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8-run sixth inning! Burleson and Wetherholt homer on WILD Opening Day! · Cardinal Territory: A St. Louis Cardinals Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to another edition of Cardinal Territory.
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  Speaker 2: Big opening.
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  Speaker 1: They went to the Cardinals, so we have a lot
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  Speaker 1: to chop up. Jim Hayes alongside Lance Lynn and Kyle
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  Speaker 1: Gibson and gentlemen, you know what we do.
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  Speaker 2: We start with.
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  Speaker 3: All right, guys, Jim are going about this.
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  Speaker 2: The wrong way here.
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  Speaker 3: What if we have everybody that needs to subscribe subscribe?
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  Speaker 3: What if we say, hey, maybe send this to one
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  Speaker 3: of your friends that needs to hear more about the Cardinals.
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  Speaker 2: You're right, Okay, So maybe Kyle can sert signing baseballs
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  Speaker 2: and we can send him to new subscribers, or you know,
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  Speaker 2: there's all kinds of stuff we can pull off.
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  Speaker 3: And say would you rather have a Lance Lynn ball
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  Speaker 3: or a Kyle Gibson ball? And then I think we
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  Speaker 1: Obviously, Kyle, but I do like the premise of if
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  Speaker 1: you're a subscriber, tell a friend. So opening day in
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  Speaker 1: Saint Louis, Cardinals with a big nine to seven, come
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  Speaker 1: from behind when lots to talk about, But the first
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  Speaker 1: thing I want to talk about is opening Day in
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  Speaker 1: Saint Louis because look, I was there and I almost forgot,
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  Speaker 1: Like you see the Red Jackets, the Clydesdale was a
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  Speaker 1: beautiful day, see her right and all that, but there
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  Speaker 1: is truth to it, and you guys have been through that.
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  Speaker 1: So Lance, I'm going to start with you opening day
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  Speaker 1: in Saint Louis, and you've been to other opening days. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: it is special in Saint Louis, don't you agree with it?
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  Speaker 2: So what makes it special? I mean yeah, one hundred percent.
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  Speaker 2: You start off with clyde Zales, Right, nobody's got that,
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  Speaker 2: and there's and there's no way to there's no way
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  Speaker 2: to match it. And then you have all the Hall
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  Speaker 2: of Famers are there, and then you know fans are
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  Speaker 2: are in the in the building. It's packed. So they
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  Speaker 2: do it right in every form, honoring the new season,
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  Speaker 2: honoring the past and everything, all the traditions. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you can't beat what they've what they've put together there,
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  Speaker 2: and they do a great job with it. And I
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  Speaker 2: know is one of those places where no matter how
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  Speaker 2: many times you go through it, it's it gives you
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  Speaker 2: the like the goosebumps. You get that feeling of excitement
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  Speaker 2: and kind of nervousness too when you're riding around in
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  Speaker 2: there doing all that. So it's always a fun time
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  Speaker 2: that time of year.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think Opening Day is really special.
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  Speaker 3: You know, every team thinks that they do Opening Day
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  Speaker 3: really well, and most teams do. But I think the
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  Speaker 3: different touches of having the Clydes Dales and and the
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  Speaker 3: Bush connecttion, uh you know, creates a different idea and
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  Speaker 3: create different dynamic, I should say. And then the Hall
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  Speaker 3: of Fame, the Red Jackets at home plate, it's pretty cool,
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  Speaker 3: you know, getting to go and shake the hands of
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  Speaker 3: the cardinal greats, which man, I can't wait to see
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  Speaker 3: the Lance in a couple of years, having a handshake
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  Speaker 3: everybody as they walk past, and just you know, getting
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  Speaker 3: that fresh beard out there in a red jacket's gonna
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  Speaker 3: be really good.
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  Speaker 2: It would be a nice touch opening day. Yeah, we
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  Speaker 2: might just have to go check that out.
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  Speaker 1: So all right, I'm gonna make that a priority.
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  Speaker 2: Get Lance his red jacket. Let's do that.
• 3:35
  Speaker 1: So oh there's again. Well, I mean they'll get the
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  Speaker 1: they'll get those guys in and then we'll work on it.
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  Speaker 1: So eight to nine to seven win for the Cardinals,
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  Speaker 1: eight runs in the six, a lot of two strike hits,
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  Speaker 1: Burly with the with the big blast. It's one game.
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  Speaker 1: I get that, but you know, we're looking to accentuate
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  Speaker 1: the positive. But it's one game. But is there Lance?
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  Speaker 1: Is there anything to glean from that? They got some
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  Speaker 1: good pitching from Libby, JJ had his first homer, they
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  Speaker 1: had a nice comeback. Is there anything to glean from that?
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  Speaker 2: Say it what you want, Jim, You're gonna say that
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna win it all one hundred and sixty two
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  Speaker 2: and oh after that comeback, that's what it's all about
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  Speaker 2: right here. No, it was exciting to see right when
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  Speaker 2: you're you've got a young team and all that. You
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  Speaker 2: want to see their fight, and you saw it right away.
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  Speaker 2: They're not going to give up. They're going to be scrappy.
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  Speaker 2: I'm looking through that any I see the bunt hit
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  Speaker 2: by Victor and all that. The things that they can
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  Speaker 2: do up and down the lineup are there. You know,
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  Speaker 2: now it's going to be consistency and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: But to be able to come back kind of you know,
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  Speaker 2: having the blow up any any four where they give
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  Speaker 2: up six to come back and score eight is a
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  Speaker 2: huge thing. It's all about, you know. Michael Dretti used
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  Speaker 2: to say right back, but he used another word in
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  Speaker 2: the middle. And when you're able to come right back,
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  Speaker 2: when you get kind of slapped in the face and
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  Speaker 2: then turn around and do it right back to them,
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  Speaker 2: that's huge and it's also huge for your As the
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  Speaker 2: year builds on, you're gonna find some chemistry. They're gonna
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  Speaker 2: they're gonna have some fun with it, and you see
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  Speaker 2: the youth of hey, we're not out of it. We
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  Speaker 2: can do some things and we can have fun while
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  Speaker 2: we're doing it and show some energy. So it was
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  Speaker 2: exciting to see that because they're gonna have some ups
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  Speaker 2: and downs this year, but they're not going to be
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  Speaker 2: scared to fight back right out of the gate. And
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  Speaker 2: that was fun because opening day half the team probably
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  Speaker 2: was their first real opening day, so to see them,
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  Speaker 2: you know, hey, they you know, then Scorny runs early
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  Speaker 2: and then we're able to come back and do that.
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  Speaker 2: All in all, it was that, you know, when you
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  Speaker 2: win their first game, that's great, but when you're able
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  Speaker 2: to you know, turning around after giving up six and
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  Speaker 2: then coming back and doing that, that's a a huge
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  Speaker 2: first win and it can create some energy which will
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  Speaker 2: be fun. But they're gonna have some ups and downs.
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  Speaker 2: But that was a fun, fun first game.
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  Speaker 1: And we've seen, you know what, this team is young.
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  Speaker 1: You know, no one expects them really to do a ton,
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  Speaker 1: but for a young team to win a game like that,
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  Speaker 1: that's the opener. That's a big boost, you know, in
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  Speaker 1: terms of letting them know who they really are or
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  Speaker 1: what they can do.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I just think it's it's a lot more fun press
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  Speaker 3: conference for Ali, right, I mean I think it it
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  Speaker 3: was going to be. It turned from you know, Alie
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  Speaker 3: is this kind of like you know how things are
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  Speaker 3: going to be to Alie tell us about the positives here, right?
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  Speaker 3: I mean I think if you dive into it a
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  Speaker 3: little bit, I think it does a lot for Swanson.
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  Speaker 3: I know, he gave up the three runs, but man
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  Speaker 3: to know that the team came back and fought back
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  Speaker 3: and really picked him up. That's a really good feeling.
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  Speaker 3: Roy Croft is the one that kind of ran into
• 6:41
  Speaker 3: some tough luck there with the ball not even leaving
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  Speaker 3: the infield, and then Jojo O'Brien and Stanik. I think
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  Speaker 3: that's really a good sign at the back end when
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  Speaker 3: the team got the lead back. You know, Lance says
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  Speaker 3: right back, when the bullpen says, no, we got this lead,
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  Speaker 3: now we're holding. It looks like three innings. Really really
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  Speaker 3: good job by those guys, but man, what a what
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  Speaker 3: an inning? Just compounding a bad after about I think
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  Speaker 3: seven or eight straight hits, you know, and against some
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  Speaker 3: good relievers, right, That's kind of what I wanted to
• 7:15
  Speaker 3: look up here. I think, you know, they did it
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  Speaker 3: against Seymour, who I was with him in Triple A
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  Speaker 3: and when he came up and pitched last year, he
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  Speaker 3: was nasty. He's a funky lefty. He didn't get an out.
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  Speaker 3: Clevenger had a sub two and a half e RA
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  Speaker 3: last year. He was nasty, he got one out, and
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  Speaker 3: Griffin Jack's nasty. I mean they did it against three
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  Speaker 3: of their better arms in that bullpen. So I think
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  Speaker 3: that's a that's a pretty cool sign for the young
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  Speaker 3: team to fight back and be able to do that,
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  Speaker 3: and who knows if it creates moming them to win
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  Speaker 3: the series or not. But like Lann said, you can't
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  Speaker 3: win one hundred and sixty two if you don't win
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  Speaker 3: the first one.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what we expect one hundred and sixty two,
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  Speaker 1: I know, So no one has more pressure on in
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  Speaker 1: my opinion, then JJ Weather, like a lot of guys,
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  Speaker 1: are getting, you know, opportunity these but the expectations are
• 8:02
  Speaker 1: through the roof for JJ Weatherhold, who's a really mature kid.
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  Speaker 1: I've talked to him, and what does he do in
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  Speaker 1: his very first game, his first game as a big leaguer,
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  Speaker 1: first hit as a big leaguer happens to be a
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  Speaker 1: homer on an O two pitch. His mom said she
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  Speaker 1: thought he was going to strike out. I interviewed her
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  Speaker 1: in game, and he takes an outside fastball and crushes it.
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  Speaker 1: So for a guy like that who's getting his first
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  Speaker 1: exposure to Major League baseball, the crowds you know that
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  Speaker 1: you see in Big League Baseball opening day in Saint Louis,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't that say some about the kid lands that he's
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  Speaker 1: able to deliver, you know when everyone's looking at him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, definitely but you look at the pitch
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  Speaker 2: he hit Man that was about three or four inches
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  Speaker 2: off the play out in the way and to go
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  Speaker 2: Burman Center. I think the way he hit the home
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  Speaker 2: run tells me something that I liked more than just
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  Speaker 2: hitting the home run to go to center as a
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  Speaker 2: young kid at Bush Stadium, which is one of the
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  Speaker 2: art places to go to center at on a ball
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  Speaker 2: off the plate away, I'm like, Okay, so this guy's
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  Speaker 2: not afraid to cover the ball away and do things
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  Speaker 2: like that. And then he's able to hit the sacifly
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  Speaker 2: later against a lefty, so he's got an idea what
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  Speaker 2: he's trying to do. He's able to cover tough pitches.
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  Speaker 2: He's able to cover off the plate and do stuff.
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  Speaker 2: It's not like he has to be in one area.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's a first game, but it doesn't seem
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  Speaker 2: to be that he has to be in one area
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  Speaker 2: to do damage, especially if you can do damage dead
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  Speaker 2: center off the plate away. So yeah, it's going to
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  Speaker 2: be a fun uh you know energy that he's going
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  Speaker 2: to bring. And then you you know, you you partner
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  Speaker 2: that with Mason up the middle, they've got a really
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  Speaker 2: fun group. And then even Victor with what he can
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  Speaker 2: do with his speed and all that, and he's gonna
• 9:45
  Speaker 2: get on base and and do all that stuff. They're
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  Speaker 2: they're creating a fun environment for young kids that are
• 9:51
  Speaker 2: very talented and very athletic to do a lot of things.
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  Speaker 2: And when he said, you know, it's your first game,
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  Speaker 2: but he is mature. He did go to college, he
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  Speaker 2: did go through the grind of you know, a big
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  Speaker 2: time school in college, and then went through the minor
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  Speaker 2: leagues last year. He knows what he's you know, capable of,
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  Speaker 2: but he knows how to cover things that you know,
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  Speaker 2: maybe it takes up longer guys to you know, figure out,
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  Speaker 2: but right out of the gate, he looks like he
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  Speaker 2: belongs and now you mess him with those other guys,
• 10:20
  Speaker 2: there's gonna be a youthful energy that is going to
• 10:22
  Speaker 2: be fun to watch, especially if they you know, do
• 10:25
  Speaker 2: do the comebacks and stuff like that. But it's you know,
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  Speaker 2: right out of the gate, that's a that's a great
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  Speaker 2: first day.
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: Fun fact about JJ Kyle. He also homeward in his
• 10:34
  Speaker 1: very first college game too. So this guy seems like
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: he will be worth the price of admission. There's gonna
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: be some ups and downs, like like Lance said, but
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: I think JJ is going to be the real deal
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  Speaker 1: that fans are gonna want to show up and watch
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  Speaker 1: him do his thing.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you know, I don't like to put
• 10:54
  Speaker 3: the weight of a franchise on people, but when you
• 10:57
  Speaker 3: have a couple of years of high draft picks, and
• 11:00
  Speaker 3: you have a high draft pick like JJ was, if
• 11:04
  Speaker 3: they don't pan out, it kind of stinks. I mean,
• 11:07
  Speaker 3: it kind of hurts how you play in the franchise
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  Speaker 3: because you drafted JJ Weatherhole with a purpose and for
• 11:13
  Speaker 3: a reason to do what he's doing. So those are
• 11:16
  Speaker 3: the kind of draft picks that either you know, really
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  Speaker 3: help the turnaround or delay the turnaround. So, once again,
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  Speaker 3: not to put pressure on the kid, because everybody's human,
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  Speaker 3: but I think this is who the look of one
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  Speaker 3: game is, who the Cardinals are really hoping they get, right.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, you probably didn't have this on the
• 11:34
  Speaker 3: list of things to talk about, but I kind of
• 11:36
  Speaker 3: would be interested to see what roster construction, what lineup
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  Speaker 3: construction looks like. If you put Mason at one and
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  Speaker 3: JJ at two, and then that allows Herrera to shift
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  Speaker 3: to three, that allows Burlsen to shift to four, and
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  Speaker 3: probably takes a little bit of pressure off JJ, and
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  Speaker 3: I think JJ with a little extra thump than Mason.
• 11:56
  Speaker 3: Mason's a guy that's going to get on base at
• 11:58
  Speaker 3: a decent clip. And then I think you have a
• 12:01
  Speaker 3: chance to be up to nothing instead of one nothing. Look,
• 12:04
  Speaker 3: having Schobert leadoff for the Phillies works out great, a
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  Speaker 3: lot of leadoff homers and you know, leading off innings.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, I think it probably adds a little
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  Speaker 3: bit to it with Mason being in front of him.
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  Speaker 3: And then not that Mason can't handle being the four hitter.
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  Speaker 3: I think he can as long as his mindsets right.
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  Speaker 3: But he's not your stereotypical four hitter. You know, you
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  Speaker 3: want as many guys in front of Herrera and Burlson
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  Speaker 3: to be on base as possible.
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  Speaker 2: I like that. I'm with you on that.
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  Speaker 1: All right, fellas, we talked about a bunch of things
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  Speaker 1: from the Cardinals opening day when we touched on Libby,
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  Speaker 1: So you talk about pressure too. Libby wants that pressure.
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  Speaker 1: He said on this podcast in the off season he
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  Speaker 1: wanted to be the opening day starter. There all eyes
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  Speaker 1: and that's Libby. I think he delivered, right. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you look at at his line. Five innings, one earned,
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  Speaker 1: just a couple of k's. I'm sure he wanted to
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  Speaker 1: see some more strikeouts, but uh, he pitched around a
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  Speaker 1: lot of things. And and uh, at Lance, you touched
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  Speaker 1: on it. That's your first start of the season where
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, especially first opening day, right, everything that happened, I
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  Speaker 2: think he was able to navigate it and do the
• 15:25
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  Speaker 2: be like perfect your first came out. There's different intensities,
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• 15:36
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  Speaker 2: and nothing really usually goes on time. So when you
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: walk out of it with you know, five innings of
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: one run baseball, if you say all right, cool, and
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: then you can kind of be like all right, I
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: can take a deep breath and then I can get
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: ready for my next one. So when you look back
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: and say, all right, five innings, one run only what two?
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: K's okay? Hey you it was it was not you know,
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: didn't get to six and wouldn't quality. But when you're
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: an opening day and your first opening day start as
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: a fig leaguer, you look up and you're like, all right,
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: I got through it. Now I can I can kind
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: of just reset and then try to, you know, just
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: build off of that as the season comes on. And
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: there's nothing worse than giving up a bunch your first
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: game of the year because then it's like you go
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: into scramble mode. So to come out of it very
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: solid start, you know a lot of different emotions that
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: are hard to explain. He was able to weather all
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: that with you know, the hits and stuff like that.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: So I you know, i'd give him a you know,
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: very solid first opening day and you know, a good
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: one to build off for the season.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: Count for you first start of the season is that
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: like sort of uncharted territory you didn't really know what
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: to expect.
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know that i'd say that.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think first opening day probably you know,
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: like Lance said, you know, you got a lot of
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: different a lot of different timing mechanisms going on, and
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: it's it's just like Lance said, it's not a smooth
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: day really for position players and certain things. Okay, fine,
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: but you know, for a starter, you're really almost looking
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: at a guaranteed non rain rain delay. I mean, you're
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: gonna you're just guessing at what time the timing of
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: everything's gonna be. So yeah, I thought Libby through the
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: ball well, you know, just kind of looking where he
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: was at. He was at seventy eight pitches through five
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: against a raised lineup that historically is just really they're scrappy.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: They're a good bunch. They've got a lot of really
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: good hitters in this lineup. Had he not been facing
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: three out of four rities coming up in the sixth inning,
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: he clearly goes back out, I would guess, but a
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: one run ball game, you know, decision to go to
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: the bullpen there with the off day and let your
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: guys do it. And that decision didn't work out. But Libby, Yeah,
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: I like this stuff. Strikeouts. You know, you're talking to
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: a guy that was never a big strikeout guy. So
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: I hear you on the strikeouts. Everybody wants swing and miss,
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: but shoot navigating the lineup with his stuff and getting
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: through five innies in one run. You know, we'll take
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: thirty two more of those. You know, book it right now.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: So happy for Libby, good first opening day start, and
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: definitely want to keep things rolling. So it's pretty good.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, see seeing something good to build off for, That's
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: what it was for Libby young team. One of the
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: young guys really showed up yesterday, Nathan Church and three hits,
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: climbed the wall to rob a home run. This is
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: a guy who's like perennially the Cardinals' best defensive outfielder
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: in the minor leagues, and he hits a little. Now
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: he's getting a chance, I mean, gets the start. What
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: do you think they might have lance with Church?
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: I think he brings something a little different than I
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: think anyone wants. Right, It's like everybody wants these out
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: corner outfielders to hit home runs and this and that.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: He's a contact guy, he's going to know the strike zone,
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: he's going to play good defense, and when you have
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: guys like that in your lineup, it really pisses off
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: as starting pitcher. So I think he's a guy that
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: could be really good in the big leagues and be
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: a really quality player, especially with his defensive prowless. But
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: he's going to make you work. He's going to get
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: his hits, he's gonna you know, he's going to do
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: some things, and he's kind of always done that, but
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: he just doesn't have like okay, he doesn't or that
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: we don't project him as a thirty home run outfielder,
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: but it's like, hey, who cares, Like if this guy's
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: going to hit me too eighty, played good defense and
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: then hit me fifteen, that's a quality baseball player that's
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: going to help you win games. So I think they
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: found a guy that's a quality baseball player that's going
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: to help you win games. And I mean there's for me,
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: there's similarities on the coaching staff with a guy like
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: John Jay. That's who John Jay was. John Jay was
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: never going to hit you twenty five home runs. But
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: John Jay was a winning baseball player and he doesn't
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: did winning things, So you know, I'm not going to
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: put that comparison on him right away. But that's a
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: good guy to you know, kind of model your game
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: after Becau For a lot of time, a long time,
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: and he's still you know, in the game doing a
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: lot of great things. So if you get a guy
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: like if he turns into a John j type player,
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: you got a really good guy there. And I think
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: that there's upside to even more that you you know,
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: that might come as he goes and gets a chance
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: to prove that he's a big league player. More the
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: more timing, guess, especially since Large is going to be
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: out for at least sixty days, he can.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Do a lot of little things like he has to
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: speed and this makes this card in the lineup, I
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: guess for pictures, but for everyone kind of a pain
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: because they have a bunch of guys who could run
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: and uh that could cause problems.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: Kyle, Well, yeah, I mean I think this is what
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: about baseball to me, and how different teams do it
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: makes it so fascinating, right, Like, Okay, you can put
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: an you can put together a defensive outfield, because that's
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: kind of what it is by having Church and Scott,
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: you know, doing center and left and then you have
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: a second basement who's gonna have more thump than your
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: average second basement, right, So it really kind of makes
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: up for some of the power issues in other areas.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: So I looked at JJK to kind of take some
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: of that stress off of not having a corner outfield
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: with thump, And I think that's, like I said, that's
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: the beauty of baseball. You spread your slug out around
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: the field. It allows you to have defense, and slug
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: at second base allows you to prioritize defense in a
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: bigger outfield, you know, playing in some different outfields that
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: have some you know, like Pittsburgh has a bigger left
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: center it it really offers some flexibility there.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: And I think, you know.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: I think it's good for a pitching staff. I mean
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: I'm a little biased here, but I love the idea
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: of having a couple guys that run it down and
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: take away doubles because we can look at that too.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: How many doubles is he going to take away? Which
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: is is it more beneficial to take away a double
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: than hit a double? I don't know, but to me,
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: that evens out pretty pretty good. So if we can
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: take away six extra doubles, shoot, that's like going from
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: a twenty to a twenty six double guy at the plate.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: So I think it's gonna work out for him, and
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: I like what he's bringing to the table.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: A Burley's home run. Earlier cards don't have a lot
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: of pop. Now, Burley in that sixth inning four hundred
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: and thirty two foot homer, he knew it was a blast.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Everyone knew it was a blast. He did pimp it
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: just a little bit, but you know, after that kind
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: of ending, I think he deserves to do that. But
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: this is a guy who you know, hit for average
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: last year, has a pretty good sense of the strike zone.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: But you guys always talk about don't try to be
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: a home run hitter at bull Stadium because it will
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: cost you. Can this guy be a twenty five maybe
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: thirty home run guide.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Lance, Yeah, he can. He has that ability. Just get
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: most of them on the road. That's going to help too. Right,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: Here's the thing about Burley. We've talked about him quite
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: a bit. Burley's baseball player. He's going to do what
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: he has to do to get a hit to He
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: knows the time when it's time to go for one.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: If you told Burley, hey, I want you to hit
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: twenty five, he could hit you twenty five, but he
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: might hit two thirty and he doesn't like that. He
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: wants to be on base. He wants to be a
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: good ballplayer to help the team win. That's what people need.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: There are there are losing baseball players at twenty five
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: thirty home runs. I promise you that I don't care.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna I've played with them and they and it
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: is not fun. Don't hit me, don't hit me two
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: hundred with twenty five, and that's not going to work
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: for me. If you can hit two fifty, I mean
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Burley hits what two eighty five and hits twenty, that's
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: going to go to If it stays at two eighty five,
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: it's going to go to twenty five, just by getting
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: at bats and getting used to pitchers and knowing when
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: your time is to do it, and just getting stronger.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: And he called it Dad's strength in spring training. Like
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: that stuff matters, and it happens like you just learned
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: to clip it a little bit here when you need to.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: You get a little bit more idea what they're trying
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: to do too. So yes, if Burley you look up
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: the end of year and he's two seventy five with
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: twenty five, not shocked at all, not shocked at all.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: But if he's two ninety with twenty he's going to
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: hit you doubles and doubles, drive in runs, and do
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: things too. And that's that whole lineup. If that whole
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: lineup goes fifteen to twenty at two fifty plus and
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: hits their doubles, there are a pain in the butt team.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: And you know what team is very similar to that,
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: The Milwaukee Brewers that just annoy everyone every year in and
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: year out. And that's what they're building. I don't know
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: if people have noticed that, but hey, everyone hit over
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: two sixty, everyone hit around fifteen to twenty home runs.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Still some bases played good defense. Hey we're right in
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: the middle of this thing. We're gonna be a problem
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: for people. That's what they're building and you saw it
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: already and it's gonna be fun. What do you think
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: about Burley Kyle?
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: I love Burley. I think we Lance and I probably
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: couldn't say enough good things about Alec Burlson. From the
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: first couple weeks of spring training to the first couple
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: of dinners that we went to in twenty twenty four.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: Easy to see that this guy was a winning player.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: Easy to see that he works hard and ha the
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: tools to be a great player, and I think as
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: he gets more and more comfortable, which I know that
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: sounds crazy to think, like why would Alec Burlson not
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: be comfortable yet? But there's certain guys that don't necessarily
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: have that comfort level until they believe that the team
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: is fully on board with them being the guy. Right, Like,
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: was Burlison the first base guy last year? Nope, Wilson
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: Contraras was all right, So Burley was still finding ways
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: to get into the lineup. When hein Bloom, I'm not
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: saying he said this to Alec Burlson, but when hein
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: Bloom comes up and says, hey, Alec, we just traded
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: Wilson Contraras. Guess who's our first baseman for one hundred
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: and fifty games. You go to a buddy that's a
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: big deal, that's a big nod, a nod of confidence,
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: and a guy like Alec person who is a confident player.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: I think that does wonders for him. Put him in
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: the three hole, put him in the four hole, and
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: say hey, go hit be you. If you see it's
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: the time to hit a homer, go hit a homer.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: If you see it's time to take your hit, go
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: take your hit.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: I think he's a guy that the Cardinals fans already love.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: And you're gonna tell that that type of a baseball
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: player is going to play really well in Bush Stadium
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: and wherever they got.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Job, job well done, and uh, that's gonna do it
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: for this addition of Cardinal territory. We'll see you next
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: time for the next episode, and hopefully that one won't suck.