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UFC Freedom 250 | ‘Medical News’ with Dr. Jim Keany · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
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  Speaker 1: six forty.
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  Speaker 2: It is a Wednesday morning, May twenty seven. Some of
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  Speaker 2: the big stories we are looking at. Ken Paxton last
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  Speaker 2: night in the Republican primary cleaned John Cornan's clock. Cornyan
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  Speaker 2: had been a Senator for twenty four years. The President
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  Speaker 2: endorsed Paxton. Now Wood Paxston have won anyway, probably, but
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  Speaker 2: it became overwhelming with the President's endorsement, proving you do
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  Speaker 2: not want to get if you're a Republican, you don't
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  Speaker 2: want to get on President Trump's wrong side for sure. Also,
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  Speaker 2: there's a cabinet meeting this morning at Kim David I believe,
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  Speaker 2: where the President is talking to his cabinet about what's
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  Speaker 2: going on with Iran. And here is the problem. President
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  Speaker 2: Trump has underestimated Iran in terms of how long they
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  Speaker 2: can hold out. The Iranians think that the President is
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  Speaker 2: going to come to public pressure because we're just going
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  Speaker 2: to get tired of this, which we already are. Both
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  Speaker 2: have underestimated the other. Trump doesn't particularly care about public pressure.
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  Speaker 2: He just does what he does, and the Iranians are
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  Speaker 2: being underestimated. Trump doesn't quite understand the Iranians. That's the
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  Speaker 2: way I see it.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Now, let's move to the governor's race in California, and
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  Speaker 2: there are a lot of issues at stake, and one
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  Speaker 2: of the big issues has to do with facial hair, mustaches,
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  Speaker 2: and beards. So for the first time since the Great Depression,
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  Speaker 2: we could elect a governor with.
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  Speaker 1: Facial hair and whiskers.
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  Speaker 2: Mustaches, beards are playing a big role in an election
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  Speaker 2: where cost of living, homelessness, public safety, Well, it's a
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  Speaker 2: big deal for us. So Chad Bianco, top Republican candidate
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  Speaker 2: in the state, admits that his thick and salt pepper
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  Speaker 2: cop mustache is a major draw. There's a guy named Charlie.
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  Speaker 2: This was a Wall Street Journal article. A guy named
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  Speaker 2: Charlie driven ninety minutes to a gun store to see
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  Speaker 2: Bianco with a chaker a gun store, and he says
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  Speaker 2: that mustache shows strength. Now, Bianco's GOP rival, Steve Hilton,
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  Speaker 2: now has a salt and pepper beard that has his
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  Speaker 2: supporter saying that Donald Trump Junior hailed this as a
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  Speaker 2: maga beard. Well, Bianco and his backers aren't impressed because
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  Speaker 2: they question Hilton's motus.
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  Speaker 1: For growing the beard and all it.
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  Speaker 2: Does is expose his follicle deficiency in comparison to Bianco's
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  Speaker 2: upper lip. Go figure JD Vance with the President likened
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  Speaker 2: to a young Abraham Lincoln with his beard, is the
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  Speaker 2: first vice president with facial hair since Charlie Curtis Mustache
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  Speaker 2: served under President Herbert Hoover almost a century ago. And
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  Speaker 2: Ted Cruz's beard. L Magazine described it as the remnants
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  Speaker 2: of an everything Bagel.
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  Speaker 1: Is a senator with the beard.
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  Speaker 2: Zorn Mandami, mayor of New York Democratic Socialist, said his
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  Speaker 2: beard began as a symbolic middle finger to stereotypes of
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  Speaker 2: Moslim Muslims Is terrorists, and he's the first New York
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  Speaker 2: City mayor with a beard in over a century. Pete Boodhagge,
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  Speaker 2: potential presidential contender who I like the best at this point,
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  Speaker 2: has a new beard.
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  Speaker 1: Huh.
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  Speaker 2: And the public publication queerity Gay publication, because Boodhajic has
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  Speaker 2: come out Gay has declared that this has secured him
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  Speaker 2: the first vote.
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  Speaker 1: That's th h I R S T.
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  Speaker 2: We're emerging, emerging, re emerging in this kind of a
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  Speaker 2: new bearded age. According to Sean Trainor, let me go
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  Speaker 2: through this a minute, okay, he has investigated this because
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  Speaker 2: Sean Traynor is a facial hair historian. Now, let me
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  Speaker 2: ask you a question. Number one, none of us know
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  Speaker 2: what a facial hair historian is. How many of us
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  Speaker 2: have woken up in the morning or as a kid,
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  Speaker 2: you know when you go to school, I want to
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  Speaker 2: be the president, I want to be a fireman, I
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  Speaker 2: want to be a policeman. How many kids say I
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  Speaker 2: want to be a facial hair historian? Very strong? And
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  Speaker 2: why are beards and mustaches such a big deal? Well,
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  Speaker 2: a greater informality, grooming in speech, we got the manosphere,
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  Speaker 2: more rugged. Musculinity is playing a role when you think
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  Speaker 2: about it, that's true.
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  Speaker 1: I mean we go through cycles.
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  Speaker 2: Look at the seventies with the ridiculous hair and the sideburns,
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  Speaker 2: and then we go through the short hair. And now
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  Speaker 2: we go through the three day beard, which every model
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  Speaker 2: seems to have, particularly the women, and you have the
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  Speaker 2: short hair, and it's where the Marlboro man is coming
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  Speaker 2: back with a three day beard. So Bianco has accused
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  Speaker 2: Hilton of growing a beard to compete with his mustache
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  Speaker 2: that he first grew as a teenager, and the sheriff said,
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  Speaker 2: because he's had his mustache forever of Bianco, he changed
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  Speaker 2: his appearance, grew a beard because he has to look tough,
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  Speaker 2: and I can grow a mustache and most people can't.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Hilton says he's given literally zero thought to Bianco's upper lip,
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  Speaker 2: and he noted some have likened Bianco's mustache to Yosemite
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  Speaker 2: Sam And there is a debate about Bianco's mustache. What
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  Speaker 2: do you call it? Some say it's a walrus mustache.
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  Speaker 2: Others say it's a horseshoe version of the one worn
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  Speaker 2: by Hulk Hogan. The latest polls show that Hilton is
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  Speaker 2: actually leading the polls against Democrat Xavier Besserah, who is
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  Speaker 2: clean shaven.
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  Speaker 1: Think of that.
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  Speaker 2: The last sitting governor with facial hair is an official
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  Speaker 2: portrait you'll see it of James Sunny Jim Rolfe had
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  Speaker 2: a toothbrush mustache. Who the hell has a toothbrush mustache anymore.
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  Speaker 2: There was a guy in the thirties in Germany who
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  Speaker 2: did that, and they're sort of out out of favor
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  Speaker 2: at this point, and he died. Sunny Jim died of
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  Speaker 2: a heart attack in nineteen thirty. So there we go. Mustache,
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  Speaker 2: no mustache, beard, no beard, and that seems to be
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  Speaker 2: an issue not bad who would have thunk okay? And
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  Speaker 2: also Ken Paxton yesterday lost to John Cornyn for the
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  Speaker 2: in the Republican primary where the President endorsed Paxson, and
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  Speaker 2: that is a big deal, which I'm sure we're going
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  Speaker 2: to talk about coming up now. If you look at
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  Speaker 2: video and photos at the south lawn of the White House,
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  Speaker 2: what you will see is this huge archway the structure
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  Speaker 2: at the bottom of which there is a cage match facility,
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  Speaker 2: a cage match what do they call this just basically
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  Speaker 2: a cage match stage for UFC that's Ultimate Fighting Championship,
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  Speaker 2: and the championship is going to take place June fourteenth.
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  Speaker 2: Of cranes and construction equipment on the White House lawn
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  Speaker 2: and it shows the beginnings of this temporary construction and
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  Speaker 2: the President said that this finished project will feature a
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  Speaker 2: five thousand seed arena outside the front door of the
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  Speaker 2: White House. And if you look at renderings, this completed
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  Speaker 2: wire mesh fence ring fight space is what they call it.
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  Speaker 2: What's it going to look like? It's an octagon shaped cage.
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  Speaker 2: It'll be ring by red, white, and blue stage under
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  Speaker 2: this huge arch featuring stars and stripes, and two large
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  Speaker 2: screens so you can see the live action. And there's
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  Speaker 2: going to be thousands of temporary seats that are ringing
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  Speaker 2: the stage, including ringside space for a full marching band.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this is going to be a big deal.
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  Speaker 1: And what is this amount? Two hundred and fifty years.
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  Speaker 2: The Sesta Quinson or the cis Quin Centennial, two hundred
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  Speaker 2: and fifty years of America and strangely enough, Donald Trump's
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  Speaker 2: birthday now, which I think is pretty terrific because the
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  Speaker 2: founding fathers created this country based on the fact that
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  Speaker 2: President Trump was going to be eighty years old and
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  Speaker 2: they wanted the formation of this country took coincide. Now,
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  Speaker 2: Trump first floated the idea of hosting a UFC fight
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  Speaker 2: at the White House last year in Idaho when he
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  Speaker 2: had men at appearance, and that's when he announced the
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  Speaker 2: plan celebrating.
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  Speaker 1: The country's two hundred and fiftieth birthday.
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  Speaker 2: Now, to be fair, he has been a fan of
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  Speaker 2: USC for many, many years.
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  Speaker 1: This is not just sort.
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  Speaker 2: Of pie in the sky just for a quick political
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  Speaker 2: political statement.
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  Speaker 1: No, No, He's been a genuine fan.
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  Speaker 2: It's just that when you're president you can say Hey,
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  Speaker 2: I want this over there. I want that south lawn.
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  Speaker 2: I want this built lot like a new ballroom. I
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  Speaker 2: I will say, it will be done.
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  Speaker 1: What's that movie? I do it and they will come.
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  Speaker 1: What's that baseball? Pardon?
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  Speaker 2: Field to dreams? And it's if you field dream? They
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  Speaker 2: will come as you go. If I build it away,
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  Speaker 2: build it and they will come. Thank you for that.
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  Speaker 2: And so he said they'll be twenty to twenty five
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  Speaker 2: thousand people there.
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  Speaker 1: No, they'll be about five thousand.
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  Speaker 2: And in December, the President said the event would host
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  Speaker 2: eight or nine championship fights.
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  Speaker 1: No, they're going to be two.
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  Speaker 2: But these will be the biggest fights they've ever had,
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  Speaker 2: the biggest fights that ever was, that ever was, or
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  Speaker 2: will be. However, it's gone down from eight or nine
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  Speaker 2: to only two and there are two title fights, and I.
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  Speaker 1: Can't wait to see it now.
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  Speaker 2: One of the things that I was having a conversation
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  Speaker 2: with my lovely wife, who has a real problem with
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  Speaker 2: the president and where this country is going, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: really a big problem. She won't even watch the news.
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  Speaker 2: News comes on. She goes in the other room because
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  Speaker 2: the news of President Trump is there all the time,
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  Speaker 2: and here's and she just has a huge problem, and
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  Speaker 2: people do by the way I mean too, I mean
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  Speaker 2: not just a huge problem problem, I mean fundamental, visceral.
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  Speaker 2: The kind of reaction that this president can get on
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  Speaker 2: both sides of the political arena evoke just feelings that
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  Speaker 2: I don't think we've ever had, certainly in my memory.
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  Speaker 2: And so here's my take on this is stuff like
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  Speaker 2: this is just fun. This is not fundamental to the
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  Speaker 2: way America works. This is not tariffs, This is not
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  Speaker 2: a war in Iran, this is not tax policy, is not.
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  Speaker 1: Immigration that affects many people. This is just fun.
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  Speaker 2: This is entertainment with a capital e. It's very Trumponian.
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  Speaker 2: The it's you know, it doesn't hurt anybody. It's doesn't
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  Speaker 2: change the way we view of life. It's no surprise
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  Speaker 2: that this is happening. It's I'm enjoying it. I really am.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's absolutely great. I can't wait for the panoply.
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  Speaker 2: I can't wait for the president coming in and everybody
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  Speaker 2: will be seated and the fighters will be in the ring,
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  Speaker 2: and the President will come in when the band plays
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  Speaker 2: Hail to the Chief, and there'll be fireworks.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the case, but can.
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  Speaker 2: You imagine, well, I can how great a spectacle this is,
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  Speaker 2: and that's what it's going to be.
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  Speaker 1: It's a spectacle. But this is a president who likes spectacles. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I mean that's a given.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 1: He has not changed his tune.
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  Speaker 2: And this is one of the things about Donald Trump
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  Speaker 2: that I truly appreciate. There's no hidden agenda with Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 2: I was just talking to someone the other way. If
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  Speaker 2: you look at his his interviews which he did in
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  Speaker 2: his twenties and thirties as he was building parts of
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  Speaker 2: New York and was asked about the future of America
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  Speaker 2: and what he thinks and where it's going to go,
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  Speaker 2: it's exactly the same as he's saying now. He has
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  Speaker 2: not changed his views. I mean, you get what you
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  Speaker 2: gets with the president, and very few presidents that do
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  Speaker 2: exactly what they're going to say. I can't think of
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  Speaker 2: one other than Donald Trump coming out to be a Democrat. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but it hasn't changed his views other than abortion. That there,
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  Speaker 2: he's changed his views, but it is that was in
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  Speaker 2: the seventies. I mean, come on, you know we're talking
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  Speaker 2: about a while ago.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Doctor Jim Kinney, chief medical officer for Dignity Saint Mary
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  Speaker 2: Medical Center in Long Beach and e er doc and
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  Speaker 2: Jim once again. It's a Wednesday at eight thirty and
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  Speaker 2: Jim comes aboard, which he's done for the last what
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  Speaker 2: thirty years? Okay, Jim Kyle Busch died last week. So
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  Speaker 2: here he is forty one years old, obviously healthy, at
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  Speaker 2: least it seemed that way. And he we're told he
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  Speaker 2: you know, in in the hospital for an undisclosed illness,
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  Speaker 2: and then ten minutes later he's dead. And I understand
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  Speaker 2: it was sepsis, So let's talk about that. And it
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  Speaker 2: sounds pretty dangerous.
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  Speaker 3: The perfect example of how dangerous sepsis is. It's it's
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  Speaker 3: probably the number one cause of sudden death like this
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  Speaker 3: in hospitals, and something that we're definitely, you know, attuned
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  Speaker 3: to and looking for and very much focused on because
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  Speaker 3: of what you know, look at this. This is a
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  Speaker 3: young athletic, you know, presumably healthy individual who just succumbs
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  Speaker 3: to sepsist very rapidly. I mean rapid not rapidly. I'm
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  Speaker 3: not really sure, right, because it sounds like it was
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  Speaker 3: about a week before that he started getting symptoms of
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  Speaker 3: like a sinus infection. Then he started having a cough
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  Speaker 3: and then at some point he was coughing at blood
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  Speaker 3: and went and went to the hospital. There's not a
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  Speaker 3: lot of details, but it sounds like he only went
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  Speaker 3: to the hospital the day before he died. So that
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  Speaker 3: is the issue with young healthy people, as they tend
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  Speaker 3: to be able to tolerate these things a little bit
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  Speaker 3: better and they may not feel quite they may feel bad,
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  Speaker 3: but they feel like, well, I can just push through it,
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  Speaker 3: you know, especially an athlete like Kyle.
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  Speaker 2: So the way you describe it, and the onset of sepsis, okay, fine,
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  Speaker 2: sinus problems sound like a cold so far that.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't go to the hospital for that.
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  Speaker 2: Now coughing up blood, you're in the hospital instantaneously, So
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  Speaker 2: do you have you I'm assuming you've seen sepsis many
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  Speaker 2: times in the er, right.
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  Speaker 3: You're assuming what times you've seen? Yeah, absolutely so, lots
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  Speaker 3: of lots of people suffering from sepsis, seeing that quite
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  Speaker 3: a bit. And uh, and that's what happens is it's
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  Speaker 3: a what we're looking for are signs and symptoms of
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  Speaker 3: sepsis that that are a little bit more objective, right,
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  Speaker 3: like a rapid pulse or like a high respiratory rate
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  Speaker 3: for a low blood pressure. So those are the kind
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  Speaker 3: of things you might not be able to assess at home.
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  Speaker 3: But if you feel like your you know your heart's
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  Speaker 3: racing and there's no good explanation for it, and especially
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  Speaker 3: if there's any signs of infection and your heart is racing,
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  Speaker 3: that's something you should probably go get checked out. I
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  Speaker 3: think that's probably one of the earliest missed signs. I
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  Speaker 3: would say is when when I look at cases of
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  Speaker 3: people who have sepsis and somebody missed it along the
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  Speaker 3: way or when the diagnosis was at all delayed, it's
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  Speaker 3: usually that their heart rate was fast, and people just
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  Speaker 3: gave excuses for why their heart rate was fast.
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  Speaker 2: But we're talking so that basically you're saying a heart
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  Speaker 2: rate is fast, but that can be virtually one of
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  Speaker 2: dozens of symptoms, diseases, syndromes, I'm assuming. So let's say
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  Speaker 2: someone does come in with an elevator heart rate and
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  Speaker 2: you are looking at the possibility of sepsis.
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  Speaker 1: Is there a test right there or is it a
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  Speaker 1: blood test that you pull and will tell you.
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  Speaker 3: Instantly you know it's not. No, not at this stage
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  Speaker 3: of the game, there's not a blood test, although there's
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  Speaker 3: one interesting one that's being developed that it has to
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  Speaker 3: do with deforming white blood cells in the way they
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  Speaker 3: squish under the microscope shows you whether they're responding to
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  Speaker 3: stepsis or not. But that's not in general common use
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  Speaker 3: yet there's a few hospitals using that more commonly. What
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  Speaker 3: we're doing is just looking at the constellation or symptoms,
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  Speaker 3: so you have what we consider a source of infection,
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  Speaker 3: and then there's some set criteria for what we call
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  Speaker 3: systemic inflammatory response, and those are things like high pulse,
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  Speaker 3: high restray rate, high blood pressure or low blood pressure,
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  Speaker 3: high white blood cell count. If you have those things,
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  Speaker 3: now we start saying, well, this that we're very concerned.
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  Speaker 3: This is sepsis. So that's when we start treating you
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  Speaker 3: with fluids and antibiotics. And then we kind of, you know,
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  Speaker 3: have some time. Once we're treating you now with fluids
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  Speaker 3: and antibiotics, we have a little time to kind of
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  Speaker 3: sort out things like a blood culture result. Like if
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  Speaker 3: we get blood cultures but they only come back positive
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  Speaker 3: about half the time. In sepsis, we don't always we're
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  Speaker 3: not always able to grow the bacteria in a dish somewhere,
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  Speaker 3: so it's it's not as easy as as you're saying.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's not easy to diagnose, But at the
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  Speaker 3: same time, when you have infection plus those constellation of symptoms,
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  Speaker 3: that's a little bit more than just a simple like
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  Speaker 3: I have the flu or something like that. Although mimic sepsis.
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  Speaker 2: So what are you talking about infection? What kind of
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  Speaker 2: an infection? You know, you cut yourself, for example, you
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  Speaker 2: have a Yeah, so.
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  Speaker 3: You cut yourself and you've got pus coming out of
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  Speaker 3: a cut, and now all of a sudden, your heart
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  Speaker 3: rate is super fast. You're breathing fast. That's not normal,
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  Speaker 3: and so you know, just a small infection in your
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  Speaker 3: skin shouldn't be causing that. You know, same thing, you
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  Speaker 3: have a urinary tract infection and it just seems like
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  Speaker 3: your normal urinary tract infection. But your heart is racing,
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  Speaker 3: you're breathing fast. Those are signs that it could be sepsis,
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  Speaker 3: and we need to do some tasks. We do blood tests.
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  Speaker 3: If they come back elevated, then we can diagnose sepsims.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, you don't think much about it until someone dies like this.
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  Speaker 2: So there's another ooh, I like this. So there's another
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  Speaker 2: you're going to die next week story. Thank you for that, all.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Jim.
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  Speaker 2: Here is something we hear all the time, and that
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  Speaker 2: is the older we get, the less sleep we need.
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  Speaker 1: Number one. Is that true?
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  Speaker 2: And I know there's a new study that talks about this,
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  Speaker 2: so I'm going to throw it to you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, so this new study does show so that
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  Speaker 3: maybe we need less sleep than people think. So to
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  Speaker 3: optimize aging, it looks like from this study anyway, you
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  Speaker 3: need between six and a half and eight hours of sleep. Now,
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: I think sleep is highly individualized, so I think it's
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: it's probably hard to really pigeonhole yourself into that. I
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: think that you should kind of listen to your body
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  Speaker 3: on this one. You know, if you sleep too long,
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: you don't feel great. If you don't sleep enough, you
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: don't feel great. There's probably a sweet spot for everybody
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: that's a little bit different. And I think that's a
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: pretty wide range six six and a half to eight hours.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: But the study itself is kind of interesting. They took
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: the UK bio data, which is half a million people
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  Speaker 3: that signed up back between like two thousand and six
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: and twenty ten, and they have a lot of their
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: data is collected over time, it continues to be collected
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: and even now that there's wearable some of them even
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: connect their wearable devices to this data. So it's a
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: huge data set of half a million people that researchers
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: can study. And what they're doing is it's kind of
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: data dredging. This is not a new study. What they
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: went in and they built a kind of an AI
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: that would evaluate different markers for different aging processes and
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: different organs, so the brain, the heart, lungs, all of that.
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  Speaker 3: And they looked at the reported sleep and compared that
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: to the results they were getting on that person's data
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: for their aging. And it turned out that that it
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: was a U shaped curve. So if you got too
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: much sleep, it was bad, you age faster. If you
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: got too little sleep, it was bad you age faster.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: And that sweet spot in the middle was about six
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: and a half to eight hours. So how do you
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: individualize that to yourself? As you know, I wouldn't stress
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: if you're not getting eight hours. Some people don't need
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: that much and they do just fine and they can
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: actually optimize their biomarkers for aging even without eight hours sleep.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: Quick question about feeling refreshed waking up refreshed. I've been
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: around for a fair number of years. Ever in my
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: life not once woken up refreshed.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: What is that about?
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you probably just have trouble sleeping, and you know
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: people who well, especially the fact that you're at your work.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: I mean you're getting up at crazy hours, You're going
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: to bed the whole the whole morning crew. I don't
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: know how you guys maintain your sanity, you know, getting
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: up at these crazy hours.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: And if you listen to the show, not even Cold
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: entertain How about.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Naps, I have a question naps A twenty minute power nap,
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: What the hell is that about?
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: And refreshing.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: If I take a nap for it's three hours for
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: one thing, and I'm groggy until I go.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: To sleep, well that's because you're living, So those are
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: That's actually really good question asked because a lot of
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: people say that, and what that means is your sleep deprived.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: That's exactly what it means. If you can fall asleep
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: easily in the middle of the day, you clearly are
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: sleep deprived. That's not normal. So yeah, I for the
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: most part, most people probably don't need n apps. They're
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: not if you're getting enough sleep. But if you're not
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: getting enough sleep, absolutely then enough short power nap in
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: the middle of the day can help. The problem is
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: you do it too late in the day and you
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: screw up your sleep the next day that next night.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: All right, Jim, thank you, and we go again next
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Wednesday as always.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: All right, see you?
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Then all right, see you.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Then go ahead and kill someone always fine. Let's say
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: we're done, guys, completely finished. We come back again tomorrow
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: morning with Amy and Will wake up call and then
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Neil and I jump in and codo and and finish
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: up the team here on KFI, Gary and Shannon up
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: next and we're up. Do we do this again tomorrow morning?
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, okayeah, yeah, it'll be fun, come on, yeah. Fun. Yeah,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: that's the word I'd use, more fun. It'll be refreshed, refreshed,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: rushed and fun. Yeah yeah, okay KF I am six.
• 24:06
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