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  Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Hord, and thanks for downloading
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  Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast the Whoa Whoah, Sweet Child Mind
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  Speaker 1: edition as we bring you a special Father's Day episode
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  Speaker 1: featuring Jimmy Burrow, Dad of Joe, and Jimmy Chase, dad
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  Speaker 1: the greatest thing since bonding with your dad about sports.
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  Speaker 1: My love of sports came from my dad, Like many
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  Speaker 1: fathers and their children, we frequently talked about sports, and
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  Speaker 1: his favorite teams became mine. Between the NFL and NBA,
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  Speaker 1: NHL and Major League Baseball, those teams have combined for
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  Speaker 1: one championship. So thanks Dad for passing down a lifetime
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  Speaker 1: of frustration. In all seriousness, most of my favorite childhood
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  Speaker 1: memories involved sports, and many were spent with my dad.
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  Speaker 1: I can vividly remember when he took me to my
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  Speaker 1: first Major League baseball game. It was nineteen seventy three.
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  Speaker 1: My oldest sister, Kim, was an exchange student in Argentina
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  Speaker 1: and when our program was finished, we drove to New
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  Speaker 1: York City to pick her up at Kennedy Airport. It
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  Speaker 1: was my dad, my other older sister, Chris, and me
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  Speaker 1: on that trip. My dad took us to Shay Stadium.
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  Speaker 1: It was August twenty eighth, the Mets against the Podres.
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  Speaker 1: I remember Jerry Morales leading off the game with a
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  Speaker 1: home run for San Diego. I remember the impossibly high
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  Speaker 1: leg kick of the Mets outstanding rookie pitcher John Mattlack.
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  Speaker 1: I remember how heartbroken I was that my hero Willie
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  Speaker 1: Mays was not in the Mets starting lineup. And I
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  Speaker 1: remember when my sister Chris asked our dad when halftime
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  Speaker 1: was because she wanted to see the marching band. Chris
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  Speaker 1: was not a big sports fan. Most of all, I
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  Speaker 1: remember how magical it felt to be there, the immaculately
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  Speaker 1: groomed perfection of a major league diamond, the enormity of
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  Speaker 1: Shay Stadium while sitting in.
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  Speaker 2: The upper deck.
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  Speaker 1: It was a movie set come to life, and to
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  Speaker 1: that point, it was, without question, the highlight of my life.
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  Speaker 1: Here's another great sports memory with my dad. When I
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  Speaker 1: was about fourteen or fifteen years old, he took me
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  Speaker 1: on a weekend golf trip, even though he almost never played.
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  Speaker 1: It was about an hour drive and the course wasn't
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  Speaker 1: particularly memorable, but we played golf for three straight days,
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  Speaker 1: ate every meal at restaurants, shared a hotel room, and
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  Speaker 1: watched sports on TV at night. It remains one of
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  Speaker 1: my favorite weekends. Ever, now that I'm a dad, I'm
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  Speaker 1: savoring having similar experiences with my son. If you ask
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  Speaker 1: Sam to name the best day of his life so far,
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  Speaker 1: he'd undoubtedly say it was attending the Bengals Ram Super
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  Speaker 1: Bowl in Los Angeles, and when he recently made his
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  Speaker 1: first birdie, I felt like I'd made a hole in one.
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  Speaker 1: So on this Father's Day, I'm grateful for bonding over
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  Speaker 1: sports with my dad, Larry Hord, my stepfather, Jack Bailey,
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  Speaker 1: my father in law, Paul Rasconi and my son Sam,
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  Speaker 1: with Alta Fiber now, without further ado, here's my conversation
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  Speaker 1: with a pair of very proud dads. It is Father's
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  Speaker 1: Day weekend. I have the perfect guests for this particular holiday.
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  Speaker 1: Jimmy Burrow, father of Joe, Jimmy Chase, father of Jamar,
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  Speaker 1: two buddies who were at Bengals practice recently and are
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  Speaker 1: kind enough to join us on the podcast. I want
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  Speaker 1: to start by asking each of you guys this question.
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  Speaker 1: When did you first know that your son was different
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  Speaker 1: from the other kids athletically. Jimmy Burrow, why don't you
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  Speaker 1: go first.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, third, fourth, fifth grade, he was We're
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  Speaker 3: in a small town, so he was the best athlete
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  Speaker 3: in his age group. So but as I said, there's
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  Speaker 3: not many many people here, so he kind of take
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  Speaker 3: that with a grain of salt. And then as he
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  Speaker 3: started playing baseball, basketball and football, just started having a
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  Speaker 3: lot of success. And and you know, he would he
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  Speaker 3: would hit home runs and score a lot of points
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  Speaker 3: in basketball. So it was just probably just several things,
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  Speaker 3: but really football tenth grade is when I realized that
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  Speaker 3: he could he could really have some opportunities to play
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  Speaker 3: Division one football.
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  Speaker 1: Jimmy Chase, how about you?
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  Speaker 4: Oh?
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  Speaker 5: I want to say it started like around seven, eight,
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  Speaker 5: nine years old. He's playing basketball and this is his
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  Speaker 5: first year playing basketball, and all the other kids had
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  Speaker 5: been on the team already and he was the newest
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  Speaker 5: one on the team. So they put him on a
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  Speaker 5: team with the guys that wasn't that good, okay, and
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  Speaker 5: it was like one against five. Jamo just took it
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  Speaker 5: to the whole team, you know, and I was like, wow,
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  Speaker 5: this little boy is crazy. And then every year it
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  Speaker 5: just happened over and over again.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we've all heard stories about dads training their
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  Speaker 1: kids at an early age, sometimes excessively. So what did
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  Speaker 1: each of you guys do to aid in your son's development?
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  Speaker 1: Jimmy Chase, how about you go first on this one.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I had Jamaal on a rigorous workout at an
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  Speaker 5: early age. Okay, he was doing push ups. Every time
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  Speaker 5: I got in trouble, I made him do push ups.
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  Speaker 5: And you know, I think that developed his work ethic
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  Speaker 5: over the years, you know, because I always had him training,
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  Speaker 5: I always had him working out. I always had him
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  Speaker 5: doing something to showing up his craft at an early age.
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  Speaker 1: Jimmy Burrow, Well, he played so many different sports.
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  Speaker 3: I guess you know, we were just as a as
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  Speaker 3: a parent, we were there, you know, being positive and
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  Speaker 3: supporting him certainly as he got older.
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  Speaker 2: We would watch some film here and there, here and there.
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  Speaker 3: To a lot of times when I was coaching, I
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  Speaker 3: couldn't watch his his uh a lot of his early
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  Speaker 3: age football games, whether it was third fourth grade, and
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  Speaker 3: and we'd sit down and watch it, uh kind of
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  Speaker 3: have fun with it, you know. I didn't grind him
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  Speaker 3: and say, hey, you know, Monday night at eight o'clock,
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  Speaker 3: we're going to watch film or something like that we
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  Speaker 3: just kind of uh did it periodically. And and the
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  Speaker 3: good thing about Joe and I think Jamar is the
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  Speaker 3: same way as they. They love practicing, and uh so
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  Speaker 3: you don't you don't really have to as they as
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  Speaker 3: they grew up, probably and Joe for sure, I'm sure
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  Speaker 3: Jamar that you didn't have to encourage them.
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  Speaker 2: Hey you got to go to practice today.
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  Speaker 3: I mean they wanted to go to practice, they wanted
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  Speaker 3: to get better, and they wanted to hang out with
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  Speaker 3: the friends. And so that all all added up to
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  Speaker 3: to just being there for for.
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  Speaker 2: Joe and when when he needed us.
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  Speaker 1: How insanely competitive were they as kids? And here's a
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  Speaker 1: key question. When you played against them, whether it was
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  Speaker 1: a board game, whether it was shooting free throws, whatever,
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  Speaker 1: did you let them win? Jimmy Burrow, you go first?
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  Speaker 3: Not really, But it didn't take long for me not
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  Speaker 3: to have a choice in h in those type things.
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  Speaker 3: But that was the one thing I guess I I
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  Speaker 3: saw at an early age how competitive.
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  Speaker 2: Uh he was. He he wasn't a very good loser. Uh.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you try to teach sportsmanship, but uh, I
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  Speaker 3: think he respected his opponents and their their coaches.
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  Speaker 2: And but you know he was a terrible loser.
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  Speaker 3: And and uh really still is and that's just part
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  Speaker 3: of his competitive fire and and uh but he had
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  Speaker 3: he had teammates and friends like that too, so uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know that that was good for for his whole
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  Speaker 3: early stages in athletics.
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  Speaker 1: Did you let jamar win? Oh?
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  Speaker 4: I tried not to.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, he has a real, real serious competitive edge, right.
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  Speaker 5: Jamal used to cry when he lose, right, He used
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  Speaker 5: to blow a gasket. And I used to have to
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  Speaker 5: kind of like control at it because if he's losing
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  Speaker 5: or he's behind, he gets so furious he starts crying
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  Speaker 5: and he goes bananas. So I had to like kirktail
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  Speaker 5: that at an early age. That was my biggest thing, like,
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  Speaker 5: calm down, catch your bread, take your time. He was
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  Speaker 5: he was delirious, right, But we never played games together
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  Speaker 5: because number one, he didn't want me to beat him,
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  Speaker 5: and then number two, I didn't want him to beat me.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 5: I asked him to show me how to play the
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  Speaker 5: PlayStation game, and he said, you press the A button
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  Speaker 5: and you press the B button, right, But they had
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  Speaker 5: more buttons, and I'm like, you're pressing all them buttons,
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  Speaker 5: you know, so.
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  Speaker 4: Like we couldn't play together because he didn't want to
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  Speaker 4: lose to me. You know, I didn't want to lose
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  Speaker 4: to him.
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  Speaker 1: So your son's awry that lsu together or at the
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  Speaker 1: same time. Basically in twenty eighteen, Jamar was a freshman,
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  Speaker 1: Joe was a transfer from Ohio State. Do you remember
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  Speaker 1: hearing your son talk about the other dad's son for
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  Speaker 1: the first time? And what did they say, Jimmy, Chase
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  Speaker 1: you go first?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I told Joe got there before us, right, And
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  Speaker 5: I told Jamal they got this quarterback named Joe Burrow.
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  Speaker 4: He's coming down. He's like, yeah, I don't know that, dude.
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to go down, you know.
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  Speaker 5: So like he didn't really talk about Joe. He didn't
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  Speaker 5: know much about Joe, you know. And it didn't happen
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  Speaker 5: until they got that till he got that with him,
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  Speaker 5: But prior to that, he wasn't really concerned about Joe.
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  Speaker 1: When did Joe start telling you about Jamar?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean soon his practice really started when Jamar
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  Speaker 3: was there.
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  Speaker 2: I mean he knew he had Jamar.
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  Speaker 3: He said, I got some special special guys at receiver.
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  Speaker 3: It's just a matter of you know, getting us all
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  Speaker 3: together and and uh he said, Jamar, I think was
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  Speaker 3: it was a freshman, so uh it took him a.
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  Speaker 2: While to to really jail and come together.
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  Speaker 3: But uh then then after that that first year in
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  Speaker 3: the summer, Joe he just said that he he had
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  Speaker 3: a chance to in his teammates and his team had
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  Speaker 3: had a real chance to to be, uh be special.
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  Speaker 3: And and he always knew, you know, Jamar was once
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  Speaker 3: they started working together, that they they had a had
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  Speaker 3: a bond that that it's it's just hard to explain,
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  Speaker 3: and it's hard to get that bond with with quarterback
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  Speaker 3: and receiver, but they they had had it fairly quickly,
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  Speaker 3: and and uh, you know, it gets it's fun to watch,
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  Speaker 3: and it gets better every every year. It's pretty amazing.
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  Speaker 1: So the following year L s U might have been
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  Speaker 1: the greatest team in college football history. That go fifteen
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  Speaker 1: and oh, Joe wins the Heisman, throws sixty touchdown passes,
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  Speaker 1: Jamar wins the Blitakoff Award, he catches twenty touchdowns that season.
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  Speaker 1: What was that like for you two guys as parents,
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  Speaker 1: Joe Burrow or Jimmy Burrow rather you go first, Well,
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  Speaker 1: it was.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it was a lot. I mean, there was
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  Speaker 2: a lot going on.
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  Speaker 3: We're trying to to interview agents, you know, I interviewed fourteen.
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  Speaker 2: Robin and I here here in Athens. We're going to
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  Speaker 2: all the games.
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  Speaker 3: I had retired, so that made it easy for me
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  Speaker 3: to get to the games. Robin was still working, but
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  Speaker 3: she had gone to all of them anyway, So it
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  Speaker 3: was just an exciting time to be a part of it.
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  Speaker 2: And then you said, might be.
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  Speaker 3: The greatest team. It is the greatest team. So that's
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  Speaker 3: you'd have trouble convincing Jimmy, Chase and I otherwise. But
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  Speaker 3: just to watch that team grow, it's really the first team.
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  Speaker 3: And I coached for many years and watched a lot
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  Speaker 3: of lot of teams, it's the first team that I
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  Speaker 3: ever saw that literally got better every game. I mean
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  Speaker 3: the second game they were better than the first. The
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  Speaker 3: National Championship, they.
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  Speaker 2: Were just better as a team. And that's offense and defense.
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  Speaker 3: So combine all that with all the awards, you know,
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  Speaker 3: we had Baton Rouge, Lsu, Tailgates or the best, you know,
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  Speaker 3: the Chasers have so much going on. Being from New Orleans,
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  Speaker 3: we didn't really get that close until really.
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  Speaker 2: We got here.
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  Speaker 3: But We were good friends there and tried to spend time.
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  Speaker 3: But those tailgates are are are just unbelievable and we
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  Speaker 3: have our own now and the Chases are part of
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  Speaker 3: it and we.
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  Speaker 2: Really become close as a family.
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  Speaker 1: What was twenty nineteen like for the Chase family.
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  Speaker 5: Was it was crazy and it was amazing at the
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  Speaker 5: same time. You know, like Joe, like Jimmy said, you know,
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  Speaker 5: the tailgates started it off.
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  Speaker 4: That was an all day event. But then we would go.
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  Speaker 5: To the games, and then the games would be like crazy, right.
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  Speaker 5: We would see jim and Robin at the game. They
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  Speaker 5: would be on one end of the role or in
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  Speaker 5: front of us. As soon as Joe DROs Jamaar touchdown,
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  Speaker 5: they turned around and screaming and holler. Sometimes we were
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  Speaker 5: sitting next to each other, but we were so into
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  Speaker 5: our own kids at the same time.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it was like it was crazy.
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  Speaker 5: But you know that year, the practices were better than
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  Speaker 5: the games, right, the practices, right, I'm like, Joe won
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  Speaker 5: me over in practice because every time a fight broke out,
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  Speaker 5: Joe was in the middle of the fight, okay.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm like, man, this dude here, this dude is
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  Speaker 4: not regular.
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  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, But because we had a
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  Speaker 5: good d fence that year and the defensive.
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  Speaker 4: They were hard nosed that Joe was going toe to
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  Speaker 4: toe with him.
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  Speaker 5: But you know, that year was so crazy, and you know,
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  Speaker 5: every year, like Jimmy said, every game, it got better
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  Speaker 5: and better. Right, So when Jamal started taking off, you know,
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  Speaker 5: everybody was getting excited. And I just told my wife,
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, you don't understand what's going on right now,
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  Speaker 5: Like this dude is playing on a big stage, like
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  Speaker 5: in the National.
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  Speaker 4: Championship game and kind of like leading the team.
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  Speaker 5: And you know, it's like this is awesome, you know,
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  Speaker 5: So it really like took off. It was thee They
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  Speaker 5: were the best college team ever.
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  Speaker 2: You know, they are back back at LSU.
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  Speaker 3: You know I started when we'd see each other and
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  Speaker 3: he maybe again, like he said five rows.
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  Speaker 2: From us or whatever, and I, uh, he'd say, what
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  Speaker 2: do you think?
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  Speaker 3: And I'd say we got to have three today from
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  Speaker 3: Jamar or two and he'd.
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  Speaker 2: Either agree with me or he'd add one. A lot.
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  Speaker 3: So we kind of still still do that and and
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  Speaker 3: and that that relationship between Joe and Jamar. I'll give
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  Speaker 3: you another example. After the National championship game. You know,
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  Speaker 3: they they snapped the ball. Joe has the ball and
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  Speaker 3: uh later that that night, because that that ball is pretty.
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  Speaker 2: Valuable, uh national championship ball. And I said, uh, uh hey, Joe,
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  Speaker 2: where's that ball? I want to take it home with
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  Speaker 2: us and stuff.
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  Speaker 3: And he said, I gave it to Jamar And I said,
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  Speaker 3: you want gave it to Jamar? I said, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 3: your dad might have liked that. And he said, Dad,
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  Speaker 3: Jamar had like one hundred and fifty yards passing yards
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  Speaker 3: that day or something.
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  Speaker 2: He deserves that ball. So that's that's just again, how
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  Speaker 2: how those two guys roll together.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I have that ball.
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  Speaker 3: I figured out we have so many things that a
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  Speaker 3: lot of times our sons just they get so many
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  Speaker 3: different things that, uh, you know, winning is still the
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  Speaker 3: most important.
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  Speaker 2: So we we do.
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  Speaker 3: Get get a lot of things that that that maybe
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  Speaker 3: they they either don't have room for in their in
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  Speaker 3: their house choose to to to not not display it.
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  Speaker 3: But we'll take care of that.
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  Speaker 1: So one of the happiest moments of my life as
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  Speaker 1: a sports fan was the semi final game against Oklahoma
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  Speaker 1: because at that point we know that the Bengals have
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  Speaker 1: the number one pick in the NFL draft. Joe goes
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  Speaker 1: out and throws seven touchdown passes in the first half.
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  Speaker 1: Jamar was completely unstoppable. Now, we didn't know that we
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  Speaker 1: would get Jamar at that point, but that was kind
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  Speaker 1: of my favorite Joe and Jamar college story. Do you
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  Speaker 1: guys have a favorite moment of favorite game, something that's
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  Speaker 1: etched in your memory from the connection between your two
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  Speaker 1: sons at the college level. Jimmy Burrow, you go first.
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  Speaker 2: I think for me, it's still the national championship.
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  Speaker 3: You know, Joe had had lost a tough state championship
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  Speaker 3: game is his senior year, and so so that was
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  Speaker 3: always only his mind to win a championship. And then
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  Speaker 3: you know, we got behind fairly quickly to Clemson, so
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  Speaker 3: we're going, oh, no, this this could.
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  Speaker 2: Be a problem.
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  Speaker 3: But uh, just the way they came back and dominated
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  Speaker 3: and and to see all those guys on the stage,
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: you know, that's that's about as proud as as a
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: parent could could get to know, one they're undefeated, and
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: two they just won the national championship and accomplished. Really,
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: why Joe why he went to LSU was to have
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: a chance to win that national championship.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: So, uh, that was pretty incredible.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Do you have a moment, Jimmy Chase.
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll say it was the National championship game too,
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: because like, Jamal has never won a championship in football.
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: He lost the state championship in high school to Clyde
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: Edward Hilaire. I'm still mad about that, okay, but that
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: was his teammate. But we lost the high school championship
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: and that was his first real championship. He didn't win
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: anything in parkball and football he won. Jamal is a
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: basketball player. So anyway, in the National Championship game, I
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: was like, Joe has the confidence to keep going to
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: him in this big game, you know it, because it's like,
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: like Jimmy said, we was behind and we had to
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: come back from behind, and Joe was going to Jamal.
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: Now nobody else seeing this, but this is when I'm like,
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: y'all don't understand what's going Joe much really believing this,
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: dude if he's drawing it, because Joe is not gonna
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: throw you the ball if he don't have confidence.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you that, all right.
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: So Joe Borrow is Jeorge Jamal to ball and everybody's
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: all exciting and dancing and singing, you know, happy because
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: they winning and they catch the ball, and I just
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: sat down. I was like, this is unbelievable.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: This is the National Championship game, televised game for the championship,
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: and my son is a big part of it.
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: And yeah, that was a real uh proud pop up
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: moment for me.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: Jeremy says, Joe, if you drop a ball or two,
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: he's not going to throw it back to you. Sot, Jamal,
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: That's true.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: All right, Let's fast forward to the twenty twenty one draft.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Jimmy Burrow. Did Joe tell you he's always been kind
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: of coy about what he said to the Bengals. Did
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Joe tell you that he wanted the Bengals to select Jamar?
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: I think we figured that and eventually, yes, he pretty
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: much told us that he wanted Jamar and he thought, well,
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: he just knew how good a player, how great a
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: player he was. And you know, Jamar is not only
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: a great football player on the field, he's a locker
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: room and influenced too, And Joe knew how he'd fit
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: into the culture of the Bengals and how he'd be
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: able to interact with his teammates. So it all added
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: up and and uh, and that's who we we wanted
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: to Robin and I, I mean, once you see somebody
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: do the things we saw Jamar, do you know, there's not.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Not many like him, and we needed him.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: And uh, that's that's who Joe wanted to draft.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Also, Jimmy Chase, were you hoping that Jamar would be
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: reunited with Joe Burrow and Cincinnati?
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: No tool for those guys.
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: I was like, I don't know anything about Cincinnati.
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: They's not really that good right now, So why don't
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: we just go to South Beach?
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: I could sit on the I could sit on the beach. Wise,
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: Jamal I didn't work on the team.
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: But it was like a week before the draft. Jamal
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: said that Joe text me, and I'm like, okay, he
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: was like, so he was all excited, Jamar is real
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: even killed, But Joe text him. He didn't say what
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: he said, you know, but he said, Joe just texted me.
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: So he had to Joe, like one a text with
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: Joe once or twice that week, right, And then he
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: told me, he said, then if I get with Joe
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: We're gonna kill. I said, Look, I say, I like
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: Joe and everything, but Cincinnati, Jamal, I don't know about that.
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: It's like I'm just telling you, if I get with Joe,
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: We're gonna kill. So he was all excited about getting
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: with Joe, but the draft was so crazy because they
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: had three other teams that was trying to get us
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: before Cincinnati. And you know, Jamo was just sitting there waiting.
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: But he knew if he got with Joe Borrow, it
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: was gonna be a different story, you know.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: I mean, I liked Joe, I didn't like Cincinnati, you
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: We got with Jimmy and Talla, I think the day
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: or two after they first got to Cincinnati, and we
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: met up for breakfast or launch, I can't remember, and uh,
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: we eased their their minds about how great Cincinnati was
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: and the weather is not that bad, which you know
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: at times they found out it is. But they had concerns,
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: and you know, we were there for him, and like
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: he said, they didn't know anything about Cincinnati. We at
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: least we're two and a half hours away so and
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: we'd been there years.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: So it all worked out.
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: Yes, No, that was like the best thing that could
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: happen to us, and he showed me how much did
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: I know? You know, how much I knew about stuff,
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: you know, because he likes doing that. But he proved
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: me right, I mean proved me wrong. And I'm happy now.
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: Cincinnati is the best thing that could happen to Jamal
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: because it's the kind of town that's like right up
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: his alley. He's not a row rock guy. He doesn't
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: like to run the streets. He doesn't like all the hoopla.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: He could just sit back and relax in Cincinnati and
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: just enjoy it, you know, and be himself.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Jimmy Jay, Just so you know, I grew up near Buffalo.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: I went to college in Syracuse, New York. Cincinnati is
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: a tropical pair nice in my opinion.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he did move south at least I did.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Let me ask each of you about the other guy's son,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Jimmy Chase, what do you admire most about Joe Burrow.
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: Joe is a tough competitor, right, Joe. He's a tough
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: competitor and he's smart.
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: I seen it myself, Like the year his last year
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: at LSU, I used to go to all the practice
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: and Joe would come out of the locker room and
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: I would be like standing on the wall by the bicycle.
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: Joe would always get on a bicycle before practice. I
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: never said anything to him, but you know, he was there.
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: I was there. He'd seen me. I seen him. But
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: it was in the.
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: Fiesta bot right, Joe got cold cocked like he drew
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: an interception and he was running to go make the
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: tackle and the guy blindsided him. And I'm like, oh lord,
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: it is over for us. Now, the game is over.
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: And Joe got on his knees and he got on
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: said this dude is getting up. And when he got up,
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: he went nuts, right. And the thing that reminds me
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: Jamar is the same way. If you hit him, they're
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: gonna hit you back. And that's what I see in Joe.
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: If you hit him, he's gonna hit you back. He's
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: not gonna take a look. He's not gonna lay down, right,
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: He's gonna fight, scratch and claw. And I mean, I
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: love that. He's a tough cookie and he's real smart, right,
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: He's real smart.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: That's all I'm gonna say about that.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Jimmy Burrow, what do you admire about Jamar.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: Well, his his athleticism is it's just out of this world.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, if you if you see him in person,
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: the way he's bill, the way he runs, the way
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: he jumps. I've always said he could play linebacker, he
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: could play running back, he can play safety, you know
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: if if if they really wanted him to be a
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: tight end, he could he could line up in there
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: if they said.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Uh, but you know that's that's extraordinary.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: And uh, it's it's crazy how how much how good
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: of an athlete he is. And then and this is
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: kind of I think the way both of them roll
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: is is Uh. The one thing I admire about about
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: Jamar and and it carries to Joe too, is how
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: hard they work and how.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Much they like practice. Uh.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: I mean those guys are out there joking around and
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: and uh having fun. But then you know when when
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: the huddle happens, you know they're all all business, but
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: they're they're willing to work. And uh, you know a
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: lot of people say, well, everything looks so easy for
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: for Jamar Well, it's not because how athletic it is.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: It's it's how hard he works.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: To to be able to to show that athleticism So
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: that's that's something that I think is very admirable about Jamar.
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: Another thing that a lot a lot of people don't
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: know is that, you know, during the COVID year, when
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: he set out, everybody was like, what he's going to do,
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: how he's gonna look, he's been sitting for a whole year.
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: Jamal did not sit for a whole year during that
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: COVID year. When he set out, he worked out like
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: every day, almost twice a day.
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: I had to really like slow him down, like, no.
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: Dad, I gotta, I gotta do this because you know,
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: I didn't play, and he tried to over compensate for
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: not playing, and I had to slow him down because
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: he was He's a gym rat.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: You know, he's a gym rat.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: I posted a picture of the two of you guys
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: together at a Bengals practice recently, and Bengals fans went nuts.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: They loved the fact that you two guys seem to
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: be such good buddies. Why did the two families hit
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: it off so well?
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: Well?
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: I think again, Uh, you know, we knew that that
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: Jamar and Joe had become over the years really good friends.
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: There.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: As we said, there there's a lot of similarities in
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: the two you know, there just the way they handle things,
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: their mannerisms when they get together. You know, it's like
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: a couple of old junior high classmates or something. And
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: we also know how important each one of them is
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: to to to the other, and so that creates even
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: more of a bond. But uh, you know, I grew
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: up in Mississippi. It's not New Orleans, but it's truly
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: the South. So I think that that helps too, that
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: you know, I know what the culture really is down there.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: My wife's been been down there enough to to understand
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: what it's like.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: So you know, that creates even more of a bond
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: between us.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Give me chase.
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: It's like we really like the same type of people,
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: you know, fun loving people, like to have a good time, uh,
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: care about their kids, you know, and just all around
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: good people.
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: Then we find out, I think another thing is like
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: we're the only ones that we can really talk to,
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: you know, because we experienced so many similar things, you know,
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: and it's like, you know, as we get into this
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: next level and things are evolving, you know, it's like
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: who do we able? Who are we able to turn to?
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: So we was able to turn to them, and they
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: helped us out a lot. And at the same time,
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: I guess we was like a buffer for them because
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: they were able to be relax and be themselves.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: You know. So it just it just happened, you know
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: It just happened. And then Jimmy like oysters. Okay, so
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: hey I.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: Do Oh yeah, I like it.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: Jimmy tells me I go to the wrong place in
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: New Orleans though, Like, so next time down there, I'm
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: going to whatever he tells me to go to.
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: I read correctly that the two of you guys have
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: some sort of pregame superstition involving seeing each other at
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: the tailgate before the game begins.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: We tried to and I think it's a little more
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: Robin and Talia. Uh, we joined in on that. So
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: if we mess them at our at our tailgate, Uh,
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: you know, we we try to find find a way.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: We used to be in the stands now you know,
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: we're up in the suite area. But uh, yeah, we've
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: been over overcome. Not not communing, but but we'd prefer
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: knowing that we've seen each other and been with each other,
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: even if it's for a quick wave from a cross
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: play or something.
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: They were. They was winning.
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: The Bengals was winning, so we didn't want to do
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: anything to stop them.
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: From winning, that's right, So we stayed with you.
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: Well, you know, the last time we went, we seen
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: Robin and Jimmy, let's go find them again, you know,
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: and it just happened like that, and yeah, it works.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, don't don't mess with the mojo. Half of
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: Bengals fans. Don't mess with the mojo. Final thing for
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: you two guys, and I appreciate your time. I think
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Bengals fans want to know. Should we feel confident that
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Joe and Jamar are going to be NFL teammates for
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: a long long time. They're both nearing the point where
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: they're going to get massive contract extensions. What do you think,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: Jimmy Burrow, you go first.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's that's what we want. And and
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: you know that that's other teammates too. We we we we.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Want them with the Bengals as long as possible.
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: You know, as I said that the bond that they
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: have with each other and and how each other lanes
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: on it on the other and relies on the other,
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: I mean there's no way you'd want those two not
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: not being to gather. And uh, you know, contract extensions
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: and negotiations are are complex and they take a while,
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: and uh that I'm confident that those two guys will
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: be together for really their whole careers.
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: Well, I definitely want them to be together.
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: And I think Jamaar does too, you know, because I
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: was talking to him one time and I was telling him,
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: you know, this is the NFL and this is a
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: business also, so you know, you might have to go
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: find another quarterback.
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: He was like, no, death, I'm staying with Joe. I'm
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: not going to know us, you know. So we want
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: to be there, you know.
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: Hopefully everything will work out and he can be there
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: forever the whole time with Joe, because it's rough when
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: you're receiving you don't have a quarterback. Okay, we don't
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: have time to go find quarterbacks and discover guys.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: And we're good right where we're at. Okay, that's music
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: to all of our ears. Fellas. I can't thank you
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: enough for doing this today. I want to command both
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: of you and your wives on raising two great kids.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: They're obviously spectacular football players. That goes without saying, but
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: they're polite, they're respectful, they've got great attitudes, tremendous work ethic.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: We are thrilled that they are Cincinnati Bengals. Thank you
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: so much. Happy Father's Day weekend, and we look forward
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: to seeing you on the road to the super Bowl
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three.
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: Yes, sir, all right.
• 33:20
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• 33:24
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