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January 1, 2026 · The Hot Line w/ Jeff Graham

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  [SPEAKER_20]: New Year's Day in this country includes a round of golf for President Trump and a post-poment for some of the tariffs he promised to impose on foreign products in the new year.
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  [SPEAKER_20]: Not all the New Year's Eve action last night involved the mayor or the frigid fun New York Times Square.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: In New York Central Park, 4,000 people took part in the annual Midnight Run for a mile trek, included a firework show.
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  [SPEAKER_34]: I think it's a good way to start the year.
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  [SPEAKER_32]: That was just for a bit of fun.
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  [SPEAKER_20]: Well, on this new year's day, there are a bunch of parades around the world celebrating the holiday.
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  [SPEAKER_20]: When R2 ball drops better than one, when they're in time square for a once-in-a-lifetime New Year's celebration.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't too much champagne making you see things.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The big ball did really drop twice.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: First, the obligatory count on to midnight.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Then four minutes after the clock struck 12, it dropped again, but with a very patriotic makeover, it was all lit up in red-white in blue, that's because as the new year began, the United States officially began celebrating its 250th anniversary, also known as the semi-quincentennial, Stacey Lynn, CBS News,
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  [SPEAKER_20]: The big New Year's Day Bowl games all have college football playoff spots at stake Oregon takes on Texas Tech, the Orange Bowl, Indiana and Alabama are in the Rose Bowl and then Georgia and Ole Miss in the Sugar Bowl.
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  [SPEAKER_20]: Miami Bito, Ohio State last night for its semi-final spot.
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  [SPEAKER_20]: Peter King, CBS News
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  [SPEAKER_21]: It's Brian Killley.
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  [SPEAKER_28]: I have one hope you have an fantastic day and enjoying the holidays.
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  [SPEAKER_28]: This might chance to bring back some of the interviews.
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  [SPEAKER_28]: They've really stood out and just a quick note on coming up on February 14th to May 30th.
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  [SPEAKER_28]: History, Liberty, Lapse, I'll be on stage.
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  [SPEAKER_28]: Bring history to life on our 250th year.
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  [SPEAKER_28]: Streamed on Fox Nation, you've got to Brian Killley.com.
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  [SPEAKER_28]: I can meet you in person.
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  [SPEAKER_28]: And there's VIP opportunities where we get someone on one time.
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  [SPEAKER_28]: Meanwhile, one of my favorite interviews and surprisingly informative, Dr. Jared Horvoth.
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  [SPEAKER_28]: He's saying to everybody, even if you give the kids laptops, if you give the kids Chromebooks, it is not helping them learn.
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  [SPEAKER_28]: And it's not there for us.
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  [SPEAKER_28]: It's really not your fault.
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  [SPEAKER_28]: It's what they found out of the last 10, 15 years.
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  [SPEAKER_28]: So here is my interview, Dr. Jared Horvoth, if you're a grandparent, you're a parent, or you want to be, you will love this, listen.
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  [SPEAKER_28]: So Jared, if I brought up five years ago, let's not ban phones from the classroom and forget about social media for kids, that would have been a niche audience that supported me.
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  [SPEAKER_28]: How did things change?
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  [SPEAKER_14]: I think we spent more time with our kids on these tools and everything started to go haywire.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: I think parents kind of got sick of it and more importantly for the educational sector, teachers got sick of it too.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: The amount of behavioral problems and emotional problems and developmental stunting we were seeing was just getting out of control.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: We've never seen anything like it in the past so we figured something's got to be done and a lot of it is kind of coming back to the tools we're using this kind of tech stuff.
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  [SPEAKER_28]: And you also don't believe you didn't even like the fact that I know I know for Vexel in my middle school, they tell everyone to get Chromebooks so everyone gets Chromebook.
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  [SPEAKER_28]: You have a problem with that, too.
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  [SPEAKER_28]: Don't you?
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  [SPEAKER_14]: it's not a problem as much as it's just straight data.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: We've had data since the turn of about 2002 was when the first one to one laptop program really started.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: So that's kind of the marker where we say EdTech tech really started entering schools and that was almost the exact same time we saw it downturn in basically every cognitive skill in the next generation.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: So believe it or not, Gen Z is the first generation in recorded history to be scoring less and lower on their parents than on measures of memory, attention, general IQ, creative ability, critical thinking, you name it, everything turned.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: And the only thing we can draw it back to is this dang tool we brought into the classroom.
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  [SPEAKER_28]: Is it because the art, the act of writing notes with your hand?
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  [SPEAKER_28]: Is it, is that part of it?
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  [SPEAKER_28]: That's how you remember things to write it out?
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  [SPEAKER_14]: Absolutely.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: So there's a lot of biological mechanisms that we have for learning.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: You can assume we've evolved 150,000 years to learn in one very particular way and tech by and large just doesn't align with that way.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: So exactly like you said, one idea is if you type notes out, most people will start doing what they just call verbatim typing, basically a stenographer, here a word, right a word, which means you remember nothing, but when you're handwriting notes, what's happening is,
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  [SPEAKER_14]: By definition, you have to summarize.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: You have to make sense of what's coming at you in order to get it down on paper, then it becomes deeper.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: It becomes a little bit more you and all of a sudden you learn it.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: It's not just writing.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: It's an act of actual exploration and learning.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: So all these kind of analog methods that we've been using in the past are just simply more aligned to biology work better than a lot of the digital versions of those methods.
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  [SPEAKER_28]: So for example, you even like reading a book or reading something with paper as opposed to reading a book online.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, but even though not there's so one of the key aspects of human memory is space where in space did something occur that becomes part of the memory reform so if any of your listeners right now if you are avid readers you'll recognize this when you finish reading a book you might not remember verbatim every word you just read but you will remember where in the book something occurred like your favorite scene you'll be able to flip right to it all it's left page top left side hand side halfway through.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: When we read on a screen, there is no spatial location.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: The words start at the bottom of the screen, go through the middle, go out the top, and entire aspect of human memory just gets dumped.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: So this is why, whenever I work with college freshmen, all the research is really heavy on this.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: If they say, hey, what is the number one study technique you can tell me?
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  [SPEAKER_14]: One thing to make learning better by a printer, change nothing else about your life, but read on paper versus a screen, you will remember more comprehend better than we do on this thing.
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  [SPEAKER_28]: OK, so not only writing, but reading on a paper rather than on a screen, even though you can make notes on that screen, you're just not physically.
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  [SPEAKER_28]: You don't know where it is in the book.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: Exactly.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: It all just becomes that kind of matter of spacing.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: If you try and annotate on a screen, you kind of lose it.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: So what we find is about the five minute point of reading online, most people will switch to just skimming.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: We can track how their eyes move and they basically just start looking down lines to look for keywords in which case you're not really reading for learning anymore.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: Um, but if you want to hear something kind of scary about this though, by the way, the so the SATs.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: We chances are we've all taken the SATs when we were all growing up, the SATs had a reading comprehension section.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: Basically, it was read five, 750 word passages, answer 10 to 12 questions about each one off you go.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: Last year the SATs moved online, it became a digital version, and we know people can't really read online.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: So what happened is the new reading comprehension test.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: If your kids take the SATs instead of having long passages, they will now have 54 single sentences of about 75 words at each with one question tied to each sentence.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: And we're calling that reading comprehension.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: So rather than adapting the tool to fit what we want from our kids, or adapting our kids to fit to how the tool works,
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  [SPEAKER_14]: And redefining terms that we've been using for decades to mean one thing to mean something much lesser.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: So that actually that worries the daylights out of me.
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  [SPEAKER_28]: I mean it shows you too, they know what you know.
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  [SPEAKER_28]: They know that kids aren't, it's not so you can even pretend that they don't agree with you.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: there's no hiding it and one of the the scariest things is so with all these national international tests we know scores have been going down since 2002 but what we don't know and what people it's hard to find out is that once tests go digital so like Pisa is an international test that went digital in 2015 knee point digital like 2022
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  [SPEAKER_14]: any time a test goes digital, scores, drops, significant.
• 12:23
  [SPEAKER_14]: Wow.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: It's just what we do is we use statistics to do what's called renorming and we basically hide it.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: So if scores are getting worse, you can possibly add on another 5 to 10 percent worse.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: That's genuinely what's going on once we move on to screens.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: We just don't see it.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: Thank you, statistic.
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  [SPEAKER_28]: So how long is this information available?
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  [SPEAKER_14]: I believe it or not, the very first meta analysis we have on tech basically was from 1962.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: And it has the exact same effect size then as it does today.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: So we've known for about six decades that these tools aren't good for learning.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: But it was really only about the turn of the century that the digital stuff really started showing up and we're like, look, that was when everyone said it will be better.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: The new computers will be better.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: Give us one more year, give us more software, and it's just never gotten better.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: There's a big research I work with.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: His famous quote is he says digital technology is the educational revolution.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: We've been waiting for for 50 years and we're going to be waiting another 50.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: It's just not working.
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  [SPEAKER_28]: Jared Cunney, Horvath is with us and neurologist and author of the digital delusion.
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  [SPEAKER_28]: How classroom tech harms our kids learning and how to help them thrive again.
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  [SPEAKER_28]: Before we get to the how to help them thrive again, why do you think there's so many Chromebooks in the school where so many laptops in the school still if the stats are so available?
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  [SPEAKER_14]: There's two things on that is one, most people don't have access to the stats or they just don't care about them, but on the back of that I'd also say data believe it or not really never changes minds.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: Like if you think about something like a specialist, we knew for a couple of decades that if you worked with a specialist, you were going to have a chance of cancer much higher than people who didn't work with it, but nobody cared.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: It was only once we had a mechanism.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: Once researchers came in and said, oh, look, little pieces of a spesis can log into your long cause tumors.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: That's the mechanism.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: That's when people started to change.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: Law started to happen, things worked.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: So I think with a lot of this ed tech data, a lot of people don't know the data, and they also don't know the mechanisms.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: They don't know enough about human learning to recognize why it would be bad.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: So they just kind of keep going about their business assuming because we were told it was good.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: It's going to be good.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: And if you want to get really cynical about it,
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  [SPEAKER_14]: At the end of the day, big tech is big tech.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: It's a company and companies exist to make money.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: I don't fault anyone for that.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: That's what they do.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: When they give free Chromebooks, when they give free laptops to kids, it looks as though they're being altruistic.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: They're not.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: What happens is when you learn on a device, your learning becomes tied to that device.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: It's an issue called transfer.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: It becomes very difficult for you to move.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: You're learning away from that device.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: So in a very real sense, these people know that if I get students using them now, for the rest of their life, they will be tied to this machine in order to access the learning they did as kids.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: So it is a really strong business move on their part to say, hey, every kid needs one of these, and now I've just built basically a lifelong customer.
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  [SPEAKER_28]: Right, and that's with and that it's a profit margin.
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  [SPEAKER_28]: I'm not going to it is.
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  [SPEAKER_28]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_28]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_28]: The other thing would be this is just me talking is it better for a teacher to be at go back to a chalkboard.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: Or these, if you just look at the straight statistics, yes.
• 15:24
  [SPEAKER_14]: But I think there's a good kind of line we can draw here.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: As you've got kind of teacher-led tech and you've got student-facing tech.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: Anytime students are using the tech, put it away.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: It's not working.
• 15:36
  [SPEAKER_14]: If a teacher is driving the tech, like we've got a, I don't know, a PowerPoint design, or I'm showing you things on a board.
• 15:43
  [SPEAKER_14]: So long as I have complete control over what you're seeing and thinking, then we can use these two as effectively.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: So I think teachers still have an argument to be made.
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  [SPEAKER_28]: Good.
• 15:50
  [SPEAKER_28]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_28]: So tell me how people listening right now.
• 15:52
  [SPEAKER_28]: They might even be teachers or principals parents when they have to pick a school.
• 15:56
  [SPEAKER_28]: Now you have school choice in a lot of these states.
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  [SPEAKER_28]: How do we get the kids to thrive again?
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  [SPEAKER_14]: Uh, step one is get tech out of the classroom.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: I think banning cell phones is step one.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: Step two is going to be the wider.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: We don't need the laptops.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: We don't need the tablets.
• 16:10
  [SPEAKER_14]: That goes away.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: So if you're looking at a school, say, One of the first things I look for is do you have a computer lab.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: So by all means, we need to teach computer skills.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: But there's a difference between curriculum and pedagogy.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: curriculum is what we teach, pedagogy is how we teach, to say that we need to teach computers fine, to say we now need to teach all classes, math, English science, through a computer, that's pedagogy, that's wrong.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: So typically if a school has a computer lab or we have computers but they're set up in a very specific space, and
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  [SPEAKER_14]: That means they're very deliberate with tech.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: That means the teachers are explicitly choosing.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: Today, we will get up, we will leave our classroom, I've signed us out, we will go use tech.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: So those are the schools that tend to be tech intentional.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: You know they're using it well.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: But any school who's advertising to you, their selling point is, every kid gets a laptop, that's one of the worst things we can think of when it comes to student learning.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: So try and walk away from those if you can.
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  [SPEAKER_28]: And Jared, what about AI?
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  [SPEAKER_28]: Where is you the most if anything?
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  [SPEAKER_14]: AI is a production tool.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: AI is a tool for experts to do what's called offloading.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: So think about like, I'm a statistician, well, not a statistician, I'm a researcher, so I've had to study stats all my life.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: I can do stats, I just hate doing it.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: It takes me about two hours to do one stats set, I don't want to do it.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: So what I can do is I can use AI to do that in two minutes instead.
• 17:28
  [SPEAKER_14]: But the only reason it works is because I can vet the output immediately.
• 17:33
  [SPEAKER_14]: I know so much about the process that as soon as AI spits something out, I can say, yep, that's accurate or no, that's wrong.
• 17:38
  [SPEAKER_14]: Oh, I must have typed in something different.
• 17:40
  [SPEAKER_14]: Boom.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: So it's an expert production tool.
• 17:43
  [SPEAKER_14]: It is not a learning tool for novices.
• 17:46
  [SPEAKER_14]: When you let students use this,
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  [SPEAKER_14]: As a means of trying to achieve expertise, they start off loading skills that they never develop in the first place, which means they will never develop the skill itself.
• 17:57
  [SPEAKER_14]: So by all means they can copy paste what it says to them, but that's not a learning tool.
• 18:01
  [SPEAKER_14]: So as long as we remember AI is a production tool for experts, not a learning tool for novices, then we can think about wins the best time to bring that.
• 18:08
  [SPEAKER_28]: Should AI be part of the curriculum that the kids you learn about?
• 18:13
  [SPEAKER_14]: No, one of the weirder things about digital tools is they're so wickedly easy that I mean think about it I'm 40 plus AI came out three years ago.
• 18:23
  [SPEAKER_14]: I can use it.
• 18:23
  [SPEAKER_14]: It's a box.
• 18:24
  [SPEAKER_14]: You type words in it.
• 18:24
  [SPEAKER_14]: It's not hard So if you teach a kid how to use a tool they'll be able to use that tool But they won't be able to use any other tool if instead you teach a kid how to think and learn and then you bring the tool in
• 18:36
  [SPEAKER_14]: they'll be able to use any tool and they'll be able to adapt.
• 18:38
  [SPEAKER_14]: So the key to adaptation, with an unknowable future and changing work structure, is a generalized K through 12 education.
• 18:46
  [SPEAKER_14]: Do not teach kids tools, teach kids how to think, then they can adapt that to any tool that comes there.
• 18:51
  [SPEAKER_28]: And AI is potentially going to replace your thinking.
• 18:55
  [SPEAKER_28]: I know it already doing it.
• 18:56
  [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, I really do.
• 18:57
  [SPEAKER_28]: It's directions.
• 18:58
  [SPEAKER_28]: I used to be really good at directions.
• 18:59
  [SPEAKER_28]: I would always check a map before I leave, I would recognize things.
• 19:03
  [SPEAKER_28]: Now I don't even think about where I'm going.
• 19:05
  [SPEAKER_28]: Isn't it great?
• 19:06
  [SPEAKER_14]: And then if you visit a new city and use your GPS, you go home and you're like, I couldn't tell you anything about this.
• 19:11
  [SPEAKER_14]: I was not paying attention.
• 19:12
  [SPEAKER_14]: I have anything.
• 19:13
  [SPEAKER_28]: Yeah.
• 19:13
  [SPEAKER_28]: So I already see how I used to be good with directions, but no one will know it.
• 19:18
  [SPEAKER_28]: Because we're all stuck on out.
• 19:19
  [SPEAKER_28]: And I know if I know to have on my field lost.
• 19:22
  [SPEAKER_14]: And then we redefine it, all of a sudden we'll redefine good spatial awareness as someone who can use a GPS and we'll never recognize that no 20 years ago that meant something else and it meant something much bigger much more important than the way we're using that term now and that's my big fears the more we use tech we're going to start redefining educational terms into something much less and all of a sudden we're going to have a generation that is beneath any other generation before but we're not noticing it because hey at least they're aligning with the tool.
• 19:50
  [SPEAKER_28]: And my last question is, are you optimistic that things are changing your direction, that people are understanding that it's not your agenda, these are the facts?
• 19:58
  [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, and that's I think if you Jonathan Heights, the anxious generation was kind of that watershed moment where we've been trying for a couple of years to get cell phones out of school and people finally said, oh, we can do that.
• 20:09
  [SPEAKER_14]: And I think with that domino falling, Ed Tech, this larger Ed movement and education is going to start falling after it.
• 20:16
  [SPEAKER_14]: So I think
• 20:19
  [SPEAKER_28]: it a little bit isn't it counterintuitive progress progress progress right horses cars you know planes make the plane better make it faster okay we got digital evolution make it better give me an iPad put away the pad keep your spiral notebook when all of a sudden when it comes to learning hold off so that's interesting it's a little it's an anomaly in the way we used to living life right
• 20:41
  [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, and you got to think all the tools you just mentioned are their four adults their four experts their four us kids aren't many adults a lot of the times we try and treat kids like their little us They're the same as us.
• 20:52
  [SPEAKER_14]: They're just smaller with smaller hands.
• 20:54
  [SPEAKER_14]: They are nothing like us and I think we're forgetting that what it takes to become an effective adult is very different than what it means to be an effective adult and what we're doing with progress up here doesn't change what they're going to need to do to achieve adulthood humanhood in this realm out here.
• 21:10
  [SPEAKER_28]: and superintendents are being pushed to take on this tech.
• 21:13
  [SPEAKER_28]: Is that correct?
• 21:15
  [SPEAKER_14]: Yes, absolutely.
• 21:15
  [SPEAKER_14]: Now, it's funny what you'll see is most of the leaders are the biggest tech advocates.
• 21:21
  [SPEAKER_14]: So I work primarily in schools and I would estimate and this is just a personal estimation.
• 21:25
  [SPEAKER_14]: This isn't real data.
• 21:27
  [SPEAKER_14]: 70% of the teachers I've worked with are
• 21:29
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• 21:30
  [SPEAKER_14]: They hate it.
• 21:31
  [SPEAKER_14]: They just use it because it's the higher ups that people who aren't actually in the classroom.
• 21:36
  [SPEAKER_14]: The people without feet on the ground are the ones pushing this.
• 21:39
  [SPEAKER_14]: But as soon as you're in a classroom when you're the one who has to deal with the repercussions, ask any teachers been in a classroom for longer than 10 years, are your kids doing better or worse today and 10 years ago?
• 21:48
  [SPEAKER_14]: Two a man they will tell you worse.
• 21:50
  [SPEAKER_14]: So the teachers know it's just the leaders who haven't quite figured it out yet.
• 21:53
  [SPEAKER_28]: but you did and thanks so much.
• 21:55
  [SPEAKER_28]: I go pick up his book, especially if you're a parent and you're wondering about these same topics, the digital delusion, classroom tech, harms our kids learning.
• 22:03
  [SPEAKER_28]: Jared, Koonie Horvatt, thanks so much, Doctor.
• 22:06
  [SPEAKER_28]: I appreciate it.
• 22:06
  [SPEAKER_28]: Thank you.
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• 30:04
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• 36:38
  [SPEAKER_28]: And you said, yeah, you don't want to walk around at night around here.
• 36:42
  [SPEAKER_34]: Yeah, I'm not saying it's perfect.
• 36:44
  [SPEAKER_34]: But it is nothing compared to San Francisco.
• 36:47
  [SPEAKER_34]: Oh, yeah.
• 36:47
  [SPEAKER_34]: And how awful.
• 36:48
  [SPEAKER_34]: Which is where I lived.
• 36:49
  [SPEAKER_28]: I mean, is this mayor helping San Francisco this new mayor?
• 36:55
  [SPEAKER_34]: I don't know.
• 36:55
  [SPEAKER_34]: I don't live there anymore.
• 36:56
  [SPEAKER_34]: I mean, I hear both sides.
• 36:57
  [SPEAKER_34]: I hear some people saying it's better.
• 36:59
  [SPEAKER_34]: He definitely is connected to the business community and knows that that needs to be revived.
• 37:04
  [SPEAKER_34]: I mean, there's no downtown.
• 37:06
  [SPEAKER_34]: You know, it took four or five years for them to send people back to work in offices from COVID.
• 37:13
  [SPEAKER_28]: Which isn't seen.
• 37:14
  [SPEAKER_34]: I mean, when Luri took office, which is just a few months ago, he just now called for city employees to go back to the office to go to work.
• 37:23
  [SPEAKER_34]: So it killed the downtown, all those, you know, local residents, lunch shops, clothes, the restaurants, clothes, the homeless took over, drug-using homeless took over, 50% of the storefronts closed down and are boarded up in downtown San Francisco.
• 37:37
  [SPEAKER_28]: It's incredible.
• 37:38
  [SPEAKER_28]: And now the 49ers have all those injuries on top of that, but unrelated to Jennifer, you're
• 37:44
  [SPEAKER_28]: The other thing about Colorado, in particular, you just were telling me about the misgendering.
• 37:50
  [SPEAKER_28]: I thought you weren't kidding.
• 37:51
  [SPEAKER_34]: No, no.
• 37:51
  [SPEAKER_34]: It's a law now.
• 37:52
  [SPEAKER_34]: A law just was signed by Governor Polis, misgendering is a crime.
• 37:58
  [SPEAKER_34]: And there's several applications here.
• 38:01
  [SPEAKER_34]: We are actually suing my business, XXX, why athletics is suing the state of Colorado.
• 38:05
  [SPEAKER_34]: Because there's this sort of public accommodations, you know, that's the language.
• 38:11
  [SPEAKER_34]: They use that an individual is should be free from being misgendered and discriminated against in public.
• 38:18
  [SPEAKER_34]: So if I have a pop-up shop and somebody comes into my shop and I say, can I help you serve?
• 38:24
  [SPEAKER_34]: And it is a man and address that thinks he's a woman, I could be criminally charged.
• 38:29
  [SPEAKER_28]: You, that's so insane.
• 38:31
  [SPEAKER_34]: I know, even Gavin Newsom wouldn't sign a law like this into, I mean, literally, he didn't sign a law like this into being.
• 38:38
  [SPEAKER_34]: So, Colorado's lost his mind.
• 38:40
  [SPEAKER_34]: There's several lawsuits against the state on this one, because the other application is a child can be taken from the home if a parent does not affirm.
• 38:49
  [SPEAKER_28]: So the kid comes home at 14 years old and says I want to be able to boy wants to be a girl.
• 38:54
  [SPEAKER_28]: And the parent says, no, you're not that they might take the kid.
• 38:57
  [SPEAKER_28]: It's tough.
• 38:58
  [SPEAKER_34]: Yeah, if the school finds out if child protective services find out they could or in a custody battle if one parent affirms and the other doesn't.
• 39:05
  [SPEAKER_28]: unbelievable so we just found out that transgender the whole thing is plummeting big time as a lot to do i think with the people waking up and sobering up transgender identification of free fall among young americans and they just analyzed data from uh... twenty twenty five compared it's down from was uh... was down to up nine percent out of three percent right as a youth among youth yeah it was a trend and unfortunately some children permanently altered their bodies
• 39:33
  [SPEAKER_34]: to late for them to late.
• 39:34
  [SPEAKER_28]: Yeah, but he said a lot of them were so for some reason there's an an ordinary amount of celebrities doing this.
• 39:40
  [SPEAKER_28]: It's like every, to be cool to show you talent.
• 39:45
  [SPEAKER_34]: It's a, uh, yeah, it's a big virtue signal to have a child that is trans and be a celebrity.
• 39:51
  [SPEAKER_34]: It's like carrying an air mass Birkin bag, I think, these days.
• 39:55
  [SPEAKER_28]: A couple of things.
• 39:56
  [SPEAKER_28]: Let's talk about your business, X, X, X, Y.
• 39:58
  [SPEAKER_28]: With it, you have, there's a lot of challenges in the clothing industry and making things here.
• 40:03
  [SPEAKER_28]: Have you been able to make things here?
• 40:05
  [SPEAKER_34]: We make our hats in America, we make basically make accessories in America, hats and water bottles.
• 40:11
  [SPEAKER_34]: We have an amazing water bottle manufacturer and we're working really hard to bring more manufacturing for our t-shirts and our performance where into America.
• 40:19
  [SPEAKER_34]: It's tough.
• 40:19
  [SPEAKER_34]: There's not a ton of capacity.
• 40:21
  [SPEAKER_34]: There aren't a lot of factories and there's not a lot of capability.
• 40:24
  [SPEAKER_34]: they're just aren't sewing machine manufacturers here even anymore because all the factories left 25 years ago.
• 40:30
  [SPEAKER_34]: So, I think there's going to be increasing demand for me in the essay and more people are going to build factories and I think we'll be able to do it, but it's not something you can do overnight.
• 40:39
  [SPEAKER_28]: Well, but that's why the tariffs really affect you guys.
• 40:42
  [SPEAKER_28]: How is it affected?
• 40:43
  [SPEAKER_34]: It impacts us for sure, but that's okay.
• 40:45
  [SPEAKER_34]: We're not raising prices.
• 40:46
  [SPEAKER_28]: Right, is it hard?
• 40:48
  [SPEAKER_28]: And you would like to, this way I've heard from CEOs is they said that we just like to know where it's going.
• 40:53
  [SPEAKER_28]: Like not knowing and the change is so hard to budget.
• 40:56
  [SPEAKER_34]: We've just built in increased pricing and assumed slightly lower margins for the time being.
• 41:03
  [SPEAKER_34]: You know, we're just starting out we're only 18 months old.
• 41:06
  [SPEAKER_34]: I assume I'm going to gain all of that back with scale.
• 41:09
  [SPEAKER_34]: Yeah.
• 41:10
  [SPEAKER_34]: As my cost of goods goes down with scale,
• 41:13
  [SPEAKER_34]: I'm not going to pass this on to the customer.
• 41:16
  [SPEAKER_34]: I'm going to work on figuring it out myself.
• 41:18
  [SPEAKER_34]: Bringing down my cost of goods, bringing more manufacturing here into the United States, and we'll work it out over the next two years.
• 41:25
  [SPEAKER_28]: I also noticed, too, is that people who are moving look at it, get out of China, and Vietnam might be an alternative.
• 41:33
  [SPEAKER_34]: We don't make anything in China.
• 41:34
  [SPEAKER_34]: That's my role.
• 41:36
  [SPEAKER_34]: No, there's no transparency.
• 41:38
  [SPEAKER_34]: You can't, you're not allowed in the factories.
• 41:40
  [SPEAKER_34]: There, we visit every single factory.
• 41:42
  [SPEAKER_34]: We know the people who make our products.
• 41:44
  [SPEAKER_34]: We see the working conditions.
• 41:46
  [SPEAKER_34]: We feel good about the working conditions.
• 41:48
  [SPEAKER_34]: You can't do that in China.
• 41:49
  [SPEAKER_34]: For me, that's just a non-starter.
• 41:52
  [SPEAKER_34]: But Vietnam has great capability in terms of performance innovation, those fabrics.
• 41:57
  [SPEAKER_34]: So we do, we do make some stuff there.
• 41:59
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• 42:02
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• 42:03
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• 47:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Here's me, sir.
• 47:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm so sorry, man.
• 47:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like two quarters short.
• 47:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: You have anything?
• 47:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: I have one.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: One, man, that'll work.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, a quarter's good, better nothing.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Your name, man.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Can you hold this for a second?
• 47:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: I got five hundred dollars for you.
• 47:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't need your help.
• 47:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, is it going to help out?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I tell you, it's six to one.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: This is real.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It is, man.
• 47:35
  [SPEAKER_33]: Oh, that's real.
• 47:37
  [SPEAKER_33]: No, it's to the point where I can only get certain things done one at a time.
• 47:41
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• 47:42
  [SPEAKER_33]: Yeah.
• 47:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, by the way, you helped me out when you're, like, barely staying afloat yourself.
• 47:47
  [SPEAKER_33]: You know what to do with you?
• 47:52
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• 48:00
  [SPEAKER_33]: Thanks.
• 48:01
  [SPEAKER_28]: So that is just a slice of Jimmy Darts' life.
• 48:03
  [SPEAKER_28]: He's got a brand new book called Undercover Kindness, saying, yes, I'll have no to fear in embracing the life-changing power of ordinary generosity.
• 48:12
  [SPEAKER_28]: Jimmy, welcome.
• 48:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, thanks so much for having me.
• 48:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: The book's out today, right?
• 48:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: You have just came out and hopefully you had encourages people that, yeah, ordinary generosity is powerful.
• 48:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think so often we celebrate someone right in a million dollar check or this non-profit, which those things are great, but it's really the small acts that never get noticed that really is what this country is made of.
• 48:34
  [SPEAKER_28]: So tell me the premise, we came up with this idea and what you're actually doing.
• 48:38
  [SPEAKER_28]: You're putting people to the test.
• 48:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so about five years ago, I started following Jesus when I was 18 years old, but the Lord put on my heart.
• 48:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: He goes, Jimmy, I want you to make videos, or you ask strangers for help.
• 48:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: And when they help you change their life, and I was like, that's a pretty wild concept.
• 48:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: I've never heard of that.
• 48:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: And so I began just asking people for a dollar at the gas station, or for pretending like you're homeless.
• 48:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, just all types of things.
• 49:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I would dress the part, I have different outfits and stuff I put on and basically just go everywhere from alleyways to Walmart's to laundry mats and that first kind stranger that helps me out.
• 49:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: We then reward their kindness with $500 and the crazy thing is it doesn't start that stop there just begins and millions of people online see these acts of kindness and go, you know what?
• 49:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: I want to help this lady this guy more and so yeah, just last week we raised over $400,000 for a couple living in their car.
• 49:31
  [SPEAKER_28]: So tell me that.
• 49:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 49:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: So there's a pastor, one year old daughter, they had, they were living in their car.
• 49:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: Just lost his full-time job and I came up on them and immediately goes, I know who you are and I was like, dang it, I can't do a kindness test on this guy, you know who I am.
• 49:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then I was like, actually,
• 49:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: The fact that he was honest and wasn't trying to pretend like he didn't know me, I think he just passed the test and it was the honesty test.
• 49:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: And so I gave him a thousand bucks for his honesty, him and his wife, we're just balling their eyes out and sure enough, I upload this video on YouTube, TikTok and yeah, we raised over $400,000 for them and they're off the streets now.
• 50:08
  [SPEAKER_28]: And so your goal would be to see if people would help other people and then in turn, they pass the honesty test and then you reward them and then you post that and then you get people the opportunity
• 50:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely, because these people that have helped me out in these videos, they've been living a lifestyle of kindness and have never been noticed for it, never been rewarded for it.
• 50:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: And the Bible talks about, don't grow weary and doing good, because in due season, God will reward you.
• 50:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: And so it's so cool seeing these people that give their last $5, and they think that's all that's going to happen.
• 50:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: And the next thing they know, they've got 50 to $100,000 coming in.
• 50:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: I like to say it's kind of the opposite of winning the power ball.
• 50:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's not, these people don't get a blessing on the foundation of greed trying to take, but they actually get a blessing on the foundation of generosity, which is, I think, why they're able to steward it so much better.
• 50:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: So you said you had a vision of this happening.
• 51:00
  [SPEAKER_28]: How had that come across?
• 51:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, just sort of follow in Jesus and I deleted my old videos.
• 51:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: I used to do crazy pranks and wild stuff when I was younger, party videos.
• 51:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I just felt the Lord being like, yeah, I want you to use your gifts for me.
• 51:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I want you to go and I want you to highlight the kindness that's in the country.
• 51:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: There's so many things we hear in the articles and this and that.
• 51:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: But the truth is, if you just drive across the country and your car, go on to gas stations, talk to people and stores, you'll find that so many Americans really have incredible costs.
• 51:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: So people blow you off, right?
• 51:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: Some people do but honestly a lot of them don't and even if they do I can understand it's a random guy coming up to you You know, so we never highlight the people.
• 51:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's a no.
• 51:40
  [SPEAKER_28]: It's all about highlight in the one that says yes So we're using example of Sebastian the blind broom channels.
• 51:46
  [SPEAKER_28]: Yeah, so let's listen
• 51:47
  [SPEAKER_37]: How much for the brooms?
• 51:52
  [SPEAKER_37]: I got 1 to 6 or 2 for 2 bucks.
• 51:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: They pretty good brooms.
• 51:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know I start sleeping before it meets the R. And that's we've been still to R. Alright, you think you peel a new one for 5?
• 52:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I've got as 5 on me right now.
• 52:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, really?
• 52:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
• 52:08
  [SPEAKER_37]: I couldn't get a job so I decided to create my own door for hire me when I went to Wintermuse people for so my cane so they just gave it to someone who could see it.
• 52:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: But what's the hardest thing you've been through recently?
• 52:20
  [SPEAKER_37]: It's a combination to cancer.
• 52:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Really, you have cancer?
• 52:24
  [SPEAKER_37]: Not me, my wife.
• 52:25
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• 52:31
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• 52:33
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• 52:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: I got it.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It hasn't got all their fear for me.
• 52:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but Hillary, can I give you a hug?
• 52:43
  [SPEAKER_28]: Yes, yes.
• 52:44
  [SPEAKER_28]: So describe that situation.
• 52:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so Sebastian is a man who was on the corner and Mesa Arizona selling mobs and brooms and he's blind.
• 52:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: And so out toers on the corner.
• 52:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so he just trust that people give him the amount they're saying they give him.
• 52:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I had heard stories of people stealing stuff from him.
• 53:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: All this.
• 53:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, man, I want to go ask this guy for help.
• 53:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: So sure enough, he gives me a discount on a broom.
• 53:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: I give them a thousand bucks and a couple days later I fly back into Arizona because I live in California to go surprise them and I post on Instagram I say hey come here if you want to be at the surprise and sure enough news station showed up We were able to surprise them with over a hundred thousand dollars.
• 53:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: We had a line.
• 53:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: That was about a hundred yards long of everyone buying out everything
• 53:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: and his dream was to be a car salesman but no one would give them the shot because he was blind and obviously it just didn't make a lot of sense well a guy was there who owned a car dealership and he goes guess what all hire you Sebastian the crowd goes crazy he works there he sold like five cars in his first month and so it's a chapter in the book the first blind car salesman in the state of Arizona.
• 53:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: Wow, so how many do you think you've done so far?
• 53:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh man, we've probably done hundreds, hundreds of people.
• 53:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I've been doing this for over five years.
• 53:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it's been so encouraging, honestly.
• 53:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: Just the people, all types of situations, any stereotypes getting broken, like you really just anyone and everyone at any time, rich, poor, they have nice cars, they don't have anything.
• 54:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: People are generous and it's the most powerful thing in the world is thinking about others and not yourself.
• 54:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: Man, they they encouraged me to do this one.
• 54:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: My dad told me five years ago when I was sitting on his deck.
• 54:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was working at his restaurant Jimmy's in Walker, Minnesota, and I'm out in the deck he goes, what do you want to do with your life?
• 54:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: I go, well, I guess it must not be working for you.
• 54:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: And so I said, well, if I could do anything, I mean, I know it's not a real job, but I'd like to be like Santa Claus year around, just go around, bless people,
• 54:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, well, what do you mean start tomorrow?
• 54:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't like, he goes, yeah, if you're serious about it, start tomorrow.
• 54:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I got my Honda drove across country and just did with what I could.
• 54:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, the $50 I had, the $100 I had, take someone pair sailing by someone a meal, started recording these videos and they grew and grew and sure enough.
• 55:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: Now we've raised a, yeah, millions of dollars.
• 55:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: How big's your team?
• 55:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's just me and It's just my wife helps out here and there who does the shooting who does this video with like a hidden camera Where yo, and I edit it everything.
• 55:17
  [SPEAKER_28]: Wow, and you were doing it originally just doing parties and you knew you had a pretty good at that
• 55:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I was doing wild stuff back in the day before I met the Lord.
• 55:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was just, you know, kid who went to church, but never really knew following God didn't look like church attendance, it looked like relationship with Jesus.
• 55:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: And when God got a hold on my heart, when I was 18 years old, it changed everything.
• 55:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I laid down my gift of videos, everything, and was a missionary living in India, Brazil, Australia.
• 55:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: And that's when the Lord said, hey, I want you to go back into this, but I want you to do it for me.
• 55:47
  [SPEAKER_28]: So under cover kind of saying yes to love, no to fear and embracing the life-changing power of ordinary generosity as Jimmy Dort's book, the guy who you wrote, the guy who asked people for help, then changes their lives.
• 56:00
  [SPEAKER_28]: And the thing is, have you kept yourself anonymous enough?
• 56:02
  [SPEAKER_28]: I know like, for example, the impractical jokers, they don't really, they're hysterical, but everybody knows them.
• 56:08
  [SPEAKER_28]: So it's hard for them to sneak up on people.
• 56:10
  [SPEAKER_28]: How do you handle it?
• 56:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I honestly, I, so I use a hidden camera.
• 56:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: So if you watch my videos 99% of that, I don't ever see my face.
• 56:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's not my face.
• 56:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's like a first person of you, of the person.
• 56:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then I just go up to people that aren't, you're really young people that are, you know, technologically savvy and on TikTok and stuff.
• 56:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: I go to people that seem you know a little bit older or I've picked up pretty good out of read people if they know who I am or not and yeah for the most part I very rarely run into somebody that understands what's going on.
• 56:41
  [SPEAKER_28]: So give me an example if you can if like how you line up a potential situation sometimes you have to walk around for a while to get a subject.
• 56:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, sometimes I drive around on my car like I did a video where I was going to ask the first person to give me a hug and five hundred bucks and I drove around for eight hours and never felt peace to go up to somebody.
• 56:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: I just felt like the Lord was not that person.
• 57:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm driving home, the sun setting, I'm like, God, you're crazy.
• 57:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like why you tell me to shoot this video, but no one you gave me peace about and as I'm driving home, I see this guy and he's on a bike.
• 57:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I feel like the Lord goes, that's the person.
• 57:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I pull over.
• 57:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: As this guy for a hug, he stops his bike with his feet because he didn't even have brakes, gives me a hug.
• 57:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: I go, man, thank you so much.
• 57:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: I want to see the first person kind of enough to take time to give me a hug and just encourage me.
• 57:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: Here's 500 bucks this cruel man just starts weeping and he ends up sharing that that day.
• 57:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: It worked the boss paid to everybody except for him and he had gotten taken advantage of.
• 57:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: And so yeah, we raised $40,000 for this guy.
• 57:37
  [SPEAKER_28]: and so a guy in a car pulls over a guy in a bike.
• 57:40
  [SPEAKER_28]: Yeah, he's got no brakes on his bike and just for a hug, you do it and then that's five or the other.
• 57:46
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• 57:50
  [SPEAKER_28]: Thank you so much.
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