Latest / DEEP INSIGHT / 'Temper tantrum' - Sen. Reed says Trump doesn't have policy knowledge after scraping bill signing
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Right now, President Trump is meeting with Senate Republicans on
- 0:03Speaker 1: the Hill, just hours after he abruptly canceled the signing
- 0:06Speaker 1: of a major piece of bipartisan housing legislation, Trump warning
- 0:11Speaker 1: he will not sign it a little less Republicans pass
- 0:14Speaker 1: his restrictive voting bill, the Save Act. Democratic Senator Jack
- 0:17Speaker 1: Reida Rhode Island, joins me now. He sits on the Banking, Housing,
- 0:20Speaker 1: and Urban Affairs Committees and is the ranking member of
- 0:23Speaker 1: the Senate Armed Services Committee. Senator, thank you so much
- 0:26Speaker 1: for being with us. Your reaction to what the President
- 0:29Speaker 1: did this morning.
- 0:33Speaker 2: Astounding. The President was supporting this bail vigorously. That's one
- 0:38Speaker 2: of the reasons that passed the House. And also it
- 0:42Speaker 2: was such a bipartisan measure, it was obviously it should
- 0:45Speaker 2: be signed. To suddenly announce that he's not signing it
- 0:49Speaker 2: is it reflects, I think, a just tepo tantrum by
- 0:54Speaker 2: the President, which is often the case, and it signifies
- 0:59Speaker 2: also that he does not, I think, have a conscious
- 1:03Speaker 2: and thorough knowledge or policy and the Republican Party in
- 1:08Speaker 2: the Congress.
- 1:09Speaker 1: So one of the reasons I wanted to make sure
- 1:11Speaker 1: we spoke with you today is that some of your
- 1:13Speaker 1: Republican colleagues actually crossed the aisle to check Trump's war powers.
- 1:16Speaker 1: This has been an ongoing, evolving conversation and effort. Your
- 1:20Speaker 1: sense of what has finally moved Republicans in this direction.
- 1:25Speaker 2: Well, I think what they've seen is that all of
- 1:28Speaker 2: the assumptions that the President made about this war were
- 1:34Speaker 2: entirely incorrect. The regime did not fall. In fact, what
- 1:39Speaker 2: happened is that the new regime is more ardent and
- 1:43Speaker 2: more fanatical, and they've seized upon an asset, the straight
- 1:47Speaker 2: up amuse, which imperils the entire world economy. And also
- 1:51Speaker 2: they've just seen the lack of not only cooperation, but
- 1:55Speaker 2: of constitutional responsibility by the President. This was a war
- 2:01Speaker 2: which he sought no authority from the Congress, which is
- 2:05Speaker 2: required on the Constitution. And then I think the other
- 2:08Speaker 2: factors weighing in is the fact that this directly contributes
- 2:12Speaker 2: to inflation in the United States and practically everything, and
- 2:18Speaker 2: he seems to be at this point without any thoughtful
- 2:22Speaker 2: or practical ideas how to successfully end this other than
- 2:27Speaker 2: trying to pay off the iranium.
- 2:29Speaker 1: Senator, the Pentagon is asking Congress for eighty billion dollars
- 2:33Speaker 1: to fund Donald Trump's war with iron So that number
- 2:37Speaker 1: eighty billion, it's far higher than the number we heard
- 2:41Speaker 1: from Hegsat's twenty nine billion. That was the estimate for
- 2:43Speaker 1: the cost of the war. Your sense of what the
- 2:46Speaker 1: actual number is, how much money does the administration really need.
- 2:51Speaker 2: Well, eighty billion is a low estimate. It in my view,
- 2:56Speaker 2: it's anywhere from one hundred to one hundred and fifty billion.
- 3:00Speaker 2: I don't think they're counting any of the destroyed infrastructure
- 3:05Speaker 2: of our bases in the area. I think they're just
- 3:09Speaker 2: trying to to get in as much money as they
- 3:11Speaker 2: think will be politically possible. But this is in the
- 3:16Speaker 2: context too of the president asking for over a one
- 3:19Speaker 2: trillion dollar defense budget and in addition a three hundred
- 3:22Speaker 2: and fifty billion dollar reconciliation bill for defense. So this
- 3:27Speaker 2: is a point at which the spending is absolutely out
- 3:31Speaker 2: of control. And also flighting our domestic programs was a
- 3:36Speaker 2: critical to the country. So and I think this is
- 3:40Speaker 2: simply the eighty billion or down payment, not a full payment.
- 3:45Speaker 1: So I want to stay on this point. And this
- 3:47Speaker 1: is a little processing, but I actually think it matters
- 3:49Speaker 1: because you have said that funding that the number we're
- 3:51Speaker 1: just talking about for the iron supplemental It can't be
- 3:54Speaker 1: done in isolation. It has to be done after lawmakers
- 3:57Speaker 1: agree to a total spending amount for both defense and
- 4:00Speaker 1: defense programs. Help me understand what kind of timeline that
- 4:03Speaker 1: puts us on.
- 4:05Speaker 2: Well, what is happening is there was an attempt this
- 4:09Speaker 2: week tomorrow to have another appropriations markup, and I serve
- 4:13Speaker 2: on the Appropriations Committee, but because of the absence of
- 4:16Speaker 2: Senator McConnell, they've called it off. They don't have the
- 4:21Speaker 2: votes to pass the bills they want to pass. But
- 4:25Speaker 2: we're still in the situation and you've, Alicia pointed it out.
- 4:29Speaker 2: We need, as we've always had in the past, a
- 4:32Speaker 2: top line, how much we're going to spend on defense,
- 4:35Speaker 2: how much we're spending on domestic program and there we
- 4:38Speaker 2: can go forth and create and categorize, prioritize defense spending
- 4:44Speaker 2: and domestic spending. Until we get that top line, we're
- 4:48Speaker 2: just sort of wandering around talking past each other. Senator.
- 4:51Speaker 1: In the last hour, we talked about the latest senior
- 4:54Speaker 1: military departure, of course, forced our General Chris Dannau decorated officer.
- 4:59Speaker 1: He was the last soldier to leave Afghanistan. Can you
- 5:02Speaker 1: just make it clear for folks who are watching, what
- 5:08Speaker 1: the cost, what the danger is to the homeland of
- 5:11Speaker 1: someone like CD Donniue departing the Pentagon.
- 5:16Speaker 2: Well, fir Us General Doniu is the exemplar of the
- 5:20Speaker 2: military officer. He took his days at West Point duty,
- 5:26Speaker 2: honor and country and turned it into a career of
- 5:28Speaker 2: sacrifice and courage and service. And anyone who served with
- 5:34Speaker 2: him is very proud that he served with him. And
- 5:36Speaker 2: I think what this sends as a signal is that merit, quality, courage,
- 5:44Speaker 2: soldierly characteristics are not as important as political associations with
- 5:51Speaker 2: the president. The danger we have right now is that
- 5:55Speaker 2: the President and Hagstath are trying to politicize the military.
- 6:00Speaker 2: And one of the great strengths of our military over
- 6:02Speaker 2: a centuries is that it was not a political institution.
- 6:05Speaker 2: It was an institution dedicated to the Constitution. And that
- 6:09Speaker 2: is concerning many many people, particularly the men and women
- 6:13Speaker 2: in uniform.
- 6:15Speaker 1: Senator Jack read the great state of Rhode Island. Senator,
- 6:18Speaker 1: thank you so much for your time today.
- 6:19Speaker 2: Thank you, Elisha