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Speaker 3: a gay man and a gay journalist as a minority,
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Speaker 3: but because as a gay man and as a gay journalist,
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Speaker 3: I have seen how small groups in this country are treated.
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Speaker 3: And I think NBC has the opportunity. I think it
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Speaker 3: would take an imbecile, an absolute imbecile, not to see
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Speaker 3: the opportunity. And I wrote in my column yesterday, which
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Speaker 3: I called The Ball's in Your Court, NBC now must,
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Speaker 3: not should, not could, not maybe, they must hire as
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Speaker 3: the replacement for Katie Couric, an African-American female, to host
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Speaker 3: the Today Show. All right. Now, I wrote that yesterday
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Speaker 3: as a gay man, as a gay journalist, and I
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Speaker 3: did not receive one email criticizing or complaining. I did
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Speaker 3: not receive one email from the networks criticizing, complaining, or
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Speaker 3: even questioning what I was saying. And I didn't receive
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Speaker 3: one email from our readers questioning, criticizing, or complaining about
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Speaker 3: what I was saying. Now, that is significant.
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Speaker 2: Well, did you get any email at all?
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Speaker 3: I got ten emails yesterday. I got four today, all
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Speaker 3: in support. Now, let me tell you what that means
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Speaker 3: to me. I'm a gay man and a gay journalist.
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Speaker 3: You know, I have traveled this road before. Because I'm gay,
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Speaker 3: I've got a better than average ability to see through
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Speaker 3: what we traditionally call, Phil, baloney, you know, or something stronger,
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Speaker 3: the BS.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 3: This is really significant. I call for NBC to hire
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Speaker 3: an African-American to replace Kenny Couric, and I don't get
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Speaker 3: any complaint email. What that tells me is I have
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Speaker 3: shaken some people up in the industry. I know I've
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Speaker 3: shaken up our readers.
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Speaker 1: How do you conclude that if you don't get any
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Speaker 1: email from anybody reacting negatively?
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Speaker 3: Because I have shaken them up so much that to
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Speaker 3: react negatively means... They're going to further provoke me, and
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Speaker 3: they don't want to do it. They don't want to
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Speaker 3: see any more columns from Doug Danger, and I'm gay,
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Speaker 3: about an African-American replacing Katie Couric.
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Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you a question. Is that all
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Speaker 2: that revolutionary?
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Speaker 3: Of course it is.
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Speaker 2: Look, they've got Al Roker.
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Speaker 3: Al Roker's the clown. Al Roker's the comic relief. I'm
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Speaker 3: talking about the main player on that show. Katie Couric's
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Speaker 3: the main player. You can talk all you want about
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Speaker 3: Matt Lauer. Matt Lauer, who I happen to know, is gay,
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Speaker 3: and I'm not outing him. I think it's pretty– it's
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Speaker 3: very well known in the industry that Matt Lauer is gay.
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Speaker 3: And I don't know whether he's proud of that or not.
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Speaker 3: I'm a gay man and a gay journalist. I'm proud
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Speaker 3: of that. Matt Lauer is gay and seems to hide it.
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Speaker 3: But I'm going to tell you this.
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Speaker 2: I think– No, but if I could interrupt you, Doug.
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Speaker 4: Go ahead.
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Speaker 1: All right, so they hire, and who would you think
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Speaker 1: would be a good person to replace Katie Couric?
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Speaker 3: An African-American female.
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Speaker 2: Now, I know, but can you think of.
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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, look at Tyra Banks is doing a
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Speaker 3: great job on her talk show. I think she is
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Speaker 3: a candidate. I think they would pull the coup of
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Speaker 3: coups if they got Oprah Winfrey.
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Speaker 2: Well, she doesn't need that show.
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Speaker 3: Phil, you're talking to a gay man and a gay journalist.
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Speaker 3: What I've done over the last, since I've been out,
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Speaker 3: over the last year, what I've done is looked at
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Speaker 3: the situation with a gay... with the gay look. And
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Speaker 3: I just see it differently from most straight people because
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Speaker 3: most straight people are kind of drowning in their own,
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Speaker 3: you know, horse manure. And I'm not, you know, present
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Speaker 3: company accepted. But I think Oprah Winfrey.
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Speaker 1: Well, let me just say this, if I could. Oprah
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Speaker 1: Winfrey has her own franchise, man. She doesn't need to
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Speaker 1: go to work for NBC. She owns her own franchise.
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Speaker 1: She has, to herself.
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Speaker 2: Oprah.
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Speaker 3: Winfrey has a talk show, but she hasn't got the
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Speaker 3: Today Show. She hasn't got the Today Show. Now, I'm gay.
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Speaker 3: And the reason why I say that is because I've
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Speaker 3: walked the long, hard road over the last year after
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Speaker 3: I came out looking at all of a sudden how
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Speaker 3: everyone's nice to me when I say I'm gay. When
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Speaker 3: I didn't say I'm gay, when I wasn't gay, or
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Speaker 3: I should say when I wasn't gay, when I wasn't out. Okay.
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Speaker 3: I hear all the fag jokes. I heard all the
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Speaker 3: gay jokes. People are such, you know, so dishonest. And
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Speaker 3: when I said we need a black woman in there,
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Speaker 3: I didn't get an email. That tells me I've scared people.
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Speaker 2: Is it possible that people agree?
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Speaker 1: You got 10, you said you got 14 email supporting you.
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Speaker 3: I think that that is, those are people who are
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Speaker 3: trying to probe and are trying to see, am I
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Speaker 3: going to react? They are trying to throw me off.
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Speaker 3: And the reason why they're trying to throw me off
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Speaker 3: is they don't want me to push this. Well, I'm
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Speaker 3: going to keep pushing it. I'm going to keep pushing
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Speaker 3: it until I see, until I turn my television set
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Speaker 3: on at 7 o'clock in the morning and I see
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Speaker 3: nothing but black coming out of that screen on NBC.
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Speaker 2: All right, well, let's.
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Speaker 1: Talk about Tyra Banks. I've got to give our phone number,
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Speaker 1: by the way, 1-800-449-8686, 1-800-449-8686. Doug Danger of the Orange
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Speaker 1: County Courier Entertainment Writer, as we're talking about Katie Couric
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Speaker 1: leaving to go to.
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Speaker 3: CBS.
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Speaker 2: Now, who will replace her on the Today Show?
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Speaker 1: Doug feels the time is now for an African-American female host.
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Speaker 2: And I don't disagree with you.
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Speaker 3: Well, because I know you agree with my views. But
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Speaker 3: the rank and file of mainstream, they don't want to
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Speaker 3: see a black face. And they don't want to see
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Speaker 3: a black face. They don't want to provoke anybody into
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Speaker 3: pushing this.
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Speaker 1: All right, but let's get back to talking about who
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Speaker 1: you'd like to see, and then let's talk more about
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Speaker 1: this lack of response you got from the industry and
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Speaker 1: from readers.
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Speaker 2: You mentioned Tyra Banks. You mentioned Oprah Winfrey.
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Speaker 3: I mentioned Tyra Banks. I mentioned Oprah Winfrey. I think
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Speaker 3: a good, I don't know, you know, I mean, the
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Speaker 3: woman from The View, star, Holly Robinson-Pete, Paula Abdul. I
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Speaker 3: think Paula Abdul would get the young viewer. I think
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Speaker 3: Paula Abdul would be phenomenal. I think, why not go
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Speaker 3: whole hog? Why not look for the Jada Pinkett? Why
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Speaker 3: not try to get.
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Speaker 2: Well, those are all working actresses.
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Speaker 3: Well, that doesn't make any difference. Look, you can be
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Speaker 3: a working actress, Phil, and work twice a year just
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Speaker 3: paying the bills. Or you got yourself a steady job
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Speaker 3: at NBC. I'll tell you who I'd love to see
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Speaker 3: on there. I'd love to see Angela Bassett. I'd love
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Speaker 3: to see NBC shoot for her, but they won't do it.
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Speaker 3: And I'll tell you why they won't do it. They
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Speaker 3: won't do it because they want to have that white girl,
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Speaker 3: the white face, because they are traditional. Wait a minute.
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Speaker 1: If it's going to get viewers, if it's going to
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Speaker 1: get a lot of viewers, if people will watch, isn't
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Speaker 1: this a little wrong to say, well, it's got to
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Speaker 1: be black, it's got to be white, they've got to
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Speaker 1: be black? Isn't it just like the person who is
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Speaker 1: the most watchable, the most entertaining?
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Speaker 3: Well, look, the job calls for... A person who is
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Speaker 3: part journalist, part emcee. It's a very difficult job. Katie
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Speaker 3: Couric did it brilliantly. I thought that Katie Couric was
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Speaker 3: the best. I thought that she dwarfed the woman before her.
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Speaker 3: I even forget her name. Who was the woman that
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Speaker 3: was before her?
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Speaker 2: Jane Pauley.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Jane Pauley was terrible compared to Katie Couric. The
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Speaker 3: job calls for a journalist as well as an emcee,
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Speaker 3: but I think it also calls for someone that America's
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Speaker 3: going to embrace.
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Speaker 1: And you feel America is ready to embrace an African-American
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Speaker 1: host there?
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Speaker 3: Well, look, I mean, we're in love with Condoleezza Rice.
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Speaker 3: We're in love with a lot of young black females.
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Speaker 3: You know, the country is embracing this. But the white
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Speaker 3: people of this country still want to turn their TV
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Speaker 3: set on at 7 o'clock and see Joan Lunden looking
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Speaker 3: back at them. They want to see Florence Henderson looking
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Speaker 3: back at them. They want to see, you know, Deborah
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Speaker 3: Norville staring at them. They want to see some blonde... bug-eyed, white, white,
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Speaker 3: white woman. And I'm gay. And as a gay man,
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Speaker 3: as a gay journalist, I know the time is right.
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Speaker 1: Right, Doug, if you feel that America would eventually embrace
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Speaker 1: a black host on the Today Show, a female black
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Speaker 1: host on the Today Show, then why not just allow
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Speaker 1: nature to take its course, so to speak? If you
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Speaker 1: feel that there is resistance to this, then why not
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Speaker 1: just not write about it, see what happens?
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Speaker 3: Because if I don't write about it, They're going to
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Speaker 3: put a white woman in there. They're hoping that I'll
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Speaker 3: stop writing about it because they haven't responded to me
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Speaker 3: with their e-mails, which means they're afraid to provoke me.
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Speaker 2: You know, to me, that sounds like a little convoluted thinking.
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Speaker 3: Why?
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if they're not responding with their e-mails,
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Speaker 2: maybe they agree with you.
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Speaker 3: No, they don't agree with me. If they agreed with me,
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Speaker 3: we would have seen a black woman on that show
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Speaker 3: after Barbara Walters got replaced. They would have put Julia,
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Speaker 3: the woman who was Diane Carroll in there.
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Speaker 2: Diane Carroll?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they would have put her in there. But they didn't.
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Speaker 3: And they want a white woman in there. NBC wants
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Speaker 3: a white woman in there. NBC wants a white face
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Speaker 3: in there. Most of the viewers want a white face
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Speaker 3: in there. I say the time is right to put
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Speaker 3: a black woman in there. And they don't want me
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Speaker 3: to say it. That's why they're not emailing me. Because
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Speaker 3: they're afraid that if they email me, I'll write more
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Speaker 3: about it. So they're not emailing.
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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, man. It sounds convoluted.
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Speaker 3: No, Phil, look. I'm a gay man and a gay journalist.
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Speaker 3: As a result... I know, and I've been in this
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Speaker 3: business a long time, I know what people are doing.
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Speaker 1: No, but it sounds to me like they're not writing
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Speaker 1: to me, so therefore they don't want to promote.
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Speaker 2: I'm saying they're not writing to you because they agree
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Speaker 2: with you. Or maybe they're just bored with the topic.
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Speaker 3: No, look, I'm gay, okay? They're not bored with anything
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Speaker 3: I'm going to write because I've seen the underside of
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Speaker 3: this business. And I'm telling you right now, the time
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Speaker 3: is right for NBC to get it right, And the
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Speaker 3: only way to replace Katie Couric, the little, beautiful, little
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Speaker 3: elfin Katie Couric, that small, diminutive, but powerful woman, is
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Speaker 3: when I flip my TV set on at 7 o'clock,
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Speaker 3: what comes back at me is as dark as the
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Speaker 3: ace of spades.
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Speaker 1: All right, let me take a break here.
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Speaker 3: 1-800-449-8686.
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Speaker 1: Doug Danger wrote a column yesterday in the Orange County
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Speaker 1: Courier basically saying that NBC, it's time now, let's get
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Speaker 1: an African-American female host on the Today Show. And he
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Speaker 1: said he didn't get any email response from anybody criticizing that.
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Speaker 1: He feels that's because he's shaken the industry up so
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Speaker 1: much they're afraid to email him and provoke him into
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Speaker 1: writing more pro-black host columns. But I feel, I mean,
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Speaker 1: I know that Doug is a gay man and a
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Speaker 1: gay journalist and feels that he's walked this tough road,
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Speaker 1: but I feel they haven't written because maybe they agreed.
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Speaker 1: or they don't agree, or they don't care. He sees
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Speaker 1: it differently. He's a journalist. Who are the names that
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Speaker 1: he threw out there? Well, we talked about Paula Abdul,
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Speaker 1: Tyra Banks. Forget Tyra Banks. Oprah Winfrey ain't going to
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Speaker 1: do it, man. She's got her own show. Angela Bassett.
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Speaker 2: All right, 1-800-4-5.
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Speaker 1: Then he said that they had a chance to get
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Speaker 1: it right when Barbara Walters retired.
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Speaker 2: They could have put Diane Carroll in there. 1-800-449-8686.
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Speaker 1: The world-famous Phil Hendry Show will be back with Doug
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Speaker 1: Danger of the Orange County Courier on NBC replacing Katie
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Speaker 1: Couric with a black female.
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Speaker 2: We'll be right back.
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Speaker 5: The Phil Hendry Show.
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Speaker 2: 1-800-449-8686. So you're 250 pounds of donut oil.
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Speaker 3: Good for you. The Phil Hendry Show is back.
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Speaker 6: 1-800-449-8686.
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Speaker 3: What is that? I'm at the end up south in
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Speaker 3: Newport Beach. And, yes, it's a... It's called a gay bar.
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Speaker 3: It's more of a... It's a cocktail lounge and restaurant
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Speaker 3: that primarily serves gay clientele, but straight people come in
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Speaker 3: here on the weekends. But here's the point that I'm making, Phil.
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Speaker 3: When you talk about the new host on the NBC
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Speaker 3: Today show being a white woman, well, you're not... You know,
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Speaker 3: everybody expects it's going to be a white woman. I'm
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Speaker 3: saying they got a chance to do it.
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Speaker 1: Oh, I know you're saying they got a chance to
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Speaker 1: put a black female in there. You wrote the article...
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Speaker 1: Nobody emailed you. Isn't that the point of what you're saying?
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Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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Speaker 1: No one emailed criticizing what you said. Now, ordinarily, I
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Speaker 1: would think that means that either they agree or there's
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Speaker 1: no real interest in what.
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Speaker 2: It is you're saying.
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Speaker 3: No, that's no. Absolutely not. No. Look at it, Phil.
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Speaker 3: I'm a gay man and a gay journalist. There's not
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Speaker 3: a whole lot that I write about that isn't at
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Speaker 3: least provocative to some level. That's why I'm saying... Do
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Speaker 3: you get mostly.
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Speaker 2: Do you get email... A lot?
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Speaker 3: I'm sorry?
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Speaker 2: Do you get emailed a lot after you write a column?
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Speaker 3: It depends. It depends on whether people are scared or
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Speaker 3: in support or just angry. If they're angry, they'll email you.
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Speaker 3: But mostly when I write, people are scared of what
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Speaker 3: I write or they support it. Last week I got
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Speaker 3: 20 emails. People loved what I wrote. I was writing
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Speaker 3: an article last week about Mickey Rooney and everything that
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Speaker 3: he's been or everything he could have been And, you know,
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Speaker 3: I know I scared the hell out of a lot
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Speaker 3: of people.
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Speaker 2: You scared, okay, so.
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Speaker 3: I'm a gay man.
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Speaker 2: No, I know, but what did you scare, you wrote
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Speaker 2: an article about Mickey Rooney, what he could have been?
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Speaker 3: Right, it was an article that contrasted Mickey Rooney's career
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Speaker 3: from 1930 to 1940, and then cut to now, where
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Speaker 3: is he? And what could he have been had he
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Speaker 3: wanted to be more? And it was a fascinating look
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Speaker 3: at one of the early comments of Hollywood and how he's–
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Speaker 3: no one wants to hire him. All right. See, just
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Speaker 3: right there, you don't want to respond to that because
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Speaker 3: there's a nervousness that I can– Well, look.
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Speaker 2: I've got to be honest with you, all right? I
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Speaker 2: will tell you right now, that doesn't interest me at all.
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Speaker 3: Well, you know, you say it– No, it doesn't.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you tell me I wrote an article about
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Speaker 1: Mickey Rooney, his early years, and now where– you know,
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Speaker 1: what he could have been.
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Speaker 3: I think, Phil, for the purposes of your radio show,
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Speaker 3: honesty is important. If we're going to be talking about something,
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Speaker 3: especially the next black female host of the Today Show,
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Speaker 3: and it will be a black female. It better be
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Speaker 3: a black female. I think you need to be honest
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Speaker 3: and tell me the truth about the things that.
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Speaker 2: I'm telling you right now, an article about Mickey Rooney,
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Speaker 2: don't gun my engine, man. It's not.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay. 1-800-449-8686.
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Speaker 1: We're talking with Doug Danger about the new host of
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Speaker 1: the NBC Today show. It needs to be a black female.
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Speaker 1: Here's John. John, you're on the Phil Hendry Show.
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Speaker 3: Go ahead.
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Speaker 7: Well, I just think this reporter needs to stop taking
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Speaker 7: it deep and get back to the reality of mainstream America.
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Speaker 7: He told us how many times he's a gay reporter.
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Speaker 7: I really could care less whether he's a gay reporter.
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Speaker 3: Nor whether or not he's a white black or yellow. Well,
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Speaker 3: what difference does it make then? If you don't care,
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Speaker 3: why is it bothering you?
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Speaker 7: I don't care, because I think this guy needs to
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Speaker 7: get off his high horse and get back with the 5%
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Speaker 7: of the population he represents.
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Speaker 3: No, it's more like 10%. And mainstream America needs to see, look,
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Speaker 3: I don't care what you think of me being gay.
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Speaker 3: You think that matters to me? No. All right. Well,
17:39
Speaker 3: then what's your problem?
17:41
Speaker 7: To get a clear mind is what's going on in
17:43
Speaker 7: the world.
17:43
Speaker 3: You said taking it deep twice. How'd you like to
17:45
Speaker 3: take it deep?
17:46
Speaker 7: Take it deep twice, my wife was happy at least.
17:49
Speaker 3: I mean about me giving it to you deep. What
17:52
Speaker 3: do you think of that, boy?
17:53
Speaker 7: Mainstream America is an alternative America.
17:55
Speaker 3: Let me tell you something, punk.
17:56
Speaker 7: Whether or not it's a black female, a white female,
17:58
Speaker 7: or a yellow female, who are you to give NBC
18:01
Speaker 7: an ultimatum?
18:02
Speaker 3: What's wrong with this world?
18:03
Speaker 7: People like you that keep dictating what race, color, or
18:06
Speaker 7: creed is going to get the next job. I think
18:08
Speaker 7: it should go on qualifications, on integrity, and who America
18:11
Speaker 7: can trust.
18:12
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, I can't take your opinion because
18:14
Speaker 3: you take it deep from your old lady.
18:16
Speaker 2: All right, look it. Come on.
18:19
Speaker 3: This guy started out with this, Phil. I'm just following up, okay?
18:23
Speaker 3: He sounded like some yard punk to me. Yard punk? Yeah,
18:26
Speaker 3: you're my yard punk, son.
18:28
Speaker 7: Are you jealous of my pool boy?
18:29
Speaker 3: Are you jealous of my pool boy? You're my pool boy.
18:33
Speaker 3: I love the pool boy. You are my pool boy.
18:35
Speaker 3: And by the way, it's getting a little dirty. Come
18:36
Speaker 3: on back over here. I don't think you're even gay.
18:40
Speaker 3: You took the handle with you, man. Nobody can take
18:43
Speaker 3: six feet.
18:43
Speaker 2: Okay, come on. Stop it.
18:47
Speaker 3: This guy doesn't know what he's talking about. This is
18:51
Speaker 3: a guy that doesn't want to see a black female
18:53
Speaker 3: hosting the Today Show. That's number one. I don't mind
18:56
Speaker 3: being a black female.
18:57
Speaker 7: I don't think you have a right to dictate whether
18:59
Speaker 7: it's black, white, or yellow. That's just like saying it
19:03
Speaker 7: should be a black gay female.
19:04
Speaker 3: You don't mind being a black female. Isn't that what
19:06
Speaker 3: you said?
19:07
Speaker 7: I don't mind doing a black female.
19:09
Speaker 3: Do you?
19:10
Speaker 2: I dumped this guy. He's boring. 1-800-449-8686.
19:12
Speaker 1: Here is Mitchell.
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Speaker 2: Go ahead, Mitchell.
19:15
Speaker 3: Yes, hello. Hi. How are you?
19:19
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just reiterating the same thing that last caller
19:22
Speaker 4: was saying. This gentleman on the phone, every other word
19:27
Speaker 4: I respond to.
19:28
Speaker 3: Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Everybody's talking about me. This
19:30
Speaker 3: is about the Today Show hostess, the new hostess of
19:32
Speaker 3: the Today Show being a black female. What are you
19:35
Speaker 3: talking about me for?
19:37
Speaker 4: Well, because that's the thing that I'm just listening to
19:39
Speaker 4: the show.
19:39
Speaker 3: I'm a gay man and a gay journalist, okay? So what?
19:42
Speaker 3: So you're gay, what? I'm Jewish. Why do you keep...
19:45
Speaker 3: it white? It's not going to bother me if you
19:47
Speaker 3: say you're Jewish.
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Speaker 4: Yes.
19:51
Speaker 3: What's your problem, man? My problem is that you're.
19:57
Speaker 4: Using that as some kind of crutch.
19:59
Speaker 3: No, it happens to be because I'm gay, I've got
20:02
Speaker 3: a little bit better idea of what it takes. To
20:04
Speaker 3: move some of the minority groups forward in our society.
20:08
Speaker 4: I'm a bigger minority than that, but we're hated all
20:10
Speaker 4: over the world.
20:10
Speaker 3: No, you're not. You're not hated in Hollywood. Oh, that's true.
20:14
Speaker 3: You're not hated in banking circles.
20:16
Speaker 2: All right. 1-800-449-8686. Phil Hendry Show. The Phil Hendry Show.
20:19
Speaker 3: 1-800-449-8686.
20:19
Speaker 2: I give it five gay thumbs up. The Phil Hendry
20:21
Speaker 2: Show is back.
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Speaker 8: 1-800-449-8686.
20:32
Speaker 2: Doug Danger with me from the Orange County Courier. The
20:34
Speaker 2: reason why it bothers people, I think, is because you
20:36
Speaker 2: keep repeating it over and over again that you're a
20:38
Speaker 2: gay man and a gay journalist.
20:39
Speaker 3: I am a gay man, and I am a gay journalist.
20:42
Speaker 3: I'm a gay man and a gay journalist. I've been
20:44
Speaker 3: down some highways. I've been down some roads. And, you know,
20:46
Speaker 3: you heard that one guy. I mean, boy, you talk
20:48
Speaker 3: about whipsawing a guy and bitch-slapping somebody. That one guy
20:51
Speaker 3: kept going, I take it deep and all that. He
20:53
Speaker 3: backed himself right into me. You know, here's a guy
20:57
Speaker 3: and the other guy talking about, you know, he doesn't
20:59
Speaker 3: like gay people. I mean, look, most people are homophobic.
21:02
Speaker 3: We know that. So if they're homophobic, I'm going to
21:05
Speaker 3: let them know right up front I'm gay. Now, Vanessa Williams,
21:09
Speaker 3: I think, you could talk about Vanessa Williams.
21:11
Speaker 2: Vanessa Williams would be great.
21:12
Speaker 3: On the Today Show? Yeah. No, no, I don't like
21:15
Speaker 3: her on the Today. I'm telling you that Vanessa Williams
21:17
Speaker 3: is a good actress. She's an example of somebody who's
21:19
Speaker 3: a good actress that I wouldn't want to see anywhere
21:21
Speaker 3: near the Today Show.
21:22
Speaker 2: Now, if you're talking about hiring a black, if you've
21:24
Speaker 2: got to hire a black female to replace Katie Couric,
21:27
Speaker 2: Vanessa Williams is my pick.
21:29
Speaker 3: You're not listening to what I'm saying. Vanessa Williams is
21:32
Speaker 3: an actress. You don't want her anywhere near your television
21:37
Speaker 3: when she's sitting there staring at you. You want her,
21:40
Speaker 3: I don't know if you saw the Johnson Family Vacation.
21:42
Speaker 3: She played Cedric the Entertainer's wife. Wonderful, wonderful work. No,
21:48
Speaker 3: forget it, Phil. I'm a gay man and a gay journalist.
21:51
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, man. I think that she'd be good.
21:54
Speaker 1: That's my opinion as Phil Hendry.
21:57
Speaker 3: But I'm gay. And as the result, because I've got
22:01
Speaker 3: the gay view... You're right? Yes.
22:07
Speaker 2: Basically, yeah. All right. 1-800-449-8686. Eva, go ahead. You're on
22:11
Speaker 2: The Phil Henry Show.
22:14
Speaker 6: I'm a white female, and I actually think this reporter
22:19
Speaker 6: is promoting bigotry. And I don't think you're speaking for
22:22
Speaker 6: the mainstream. I consider myself to be mainstream. I personally
22:26
Speaker 6: don't care if I look.
22:27
Speaker 3: Up and see.
22:28
Speaker 6: A black woman, a white woman, or an Asian woman
22:31
Speaker 6: on the TV, I don't think it has anything to
22:33
Speaker 6: do with race, but I think you're making it about
22:36
Speaker 6: race when it's not necessarily... It's about look.
22:38
Speaker 3: It's about look. It's about a good look. Look, you're
22:41
Speaker 3: not going to have somebody on the show, and forgive
22:44
Speaker 3: me for saying this, but you're not going to have
22:45
Speaker 3: the host of the Today Show have a hair lip,
22:47
Speaker 3: are you? No, you're not going to do it because
22:49
Speaker 3: it would be.
22:50
Speaker 6: Why does it have to be a black woman?
22:52
Speaker 3: Because some people are more comfortable.
22:53
Speaker 6: Why do you think we're afraid of being a black
22:55
Speaker 6: woman on TV? We're not afraid of that. We're in
22:57
Speaker 6: the 2000s, sir.
22:58
Speaker 3: All right, then why are you arguing? I'm gay. Why
23:01
Speaker 3: are you arguing with me?
23:02
Speaker 6: Does that matter? We're talking about the.
23:04
Speaker 3: Well, you're hostile. We're not talking about... You're hostile because
23:07
Speaker 3: I'm gay. And I'm saying that we need to have
23:11
Speaker 3: a black female on TV... Phil mentioned Vanessa Williams. I
23:15
Speaker 3: don't think so. First, I think Holly Robinson-Pete would be good.
23:18
Speaker 3: I think Rashida Jones would be good. I think....
23:23
Speaker 6: What's wrong with an Asian woman? What's wrong with a
23:25
Speaker 6: white woman?
23:26
Speaker 3: We're not ready for that. We're not ready for the Asian.
23:28
Speaker 3: We're not ready for the Asian. Who's not ready? Mainstream?
23:31
Speaker 3: Mainstream America is not. You're not mainstream. Yes, I am.
23:33
Speaker 6: So how can you speak for mainstream?
23:35
Speaker 3: I know about minority and I know about truth.
23:37
Speaker 6: You could say you're a gay man, gay journalist.
23:38
Speaker 3: I'm a gay man and a gay journalist.
23:40
Speaker 6: So that's not mainstream, is it?
23:41
Speaker 3: I write about the mainstream. And I've seen how people
23:43
Speaker 3: are treated.
23:44
Speaker 6: How can you write about mainstream if you don't know
23:46
Speaker 6: about mainstream?
23:46
Speaker 3: I do know mainstream.
23:48
Speaker 6: I think you're totally wrong.
23:50
Speaker 3: I lived the life of a straight man and saw
23:52
Speaker 3: all the lies and heard all the gay jokes.
23:54
Speaker 6: You are promoting bigotry.
23:56
Speaker 3: Well, you're promoting bigotry because you won't take advice from
23:58
Speaker 3: a gay man.
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Speaker 6: I have no problem seeing a black woman, and I'm
24:03
Speaker 6: a white woman.
24:03
Speaker 3: No, no, I didn't say black. Let's talk about how
24:05
Speaker 3: are you with gay men? How are you with gay men?
24:07
Speaker 6: I have several gay men friends.
24:10
Speaker 3: Oh, God. I'm in that industry where that's where we work.
24:13
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, wait a minute.
24:14
Speaker 2: Why is that bull crap?
24:15
Speaker 3: Because that's the first thing I hear. Oh, I have
24:17
Speaker 3: several gay male friends. The first thing you hear from
24:19
Speaker 3: these women, you know, I have several gay male friends.
24:23
Speaker 6: Maybe you need to accept your gayness.
24:25
Speaker 3: Can I ask you a question? Maybe that's the problem.
24:26
Speaker 3: Have you ever heard the term fag-hag? Let's get down
24:29
Speaker 3: to it. No. All right, do you know what it is?
24:33
Speaker 6: We're talking about a postcard.
24:36
Speaker 2: I've heard it, okay, and it's very uncomplimentary.
24:38
Speaker 3: Well, she's hanging around with all these queers.
24:42
Speaker 2: Are you guys arguing, or what's going on here?
24:44
Speaker 3: I'm saying that Vanessa Williams would be a terrific host.
24:48
Speaker 1: That's what I said, and you said no, she wouldn't.
24:51
Speaker 3: No, you did not.
24:52
Speaker 2: Yes, I did.
24:55
Speaker 3: Well, this woman here, she wants to see a Chinaman.
24:57
Speaker 3: That's not going to happen. I said, what's wrong with it?
25:00
Speaker 3: We're not ready to see that.
25:01
Speaker 6: I said, what's wrong with it?
25:02
Speaker 3: We're not ready to see it as a country, to
25:04
Speaker 3: see a couple of eyes like that staring back at
25:06
Speaker 3: us at 7 o'clock in the morning. You know, we
25:08
Speaker 3: are ready in this country to move forward now with
25:13
Speaker 3: someone who is black, beautiful, proud, awake, you know.
25:19
Speaker 6: And you can't be white, beautiful, and proud?
25:21
Speaker 3: Or you can't be Asian, beautiful, and proud? Look, Eva,
25:23
Speaker 3: we've had enough of that. We had Joan Lunden. We
25:25
Speaker 3: had Katie Couric. We had all these white women. It's done.
25:29
Speaker 2: All right, Eva, thanks for your call.
25:32
Speaker 3: 1-800-449-8686.
25:32
Speaker 1: Doug Danger from the Orange County Courier. I said Vanessa
25:36
Speaker 1: Williams would be a good host, and he didn't agree
25:38
Speaker 1: with me. He's talking about, he even said Dorothy Dandridge. Well,
25:42
Speaker 1: I got a big newsflash for you.
25:44
Speaker 2: She's croaked. 1-800-449-8686. Phil Hendry Show. Phil Hendry Show.
25:48
Speaker 3: 1-800-449-8686.
25:48
Speaker 2: You know I'm gay, right? The Phil Henry Show is back.
25:57
Speaker 3: 1-800-449-8686.
25:58
Speaker 2: Doug Danger with me from the Orange County Courier on
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Speaker 2: getting a black female to replace Katie Couric on the
26:06
Speaker 2: Today Show.
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Speaker 1: Now say that again what you just said about Jane Kennedy.
26:10
Speaker 1: And people, by the way, hold on. People who don't
26:13
Speaker 1: know Jane Kennedy, she was a very prominent, I think
26:16
Speaker 1: it was in the 80s when she hosted the NFL Today.
26:19
Speaker 1: She was a host on the NFL Today on CBS.
26:22
Speaker 1: And then she did some, I think she was actually
26:24
Speaker 1: in Playboy, too.
26:25
Speaker 2: Very beautiful woman.
26:26
Speaker 3: Go ahead. What I said was for people to post
26:31
Speaker 3: pictures of Jane Kennedy as she is now proves of
26:35
Speaker 3: the racism that's going on in America. Jane Kennedy has
26:39
Speaker 3: gained weight. Jane Kennedy is not the Jane Kennedy you remember.
26:42
Speaker 3: She is overweight. And I think you bringing her name up,
26:47
Speaker 3: I think it's just a way of you, you know,
26:50
Speaker 3: slapping me across the face because I'm gay.
26:52
Speaker 2: No, I brought her name up because I remembered her
26:54
Speaker 2: when she was on the NFL. You say she's obese?
26:57
Speaker 3: Yes, she's very obese. And I think for people to
27:00
Speaker 3: post pictures of her on the Internet that way only
27:03
Speaker 3: proves that there's a racial bias against somebody hiring a
27:07
Speaker 3: black female to host a Today show.
27:11
Speaker 2: What's her name? Kirstie Alley.
27:12
Speaker 3: Who?
27:12
Speaker 2: Kirstie Alley. What about her, man? He's sticking pictures of
27:15
Speaker 2: her up.
27:16
Speaker 3: Well, what are you, backing up the white woman now?
27:18
Speaker 1: No, I'm saying to you, what are you talking about
27:21
Speaker 1: backing up the white woman? You said that you think
27:23
Speaker 1: it's wrong for them to put pictures of Jane Kennedy
27:25
Speaker 1: up where she looks.
27:26
Speaker 2: Like a monster, right?
27:27
Speaker 3: That's right. I said monstrosity. I didn't say monster.
27:30
Speaker 2: Oh, okay. Well, gee, that's so kind of you, Doug.
27:32
Speaker 3: Hey, look, I'm a gay man and a gay journalist,
27:34
Speaker 3: all right?
27:35
Speaker 1: All right, but you're saying that they can put up
27:37
Speaker 1: the pictures of Kirstie Alley looking like five different houses,
27:41
Speaker 1: but they can't put Jane Kennedy up.
27:43
Speaker 2: Why?
27:43
Speaker 3: Because... Kirstie Alley worked her way into that condition because
27:47
Speaker 3: she wanted to get a reality show so she could
27:50
Speaker 3: come on, look like a slob, and lose all the weight.
27:52
Speaker 3: Jane Kennedy overate because she was nervous about never working
27:56
Speaker 3: again because she was nervous about working for Bill Cosby.
27:59
Speaker 3: And people will bug her. What? I'm talking about the differences.
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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, man. You can't get out
28:06
Speaker 2: of that one.
28:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jane Kennedy, it's too bad that people have to
28:09
Speaker 1: put pictures up or like that. Kirstie Alley got hosed too, man.
28:12
Speaker 1: You say it's okay for Kirstie Alley because what she wanted,
28:15
Speaker 1: she knew she wanted to have a reality show?
28:17
Speaker 2: Yeah. So she overate?
28:20
Speaker 3: She overate so she could get into slob condition so
28:23
Speaker 3: she could then have a reality show and roll around
28:26
Speaker 3: and lose her weight, okay? Now the other thing, Jane Kennedy,
28:30
Speaker 3: on the other hand, all that nervous eating because she's
28:34
Speaker 3: working in black Hollywood. And it's very stressful for black
28:37
Speaker 3: actors and actresses in black Hollywood. Let me tell you why.
28:40
Speaker 3: Because in black Hollywood, actors and actresses are treated like slaves.
28:44
Speaker 3: They can't say anything to a director. They can't say
28:46
Speaker 3: anything to a producer. If they do, they lose their job.
28:48
Speaker 3: White actors, like Russell Crowe, he can walk up to
28:51
Speaker 3: a director and tell the guy to go pound himself, right?
28:54
Speaker 3: A black actor tries that in black Hollywood, he'll walk
28:57
Speaker 3: out to his car that night and get Tommy gunned.
29:01
Speaker 2: I think that's bull crap.
29:02
Speaker 3: Well, what do you know? I'm a gay man and
29:04
Speaker 3: a gay... Yeah, you know all.
29:05
Speaker 2: About it and I don't. Morgan, you're on the Phil
29:08
Speaker 2: Henry Show. Go ahead.
29:09
Speaker 5: Hey, I just want to say, before I say anything,
29:12
Speaker 5: that I do not want him to, like, to say anything.
29:15
Speaker 5: I don't want him to be yelling back at me.
29:16
Speaker 5: I just want to say what I want to say.
29:18
Speaker 3: No, ma'am, I won't do that. I just, you know.
29:19
Speaker 5: Okay, see, you're already doing it.
29:20
Speaker 3: I'm just, I'm telling you, no, I won't. Hey, don't
29:23
Speaker 3: do that. I'll keep talking.
29:24
Speaker 5: Hold on.
29:25
Speaker 3: If you do that, I'll keep talking. If you do that,
29:26
Speaker 3: I'll keep talking.
29:28
Speaker 2: All right, now what's going on here?
29:30
Speaker 3: If she goes, I'm going to keep talking.
29:32
Speaker 2: All right, then would you please not say anything and
29:34
Speaker 2: let her talk?
29:35
Speaker 6: But.
29:36
Speaker 5: Okay, you keep saying you're a gay man and a
29:38
Speaker 5: gay journalist. So is that the point you're trying to
29:41
Speaker 5: talk about? Or is the point that you want a
29:44
Speaker 5: black to take over Katie Couric?
29:47
Speaker 3: That I want a black man to take over Katie Couric?
29:51
Speaker 5: That you want a black, a black person, a black
29:53
Speaker 5: woman to take over for Katie Couric?
29:56
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I thought you said... I wanted a black
29:58
Speaker 3: man to take over Katie Couric.
30:00
Speaker 2: No, she didn't.
30:01
Speaker 5: I said a black.
30:02
Speaker 3: The point is, my column was about how NBC has
30:07
Speaker 3: the opportunity now to bust out and hire a black
30:11
Speaker 3: female host of the Today Show. And I say that
30:14
Speaker 3: because I'm a gay man and a gay journalist.
30:16
Speaker 5: Okay, but what's having you be a gay man and
30:18
Speaker 5: a gay journalist have to do with this? If I
30:21
Speaker 5: was to read your column, I could care less if
30:23
Speaker 5: you were a gay man and a gay journalist.
30:24
Speaker 3: You're not a homophobe, are you?
30:26
Speaker 5: No.
30:27
Speaker 3: Then why do you have a problem with it?
30:29
Speaker 5: I don't. I don't have a problem with it.
30:30
Speaker 3: Well, you're bringing it up.
30:31
Speaker 5: It doesn't matter.
30:31
Speaker 3: From the first time you called, all you've been talking
30:33
Speaker 3: about is me being gay.
30:34
Speaker 6: No, I have not.
30:35
Speaker 3: Yes, you did, ma'am. You started out saying, what is
30:37
Speaker 3: you being gay, this, gay, that? No, she didn't.
30:39
Speaker 5: I said, what does it have to do with having
30:43
Speaker 5: the column be about a black woman replacing Katie Couric?
30:48
Speaker 3: Say that again?
30:49
Speaker 5: What's having you be a gay man have to do
30:52
Speaker 5: with having a black woman taking over for Katie Couric?
30:55
Speaker 3: Because I'm a gay man and a gay journalist.
30:57
Speaker 5: If I was to read your column, do you have
31:00
Speaker 5: it saying, I'm a gay man, I'm a gay journalist,
31:03
Speaker 5: on the front of your cover?
31:04
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's understood that I'm a gay man
31:07
Speaker 3: and a gay journalist.
31:07
Speaker 5: We all get that. You've said it a gazillion times already.
31:10
Speaker 3: No, I haven't. Look, it's who I am. Look, you
31:13
Speaker 3: say you're Morgan, right? Yeah. Okay. Do people get tired
31:16
Speaker 3: of you saying, hi, I'm Morgan? That's your name.
31:19
Speaker 5: No, because have I sat here doing this whole, like, conversations,
31:23
Speaker 5: you're saying, yeah, I'm Morgan, and I just want to know, yeah,
31:25
Speaker 5: but I'm Morgan, and I want, no.
31:27
Speaker 3: Yes, well, you're saying you're female, aren't you, all the time?
31:30
Speaker 8: I have not.
31:31
Speaker 2: Yes, you are.
31:31
Speaker 3: By the sound of your voice, by the sound of
31:33
Speaker 3: your voice, I know you're a woman, and so every
31:35
Speaker 3: time you talk, I'm just getting female, female, female. Of
31:38
Speaker 3: course I'm a female, but I haven't said it. I'm
31:40
Speaker 3: not bugging you over it. Fine, you're a woman. God,
31:43
Speaker 3: I get it.
31:44
Speaker 5: Okay, and you're a gay.
31:45
Speaker 3: I get it. You're a gay.
31:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, Doug.
31:47
Speaker 3: You're gay.
31:47
Speaker 5: You don't have to keep saying it.
31:49
Speaker 3: I'm a gay man and a gay journalist in a
31:51
Speaker 3: world of queers. Now, what do I mean by the
31:53
Speaker 3: world queer? I don't mean homosexual. I mean queer, weird people.
31:58
Speaker 3: You're right. And that's what this world is, Morgan. You
32:00
Speaker 3: know it as well as I do. It is. This
32:02
Speaker 3: world is just queer as a $ 2 bill, not sexually,
32:06
Speaker 3: but mentally. Right. So I'm a gay man and a
32:09
Speaker 3: gay journalist in a world of queer hurt. Okay.
32:13
Speaker 5: All right? But I don't see.
32:14
Speaker 3: Fine.
32:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, we get it. But what has that got to
32:17
Speaker 2: do with you?
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Speaker 1: I've suggested a million names here. Vanessa Williams. Now, what's
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Speaker 1: your idea? You're real hot on Maya Rudolph?
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: Who?
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Speaker 3: Maya Rudolph.
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Speaker 5: Who's that?
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Speaker 3: See, there you go. This is a young woman who
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Speaker 3: doesn't know anything about black. I do, too. Well, she's black.
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Speaker 5: Okay, first of all, you mentioned Tyra Banks.
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Speaker 3: Yes.
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Speaker 5: I love her talk show, but I cannot see her
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Speaker 5: being a TV host.
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Speaker 3: Why not? You love her talk show. Are you kidding?
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Speaker 3: You just said you like her TV show.
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Speaker 5: I love her.
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Speaker 2: It's a different format.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a totally different format.
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Speaker 3: Why don't you let the little straight girl talk for herself?
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Speaker 3: You're going to bail her out? Do what? No, I'm
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Speaker 3: talking to Phil. Why don't you let her talk for herself?
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Speaker 3: Why are you bailing her out?
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Speaker 1: I'm agreeing with her. She likes her TV show. She
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Speaker 1: doesn't think she'd be good in the format of the
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Speaker 1: Today Show.
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Speaker 3: Look, Morgan? Yes? You know, we're living in a world
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Speaker 3: of hurt. Queers can be, and I'm gay. All right,
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Speaker 3: all of that's out of the way. Yeah, you're laughing
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Speaker 3: about it because it is kind of funny.
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Speaker 5: No, I'm laughing at it because you just said you
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Speaker 5: were gay again. You only had to say it once,
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Speaker 5: and we would get it.
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Speaker 3: Let me ask you a question. If you know black,
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Speaker 3: who was the lady at the back of the bus? Go. One, two, three, four. Rose. See? Rose?
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Speaker 3: Nice going. Jesus.
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Speaker 5: The last name?
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Speaker 2: Rosa Parks is the lady's name.
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Speaker 5: Rose, Rosa.
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Speaker 3: She didn't know. She didn't know. All right, if you
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Speaker 3: know black, who's the man that gave the speech at
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Speaker 3: the Washington Monument? One, two, three. She doesn't know. See?
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Speaker 5: Okay.
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Speaker 2: Martin Luther freaking King, okay?
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Speaker 3: God, what a racist. All right, look.
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Speaker 5: Oh, my God. You did not just say that.
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Speaker 6: No.
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Speaker 5: If you give me like.
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Speaker 3: One second to say it before I can say.
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Speaker 5: Martin Luther King Jr., And he gave the I have
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Speaker 5: a dream speech. You can kiss my ass, dude.
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Speaker 3: Hey, lady. All right. Who said this? Who's the guy
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Speaker 3: whose last name was a letter? One, two, three, four.
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Speaker 3: She doesn't know.
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Speaker 5: Because I didn't say I knew black. I didn't say
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Speaker 5: I knew everything.
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Speaker 3: Come on. Who's the guy whose last name was a letter?
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Speaker 3: And Spike Lee did a movie about him. One, two, three, four, five. Jesus.
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Speaker 3: Come on. I'm giving you six, seven, eight, nine, ten.
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Speaker 2: I don't know. Malcolm X.
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Speaker 3: I didn't ask you, Henry. I asked this little girl,
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Speaker 3: and she don't know.
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Speaker 5: I'm not saying I know black history.
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Speaker 3: Well, what do you mean black history? That's a black,
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Speaker 3: you know, a famous one.
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Speaker 5: That's black history.
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Speaker 1: That's black history. And black history is American history. And
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Speaker 1: American history includes a lot of things.
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Speaker 5: But we're not talking about black history. We're talking about.
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Speaker 3: Okay, Doug.
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Speaker 5: People who are still alive.
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Speaker 3: I got to agree with that.
34:49
Speaker 5: And you want them to host for Katie Couric.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I want them. All right, who played John Shaft? One, two, three, four.
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Speaker 3: You got to see. She doesn't.
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Speaker 2: Who played John Shaft?
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Speaker 3: Well, do you know? Yeah.
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Speaker 5: John Shaft.
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Speaker 2: Richard Roundtree.
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Speaker 3: No, Samuel Jackson.
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Speaker 2: In the original, it was Roundtree.
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Speaker 3: Who's talking about the original? I'm talking about the one
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Speaker 3: with Jackson kicked ass.
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Speaker 5: Okay, anyway, we're getting off the subject here.
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Speaker 3: Who played John Shaft? All right, I'll give you a hint.
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Speaker 3: I'm just talking about Shaft. You know that song? No.
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Speaker 2: It was Richard Roundtree, you turd.
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Speaker 3: Oh, I'm a turd because I'm gay? So what is that,
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Speaker 3: turd burglar? Oh, my God.
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Speaker 2: All right, hold on for a minute.
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Speaker 2: What a moron. Phil Hendry Show. 1-800-449-8686.
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Speaker 4: The Phil Hendry Show is back.
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Speaker 3: You don't know anything.
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Speaker 2: About gay history, man, is your thing. Megan, hi, you're
35:42
Speaker 2: on the Phil Hendry Show with Doug Danger.
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Speaker 3: Megan? Hi.
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Speaker 2: Hi, how you doing, ma'am?
35:47
Speaker 5: Good.
35:48
Speaker 3: Ask me something about gay history.
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Speaker 2: I got a caller on the line who wants to
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Speaker 2: talk to you. Go ahead, ma'am.
35:53
Speaker 8: This is going back a little bit in the show,
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Speaker 8: but I just thought it was very important. I'd just
35:58
Speaker 8: like to point out that someone who's trying to make
35:59
Speaker 8: a point about racism in this country right now really
36:02
Speaker 8: shouldn't be using terms like Chinaman to describe an Asian person.
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Speaker 3: I was saying that, ma'am, because we're not... I wanted
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Speaker 3: to use a colloquial term because I don't think we
36:11
Speaker 3: are ready to see, you know, whatever term you want
36:13
Speaker 3: to use, pigtails nominized or whatever you want to say.
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Speaker 2: Asian... Pacific. How about that? Let me ask you something.
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Speaker 2: You tell everybody about black history.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Nobody knows anything about black. All right.
36:23
Speaker 2: Let me ask you. Here's a little gay history. Who
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Speaker 2: was the guy that united? No, I'm asking Doug here, Megan.
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Speaker 2: Who was the guy that united the Arabs at the
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Speaker 2: end of World War One?
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Speaker 3: Peter O'Toole. T.E. Lawrence.
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Speaker 2: One, two, three. Yeah, I don't know it, do you?
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Speaker 8: Huh?
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Speaker 3: Was he queer?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was gay.
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Speaker 8: Grilling people on the spot.
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Speaker 3: All right, do you know anything about black history, Megan? No,
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Speaker 3: I don't.
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Speaker 8: I'm not here to answer your quiz question.
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Speaker 3: You don't?
36:48
Speaker 4: To prove that I know.
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Speaker 5: Who was Martin Luther King?
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Speaker 3: Dumb.
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