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- 0:00Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Why won't she go away?
- 0:09Speaker 1: Why does she keep resurfacing again? Anna Delvy aka Anna Sorkin,
- 0:16Speaker 1: the con artist, has reared her ugly head. Yes, she's
- 0:22Speaker 1: at it again. The fake heiress caught in a new scandal,
- 0:27Speaker 1: this time involving bunnies. You know, the hippie hoppy type
- 0:32Speaker 1: of a little creature. Bunnies. Yes, bunnies. The con artists
- 0:37Speaker 1: who ripped her friends and others off to the tune
- 0:41Speaker 1: of around one hundred thousand dollars plus. Anna Delvy now
- 0:46Speaker 1: accused of cruelly dumping baby bunnies in a public park
- 0:54Speaker 1: after she used them in a photo shoot, left them
- 0:58Speaker 1: out there to die. It never ends with this woman.
- 1:03Speaker 1: I mean, I see Grace. This is Crime Stories, and
- 1:05Speaker 1: I want to thank you for being with us. Yes,
- 1:08Speaker 1: the fake heiress con artist caught in a brand new scandal,
- 1:13Speaker 1: this time about bunnies. The Russian whose real name is
- 1:18Speaker 1: Anna Sorkin, known for posing as a German heiress to
- 1:24Speaker 1: climb the social ladder in Manhattan and defrauding a series
- 1:28Speaker 1: of banks, hotels, and individuals. I mentioned over one hundred
- 1:32Speaker 1: thousand dollars, and that was her friends. But she ripped
- 1:35Speaker 1: off other people to the tune of about two hundred
- 1:38Speaker 1: and seventy five thousand dollars. That's over a quarter of
- 1:40Speaker 1: a million dollars. And now she uses little bunnies in
- 1:46Speaker 1: a photoshoot and then they're found abandoned in a public
- 1:50Speaker 1: park in Brooklyn. Now, Delvy squear she has no idea
- 1:56Speaker 1: how the bunnies were found for her photoshoot, and some
- 2:01Speaker 1: teen kit assistant has amazingly taken responsibility. According to a
- 2:06Speaker 1: Reddit user, a rabbit named Parker was rescued from a
- 2:11Speaker 1: park and placed in foster care. Three days later, another
- 2:16Speaker 1: rabbit is found in Prospect Park. That bunny saved as well.
- 2:22Speaker 1: Neighbors and others were alerted and everyone noticed. Both of
- 2:27Speaker 1: the rabbits look identical to the ones penned by Anna
- 2:34Speaker 1: Delviy on Instagram. The images show her posing on York
- 2:38Speaker 1: streets with two bunnies on leeds Well. The internet went
- 2:45Speaker 1: wild to that. Delvy goes online and insists the bunnies
- 2:51Speaker 1: were borrowed for the shute and they are safe at
- 2:54Speaker 1: home with their owners. She put that on insta. Initially,
- 2:58Speaker 1: the assistant did the bunnies were found in the park abandoned,
- 3:03Speaker 1: but later released a statement claiming that he was responsible.
- 3:08Speaker 1: Under other controversy surrounding Anna Delvi, the fake Heiress. Do
- 3:14Speaker 1: you remember what happened? Because I sure do. Let's take
- 3:17Speaker 1: a little flashback.
- 3:18Speaker 2: With an extravagant lifestyle and a seemingly endless supply of money,
- 3:22Speaker 2: delv was an enigma that was made for the age
- 3:25Speaker 2: of Instagram, always at the right place with the right people,
- 3:28Speaker 2: living her best life, but with no apparent cause for
- 3:31Speaker 2: her fame. Her circle of acquaintances was fed various stories
- 3:35Speaker 2: as to how she accumulated her vast wealth.
- 3:38Speaker 1: Her father was a Russian billionaire, a Russian.
- 3:40Speaker 2: Diplomat, an oil tycoon, a Russian antiques collector, or a
- 3:43Speaker 2: solar energy capitalist. While many parts of Delvy's story were fluid,
- 3:48Speaker 2: some things were consistent. Delvy made no effort to hide
- 3:51Speaker 2: her internship at the Paris magazine Purple, and made it
- 3:54Speaker 2: very clear that her dream was to open a soho
- 3:56Speaker 2: house for art.
- 3:57Speaker 1: And quote upset fake German era and a Serrokean guilty
- 4:02Speaker 1: of grand larceny after a life of fake ripping people
- 4:08Speaker 1: off to nearly a quarter of a million dollars that
- 4:11Speaker 1: we know of, who would believe a Russian heiress and
- 4:15Speaker 1: fork over thousands of dollars? And in court she was
- 4:19Speaker 1: more upset about her designer clothing wardrobe than she was
- 4:24Speaker 1: about being found guilty. Now that's unusual. This girl and
- 4:28Speaker 1: a serrocan also known as Anna Delviy, somehow manages to
- 4:33Speaker 1: con so ho Elite out of a quarter of a
- 4:36Speaker 1: million dollars. Joining me in all star lineup Jeff Cortize,
- 4:42Speaker 1: former FBI special agent. Wendy Patrick, California prosecutor, author of
- 4:47Speaker 1: Red Flags, Doctor William in July psychologist in John Limley
- 4:51Speaker 1: crimeonline dot Com investigative reporter John Limley help me out.
- 4:56Speaker 1: This girl shows up. Her skin is so payd.
- 5:00Speaker 3: She looks like a ghost, and she's got this long
- 5:04Speaker 3: brown hair parted usually slightly on the side, big glasses,
- 5:08Speaker 3: and the hair hangs down like curtains.
- 5:11Speaker 1: Over her face. You can barely see the eyes, you know,
- 5:14Speaker 1: the hair is so close down. I can't see her face.
- 5:18Speaker 1: That makes me suspicious. But who would buy into my
- 5:21Speaker 1: dad is a Russian billionaire? Give me your money? Oops,
- 5:24Speaker 1: I forgot my credit card. What happened? Let's just start
- 5:27Speaker 1: at the beginning.
- 5:27Speaker 4: Well, Nancy apparently a lot of people were just hungry
- 5:31Speaker 4: to buy into this story. If New York City is
- 5:35Speaker 4: a city of dreams, which we hear it called all
- 5:37Speaker 4: the time, Anna had enough for the entire island. She
- 5:42Speaker 4: had longed to be a member of the upper echelon
- 5:45Speaker 4: of Manhattan system.
- 5:46Speaker 1: I understand something, John Linley, Crime Online Investigator reporter. Did
- 5:49Speaker 1: you just call her giant fraud? Ripping people off tens
- 5:54Speaker 1: of thousands of dollars? Including one woman that took the stand,
- 5:57Speaker 1: a working class person who go on an all expense
- 6:01Speaker 1: paid trip with her to Morocco and she gets stiffed
- 6:06Speaker 1: with a sixty five thousand dollars bill. Wait are you
- 6:08Speaker 1: calling that a dream? How it? Wait? How dare you person?
- 6:14Speaker 4: Dream? Is another person's night?
- 6:15Speaker 1: You find yourself with cliches? Don't the American dream my
- 6:21Speaker 1: rear end, Jeff Cortiese, I call it something a lot
- 6:24Speaker 1: different than the American dream?
- 6:26Speaker 5: Oh?
- 6:26Speaker 6: Absolutely, I mean this was a at least on the
- 6:29Speaker 6: front end, a well executed fraud. Over the long term,
- 6:34Speaker 6: it didn't It didn't have the legs to remain sustainable
- 6:37Speaker 6: a long term.
- 6:38Speaker 1: I mean she managed to pull it off. Wendy Patrick,
- 6:40Speaker 1: for you know what, two years. I forgot how long
- 6:43Speaker 1: she managed to pull the wool over everybody's eyes, going
- 6:46Speaker 1: on trips to Morocco, staying at I think it's eleven Howard,
- 6:50Speaker 1: some ritzy. I don't even know how you find that
- 6:53Speaker 1: hotel in New York. It's one of those places. I
- 6:55Speaker 1: don't think it's even marked. Only rich people go there.
- 6:58Speaker 1: Wendy Patrick, what is what happened to John Limley, the
- 7:01Speaker 1: Voice of Reason? He just called this the American Dream? What?
- 7:07Speaker 7: Well?
- 7:07Speaker 8: I think John Linley, what he was talking about is
- 7:09Speaker 8: there are there are some misguided, vulnerable people that really
- 7:13Speaker 8: are subjected to social predators like Anna. And you know,
- 7:17Speaker 8: some people just are absolutely you guys mentioned the glamor,
- 7:21Speaker 8: the glitz. It's like they want to believe and this
- 7:24Speaker 8: fake it till you make it lifestyle. You know, nobody
- 7:26Speaker 8: even took the time to say, show me the money,
- 7:29Speaker 8: show me the fun, show me the corroboration behind your
- 7:32Speaker 8: wild stories.
- 7:33Speaker 1: Because caught up in the moment in an Instagram.
- 7:36Speaker 8: Savvy society, people want to be in the company of
- 7:40Speaker 8: people like Anna, and sadly, as a prosecutor, I am
- 7:43Speaker 8: just we are just absolutely just terrified of people like
- 7:47Speaker 8: this that are able to so easily infiltrate our social
- 7:50Speaker 8: networking to doctor Williams you Lye, psychologist, author of a
- 7:53Speaker 8: dark and they did a.
- 7:54Speaker 1: Quit her off, which I was shocked about because this
- 7:56Speaker 1: girl actually took the stand Graham larceny for a luedgedly
- 8:00Speaker 1: stealing sixty two thousand dollars from a friend that she said,
- 8:06Speaker 1: come along, I'll pay for everything on a trip to Morocco. Okay,
- 8:09Speaker 1: I think they actually punished the friend because when you
- 8:13Speaker 1: go on a luxurious trip to Morocco, you stay in
- 8:16Speaker 1: a five star hotel. They went to Spa treatments that
- 8:20Speaker 1: were costing like three hundred dollars a treatment, whatever. That
- 8:24Speaker 1: treatment may be laying in mud, getting their nails whatever,
- 8:29Speaker 1: three hundred. I think the jerry punished that friend for
- 8:33Speaker 1: going along with the excess. Doctor July.
- 8:37Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, at worse, Nancy, what you're looking at
- 8:39Speaker 5: in cases like this, at worst is a psychopathological level
- 8:43Speaker 5: of narcissism. At best, what you're looking at as a
- 8:46Speaker 5: person who has so much greed and desire to please
- 8:49Speaker 5: herself that she doesn't care what the consequences are for
- 8:52Speaker 5: other people. You were asking earlier, and I just want
- 8:56Speaker 5: to address what you were asking earlier about why and
- 8:59Speaker 5: how can this sort of thing happen. We're all baffled
- 9:02Speaker 5: when we see this, but it's age old. It's a
- 9:04Speaker 5: tale as old as time. Charlottan comes in and fools everyone.
- 9:09Speaker 5: So there's a part of people that are looking at
- 9:11Speaker 5: this who want to believe this because they want to
- 9:15Speaker 5: hang out with the person who has this kind of
- 9:17Speaker 5: social these types of social credentials, and they want to
- 9:22Speaker 5: believe that she's an heiress so that they can be
- 9:25Speaker 5: with her. And people are blaming social media. It's not
- 9:28Speaker 5: the fault of social media. Social media is just a
- 9:30Speaker 5: facilitator to the neediness of other people who want to
- 9:35Speaker 5: believe and accept it by.
- 9:36Speaker 1: Are you piling on everybody on the panel except Cortiese
- 9:40Speaker 1: Thank goodness, as keeps talking about the Instagram and society.
- 9:44Speaker 1: You know what, Instagram didn't have a dang thing to
- 9:46Speaker 1: do with this. It was all mistaing crime stories with
- 9:55Speaker 1: Nancy Gray. Fake heiress Anna delviy hits the headlines again,
- 10:03Speaker 1: this time about abandoned bunnies of all things. Okay, Anna
- 10:08Speaker 1: delviy I Guess is one of her names. Annasorkin is
- 10:12Speaker 1: another name. She is Russian from a middle class family
- 10:16Speaker 1: who presented herself in New York as a German heiress,
- 10:21Speaker 1: socialite and cond people at a nearly three hundred thousand dollars,
- 10:26Speaker 1: including fantastic hotels, amazing five star trips, fancy restaurants, clothes,
- 10:33Speaker 1: you name it again. She is linked with scandal, go
- 10:39Speaker 1: away work like the rest of us. For Pete's sake,
- 10:43Speaker 1: do you remember the trial? I remember the whole thing
- 10:46Speaker 1: was delayed because she refused to come out unless she
- 10:49Speaker 1: had in designer clothes. Oh my stars. But let's take
- 10:54Speaker 1: a walk down memory lane. Her parents' hard working middle
- 10:58Speaker 1: class people that she borrowed a ton of money borrowed,
- 11:01Speaker 1: I eastole a ton of money from them as well. Hey,
- 11:05Speaker 1: but she didn't just create a different identity her parents.
- 11:10Speaker 1: I think the dad drives a truck, and I know
- 11:14Speaker 1: what that's like. My dad, as you know, worked on
- 11:16Speaker 1: the railroad. My mom started as a bank teller. My
- 11:20Speaker 1: grandfather drove an ice truck and a school bus, anything
- 11:23Speaker 1: to put the food on the table. But she not
- 11:27Speaker 1: only assumed different an identity for herself, but she also
- 11:30Speaker 1: created a whole team of imaginary assistants, an assistant, an accountant,
- 11:37Speaker 1: a manager Limley. Is this true of her imaginary assistance?
- 11:41Speaker 9: Well?
- 11:41Speaker 4: And some were not so imaginary. She even had the
- 11:45Speaker 4: concierge at a hotel essentially on her staff. At her
- 11:50Speaker 4: Beck and Call, she was able to convince people of
- 11:54Speaker 4: not only her wealth but all of her aspirations, her dreams.
- 11:58Speaker 4: She really wanted to build this members only arts club
- 12:03Speaker 4: on Park Avenue South and was even working to get
- 12:06Speaker 4: the financing for it, and was not too far awaiting.
- 12:09Speaker 1: This John Lanley. She lied to a bank using phony records.
- 12:13Speaker 10: Anna went too far when she attempted to take out
- 12:16Speaker 10: a loan for twenty two million dollars to finance a
- 12:19Speaker 10: visual arts center she called the Anna Deelvi Foundation. In all,
- 12:23Speaker 10: Anna reportedly scammed a total of two hundred and seventy
- 12:27Speaker 10: five thousand dollars, and his double life began to crumble
- 12:30Speaker 10: as hotels went after her unpaid debts and banks began
- 12:34Speaker 10: to investigate her alleged assets.
- 12:36Speaker 1: Wow that's Jesse Palmer over at Daily Mail TV. Wow Okay,
- 12:40Speaker 1: So friends and acquaintances. Say Sorokan spent years playing the
- 12:44Speaker 1: part of an art obsessed German heiress. Sometimes she'd be Russian.
- 12:48Speaker 1: Sometimes she'd be German. She had an accent to go
- 12:52Speaker 1: with it, rubbing shoulders with the fashion elite at Paris
- 12:56Speaker 1: Fashion Week, frequently spotted in London night spots. Then those
- 13:01Speaker 1: who knew her saw her at a party in Berlin.
- 13:04Speaker 1: She told everybody she had just flown in on a
- 13:07Speaker 1: private jet. How did she pull it off? Scamming nearly
- 13:11Speaker 1: three hundred thousand dollars. It was only when these ritzy
- 13:15Speaker 1: hotels in New York went after her to pay her
- 13:18Speaker 1: bills that the whole thing fell apart. But what really
- 13:22Speaker 1: amazed me. You know, I don't know if you do
- 13:25Speaker 1: this or not. Wendy Patrick, California prosecutor, author of Red
- 13:28Speaker 1: Flags on Amazon. Wendy, under the constitution, you can't force
- 13:34Speaker 1: a defendant into court in handcuffs or leg irons or
- 13:39Speaker 1: waist shackle. You can't force them to come in in
- 13:44Speaker 1: inmate jumpsuit, prison blues or orange or stripes, whatever the
- 13:48Speaker 1: case may be. But I would always keep a jacket
- 13:52Speaker 1: and pants and a couple of different sizes in my office,
- 13:55Speaker 1: So when a defendant would show up on Monday morning
- 13:58Speaker 1: trial calendar and say, oh, yeah, I want to go
- 14:00Speaker 1: to trial. But I don't have a suit. I go, oh,
- 14:02Speaker 1: I do have a suit for you. But she was
- 14:05Speaker 1: more concerned about what she wore to court every day.
- 14:08Speaker 1: She had She actually had a personal dresser dialist dressing
- 14:13Speaker 1: her for court. Wendy.
- 14:15Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, Nancy, what you're describing really is something
- 14:18Speaker 8: hopefully the judge will take.
- 14:20Speaker 1: Into considering it sentencing.
- 14:21Speaker 8: Because it's this entire mentality of I don't want to
- 14:25Speaker 8: say just not getting it. That would be too kind.
- 14:27Speaker 8: It's a complete underappreciation, or I should say, non appreciation
- 14:31Speaker 8: for the fact that.
- 14:31Speaker 1: The rest of us work for a living. Her family
- 14:34Speaker 1: works for a living.
- 14:35Speaker 8: There is so much more to life than clothes and
- 14:37Speaker 8: appearances an image.
- 14:39Speaker 10: You know.
- 14:39Speaker 8: One of the things that distinguishes this case is the
- 14:42Speaker 8: fact that this over emphasis on image, on money, on
- 14:45Speaker 8: glamour sounds like it absolutely overrode every ounce of judgment
- 14:48Speaker 8: that she had and to take that into the courtroom,
- 14:51Speaker 8: as you mentioned, Nancy is probably a little bit beyond
- 14:54Speaker 8: the pale.
- 14:54Speaker 1: So well, listen to our friends and inside Edition. This
- 14:56Speaker 1: is Diane mcinernie.
- 14:58Speaker 8: This one may look like she is dressed for a
- 14:59Speaker 8: fashion show it and her designer does, but the wannabe
- 15:02Speaker 8: socialite is actually on trial for swindling hundreds of thousands
- 15:05Speaker 8: of dollars from unsuspecting people.
- 15:07Speaker 1: She was so concerned about how she looked in court
- 15:09Speaker 1: she actually hired a stylist.
- 15:11Speaker 11: Is she in a courtroom or at a red carpet event.
- 15:14Speaker 11: Annasorkin is accused of posing as an heiress to live
- 15:17Speaker 11: an extravagant lifestyle, But it's what she's wearing to trial
- 15:21Speaker 11: that is making headlines. The twenty seven year old defendant
- 15:24Speaker 11: showed up wearing a form fitting black dress with a
- 15:26Speaker 11: plunging neckline and choker necklace. It's a look that could
- 15:30Speaker 11: backfire a Warren stylist Don Karen.
- 15:32Speaker 7: Black dress definitely a no no. A hyper sexualize her.
- 15:36Speaker 7: It makes her appear to be like a seductress. The
- 15:39Speaker 7: choker kind of shows to me that she's trying to
- 15:42Speaker 7: be overtly sexy. The more sexy she appears to be,
- 15:47Speaker 7: it hurts her.
- 15:48Speaker 11: Sore Kin is so obsessed with her clothes she refused
- 15:51Speaker 11: to enter the courtroom because the outfit she was given
- 15:53Speaker 11: to wear was not up to her standards. The angry
- 15:56Speaker 11: judge told her this is unacceptable and inappropriate. This is
- 16:00Speaker 11: not a fashion show, But Sorrikin's lawyer, Todd Spodek, says
- 16:04Speaker 11: accounts of his client delaying the trial because of fashion
- 16:07Speaker 11: are being blown out of proportion.
- 16:09Speaker 12: It's not that she didn't want to come out only
- 16:11Speaker 12: because of the clothes. She's going through a major criminal
- 16:14Speaker 12: trial that's publicized every day. It's emotional, and it's her life.
- 16:18Speaker 1: Don't cry too much for Anna Serrokan. She was living
- 16:22Speaker 1: a life that many people, not me, but many people
- 16:26Speaker 1: dream of. She made a show of proving she belonged
- 16:31Speaker 1: with the rich and famous, decked out in signature Selene glasses,
- 16:36Speaker 1: Gucci sandals, high in botes from net to porte at
- 16:41Speaker 1: Last Walker, she usually hold up in a four hundred
- 16:45Speaker 1: dollars a night room for months on in at Manhattan's
- 16:51Speaker 1: very very luxurious eleven Howard Hotel. Concierge at the hotel
- 16:59Speaker 1: said they became friends when she would repeatedly routinely pass
- 17:05Speaker 1: out CRISP one hundred dollar tips to both them and
- 17:09Speaker 1: Uber drivers. When I hear the words CRISP one hundred dollars,
- 17:14Speaker 1: how many hundred dollar bills do you have, Jackie? I
- 17:16Speaker 1: don't think I have any, So Jeff cartiese former FBI
- 17:22Speaker 1: special agent. When I hear the word crisp one hundred
- 17:24Speaker 1: dollar bills, that means you just got them out of
- 17:26Speaker 1: an ATM or from the bank. So how does she
- 17:30Speaker 1: manage to defraud the bank to get cash, to tip
- 17:34Speaker 1: concierge to fake for her. Yeah, that's a great question,
- 17:38Speaker 1: you know.
- 17:38Speaker 6: I think it's a numbers game in many respects. There
- 17:43Speaker 6: were multiple banks engaged in her activity. She appears, based
- 17:48Speaker 6: on the information, limited her trips back to the same Well,
- 17:52Speaker 6: though she would go back to the same bake.
- 17:53Speaker 1: On occasion for.
- 17:57Speaker 6: Certain certain banking activity. She did share the wealth amongst
- 18:01Speaker 6: the banks within New York so as not to draw
- 18:04Speaker 6: too much attention over an extended period of time.
- 18:06Speaker 1: Well, what I understand that she did, and I'm going
- 18:09Speaker 1: to have to get clarity on this, is that she
- 18:12Speaker 1: would provide fake bank records to one bank and then
- 18:17Speaker 1: they she was trying to get a massive loan for
- 18:20Speaker 1: twenty two million, so she they wanted a down payment,
- 18:24Speaker 1: so she faked records and got I don't know fifty
- 18:27Speaker 1: to one hundred grand from one bank and used that
- 18:30Speaker 1: money to get a loan as a down payment on
- 18:33Speaker 1: a loan a bigger loan at another bank, none of
- 18:36Speaker 1: the banks realizing what the others were doing. Another thing
- 18:39Speaker 1: that really fascinates me, doctor Williams July, and not in
- 18:41Speaker 1: a good way. It's like looking at a tarantula under
- 18:44Speaker 1: a glass box. Okay, that sort of fascination is the
- 18:49Speaker 1: way she carried on this big, huge imaginary life. She
- 18:54Speaker 1: would splash out on shopping sprees at boutiques, very expensive
- 18:59Speaker 1: person training sessions and beautician appointments, and she would always
- 19:03Speaker 1: bring along a friend and pay for them and they
- 19:06Speaker 1: would be all impressed. The social elite, as they call themselves,
- 19:12Speaker 1: would go to lavish in large dinners for celebs, are as, CEOs,
- 19:19Speaker 1: all in restaurants there in Soho And if you do
- 19:22Speaker 1: look at her online, she's always drinking a big glass
- 19:25Speaker 1: of wine at some beautiful location. How can an adult
- 19:30Speaker 1: have that type of an imaginary life. I mean, I
- 19:33Speaker 1: know when children have an imaginary friend, there's all sorts
- 19:36Speaker 1: of psychological reasons for that, maybe just security.
- 19:39Speaker 5: But an adult, certainly people can have these types of
- 19:42Speaker 5: imaginary lives and they're going to recruit other people. Just
- 19:47Speaker 5: because of the chronological age does not make a person
- 19:51Speaker 5: have the maturation that they should have. And then that
- 19:53Speaker 5: can be from a lot of different things. But certainly
- 19:57Speaker 5: as much as she can get other people to buy
- 20:00Speaker 5: into this, then that's because she's going to continue and
- 20:02Speaker 5: she's going to expand that imaginary life. And people can
- 20:06Speaker 5: be very charming. They can be very off putting. Excuse me,
- 20:09Speaker 5: they can be very charming, and they can be very persuasive,
- 20:12Speaker 5: and they can get other people to buy in. There
- 20:14Speaker 5: are people that can go into banks and they can
- 20:16Speaker 5: fake a story and they can get people to believe
- 20:18Speaker 5: that it happens every day, and this is a person
- 20:21Speaker 5: who can do that and the imaginary fast parts of this.
- 20:25Speaker 5: I mean, I haven't examined her, so I can't go
- 20:27Speaker 5: so far to say she's delusional or anything like that,
- 20:29Speaker 5: but clearly she has the ability the maybe a pathological
- 20:36Speaker 5: type of charm. Some people can do that. And also
- 20:39Speaker 5: you can remember, other people are buying into this because
- 20:41Speaker 5: the banks aren't changing credentials properly.
- 20:43Speaker 13: Under the name Anna Delvi, she arrived in New York
- 20:46Speaker 13: with a high priced wardrobe and was known for handing
- 20:48Speaker 13: out one hundred dollars cash tips, reportedly saying at different
- 20:52Speaker 13: points that her father was a diplomat and an oil baron
- 20:55Speaker 13: or involved in the solar panel business, none of which
- 20:57Speaker 13: are the case. People who knew her said she often
- 21:00Speaker 13: others to use their credit cards to cover cab and
- 21:02Speaker 13: plane fairs and then failing to repay them.
- 21:05Speaker 1: Our friend Michael Sisak at Time Magazine online, Yeah, there
- 21:08Speaker 1: was one story that came out at trial how she
- 21:13Speaker 1: hired a PR firm to organize her birthday party in Soho.
- 21:17Speaker 1: It emerged she never paid the bill. During her stay
- 21:21Speaker 1: at eleven Howard, she struck up a friend there. In
- 21:26Speaker 1: addition to the concierges to and as for the recommendations
- 21:30Speaker 1: for the very vetty vetty best food in Soho, we
- 21:35Speaker 1: also learned that on one occasion she invited friends to
- 21:39Speaker 1: dinner at Soho s and bro and the friend ended
- 21:44Speaker 1: up paying a whopper massive bill when Soroken's twelve credit
- 21:49Speaker 1: cards were all declined, but Sorokin paid her back triple
- 21:55Speaker 1: the amount the following day in cash. So learned that
- 22:01Speaker 1: she would go to unique treatments like infrared saunas in
- 22:07Speaker 1: the East Village, go out to dinner after celebrity training
- 22:13Speaker 1: sessions with Casey Duke, which Soroken also paid for John Limley.
- 22:19Speaker 1: How did she get money from one bank to get
- 22:23Speaker 1: a loan from another bank? How did that work?
- 22:25Speaker 4: It's a very interesting line to follow. How she did this.
- 22:30Speaker 4: She would go to a bank and ask for a
- 22:35Speaker 4: certain line of credit based on a lot of times
- 22:39Speaker 4: just a promise of the fact that she had millions
- 22:43Speaker 4: overseas that she could repay the loan, and she would
- 22:48Speaker 4: go from one bank with that money to another bank
- 22:53Speaker 4: and get an even larger In fact, here's an example.
- 22:58Speaker 4: She talked to an examp to an executive with City
- 23:01Speaker 4: National Bank into giving her a line of credit on
- 23:05Speaker 4: her account for one hundred thousand dollars, promising to repay
- 23:09Speaker 4: it with a wire transfer from a European account. She
- 23:13Speaker 4: used that money in a failed attempt to secure a
- 23:17Speaker 4: twenty five million dollar loan from Fortress Investment Group, and
- 23:22Speaker 4: the one of the managing directors at Fortress has said
- 23:26Speaker 4: that she ran into problems providing details about the origin
- 23:31Speaker 4: of her wealth. Someone actually thought to ask about that.
- 23:34Speaker 1: You know, her lines became more and more spectacular. Wendy Patchett,
- 23:37Speaker 1: California Prosecutor. In fact, she even managed to charter a
- 23:41Speaker 1: private plane on one occasion with absolutely zero money, Wendy,
- 23:46Speaker 1: how do you do that?
- 23:47Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 23:48Speaker 8: The level of sophistication Nancy, as John was explaining and
- 23:51Speaker 8: as we know now looking back, was absolutely stunning. It
- 23:54Speaker 8: was almost as if she was daring authorities to catch
- 23:57Speaker 8: her in this escalating scheme sophistication. And you know, the
- 24:01Speaker 8: answer to how you do that is the same way
- 24:03Speaker 8: we've commit we see people committing other crimes. Is sometimes
- 24:07Speaker 8: people are so trusting because image matters. You know, this
- 24:10Speaker 8: is something I talk about in my book.
- 24:11Speaker 1: We tend to attribute.
- 24:13Speaker 8: All these positive qualities to somebody who comes across as believable,
- 24:17Speaker 8: whether they're pretty, or we like what they say, or
- 24:19Speaker 8: we're enamored with their axe and or their clothes. All
- 24:22Speaker 8: the types of things that Anna used to get ahead
- 24:25Speaker 8: can fool other people into letting them acquire the kind
- 24:28Speaker 8: of wealth and as you point out, tangible benefits that
- 24:31Speaker 8: this young lady did.
- 24:32Speaker 1: Don Lenley tell me about the lux treatment she got
- 24:35Speaker 1: in Morocco where she ended up stiffing her friend with
- 24:37Speaker 1: the bail.
- 24:38Speaker 4: Well, when they went to Marrakesh, she went with a
- 24:44Speaker 4: friend and she had offered to pay for everything. Now
- 24:48Speaker 4: her friend actually offered to help pay, but she said, no, no, no,
- 24:53Speaker 4: you work hard for your money, harder for your money
- 24:56Speaker 4: than I do. This is my treat, and they would
- 24:59Speaker 4: go out for a round of drinks and oops, she
- 25:04Speaker 4: forgot her credit cards. So she would ask, you know,
- 25:07Speaker 4: very quietly, if the friend could you know, just cover
- 25:10Speaker 4: this one check. And that would happen over and over
- 25:13Speaker 4: and over again, and this friend, in the end ended
- 25:17Speaker 4: up covering the sixty two thousand dollars cost of the flights, dining, shopping,
- 25:24Speaker 4: and the stay at a hotel where they had a
- 25:26Speaker 4: private villa with a courtyard, a pool, and a butler,
- 25:30Speaker 4: all the extravagance that you might say was fit for,
- 25:34Speaker 4: say a Kardashian.
- 25:36Speaker 1: A sixty two thousand dollars vacation that is more than
- 25:41Speaker 1: most people make an entire year. While in Marrakesh, Morocco
- 25:48Speaker 1: Soroken aka delv took part in all the activities the
- 25:53Speaker 1: hotel had to offer. For instance, they took private tennis lessons.
- 25:58Speaker 1: They ate breakfast poolside. A butler would deliver them fresh
- 26:03Speaker 1: watermelons and bottles of rose. They roamed the gardens, relaxed,
- 26:12Speaker 1: swam in the villa's private pool, took a tour of
- 26:17Speaker 1: the wine cellar eight dinner with live Moroccan music, before
- 26:23Speaker 1: capping off their knights with cocktails at the Churchill Bar.
- 26:28Speaker 1: I mean, this is a trip that most people only
- 26:32Speaker 1: dream of, and now here's miss thing, having a nearly
- 26:36Speaker 1: seventy thousand dollars vacation built on crime.
- 26:41Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, Nancy, the best things in life are free,
- 26:45Speaker 8: and everybody knows that. So when you look at a
- 26:47Speaker 8: story like this, part of I think the offense that
- 26:50Speaker 8: everyone is taking is to use crime and criminal activity
- 26:54Speaker 8: to build a fake world where people pay the kind
- 26:57Speaker 8: of money that most of us would never do even
- 26:59Speaker 8: if we have it. You talk about the value of
- 27:01Speaker 8: hard work the way we were all raised. It sounds
- 27:04Speaker 8: like those she surrounded herself were really taken with the
- 27:07Speaker 8: fact that someone they believed was as rich and famous
- 27:09Speaker 8: as she was would be interested in them.
- 27:12Speaker 1: That is a basic human need.
- 27:14Speaker 8: Ironically, that was being satisfied through criming through, as you
- 27:19Speaker 8: pointed out earlier, having this imaginary friend that's larger than.
- 27:23Speaker 1: Like crime stories with Nancy Grace, Anna delviy Aka Anahsauric
- 27:37Speaker 1: and the con artists back in the news, this time
- 27:40Speaker 1: to the forefront over abandoned bunnies used in a photo
- 27:44Speaker 1: shoot and then abandoned in public parks. Well, eagle eyed
- 27:48Speaker 1: Reddit users notice they look very similar to the ones
- 27:52Speaker 1: in Anna Delvi's photo shoot, and bam, it all came
- 27:57Speaker 1: crashing down. Now a teen assistant says it's all his
- 28:00Speaker 1: fault that he lied, and he takes responsibility. Okay, whatever
- 28:06Speaker 1: you say. I'm still hung up on the three hundred
- 28:10Speaker 1: thousand dollars she scamned. Remember that. You know. I don't
- 28:13Speaker 1: know about you, Jeff Cortize, FBI special agent. But I
- 28:17Speaker 1: loved it when I would of course, the prosecutor gets
- 28:20Speaker 1: in front of an entire jury panel and reads the
- 28:23Speaker 1: indictment before you begin jury's selection, so everybody knows who's
- 28:28Speaker 1: charged with what and what all the accounts are. And
- 28:31Speaker 1: I would love it to say state versus Jeff Cortize
- 28:35Speaker 1: aka Charlie Tuna aka the Hammer aka Blah blah blah,
- 28:43Speaker 1: and so forth and so on. I would love reading
- 28:46Speaker 1: out ten or twelve aliases. And by the time you've
- 28:49Speaker 1: done reading that, the jury just looks at the person
- 28:51Speaker 1: and goes, You're so, you're guilty, You're guilty. Why are
- 28:56Speaker 1: you Why do you have twelve aliases, and this girl,
- 28:59Speaker 1: I'm telling it, not only had aliases, but she had
- 29:03Speaker 1: fake assistant. She lied about her mom and dad who
- 29:08Speaker 1: they really are. The reality is that her father was
- 29:12Speaker 1: a truck driver and he went on to work at
- 29:18Speaker 1: or start a heating and air conditioned business. The friends
- 29:24Speaker 1: in school called her Barbie and her favorite movie was
- 29:28Speaker 1: Mean Girls. And I don't think that's any of that
- 29:33Speaker 1: is good. Okay, that means nothing good. Jeff Cartize, No,
- 29:37Speaker 1: I agree one hundred percent. You hit it on the head.
- 29:39Speaker 6: You know, the minute individuals start layering themselves with aliases
- 29:44Speaker 6: and aka's, you know, they're putting up walls and barriers
- 29:48Speaker 6: that any jury is going to be able to see through.
- 29:51Speaker 6: You know, she really executed a well thought out plan
- 29:55Speaker 6: against the banks, using multiple techniques and methods to cite
- 30:00Speaker 6: and money from them.
- 30:02Speaker 1: You know, from from top to bottom.
- 30:04Speaker 6: She exploited what people want to see and exploited the
- 30:10Speaker 6: type of lifestyle that people want to have to the
- 30:12Speaker 6: extent that you know, if I was going to run undercover,
- 30:14Speaker 6: I would have done many of the techniques that she
- 30:17Speaker 6: did in order to manipulate my audience.
- 30:20Speaker 1: Well, another aspect to this, John Lemley, is I remember
- 30:24Speaker 1: one day when John David came running home and went,
- 30:27Speaker 1: so and so's mom is so cool. She works for
- 30:31Speaker 1: Chick fil A and she gets free T shirts and
- 30:36Speaker 1: she gets this, and she gets that. I think the
- 30:39Speaker 1: lady who's very lovely was in marketing or PR and
- 30:43Speaker 1: would bring home, you know, like a T shirt or
- 30:46Speaker 1: a moodcu or what whatever they had. And I thought
- 30:50Speaker 1: briefly of creating a different persona to try to impress
- 30:56Speaker 1: John David's friends, who were then four years old. Okay,
- 31:00Speaker 1: but I just decided, no, I'm just going to stick
- 31:02Speaker 1: with the truth, you know, and let the chips fall
- 31:04Speaker 1: where they may. John Lumley, I mean that would hurt
- 31:09Speaker 1: me if I found out the twins were lying about
- 31:14Speaker 1: their mom and dad, that what we are isn't good
- 31:18Speaker 1: enough to fit in to their self image they're projecting,
- 31:23Speaker 1: that would really hurt my feelers.
- 31:24Speaker 4: And that's exactly the way her parents felt about the
- 31:27Speaker 4: whole thing. They actually did help fund her through college
- 31:32Speaker 4: and as she was getting out on her own, but
- 31:34Speaker 4: there was never any sort of trust fund. She moved
- 31:39Speaker 4: to Germany in two thousand and seven, and after she
- 31:43Speaker 4: dropped out of college, she interned in public Relations, before
- 31:47Speaker 4: then moving to Paris and became an intern at Purple Magazine.
- 31:51Speaker 4: Once she arrived in New York City, she just somehow
- 31:55Speaker 4: managed to be in all the sort of right places.
- 31:58Speaker 4: And she was this German heiress, according to her, with
- 32:02Speaker 4: a father that you would think.
- 32:05Speaker 1: With me, Wait a minute, I thought she was supposed
- 32:07Speaker 1: to be a Russian heiress.
- 32:08Speaker 4: Well, no, she was from Russia, but she told people
- 32:13Speaker 4: she was a German heiress. What's really funny, though, is
- 32:16Speaker 4: that her German, according to a lot of people, was terrible.
- 32:20Speaker 13: M h.
- 32:21Speaker 1: I want you to take a listen to what the
- 32:23Speaker 1: defense claims in closing arguments.
- 32:25Speaker 9: She had to fake it until she could make it.
- 32:27Speaker 9: Those words from the defendant's own attorney, who claimed she
- 32:30Speaker 9: never intended to commit a crime, But prosecutors call her
- 32:33Speaker 9: a fraud and a liar who would do almost anything
- 32:36Speaker 9: to prolong her life of luxury. This morning, the fate
- 32:41Speaker 9: of an alleged scam artist is now in the hands
- 32:43Speaker 9: of a jury, both sides wrapping up arguments for a
- 32:48Speaker 9: case that's drawn international outrage. The style savvy defendant even
- 32:52Speaker 9: turning heads in court wearing an animal print dress. She
- 32:56Speaker 9: called herself Anna Delvi, a fashionable globetrotter. Executors say, was
- 33:00Speaker 9: pretending to be a high flying German heiress living a
- 33:04Speaker 9: fairytale life of glitz and glam among Manhattan's elite.
- 33:11Speaker 1: That is an order for law and that.
- 33:17Speaker 8: Beyond.
- 33:19Speaker 1: Prosecutors say.
- 33:19Speaker 9: The twenty eight year old, whose real name is Annasorrikan,
- 33:23Speaker 9: stole two hundred and seventy five thousand dollars from banks, hotels,
- 33:27Speaker 9: and friends, all part of an elaborate scheme to keep
- 33:30Speaker 9: up her illusion of grandeur. Prosecutors also alleged Sorrikan tried
- 33:34Speaker 9: securing a twenty two million dollar loan to operate a
- 33:37Speaker 9: private club, claims. Her lawyer denies.
- 33:40Speaker 1: I do not.
- 33:41Speaker 12: Believe she had the intent to ever commit a crime.
- 33:44Speaker 12: Whether she oweys people money, that's a fact of life.
- 33:46Speaker 12: That's that's the reality of doing business in New York.
- 33:49Speaker 9: Now, facing charges of grand larceny and theft, she could
- 33:52Speaker 9: spend up to fifteen years in prison if convicted. An
- 33:55Speaker 9: official say, even if acquitted, she will be deported to Germany.
- 34:00Speaker 9: Sorkin's attorney says she got in over her head but
- 34:02Speaker 9: was just buying time until she could pay everyone back.
- 34:05Speaker 1: You're hearing our buddy wit Johnson at GMA at ABC
- 34:09Speaker 1: pay everybody back. I saw no signs of paying everybody
- 34:12Speaker 1: back and calling this doing business. That's certainly putting perfume
- 34:17Speaker 1: on the pig. Now you know there's a problem. Wendy Patrick,
- 34:21Speaker 1: California prosecutor and author of Red Flags. When the defense
- 34:24Speaker 1: to theft and fraud is fake it till you make it, okay,
- 34:30Speaker 1: I would not say that that's a valid defense and
- 34:33Speaker 1: a fraud case, you're admitting you're faking it.
- 34:37Speaker 8: It's probably not a good theme for the defense one.
- 34:39Speaker 8: I'm sure they're rethinking.
- 34:41Speaker 1: Right about now. You don't want to.
- 34:43Speaker 8: That's kind of playing right into the prosecutor's case. Now
- 34:46Speaker 8: what they probably were trying to do, Interestingly, and trial
- 34:49Speaker 8: and Nancy, you and I have both seen this is
- 34:51Speaker 8: really kind of painting this vulnerability picture of the defendant
- 34:54Speaker 8: to try to make somebody feel sorry for her, that
- 34:56Speaker 8: she was caught up in this false lifestyle, felt she
- 34:59Speaker 8: had to pretend she was somebody she wasn't.
- 35:01Speaker 1: Who can't relate to that.
- 35:03Speaker 8: There's a little bit of Anna and all of.
- 35:04Speaker 1: Us, you know, some of the themes we've well wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
- 35:07Speaker 1: I want to isolate what you just said. The defense
- 35:10Speaker 1: argued at trial as if Anna Sorokan aka Anna Delphy
- 35:16Speaker 1: was some type of a renegade and a rebel, someone
- 35:21Speaker 1: who was, you know, making her own path in the
- 35:24Speaker 1: world creatively. B As, don't tell me there's a little
- 35:28Speaker 1: bit of Anna Sorokan in me, because that was their defense.
- 35:31Speaker 1: There's a little bit of Anna and all of us.
- 35:33Speaker 1: Oh uh uh uh no, because she is a fraud,
- 35:38Speaker 1: a thief, and she ripped people off and they're never
- 35:41Speaker 1: going to get repaid. Wendy, right, that's what I'm saying that.
- 35:44Speaker 8: Well, that's baby why she was convicted, because these defenses
- 35:48Speaker 8: are just not realistic to jurors, to hardworking jurors, and
- 35:52Speaker 8: just cannot relate to the fact that we are anything
- 35:55Speaker 8: like this picture of Anna. Nonetheless, we have seen this
- 35:59Speaker 8: defense I'm in again and thankfully it is not successful.
- 36:02Speaker 1: Take a listen to this.
- 36:04Speaker 9: The courtroom drama played out late into the evening. At
- 36:07Speaker 9: one point the jury appeared deadlocked, the defense asking for
- 36:10Speaker 9: a mistrial, but then the verdict jurors agreeing with the
- 36:13Speaker 9: prosecution that Anasauricin built her fairytale life on a foundation
- 36:18Speaker 9: of theft and lives overnight, a New York City jury
- 36:22Speaker 9: finding socialite Anasauricin, the so called Soho Grifter, guilty on
- 36:27Speaker 9: eight counts, including grand larceny, attempted grand larceny, and theft
- 36:31Speaker 9: of services. Prosecutors arguing the twenty eight year old stole
- 36:35Speaker 9: a quarter of a million dollars from banks, hotels, and
- 36:38Speaker 9: friends to fund a lavish lifestyle.
- 36:41Speaker 12: The jurors obviously believed our point of view and followed
- 36:44Speaker 12: our logic and acquitted her for the top charges. I'm
- 36:47Speaker 12: sad and that she was convicted of some of the
- 36:48Speaker 12: other charges.
- 36:49Speaker 9: Prosecutors say the Russian born Sorkin, who called herself Anna Delvi,
- 36:54Speaker 9: was pretending to be a high flying German heiress living
- 36:57Speaker 9: a life of glamour among Manhattan's elite. Authority to say
- 37:01Speaker 9: she even forged financial documents hoping to get a twenty
- 37:04Speaker 9: two million dollar loan to open a private club in
- 37:07Speaker 9: the Big Apple. While she was turned down, she did
- 37:10Speaker 9: convince one bank to loan her one hundred thousand dollars,
- 37:13Speaker 9: which she never paid back, or lawyer saying she meant
- 37:16Speaker 9: to but had gotten in over her head and was
- 37:19Speaker 9: just buying time.
- 37:20Speaker 1: To bunnies abandoned in a public park trace back to
- 37:25Speaker 1: Anna Delvey. Surprise, surprise, surprise, She swears she had nothing
- 37:30Speaker 1: to do with it. Yet again another scandal. I would
- 37:34Speaker 1: put money on it if I were a betting person,
- 37:36Speaker 1: which I am not. That we have not heard the
- 37:38Speaker 1: last from Anna Delvy aka con artist Anna Sorkin. Nancy
- 37:44Speaker 1: Gray is signing off for now.
- 37:47Speaker 5: Good night friend,